Thread 723682779

>started bad
>is actually a pretty good MMO now

>bethesda
>good
page 10

>it's actually really good now guys!
You and No Man's Sky fans can keep your slop to yourselves for all I care

>>723682779 (OP)
There are no builds. The only way to play is to get a powerarmor + minigun and pump enemies. Some of the game elements are fine but this whole thing could worked better as a single player game with optional coop.

>>723682779 (OP)
The game is unironically fine for its first half but once you start crossing over to the other half of the map, it starts becoming a painful experience because they want to pressure you into buying Fallout 1st.

>>723684105
Im having fun though.

>>723682779 (OP)
>Still no npc followers

>>723682779 (OP)
>ackshually, nukes didn't destroyed the world. It was a bunch of vault dwellers that got lose on the world and started blowing shit up

>>723682779 (OP)
It's pretty good but I wish shit like marsupial and potentially jetpacks were never added. I see people online complaining about how the jetpack ruins their characters look yet they refuse to fucking remove it cause they're addicted to the crutch. It also makes any type of level design pointless. A lot of REAL women play this game for some reason and they treat it like it's The Sims.

>Due to the success of FO4 & 76 all Fallout will be now is settlementslop for the foreseeable future
Feelsbadman

>>723689282
i blame that dogshit mod for 3 which started it all

>>723689282
I'm not gonna pretend they ever became smash hits like League or PUBG or some shit, but it is sort of amazing and disheartening that Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout 76 have apparently limped to enough profitability that they're Bethesda's main revenue streams now and actively disincentivize TES6/FO5 development

>mmo
nah. mmos have content patches and not like three dogshit bosses as the only thing to do for five years straight

>>723687762
>A lot of REAL women play this game for some reason and they treat it like it's The Sims.

>actual "game" portion is comically, babby mode dogshit easy
>primary meta focuses are building the prettiest fanciest dollhouse possible and getting the most fashionable cash shop items to dress up your character (including making your actual gear invisible)
>femoid audience floods in

>>723689357
I've played so much 4 and 76 that it's actually jarring to go back to 3 and New Vegas and remember that there was a time when Fallout wasn't Minecraft

It is pretty decent desu

>>723689587
>Primary meta is cosmetic shit
You are fucking retarded.

>>723684731
>minigun
That's how you know this anon at the very least, hasn't played since launch.

>>723691950
>Since launch
The Minigun was never meta.

>>723692113
Nevermind meta. It's almost frightening how terrible of a place it's still in. Bethesda must be really invested in the "supermutants can use it but you can't" meme.
Game gets an extended combat revamp that raises the viability of practically everything, and the minigun is still shit no matter what prefixes you give it.

>>723692416
I have a soft spot for it, but I just stick to X-01 and the Plasma Caster. At least the Minigun can take advantage of the revamped Heavy Gunner perks while the Plasma Caster is left in the dust.

>>723692575
Plasma caster's still perfectly usable if you use reverse onslaught at least. The main problem is it's supposed to be a "heavy" weapon, but now shit like sniper laser rifles are outdamaging it. I don't know what its niche is supposed to be - I think even normal plasma rifles are outperforming it now.

Bullet storm isn't helping the mini much at all though. It's not just that it compares badly to gatplas or gauss. It's just that it's shit period.

>>723692756
>Plasma caster's still perfectly usable if you use reverse onslaught at least.
Using it that way makes it a weapon for trash mobs, which every weapon pretty much excels at now. Not bad, but definitely not as good as it used to be before the changes. I'm just saying that the Minigun can still use the perks that were changed.

you WILL play the drill stage

>>723693018
>Laughs in canisters replaced with space stations

>>723692575
>>723692416
Minigun sucks but Gauss Minigun exists
There's a couple weapons like that, there's literally no reason to use a .44 when the Western Revolver exists, a Plasma Rifle when the Enclave Plasma Rifle exists, etc.

>>723693857
In fairness, in EPR's case, it can be hard to get the configuration you want since you can't learn the plans. Unless you find one to buy or get lucky on a drop, it can take a lot of time, but you can learn all the plasma gun's mods normally. That time multiplies if you're looking for more than one(ex: you want both an EPR flamer and sniper)
You also used to not have a choice if you wanted a plasma with the pulse glitch, but they fixed that again so fuck you bethesda.

>>723682779 (OP)
It would be more playable if you get infinite storage space without paying a monthly subscription on an already pay2play game.

