Thread 723448106

My old ass controller i've been using for a long time is finally dying, now i gotta get a new one

should i just get an Xbox Series controller? or is there a better third-party one i can get for that price? I've seen some 8bitdo ones that look neat, but what do yall recommend

I got 8BitDo Ultimate 1 and 2 since they work on PC and Switch/2.
They're pretty good. If you're into macros and paddles and shit this would probably be a good way to go.
The dpad on the 2 is a little mushy though, false diagonals like the Switch Pro if you're familiar.
Series X controller is good too. I'd honestly just tell you to go with personal preference or whatever is cheaper.

I've been rocking gulikit kingkong2 pro for the last 3 years and I have no reason to replace it, but if I were, I'd probably just get the latest kingkong max or whatever it's called.

>>723448106 (OP)
just bought the cheapest controller that dosnt suck, nova lite gameSIR. its a controller and im not a sweaty faggot so it works

I like the Series controller enough that in some cases I've found I regret having purchased a multiplat on PS5, because of how much worse the DualSense feels

>>723448281
shit ngl some back buttons/paddles do sound kinda tempting now that you mention it

>>723448106 (OP)
>should i just get an Xbox Series controller?
No. The face buttons have issues with double-inputs and lost inputs.

>>723448106 (OP)
Steam controller 2 will likely release within a couple months. Get something cheap to hold you over until then or just use mouse and keyboard.

I've been using a Razer Wolverine Ultimate for the last 3 years, and it's been solid. Reviews mention stick drift, but I've not experienced it myself. Got it for 150 back in the day, now it goes for around 70. Overall really solid, even if it is a bit small.

>>723449242
man i'm not a big fan of the leaks, i hate those trackpads taking up so much space lol

they should release a lite version that doesn't have em, i'd kill for a good ABXY controller with gyro for PC

I will try pic related when TT Pro is out. I'll also order the Pro 3.

PC controllers I've liked are Shanwan Q38, SN30 Pro, Tegeneria, ES Pro, and FANTECH Switch controller.

Skip the Q38 if you need to use the right stick with any dexterity.

>>723448106 (OP)
8bitdo something, either the ultimate 2 or the pro 3

The dock is a godsend and it's so convienent to use, you never know how good it is until you try it

>>723449437
I can dig it doesn't end up being too small in the hands.

>>723448106 (OP)
I have the 3 current generation controllers and overall it's the best one
better left stick position than the PS5's
dpad is very clicky but compared to the switch pro's awful dpad anything is better
analog triggers and it simply works out of the box

I have a ds4, dual sense, xbox series and a gamesaaaaaaaaaaar cyclone2, I like the cyclone 2 the most except for the dpad

I bought a cyclone 2 a few months ago and I think it's pretty solid

>>723450023
I actually like the dpad, when I was researching controlers I watched a lot of videos but a ton of reviewers are very superficial talking to what mostly amounts to vibes for the most part especially for the dpad

I play a lot of 2D games so this was pretty important to me and eventually I found a guy which had a little NES Contra test when he reviewed gamepads and he tested things out for accidental diagonals

I like my dpad inputs to be a bit more "distinct" instead of that vagueness some dpads have to "smooth" the transition out between one direction to the next, I suppose it's a matter of personal preference, but maybe someone reading this could get a better idea on how it lands and makes a better decision for it at least

>>723450440
what I didn't like is the feel of the dpad its like very mushy and I find really hard make constant diagonals but thats just personal preference, if I really want to play a 2d game I just use the dualsense

>>723448106 (OP)
Dualsense Edge with Hall Effect sticks.
>mfw I spent over $300 on both of these together.
>mfw can't tell if I'm retarded with money or frugal when I went through 2 Dualsenses with stick drift after warranty

>>723450745
yeah that's pretty fair, I tried my had at some Silksong speedrunning for fun, nothing competitive just to spice up my steel soul attempts, and there is some constant pogos especially early on for faster movement, so a ton of diagonals and yeah I did end up messing up some of them, same thing for some combat situations, maybe you need to diagonal right then quickly diagonal left and I found myself messing that up sometimes as well, I know there's a skill issue component to this as well but I can totally understand how the gamepad could affect things too, dualsense really does have a great dpad yeah, kind of a shame how there's always one compromise or another with gamepads

>>723448881
They used to be a luxury , nowdays to me they should just be standard

>>723449242
Based on what info? Theres been rumors for like 2 years now.

