Thread 723635747

Even game devs realize that games are inferior

seth rogan is eternal

>>723635747 (OP)
Unless you release remasters for $50+tax and tip

>>723635747 (OP)
*nintendo games

>>723635747 (OP)
Tell that to diablo2, you barely human freak.

stop running?

>>723635747 (OP)
yeah eternal FLOPS lmao

Imagine thinking this and you choose to make something like the Mario Movie.

>>723635747 (OP)
>games eventually stop running
Only if you're a console retard, thanks Nintendies!

>>723635861
Perfectly reasonable thing to say for a console maker.

>>723635747 (OP)
the real answer is money

Its cute how japan pretends emulation doesnt exists

>>723635747 (OP)
>what is a PC
asks a japoid

>>723635747 (OP)
he tries hard to make them inaccessible but emulators and pirates have against his wishes preserved most of nintendo catalogue for future generations.

>>723635747 (OP)
What he's really saying is that movies have longer pop cultural appeal.
If you want to sell Mario-themed coffee mugs and blankets based on the video games, you'll need to release a new Mario game every few years as the old ones are forgotten about.
But if you release a Mario movie that's highly successful you can keep selling your Mario-branded toasters and dildos based on the reputation of that single film alone for decades since people will keep re-watching it on Netflix.

>>723635747 (OP)
Does he know that movies are even easier to pirate than games?

>>723636245
They dont though.

>>723635747 (OP)
“Games eventually stop running”
>proceeds to make the same game for forty fucking years
>oh but this one it’s 2d in 3d!
>hahaha get it? Like paper!
>but it’s still mar…
>yeah it’s still Mario

>>723636245
The mario movie has already been forgotten
Meanwhile Mario 64 is still relevant
Making movies is much easier though

japs way of thinking is so 20 years ago when movies may have still meant something. Now is the era of oversaturated disposable slop. Same with the theme parks.

>>723635747 (OP)
Famitsu thread lurkers will now start hating all videogames and suck off Rogan Kong.

this is why we need emulation

>>723635747 (OP)
this mofo can't possibly be the one saying this shit when 3 of the games he created in his 20s have been the flagships carrying the company for the past 4 decades
even to this day there are collectors overpaying for donkey kong arcade machines

>>723635747 (OP)
>Eventually stop running
Rape Miyamoto. He deserves it. This man hates video games and gamers. There's no other reason he could think to say this.

>>723635747 (OP)
>mario kart every gen the same thing
>mario party every gen the same thing
>mario tennis every gen the same thing
>new super Mario bros every gen the same thing
We know you think this way you fucking hack lmao

>>723635994
The Japanese in general don't care as much for retro gaming. They are good little consumers who always need the newest products instead of just enjoying old stuff

>>723635747 (OP)
>games eventuelly stop running
Not if you release them on pc faggot

Imagine saying that and thinking you're not the problem lmao

>>723637147
imagine thinking the Demake of Demon Souls is the "superior" version. Ill rip that fuckers head off for saying something that stupid.

>>723635747 (OP)
>Even the most famous video game maker is not a fan of video games
Grim. Is there any video game dev that actually LOVES video games as a medium?

>>723635747 (OP)
Absolutely, let me just pop my vhs tape in-
ACK!

modern nintendo is fucking trash
Iwata would kill all these mfs

>>723635747 (OP)
Full article https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/63038
Seems very out of context sentences, especially when followed by
> "films evoke nostalgia that leads people to repurchase the games, creating a synergistic effect across media,"
So in the context of the mario galaxy movie, it sounds a lot like trying to re-sell your own childhood at full price.

Still, saying that "films remain forever" is extremely wrong. Who, despite people interested in movie history, is still watching (or buying at full price) movies from 1920s? Why is there so many movie remakes? ...

>>723635747 (OP)
Games don't stop running on their own, corporations force them to stop running in any way they can

>>723635747 (OP)
That there is any interest in the Mario movies is ludicrous to me. It's a big brand of course, but it's fucking Mario. What's so interesting about seeing it in movie form? I don't care for the idea of games being adapted to film or TV in general, but at least I can imagine someone wanting to see a game with a gripping narrative played out in film, what does Mario have?

>>723637759
Toby Fox.

>>723635994
Pretty much everyone in Japan emulates with the Nintendo Switch Online subscription

>>723635861
Japan has no concept of emulation outside when they need it, as well as not preserving the thing they worked on

>>723639132
lol
he just likes lesbian smut

>>723635747 (OP)
>games stop running
hmm
>launch Corncob 3D
>still runs fine
works on my machine, miyamoto-kohai

>>723635747 (OP)
>Games eventually stop running when newer versions come out, but films remain forever"
What a fucking echo-chamber Miyamoto is in when tons of people continue to play his 8bit and 16bit games.