>>723682779 (OP)
>still no mods
Lol
Lmao

>>723689558
>he doesn't know about the 3+ bosses added over the past 5 years

Played it during a free week and it was surprisingly okay, picked it up when it was on sale for like $10 and been playing it on and off for a while now
I'm still genuinely surprised bethesda seems to have stuck with supporting the game for this long after watching how bad the game launched

>>723694830
Its playerbase peaked with the tv show
Which is fucking weird, for a game's popularity to suddenly begin five years after it launched

>>723687762
Jetpacks are alright but agreed on marsupial being fucking dumb, but too many kangaroo jumping retards would complain if it was removed or even nerfed now.

>>723694830
What were they supposed to do, make Fallout 5? They were betting on Starfield keeping them afloat for the next decade like Skyrim did, now they're fucked lol

i played it during its boom, its 4/10. on par with skyrim, starfield, fallout 4. all 4's.

>>723682779 (OP)
except it's neither an mmo nor is it good at all you bethdrone shitstain

should I play this if I'm not a homosexual?

>>723682779 (OP)
Should I reinstall? I haven't played in like 2-3 years. It was ok at the time, just felt pigeonholed into using power armor.

>>723687762
>>723695927
Jetpacks suck and Marsupial is kino
The best chest upgrade by far is the one that eliminates stagger animations

>>723696353
>>723684731
I don't know what you guys are talking about, power armor is shid compared to Unyielding secret service armor

>>723696290
Just grab the appropriate mods from basedmods and you're good to go.

>>723696394
>Not having Unyielding PA

>>723696353
Yes
trust me it's actually good now compared to it's dogshit launch

>>723696514
>just cheat bro

>>723682779 (OP)
The game would be better if all the retarded daily limits were dropped or at least raised, like for getting secret service armor you're looking at a month straight of grind, it's retarded

>functionally a single player game
>can't use the command console or mod your game because muh economy
>economy is dogshit anyway but you have to pretend it matters
Yup! It's shit.

>>723696612
You can get Civil Engineer armor just for doing a quest line which is almost as good defensively and has a great weapon durability buff

Never cared about 76 once I learned you can't mod it. If I can't make my girl cute then I don't wanna play it.

>>723696691
You can also visit other players' purdy dollhouses and show them the ones you've built yourself

>It's actually good
Shit game with arbitrary currency caps and extremely limited storage space. And no, I'm not paying a subscription to actually get useful storage Todd.

Fallout 76 has canon assaultron wife

Ingame voice lines from her
https://vocaroo.com/1c04i6B08gwb
https://vocaroo.com/1dNZgzj7LY2y
https://vocaroo.com/18YfhYqVpENc

>>723692756
>They fucked up my bloodied aimbot vats 1 tap plasma caster build
Good to know so I have more reason to never play this shit again.

My endpoint was realizing that even a 10mm with an AP crit build can kill everything in the game like you're playing fallout4 on easy and it thankfully broke me of any delusion legendary farming mattered or the game was good.

>>723696858
>10mm with an AP crit build can kill everything
Tell that to EN06 and the snake

>>723682779 (OP)
then post gameplay?
literally, can some anon who unironically plays 76, pls explain what's there to do, what's the grind, endgame

>>723696830
>extremely limited
stop storing your gay level 5 weapons, retard. there's literally no reason to hoard heavy shit with how crafting is

I am deathly afraid of bloatflies for some reason and last I checked there's no mod to remove them so I can't play it. Which sucks because I think I'd like it.

>>723682779 (OP)
Sure, all 5000 players are happy about it

>>723696986
It's Fallout 4 in a new bigger more rural map except you can jump 20 feet and VATS doesn't pause the game (but still gives you a wicked aimbot and crit ability)

>>723696556
>have uny PA before legendary PA was a thing
>Faggots complain about uny PA before it becomes a thing
I will, because PA looks better than the gay armor in this game

>>723696556
>He didn't steal a set years ago when duping was running rampant

>>723689282
This series is piece of crap since F3 si whatever, it probably for the best and players actually can have some fun with that.

>>723696936
>B...b...but the destiny 10 years late team objective faggot mode that didn't bring anyone back
I think you don't understand just how damage normalized your gay game is. Take any piece of trash that uses your perks and see for yourself, then uninstall with your great and terrible knowledge that your le godrolls have the same gameplay effect.

