Thread 723691832

Old School Runescape has hands-down the best world traversal and progression in all of MMOs
Am I wrong?

>>723691832 (OP)
No
That would be regular RuneScape, back before OSRS was a thing
There was a brief moment where the world wasn't filled with a thousand teleports including free ones to get you everywhere you needed to go

>call it oldschool runescape
>map is 500x bigger than oldschool runescape

>>723691832 (OP)
Looking at this makes me realise how much Brighter Shores is just RS even though they claimed it was doing its own thing
Hopeport is pretty much just Falador + Remington
Hopeforest is practically Seers Village
Mantuban are the dwarven areas and mountains
Crenopolis is just Ardougne
Stonemaw Hill is just going to be Fremennik Province but Dwarves

>>723691832 (OP)
Wait until Sailing comes out next month probably

I've been playing a lot of RuneScape 3 but it just feels so soulless. I would play OSRS but idk.

>>723692060
well tbf to the guy he spent decades of his life crafting most of that world himself only to be pushed out of the world he crafted. I imagine after pouring so much of yourself into something like that its hard to just walk away. How is Brighter Shores now? I checked it out at launch for a few days but decided to give it so more time to bake

>>723691832 (OP)
You aren't. At least I don't think so. Other MMOs feels like rush to endgame to grind raids and that's it. Maybe some RP on top of that and PvP modes.
OSRS also has reason to explore and set some goals for yourself. When I tried WoW, I was told to just grind max level so I could do the raids that actually matter because all old content was considered waste of time because the loot is bad and useless.
Like, what other MMOs add new areas and expansions which have content for low and mid level players as well?

OSRS is so different from other MMOs because it was created by just two brit teens in their parents kitchen. Other MMOs are huge studio projects where profit comes before design.
You really cannot get games like Runescape anymore.

>>723692278
I haven't even looked much into sailing as I don't wanna get "spoiled". Just the few context stuff and what OSRS YT channel uploaded.
I just wonder how transportation works with it and if you can skip stuff or not.

>>723692463
if runescape in general is enough to tickle your tism in the right way osrs is the most rewarding game you can play unironically.

>>723692520
>You aren't. At least I don't think so. Other MMOs feels like rush to endgame to grind raids and that's it.
this, osrs is all about the journey as much as the destination. Been playing since I was 12 (on and off but playing more now than ever) and have never felt like there wasn't something to be working on or new content that wasn't for me

If OSRS was actually fun it wouldn't have over 100k bots on it at a time lol

>>723692520
its hard to say how transportation will be changed with this, I imagine some new charter ships will be added for sure for quick travel, but i dont think youll be able to skip the journey by your own boat. Teleports are a big unlockable incentive for a lot of content out there so I imagine making sure to keep the value there is important. I have nothing but the highest faith they will pull this off right, mainly because I think they feel they have to in order to open up new content avenues and messing up the first new skill will immediately kill that path

>>723692520
>OSRS is so different from other MMOs because it was created by just two brit teens in their parents kitchen.
>You really cannot get games like Runescape anymore.
What? Games get made like that all the time.

>>723692520
I haven't completely kept up with it either but it's my understanding that you can only set sail and dock your ship at certain locations (like Charter Ship ports), and docking at some ports or sailing through whole areas that are "deeper/rougher" is gated by your Sailing level (which is why different seas are color-coded on that map)
I assume that there will additional checks to prevent you from going to places like Morytania, Tirannwyn or Varlamore before you've done the quests to access them, like how Charter Ships work now. I think they specifically used the example of not being able to sail to Crandor without doing Dragon Slayer first.

RS3 > OSRS

But both are bad.

>>723692790
zoomer opinion

>>723692810
>What? Games get made like that all the time.
MMOs made by two randos in their kitchen which runs on almost anything with a web browser? Didn't mean to move goalposts, but wanted to specify bit better what I meant.

>>723692978
not only that but runescape had over 20 years to grow quietly in the background, not to mention OSRS being able to incubate and find its own identity while RS3 took all the modern day gaming bullshit from the execs. Nothing like it exists or could ever exist again in this day and age

>>723692930
Redpill me on RS3. I played a bit, realized I do not want to touch divination with a ten foot halberd and that the aesthetics rubbed me the wrong way so I never bothered.

