Thread 724141162

I told you video games are quickly-deprecating software.

I mean what other medium calls something from 2010 "retro" unless its lifespan was only 10 years?

planned obsolescence.
they could keep old games running perfectly if they tried. hell, fans do it for free in countless non-profit emulator projects.
the only reason this billion-dollar-bitch won't do it is because they want you to have FOMO and buy their products without thinking because if you don't buy them now they might be gone some day. It's a choice.

>>724141162 (OP)
>Games eventually stop running
maybe thats because Nintendo does everything it can to make sure of that?
They are the faggots that think selling games for 3 months and then pulling them is a good idea
Constantly nuking romsites and emulators for ((no reason))

No other company is nearly this bad

>>724141162 (OP)
He never actually said this though.

>>724141528
He didn't have to, you can see it in his eyes.

>>724141162 (OP)
>films remain forever
Tell that to the stream exclusive movies that became lost media when the service ended

>>724141162 (OP)
>stop selling old games
>go after anyone who wants to play old games in another way
>ORD GAMEU STOP LUNNING SO WE MAKE MOVIE

>>724141528
Would a 4chan image of a news article ever lie to you

>>724141587
>why would a twitter screencap lie to you
lmao

Miyamoto hates Rareware!!!!!!

>>724141580
Normie problems. I have an account on a private movie tracker that has pretty much every movie known to man, so I don't care.

>>724141635
And I can pirate or emulate any game that has been delisted off of digital stores at any time, that’s not relevant to the point Nintendo is trying to make.

>>724141528
>>724141587
according to this article, he said it
https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/63038

kyodonews seems to be a reputable source as far as I can tell. wikipedia says they've been around for 80 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyodo_News

>>724142163
His quote was taken out of context. He was talking about the Nintendo museum. Stop falling for click bait.

>>724142369
source?

no one else calls old things retro than retarded video game players who don't understand meaning of words.
like holy shit. pick up a dictionary. fucking gaymers are destroying meaning of words one by one. nothing means anything anymore

>>724142567
>no one else calls old things retro than retarded video game players
Yeah, like "planned obsolescence".

>>724141162 (OP)
>what other medium calls something from 2010 "retro"
Stop pretending to be retarded. HD gaming isn't considered retro. 2006 maybe when PS2 was still around. Yeah 2006 movies are also considered old

>>724142567
We decided to call old games retro about 30 years ago. If your dictionary can't catch up with how the word is actually used for 30 years, that's not our problem

>>724142567
retro
adjective
ret·ro ˈre-(ˌ)trō
: relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned
Synonyms:
vintage
antique
>>724142701
In economics and industrial design, planned obsolescence (also called built-in obsolescence or premature obsolescence) is the concept of policies planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life or a purposely frail design, so that it becomes obsolete after a certain predetermined period of time upon which it decrementally functions or suddenly ceases to function, or might be perceived as unfashionable.

>>724141162 (OP)
i watched the scotty episode of TNG yesterday, video games are like that. they just become obsolete over time, but the oldies maintain a certain charm new fangled badly optimized slop doesn't contain.

>>724142959
>In economics and industrial design, [...]
Not applicable to video games.

>>724143164
>erm acthually
this is the shit you linked (but in image form so less people would visit it because it's not clickable): https://bsky.app/profile/erasu.bsky.social/post/3m3kwej7aqk2g
it's no better in context either you fucking tendie ass kisser. he said films outlast games, and mentions virtual console as if he's aware it's a sad, inadequate replacement.
>>724143584
Videogames are vulnerable to the whims of the market same as any other product. And videogame console design IS industrial design,
>Industrial design is a process of design applied to physical products that are to be manufactured by mass production.

>>724142448
made it up

>>724143803
based

>>724143750
Go spam some more child porn about it you mentally ill faggot.

>>724143872
>tendie ignore their porn obsessed tendencies challenge
>difficulty level: impossible

>>724143932
Kill yourself already.

>>724143750
A game designed to be played on a PS5 will remain playable on a PS5. You heard the term somewhere and now you throw it around in an attempt to sound intelligent. It makes you look excessively stupid.

>>724143968
Do you have any arguments left or is it just gonna be shoolyard insults from here on?

>>724143872
>Post provided actual full quote with the source instead of more tiny snipets that don't actually say anything, and proper arguments
>No attempt at rebuttal, just inept seething
lol

>>724143872
>xhe's literally asking for it now

He is right. Games are a smaller niche than movies. If you release a game, most consumers will simply buy and play it in the first few months after its release; Afterwards, sales go down. Meanwhile, movies don't age and there is always an audience to reach at any time. A kid today can say "I want to see the Mario movie" just like 2 years ago

ah yes, nothing ages better than 2020s era western hollywood flicks.