>>723697304
They took godrolls out a year ago shithead

>>723697372
>J...j...jokes on you they nerfed my gear shithead!
Lol, lmao even

>>723696394
Juggernaut is a comparable damage prefix now, especially since adrenalin only gives streak damage instead of health scaling now, though furious is better in a lot of circumstances.
If you're not a VATS build or melee, the gains of unyielding become a little "eh w/e", whereas you can get good performance out of a full-hp PA build. Though PA is clearly biased towards heavy weapons with shit like bullet shield and stabilized.
Not to mention unyielding is absolute garbage for ghoul characters. Being a ghoul and not taking advantage of glow is the most retarded thing you can do with one.

>>723692575
>>723692416
>>723692113
I never really used the minigun for damage, a long time ago I got a vampire prefix on one and its been my mainstay for healing in a full health heavy armor build since. its more of a utility item for me so I basically can't die when its out.

Fallout 76 is just better 4. It ditches the retarded story of 4 for better gameplay and it worked. 4 is actually fucking trash holy shit why is it still a thing

>>723696691
You dont enjoy games anyway by using console commands. You just want meaningless cred of completing games you hate

>>723697676
NTA but you can literally craft your own shit now, retard.

>>723696986
there is plenty of quests for new players to do that take you through the whole game but once you've caught up all there is left to do is:
>do daily and weekly quests for battle pass
>do daily scrip missions to trade for gold
>spend said gold on armor and weapon plans
>do hourly events for legendary farming
>launch a nuke and fight the the boss of your choosing
>grind daily ops for ammo and unique armors
>grind expeditions for unique gear

you can do all this shit in about 2 hours a day and after that all you have left is exploring and killing mindlessly or grinding for some other resource like crafting materials or caps.

>>723697097
Yeah and?
The game filtered 99% of the planet including you

>>723696986
End game is now Raids and seasonal events
Bounty Hunting will be the next end game thing for awhile until something new comes out

>>723699065
hey it's the same % as actual shit, you should try and eat it then

>>723682779 (OP)
>pretty good MMO
So it's a shit game, got it

>>723684149
I wish it was easier to make fun of the two type problem
It just comes off as autistic to point it out despite doing it in the first place being the autistic thing, like walking up to a woman and yelling TYPE 2

And this is pushed by the people who didn't want to be defined by labels

>>723699065
my dear friend internet historian personally told me that the game wasn't good so I didn't play it

>>723699178
>shit
But that is what 99.9% of /v/ likes?
You should enjoy it along with the rest of us

>>723699491
>internet historian
That video was almost 10 years ago now huh?
Maybe you should give the game another chance

>>723699591
>trying to deflect this hard
lmao
go grow up and have some taste, kid

>>723699429
>I don't have enough IQ to understand body is not the same as mind

>>723699623
i'll wait until my friend recommends it.

>>723699675
Name a good game
You literally can’t cuck

>>723699969
In the Fallout franchise? I can name you 3, they're all in the first row.

>>723700031
Nah name an actual good franchise
You literally can’t you cuck

>>723700046
>goal post
>moved
i accept your concession

>>723700107
You lost already because you didn’t answer the question
/v/ can’t name a good game because they are all bad

>>723700165
>jeethesda drone having a melty
lmao

>>723700236
Nah I just think video games are shit and I love wasting your time here kek

>>723700165
also
>nvtroon saying top three are good
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Go join the 41%

>played the game for like 2 weeks
>got a super rare drop that dudes who have like 2000 hours complain they have never gotten (scout masks)
>sold instantly
>made an endgame build
>kill everything in 0.5 seconds
>no challenge left
>get bored
>uninstall
great game

>>723700451
Go play raids

>>723697097
On PC it had a peak of 14k today but thats not counting people on all consoles like ps5 or xbox, bethesda launcher for people who don't use steam.

Apparently it had 1 million concurrent players a year ago.

>>723700236
Aww where did you go?
I accept your concession now :)

>>723700165
>electronic toys are no longer good after you grow up
Great observation! Nice one Billy! What other things can you notice?

>>723700718
Yeah sure, there's actually 343435 gorrillion people playing somewhere in hidden stats!
Last time i've heard this nonsense was the first descendant and it died in 3 months

It was always good
t. 600 hours
stopped playing when they removed guns with "unintended mod combinations"

I loved my explosive plasma gatling that would just delete mobs and players

>>723689727
I've played so much 4 and 76 that I'm happy when I go back to Fallout 3 where there are no pride flags, there's actual homophobic slang, there's a lack of anti-white, anti-male characters, the universe is lighthearted, the game is an RPG, not an FPS, and most importantly I don't give a shit about collecting random garbage on the ground.