>>723693087
not him but theres nothing to sell on, play osrs then in a few months when the new jagex ceo comes to the obvious conclusion that the only way to save RS3 at this point is to sunset the current running servers and let those degens play in their corrupted lands while restarting fresh start runescape 3 worlds without the mtx shit.

>>723692463
I had fun with the RS3 League and even played on my basically fresh main account for like two weeks after but I think it's pretty damning that in that entire time I did not meaningfully interact with two entire skills (Summoning and Dungeoneering) at all outside of Dailys and lamping them
There's a lot of cool fun stuff in RS3 and some stuff it does objectively better than OSRS but it's hard to sift through 20 years of bullshit

>>723693165
Honestly treasure hunter without actually paying for it felt like a blessing in some places. I can't stand actually grinding certain skills so just dropping a fat 50k exp drop/bxp drop on them on a daily basis just felt good.

OSRS is just slow clunky and boring.

RS3 is fast clunky and fun.

Pick your poison.

>>723693221
I'd prefer they just look at those skills people don't like to train and instead add fun and engaging ways to train them like they have been with osrs

Also, Runelite is a cheat client.

>>723693362
I think the bigger problem with RS3 is that there simply isn't much of a mid-game community. You can't just stroll up to draynor/barb village and start fishing/wc and end up having a fun discussion with others because there are no others, they're too busy enrage 400000000'ing a boss or grinding for 200m exp in priffidinas or or whatever else.

Playing an ironman is osrs has been one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had in a videogame. I unironically fucking love grinding out a million small upgrades and optimizations and collecting stupid shit

Helmets really are the vegans of OSRS

RS3 and OSRS both suck.

Main, IM, GIM, UIM, it all blows. It's all a tedious chore scape idle simulator bot infested hive mind $15 a month scam. Jagex played you all.

Undeniable truths
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>>723691832 (OP)
Look I'm not opposed to new content but I would delete this from the game instantly.

>>723694161
Zeah went from abysmal dogshit on release to just being bloated and undercooked but Varlamore is the best expansion they've ever done, there is not a single bit of bad useless content in this entire area

>>723694161
Nah brother, L take senpai, Varlamore is bussin. outside hosidius and the slayer dungeon the rest of the north could go though

>>723691902
FPBP, OSRS is gay and for faggot zoomers. Play an 04 or 06 'scape pserver (or even RSC.vet) or get the fuck out. Godwars babbys need not reply.

>>723691832 (OP)
It's probably just the best MMO period. I don't even play it or care about it, but I have some friends who are into it and they talk to me about it a lot, I'm actually kind of envious how good this product is compared to basically every other MMO.

>>723691902
I agree
>>723695070
the problem I have with 04 or 06 rs is the tech and resolution. It's hard to go back from runelite

I LOVE COOKIE CLICKER WITH A GUI!!!!

Skill expression in OSRS is lame. It's just gear and prayer switching. Worst of all, you need to click the things, there aren't even hotkeys for most stuff.

>>723695201
/v/scape has a pretty okay custom client but /v/scape is also run by troons and their worshippers so I can't recommend it. I do agree that the old clients lack way too many QoL features like middle mouse button camera manipulation and xp drops. I think someone was working on getting runelite working with the latest 04scape server but I have no idea if that actually happened or not.

>>723692278
sailing has the potential to be the best update the game has ever seen
I hope they don't fuck it up by being too conservative with rewards. But judging by the recent rewards blog I fear they might be, everything in that blog looked like dead content day 1.
well, regardless of the rewards exploring the world and looking at all the new places and seeing the old world from a new perspective will be fun.

>>723695351
What's /v/scape? Is it similar to that recent 04 scape p server that came out recently?
My issue with modern osrs is it's hardly a MMO anymore. Take away all player to player interaction until 400 hours into the endgame with pvm raiding (which makes no sense with osrs and it's just jagex trying to copy WoW) and it's just a hollow subscription based 1st person game

just play rs3 if u really need to play a Jagex game u will thank me later. u can max in under a year very easily even on an ironman

>>723695610
>Is it similar to that recent 04 scape p server that came out recently?
Back when I was playing it, it was more like an '06 server with some light custom content, but no Hunter and no Construction, and no GE, and no Godwars. I believe they've added all that now but I can't say for certain because I don't play it anymore and haven't for about 5 years.

do not play 2004scape they force you to use discord to even sign up lmfao

>>723695751
>GE added
oh ffs. That's part of the major reasons why osrs is an antisocial game

>>723695863
You wanna play a game with no GE? Check out RSC.vet (that's the URL). It's classic runescape (at least the Preservation server is). They have a fantastic custom client with RSC+ which takes some setting up to get working but you don't need a degree in rocket science or anything.