>>723451409
.I got my cyclone 2 for 15 USD so im pretty happy for how good it is at that price point so the trade off with the dpad was bearable

>>723448106 (OP)
Pac-Man Controller.

reminder that if the controller doesn't have a swappable battery then it's ewaste, that leaves us with the xbox series controller and 8bitdo pro 2
reminder that if the controller doesn't have a chatpad then it's shit for pc use, that leaves us with the xbox series controller
don't buy ewaste anons
>>723448106 (OP)
based, this anon gets it

GameSir?

I've bought a gamesir controller and it works well but... I haven't touched it in months

what the fuck do people play with their controllers??

>>723453667
do they sell controllers with swappable batteries?

>>723453704
controllers are a meme. for me i just use arcade stick for everything. only game i play on controller is god hand

>>723448106 (OP)
You'll be swarmed by chinks and poojeets shilling their gamesirs, but official Xbox controllers are built like tanks from my experience.
Both my 360 and SeX gamepad still work flawless.

>>723451409
>and there is some constant pogos especially early on for faster movement, so a ton of diagonals and yeah I did end up messing up some of them, same thing for some combat situations, maybe you need to diagonal right then quickly diagonal left and I found myself messing that up sometimes as well, I know there's a skill issue component to this as well but I can totally understand how the gamepad could affect things too
arcade stick, seimitsu lever

>>723453704
Anything that isn't hard required to use m/kb like an MMO or a MOBA I would prefer a controller
racing, fighting, platformers, action, etc are all subjectivity better on pad
the only thing you can kinda use either is FPS because of how retarded aim assist is these days

I have a gamesir and I don't think I would recommend it. Its well put together but the shape is just all wrong. Trying to wrap my huge manly hands around it is uncomfortable so I have to brace the bottom against my middle fingers while my last two fingers aren't even touching it. Its not very firm.

>>723453972
>racing,
wheel
>fighting, platformers, action, etc
stick

>platformers and action games on arcade stick
lmao larp

>>723448106 (OP)
Been gaming since I could remember and I will say that the Series controller is the best controller that I've ever held, it's just perfect.
With that said, mine shat the bed when the USB output stopped working, very much fixable which is something I intend to do.
Currently using the 8Bit controller (not sure which one) and one of the main reasons why I got it due to the fact that it's compatible with Switch/PC, and hall effect.

>>723448106 (OP)
do not buy xbox garbage.
if you want xbox shape get something like the flydigi vader 4.

>>723454084
Side scrollers in general are meant to be played on an arcade stick.

>>723454034
there's always one
yeah no shit there's always some specific device you can get, I use leverless myself to play rhythm games and fighting but the average person isn't gonna buy that when a pad will suffice you autist

>>723454146
does your flydigi vader 4 has a swappable battery, if not then it's shit

>>723454258
hey its that retard who is scared of screws.
probably the lamest shitposter in /v/ history.

>>723454084
I'm talking about crash and contra
you're talking about yooka laylee and asscreed

maybe ubislop like forspoken plays better on pad but why would you even play that in the first place
>>723454191
>the average person
they play fifa madden and cod only. this board isnt about them

>>723454153
is that why the absolute majority of platformers were made for d-pad consoles even back when arcades were still alive?

>>723454409
>crash on arcade stick
lmao

>>723448106 (OP)
>should i just get an Xbox Series controller?
seriously no reason to do this unless you like one of the limited edition designs
worst controller of the main name brand manufacturers while being the same price

>>723449437
>YES I WANT ANOTHER SNES CONTROLLER WITH DUAL ANALOG PLEASE, I NEED ONE WITH THESE BUTTON LABELS
Please stop eating the slop and just accept a novel controller.
>>723450842
You're retarded with money and could've just learnt to solder, which would have saved you money, given you a valuable skill and left you with a controller that doesn't drift.
>>723453654
No, fuck you.
If the console only accepts specific controllers, then its controllers are ewaste.
>>723453895
Yes, handheld controllers are a meme, since they're mostly value-optimized to be a cheap pack-in, except they're selling them for 80$.

