Thread 723888952

ITT: Amazing games with awful fanbases

>>723888952 (OP)
Should have named it dogshit games with retarded fans

>>723889205
(you)

One of the best modern wrpgs absolutely tainted by how bad the trannys are in the community. Dev bent the knee instead of standing on what was very clearly written in the game. I'm not sure why troons constantly latch onto MALE characters who were FORCED to crossdress as a child. Happened with Bridget too.

>>723888952 (OP)
It wasn't as bad before Downpour

What could ever be discussed about this game besides furry shit

>>723888952 (OP)
>>723889393
Downpour with its rainbow slugcat OCs threw the door wide open for people who won't even play the game, but who love engaging in Tumblr-esque fandom culture.

It breaks my heart bro. Somehow the high art of this game should've attracted life denying buddhists and schizo tech accelerationists and mindbroken psychonauts. It deals with the core problem of life and death repeating in a precise and beautiful way. When I finished the game and went online to see what people thought about the world and the art I was stunned to realise that the "community" was comprised of tens of thousands of uWu-core animal fuckers making cooing noises over their "slugcat" designs and harping over various soulless mechanical challenges, completely, completely missing the point of the game. I can't even imagine how the creators must feel, watching these SSRI poisoned ghouls rip apart their creation and build plushie toys out of it. It's literally the best game ever made, if you can call it it.

>>723889410
Not an easy game to talk about. But you can appreciate it.

>>723888952 (OP)
what is void fluid anyway ?

>>723889410
The least most interesting part about RW vanilla is the slugcats. You could change them out with literally anything and nothing about the game would change. I wish I had a time machine so I could warn Joar about the consequences of adding a semi-furry creature as the game's playable character.
>>723889595 put it perfectly, thank you.


>>723889393
>>723889570
This, desu. The game lost its original artistic merit when it made slugcut donut steel characters as the focal point of its world and gameplay. Vanilla was so amazing because you were merely the participant of an otherwise uncaring ecosystem, not its arbitrator.

>>723888952 (OP)
All of them

>>723889595
>life denying buddhists and schizo tech accelerationists and mindbroken psychonauts
That sounds just as insufferable as a fanbase full of furries

>>723890483
Not at all, since these types all congregate in monasteries, sanatoriums, or graveyards before the age of 35. They wouldn't burden the internet with their presence unlike the present so-called fanbase.

>>723888952 (OP)
I still remember when I finished the base game, and decided to search some info and discuss my favorite parts, just to see that the whole fandom was a bunch of retards that want to fuck the slugcats and spam their Tumblr account.

Hollow knight twitter community is also cancer, people use headcanon as the "true" canon, and when you tell them to use the wiki they have a psychotic attack

this game scared the shit outta me. the spiders overwhelming you, so dark you can't even see them, the map taking forever to open and making no sense, not knowing what I can eat, or what I can grab, or what any of the symbols meant. it was a feeling of being small in a big big world that nothing else had ever given me.

>>723888952 (OP)
my wife loves this game and I regularly have to console her after another crashout from having to interact with this game's community for the solution to a niche bug

>>723889350
Tainted by the dev first, he opened the gates.

Is rain world as hard as people say

>>723888952 (OP)
Who cares about fanbases, just play the game lol

>>723890958
Joining the Discord made me suicidal.

>>723891164
It's a game that can only be learned through failure but I don't think it's as hard as people say it is

>>723888952 (OP)
Why do indie games all inevitably become that way? Is it because they feel more entitled to the developers time because they "owe" them for taking a flyer on their game rather than AAA slop?

>>723891164
It's Noita-tier; gets bearable when you learn the mechanics but RNG can still fuck you hard. The first few hours filter most people, including me when I played for the first time. Worth it though.

Verdict on this?

>>723890672
im starting to realize that every single fanbase or "community" straight up sucks because all of them focus so much on their respective topics that end up building an echo chamber whose sole purpose is defending their obsession from any criticism.
just try naming any fanbase that didnt become a shithole eventually

>>723891396
This game and hollow knight both feature white blobbly characters with black eyes. A specific strain of internet parasites discovers this, confuses the small elation of overcoming the game's challenges with life-affirmation, and adopts the game's most superficial elements as a kind of cloak, draping themselves in it entirely, and slowly begins to occupy the game's entire territory, consuming and rotting it from the inside out, until they replace what the game's original message and mood was about, then it's all just fanart and catchphrases and gitgud. Life is actually full of parasites, and the internet is no different.

