Thread 723884353

Post games that aren’t hated enough. The kind of games that shouldn’t be dismissed or forgotten, but forever remembered for just how terrible they are

bioshock infishit

>>723884353 (OP)
GTA V

>>723884353 (OP)
This game basically shat on everything that made C&C series good.

Witcher 3

>>723884353 (OP)
This and also the new VTMB2. Those 2 should be put in actual fucking textbooks for the few retards actually studying game design in school on what NOT to do when making video games.

>>723884353 (OP)
>1000xresist
>webfishing
>any RETVRN boomer shooter

DOOM and boomer shooters

The most forgettable levels, the most basic gameplay, the same reptitive loop. And most of all you need mods to make it playable, who wants to play a 3D game but not look vertically

this game sucks donkey balls

>>723884452
This.

I dont like this game so it must be bad.

>>723884972
>>723885005
Come on now be serious

Demon's Souls
The prototype that gets too much hype and started the harmful genre cancer known as soulslikes. The gameplay is so slow and the artstyle is ugly to look at.

Coom shit angel

>>723885189
If i dont like it it must be bad.
Only my opinion matters because i am me.

people occasionally post iconoclast when listing good indie games or good metroidvanias and I thought this game was genuinely terrible and embarrassing
its a linear "metroidvania" with 2 or 3 god damn upgrades, a risk-reward system that is very low impact and may as well not be there, and it got easy puzzles, lacks challenging combat, and the story is bad

I feel anger when I see this load of crap get mentioned. I really dont think this game has a single redeeming quality. what an insulting waste of time, not even worth pirating.

>>723885189
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT NOT LIKE THESE GAMES /v/ TOLD ME THEY WERE PERFECT (EVEN THOUGH I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED IT)

Every single extraction shooter.
And unrelated to that: Enter the Gungeon.

>>723884353 (OP)
everything is underhated these days and it's grinding my gears.
>its a good x game but a bad y game
this is the most retarded take ever but it's so common in everything; we're talking about a sequel to a beloved game and you're gonna say it's a good something-else game but a bad sequel? Shut the fuck up, you nigger loving faggot. Just look at any sequel that flopped and get the first review for that, guarantee it will be this retarded opinion.

Games should also be rated out of 5 nowadays; devs don't deserve an over-10 rating because that is why shitty games give some false-hope because some retard rates it a "6/10 bad x but good y"

>>723884353 (OP)
Outward
I even see people shilling this garbage, but beside the music, it really just doesn't do anything well for the sake of being "hard", and it's not even hard, just annoying.

>>723885519
Completely forgettable, I don't think it deserves to be hated but I don't see anything about it being other than " well you played the best now try the rest"

>>723884353 (OP)
Last of Us 1. It absolutely killed modern gaming AAA. Everything single player became Oscar bait sad dad trash since

Sports games

>>723885189
>bro you supposed to be hating on modern popular games, not my childhood games

Dragon's Dogma, boring as shit game that's forgiven because you can make waifus.
EDF games, they keep selling the exact same game for 60 dollars and fans will die on the hill that its better than Helldivers
Vampire Survivors, /v/ pretty much writes it off as FOTM slop, but fans of "survivor-likes" keep sucking its dick very hard. There are much better alternatives (Halls of Torment, Brotato, Spell Brigade)

>>723885039
It's cool that they didn't give up on the game and keep adding shit to it but it's still not very fun.

>>723885519
Yeah this game is a nothingburger. I dropped it at the 3rd level because nothing was going on with the gameplay and story. Art is also passable but its not very interesting. Cant believe i had this reccomended by so many people and its at best a 4.

>>723885736
It's like if someone made the original Gothic but worse. Enemy placement is static but I could see DS/DeS/Slopkiro might have something going for them despite that, Outward is just the most batshit insane trash I've seen praised.

>>723885519
I remember playing this on hard difficulty and found it quite challenging, since I play metroidvanias oftenly I always pick hard mode if available.

Most puzzles are easy yes but some of them are a little difficult but nothing that locks you out of the game.

Not a big fan of the music and I liked the story and characters but they shat the bed on the final boss, I really disliked the ending, they could have done something better.

I don't know anon it's not a groundbreaking experience but it's a decent game with nice pixel art, I think you just don't like or it's not for you.

Half Life 2. I understand it's a classic, but its introduction of a "physics engine" to the modern audience have ruined game dev forever, now every game has to have "physics" even when they don't need to.

Vampire Survivors

>>723887497
What the fuck are you talking about? Physics is literally no longer a thing in most modern games because everything is a fucking static setpiece.

>>723884452
Fpbp. Me and my wife were so hyped for it and we both utterly despise it, while I watch people eat it up when BS1 and BS2 were infinitely better games in every way

>>723887595
Oh really? I don't really play a lot of modern games these days so I didn't notice the shift. I just assumed it became a tacked on feature to stuff made in unreal and Unity.

>>723887497
No, you're fucking retarded, most games don't even have physics now, let alone the kind HL2 was implementing

>>723887792
I don’t even remember the last time I saw an actual physics puzzle. The new Zeldas have a couple I think? They kind of just went away when people stopped being impressed by the tech.

>>723884452
its over

>>723885005
Trash Taste someone clearly never played it

>>723884353 (OP)
>be Dragon Ball FighterZ
>have an awful autocombo masher gameplay and piss-poor game balance
>have a terrible story mode that requires you to play three different times to unlock everything
>have a poor arcade mode that's preset and artificially makes it harder by decreasing your attack and defense stats as it goes on
>have a poor netcode on release
>have a completely garbage DLC model that tries selling you multiple variants of Goku and Vegeta for $6 a pop
>have your most representative player be a gay furry for years on end
>everyone still eats it up as slop and labels it the best DBZ game ever
>everyone goes full soi over Daimashit being announced for the game to give it another wind
The Budokai series was two decades ago, and it still hasn't been topped as a DB fighter and anime simulator, this game's propped up by a legion of standards-devoid fanboys that allow things like Xenoverse 2 to go on for a full decade after its release and still be horribly unoptimized and ugly-looking.

>>723888116
gameplay is shit, AI is shit, stealth is shit, combat is shit

Youre a contrarian if you like this game

>>723884353 (OP)
Barely any enemy variety, music is ok compared to system shock 1, half of the weapons sucks, half of your abilities suck, stupid fucking repair and maintain system, god awful ending and boss fight , even the first system shock at least had something unique, boring ass white and grey levels ,no cortex reavers, shodan is barely in it, xerxes was pointless, on its own its ok but compared to system shock 1 its total garbage

>>723885039
Pretty much, if they received even a quarter of the same hate as at launch maybe they would build on systems already in the game instead of adding yet another half baked mechanic they'll instantly abandon after the expedition about it ends

>>723888464
Your telling me you didn't like jumping as high as a building and going faster than light to blow up giant robots and aliens isn't fun? And its like Alex jones made a video game with crazy conspiracy theories , how can you not have fun

Oblivion

>>723888824
I’m more tempted to say the entire Bethesda catalog

Hated enough implies they already get hate so my personal answer is WoW.

>>723884353 (OP)
Starbound

>>723884353 (OP)
Elden goyslop. /v/ was unusable for a month because shills were spamming this empty open world piece of shit game and mods ignored the spam.

>>723884353 (OP)
Breath of the Wild and most of the switch pokemon games

>>723888824
>>723889023
>Newfaggots hating TES games
Go back

>>723889281
Good one

>>723889176
this game is so fucking boring. It's basically Dark Souls but AI generated

>>723889281
They’re all shit.
Even your precious Morrowind.
Even Daggerfall if you’re one of those kinds of autistic giga contrarians. Bethesturd is a pox on the rpg genre.

>>723884452
Literally the first thing that came to my mind as well

>>723884452
This. 2013 had one good game and it was MGR.

>>723889176
I wish they banned them to the general but the damage was already done. SOTE flopping was a good sign it was dogshit all along.
>>723889208
Ubishit Nintendo shows how much they have fallen since.

>>723889785
rayman legends

>>723889785
MGR is overrated Platinum pigslop that gets memed because it's "cuhrayyyyzeee!!!" and there's tons of shit flying on the screen. The game is horribly short, the gameplay's nothing unique or special for a hack-and-slash, and the game is such a departure from Metal Gear's story and feel it ain't even funny.

>>723884353 (OP)
what has been done to rainbow six siege genuinly makes my blood boil. the art direction is now non-existent, and I dont even mean the skins. Those are overblown by ragebaiters. The real issue is that none of the maps resemble buildings anymore and any semblence of goofy fun was replaced for the sake of competitiveness. Next to nothing after nokk and warden has been a good change. Cant have nice looking maps because "what if the player cant see the competitors?!?". Cant meme rush with recruit anymore because they had to give him a "balanced" gunset. Can't implement a fun community server browser because we want people addicted to our skinnerbox matchmaking where you only win 50% of the time, with rulesets we adjust as we see fit. Can't have cool operators because we felt like giving the new hires the oppurtunities to come up with character concepts. I dislike CS2, but it still has the same basic gameplay that I find fun. I wish they made a seperate fucking rainbow six for all this nolan sci fi bullshit theyve implemented so i can go back to what I enjoyed. Fuck ubisoft, and fuck the chinese for bailing them out. I wanted to see this company finally succumb to the wounds of shooting itself in the foot year after year so someone could buy up their IP's and make SOMETHING with the SLIGHTEST FUCKING AMOUNT OF THOUGHT.

and fuck any community that overbears on balance changes that affect everyone else. TF2 got ruined by this, I get that sometimes its needed like battlefield 1 and the current SMG18 domination but good fucking god. I'm tired of games that were fun 6 years ago suddenly not resembling themselves as shit like this piles up

>>723884353 (OP)
pathfinder wrath of the righteous. I've never played something so insultingly bad. Sure there are meme games like cow clicker games but you know that they are bad and so it's not an insult that they are indeed barebones and bad. But this is a game that "people" "like".

>>723886095
lmao faggot contrarian

>>723884353 (OP)
Bravely Default. It falls apart in the latter half.
>plot barely moves forward
>recycled bosses
>recycled dungeons

>>723884353 (OP)
Pokemon LGPE. BSDP being the worst pile of garbage the pokemon franchise ever shat out caused people to act way too positive about a Kanto remake that's worse than FRLG in almost every way.

>>723884353 (OP)
gunplay is worse than uncharted, survival horror mechanics are more dumbed down than almost any resident evil, the characters are poorly written and the world is boring compared to almost any other apocolaypse story. The game is constantly handholding so you pay attention to the boring plot. It feels like the first game that really solidified the boring triple A TPS. and people ate it up because it was one of the nicest looking games on the ps3.

Then again I love stalker and desert punk so it's likely the inner /k/ in me just found what it did with my favourite genre to be the most mundane thing from overexposure. If someones never even watched 28 days later and only seen the walking dead or some shit I guess I could see how this might feel "fresh"

still the fact this is held up as one of the greatest games of all time bothers the fuck out of me. the only thing it has going for it are clickers.

>>723889524
why?

>>723884353 (OP)
Vanquish. Everything except the boss fights fucking sucks and all the character action mechanics are married to boring cover shooting bullshit and limited by a meter system that makes melee useless and playing aggressive actively harmful. And the weapon system is retarded. Even back in the 2010's dark ages it was just a reminder of how much better Crysis and F.E.A.R. are, both shooters with a super-powered moveset that actually have systems worth engaging with.

>>723890503
Me and my brother got a solid 150+ hours out of it, but the more they updated the game the worse it was. For us personally, removing Recruit was the last straw, once that happened we stopped playing entirely.
Wasted potential

>>723890486
>someone unironically says slop followed by a completely retarded post
every time

>The Plucky Squire
This just makes me mad for how insultingly easy it is. I really hope more people ridicule the guy who did it (I forget his name), he deserves no respect
>Mario Bros Wonder
“forced soul” couldn’t be a better descriptor of the game. Looks pretty yet is one of the most bland games in nintendo’s catalog. No one talks about it but it should be remembered for “hey, nintendo can’t do good 2d mario games anymore
>Splatoon 3
Somehow they made just about everything worse compared to its predecessors but people give it a pass because the core gameplay is as fun as ever and was the only thing that got improved. The series should’ve just died on the WiiU as to not be subjected to what it is in its current state. Also reminder that despite selling over a million in its first weekend only about tens of thousands of people could even play the game because the online was that dogshit, and it took 3 months to become functional
>Pikmin 4
The casualization of the series ruined its original appeal. Either they don’t understand what made the game good or they’re just chasing normiebucks
>AC:NH
Same as above. It’s no longer animal crossing, it’s a dollhouse simulator

>>723892809
>Pikmin 4
btw they're releasing a new update which includes photo mode (worthless), a crossover with the mobileshit (worthless) and difficulty settings (easiest, easier and easy; a.k.a. worthless)

>>723884353 (OP)
Xenogears

>>723884673
So bad it's good type of shit
Honestly I didn't even think such thing would even be possible for a video game but here we are.