>>723454491
the only reason consoles had a dpad at all was because of cost. every console since the nes had a premium first party arcade stick made for it. a dpad costs a penny, a good arcade lever costs $20. that shit adds up when you're talking about millions of controllers

>>723454258
only a retard would buy a product that harder to repair

>>723454508
>console
this thread is about pc gaming

>>723448106 (OP)
buy a used ds4 for $20

>>723455126
>shit dpad
>shit stick layout
>shit triggers
>micro usb
>non swappable battery
>bad build quality
no

>>723453654
you again fucker? learn to use a fucking screwdriver.

>>723455219
>hurr durr just use a screwdriver bro
or I can just swap the battery on my series controller

>>723455180
but it's $20

>>723455302
so are xbone controllers

>>723455180
buy a used mayflash arcade stick and swap the lever and buttons

>>723455067
And ewaste is mostly concerned with pack-ins like chargers, not things you specifically buy, like controllers.

>>723455348
then that sounds good too. actually i think you can get a 360 controller for like $10-15

>>723455372
but things you can specifically buy, like controllers can be ewaste

>>723455279
>hurr durr I refuse to learn basic useful skills
you are literally waste

>>723455484
have you taken about a laptop and phone before, cause I have.l?

>>723455429
Yes, which means that you shouldn't buy cheap-ass controllers, like dual analog handheld controllers without gyro and cheap, failure prone components.
The entire paradigm of current first party handheld controllers is still centered around their origin as cheap pack-ins, which means that they are all evolved from e-waste.

>>723455638
usecase for gyro and don't say shooters

>>723448106 (OP)
Analogs with hall effect or tunnel magnetoresistance are cheap and plentiful, only a SUCKER would buy "muh official first-party" Snoy or Xblah controller that has obsolete drift-prone tech and costs way more.

>>723453704
I just like to have one for 3D games in general.

>>723455770
you can mod in tmr sticks onto series controllers making them the best ones to buy

>>723455884
if you're gonna transition a controller you might as well build an arcade stick. controllers are meant to be cheap and disposable. buy a $10 chink knockoff, keep it in the drawer as a p2 or for certain niche games, and use the arcade stick as your daily driver

>>723455884
good goy
>80 USD for controller
>20 for the new sticks
>optional 20 if you are retarded and dont know how to solder
>45% obligatory tip

>>723456031
>sticks: replace once
>battery: replace multiple

>>723453704
FPS on the couch with gyro to mouse. Almost as good as kbm

>>723456123
>remove battery and use cable instead
>never replace battery

>>723456357
>can't play wireless

>>723456414
batteries are ewaste anon, remember?

>>723456507
no having a sealed in battery is ewaste

>>723455682
Any game with a lazy camera that doesn't automatically orient itself, especially if the game doesn't use tank controls.
Movement is often relative to camera controls, so better camera controls equate to better movement.
Claw grip is often used in games that aren't shooters, because the controller's ergonomics fundamentally aren't suited for them.

>>723456593
you know the right thumb stick exists right?

>>723448106 (OP)
No, my Xbox Series X Controller right bumper stopped working properly, it's a common issue, and the triggers are not responsive for shooters.

>>723456629
>Input that takes up 1/6th of your total ability to use inputs
>Use it to play a cameraman with a motor disability all the time so you can't use face buttons
The right analog stick is for character controls, not camera controls. I'm not going to waste my inputs on playing a second character that doesn't do anything.

>>723456562
it cant be sealed in. if you have enough perseverance you can change the battery on any device

Just werks?
>Xbox series X

Need gyro?
>Dualsense

Poor?
>8bitdo and 3rd party

Series x is by far the best (1st party) controller this gen. It just works and feels so damn nice to hold. They're still the only company who can make comfortable triggers unlike for example Sony who for 5 gens now still can't manage it. For 3rd party controllers look for something which has 1000hz polling via wireless and Hall effect/TMR tech in the sticks and triggers. Mechanical buttons exist if you really need them.