>>724141162 (OP)
try watching the original theatrical releases of star wars

>>724143969
Nearly perfect emulators already exist for every console generation up until AT LEAST the 6th generation. Most of which are open source and licensed under GNU General Public Licenses. They would barely have to do any fucking work at all, just license what is already freely available. But they won't do that because they don't want the public to be aware that such emulator projects exist, let alone give them credit.
You could argue that this quadrillion dollar corporation somehow can't afford to develop an emulator themselves. But when there's a free option sitting right there and them not taking it, that's a choice. They don't want you to play your old games. They want to repackage them over and over with shitty ports and remakes so you keep buying the same shit over and over. And tendies keep falling for it hook, line and sinker.

>>724141162 (OP)
>twitter screencap of some random dude's quote
That doesn't prove you right.

>>724144017
Yeah, a cp spammer would be thinking about school yards huh.

>>724143750
>he said films outlast games
In a cultural context, you numbskull. Read the image YOU posted. Normalfags only want to play the newest versions of games, yet they will want to watch old movies.

>>724144342
Sure, but calling it "planned obsolence" is missing the mark.

>>724144496
refresh my memory, what esport community is most associated with kid diddling?
>>724144603
the joycons were notorious for stick drift, and they stuck with the old design for the sequel console. Don't tell me that wasn't a fucking choice designed to get people to buy more plastic chunks of crap

>>724141162 (OP)
2010 was 20 years ago, I think google says that's what defines retro.

>>724144791
according to >>>/vr/11702620 only 6th generation and earlier are considered retro on 4channel.org

>>724141454
>maybe thats because Nintendo does everything it can to make sure of that?
It's more that they're the only ones trying to stop it by actively rereleasing their games.

did the nintendo sycophants just forget they sued multiple emulator projects out of existence in the past few years alone? this is not a corporation that cares about game preservation.

>>724141162 (OP)
>games eventually stop running
Not with American amulation laws they don't. No thanks to you massive fucking faggots thoughbeit.

>>724145135
Americans don't ambulate. That's why they are so fat.

If only there was a way to emulate old games... well at least we have remakes :)

>>724144943
>rereleasing
they are just selling you the emulators they are shutting down

>>724145579
So rereleasing games doesn't count when Nintendo does it.

>>724141162 (OP)
The industry is ran by the worst possible people for maintaining and growing the industry.

They got a false boost from a mixture of BlackRock money, China entering the market, and accumulated goodwill from back when the industry knew what it was doing. Now that bubble is bursting.

>>724144890
I'm 99.99% certain that is gatekeeping to cultivate a certain person and vibe.

>>724145579
Worse actually, because their internally developed emulators are inaccurate pigshit compared to what fans have made.
>only nerds care about accuracy
In the Switch version the floor wasn't even reflective in the Shadow Link fight in Ocarina of Time. That directly affects the intended message of the scene. Because you're fighting your mirror self, the mirror floor was symbolic.
Even if you don't care, it's not what the original artist intended.
Also it just fucking looks worse.

>>724141162 (OP)
why do we call 20 year old games retro? We don't call movies or music from 20 years ago retro. Why is it so arbitrary for games?

>>724141162 (OP)
>stop selling old systems and games
>sue rom websites
>"old games just stop running and are lost to time. It can't be helped"

>>724144791
>>724146227
I don't think that retro is defined by a specific length of time. It's more that it belongs to a paradigm that's in the past. Some paradigms last five years. Others last 20. Some are very obvious when you leave. Others are subtle and only visible in retrospect. And at it basically never happens right at the turn of the decade.

I think that 2015 Japan was the end of a paradigm before it got back to its roots and also before isekai took off. Hopefully 2015 America will be remembered as a flurry of insanity that fell off its peak in 2023-ish and '25-'26 will be remembered as the last remnants fighting desperately to hang on and failing completely. The woke era is so ridiculous that people in a hundred years will wonder if it even actually happened.

>>724141162 (OP)
miyamoto is a corporate ghoul that hates preserving games

>>724141162 (OP)
Not really do you know how many have built up and refined their rom library the last few years? The mature intelligent gamer have pretty much pivoted away from western games with tard writing and solely play new non western games, older >2015 western games and then emulate console games. We don't need to buy another game for at least 2 decades.

>>724141162 (OP)
That quote is mistranslated
I looked up the actual interview and translated it myself
Miyamoto actually said:
“Fuck jannies”

>>724141162 (OP)
This man is completely demented, somebody put him in a retirement home.

>>724146227
we do you just don't see it because you're only interested in videogames

>>724146227
the answer is so obvious I dont even know why you are asking. We stopped calling old games retro once tech stagnated, people still happily play ps4 games.