>>723639784
That level took me weeks to beat as a kid
Its incredible it made it into the game at all, the rest of the special stages are cake by comparison

>>723639876
I think most would agree that Tubular is the hardest level in SMW.

>>723635747 (OP)
he's right, nobody's been able to play games like mario 64 or ping pong anymore
it's all lost media we'll never have again

>>723635747 (OP)
>retcons Ura Zelda
>retcons the Koopa Kids
>retcons Princess Peach
>retcons video games as a medium
Nintendo fans will follow this guy off a cliff

>>723635861
to the average normalfag, the moment there's a new version that means the old version is worthless (and this goes for everything). this was a common mindset in gaming back in the 90's and early 00's but most people with a brain realized it's bullshit. normalfags still believe it.

>>723636245
>What he's really saying is that movies have longer pop cultural appeal.
No they don't lol. There are going to be good movies that get remembered and get re-released even decades later, just like video games, but for every good one dozens of ones that range from horrible to forgettable.

I would feel inferior too if I only made video games for toddlers.

>>723635861
Buy Mario 10, throw away Mario 9 and get excited for Mario 11

>>723636245
it's more that games age because they require input from players and how you control them evolves whereas tv shows and movies don't. it's like books, you can read a book from 100 years ago and it's still incredible and the way you interact with books has not fundamentally changed since the invention of the printing press. you read the words and turn the page, even on ereaders.

meanwhile playing a nes game is very different than playing a ps5 game. a show like the sopranos is just as good now as it was when it came out because you watch tv in the same exact way you did back then.

>>723641991
Games having basically stagnated since about 2005 though. There really hasn't been any significant development in gaming for quite a while now and all we're really getting is slightly better looking versions with essentially the same design philosophies. There is a huge difference between say Super Mario World and Mario 64 buy that difference keeps getting smaller and smaller with ever later release. The motion controls of the Wii and stuff like the Xbox Kinect just ended up being fads and VR gaming has never truly taken off. Where really is the innovation that will take gaming to the next level?

>>723635747 (OP)
More like "we made so much money from Mario movie horey shit maybe Disney was onto someting"

>>723635747 (OP)
ESL translation aside, why the fuck Nintendo hasnt come up with a new IP the last years? I remember their last new game series was Splatoon, but that was an online mostly slop to combat shit games like Overwatch

>>723635861
Nintendo really doesn't want you to emulate their games, and their subscription service will determine when you get to play their back catalog.

>>723642772
>The motion controls of the Wii and stuff like the Xbox Kinect just ended up being fads
Gyro aiming brah

>>723643002
Ring Fit Adventure sold like 15 million. Nintendo have been the best at making new IPs lately in the last decade

>>723642772
The majority of games in 2005 are still structurally very different than games today. An open world game was something like Shadow of the Colossus compared to any of the modern ones. You had World of Warcraft which was basically 10 years ahead of every game at release but that was really it.

You can compare Yakuza 1 to a modern beat em up Yakuza and it's still a very different beast even if they share the same foundation. Something like Ys Origin to Ys X is another example. Personally, I think a lot of the modern design philosophies are worse than the older ones but they're still very different. If that wasn't the case, there wouldn't be people preferring older games because they're less padded, don't have mtx, don't hold your hand as much, etc.

>>723643234
Not a new ip. Those Fit games have existed since the Wii tho.

>>723643234
>Ring Fit Adventure
That is just a sequel to Wii fit and its first time I hear about this. Also
>Posting a shitty fitness game that consists of minigames
I was talking about real videogame IPs

>>723635747 (OP)

Zoomers dont even know about accessible and entertaining well aged movies. In fact their knowledge of Terminator 2 vs their knowledge of Half Life 1 is probably equal.

>>723636442
japan has been stuck in 2007 for 2 decades

>>723642772
>There is a huge difference between say Super Mario World and Mario 64
No shit Sherlock, that's what happens when you go from 2D to 3D.

>Games having basically stagnated since about 2005 though
Because there's no where else to go. The leap from 2D to 3D was significant because the addition of the third plane allowed that.

The reason I highlighted these parts of your comment is because the argument about stagnation is dumb when you only recognize a jump in dimensions as the gaming industry moving forward. Well, I've got some news for you. 4D games and beyond will never take off because we operate in a three dimensional world. Don't make stupid comments like this again because you will get roasted for it.

>But muh Kinect and Wiimote
Controller gimmicks. They don't have anything to do with the software itself.

>>723635747 (OP)
Nintendo are complicate in making last year's hardware obselite. They shut down online services to consoles faster than any other brand.

>>723641991
books are for women

>>723635747 (OP)
Miyamoto is legally retarded, how many times have they resold super Mario bros?

>>723641991
Is that why indie devs don’t stop making 8bit throwbacks? Super Mario will not become lost art like Roman concrete. Also you can always adapt to older tech.