>>723888116
>took 9 years to sell 1 million copies
Nobody played it, obviously.

>>723893417
Who is to blame for the current state of Pikmin? Shiggy?
I long since accepted we aren’t getting a good game ever again but man I really don’t like seeing it like this. If that short with the babby is setting the tone for the next mainline entry, yikes.

>>723894031
If we counted sales as quality pokemonslop and fortnite would be considered better than all of your favorite games but we both know that's not the truth

>>723894193
People that are unable to think and press a single button at once and Nintendo only caring about making as much money as possible with no regards to quality or quantity.
I would rather have had the series permanently die then to have gotten this piece of literal dogshit, and it's only going to get worse.

>>723884353 (OP)
Just Gacha in general.

inside every souls like is a watered down version of monster hunter that's about as difficult as Kirby so people make up constant dumb challenges to make it actually hard

>>723885005
fact
Utterly insane how people could criticize moviegames but praise deus ex this or MGS

>>723894678
monster hunter is a watered down version of monster hunter
I don’t know why anyone puts these games on a pedestal when the popular ones are the ones that had all the actually interesting mechanics removed

>>723884353 (OP)
Nier Automata. Gas all jarpig shitters. This is not an action game

>>723885669
I actually disagree anon. A game can be a bizarre sequel that strays from the original vision and should’ve been its own franchise, but still be good as a videogame.
I agree with people that Skyrim is a big downgrade if it’s trying to live up to Morrowind but if it was its own brand new IP people would be a lot nicer to it. So I would say it’s still a decent videogame even if it has a different vision from the predecessor.
>ex: Skyrimlike Tainted Grail
>everything after Jak and Daxter 1

>>723895243
I wouldn’t really call it a jarpig either.
Never really bought into the hype for either of the Nier games. Nobody would care about auto tomato if not for 2B’s dumptruck ass.

>>723884795
>Those 2 should be put in actual fucking textbooks for the few retards actually studying game design in school on what NOT to do when making video games.
Harvey Smith and Warren Spector ended up going to my university in 2008 and they actually did a breakdown of it, literally doing exactly what you're describing.

>the game that not only killed all of DX's momentum, forcing any other installment to be a reboot.
>the game that defined "dumbed down for consoles"
>be such a piece of shit that even warren spector and harvey smith call it shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTWvsGA77T4

I'm still mad about this piece of shit even today, Oblivion also deserves to be on this list. Fuck all three of those faggot games.

>>723894678
I love this thread. Truthnukes all around

>dark souls
-build variety boils down to long distance or physical damage
-you can grind and overlevel to erase all challenge
-spacing and positioning barely matters in combat (funny how people criticized sekiro for being a rhythm game when souls plays almost the exact same)

>monster hunter (before world)
-build variety affects how you engage in the game during and outside combat (positioning to target monster weak parts, having to collect specific resources for ammo)
-requires actual action game fundamentals (spacing, respecting the opponents) to be mastered
-stats aren't just a damage number game, some monsters require specific equipment/skills to reduce or outright negate the troublesome aspects of their fights (earplugs, tremor res, elemental resistance etc.)
-you can still choose to unga bunga time attack DPS instead but it's reliant on you being a good player and learning the fights (i-framing tremors/screams)

The only areas where dark souls wins over MH are the sense of exploration and atmosphere. But metroidvanias are better games for that

>>723884353 (OP)
Undertale. There's no reason why it should've been received so positively at a time when the ghoulish tendency called "social justice" (which now call "wokeness;" known medically as oikophobia) was more visible to the public than ever before.

Breath of the Wild filling in the dirt for the grave Skyword Sword dug.

Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong Bananza

>>723896186
Because that’s a retarded reason to hate it and /v/ recognized the game was actually good you faggot

>>723884353 (OP)
Battlefield 6

More like
BattleLane 6

>>723896186
Because under the troon shit there was a good game, like celeste

Stupid fucking thread. Go play some video games. Preferably ones that you like. This board is full of rage-seeking mongloids. Imagine spending hours seething about a product that you can literally ignore...

>>723896279
>>723896315
>the game was actually good
I've yet to see anyone cite a source on this.

These games aren't very good at all. Not even baiting, they are flamboyantly mediocre

>>723896573
I agree. In general GBA standards are incredibly low, people do not ever go back and replay these games so they exist in childhood memories only.

>make the game a worse experience because it's made for mobile and ported to consoles
>mobile can't even play it anymore (iphone version completely delisted because purchases were bugged and never fixed)

>>723896209
Galaxy was peak, you’re retarded
Bananza should get hate for the DLC but not much else

>>723896573
I agree, buy buy yourself a dictionary and thesaurus, anon.

>>723896443
Did you play it? That's the only source you need.

>>723884353 (OP)
Megaman Zero series.

>>723884707
This game fucking sucks I don't know how it ended up being so popular

>>723897114
If the comparison is to Trooneste, I'm going to file the experience as "not worth the time."

>>723897374
You think about dicks a lot, anon.

>>723897374
your time seems valuable.

Halo sucks. The first game literally feels like taking the worst aspects of every FPS game up to that point and combining it all together into one package.

>>723884353 (OP)
Battlefield V really does not get enough hate for all the changes they made to the core gameplay. Shit like limited ammo, the disastrous TTK changes, and strange recoil system are a few of the examples that made the game just plain unfun.
Of course its easy to hate the reveal and subsequent meltdown of the devs and rightfully so, but i dont see enough people trash the game itself.

>>723897179
Reddit and 9gag hyped it up as the best game of all time

>>723888372
Sped

>>723889897
Interesting idea of a flop

>>723896916
I never liked the way Galaxy plays. I know Sunshine deservedly gets shit for being really tedious to 100% but I like the level design and movement mechanics way more, Galaxy felt like a step down.

>>723885519
>Iconoclasts
>not destroying icons

>>723896573
Applies for a lot of snes/gba jrpgs. The worst genre in gaming

>>723897448
No, that's just you.

>>723884353 (OP)
PSO2 New Genesis by Sega

>>723896896
People have a tendency to get really overzealous about handheld games and I’m not sure why.

>>723898151
Playing Sekiro right now and didn't start thinking about trannies until you brought them up. You're gay as hell, man.

>>723898296
>until you brought them up
>>723896315 brought up Celeste first, not me.

>>723898236
Most players already quit during base PSO2 for one reason or another, whether JP or Global. Sega falling even lower with NGS should have been expected.

>>723898296
NTA, but you come off as a total faggot, not him. This is why everyone hates Undertale fans.

>>723889176

I like Elden Ring, but SOTE and Nightreign are both trash that deserve more hate than they get. Both were clearly made for no purpose other than to fleece the mindless goy who will buy anything with "Elden Ring" on it.

Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon

Beyond Two Souls is pictured, but any Quantic Dream game applies. The writing is genuinely atrocious. I can't believe people even passingly recommend this shit for anything other comedy value

>>723891701
Slop is the new buzzword for spergs to get obsessed over. They still think it's powerful and makes everyone "seethe".

>>723898819
it sure has you seething

>>723898819
It does, cuckboy.

>>723898591
I never played Undertale a day in my life. You guys just come off as unironic faggots with what you occupy your time and mental real estate with. You can think that of me because you're probably in the same camp as him.

>>723898819
Yeah you can tell based on the replies the type of "person" that uses the word. I have never seen a well thought out post or criticism that wasn't exaggerated after someone describes something as slop.

>>723899237
OK troon.

>>723899304
I can tell by how hard it makes you seethe that you don’t pass.

>>723884353 (OP)
risk of rain 2

>>723899304
/v/ is 25% as intelligent compared to 15 years ago. The jeets and bugs flooded in and then the low iq oldfags and low iq tourists thought that was the "culture." That's why I can't take negative feedback from /v/ seriously anymore--it's a bunch of retards parroting retards.

it will never be enough

>>723899237
>You guys just come off as unironic faggots with what you occupy your time and mental real estate with
The thread is about under-hated games. I gave Undertale as my example (same goes for its tee-hee-is-it-or-ain't-it sequel, by the way) and gave my reason.
>I never played Undertale a day in my life
Then take Robert Fox's autogynephilic dick out of your mouth.
>n-no, he's not trans, h-he only dresses up like a woman sometimes!
Right. "Femboy," a mild variant of autogynephilia.

>>723888482
Yeah for something hailed as the best of its genre its severely underwhelming

>>723884353 (OP)
Sonic 06.
The fact that there's a zoomer campaign to pretend it was some misunderstood masterpiece that only got hated because some Youtubers made fun of it years after its release is proof that we have failed as a species.

>>723899696
I had never heard the word "autogynephilic" before you said it. Obsessed.

>thread is supposed to be for bad games
>half of it is just newfags baiting with good games for (You)s
God this board is fucking dead.

>>723899840
Mad as hell.

>>723899972
maybe you just have bad taste in video games

>>723884353 (OP)
bioshock infini-
>>723884452
first post best post

>>723899972
Good and bad are subjective, anon

>>723899936
>I had never heard the word "autogynephilic" before
Of course you wouldn't have, your circle doesn't allow anything but affirmation for even the most self-destructive tendencies.
>Obsessed
Get out of every sphere of culture, stop trying to force me to accept you, and maybe my natural, human sense of disgust and anger will subside.
>b-but I'm not---
If you defend (or "Spare," if you will) monsters, you may as well be one.

>>723894310
I'm not talking about quality. The statement was about someone not playing Deus Ex, and the evidence shows that very few people did. But you're such a defensive loser that you need your failed FPS to be liked.

>>723900282
You're in this thread in the middle of a wedneday morning seething about troons because somebody mentioned a tranny game that you can literally ignore and you're not obsessed?

>>723884353 (OP)
this is still the worst example of overwatch and its consequences on the industry back when it released.

>>723900254
Then eat my shit

>>723900254
Be honest--a lot of these replies are bait seething because X game was popular.

Gacha.
>inb4 but they are hated!
Nowhere near enough. The amount of attention, money, and overall damage they cause is truly, deeply, not appreciated enough.

>>723900524
>somebody mentioned a tranny game
As a counterpoint (>>723896315) to my initial post (>>723896186).
>that you can literally ignore
How much Tylenol did Mommy take during those nine months, exactly?

>>723890959
the multiplayer in TLOU was actually quite amazing

>>723884353 (OP)
>dogshit singleplayer until OE
>mpu
>DOGSHIT meta
>mpu
>anti-fun specials
>mpu
>missing entire classes and weapons from the first game at launch
>main power up
i don't understand how anyone still prefers this piece of shit over 3, it's horrible

>>723900786
Oh, so you started off seething about men who dress like women and chop their dicks off. I had though someone else mentioned them first, but you started off in this thread seeting about trannies. Like I said: obsessed.

Why waste energy on hating something instead of enjoying something else?

TLOU Part 2
Absolutely horrific story

>mention any transcore game in a negative light
>they come crawling out of the woodwork to have a total meltdown
every single time

>>723900960
Where in my initial post were troons specifically mentioned? Or is it because they're protected under the wide umbrella of social "justice" and Robert Fox is certainly one of them?

>>723900447
The chud success talker vs the chad soul discusser , get raped nigga

>>723898790
that's the thing, I only play David's games for comedic value

>Let's make the game entirely silent because the protagonist is deaf
>Let's have most of the cutscenes consist of people talking
>Which you can't hear
>Let's also have the story primarily conveyed by dialogue
>Which you can't hear
Whoever thought this was a good idea needs a fucking frontal lobotomy.

