Thread 723170750

Musou Warriors thread

Whats your favorite Musou series?
Whats your favorite Character(s)?
Will Koei F up DW3 remaster(remake) by turning it into soulless 1vs1000 as oppose to peon being a menace?

I'm currently playing SW2 XL upscaled on widescreen emu and God did this game age well. Thinking of giving the Orichi serie a try after I'm done with it. I wish I had a second player to play with

>>723170750 (OP)
>Whats your favorite Musou series?
You posted it
>Whats your favorite Character(s)?
I liked Nagamasa
Also I wonder why they dropped the idea of Tadakatsu being the Lu Bu of SW (as in, having super armor and able to kill you in two shots), he's like that in SW2 but in SW4 he's not

>>723171035
Good question. I forgot if they gave Keiji Maeda the Lu Bu treatment in SW1. But Honda is definitely the Lu Bu of SW2. My only complain with SW2 XL is how you can unlock special skills for an exorbitant price only to learn that they are PER CHARACTER only. But using the special skill to be able to use special attack anywhere mid combo bring this game to another level of satisfaction gameplay wise.

Favorite char is Mitsuhide Akechi for me

The most overhyped thing about the Boomer games is the SW1 castle stages. They're the opposite of fun.

>>723171629
The ninja tower thing? Its super fun. Its the only game that also has lot of environmental traps.that the later game miss. I also miss the grittier dark vibe of the first samurai warriors. Too bad there was no right analog camera on this one

>>723170750 (OP)
Is Samura Warrios 2 Empires any good? Feels like its missing a lot of cool elements regarding progression and grinding of regular SW2

>>723173889
Its well liked. You are encourage to make your custom warrior and choose different historical campaigns to conquer Japan. But since there's so many scenarios its hard to stick and level with a premade character. I personally found the battles to suck because you have to destroy a million of sub captains to advance territory. I found SW2 XL to be better overall and the Mercenary mode actually more fun than empire. The prep/tactic phase of Empire feels a bit tacked on

>>723173889
i like how tough it can be but it does kinda have an issue of a lack of unique officers for an empires setting due to being released before 2XL for some reason, and for better or worse, there is never a giga power to take down in a run compared to it's counterpart of the same era, DW5E, where Cao Cao or Liu Bei will always become a major threat if not taken out early.

I think Dynasty Warriors Origins might actually be pretty up there for me, they did succeed at their goal of bringing back a lot of the difficulty and friction that was present in the earlier games
>favorite character
Zhou Tai goes in all fields, the ancient Chinese samurai himself
It's really funny how Zhou Tai got the same treatment as basically any other katana wielder or iaijutsu character in Japanese fiction after DMC3 Special Edition released and Vergil served as inspiration, and DW7 came out to refresh a bunch of characters' movesets from where they'd basically stayed static since DW3 unless they were a newcomer

>>723174984
Never tried Orichi, which one should I get if I prefer SW roster? I heard good thing about WO3 DE

>>723170750 (OP)
I love DW3 but the remaster video had me concern. I sincerely hope they keep the AI aggressive not bloat difficulty with stats modification

I played 4 a lot as a kid. What is the best one currently on Steam?

>>723175868
Warriors Orochi's gimmick is largely the team-swap gimmick combined with Dynasty Warriors characters and Samurai Warriors characters both behaving totally as they do in their own games (often with no alterations), can't really go wrong

Recommend WO3 DE for sure, solid game and interesting for having Dead or Alive/Ninja Gaiden characters (Ryu is a good adaptation of himself in particular, doesn't play like any other katana or ninja character). Played WO4, it's built on Dynasty Warriors 8 and it sure feels like it, also turns into magic spam. Funny for introducing Greek deities to the supernatural folderol going on and Zeus started another war and summoned Chinese and Japanese heroes because he was bored

>>723176557
DW or SW? I also heard good thing about the One Piece musou game also on steam

>>723174984
I liked how in 8XL with Zhou Tai you didn't even need a horse because his aerial attack can get you to the other side of the map faster than Red Hare

I only played DW so.

Best game
4=7>8=5>origins>3=6>9

Zhang Liao
Deng Ai
Lu Meng
Zhou Tai
Cao Pi

Yuanji
Wang Yi
Zhenji
Xing Cai
Chunuhua

Male Roar
Cyclonized Typhoon
Capricious Winds
Strength Weakness
Inherited Fang

>>723176557
Dynasty Warriors 8 XLCE and Dynasty Warriors Origins are the most solid, Warriors Orochi 3 and 4 are also good

If you want any of DW8XLCE's DLC, just pirate it, almost all of it is tiny shit that costs way too much. Alternatively buy it on Nintendo Switch (or pirate it for there and play it in an emulator lol) since it's technically "Definitive Edition" and contains all that.