>>723456797
he is too retarded to comprehend the concept of DIY

>>723456820
Just werks, mediocre and stick drift?
>Xbox series X

Need gyro, unused gimmicks and drift?
>Dualsense

Poor (don't like to waste your money?
>8bitdo and 3rd party

>>723457716
and your too retarded to comprehend how products used to be

I've just been accustomed to using the Dual Sense but holy shit does it get stick drift if you even remotely use the sticks for a solid year. When through two controllers in three years.
I need stick drift immunity.

>>723455884
i don't know man
desoldering 6 pins at the same time actually kinda really sucks a lot

>>723458360
every product used to be easy to repair idiot,

>>723458629
and now they're not

Still waiting for the TT Max. Where the fuck is it

>>723458678
a lot of devices still are, like controllers!

>>723458842
Do they come with swappable batteries?

>>723458967
kek

>>723458967
if your idea of repairability is just to be able to swap batteries then you are beyond retarded

>>723459026
phones back then had swappable batteries
laptops back then had swappable batteries
so why can't controllers?

all of them are fine honestly as long as they're either wired or using their own wireless transceiver. Bluetooth tends to have latency but that might be addressed in newer iterations of the protocol. i got an xbox controller but i won't be bothered with using the wireless dongle so i just have it BT connected and i think there's a bit of discernable latency when playing fastpaced games, but it's not painful unless you're autistic.

>>723459143
I agree they should but it isnt like the end of the world neither, granted is not that easy but it is not hard at all

>>723459143
why can't present tense when past tense?
sounds like a tense issue

I'm using logitech f310 but the dpad sucks for platformers and sneed song, should I just get the xbox one

>>723459143
Just ignore those retards. Even the new leaked DualSense will have a removable battery.

question about 8bit do ultimate 2 wireless
how similar are the sticks to ultimate 1? I really dont like how they feel, they have this resistance to them thats annoying to me
compared to tegenaria lite that has very smooth sticks that i really like
g7 pro was very smooth too

How long are these lithium battery controllers safe for?

My Dualshock 3 is 15 years old at this point, is it a fire hazard to keep this thing around?

>>723461986
>dpad
arcade stick

>>723462126
wow removable battery and the same potentiometer sticks!
stop wasting oxygen anon

>>723448106 (OP)
The most basic, Xbox controlers from 8bitdo does everying an Xbox controller does and its cheaper, at least in my region.

And no internal batteries, which is perfect for me. One less thing to break.

>>723464087
>sticks: mod once
>battery: mod many

>>723464087
When did I say I'm going to buy it?

>>723464269
see >>723456031 >>723456357

>>723465306
jews want you to buy devices with sealed batteries so that you'll just get the latest product when the battery craps out

>>723453654
Not being able to aim is an infinitely bigger handicap than having to plug in your controller occasionally.

>>723455682
What do you count as a shooter? Because the majority of games have gameplay where you launch some sort of projectile in the direction you're aiming. Do those all count as shooters?

>>723451502
It seems they're getting ready to launch the Frame and it's likely the SC2 will release alongside/with it.

>>723449437
Have you ever used a Deck? Because it's genuinely comfy as hell. Easily the most comfortable handheld I've ever touched and up there among all controllers, and the SC2 is basically just a Deck without the screen. The thumbsticks are in the perfect position for your finger and the trackpads don't get in the way at all.

If you can afford it get a Dualsense, the HD rumble is legit a fucking awesome feature for games that use it properly, and gyro aim is awesome with Steam Input

>>723448106 (OP)
I genuinely hate to shill it.
But my game saar with hall of effect sticks has been doing well for the last few months.
Will only know in a year or so if it's truly going to last. But so far so good.

>>723467090
With the magic gear that changes the button names?

>>723466579
skill issue

>>723448106 (OP)
xboner elite
>40+ hour battery life
>just works™ going back to xp era games
>wireless dongle > bluetooth
>back paddles (cant live without these now)

>>723453704
mouse/kb isnt really ideal when playing on a tv
>>723453972
this is the right idea. mouse/kb/monitor for fps, mmo, rts, moba, crpg etc etc
controller/tv for third person games, racing, action/souls etc

>>723468149
>xboner elite
>no gyro
>no trackpad
>shitty sticks
Only boomers prefer a Xgoy controller, you old fuck.