>>723899840
u mad lol

>>723897179
Babies first Ubislop unironically. Then again ubishit coppied the witcher 3 but made it even worse. Also had le stong womyn as main characters before that shit got nauseating and was shilled 24/7 2 years prior the release. People shit on skyrim for being a normalfag game, but witcher 3 might have been the normalfaggiest open world game on par with GTA5

>>723898236
>they made base pso2 look like complete shit before releasing ngs
fucking why

Deltarune. To be frank here: I do not want to see people hating it, but it sure feels like no one is really criticizing it or Toby Fox.

>>723884353 (OP)
mirrors edge
super mario world
kirbys dreamland 3
kirbys adventure
tomb raider 2013

99% of what modern /v/ praises is liquid shit the /v/ of old would've given you 30 replies with laughing anime girls in them mocking you for praising it.

>>723885115
The core platforming is pretty good, but I dislike how slippery things are.
A lot of the environment art is also really questionable. What the fuck are these places supposed to be?

>>723901127
They may be the only game where I have no interest in it, but I watched a full playthrough of it. And it was quite a ride. I still genuinely don't get the appeal, how it's apparently a very popular franchise? How. Weird shit.

>>723901208
Any time social justice is mentioned on /v/, it's about trannies. Stop acting like this board has nuanced and layered discussion. You can literally make a Monkey Island-like based around responding and baiting responses on /v/. You were talking about trannies--just because you didn't use the word doesn't mean that you weren't doing so. Or is Undertale suddenly niggercore now and I misinterpreted your initial post?

>>723899972
>expecting anything better from this hellhole
I tried to make a thread about spooky ass games for Halloween the other day and the single reply I got was someone screaming that Halloween is a leftist psyop because playing dress up is for trannies.

>>723901626
he was completely right

>>723901389
Yeah--Arc Raiders is going to be called shit in a month or so, but /v/ is gobbling it up right now. And there are dozens of posters who will defend gacha to death just because it has shiny graphics and big titty anime girls. Bunch of chimps.

>>723901510
>Or is it because they're protected under the wide umbrella of social "justice" and Robert Fox is certainly one of them?
I'll take your latest post as a "yes" to the above.

>>723885519
I've never played it and assumed it was ok. Reasons:
It has a good memorable title
The art looks ok

>>723892809
You’re utterly retarded for buying the “forced soul” shit or thinking Splatoon 3 is in any way worse than 2

>>723901626
That's a damn shame.

>>723889023
I'm still mad...
but on the bright side it made me realize I shouldn't buy into games based on how good they could eventually be
I don't think it was their intent to lie and scam people, they just overpromised like fuck and didn't have the experience to deliver.

>>723901626
This place is a shithole but at least its not tiktok or instagram, its like a nuclear bunker from the internet apocalypse with slight radiation rather than the full dose, plus i can call people names on here which you cant do anymore anywhere else

>>723900960
If you've been lurking enough you'd notice they post the same shit 18 hours a day.
>inb4 /v/ is one person
No, but he is, probably homeless posting from starbucks wifi. Real Abatap energy.

>>723885519
I could not bring to hate it because it's such a fascinating game for all the wrong reasons. I don't mean the gameplay, on that front it's fun but nothing special. It's the tonal mess of a story.

>>723900527
>GW2 is probably the best example of a perfect sequel (more of the same, but expanded/improved on)
>BfN is is the best example of the worst kind of sequel (change for the sake of change)

>>723885519
Let's go a step further
None of their games are good

>>723885736
Outward is fun for the exploration and RP element of going on an expedition with supplies. By no means is it hard or really meant to be. It certainly lacks in combat depth due to how simple the enemy ai and movesets are. It also lacks replay value because of almost everything being static. Sure you have 4 different main story quests to play through, but once you've explored an optional dungeon or corner of the map, there's no incentive to go back there on another playthrough unless it has a unique item you want/need for your build. It also lacks side quests, which are also static. I still think it's an overall decent game, but it's not worth it if it's not on sale. A solid 6/10 adventure sandbox.

>>723901930
>probably homeless posting from starbucks wifi
No and no.

>no matter what weight class you pick, everyone bounces around like they're tied to balloons and drifts are super slippery
>a lot of the specials are just standard items split between the roster
>many of the tracks are extremely basic and bland, ones like Daisy Cruiser and Wario Coliseum are exceptions
>everything looks like plastic

>>723901876
>and didn't have the experience to deliver
Considering the entire studio was made by one disgruntled ex-Re-Logic employee that decided to make his own Terraria with blackjack (a terrible story) and hookers (abysmal combat) with the power of a dead dog and a bunch of unpaid interns, that's a fucking understatement.
Tiyuri was literally just a sprite artist without any knowledge or ability to make an actual good game, his only intent was to create his own Terraria and failed miserably. As for scamming people, that was definitely in his intent to do, it just didn't stop at scamming his employees, unfortunately.

>>723902109
I'm still shocked garden warfare was good at all.

>>723885039
This.
The only reason I play this (and other shitty games of similar nature) is because I like base building slop.
Everything in this game is shallow as fuck, including the building but you can still make some cool stuff thanks to mods and external save editors.
I genuinely have no idea how can anyone play this for the actual "gameplay" and I'm surprised seeing people apparently exciting about another shallow update.
I returned recently because the new ship building is fucking great (again thanks to external tools), just wish I had any reason to do anything with the ships I build.

And above all else I'm surprised people are saying the game got good, I mean yeah it's better than abysmal launch but it's still simply a shit game where the best part is acting as a desktop wallpaper generator.
That said, I really really fucking hope their next game has some actual gameplay in it.

>>723896186
>oikophobia
ah it's this fag

>>723903427
glass houses, deltatroon

RDR2

>>723898790
Detroit is Cage's worst game in terms of story and it's not even close, but it's the best for the comedic value. Partly because of the story itself, but mostly because 99% of the game is set in the past so you can fuck up every single QTE and it barely matters, unlike the other games where you have to carefully dose how many fails you do so the game doesn't end the whole scene or kill the character too early

>>723901626
>and the single reply I got was someone screaming that Halloween is a leftist psyop because playing dress up is for trannies.
What a lack of good company does to a motherfucker

>>723889023
Once I modded the shit out of it it actually became one of my favorites.
Wouldn’t touch vanilla with a 10ft pole though.

>>723893417
one of the modes is harder than the base game dumbfuck

>>723904157
You didn't understand what easiest, easier and easy meant, retard

Not one game in particular but writing across the board has been utter trash and its barely talked about. Studios are obviously using the writing position as a place to cut costs and implant DEI hires and it shows.

The game itself is good, but it has had disastrous effects on 2D platforming. Everything is spike spam that teleports you back to where you last stood. Meat Boy is probably the progenitor to this, but it feels like the issue has become much worse since Celeste

>>723884353 (OP)
A game that promised a good cyberpunk game the first hours only to end up being pure yuribait.

>>723901310
not only that but they straight up abandoned pso2 and shut off several live service elements from it.

>>723904384
>update
>referring to base game difficulty as “easier”
Not my fault you communicate with the efficacy of a fucking chimp

>>723903427
Yes, I'm the anon who points out things that have had mile-thick walls of euphemistic language---like "woke," or "social justice"--- built around them.

>>723884353 (OP)
TLOU 1 & 2
Life Is Strange

Destiny 2 gets a lot of hate and it still isn't enough

>>723884353 (OP)
Fortnite.
It is a derivative piece of shit that has done nothing but set bad examples for the industry and all the money it's accrued with these shitty business practices and gutless plagiarizing design decisions went to trying to disrupt it even worse. It has had 0 positive impact.

>>723904612
And what, call base game difficulty "NORMAL"? This shit game is so fucking braindead easy that the "harder" difficulty is still complete and utter baby shit that calling it anything more than easy is purely wrong.

>>723898790
>implying pic related is anything but pure kino

>>723904943
There are a myriad of ways you could have properly phrased your assumption that the new mode would still be too easy, but apparently you’re incapable of such in your impotent seething

this piece of shit had only two good things in it
1. water shaders
2. nice sky
everything else was Todd-slop tier, but retards fell for it

>>723889176
This

>>723904505
the real progenitor is rom hack autism
no one can make normal, fair tricky but challenging platforming games anymore. Everything has to be some retarded dash wall jump memorization slop.

>>723904531
Funny, this cyberpunk game that was obviously yuribait turned out to actually be fun.

>there are still people on this website who will ardently defend the beginning of FF’s demise
Never fails to get a (You) out of me. Anyone who tries to claim that FFXII is anything more than one of the most boring game ever made should get sent to a labor camp.

>>723889176
>anon didn’t get to play ER and was butthurt about everyone ignoring his shitposts
Kek

Literally EVERYONE was playing it. I was training students at work at the time and even *they* were playing it. You really don’t understand how shilling works.

>>723899652
I swear to god 2010 to 2016 I'm convinced everybody at Nintendo were replaced by skinwalker doubles or some shit because how the hell else do you fumble and fuck up so many times in a row.
>Pic related and Color Splash
>Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
>Skyward Sword
>Fire Emblem Fates
>Chibi-Robo Ziplash
>Amiibo Festival
>Star Fox Zero
>Wii U in general

>UH YEAH THIS GAME IS SHIT
>[most milquetoast contrarian game they can think of]
>heh, look at how edgy and against the grain I am, anons must think i look so cool

>>723884353 (OP)
sportslop

>>723905889
i'd argue color splash was good despite following sticker star's formula. at least, i had a good experience with it, unlike sticker star which just feels like a chore instead of a game.

>>723905916
Post 10 examples

>>723905889
Fates had great gameplay systems though. Its problems were expected growing pains from transitioning the franchise into waifubait shit

>>723884972
Gr8 b8 m8 8/8

>>723888372
>dragon ball fighting game
>no transformation installs
>regular ass base form goku is paid dlc

>>723885005
>T.brainlet

>>723906760
Frieza has an install and DESU fighterZ blows every recent fighting game out of the water except for maybe Strive

>>723906851
oh yeah Freezerino got the Golden form, but weird how he's the only char right, big missed oportunity

i rlly like fighterz but man i just don't like some choices they made

>>723888372
I was so hyped for this shit then I found out it is an autocombo retardation + 3v3. Ffs, I just wanted a technical 1v1 game with DB characters.

>>723889176
i dont hate elden ring for what it is but I hate it for the influence it has over gamers which may turn more games to shit in the next decade trying to capitalize on it

>>723885519
I not THAT bad, the genre just has very high standards, not every game needs to meet those standards.

>>723906851
>Frieza
It's FREEZER you faggot. Freezer. Like his father King Cold, and his brother Cooler.
Otherwise be consistent and call him Coola.

>>723907358
i just say Freeza desu

>>723890959
Days Gone was a better game.

You guys do not understand how bad Warcraft: Reforged was. The original was great game on it's own right, but it also had 20 years of custom content and mods which were destroyed by the demake.
To make the scale of destruction easier to understand, it would be like if Valve gave a free update to all Source games which bugged guns so badly they couldn't be fired and deleted all previous UGC from all their games including your beloved skibidi toilet, all with a shit new art style.

>>723899516
This is the only game in this entire thread I have to stand up for, you’re wrong and dumb. RoR2 was genuinely beautiful, pleasant, immersive, and tons of fun to play. Got hundreds of hours out of that game, not to mention great laughs with friends. If you don’t like it, that’s your fault.

Everyone else ITT has a point except you.

Maybe not the proper thread but now that I've played both this game just feels like a worse Tactics Ogre.
I'm retroactively annoyed at all the shilling I've seen for this game.

>>723885519
I love this game. The wrench was rad.

>>723906358
The best part is when the Navi clone gets mad at you for playing it "wrong." In later games Tanabe just made playing it in any way he didn't imagine impossible. In Origami King you cannot even really run away from battles because he hated people doing that in the other two

>>723896573
Is that a reason to hate something? For being just okay?

>>723907673
Literally everyone hated that game. It’s not even remotely close to being considered “underhated”.

>>723884353 (OP)
pokemon legends arceus. how anyone can like that piece of shit game is beyond me, must be the extreme casuals who just want to mindlessly huck orbs at critters for hours at a time

>>723905540
This is easily my favorite mainline FF next to maybe 4.

