Thread 724179161

I've seen enough.

GOTY 2025

>>724179161 (OP)
why are people so weirdly defensive about pokemon nowdays?

>>724179161 (OP)
why is sage a ban and why do idiots like OP post twitter screen grabs? we will never know.

>>724179331
they genuinely think nintendo is some childhood friend they need to protect instead of a faceless billion dollar company who'd do literally anything for a quick buck

>>724179161 (OP)
dogshit slop of the year award lmao

retards paid $70 for this shit

>>724179571
Is that how you used to see them schizobro?

>>724179331
It's an extremely bizarre form of cognitive dissonance to be sure. Like just because they liked Pokemon as a kid, it means they must like EVERYTHING Pokemon related ever made, lest their golden perfect memories become tarnished.

>>724179331
When you spam the catalog with anti-pokemon threads, you'll draw out the fans.

>>724179161 (OP)
This is actually embarrassing. Particularly for Nintendo fans. How they consistently prove that no matter what Nintendo does to smack them in their faces and shit in their mouths that they'll buy the games anyway is pathetic

>>724179331
It's actually the other way around, anon. People are chomping at the bit to be wrathful towards Z-A because it's trendy to do so, probably just parroting some youtuber opinion. The game is actually good, much better than SV and SwSh.

>>724179571
it's the opposite actually. nintendo fans know nintendo doesn't care about them, and that nintendo just does exactly what they say they'll do. its the haters who have a parasocial relationship with nintendo and think nintendo has a vendetta against them personally.

>>724179998
i wish i was the guy in that bed

>>724179161 (OP)
isn't that half of what SV did

>>724179161 (OP)
>sold less than legends Arceus

>>724180107
You sound like a Sonicfag

>>724180160
wow you must be the least delusional tendie

>>724179161 (OP)
thats a lot of shit eaters

>>724180223
You sound like a looshnigger parasite and an agent of the fucking demiurge, go crawling back into the fucking ether.

>>724180160
Bait.

>>724180160
>nintendo knows we'll eat up any slop thats why the haters are the bad ones
the absolute state

>>724179824
$100

Don't forget the DLC

>>724180303
What triggered you to post this?

>>724179161 (OP)
That would be funny but sorry tendies it’s called the Sony Awards for a reason.

>>724179331
>do it for free discord campaigns
>tons of shit posts, literally 10 threads at a time crying about like the textures or the city model or whatever
>billions of videos on youtube crying about the game from wannabe content creators
>this thread too
what are you actually talking about retard

>>724180107
>it's actually the other way around anon
>proceeds to be weirdly defensive about pokemon
Huh

>>724180332
>>724180372
>It's bait! It must be! It doesn't agree with the board "culture" I copy to fit in!
Genuinely kill yourself.

>>724180060
Comfort from familiarity and consistancy. Imagine being a casual gamer with literally no standards beyond the game doing few things right and having a thing you love. Thats the kind of mindset your working with here. Its so easy to ignore every problem when your satisfactions hinges on so few things.

>>724180439
Look how defensive you got over pokemon, this is what he was talking about

>>724180481
>Huh? Huh!? Huh??? What??? WHUH? I'M SUCH A FUCKING RETARD I CAN'T COHERENTLY STATE ANYTHING I'M SO FILLED WITH IRONY AND SHITPOSTING I'VE GONE PAST BEING A HUMAN.

>>724180515
What satisfaction?

>>724180483
please don't call his schizophrenic headcanon "board culture"

>>724180483
yea keep defending your favourite gorillion dollar company you yourself said doesn't give two shits about its customers
keep eating the slop like a good piggy
>>724180670
he even had to samefag LMAO

>>724180160
Not really, I think haters just want to laugh at you people who keep giving Nintendo money despite them not caring about you and doing exactly what they said they'll do (sell $100 games with 20 hours of content).

>>724180801
I've told you multiple times not to respond to me. I'm ok with responses in general but I know who you are and you know who I am so this is an intentional act. I will fucking make you regret this if you continue.