>>723176819
Sry DW4. I will play any in the genre though. Just want to scratch that itch.

>>723176557
I played to many fuckin musou games throughout my life, they're all just an amalgation of y,y,y,x over and over and I love'm for that.
Just avoid the fire emblem games, they have a shitmechanic.

>>723176821
That carries over to Warriors Orochi 4 since all DW stuff is lifted from 8XL, works even better there because WO in general lets you get way sillier with stat-ups and speed-ups than main games. Hilarious how fucking Sonic fast you could get with Zhou Tai air attacks

>>723170750 (OP)
SW2 is a good game but its atmosphere and voice acting are far inferior to SW1's.

>>723176857
SW2 without a doubt but play the normal and XL before Empire. You can do disk swapping on PSCX2 to get full content

>>723177080
>>723176919
>>723176854

Got some of them on my wishlist now. Cheers

>Will Koei F up DW3 remaster(remake) by turning it into soulless 1vs1000 as oppose to peon being a menace?
They already confirmed it. I can't find it now, but they said so in a recent interview they did

>>723177059
100% agree. The first's tone is rather unique compare to any other warrior games. It feels dark with a sens of urgency and heavier tragedy. SW2 added a lot of colors to its palette while refining the gameplay by a lot so it still take the top spot for me. I'm not interested by the modern warrior games where everything is anime colorful with over the top fighting style. I prefered when you see small units of 5 stacked soldiers compare to just a blob of peons swarming all your screen. The missions are super objective focus and I don't get why they scrapped the renforcement gate captains that gave a real strategy flow to the fields.

>>723177437
Though it's against the spirit of DW3 if it's basically Dynasty Warriors Origins with a DW3 level character selection then I'm more than fine with that

>>723177701
we already see the movesets and musou's are the same thing from DW3 tho, even with more enemies on screen there's no way it can be the exact same experience as 7/8 because those movesets were not designed to be as destructive.

>>723177973
In general it sounds like Koei-Tecmo's DW team wants to retvrn to the early PS2 days in scope, difficulty, player satisfaction and general theming, I think a DW3 remake so they can re-figure out what works from that is a great idea presonally

>>723177297
After playing DW8XL you might want to play DW8 Empires too just to satisfy that intense urge to marry Lingqi you'll inevitably get

>>723179152
love her moveset too, so broken

>>723177437
i kind of just wanted dw3 with better graphics and a horse summon button

>>723179520
yeah, but that's not how modern gaming works
to be fair it's easy to play 3 with cool mods that don't change the gameplay experience

>>723179632
so instead we get 8 with 3 stages outfits and movesets

>>723178568
>player satisfaction
If they cared about that Origins would have been an actual reboot with the characters people cared about not the shitty donut steel OC and the fucking god awful plot that went with it.
I'm so fucking angry with what they did with Origins, even if the gameplay was great overall.
Also, DW3 remaster is a lazy cashgrab like almost every remaster ever made, and if the MC from Origins is a playable character for some stupid fucking reason (as teased at the end of the trailer) I will not be touching this version of the game.

>>723179759
Yep. Great, huh?

>>723179789
>If they cared about that Origins would have been
>I'm so fucking angry with what they did with Origins, even if the gameplay was great overall.
Well yeah it was pretty blatantly a "baby steps" title so they didn't end up with DW6 2 that everybody would hate.

>>723175868
WO3. 4 is just a more unbalanced version of 3 with some magic gimmick. Though since you prefer the SW character you'd probably like WO4 as well since the SW side of the roster is more fleshed out and rush attack is OP when you get into endgame.

>>723179789
Origins was a cocktease demo. Only 1 weapon has proper charge movelist.

i'm the one guy who liked the DW:Gundam series. i felt like it was a good introduction into the shows and DWG2 had really good cross character interactions. its a shame it took until Reborn for them to finally iron out the gameplay.

You now remember when Koei did a Fist of the North Star musou on PS3

>>723180873
it sucked ASS

>>723180439
DWG2 plays better than Reborn.
Reborn is bloated with new suits with shit movesets and it suffers from slowdowns that ruin the pace, both due to shit performance and due to charge musous.

>>723180873
2 of them

>Why is PW4 still getting overpriced character packs with nothing to use them on?
>Why is DW Gundam stuck on PS3?
>Why has HW AoC not gotten a 60fps patch?
>Why does HW AoI even exist?
>What were they thinking with SW5?
>What the FUCK were they thinking with DW Origins?

>>723181369
>>>What the FUCK were they thinking with DW Origins?
it worked, whatever it was, it sold well

>>723180873
Never played that one, but the Berserk version was grindy quality.