>>723908159
>One of the most hated games of all time wasn't hated enough
Yes

>>723905916
and yet it got you to reply and give me a dopamine hit dipshit

>>723908238
>complaining about hucking orbs at critters in a pokemon game
Are you serious

>>723907837
Fans of this game have made every discussion about any other game in the genre absolutely insufferable with their need to insert themselves into the conversation to decry how any deviation from what FFT did is a mistake and that its the only one worth playing

>>723908902
yeah man I'm playing pokemon to battle creatures, not to stand around in ugly environments playing a bad third person shooter where all you do is throw balls at monster's asses

>>723908238
I think the systems were an improvement to past pokemon ctaching mechanics, but I agree that the lack of battles sucked. Made it all feel kind of pointless

>>723903558
This

>>723884353 (OP)
Bioshock Infinite

>>723884452
Wait a minute… this post

>>723903952
Either that or baiting. I wish people would be genuinely angry instead of fake angry. Or just have fun.

>>723905149
nta but I think you're too autistic for this website and that's saying something

>>723908902
What piece of Pokemon media ever gave you the impression that the only way to capture fuckers is throwing Pokeballs by the dozens at them

>>723896315
The gameplay is the worst fucking part about Undertale.

Trails in the sky FC/SC.

The definition of a game that requires a high investment with a low return. Both games together are like 100 hours and the story is the most basic anime shit ever. The combat also isn't very good. You'd think it'd improve in the second game because you can change three party members instead of two but they stick you back with Joshua (who is a busted Mary Sue) at the end.

>>723910384
The sperg getting upset because he can’t think through the meaning of his seethe posts makes me too autistic? ok lol

>>723908339
I don’t find this to be very surprising as people who claim to like XII are intellectually arrogant hipsters at best and lying at worst.

>>723884353 (OP)
ANY FUCKING GACHA OR PAY TO COSMETIC GAME

>WO(WHATEVER)
>CROSSOUT
>WAR THUNDER
>HALO INFINITE, seriously armor customization is a spiritual practice and those kikes made it payed
>GENSHIN
>TANKI ONLINE (remember that game?)
>FORTNITE
>RAINBOW 6
>CSGO
>WARFRAME
>THE MOUNTIAN OF GATCHA BASED MOBILE GAMES
>ANYTHING I FORGOT TO MENTION
BECAUSE I PAY MONEY SO I CAN PLAY GAMES, I DO NOT PLAY GAMES SO I CAN PAY MONEY
TAKE CARE OF THE CUSTOMER AND THEY PAY YOU, NOT EXTORT AND ABUSE THE CUSTOMER TO GET THEIR MONEY

>>723910693
You were getting upset because of how he labeled difficulties

>>723900681
MY FUCKIN MAN

>>723910878
I told him he was an idiot because he either believed or mistakenly implied they only added easier modes, when they added and eays mode and a hard one. You and he are the ones making this more than it was

>>723910512
absolutely, its also the same year Fran Bow came out which is a million times better than anything Undertale related , the music definitely made it more popular than it should have been

>>723911675
>Fran Bow
Nobody ever talks about this and it's one of my favorite recent(ish) point and clicks, period.

>was on an fps kick a few months ago
>played a bunch of the classics
>played a bunch of the modern boomershooters
>eventually got down to slop games from bundles
>had this from one
>played through it
>was legitimately one of the most dogshit games I've ever played
>not a single redeeming factor

>>723910787
Yeah yeah.

>>723884452
There's daily seethe threads for over 10 years now.

>>723911828
Its a shame i only knew it by randomly browsing steam, its definitely something more people should play, its almost like actual artistic games get ignored and fake and gay games like Undertale attract all the attention

>>723901472
The camera is also fucking dogshit and it's the reason you'll die 100% of the time

>>723912303
Fran Bow doesn't have a million quirky chungus characters for faggots to latch onto and spend years fantasizing about them having sex with each other.

>>723911105
You're right

>>723912398
real

>>723884452
Honestly, this, the 2 weapon limit was absolutly a fucking retarded design choice, plasmids felt lame as fuck too..and the dumbass
>MUH MULTIVERSE THEORY
Based story was lazy and tired even before the MCU started to use it as their go to plot device

>>723896301
I don't know sharty lore, who is nate?

>>723884353 (OP)
Mario 3. The majority of the levels are obnoxious bullshit. I don’t care if World is too easy, at least it’s fun.

>>723884353 (OP)
It's not enough that people rag on the ending, this entire game should be ridiculed.

this game is worse than 06 and I will die on that hill

>>723913672
>is optimized to work at a stable 60
>no automated running sections or water sliding sections
>loading screens take a lot less time, on any version
In terms of combat, it's almost as bad, but as far as being a game (working properly) and the general level design, you're full of shit.

>>723913672
>this game is worse than 0-
Shut the fuck up NIGGER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V1pMQKDPco

>>723896916
I like Galaxy but Mario feels sluggish compared to the other 3d games

Steal Princess
>Platformer puzzle game
>Absolutely dogshit control scheme
>Can break the puzzle, so game asks you to restart it
>Obtaining gold in any stage requires you world record AI perfect path finding levels of autism where less than half of a second absolutely matters
>Some of the puzzles can take more than half an hour to do, and if you fuck up at any given point you might have to start over.
>On top of that, the games looks as bad as Disgaea DS, but worse.
This game is designed to torture you.

>>723914026
>(working properly)
That's all you get. Combat, level design, objectives, all worse in Shadow plus worse movement and writing.

>>723914062
Yes it has a great intro and music.

>>723889281
bethesda games are the most reddit games in existence, kys

>>723914497
How does 06 have better level design, movement OR combat? You literally do the same mashing homing attack on health bars in Shadow's campaign of 06, you literally get vehicles again, without having Chaos Control to bypass bullshit.
The movement in either aren't the best, but you're at least allowed to go fast in Shadow, 06 on any of the three, feel like trash.
>objectives
You did not play 06.

>>723912232
And somehow we're still the only ones that see the game as a farce despite the fact that the world at large just apes 4chans opinion on everything

>>723914728
>How does 06 have better level design, movement OR combat?
With relative ease.

Yes I'm aware 06 doesn't have "objectives" like Shadow, that's part of why it's not as bad.

>>723914815
It does though-
>destroy lights and hit switches as Rouge, with worse controls than SA2
>play as Omega, and just break the game
>pilot a glider/SUV and catch up with Eggman, with the slowest vehicles on the 360
>the entire fucking Mephiles fight
If you had either version of shadow, side by side, go straight for a minute, I guarantee 05 Shadow clears 06 Shadow. I didn't even get into the bullshit Sonic or Silver make you do.

>>723915000
>I guarantee
Nope! I own both games on disc. Want me to pull 'em out?

>>723915000
>I didn't even get into the bullshit Sonic or Silver make you do.
now i KNOW you haven't played 06
both of them, especially sonic, just require you to get the fucking end of the level, point a to point b

>>723915145
Yeah, pull out the discs, and tell me which rolls the furthest.

>>723915180
>You don't play as Tails/Knuckles, Amy, hit switches, play fucking psychic pool (without glitching through terrain), have a gimped moveset with Elise in your arms, shit snowboarding sections, mach speed section that control like shit, NPC side-job autism, etc
You're being disingenuous.

>>723886095
DD and EDF are great games, tho.

>>723890503
its funny to me that siege became totally tuned for esports when its inherently the most unwatchable of all the major tac fps games. And they pump insane amounts into the prize pools lmao, they simply dont get it

>>723884353 (OP)
Hate is often from love. You either believe that the game can be great, or you derive joy from your derision towards it. The greatest punishment to a game that you despise is to forget it.

That said, I wish we hated on Fallout 4 more

>>723900842
1 is the only good Splatoon game

>>723915541
My hate towards people praising dogshit is because it lowers the standards of what is acceptable and is the reason why so much stuff has been in decline.
>uh dude its fine its not that big of a deal

>>723915541
I hate walking sims, you're better off just making an animation on youtube. Also, fuck visual novels, read a book nigga.

>>723915191
you got it toots
https://files.catbox.moe/831eq4.mp4

>>723915336
you're the one being disingenuous
yes the town missions are shit but at least they're short, and the parts where you switch characters are still in their own section going from point a to point b
and regardless of how shit some of the playstyle controls are, you're still progressing
meanwhile multiple shadow missions require to find and kill every single enemy in the level that can take over 15 fucking minutes especially if you missed one in a fucking random ass corner

>>723915790
>no tape measurer or stopwatch used
Bad study. 10/100 see me after class

>>723912316
It's true. I'm a bit more forgiving of that though because they really had no idea how that was supposed to work.

>>723890959
Uncharted 2 is the reason modern Sony games are over-the-shoulder third person action games, Norse GOW suffered the worst from this.

>>723915790
NO FUYCKING WAY
I'M KNEELING?
MY KNEES?
THEY KNEEL?!?!

Dead by Daylight. Its not like it isnt hated, but it should be loathed and despised.
I hope the developers die for making such a scummy, soulless, crappy, manipulative game

>>723915670
Literally if you don't like it don't buy it. You're never going to be able to stop retarded people doing retarded things, it's a waste of energy.

>>723915995
>you cant stop me being retarded!
I wish your mother had swallowed.

>>723913664
Yeah I dont understand the defenders of this game. The cases range from forgettable to terrib;e besides 4 & 5. Even if you liked the 3-1 twist its retroactively ruined by 3-6 (the worst case in the series besides 2-2, where everything is just info dumped instead of solving anything). And we dont even need to discuss half of the cast being dogshit

>>723915790
>no contest voicemogged by an obese 4channer
it is so unbelievably over for me

>>723916153
>the worst case in the series besides 2-2
wait I meant 2-3

>>723915881
>They're 'short'
Okay, one, nothing is SHORT in this fucking loading screen with a game in it. Two, you do missions for nearly every act you've cleared, sometimes it's more than one. Three, the controls for both are on the slower side compared to Adventure era games, or even Heroes. The main point of contention is 05 play worse than 06, which I find an issue with. Both start-up and on-going speeds are fucking slow in 06, for both Sonic and Shadow. I'd say levels are shorter in Shadow than in 06 overall, and with how Chaos Control allows you to skip nearly 1/5th of a level, can make speeding up to a preferred route do-able.

Control-wise, the vehicles are worse. Which 06 has a good amount of. 05 has a reliance on guns, which aren't fun to use which I can concede on. But the also speed up fighting enemies with HP bars, which 06 just has you mashing the melee homing attack with anyhow.

100%ing 06, start to finish, is straight forward on paper, but demands you meander just as fucking much (if not more). So things LIKE, long loading screens, stacks on the amount of side-quests/jobs, the amount of gameplay deviations from the main trio with cameo characters, forces completely different and oftren shittier gameplay styles.
The tedium provided with waiting in 06, pales in killing every Black Doom grunt of GUN soldier, something that usually takes less effort, BECAUSE LEVELS ARE SMALLER.

>>723916397
*But they also speed up-

>>723884353 (OP)
Counter-Strike
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Counter-Strike 2
Five Nights at Freddy's: Pizzeria Simulator
Mirror's Edge Catalyst
Quake 3
Sonic Generations
Sonic Colors
Skyrim
GTA V
Battlefield V
Portal 2
Half-Life: Alyx
Watch Dogs 2
Quake Champions
Overwatch

>>723913672
The game can be fun. I would like it if you didn't need to start from the beginning every time you wanted to get a new ending. It would make the missions more tolerable if you only had to do them once. There is also an expert mode which just has you reaching the finish without any missions. Problem with it is that you need to have already beaten the game to unlock it.

>>723915561
False. OE and 3ms singleplayer are much better, Salmon Run is great, Side Order was really solid and 1 was fun in a degenerate way that only is overlooked for its faults because of the novelty. Still fun, but a double edged sword of bullshit

How dare they release such slop. How dare they.

Diablo 2 was peak and Diablo 1 was pure sovl.

No skill options, no variety, nothing. I've never played a Blizzard game since and I never will.

>>723884353 (OP)
Why spend emotional energy on hating games?
A game is bad? O well dont play it.
You are not a kid in 1995 where you were stuck with one or two extremely expensive nintendo snes cartridges and you HAD to like those two single game you had. Now you have piracy, steam, itch.io, gog. Thousands of single player game hours to play, not to count the unlimited time you can spend on online games.

Get your head out of your ass and go play or discuss some games you like.

>>723917015
no

>>723916397
NTA but Shadow's own game is extremely slippery and constantly has you running into obstacles. He's way easier to control in 06.