If the haters are the ones obsessed with Nintendo, then why are we in yet another thread gloating about the game's sales? This is like the 50th one today, not counting the famitsu spam that's been going since thursday.

>>724180852
Who cares about me so i can give them money?

>>724180107
>much better than SV and SwSh.
That's not a high bar, your standards are sad

>>724179331
>defensive
You mean aggressive. PLA didn't have this much of a seethefest.

>>724181002
That was before Palworld doebeit.

>>724180385
fuck
more dishes

>>724180107
You know both camps can be faggots right? In any case I’m more willing to side with the detractors when the subject in question is the most profitable IP in the world. For fuck sales Pokemon has its own board here

>>724179331
Because part of the fanbase finally realized how fucking shit the games became and started complaining, but the rest of the fanbase is horrified by the idea of criticizing gamefreak, so they got defensive

>>724180060
expect no less from a literal cult

>>724181059
The games have only gotten better though.

>>724180852
see, you faggots can't resist lying. assuming you're talking about Pokemon its a $60 game, $70 for SW2 version. counting a DLC expansion that isn't out yet in the price is outright lying especially when tons of games nowadays are $200+ if you're gonna count DLC but nobody does unless its to shit on nintendo.

>>724181126
Team Cope

THIS IS HOW WE NINTEN-DO IT

>>724181034
Which means this shitflinging is artificial.

>>724180902
>y-you'll regret this
He typed calmly

>>724181258
We don't sign our posts here.

>>724180910
anon, this and at least half the famitus threads are made by haters because they need places to shitpost.

>>724181295
Now you're pretending to be something else. Please stop playing games with me.

>>724179161 (OP)
E33fags in shambles

>>724181276
Yes that's the whole point.

>>724181235
I'm counting the DLC because you will buy it anyway. Unless you're so satisfied with what you got with ZA that you don't want more, which I doubt because you bought ZA in first place.
Also, name one $200 game counting its content DLC that's as short as ZA is.

i think people bought it in fear the nintendo would sue them if they didn't

>>724181331
So what are the fans doing in these threads? Shouldn't they be ignoring the threads and playing the games?

>>724181348
>please stop playing games with me
He asked to another anon kindly

lol
lmao

I think youtube needs another adpocalypse nut tap to clean up house

>>724181037
fucking kek

>>724181732
People make straight up lies and baits like this and then wonder wow why do the people who actually play the games say i am wrong and bully me :((

>>724181363
what the fuck makes someone this spastic?

>>724181810
So you mean it's not $70?

>>724181461
I think pretty much any Koei game will get you there.

Marnie best girl

>>724181810
you sound like a butthurt faggot
typical nintoddller behavior lmao

>>724181893
>>724181928
Case in point.

>>724181893
yeah, it's $60

>>724181928
i too am extremely gullible and retarded. any sghitpost that validates my opinion is real

>>724179161 (OP)
Well there you have it. Now what fellow gamers?

>>724181810
>gee, i wonder why pigs love slopping up their favourite slop
You think pokefags have standards?

>>724179331
Lack of spirituality results in projection of the anima into corpo slop projects

>>724182027
you post kluieke a rabid dog and you will die like a rabid dog

>>724181964
it's $70

>>724182027
Try that again without buzzwords.

>>724180670
this is, in the most literal sense, the epitome of /v/

>>724179331
nintendo adults

>>724182027
>You think pokefags have standards?
Of course, they rejected Shitnova after all.

>>724181985
>sghitpost

bro is literally shaking while typing lmao

>>724181037
>>724181272
>>724181363
good god nintendopes are literally braindead

>>724182234
bro is
bro was
bro will
bro thus
bro when
bro who
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
fuck it i wanna post cunny so im posting cunny you will not deter me demon

>>724182116
>gee i wonder why these pokemon fanatics pay premium prices for the latest subpar product
You think a person that buys a game based on pikachu being present or not has standards?

