Thread 723236478

>be lifelong console player
>want to switch to PC
>at least 2,000 dollars upfront for a decent setup
how do you guys do this?

>>723236478 (OP)
by stop making the same fucking threads on /v/ and start making them on /g/

build your own instead of using a prebuilt?

the beauty of pc building is you are in charge of the prices. you dont have to buy from retailer. go on facebook market, ebay, aliexpress, amazon, newegg, forums, reddit, etc. people are selling hardware everywhere and sometimes cheap as fuck because "I want to get rid of it ASAP".

>>723236478 (OP)
its called having a job.
ask mommy for a payrise

>>723236478 (OP)
I spent my first paycheck on my PC

>>723236478 (OP)
>Decades of PC games
>Decades of console games through emulators
>Being able to mod games to breath new life into them
>All that plus you can play new shit for the next 8-10 years easily

It's worth it if you look beyond Steam for your videogames.

>>723236478 (OP)
you're a stupid lying bitch. a rog ally or steam deck is $300 or under. easiest way to get into pc gaming. dell optiplexs are given out at goodwills for free.

>>723236478 (OP)
by not being a poor loser who still lives with his parents

>want to switch to PC
To play the same multiplats as console? To emulate old console games your phone already has access to? Or is it to goon on steam with the /v/ friend thread troons?

do people actually unironically buy starforge PCs?

>>723236478 (OP)
>boughting prebuilt
Bait thread.

>>723236478 (OP)
you can get decent prebuilt for 700€, raytracing is meme

>>723236826
i want to play might and magic

>>723236804
/THREAD

>>723236478 (OP)
Next gen consoles are going to cost $1k+ .

>>723236478 (OP)
If you're an adult and $2000 isn't something you can comfortably spend at any moments notice, then you need to reevaluate your budget and your life.

>>723236478 (OP)
Not being poor, primarily.
Is that an actual problem for people?

>>723236478 (OP)
By not being poor? Also PCs tend to have a longer shelf life than consoles. I built my most recent rig three years ago and hardware hasn't improved at all to warrant upgrading anything for another five years probably, at least. Meanwhile, the PC I used prior to that still works quite well, if being a bit dated for new titles. But, it still plays older games just fine so I have it plugged into my TV for couch gaymen.

>>723236478 (OP)
you're out of luck this is the worst time to build a pc, I've been waiting for years to upgrade but current hardware is just shit and too overpriced for what it is
just buy a decent gpu for cheap on the marketplace or something, and run with that
seeing how games and tech are progressing I'm sure you can still hold for 5-8 years with a 30x0 series or something

>>723236478 (OP)
If you're broke you can buy an old office PC for next to nothing or FREE, throw an old GPU in it, and have access to more games than a console would.

>>723236478 (OP)
by not being poor
also, most games are free, so its really a one-time investment

>>723236478 (OP)
Second hand parts and build it yourself.
I got my 3090 for 900€ about 3 years ago.

>>723236478 (OP)
probably about half that if you buy yourself and you dont need top of the line hardware i always buy high end gpu from last year at like half price

>>723236478 (OP)
Consoles have Payed online.
PS+ alone will cost you 560 $ over 7 years.

Personally you can get a decent PC for much cheaper than 2000$ if you buy smart.
A CPU/Ram/Mobo Combo that will outperform even the PS6 will cost you like a 1000$ and then you can get a 4070 super for 500$.
And in 7 years when the Ps6 comes out you can just get a new GPU for 500$ and probably be fine for the next 6 years.

>>723236478 (OP)
>decent setup
>4k

First of all, you're retarded. Most of those PCs will struggle with many games in 4k because 4k is a fucking stupid meme and nobody actually plays in it.

Two, don't buy prebuilts. You can save hundreds. If you MUST have one built for you, at least pick the parts yourself, many retailers let you build your own PC and they assemble it. Those overpriced pieces of shit in your pic will have stupid shit on them that you don't need like 4tb drives or 1200w psus, ricer fans, etc.

And three, a good (not top of the line) high end PC nowadays will run you about 1000~ bucks retail. If you build it yourself and deal-hunt, could probably get one made for somewhere around 500-800-ish. Which is the same ballpark of consoles, consoles that have 0.01% of the games that PC has access to, and that become useless in 2 years maximum.

I upgrade my PC every 5 years. And that's upgrades, not buying a new one. You do the maths.
There is no reason to own a console these days unless you're a literal child, and more and more developers are having PC ports/versions on release and this will only increase.

>>723236478 (OP)
Going for 4k is retarded.

>>723236826
>To play the same multiplats as console?
PC has literally dozens of thousands of exclusives.
>To emulate old console games your phone already has access to?
Good luck emulating even PS1 games on your phone, let alone anything above it. Let alone actually having them be enjoyable with touch controls and a small screen.
>Or is it to goon on steam with the /v/ friend thread troons?
You're projecting.