>>723884353 (OP)
>Diablo 3
How much shit it stirred when it came out as a boring, buggy, always online mess has been completely memory holed. But that always happens with Blizzard
I blame it for being the catalyst for the modern GAAS infestation

>>723884353 (OP)
Benson was right about everything and I realize that now that I'm grown

>>723884452
fpbp

>>723915336
>>723916397
Call me crazy but I'll take five minutes of agony over twenty. Fucking hate those find-all-the-enemies missions.

>>723901705
wtf squid kid was in this game? I don’t even remember that

>>723884452
I'm still angry. It was a great game for the first hour or so, then every single aspect had fallen apart by the end.
>>723889928
my nigga

Most people on /v/ rightfully consider it the inferior factory game but many outside consider it equal to Satisfactory, DSP or COI.
This is a fucking factory game where building a factory is so mindless, clunky and slow that it caused me physical pain.
Even when you consider the other elements of the game they are disappointing individually.
Dialogue is shit, combat is shit, exploration is shit, progression is shit, blueprints are shit. After the novelty of seeing a factory in 3d wears off, I genuinely believe this game has nothing going for it. Satisfactory hate needs to become mainstream

>>723900527
>>723902109
BfN was probably only made because they couldn't get GW2 to run on the Switch and didn't want to bring GW1 back for some reason, they probably could do it now, but not only have they burnt that bridge already with BfN, Popcap Vancouver, the team behind all the PvZ shooters, doesn't exist anymore.

>>723913260
The terrible story would be excused if the gameplay wasn't boring as shit due to the two weapon limit. Sucks that no one was able to mod it out.

>>723884795
Invisible War is incredibly hated

>>723919614
based
Not to mention its 1.0 release added fucking nothing to the game. 6 years of early access to have orbs say random words so your reddit ai companion can say " I dont know what that means"

>>723915989
Dead by Daylight is needed as a containment.

>>723884353 (OP)
Ghost of Tsushima. It's woke to the teeth. Stronk female samurai lesbians everywhere. And the same old Ubislop collectathon. People who praise it must have played the first 10 minutes and stopped.

>>723888372
>The Budokai series was two decades ago, and it still hasn't been topped as a DB fighter and anime simulato
Sorry by DBFZ is infinitely better than arena fighting slop that is budokai

Civilization VI. Terrible visuals and tech quotes. That so many praise the game makes me suspicious it's one big gaslighting campaign.

>>723888824
>Oblivion
>under hated
newfag

>>723920917
the gameplay is okay, but it definitely felt more dinky and tiny compared to v.
It let them make the dogshit that is vii though so fuck it.

>>723916804
Nah you're fucking retarded. Splatoon was built around a persistent map that was only in 1. It's at its most fun when you can keep a constant watch on ink placements by the enemy team/tap teleport.

Not to mention past Splatoon 1 the gyro has some sort of God awful smoothing on it that makes it awful.

Splatoon 1 is the ONLY good Splatoon game and that will never change. Their are mechanical issues that will never be rectified and some that cannot be rectified because it the game mode was intrinsically designed around the gamepad

>>723919865
>BfN was probably only made because they couldn't get GW2 to run on the Switch and didn't want to bring GW1 back for some reason
What are you talking about? BfN took years before being ported to switch and was a “complete edition” with all the stuff from the base game

SOTN

Look, it's got great graphics, an amazing soundtrack, cringekino dialogue and voice acting, everything outside of the gameplay is 10/10
but the gameplay itself is just not fun. backtracking endlessly is not fun. all of the non-healing items are useless. the RPG system trivializes the boss fights by allowing you to level up and find currency to buy healing items while you go back and forth through the castle.

Super Metroid mogs it in every way.

FUCKING TRASH
FUCK TEAM17 NIGGERS AND COMMUNITY THAT SUCKS THEIR DICKS

>>723892809
Splatoon 1 felt the best to play.

>>723884353 (OP)
Was Death Stranding mentioned yet? pure marketing, literal ads, shitty story, nice walking but it destroys itself pretty quickly with shitty optimizers, shitty characters, what a circlejerk

>>723921863
It's soul-crushing how true this is. Splatoon 1 was always a blast to play, but ever since just felt very painful.

IMO the most overrated game of all time.
I really enjoyed neutral and true pacifist, there was a lot of moments that made me laugh, good music, decent gameplay and story.
And then I did genocide.
Not only was it insanely boring, it was blatantly unfinished and the constant moral pandering and story really irked me. The difficulty spikes are annoying but getting stuck on Sans for hours on end and beating him did not feel very rewarding. Not only that, it genuinely doesn't make much sense.
It's a prime example of a game that sacrifices everything it has to tell a story/portray a message, and it falls flat on its face.
>b-b-b-but it's supposed to be shit!
"If it's not fun, why bother"? Games should be fun to play, not deliberately shit. Shit game design is shit. OFF, which was the inspiration for the genocide route does the same message insanely better despite having similar issues.
Keep in mind, I'm ignoring the autistic fanbase, or Toby's constant budding into AAA games or developers, or the fact Deltarune is already overdue in development by 2 years (I'm old enough to remember the twitlonger).
Oh, by the way, I hope you bought it before the random $5 price hike for all consoles, despite being the same game : D

>>723924008
I can never get over how ass Toby's art really is. He can design portraits well but everything else is blatantly tacked on, fucking looking at Undyne's body here.

>>723890486
>/v/ now hates MGR
sign it's time to leave this board

>anons misunderstand premise and just pst games they don't like

The point is to post games ALREADY hated but not hated enough

This massive piece of shit. One of the most egregious, even comical, examples of a shallow movie-game. The gameplay is as barebones and generic third-person corridor shooter as it gets. Boring as fuck. The story implies something of interest, and never gets there. Complete waste of its concept on all fronts.

And this pretentious garbage actually had the nerve to end on a cliche gunshot, fade to black scene with some sequelbait peppered in. GAY!!! It's FUCKING GAY!!!!!!!

>>723924204
the main reason i havent played UT is that, the art is just fucking awful
>but its inspired by Mother!
i dont give a fuck, that game looks like shit too, and its also underhated
also the music being blatant ripoffs doesnt help UT, i can excuse the tumblr writing as simply not my cup of tea, but the art is awful however you see it

>>723884452
This board had skewed my perception into thinking it was more hated, which makes me insanely mad because it's one of the few games that should be as hated everywhere else as it is here.
With the normiedom being re-introduced to imsims and imsim mechanics with the system shock remake and abiotic factor respectively perhaps now they can learn just how abhorrent infinite was for the bioshock franchise and the genre at large.

>>723884353 (OP)
Risk of Rain 2

It's the most bland, boring videogame I've ever played

>>723921863
You could not be more of an idiot. Press the fucking map button, you retard. Don’t debase yourself and pretend you were holding your arms parallel to the ground and looking at the gamepad and tv at once

And gyro in 3 is solid. 2’s was ass

>>723885039
I'd be more mad at this game if it actually was the Dev's fault. In this case Sony massively overhyped what was supposed to be a small project and made a bunch of promises the devs couldn't keep. Really not their fault in this case.

>>723925914
Nah, loader grapple alone makes the game inherently more fun than the first. First game has a much better final boss and level though

>>723889023
Remember when they did actual slave labor?

completely and irrevocably ruined the series. MK9 was good return to form after the corny 3D-era games, albeit maligned by baffling story choices. MKX wasn't a gem but there was at least some remnant of an MK feeling.
this shit? absolute fucking IP sabotage. it's atrocious. and then the next one doubles down and makes it even worse. this game has the worst base-game MK roster of all time, hands down. even the classic ones that omitted guys like Scorpion still at least had other cool guys. this one has hardly any good characters at all, brings back the worst ones from MKX, adds even shittier new ones, and has the most pathetic antagonist in the series history. the gameplay was complete shit, doubling down on the stuff that sucked in MKX as well as the casualization. not to mention the absolute BUFFOONERY that they turned the Krypt into. even the fatalities suck, it's just random violence. there's no flow to any of them, it's just "oh he does this.. and then this.. and then THIS OHH AND THEN FREEZE ON THAT". fucking lame. it's a good thing hardly anyone fucking cares about this worthless franchise anymore.

>>723884353 (OP)
Every modern indie game that looks like some shitty low quality deviantART artwork that becomes super popular because the "people" who play them are the most insufferable people online and act like these indie devs invented these genres and it doesn't stop with the fans because somehow they get A, AA, and AA companies to dick suck them even harder with fucking veterans in the industry kneeling before them like they're gods. I'll never stop hating indie shit.

>>723884353 (OP)
It's just not Max Payne.

>>723921863
People who never played with the WiiU gamepad are literally incapable of understanding this post. Although I'd say an even bigger reason new splatoon games suck is that compfags ruined map design. You will never ever get cool experimental shit like moray towers again because the biggest whiners in the world are always people who think they've figured out the game and it's your fault they suck. Now it's all just stupid flat maps so they can see each corner of turf at all times... Funny how the dual screen sytem would even fix that problem.

>>723895806
Oblivion is kino, you just sound like a salty little bitch.

>>723925962
>Press the fucking map button, you retard
>Map proceeds to cover the FULL SCREEN with a FUCKING BLUR FILTER AND OPAQUE behind it just to make sure you have as little situational awareness as possible
Vs
>Glance down and see blue on your side of the map that shouldn't be there and go deal with it
Lmao ok faggot

That's without even getting into the shit ass goofy gyro based teleporting system that 2 (and I assume 3, ditched this series after 2) implemented.

You're a fucking tasteless RAT

>>723916159
Just do a few more mewing sessions anon, you'll get there one day.

>>723884353 (OP)
Elden Ring
Sekiro
BOTW
Ninja Gaiden Black
DMC 1-4
Pokémon until Sword/Shield
System Shock 1/2
Doom 2
Civ 4
FFT
FF8
FF6
MGS 2/3
MG Rising
Bayonetta 1/2

>>723884353 (OP)
This is on the TLOU 2 level of "insufferable cunt protagonist gets away with everything" and no one talks about it, deserved to bomb

>>723925962
>And gyro in 3 is solid. 2’s was ass
It's the exact same gyro shitforbrains. It's a mechanical issue, not a software issue.

>>723927154
>noo, it’s blurry, how are you supposed to see the game and the map at once
>just look away from the game entirely to see the map :)
Your post is self evidently retarded, but I spelled it out so even you could understand. Kill yourself immediately
>>723927460
No they’re not, you fucking moron
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sudrY358daY

>>723927671
>just look away from the game entirely to see the map :)
Nigger. It's in your hands. Assuming you're not a fucking retarded phoneposter you have the same ammount of awareness of where your hands are going as you type on your keyboard and look at your screen. Even more if you were using gyro as intended where you're slightly raising the gamepad so you can aim with it.

It's clear you've never done either though so you're clearly sour graping over a mechanic you have no way of interacting with to check how useful it was compared to the dogshit workaround in the following games.

>>723904531
I was mad that it completely shat on the bartender setting for yurishit. I wanted to mix drinks and here my clientele life and grievances. I was naive thinking that different mixes give actual unique dialogue . This and that Ben-To anime made me a lifetime yuri hater.

>>723884353 (OP)
Elden Ring. The dick riding that piece of shit gets is annoying.

>>723922434
Forgive me for not giving a shit about BfN's history beyond it being responsible for killing the PvZ shooter series.
Regardless, it doesn't make sense to not put the other shooters on that thing, the only things I can think of are the promotional characters in GW1, the Boss Hunt exclusive cosmetics being inaccessible and the two equine Chompers.

It practically nuked video game creativity for almost a decade.

>>723927374
what do you mean by system shock 1/2 the remake?

>>723884353 (OP)
Civ 5

>>723928018
Hard to tell if you’re that fucking stupid of just desperate for an argument, but not knowing where to find your controller isn’t the problem. No idea what sort of mental deficiencies were at worth there. But yes, it’s in your hands, as is the controller that lets you tap a button to activate the fucking map. No need to move your head.

I’ve played every Splatoon since the first testfire where fuckers thought roller was OP and had kino moments like activating bubbler before being hit by a killer wail and having it push you against a wall. I’m simply not a nostalgic retard looking at his wii u gamepad through rose tinted glasses

>>723927671
An eye moving down and then back up to notice colors that cleary contrast against each other, and the brain processing the whole thing, is a process that can take less than 13 milliseconds.
Now you factor in how you can still process stuff going on in your peripheral vision as this is happening and realize why you should really fucking end your life the first chance you get.