>>723467090
Didn't these controllers have terrible latency?

>>723465387
Jesus you are a dense and stubborn retard. Just remove the battery and play wired you dumb bastard

>>723467614
The skill issue is needing a machine to aim for you because you're too afraid you'll get beaten if you have to actually aim for yourself.

>>723468149
>just works
Except when you need to aim which is like 70% of all games ever made.

i use these, wish there were more uses for the Dualsense's features like recently i found i could use the gyroscope while emulating BoTW and it was cool, but haven't found other uses for it, the trackpack, haptic feedback and triggers

>>723448106 (OP)
>should i just get an Xbox Series controller?
Yes.

>>723455884
this retard again
>just buy overpriced controllers and then spend even more money and time to get a modicum of quality that you get for half the price as chinkshit
listen man if you're having fun doing it as a hobby, fine, but it's seriously pointless

How's Linux support for PS5 wireless?

>>723448106 (OP)
Literally no reason not to get the series xbox controller. If you want a specific colour then you can use design lab but it will be +10 bucks or just look at amazon and look which official controllers are on sale to like 40 bucks for unpopular colours.

>>723472858
>Linux
>Support

>>723472858
there isn't any official support just like on windows, if you are asking about a DS4Windows equivalent i just use Steam, if the game isn't on steam you can add it as a steam game, there are probably other alternatives but i haven't bothered finding them when its that easy with steam

>>723472732
the end result is that one gets a better controller

>>723472859
>Literally no reason not to get the series xbox controller
I dunno. Being able to aim is a pretty good reason.

>>723471769
>bastard
SAAAR

>>723473430
skill issue, get gud

>>723473562
>>723472224

>>723473418
no you don't, you get a worse controller that was slightly less worse than it was before for more money and time wasted

>>723472859
>Literally no reason not to get the series xbox controller.
Potentiometers.

>>723472538
Haptics and triggers are barely supported, but the trackpad is highly versatile. Use it as a mouse for faster camera control or menuing, or simply for extra binds since touch or swipe in different directions gives you a good 8 extra binds to work with.

>>723448745
Same, the grip is perfect, the d-pad is also perfect, the only problem it has is the buttons being too noisy but it's because it uses high quality switches so I got over it. Great controller.

>>723453704
Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Mega Mix+

>>723475573
how do you use the trackpad as a mouse? i have to press the ps button for it to work but if you press for too long the controller turns off

>>723476068
Touchpad -> Output Mode -> Mouse in DS4Windows, then it just works without any additional input
I'd imagine there's a way to do it via Steam Input since the Steam Controller had them too, but I haven't messed with that myself

get something thats made specifically to have a solution or easily fix incase of stick drift. I replaced 2 ps5 controllers so far. Xbox apparently had shit problems too and nobody is having better parts for sticks so every new controller has this problem eventually

>>723468149
I would go with the Elite if QC wasn't abysmal. I bought two v1 and two v2. The first v1 was/is insanely sturdy. I used it for every game 6 hours a day for 5 years. The rubber grip came off in 6 months but not other issues. Still werks. When the sticks didn't feel as snappy (no drift issues) I bought another. Drift in 3 months. Elite 2? Face buttons faulty out of the box, bumpers die in a few months. I don't mind spending and the underside pads are the most comfortable I ever had but FUCK Xbox. This is not even lottery anymore (one of my two Series controllers was also faulty out of the box). I bought a third party EasySMX for $55 and it feels extremely similar to the standard Xbox controller except it has underside buttons, gyro, a built in (albeit small) battery and the buttons never miss.
I'm at that point where I rather try my luck with third parties than hoping I get a good Xbox controller.

>>723475887
Based MiguHead. Stay healthy and strong, homie.

>>723448106 (OP)
got myself a Gamesir G7-SE recently and it seems great so far. I'm comparing it a 10+ years old 360 gamepad and only time will tell if G7 is a sturdy one.

>>723476964
u2 pal enjoy your weekend!