My first PC was a prebuilt office PC that I shoved a cheap graphics card into. That was 20 years ago...

>>723236826
You can only play games on consoles that the Manufacturer decided you are allowed to play.
PC gets to play almost everything.
I can play the latest games or i can play 15+ year old titles and download texture/lighting mods for free that make the game looks better than any remaster.
I am literally playing Chrono Trigger Guild Wars 2 FFXVI Forza 5 and Shape of Dreams right now.
And planing on Playing Half-life Alyx and Enderal next.
All while playing some SFVI and Granblue Versus on the side or occasionally jerking it to VR porn games.

Can your PS5 do the same?

>>723238168
I get that PCs offer more value since they are multifunctional, but if you bought a PS5 in 2020 for $499 and decided to upgrade (which isn’t fully necessary btw) to a PS5 Pro for $700 or $750 whatever it is in your area you can still sell/trade your ps5 for $300+. $500 for 5+ years and an additional $350 if you really wanted to add some extra features. You’re still out ahead either way on price unless you use used pc parts (and if we are doing that a used PS5 is less at around $300).

>>723236813
But living with your parents makes you rich.

>>723238391
>PC has literally dozens of thousands of exclusives.
Essentially just the older games though, and maybe a couple of modern indies. In that case, OP doesn't need to pay much for the computer parts.
I personally consider PC gaming to be a meme nowadays since it actually suffers from a lack of exclusives that make the investment in higher-tier components to be worth it. A console like the Switch has been a better choice during this decade for me.
>Good luck emulating even PS1 games on your phone, let alone anything above it. Let alone actually having them be enjoyable with touch controls and a small screen.
Duckstation runs fine on Android, and PPSSPP suffered compatibility issues until early 2023. Even then, a mid-tier phone from 2020 can emulate these games fine.
In case you complain about the small screen and touch controls, a Bluetooth controller and HDMI/USB cable does the trick.

>>723236764
t-t-t-thiiiiiiis!^^^ still in love with my babe

>>723236648
Used prices don't mean pc gaming is affordable. I could go to the flea market and buy stolen Gucci handbags for pennies on the dollar doesn't mean they're not expensive

>>723236478 (OP)
Saving money?, having a job?, doing something other than sitting all day?.

>>723239157
Aren't there loads of cases where the regular PS5 just outright struggles to get 30 FPS on certain games?
That's not an 'optional upgrade', that's literally the only thing the machine is designed to do, give you a stable, plug-and-play experience, and it can't do that, because console games have zero standards and will just instead continue to consume and spend money.

>lifelong PC player
>want to switch to PS5
>at least 500 upfront
>+80 per year for PS+
>+80 per game (PC games are free)
>+70 per controller (can't even use DS4 for PS5 games)
>headphones locked to Sony products
>external HDD locked to Sony products
>paid mods
>forced updates
>nonexistent moderation and customer support

>>723236478 (OP)
>I want to pay more so my games stutter
??

>>723240369
>paid mods
Not if you know where to look. Only a turbojew laces their stuff after pm'ing you the paid fix.

>>723239510
>picks the fucking switch of all things as an example, a dogshit console that is so awful that even a phone can emulate its games for free
you're the biggest fucking faggot, exclusives aren't the only thing that counts as a video game and PC is by far the best way to play them

>>723238168
You’re a fucking retard. I’ve been building pc’s since before you were born. To make the case the building a pc is the cheaper option is pants on head retarded. PC is and will always be the premium option and that’s without accounting for all the software hiccups. I love PC gaming but claiming it’s cheaper is just a flat out lie you disingenuous piece of shit

>>723240612
If the "dogshit console" can have access to a gigantic amount of games that most often play virtually the same as on PC, then yes it was overall a better investment in my opinion.
And yes, exclusives aren't the sole things that count as videogames but my point was ultimately more how OP doesn't need to spend a shitload on high-tier computer parts since there aren't anything that warrant those.

>>723236478 (OP)
You can definitely build a decent machine (1440p60) for $1000 (no monitors or peripherals included). Not that much more from a ps5 pro.

>>723239978
You sound poor as shit.

>>723241017
>If the "dogshit console" can have access to a gigantic amount of games that most often play virtually the same as on PC
Except they don't, and on PC they are literally free and perform better at a higher resolution and have mods. If the paid option is quite literally the same or worse than the free one, how is that a better investment? Even Nintendo knows this which is why instead of making better products they spend the bare minimum on their hardware and games and just aggressively sue instead. Second part is just your opinion, but I personally like having much higher fidelity and frame rates and the endless freedom and backwards compatibility that come with owning a PC.