>>723928776
How long does it take you to double tap a button while you stare at the same screen that undergoes a blur effect that still allows for more perception than your peripheral? Seething dumbfuck lol

>>723926894
>Now it's all just stupid flat maps so they can see each corner of turf at all times
Wow it's almost like they had to ruin the level design to compensate for the lack of a WiiU gamepad
So stupid because the series could literally still be fucking good, all it would take is a goddamn map in the corner of the screen and using the 4 directions of the dpad as "teleport to my 3 teammates+home"

>>723927671
>just look away from the game entirely to see the map :)
>What is peripheral vision

>>723927671
>>723928776
Not only that but also factor in how you can repeat this process throughout the match hundreds of times without disrupting the flow of the gameplay or needing to block the screen at all for a virtually unimpeded awareness of both the game and the map. Never needing to sacrifice your attention for one or the other.

>>723884685
>UnderHATED games
>Posts a game universally despised by the fans of the series.

>>723929198
>What is peripheral vision
Not a “glance down.” >>723927154 Can't even keep your argument straight, you imbeciles lol

>>723884353 (OP)
The dev team that came in and ruined a fan service fighting game. Hope everyone of them gets bent at Nu lab zero

>>723926339
Is it true this game did the "character is killed and replaced by younger alternate self" trope?

undertale and deltarune not because of the games themselves (i have no intention of playing them and i never will) but the fan bases for both are so fucking annoying i dont know how they aren't just killed on the spot when they mention it

one thousand million percent the messenger fuck that shitty ass game

>>723926894
>>723929098
moray was brought back for 2, stop taking our of your fat, inbred asses
captcha: 8xmap

>>723884353 (OP)
everything capcom has made recently
they've gotten away with making utter fucking slop for years now and still some fucking how harbour tons of good will

>>723885736
This. Played it co-op with a friend and despite the traveling being fun and involving, there was absolutely FUCK all meaningful rewards to find in the world or in any dungeons. The entire game is a scrap grind until you scrounge together just enough to craft one of the town/build sets and buy your skills then instantly you're a god but at that point the game's over with.
It's like the devs built the entire game around people using guides and didn't want there be any actually good gear anywhere someone might beeline for at the start, meaning there was essentially no steady mid-game experience whatsoever.

>>723929096
Double tapping the button already takes more than the time your brain needs to process the information going on on the gamepad.
Even knowing this it doesn't matter anyways because at that point you're already blocking the screen. You need to actively think about when you're sacrificing your view of the screen to check the map whereas the game is constantly on your peripheral vision as you're glancing at the gamepad. You can look at your inkling's icon moving on the gamepad in real time at the same time as you're also looking at their ass on the other screen if you merely hold the gamepad up a bit.

>>723929573
Uh huh yet it's not in fucking 3 even when they brought back other 1 maps I wonder why you absolutely dishonest nigger.

>>723930052
Because dumb people fucking whined about it incessantly, not because of the map, you fucking idiot

>>723929375
You can do both. You absolutely fucking dysgenic cunt.
It's a MAP in your HANDS. You CHOOSE where it is as you PLAY THE GAME. It can be literally ANYWHERE in your cone of vision because it is PHYSICALLY in your hands in REAL LIFE.
If it is down you take a glance, if you want to look at both it and the main screen you hold it up.

I was looking forward to it too.

Modern Warfare 2 did so much irreperable damage to PC gaming. It increased prices, popularized paid map packs/dlc for multiplayer games, and set the precedent for removing server browsers and modding capabilities. On top of all that, it was a buggy, unbalanced mess and had a retarded story. Yet, for some reason, it's beloved.

>>723897645
What’s worse is that many of the attrition mechanics also applied to tanks, meaning that they spawned with limited ammo as well. Turret and acceleration speed was hilariously slowed down so much for the sake of “realism” that it forces most players to camp as far away as possible from the objectives and stay close to the supply stations.

>>723930247
>even though I said glance down at it, which is a worse system, you could also hold your gyro based control parallel to the ground to get some semblance of the dual perception more elegantly afforded by the button system!
The seething cope over your own words is hilarious

>>723884353 (OP)
Ocarina of Time
FFX
Halo
Skyrim
The Witcher 3
Elden Ring
RE7
Baldur's Gate 2

>You just hate popular things!
No, I hate bad things that casual shit slurpers like that go on to influence other things.

>>723930691
There's no dual perception there you tap a button to block the screen that's single perception.

>>723885115
I've never been a huge fan of the levels from Dire Dire Docks onward.

>>723930861
The map is overlayed onto a blurred view of the game. You can perceive both at once

>>723931048
Peripheral vision isn't that blurry in real life and you're still also blocking the majority of the screen with the map. It is as elegant as hitting a horse with a brick.

>>723930753
ah yes the influence of OoT to make games have functional camera systems, truly a horror.
Kill yourself dumb contrarian

>>723896573
That applies to pretty much any handheld game that someone who grew up on it will tell you is equal to or greater than the console games of the same genre or series.

>>723889524
>Arena notably absent
TES1Chads can't stop winning!

>>723931196
Far more elegant than having to glance down :^)

>>723931427
Consession gladly accepted. Took a while for you to break down.

>>723884452
rare, mega-based, 100% correct first post.

>>723931473
>consession
lmao, want to pretend you didn’t type that, like you pretend you didn’t admit you’re looking away from the tv to see the map

>>723931221
>ah yes the influence of OoT
to make games treat the player like a fucking retard and automate as many actions as possible. There's no N64 game with a good camera, and that includes OoT.

Marketing DD as the "muh ultra hard dungeon crawler" has to be biggest gaslight of the century. Because it takes away the attention of how fucking repetative, bloated and completely devoided of depth this game is.

The game basically throws everything at you in the first 15-20 hours then just runs out of content. And then it forces you to grind levels on your party like a subhuman golem for the next 60 fucking hours by beating the same content over and over and over and over and over again. All thet just so you can be allowed to fight the final boss.

Every enemy party looks exatly the fucking same.
>1-2 tanks up front dealing stun/bleed, 1-2 crit dealers in the middle, 1-2 stress dealer in the back; randomized
Learn how to deal with it and you beat the game. Congrats. Now do the same thing 300 more times you stupid golem.

>B-b-but at least you get items along the way
Yeah, expeeeeect, every single non-unique item in this game, down to last one, sucks fucking dick. Every single one is a throwaway garbage, unless it spacifically gives you stun chance or accurity. Wowzers, such variety.

Every single battle boils down to who has higher speed. And since stats on items sucks, the devs decided to push allll the speed buffs onto the quirks. So you basically take three characters with speed quirks and auto-win every battle. Because you kill enemies before they can get their turn. Wowzers, such a hardcore gaem.

There are only 4 location in game. But you never even need to beat more then one. You can just endlessly grind the safest one.

>>723915995
>bro if you don't like cocaine dealers in your neighborhood just don't buy cocaine lol

What a cavalcade of Fuckups.

>>723931797
And don't get me started on the hamlet. Every building has it's benefits and risks. All expect for fucking Stage Coach. Not only is it by far strongest building because it gives you new heroes but also it's the cheapest one to upgrade. And you can both dismiss and hire new heros for free. On the other hand in order to upgrade the weapons in balcksmith you need shitload of money and heirlooms. In tavern you can decreas the stress, but you may lose your items, cash or risk getting negative quirk while doing so. Even if you fart in this stupid game you get +10 stress. So why it that the most important facility in this game, Stage Coach is completely absolved of any costs and repercussions?
That's right: Because this is the devs' intended way to beat the game, and you are not allowed to diverge from it. They didn't know how to balance their own game so they decided to backtrack on their own design for the sake of convenience.
That's why there is never any reason to start your camping by upgrading anything other then Stage Coach.
It totally neglects the "risk vs reward" design of the game by spoonfeeding you the most important asset for free.

The game is so ridculessly bloated and needlessly slow that even with x3 speed mod it doesn't feel fast enough. It's like someone made 20 hour game and then artificially stretched it to +80 hours. It's dogshit. But all the reviews ever is
>but it's teh hard
Entirety of that so called "difficulty" can be trivialized by one glance into the wiki because it based on foreknowlage and not the actual skill.
What's even funniner is that almost none of the reviews on steam have even finished the game, further proving my point of how sloggy the game is.

If the binding of Isaac is rogue game with repulsive aesthetic but carried by gameplay depth, then DD is game with 0 gameplay depth carried only by it's aesthetic.
>But DD2 is wors...
Nobody fucking cares. Two wrongs don't don't make one right.

>>723931797
Hearing my friend describe how he "Puts it on his second monitor to grind" told me EVERYTHING I need to know.

As soon as Grand Fest ended I finally came to terms with the fact that the Splatoon I knew and loved is dead after trying to cope for so long. Enjoy your ugly killboxes, your battlepasses, your Balenciaga zoomer aesthetic, your godawful billionth attempt to one-up OE that takes a fat steaming shit on the setting, your cemented lifespans, whatever. Apparently a trillion little blue-haired StarCraft kids welcome this with open arms. Thanks for murdering a creative and unique IP. Thanks for reading my blog, you may continue sperging out about the gamepad.

>>723884353 (OP)
This game normalized not having dedicated servers and was the main reason behind developers abandoning the PC market in order to follow the console money. This game was the main culprit behind videogames being catered to the lowest common denominator for more than a decade.

For almost 15 years videogames were developed with console hardware in mind instead of exploiting what a Pc could do, and this game is to blame for all of that.

>>723932043
Actual fraud game. All the crossover characters where done, the backer created characters never got refunded, and the studio dodges questions about anything related to the game.

>>723931797
The moment I got my first successful DD run and my mercs got banned I felt so betrayed by everyone who recommended me the game. It's all just fucking padding.
There's already resource and energy management forcing you use different parties at a variety of levels and it's not exactly easy to build a good party for the dd, there's no fucking need to have you grind so much and it all feels like it was done to pad out the game's length.
They could have made you need incrementally stronger mercs rather than have you essentially reset your progress each time you go into the dungeon.
Game was already a massive hassle up until that point and it made me drop it. There's better things to waste your time on.

>>723932267
>one billionth attempt to one up OE
so the single campaign that is similar? 2’s campaign was just 1’s again but much more shameless, so where does this autistic hyperbole come from?

>>723884452
Yeah this destroyed the industry

>>723932481
Also, until this game map packs were introduced for free with new patches, guess when it changed.

>>723931745
lol ok fag you're even dumber than I thought. Seething about not having a jump button (a good design decision) 30 years later is braindead

>>723932690
>Seething about not having a jump button (a good design decision)
You're a fucking retard and nothing you say or think matters.

>>723932690
Nta, why do you think having no jump button was a good design decision? I haven’t really given it much thought, would be curious to hear your perspective

>>723932496
>>723931797
Fuck, i was just playing that game for the first time since i got it for free from the epic store and i was having fun. Im uninstalling it now, thanks for saving me from wasting more time.

>>723884353 (OP)
any f2p and gacha
every single one of them

>>723932481
Reminder that cod babbies grew up and are unironically nostalgic for this.

>>723932796
Consider yourself lucky you got to learn this.
But honestly beat the dungeon once and THEN drop it, then watch the final boss fight on youtube.
That way you'll have seen basically everything the game has to offer.

>>723932556
I'm talking about RotM and while SO wasn't doing it to a tee it was extremely cringe too. Raiders will do it again, and so will 4. I couldn't tell you which one will just straight-up have a living human pop out of a pod, but it will happen.

I forgot how awful Oblivion was til Todd tricked me into buying the remaster

>>723932795
>why do you think
He doesn't.

Xenoblade 3. It was a souless boring game that didn't need to be made and left no impact or legacy of it's own since it was designed to capture a wider audience and overcorrected. Complete waste of resources

>>723927012
>oblivion was my first tes
how's high school treating you, lil zoomie?