>>723696852
>Fallout 76 has canon assaultron wife
Is that the strong woman who doesn't need any man? Like every assaultron despite being designed as a sex toy by a horny male artist?
Like how at the top of the world is a waaaacky female Mrs Handy?

>>723701154
That this thread and everyone in it is a faggot including me and you

>>723699715
What are you talking about?

>>723701725
They didn’t remove those though
You can still have explosive on energy weapons
In fact they are even worse now than back then

>>723701937
>the game is an RPG
Wow let's not go crazy too much about fallout theme park

>>723702120
Anon, RPGs are theme parks.
D&D campaigns are literally
>enter theme park
>bleh! I am evil vampyre overlord and I vill suck your blood, but not right now, we can have another talking encounter in a few sessions before our final showdown in another ten after that
>welcome to the safe village of questgivers
>over here is the kiddy ride for low level adventurers, the cellar full of rats!
>over here is the graveyard of slightly more difficult zombies!
>eventually you'll be able to go to the evil final boss castle! Just over that hill. You must be this high a level to enter

>>723702040
I haven't logged back in to check
They said in some update / patch video that they'd be removing such effects, but who knows
just can't be arsed to go back, unless I get a friend to join me

>>723702468
I have a gatling plasma with explosive and use it every single day
Trust me legacies are still in the game but aren’t as powerful

>>723682779 (OP)
It was better at launch without the npcs. The game felt more desolate and post apocalyptic and made running into other players feel better.

lol

Its a janky piece of shit, wtf you guys smoking

>>723702463
Is Fallout universe (actual Fallout universe, not bethesda made parodies) in any way similar to the typical fantasy genre, retard? Is there dnd rules?

>>723702463
Have you ever played D&D unironically? What you described is a poor campaign lead by a mediocre GM which reinforces expectations unstead of subverting them aka fucking boring

A little late to the party but what did you anons think of pic related?
Writing/humor was absolutely fucking godawful here and there, but overall I think they did a pretty good job

>>723703019
If "overall" means "they hired actual people" and "staff was able to use camera" then yes, pretty good job.

>>723682779 (OP)
The only thing I remember about this game is that players used to COC themselves into a developer room using console and get all the items in the game with infinite caps, players used to unlock FPS limit making the engine go nuts and increasing their movespeed tenfold, undroppable items appering in players inventories randomly, exploits that allow you to steal from other players, and thats only a top of the iceberg
The whole game is a shitfest built on a nigger bethesda engine that is not suitable even for a small scale multiplayer in the first place, not even talking about a whole MMORPG that they've tried building on it

>>723703210
What did you hate about it the most?

>>723703352
Raping the lore by the sole reason the manlet still assmad about new vegas.

>>723702787
You're right anon, GURPs is in no way related to rolling dice.

>>723702905
Yes. I've also played with good DMs and GMs in multiple systems.
Tourist syndrome is very real because it's fun to go from place to place and to go on the rides.


I don't understand how we're going through this conversation
>>yeah I don't like 4 and 76 because there's no RPG and it's just an action FPS
>woooah duuuuude but like theme park
>>yes, and?
>rabble rabble rabble Fallout isn't D&D!
>rabble rabble rabble D&D is amazing, especially current D&D with its quirky gender special coffee shop fantasy!
ffs you're yelling about how good RPGs are to defend fallout 76, a rooty tooty point and shooty quest compass troon simulator.

>bethesda
>good
lol
>>723703019
Corporate streaming service slop based on "nerdy media" made by normalfag retards who hate nerdy media episode #6301
That is all.

>>723703435
>rolling dice is dnd
why don't you go back to sharty, moron?

>>723703416
In English please

>>723703552
No.

>>723701937
>>723702463
He is fully correct, normalfaggot. Fallout 1 and 2 were RPGs. 3 was a corporate theme park dropping random "iconic fallout things" while attracting only normie scum that never cared about Fallout or RPG's, only wanted more open world garbage

>>723703530
>we role play every encounter and describe our attacks
>we haven't used a d20 like ever
Coffee shop

>>723696691
so its like a gacha without banners?

>>723689727
Bet it would blow your mind to go back to a time when Fallout was a RPG and not corporate open world garbage.