>>723240992
Okay.
Enjoy paying for your PS5, plus hundreds in extra services and games, and then having to upgrade it in the next year because it can no longer run new games above 10 fps.

It's precisely because you're a PC gamer that you have no idea how hard consoletards are getting scammed.
They're essentially doing the same song and dance we are of having to upgrade the GPU, except they have to do it every year because unlike us, they have no access to video settings or mods, or overclocking, or a million other things.

>>723241017
What fucking Switch games play the same as on PC? Even their own fucking 1st party games run worse on the native hardware vs being emulated fucking lol

Do you really think PCs are out there running shit at 360p 20 fps?

>>723241391
Bragging about piracy isn't an actual argument though.
Sounds like to me you're very upset that I dare to have fun with games on a system that isn't on PC (and still get the same experience), while recommending games for IRL buddies who are primarily PC users.

>>723240060
I don’t think that’s true. Maybe struggle to hit 60fps, but 30? Even unoptimized games like monster hunter wilds runs well over that in balanced and performance mode. Sure, if you want fidelity mode it’s going to prob have to get a Pro. I was very happy with MHW personages on my PS5 Pro. How does that game run on five year old pc hardware? I’m not saying pc sucks i’m just pointing out it’s not as cost effective for gaming.

>>723236478 (OP)
why do want to switch to PC?

>>723236478 (OP)
>wtf premium gaming costs more than economy gaming???

>>723241765
i don't give a fuck what you do but calling that piece of shit tablet a better investment than a pc and claiming that the switch plays games "virtually the same as PC" is just retarded and also a lie

Cant you basically make a $500 PC better than a PS5 these days? You easily can with $1000.

>>723241017
>play virtually the same as on PC
Did you ever actually played non switch versions of those games?
Even if by some miracle you dont mind ps3 era graphics its still games running at barely 30 fps.
And its only a select few titles the developers managed to downgrade enough so they run on the thing.
I had to Mod my switch so i could remove the under-clock Nintendo forces on the console to preserve battery life just so i could play Astral Chain and XenoBalde 2 at stable 30 fps docked as the under-clock also affect's the console in docked mode and restoring the orignal tegra clock speeds has minimal impact on temperatures like 2-5 C at best while still way below max safe temps.

Do you really want to pay 2000 bucks just to play new aaa games for 80 bucks that stutter like fuck. Every good game runs on a 700 dollar system

>play videogames your entire fucking life
>can't afford to get ripped off for $2k by a scam prebuilt
You should probably reorganize your entire life if you can't spend a minimum wage weeks worth of money on your primary hobby.

>>723236826
You lost Eric
PC won

>>723241391
>>723241765
Even if we ignore the turd worlder or man-child barging about piracy games on PC are still much much cheaper than on consoles.

I literally got all of these games on the recent steam sale and humble bundle for less than 200$.

>>723242343
Cant fit all of them.

>>723242007
I think you're simply not well knowledgeable in videogames to have a well informed opinion on the console itself or its game library
Again if the "piece of shit tablet" excels at playing videogames (that aren't modern western AAA - which aren't my thing) then it's time to realize that the differences in hardware horsepower between platforms aren't that wide, and no longer give completely different versions of games, like how things used to be one or two decades ago.

>>723242343
It isn't "barging" about piracy, it's making a point that Switch games play far better on PC and for free vs paying 350 dollars for the console, then 70+ for each game. Why would any non-retard pay for shit that is actually worse than something you get for free? I'm not running a charity for some multibillion dollar corporation, they should offer a better product. I pay for my PC games.

>>723236478 (OP)
I built mine for around $1000 using money that I earned from my job.

>>723236478 (OP)
>2,000 dollars upfront
Yeah. On console it's 700 upfront and like 2000 in upkeep costs due to having to pay for online and worse sales.

>>723242343
>games on PC are still much much cheaper than on consoles.
That isn't actually true unless a console port is fairly recent and thus have a lesser discount during sales
But you look like you're a steam sale junkie who buys a massive amount of games and probably don't touch them or barely, so in the end you've lost more money by comparison.

>>723236478 (OP)
How does /v/ do it?
>spend all day on /v/ seething at consoles
>pirate 20 year old games
>don't actually play them
>proclaim their 2500k is still going strong (they got it when it was 4 years old)
>cry on /v/ about console gamers
>literally post in every console game thread they can, agnostic of subject about PC gaming being better
>shit on controllers despite only owning a logitech f310 (they can't afford anything newer or better)
>stare at steam library
>game goes on sale for $2
>buys it and doesn't play it
This really ends up saving you a lot of money on modern PC gaming.

>>723242494
>>723242543
Irony is even Indie titles play better on PC than switch.

I got a Used 6 year old laptop for 250$ whit a built in 1050 and i7 and not only does it run all indie games perfectly it can actually even emulate some Switch games itself.
Iv bean playing the switch version of Star Ocean R on it.
On top of all the Indie games.