>>723932795
There's a couple of intertwined things but its basically down to the puzzle solving loop/level design. If you have jumping as a mechanic then its obviously going to incorporate some amount of player skill into it. Then when a player is trying to progress they might see some gap they need to cross and attempt to jump repeatedly, believing its a skill issue. In order to account for and prevent this you'd then have to make the puzzles even more obvious which is running counter to what makes the game enjoyable and satisfying. Now it just could be that since 3d games were still fairly new and they just wanted to make sure people would think it was another platformer like mario 64 and compete with it but it worked out
>>723933289
still seething with no real criticism of the game I see, what a sad little man

>campaign is good but completely at odds with established Titan gameplay
>Titans in multiplayer are borderline irrelevant most of the time
>most of the interesting parts of the first game (Burn Cards, rodeoing, Titan loadouts etc.) were either gutted or straight up removed
>cosmetic options are ugly as shit
>borderline facetious art style that clashes with the gritty near-future war tone
>overbloated loadout system full of shit
>inane and confusing decisions at launch (three lane maps, two-weapon loadouts, third person executions/Titan boarding)
And those are just the main points, I could go on. Still, I wouldn't call it bad, the gameplay core is largely intact, but it's clear everyone praising it never really cared for the first game

>>723933656
>still seething with no real criticism
Taking away player control and treating the player like an idiot is real criticism. You talking like a underage third world shitposter is not a defense of the game. You making up shit like 3D games still being new in late 1998 also is not a defense of the game.

>>723884972
>>723885005
"bait used to be believable" tier
go fish somewhere else kiddo

>>723933656
>it's good because it takes player skill out of the equation and puts training wheels on the whole game
Actually, that's why it's shit.

Overrated unplayable dog shit.

>>723920901
Budokai was a regular (2d?) fighter before tenkachi. Had a very based roster

balatro never hits a difficulty sweet spot. it's always way too easy or stupidly hard due to shop RNG. At high enough stakes your runs live or die based on what you find in the shop. It's genuinely insane that people talk about strategy in the game like having early econ or whatever because whether or not you get access to an econ card period is dictated by RNG.

>>723933549
If he was 5 when Oblivion came out, which I hope is still the youngest age a kid can comprehend a video game, he would be 24 now.

>>723933172
I know you’re taking about RotM. So, again, one instance of OE similarity. SO wasn’t doing OE at all. Saying “it’s cringe” is irrelevant and ridiculous considering what the series has always been. As if human shit wasn’t core to the franchise from the start with judd and all the rest in the sea scrolls

>>723885005
Agreed, it's overrated boomer shit.

>>723934067
Not even the oldest zoomer. Oldest zoomer is 28 right now.

>>723933656
I don’t really think that’s compelling, since your positioning and angle still could cause the same uncertainty

>>723885039
I haven't played much but it surprisingly is an OK game.
I just really hate how effective the "overhype, ship out trash, face backlash, make a few updates" model works on normgroids. That model is especially egregious in CP2077's case, which no amount of updates or modding will make that game fun. CP2077 isn't good. Normgroids just see the trash it was on launch, see that the game actually boots up now, and in their brain they think this is some miraculous grace of God from the selfless dev team. It's literally the same game with and without the crashing issues. And both versions of the game are trash.

>>723933805
>calls people underage and thirdies
>whilst simultaneously revealing that he was both not born before 2000 and doesn't understand simple English words like "fairly"
yeah you're mad lmao. You think all games should be every genre at once because you're a little tard that grew up on ubislop.
>>723934296
>angle
The n64 controller has notches around the stick for this purpose. And I agree that it isnt perfect but it does drastically reduce this friction that interferes with the core game

>>723885519
I fell for the meme of buying this because the same guy made Noitu Love 2. Fucking rigged.

>>723934514
Sounds like a you issue.
CP77 is fun. And the story is surprisingly not as shit as most things releasing around it.
Let's not pretend the crashing and bugs aren't the crux of people's complaints when every bot poster here just recycles the same release webms of characters t-posing or cars falling through the ground.

>>723931797
>>723932068
>>723932496
>>723933048
>>723932796
damn I was in the same boat years ago
first time I grinded up a reliable party and the game said "by the way you can't use these guys again until you unlock higher dungeons" I knew this game was going to be a pointless waste of time, revolving door of RNG teammates and losing anyone good even when I don't lose them.
To hear you can't even use the mercs again after the final dungeon is really nail on the coffin

>>723934618
Controller notches don’t really matter when you can't guarantee the camera will be at the proper angle relative to the edges you want to jump off. But I get your perspective and think it’s reasonable. That said, the restrictive movement was a factor in me finding older Zeldas less mechanically enjoyable than BotW and TotK

>Be grounded crime thriller for 99% of the game
>True ending throws all of it away for the sake of some cheap emotional ending...
>by introducing some supernatural time travel mumbo jumbo that doesn't even attempt to make logical sense...
>retroactively ruining all esatblished plot up until this point, and all of the potentail set up for the future sequels
I don't know what made me angrier while ever playing a video game: Getting to that ending or reading the opinions online about how "beautiful" and "graet" it was. I tweak out just thinking about it.

we're never getting BD or revo kino again because of this and BS

>>723885039
somehow this game is better than elite and all those other shitty space games, modern space genre is dead
it's crazy a game as old and busted as Urquan completely blows all those other games out of the water

>>723934821
>by introducing some supernatural time travel mumbo jumbo that doesn't even attempt to make logical sense...
This is most anime. Why does Japan love doing this?

>>723934821
extremely filtered.

Bioshock infinite burial at sea part 2 especially, revises so many things to be retarded in the first two games to push elizabeth being important. fuck off.

>>723934618
I know English is hard when you're retarded, but I said you type like an underage thirdie, not that you are one. You're very clearly a retarded N64baby. That's why you're pretending to be older than me (you're not) or pretending that dogshit controls and treating the player like a retard was okay because 3D games were still fairly new in late 1998 despite anyone who wasn't a retarded tendie who grew up with only an N64 not being mystified by them.

>>723934753
>Let's not pretend the crashing and bugs aren't the crux of people's complaints when every bot poster here just recycles the same release webms of characters t-posing or cars falling through the ground
If the game was actually a fun game, it would be fun with or without the t-posing models and visual bugs. Put polish on a piece of shit and it's still a piece of shit. The game wasn't fun before and it wasn't fun after. The just turned the shit release into an "underdog story" about how this studio "turned everything around" and "made an amazing game!" That's literally 100% of the admiration for CP2077. Nobody actually likes the game, they like the narrative surrounding the release and updates.

>>723934849
There are people who enjoyed this game. I want to smash them with a hammer.

>>723934764
It's just grinding for the sake of grinding. You have to have that mentality in order to enjoy it. If you respect your time just don't fucking play it because you'll get nothing out of it other than more grinding.

People talk about games that are a slog to replay but I genuinely can't fathom how nobody ever mentions it about DD. I don't know why the fuck would you want to do NG+ after beating it once because the ammount of time spent on that already equals replaying a regular game multiple times. It's GREAT if you want to have something you can sink time into but it is absolutely not better than let's say fucking Warframe of all things. Shit I think I had more fun in warframe because an integral part of it's grinding is getting and being forced to use new frames and weapons. In DD you're just repeating the same pattern endlessly and you've seen everything in the game by the point you challenge and beat a darkest dungeon run the first time. If you like grinding and get big dopamine from the gambling mechanics at that point then sure but for people who weren't genetically predisposed to losing everything in a casino the gameplay is not all that exciting once you've been consistently and effectively doing it for a while.
Pic unrelated I just think it's cool.

>>723896573
More like just plain bad.
>flashback to things you were told ONE SCREEN AGO
Fuck off

>>723934919
>>723935102
I think the worst part about that ending is how there is logical meaning behind it (even ignoring time travel) other then Akane being completely deranged psychopath, despite give 0 clues of being one, even in the epilogue.

Like even if she did it to ""save herself"" then why didn't she open the incinerator after the whole ordeal was done?

Or how half of the game's plot was dedicated to ice mummy... only to said mummy not being part of the game's plot at all whatsoever.

It's like a detective story but it actively punishes you for paying close attention to it's story, indead of rewarding you.

>>723889176
This and basically any other really big super hyped-up game like BOTW. I don't mind ER for what it is, even if I'm not a fan of its genre, but good lord IT WAS FUCKING EVERYWHERE FOR FOUR MONTHS, even before its release. It wouldn't leave me the fuck alone and just for that I associate its name with instant anger and repulsion. Also its fandom is autistic as fuck but that's true of most fanbases.

>>723935338
ok then grandpa, why dont you go back to gamefaqs forums where you can debate why ffvii is better and how its been robbed in the polls yet again. You have a severe mental sickness if you are trying to consolewar about consoles that are 30 years old, maybe its dementia. Later fag

>>723935372
I liked it before edgerunners ever came out or they started the "fixing" narrative.
Characters other than Johnny felt likeable and even Johnny has his loveable asshole moments, but everyone felt believable. People shit on characters like takemura for being mean to you in one ending where you go against arasaka but the game clearly established from the beginning that the guy was a golem. And the gameplay was decently fun IMO. The newer updates after that though restructured and added stuff to all the upgrade trees that made the rpg elements have some weight to them.

Phantom Liberty is a masterpiece compared to the main game too, you will have people genuinely wanting to kill each other about their opinions on which ending is better in virtually every thread about it.
I never fell for the chungening of it and I had decent fun just because a friend recommended it to me so I pirated it. Don't regret spending my time on it one bit.

>>723918191
Nigga what, how?

>>723934821
Oh yeah, that one sucked. The only good part was the Ace reveal, the puzzles are brain dead and most of the plot was boring. Really mediocre VN.

>>723885039
It feels like this is the game that proved you can overpromise, under deliver and outright lie and still make tons of money from the retarded npc slaves.

>>723884452
Qrd what made it so bad and why did it fuck up the industry?

>>723936328
very bad ending

>>723913672
>worse than 06
>playable start to finish with no major performance issues or game breaking bugs
Anon come on
its not a great game but 06 is beaten by anything that doesn't self destruct or shit itself

>>723884452
i'll take the bait:
why is this not hated enough?
never played it cuz it looked boring and gay. BS1 was absolutely too scary for teens me, i only got so far into it but after the first big nautilus dude i was done (i dont do any horror well in any form of media)

>>723890486
Fags will seethe but this is a good post.

MGR is really nothing special. combat is barebones and easy and pretty much every weapon is bad to use.

Its a meme game. Entirely memed into relevance.

>>723890959
TLOU was great. 2 is shit.

>>723892809
who the fuck doesn't like mario wonder??? it is so soulful and loving... you sound bitter as fuck for no reason anon!! it was kino! it was fun! it had great levels, great music, fun power ups, constantly wowing with the wonder power ups! how could you not like it? and oh my god those animations! soul! kino!

you're right about new horizons though that sucked!!

>>723884353 (OP)
biggest wasted potential of a game

>>723936328
It made bioshock transition from an already watered-down imsim with great ambience and storytelling to a fully linear cinematic bloom-shooter. It was immensely celebrated at release and journalists started pushing that it's story and gameplay were "smart".
It lowered the bar immensely for releases that gen and after because it was as a whole a massively generic release with a story that jerked itself off too much but was considered a 20/10.
It also put the nail in the coffin for anything that wasn't a linear moviegame because the whole debacle convinced execs that it was a profitable and smart move to simplify games and try to sell them as movies, massively contributing to the crash we're having right now. It made every studio want to push out their own cinematic oscarbait masterpiece that's as deep as a puddle but artsy-fartsy looking.

>>723934114
Yeah 1 and I'd even go as far as to say 2 totally made me think about LCD crystals and flying to the moon in the future. What I'm trying to say is that their base campaigns absolutely will be the same jump the shark shit. There WILL be OE: Boogaloo Harder and OE 4: Boogaloo Chronicles. While the obligatory DLC will be tamer, but still do stupid shit like SO did with the metaverse garbage and handwaving the horror of sanitization. I expect it 100%. Splatoon should have stayed a biologically-based for lack of a better term post-apocalyptic 90s tubular summer deal with OE being as drastic as it'll ever be and putting a cap on the nagging surviving humans question. As amazing as it was they nutted way too fucking fast.

>>723899237
Does kids calling things gay elicit the same knee jerk response from you or is it just trannies that you dont like people shitting on?

>>723935909
The "SAVED GAME!!!" narrative was spread WAYYYYYY before edgerunners came out. Like, by multiple years. Not reading the rest of your post.

>>723932267
>you may continue sperging out about the gamepad
I shall. The Switch and the Switch 2 HAVE gamepads! Why the fuck don't we have the option to use it as a second screen, and not JUST for handheld mode!?