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>>723691832 (OP)
>progression
FUCM YEAH DUDE!! LEFT CLICK THAT TREE FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS!!!!

>>723697107
you could just go click something else anon, you don't have to just click trees

>>723696096
your gf better be young and thin
we dont care about old fat cows

>>723691832 (OP)
No

>>723694161
It not being what the dev behind it wanted was kind of a painful thing. You can see the idea, but majority of content there is just a waste of time sadly. Like lovakite, as a mining/smithing enthusiast it was a huge letdown. Arceus spellbook is cool tho

>>723691832 (OP)
>just kill this boss thousands of times for your mid tier gear upgrade bro haha
>its called proper progression with a sense of accomplishment!

Not even korean f2p MMOs were this deranged

>>723698259
since you won't stop posting about it what would you suggest as an alternative oh wise one

how the fuck do i wear this armor i got from a goblin

>>723695795
should've made an account before that happened

>>723694161
It's better than what they did in RS3 where they were petrified of making any new terrain for 15 years and just filled the mainland with portals and massive unfitting buildings every 3 steps. Osrs isn't completely guilt-free from doing that either, but the world generally feels expanded rather than condensed. Zeah played a big part in that.

>>723700754
What did OSRS add to the mainland surface? Can't remeber anything besides a few small dungeon entrances. Big areas they've added like Sophanem were completely empty/unreachable before.

>>723701082
>Darkmeyer and Slepe
>everything north of Prifdinnas
>the area south of the poison wastes
>the area south of Uzer is all custom
>Giants' Plateau
There's a lot more of it in caves and stuff too. Most mainland dungeons are bigger in OSRS than in RS3.

>>723691832 (OP)
clicking the minimap and waiting for the character to reach the destination or teleporting all over the place isn't good traversal. Spam clicking shit hundreds of millions of times to watch number go up isn't good progression. The only thing this game gets right are the quests and economy even though they kind of ruined it with the GE.

>>723691832 (OP)
I think quests with no skill requirements and massive XP rewards fuck up the early game. You can get lvl 30 strength and attack just by completing a 20 minute quest.

>>723701438
All or most of those were empty and unreachable, I meant as in a new building in Varrock, that kind of stuff.

>>723701784
to be fair no one knew about that strat for nearly 20 years until an autustic youtuber found it, and changing it now would just anger purists

>>723697828
I thought they got rid of pride events

The quests for progression have aged terribly

>>723701882
nta but off the top of my head they added a bar to lumbridge where you learn about clue scrolls now, the museum basement is changed in varrock, NMZ at Yanille, Mobilizing army minigame taken out and replaced with Myths Guild, a lot of spots in the desert an al kharid. All positive I feel besides NMZ which is literally just recycled content, but it was their first "content" update so i can forgive them, even if i wish it was changed

>>723702343
how so? I see a lot of people saying opinions that don't sound like people who even play the game without given any examples or alternatives

>>723691902
how hard can it be to design a series of fast travel networks with varying costs and access requirements?

>>723702484
morrowind had it figured out 20 years ago it cant be that hard in this the year of our lord two thousand and twenty five

I prefer the way WoW was doing it where you need to interact with other players of a particular class and have them make a portal for you or summon you to where they're at, it was more social. There is nothng social at all about Runescape, everyone has everything they need to get anywhere they want by themselves. It has even gotten so bat that players can make ironmans and ultimate ironmans with the goal of never interacting with anyone else ever. Is it really an MMO if other players are just for show? I don't think so.

>>723703414
Just join a clan, or a friend chat, or a group chat. The main reason I play is to hop on and talk to my clan mates while i fish and watch a show

>>723691832 (OP)
I've played for nearly 20 years and have never been west of Falador.

>be hyped for sailing for months
,>was going to go hard and be one of first people to max it
>Estimated to come out during the busiest time of year for my line of work

Well, guess I'll just 99 it in a few years

>>723704590
you're missing out, thats where all the coolest shit is

>>723704612
hope isnt gone completely, jagex rarely hits their release windows

>>723704627
I will not be pressured into playing as much as I can before the subscription runs out.
Either it's free or I'm free of it.

>>723704793
There's /v/scape if you only care about content up until late 2007