All of them. Every fanbase is awful.

>>723891621
Thats how fanbases work, sadly
>Original fanbase is enthusiasts who wish to honestly discuss the game
>As game get popular, they get outnumbered by absolute firstcomers with their experiences and unknowing opinions flooding the discussion
>As a result the fans move to another game/fandom and the community degrades into hellhole of shit newbie opinions of "I lost hence (my guy) is underpowered and shit and needs to be buffed and the (other guy) is blatantly OP and needs to be nerfed"

Best aesthetics of all time award. My only complaint is the music could be better.

None of them even play the fucking games.

>>723892436
Heresy. James Primate's work is amazing. Imo the game falls short on its promotional art as it doesn't represent the game and its art faithfully.

I finished Rain World once, had a great time and have good memories of my playthrough.
I won't let that memory be tainted.

Though I was excited for the dev's new anti-grav racing game that alas also looks like shit.

>>723892636
>Imo the game falls short on its promotional art as it doesn't represent the game and its art faithfully
Kek too true, the saturation in the images and cutscenes looks like outtakes from Ori.

I don't mind the music at all man. Snare drums just aren't my thing. They always feel cheap. The environments in this game massive, deep, derelict; I was hoping for massive synthesizers to match them. The snippy snappy snares threw me off at times, but it's a taste thing.

>>723892772
>Airframe ultra also looks like shit
howso

cheaters, leavers, noobs who queue for everdarks without having finished base bosses, evergaol rushers at level 1, noklateo rushers at day 1, trannies trying to claim revenant which is actually the loli character, people who grief you because you didn't follow their route once, people who split off and die alone, people who steal loot that would've been great on your character and then proceed to not use it
but the game is the most fun i've had with a videogame in decades

>>723893271
I tuned into the dev streams when the notE3 show was on, and I dunno, it was very slow and everyone kept getting stuck on corners and geometry.
Granted everything I saw was in some multiplayer combat thing so maybe the actual racing is good.

What's an awful game with an amazing fanbase?

>>723893632
I've played the demo and it's pretty good desu. I haven't heard much more about the development beyond that

>>723893935
Though, I can only think of fightan kusoge
A lot of games are broken as fuck but the community understands this and plays on the joke that the games' mechanics are

The community and its individuals need to -not- take themselves seriously and this is a rare sight in these ego driven days

>>723893935
Starbound (on occasion)

Every match I've joined in this game has half a server full of trannies and dirties. The chat is like a discord server with it's constant spamming of unfunny, stale memes and the autists on the mics. To top it off, they won't quit whining about how the 16 year old game that barely anyone actually plays deserves updates because "Valve makes money off of it" when the same can be said about literally any multiplayer game that is still being sold today. I don't see these people campaigning for fuckin' Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare or any of the old Call of Duty games that had their servers shut down the second the next game came out. If anything, TF2 is less entitled to updates because it's free to play and you can host your own servers

>>723891396
Indie communities have been a meme since before video games were born, every single joke you can come up about them has been already done millennia ago
The more niche something is the higher the chance you have to attract loud weirdos

>>723894593
>furries

>>723891621
>>723891957
Fan behaviour is fundamentally mentally ill. No, the problem is not real fandoms being taken over by casuals. The "real fans" are overwhelmingly autistic schizos and the second quoted poster is obviously one of them. Fandom itself is the problem. Sane people don't obsess over a single game to this extent.

>>723891164

It's one of few games that I think can be legitimately called unfair because it doesn't teach you anything, almost everything can kill you, and has RNG elements to it

>>723888952 (OP)
I knew a guy who was really into this game. Ended up becoming a gay furry femboy and he's part of this game's awful community last I heard. He was into the game before the expansion though.

to this day, i have no clue why fanbases even matter when it comes to single player games

I can see why it does for MP games, and i can also sort of understand it for games that are somewhat cryptic or for which you might want to engage with the fandom for help or similar stuff, but the vast majority of SP games aren't like that, you start the game and play it, enjoying it or not, keeping on playing it to the end or not, and that's it, why does the fandom matter?

>>723891164
its a game that gets easier as you get more skilled at it.

It sucks about rainworld, even any fanworks you need to avoid the sea of pronoun and trans bullshit just to see anything interesting using the world.