>>723644246
>indie dev makes retro inspired 2d game
>it's a soulslike

>>723639189
what’s the matter are they stupid

>>723635861
You're gonna have to wait at least another 20 years for all the old fart japanese men to die off in Nintendo and the younger generations begin trying their hardest to figure out how to get all those DS and 3DS games on modern nintendo consoles for the easy cash

isn't that kind of a failure of the media coverage that surrounds it though
people who write about vidya are both manchildren and failed journalists, you can't expect people like that to elevate a medium

>>723647030
They can get jailed just for modding, what else would they do

>>723635747 (OP)
why does he always look like he is holding in a fart?

>>723647435
That's just old people in general

>>723643197
Nintendo probably secretly (publicly) want to do something like the Disney Vault where they only allow access to old content for a limited period of time at premium prices.

>>723635747 (OP)
>games eventually stop running
I'm glad nintendo has finally gone mask-off with their goal
they do NOT want you to be able to play those old roms and they will NOT sell those vast rom libraries to you
you WILL buy the occasional remaster or mini console to play a few of them

>>723635747 (OP)
Uhhhhh
What are emulators?

>>723650173
illegal

>>723635994
You do realize that that's illegal right?

>>723641029
Also
>got the ball rolling for the inshittification of Paper Mario
>brought back Starfox so he could kill it all over again with retarded motion controls in a shitty retread of 64

Hey morons in this thread
Emulation is illegal
You are advocating for criminal activity
You're so fucking dumb if you don't understand why it's a nonstarter as an argument

>>723651287
Holy shit I swear I didn't know! Please don't report me to FBI.

>>723635747 (OP)
Hoping it's a shit translation, because no matter what angle you approach it from he's wrong and it lacks insight into both industries.

If he's referring to physical media/hardware, both industries have degrading physical mediums. Digitizing old film is essentially the same thing as game emulation, it's not the same experience but it's good enough for 90% of people.

If he's talking about digital availability in an age of updates and digital content potentially being lost this is a huge issue in the film industry too. A fuck ton of films can't be "legally" watched anymore and plenty of films are exclusive to digital storefronts with no option to own.

Not to mention how fucking huge of a deal lost media is in the film industry. Taking a random example, look how much of early Doctor Who is still lost media.

If he's talking about sequels/remakes eclipsing originals this just isn't the case. Look at how many people still think OoT is the best Zelda game and prefer the N64 version to the remake.

This is a fucking grim statement coming from Miyamoto that displays surface level insight into both film and videogames.

I have Miyamoto fatigue

>>723635861
You will own nothing and be happy, goyim.

videogames are disposable, cinema is forever.

>>723652219
>look how much of early Doctor Who is still lost media.

The silent film era of movies is even worse than that. A huge percentage of those films burnt up in flames and are gone forever. Doctor Who at least has audio recordings of every episode and the possibility of a few episodes being found in private collections

Only piracy and emulation can ensure videogame preservation.

>>723654805
BILLIANT, Hideo kohjima you did it again!

>>723635861
It's a console thing, PC players wouldn't understand.

>>723635747 (OP)
What the fuck is he even talking about? Senile motherfucker should just retire at this point.

>>723656701
The profit-oriented suit he will be replaced by can only be worse

this nigga is senile. that doesn't make sense even if you factor out emulation.

>>723635747 (OP)
>>723635861
STOP RUNNING!

>Says man who literally trashed every fucking one of his long-running IPs that wasn't Mario.

Like, people still make unreal projects of games like Ocarina of Time, hoping these retards wake up and come to their senses one day.

>>723652219
>it's a shit translation
Every time someone from Nintendo says something their fans don't like, they try to use this excuse.
It's getting tiresome.

he is simply lying because they figured out they can outsource all the cg work to some shitter studio like illumination probably employing majority indians and make a shitzillion dollars

Absolutely the right move. Now they can focus on making masterpiece game movies that everyone still talks about decades later.

Like that really good video game movie from the 90s... uhh... that one. Or the really good one from 00s, the umm... yeah. Or that amazing video game movie from the 2010s...

NAME ONE GOOD VIDEO GAME MOVIE, FAGGOT

>>723650423
Emulators have time and again been proven not to be illegal when contested. Litigation is successful when the user flagrantly or haphazardly admits they source the games from illegal means.

If nintendo raids someones house and find a room full of physical games they personally dumped and a drive of ONLY those titles and tried to catch them out theyd fail. Of course nobody is this airtight so eventually they find a violation

>>723658042
Japan has been outsourcing purely animated projects to Thailand, Vietnam and Korea for decades, Nintendo is STILL behind in this practice because they jist earn money then talk shit about how

>>723658319
>Like that really good video game movie from the 90s
You mean Mortal Kombat?

>>723635747 (OP)
Not really most people haven't watched a single marylin Monroe film

>>723650514
Bad bait! Bad!

These badly translated articles are proof of how garbage is journalism in general.