>>723170750 (OP)
>Whats your favorite Musou series?
DW5 > DW5 Empires > Warriors Orochi 1 > Warriors Orochi 2 = DW5 Xtreme Legends > Samurai Warriors 2

Played SW1 on xbox eons ago and vaguely remember it. Not too fond of SW series because it felt weird compared to DW, but they were "okay" in WO.
Played DW6 on PS2. It took about 5 minutes before we ejected the CD and never touched the game or any newer entries ever again.
Xtreme Legends 5 is low because it feels like an expansion pack to the game rather than a seperate title. The XL missions are VERY fun, but the custom character campaign is unfortunately very painful to play.
>Whats your favorite Character(s)?
Mr. Justice

for me it's Dynasty Tactics
for 99% of characters it has their best design out of the entire series

>>723182286
You should give SW2 a try. Its by far my favorite of them all. It has way more gameplay variety than any DW mainline games too with the Normal, Charge and Special characters. They also nuked the bow with R1 to give 2 special moves to everyone which further enhance what I said. Thats from someone who started at DW3 all the way to 8.

Capcom should do a new Sengoku Basara too

>>723182847
Your thoughts on Kessen and Total War three kingdoms?

>>723182286
Nvm I missed SW2 at the end of your list. Still worth a new visit on emu with graphic enhancement if you ask me. Cheers

>>723183019
Kessen 3 is very fun
I was hoping adopting Kessen features was the direction DW Empires titles were heading in
Three Kingdoms became my second favorite TW and it's a crying shame CA threw a tantrum and abandoned it at the drop of a hat because they didn't get a good reception for a DLC absolutely nobody asked for

>>723181369
>Why is PW4 still getting overpriced character packs with nothing to use them on?
Bandai is retarded
>Why is DW Gundam stuck on PS3?
Bandai is retarded
>Why has HW AoC not gotten a 60fps patch?
Nintendo doesn't care about old games
>Why does HW AoI even exist?
A misunderstanding of where Age of Calamity's sales came from.
>What were they thinking with SW5?
Can't even fathom an answer for this. What a shit show that game was.
>What the FUCK were they thinking with DW Origins?
Fujo's have a lot of disposable income.

>>723170750 (OP)
Gundam Musou 1 was full of first-entry jank but had way more charm with the inter-character interactions (like Puru copying how Domon summons his Gundam)
2 improved on the gameplay but the writing got a bit weaker as a result.
3 has the best gameplay of the trilogy but the writing sucks ass. Characters got lumped into vaguely idealogically similar teams and barely actually interact directly - talking "at" eachother, but never really "to" eachother.

Reborn doesn't exist. The combat became ultra-weightless mashy (even by musou standards) garbage and the writing is basically deviantart fanfiction tier madlibs.

Samurai Warriors 5 had the best movesets in the series and Im tired of pretending that exchangable weapons are always bad. Its nice to be able to use different movesets without switching to a character I dont give a shit about. I think the best compromise is turning custom characters into a proper series staple you can use in Musou mode already without skipping out on it every other mainline title.

>>723170750 (OP)
I love genji on ps2

>>723170750 (OP)
Favorite series
Orochi, but out of the lot Orochi 3 Ultimate is my favorite musou game. 4 was a bit of a let down.

>>723170750 (OP)
What's the difference between samurai warriors and dynasty warriors?

>>723188104
Genji isn't Musou, it's character action like DMC or ninja Gaiden

>>723190064
samurai is in japan
dynasty is in china

>>723180380
I liked the sword being the only classical behavior weapon. Makes the other weapons feel a lot more varied

>>723170750 (OP)
>Whats your favorite Musou series?
Good ol Dynasty Warriors, but Samurai is fine too.
>Whats your favorite Character(s)?
DW: Xiaoqiao
SW: Nene, honorable mention to Kunoichi tho
>Will Koei F up DW3 remaster(remake) by turning it into soulless 1vs1000 as oppose to peon being a menace?
Yes

Playing WO2 right now, just clearing story on Hard.
First stages are really rough with lv1 chars here but eventually you get good weps and enough EXP to steamroll anything.
Also, ever tried Gracia's second R1 and pushing the enemy into a wall? If you didn't, boot up the game and enjoy .

>>723177437
That's so dumb. It's not really DW3 if you're killing 100 enemies in one swing.

>>723191401
>Also, ever tried Gracia's second R1 and pushing the enemy into a wall? If you didn't, boot up the game and enjoy
Ill make sure to check that out

>>723170750 (OP)
I want to believe, but KT's just gotten way too lazy about stage design. As much as I love Orochi, it was bad for them as a developer.

Tried out 3, 4, and 5 side by side. Seems like each one is just worse than the previous one.

sengoku basara is fun, too.

>>723170750 (OP)
Sengoku Basara 2 Heroes
Katakura Kojuro
Played this game for more than 1000hs with a friend, i was in highschool and had a shitload of free time. Miss those days

Is PW4 any good? Yes i watch the series.

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