>>723682779 (OP)
Why the fuck are you still bitching about it. Kill Yourself Right Now faggot

>"I know that as a mutant I will be able to survive in this situation, but I still think you should die here because it's your destiny or something. But don't worry, you will then be resurrected once Bethesda realizes making a open world game that just ends without an option to continue in post-game is fucking retarded so it's all meaningless anyway lol"
This is the best RPG ever according to Bethesda cultists

>>723698521
>The box grind
>Good
>Didn't show you how unchanged gameplay was with that perfect last star
/fog/gets are truly the most buckbroken group in all of mmolite online games

>>723682779 (OP)
on the contrary.
It started pretty good besides the usual bethesda bugs.
I loved the eerie atmosphere, I loved hoping you'd find someone at the next quest only to find their corpse or a note saying goodbye.
I crushing sense that your vault was the only thing left and you had to act quickly or even you'd all be dead to the scorch plague.
I loved the initial world levels, where new areas were dangerous.

I've hated the game ever since Wastelanders. Fuck these NPCs.
especially fuck these new NPCs in muh whitesprings.
wtf is modus doing letting these POORS in.

The new content? No sir, I don't like it.

I miss Nuclear Winter.
I never thought I'd like it, but I miss it xisters.

>>723705206
You might have autism, anon. Original pre-Wastelanders questline is boring fucking dogshit, only Rose salvaged it a little bit.

>>723703019
story, shit. You can tell it was made by a corporate committee with do-gooders having to look over it.
atmosphere, great. You can tell they hired a bunch of people who love the series, got them to make the most believable props, costumes and locations then ignored them entirely on the lore.
The part of the lore that snuck in are prop based and probably went over the producers heads.

>>723682779 (OP)
Got to the point where I can solo EN06, just need a lot of stims each fight.

>>723705382
Yes.
No.
Rose is mai waifu.

>>723682779 (OP)
The only good thing about it is all the ports to FO4. FO76 is complete garbage as a game
God bless the modders and fuck Bethesda

>>723705635
I honestly can not play FO3/NV/4/Skyrim/Oblivion without increasing the minimum jump distance now.
Marsupial was too good.

>>723705462
>Half of guns foam made up bullshit, but not the ones from fallout
>Other half real firearms, but not the ones in fallout
I had too many absolute retarded faggots think that toy revolver le ghoul carries was an actual bakalai and not just some 3D printed nonsense that kind of looks like one to respect any of the "detail" in their props. The power armor is also cheap and dumb, there are cinema tricks to making something look like it moves with weight and they knew how to use none of them. And that final fight against the scrappy brown NCR used whatever the prop house on hand, couldn't even spring for foreground NV service rifle with and extras with normal ARs in the background.

>>723703019
Walton Goggins ghoul is actually getting added to fo76 as a quest, fully voiced by the man himself

He was the best part of the show by a wide margin so i think that's pretty neat

I dip in and out a couple times a year

Actually glad to see they buffed a shitload of weapons that were trash and re-worked perks to remove most of the flat damage increases

>tfw missed gram event this year and no pepper shaker

>>723705943
Like all similar shows it has a very small budget so most of the props are whatever they can get their hands on. I doubt that the revolver was made specifically for the show

Do they still have FOMO season battlepasses that require you to do 95% of the dailies and weeklies in the season to finish that consist of "challenges" like 'collect 20 deathclaw eggs" and "eat six sandwitches"? Untill they get rid of that I refuse to play it.

>>723706785
>Fallout 76 morons can only get pepper shaker through the FOMO event
>Fallout 4 chads just have it in the game all the time, plus it's the better version with custom animations, more attachments and ammo types.
>>723706831
It's still in the game and isn't going anywhere. This shit is literally one of the pillars of Fallout 76.

>>723706831
Yes, but it's not as fomo anymore aside from cosmetics and a handful of camp utilities (which suck anyway), stuff with actual in game use like new weapons get added to the gold bar stores at the end of a season

>>723694306
This
ffxiv has clientside mods but f76 still has nothing?

>>723706814
>Well yeah of course it sucks, but a lot of things suck so...
I forgot about the fucking bump helmets. When you're already using what clearly is EVA foam for everything a cosplay level NCR chest plate and Amazon pith helmet isn't going to break the budget. Unless it's being laundered instead of spent.

>>723707010
>>723707014
Should have made all the seasons purchasable for ten bucks to make them permenant so you can finish them at your own pace or have them be permenant as long as you have the subscription. Also re-work the challenges to be based more off of general exp gained.

>>723707446
I'm not defending this crap.
>isn't going to break the budget
It will
It goes beyond the production of movies and TV shows, US economy is so fucked that even the most basic things cost absolutely ridiculous amounts of money
>Unless it's being laundered instead of spent
No, you're just dealing with too many middlemen