>>723888952 (OP)
Rain World's community was way better before the first expansion came out desu. You could actually find people that would honestly talk about the game and its mechanics without talking about faggot-tier shit like the memes that surround the game. I swear the average age of the game's community dropped by a solid 10 years when Downpour came out. There's literally no good place to discuss Rain World.

>>723891621
my twitter keeps putting people who engage with “fandoms” on my timeline and it seems to either be tumblr teens who don’t know better or troons

>>723891164
It's mildly obtuse, there's more of a learning curve than outright difficulty

>>723900750
>There's literally no good place to discuss Rain World.
Downpour even killed threads here. I still loved it though. I love the world and aesthetics of RW, but I also love it mechanically, and it's what keeps the game fresh for me. So, sure, shit like artificer and saint don't fit in, but damn if it wasn't fun zipping around like a cyan lizard and genociding scavs.

That said, it's about time for another playthrough. How do I mix it up? I've gone through the normal route countless times, up the Wall, etc etc. Maybe Outskirts > Farm Arrays > Subterranean > Shoreline?

>>723901512
>How do I mix it up?
you may roll your eyes, but trying to get achievos is pretty fun. Setting goals per playthrough such as taming a red lizard, gathering pearls etc. can freshen up the gameplay loop. Also try expedition mode if you haven't already.

>Downpour even killed threads here.
I miss them.

>>723891164
A lot of trial and error, but if you can stick with it long enough to get your bearings it gets way more manageable. Also some RNG, but I think it helps spice things up without becoming too bullshit for the most part.

>>723902619
Yeah I've done plenty of expedition. I still have a lot of the more difficult/time consuming challenges to do.

>>723901512
I dare you to go Farm Arrays to Sky Islands. It requires a literal digital miracle, which feels thematically appropriate.

>>723903302
I did that on my first playthrough, accidentally, just wandering around trying to find where to go. Yes it was a nightmare.

>>723901512
Honestly i dont mind saint and artificier.
Artificier is just the old trope of "mom mad because children dead" and saint goes more on the whole circle thing.

>>723893935
Civ games

>>723903674
As another anon mentioned, they all spit in the face of the game by prioritising the slugcat instead of the world around it. The game is designed to make you feel like an inconsequential witness to the huge carcass of a dead world. Adding slugcats with quirks and gimmicks, all of which empower you tremendously ways that can only be justified as magic, and whose powers are balanced by making the environment comically hostile, is missing the point. And yes, their addition attracted the fuckedup furfags like leeches in the water.

>>723889595
>life denying buddhists and schizo tech accelerationists and mindbroken psychonauts
...in other words trannies

>>723904276
Unfortunately the rare high-vibrational based tranny has a 97% likelihood of suicide. So we're just stuck with the AGP dregs.

>>723888952 (OP)
The whole series, really.

>>723903472
Jesus christ

>>723904092
>And yes, their addition attracted the fuckedup furfags like leeches in the water.
true, but they get attached to almost anything.
>As another anon mentioned, they all spit in the face of the game by prioritising the slugcat instead of the world around it. The game is designed to make you feel like an inconsequential witness to the huge carcass of a dead world. Adding slugcats with quirks and gimmicks
I get it, i do like the story of artificer with the whole revenge thing yes, but maybe it could have been done without the rocket jumping stuff.
Saint i really like the snow fucked up world thing, but i understand why he could be divisible being a bodhisattva and all.

Honestly this things alone arent a deal breaker for me, the problem is what it attracted, all the furries and faggots, all the pronoun bullshit and OCs.
Fuck its not even interesting shit most of the time, there are some interesting projects like a slugcat language and some other stuff like some very cool animations but its mostly shitposts, memes and furry-tier porn.

>>723888952 (OP)
Semi-related, but does any /v/scholar has that pic of Rain World, Hollow Knight, Isaac and other indieslops having same-face (white face emty eye socets)?

I need it for the next time this shitty thread gets posted.

bumpan

>>723905225
>unironically using the term indieslop
Go back to sucking Nintendo and AAA cock you insufferable faggot

>>723893935
HoMM3

>>723891436
noita was easy, or at least it lent itself to constantly trying again until you learned things, rain world feels extremely heavy for some reaosn

>>723908487
Has some bad apples, but it's mostly great.

>>723909070
in rainworld you never really reach a big powerlevel even with game knowledge, knowing how to wand craft is a lot bigger of difference in noita than anything rain world offers.

Hello I hate Drainage System that is all. Many hours spent in this game, I still can't swim.