Spore fell by the wayside in memory but it's criminal how much they fucked up something that could have been as seismic as The Sims was.

>>723887497
Half life 2 and I disagree. Half life 1 and I would agree. Half life 1 was novel for having the most threadbare of plots at the time when shooters either had none or they were comically silly plots. The gunplay isn't anything special. It was valuable for mods and map making - INCREDIBLY INVALUABLE for that, but if that didn't exist it'd be a "Oh yeah that game existed" memory.

It doesn't deserve hatred though, there's nothing bad about it it just wasn't some exceptional thing.

>>723936665
The crown

Fate/Extra.

>>723936893
belongs to the TR

>>723887497
>now every game has to have "physics" even when they don't need to.
What are you even saying retardo? Who and where are all these game companies prioritizing and putting "physics" at all in their video games? Last time I checked, the most important thing was volumetric lighting and 8k dynamic super textures + AA + tranny bipoc foxkin's power fantasy all for the shitty game to run at 10 fps on unreal 5

>>723901626
And here you are impotent seething about it.

You retards take this shit too seriously. Underage behavior.

>>723934919
>>723935102
I think the worst part about that ending is how there is no logical meaning behind it (even ignoring time travel) other then Akane being a completely deranged psychopath. Despite her giving 0 clues of being one trough the whole game, not even in the epilogue.
Like even if she did it, just to ""save herself""., then why didn't she open the ACTIVE incinerator (with her so-called bf stuck inside) after the whole ordeal was done?
Or how half of the game's plot was dedicated to an ice mummy... only for said mummy to not be a part of the game's story at all, whatsoever.

It's like a detective story but it actively punishes you for paying close attention to it's plot, rather then rewarding you.

>>723936736
The sad thing is we didnt even get artsy fartsy stuff from big studios after that, we just got the deep-as-a-puddle part

>>723936864
Well I clearly liked it while everyone else hated it and told me not to like it. Same as here.
You can just blissfully try to rationalize it in a way that allows you to remain bitter and fat about it or you can look further into it. Your call.

>>723915670
>uh dude its fine its not that big of a deal
>ugh just let people enjoy things!
I hate those fags like you wouldn't believe bro

>>723884972
>>723885005
/v/ being contrarian shouldnt surprise or annoy me, but here we are. kill yourselves.

>>723907673
I fully get what you mean. It might be at a more tolerable state now, but it also killed interest in the game even harder than it was at before, and the reason only a small niche of people even bothering with custom content anymore. It's a shame because StarCraft and Diablo II got remakes people are mostly okay with, but WC3 got shat on harder than anyone else.

>>723937179
agreed, but gamers have a hard time dealing even with last of us's basic plots without feeling personally insulted. I wish we got full roshambo shit.

Sonic adventure is so bad it has a permanent negative effect on the entire franchise.

>>723936781
OE is fine with its human created AI extinction event laser in a giant statue of david, but a space ship is jumping the shark?

>>723884353 (OP)
Palworld
The game stops being a video game half way through and basically turns into a grindy piece of shit that requires you to mod it in order to complete it. Once you hit Palsteel, drop the game because its just bullshit from here on out unless you want a poormans gacha.
Also the fact that you can't control your pal directly like in almost everysingle pocket monster game is fucking retarded as you now have to hope they don't one shot lower level pals so that you can catch them and their solution was to add some retarded bracelet that prevents that.
If you were able to control them the stats system would actually mean something instead of being fucking useless with only passives mattering and type mattering.

The only reason any plays this piece of shit is to fuck with Nintendo or goon to the Pals thats it.

>>723901472
the first few floors of the castle id say are pretty clear in what theyre supposed to be. bob omb battlefield being.. self explanatory, jolly roger bay being the site of a shipwreck, the boo house being a haunted house, etc. the later levels do get pretty abstract, but theyre oddly cozy in their more "platformer level" design.

>>723931797
>>723932068
>>723932796
sorry but NO, darkest dungeon is a good game. certainly not "underhated" that is totally insane. there's a lot going on in DD way beyond the actual mechanics in and out of the dungeons (yes, clicking LMB isn't extremely complex, the whole game can be played with your mouse and there's no "timings" - part of the reason i love it i can do something else with my other hand like eat food). I love the atmosphere of the game, and how it can be stressful but super chill too. it was a game made with love. you dont have to love it, you can even hate it i guess, but saying its underhated is going too far.

it mixes things up the deeper you get and you start to appreciate more of the kits and what they can do. there is some grinding, lots of games have grinding, but once you understand how to play all of your "grinding" is actually progresssion, unlike many games where youre having to repeat things just to generate extra resources to continue (shitty), DD actually has enough going on where you never need to stagnate if you understand how to play. i guess brainlets got filtered because it was a game they couldnt beat their first try on Radiant and needed to feel validated itt.

to anyone interested in DD at least check it out on sale or just torrent it for free and pay them for it later if you enjoy it. it's not like some ultra-dopamine producing rush like apparently some of these guys needed, but it's a nice puzzle game of sorts. personally i have 300+ logged hours in steam for DD and still havent beaten it yet lol. but, im on my first run where i finally get everything and almost have a filled roster of heroes all above level 4 (that isn't simple)

DD literally is one of the 2 games left on my Steam account so I had to speak up lol (i have removed all else to declutter)

>>723885039
Its a shame becuase they really did fix their game but normalized games being released half made but full price.

>>723937557
also the system thought my post was spam and i had to reformat so here's some more (((You's))) to throw around:
>>723934764
>>723933048
>>723935430
DD is a fine game. I'm not going to say you have to like it because it's not a game for everyone, not all games are and in fact many are not.

but all of you itt saying DD is an UNDERhated game are just wrong. plain wrong. triggered me enough to make me post.

You dont have to like it but you can't say it's underhated, youre being super inaccurate.

>>723937242
Youre legit just a slop eater.

Cyberpunk was, is and always will be hype, and people excuse far more than they should when they wanna consume the slop they've been hyping for like 5 years.

Cyberpunk is a shit mishmash of different gameplay elements from other series like GTA, Borderlands, Deus Ex and doesnt do any of them better than the games its aping. Mind you, this after years swearing up and down it would be a revolutionary RPG, only for them to silently remove any mentions of the term from promotional material a short time after it launched completely broken.

A game can launch broken, not have a tenth of the features the devs promised, be generally lame and unfun and retards who hyped it for years on end will eat it up. Thats the thing devs and publishers finally figured out: if your game has hype it doesnt matter if you shit out a turn, retards will eat it up.

Shit gunplay, shit driving, shit writing and no atmosphere. Has neon lights and graphics and its open world? Good enough, here's my money, im a retarded slave.

>>723934917
Ive been loving StarSector but you wont see that on steam
It's not perfect but it's been my favorite space RPG in a long time since my young playthrough with KOTOR back in the day

>>723937557
>personally i have 300+ logged hours in steam for DD and still havent beaten it yet lol
>but, im on my first run where i finally get everything and almost have a filled roster of heroes all above level 4

>>723884353 (OP)
Shadow of the Colossus
Because fuck you.

PUBG, H1Z1.
All those early games that took battle royale and proved you could sell a game on it alone.

>>723937754
It was fun and I pirated it. Would buy it for a sale on the prices it goes for nowadays.

You yourself are talking about falling for the hype but if you have genuinely no hype for it and see it as what it is it's more than worth a playthrough. Back when I picked it up I had to genuinely brush off the hate people had for it and my preconceptions. People shat on it FAAAAR too much and that's ironically enough a direct consequence of the hype not delivering. If there genuinely was no hype for it back then you would not be shitting on it right now.

>>723937557
>300 hours and haven't finished it
Thank you for your confirmation. I'm not touching this game.

>>723901301
sounds like ludo

>>723890503
>Cant meme rush with recruit anymore
I feel like I should have cried when they got rid of him. I had a retarded amount of time on the game and I dropped it for good after Sledge lost his smg 11. All those hours of m870/smg11 rushing like tears in the rain....

>>723904531
>plot starts to finally pick up
>game ends
FUCK YOU

>>723884353 (OP)
ocarina of time for permanently enshittening zelda

>>723895243
I dont even care about the game but the OST is very good and was worth the 1000 years of gooner hell it spawned

>>723910504
nta, pokemon go

>>723937557
It makes sense. Poor dog will defend his only leftover bone
If I had to find one positive about the game is that it is the only RPG I can think which has all of it's classes equally balanced, depite having 16 of them. Even if you categorized all the heros by their streanght, you could still replace the strongest one with the weakest without suffering too suvere whiplash, as long as you know what you are doing.
But that's it. That's only postive I could find about this game's gameplay. Stress may be intresting mechanic but it's managment is so-so.

Yeah the visual aesthetic is cool and so is ancestors voice. But that's not everything what should be able to offer.
The more dungeon crawlers you will play the more you will realize how shallow DD's gameplay depth is.

Take Shiren 5 as example.
The game is incredibly basic for the first 10 hours or so. But the gameplay becomes more and more complex the deeper you go. Slowly you realize that you not only can but also should think outside of the box min-max your chance of survival or to escape from tricky situation. Almost every enemy has a unique gimmick which you can exploit to your advantage if you know how. Relaying on luck or unchanging strategy will grant you only dimishing results, especially in dungeons. To get extract maximum gains you have to go vabank, but only because the game's design naturally allows for it to express yourself.

But that's not something you can do in DD. In DD, you always have to go for minimal risk. Always fighting randomized of the same enemies. Always clinging to the same routines.
I remember being so dissapointed after I beat entire Crimson Court in one 10-15 hour session with one party (LEP-ABO-OCC-JST) and no breaks. Because the game is so telegraph that once you figure it out it has nothing left to offer.
DD might have high skill floor but it also has very low kill celling.

To see game's flaws you sometimes need to expand your horizons. Or game catalog in this matter.

>>723897645
Was it actually that bad? I had a good amount of fun with the game before the TTK change during the Pacific expansion made me quit it. Also dropping V2s on campers felt great.

Morrowind

Was so terrible it single-handedly made rpgs change course to be playable.

Never mind the orthography and grammatics.
I was in hurry due to bump limit.

>>723937384
An advanced AI going insane after thousands of years was a lot more graceful than Alterna and what they did to Grizz yeah. Even though I've always been mixed on the vaporwave aesthetic the giant statue laser fit perfectly for how on the nose it was. Ark Polaris (RIP Bonerattle wishes it was as high T) as it was in 2 was a good way to incorporate space

>>723904905
i'd rather just forget about it and anything related to bungie completely

>>723937557
It makes sense. Poor dog will defend his only leftover bone
If I had to find one positive, about the DD is that it is the only RPG I can think of which has all of it's classes equally balanced. Depite having over 16 of them. If you categorized all the heroes by their strength, you could still be able to replace the strongest one with the weakest in your comp, without suffering too severe whiplash, as long as you know how to pilot it.
But that's it. That's only positive I could find about it's gameplay. Stress may be intresting mechanic, but it's management is so-so.

Yeah the visual aesthetic of sprites is cool, and so is ancestor's voice. But that's not everything what the game should be able to offer.
The more dungeon crawlers you will play, the more you will realize how shallow DD's gameplay depth is.

Take Shiren 5 as an example.
That game is incredibly basic for the first 10 hours or so. But the gameplay becomes more and more complex the deeper you go. Slowly you start to understand that you can but also should think outside of the box min-max your survival chances to be able to escape from tricky situations.
Almost every enemy in that game has a unique gimmick which you can exploit to your advantage (for exaple a mob which swallos you equipment and drops it's upgrade on death) if you know how. Relaying on luck or unchanging strategy will grant you only dimishing results. To get extract maximum potential you have to go vabank. But that's only possible because the game's design naturally allows for you to express yourself.

>>723940329
But that's not something you can do in DD. In DD, you always have to go for minimal risk. Always fighting randomized groups of the same enemies. Always clinging to the same routines. Buying same equipment on each area.
I remember being so disappointed after I beat entire Crimson Court in one 10-15 hour session with one party (LEP-ABO-OCC-JST) without even having to return to hamlet. Because the game is so telegraph that once you figure it out it has nothing left to offer. Just grind. Painful amount of it.
DD might have high skill floor but it also has very low kill celling.

To see game's real flaws, you sometimes need to expand your horizons. Or your game catalog in this matter.