>>723242494
What the fuck are you talking about, if it's not a "western AAA" I can play anything that a Switch can at 8k and a gorillion FPS while the Switch looks like this >>723242060 and struggles to maintain 30 fps. So, yes, the difference in horsepower is massive, you just have low fucking standards.

>>723242727
>literally post in every console game thread they can
aren't you just doing that but posting in a pc thread to rant about consoles? for some schizo reason?

>>723242727
The idea that people on PC dont play games is the biggest Cope console plebs tell themself.

>>723243013
League of Legends literally doesn't count.

>>723242727
>Consolesfags bitch about gaming nonstop
>Just buy a PC and be happy
>WOW WHY ARE PCFAGS ALWAYS WHINING?
lol

>>723242494
Even if you dont care about AAA games switch still runs even AA and Indie games worse.

>>723243170
It's 2025 bro, nobody plays League anymore

>build pc
>buy chinkheld
>stream games to it from home or work
>come home and play games on tv
i got the best of switch and playstation without owning either

>>723243303
You lost me at streaming games. First of all u should be working, second doubt work Internet is good enough to stream in any good quality, coffee shops and the train certainly aren't. Just put the games right on the device. What is good streaming is when I stream games from my pc to the 75" lounge TV, very kino for some games and I don't have to hdmi cable it

>>723243170
I log in to LoL like once a year out of morbid curiosity for new champions and then uninstall it after 2 matches.
If everyone who has a PC is a PC gamer then yes most PC gamers dont play games.
But also by that logic More women play games and are gamers than men because of candy crush saga and farmvile.

Maybe rub 2 brain-cells together and you will figure out why almost every game is getting PC ports now even Sony exclusives of all thing.

>>723243290
>>723243220
I don't know who needs to tell you this, but League of Legends really isn't a good game.

>>723241582
Where do you get "every year" from? The consoles run on a cycle of roughly 5 years currently, and unless you need to buy every console you probably stick to the one you bought until the end of that cycle.

PC's the best investment, but I don't get the logic of how consolefags are upgrading annually.

>>723243546
I know, ans neither is FIFA but consolecasuals buy it annually

>>723243512
Some people have jobs they can get done in half the time they have to sit at work.
My job of working in a Surveillance security room is me just sitting in an office for 8 hours in case something goes wrong.
Even my boss knows i play games and does not care because he just wants me to not sleep on the job when i do night shifts as my job is to just react to alerts not stare at the surveillance screens all day or night. And so far 99% of all alerts of which there are like 0-2 a day are false alarms.
I also have access to a lan cable and can stream my 2000$ gaming pc to my old gaming laptop at work and the input lag is barely noticeable in anything but fighting games (Which ironically work on the same gaming laptop wo having to stream)

>>723243903
Always security jobs with u handhelders. Can't say I'm not jealous. My dream job is overnight security where I get to play with my deck

>>723243512
Believe it or not most people dont live in the US and dont have to commute to work for hours on a train or sit in coffee shops to pretend they are high class while also playing games in public like a man-child.

>>723244064
I finished Silk-song on my Laptop at work exclusively.

>>723236478 (OP)
I honestly hate these goddamned aquarium cases. They're fucking everywhere and they exist solely for streamers. Ugly as sin. No, I will not be sticking a giant fucking decal on my PC, are you serious?

>>723244394
Rainbow LEDs as well, pure cancer

Good, stay out.

>>723238391
>Good luck emulating even PS1 games on your phone, let alone anything above it.
I was emulating PS1 on my cheap ass entry level Samsung phone like a decade ago with little to no performance issues. I'd be highly surprised if decent new phones are not capable of gen 6 emulation at least.

>>723236478 (OP)
just stay on console
why am I supposed to babysit consoleretard how to purchase stuff

>>723244441
I am seconds away from buying a "vintage" full tower ATX beige box. I don't care how bad the airflow is.

>>723236478 (OP)
Just buy a Steam Deck

>>723245028
their next iteration based on a new APU will probably be genuinely good, actually. The old specs are getting a little dated at this point

>>723236478 (OP)

im going to own a pc for other things besides gaming and a decent one is going to be around 1,000usd anyway.
a game console these days is 500-700.
you can build the pc on your own during holiday sales and get the prices to match.
If you are playing at 1080p you can save a lot of money.
if you are playing on a TV from far away at 60 fps, you can save a lot of money

>>723245110
That'll be at least a year from now. They might release the controller or the new vr setup this christmas

>>723245227
yes probably but it'll be a serious generational uplift based on how well the halo performs. The miniaturization of graphics will probably get to the the point of efficiency where handheld gaming isn't a fucking 2 hour meme within the next couple years if the entire personal computing industry doesn't collapse