>>724181363
i laughed at the inflatable mario man lmfao.

>>724182389
bro is a pedo
how fitting

>>724182431
yeah bro 2d drawings are pedo man i also are incapable of distinguishing a drawing from reality haha eyah

>>724182498
pedo cope

>>724182389
"i am pushing 40 and i am a pedophile"

>>724182581
looshnigger cope

>>724180107
>better than shit from an ass and poop from a butt
Very impressive

>>724181964
So you mean the Switch 2 version doesn't exist?

>>724182716
You have a Switch 2?

>>724182716
that's the one i got for $60 anon, the base game was $50 since i used a voucher.

>>724182581
you know you conviced me i would go around trying to convice all 2d loli fans to go for real kids instead

>>724179161 (OP)
That's about a half of Legends Arceus total sales
Holy shit!

Dont care still having a blast playing it on my switch 2

>>724182757
You don't? Why are you poor?
>>724182818
>I got the game with a discount so the real price doesn't exist
I see

>>724182898
So you do have Switch 2?

>>724182943
Why would I ever buy any Nintendo console?

>>724180107
He's right you know.

>>724182898
the "real price" is $60 anon, anything more than that is something you chose to pay extra, whether that's the $10 upgrade pack or the $30 DLC.

>>724183095
Oh so you don't? Why are you looking to buy Switch 2 games then? Sounds kinda stupid no?

>>724182842
you would

>>724179331
>3 weeks of "cut all pokemon fans throat OR ELSE"
>game release, is still ok
>OMG DEFENSIVE MUCH MOOOOOOOOOOODS THEY ARE RUINING MY BOARD

>>724183137
Where did I say anything about looking to buy Switch 2 games? I'm here only to laugh at ZA being a shit game and the cult buying it anyway.
>>724183120
Why would you NOT buy the S2 version if you have a S2? Sounds stupid to buy a console and then choose not to buy games made with it in mind.

Are Pokemonfags the biggest consoomers of all time?

>>724183261
Why would the price matter if you weren't going to buy the game? Sounds kinda stupid, like crying about Ferrari prices.

>>724183120
it's atlus tier greed, tendietroon

>pokemon fans
why dont they make better pokemon games?
>also pokemon fans
buy up whatever puked out shit they put out even if its objectively garbage

>>724183345
Every new Pokemon game has been better than the last though.

>>724183261
>Why would you NOT buy the S2 version if you have a S2?
because the framerate bump isn't worth $10 to you?
>Sounds stupid to buy a console and then choose not to buy games made with it in mind.
Legends ZA is a switch 1 game made with the switch 1 in mind, so i'm not sure why you're even bringing this up on the topic of ZA.

I will never understand how grown adults could care about this shit or garbage like Harry Potter.

>they only had a budget of 13 million guys
cool make the game not full price then.

>>724183410
video games in general shouldn't be touched by any self respecting adult

>>724183334
lol, if this game was made by atlus the nature changing mints would cost $2.99 each, and gold bottle caps would be $4.99

>>724183518
nah - art like E33 is made for adults
pokrnon is made for children

It's been crazy to watch the average anon's argumentative skills devolve to that of a dumb broad. Worse, even.

Put an attractive man next to something and you like it, put an ugly man next to something and you'll spend the next week seething about it in secret.

>>724183326
Because the argument here is not whether I'm going to buy the game or not, it's about the game's price in comparison to its content, and how there's someone saying the $70 version (which is the one that got more than half of those 5.8 million sales by the way) doesn't exist.
if you don't believe me, here's the post that started it all: >>724180852
Please learn how to argue properly the next time you post ok.

>>724179893
yummy! more please!

>>724183725
That says 100 which is also a lie albeithowever. Maybe you just dont have an argument.

>>724183389
bloody second life has better graphics than this entry what the hell are you talking about?

>>724183280
Let's be real that's a pretty sick looking cheeto

>>724183842
Graphics don't matter.

>>724180107
You're right, it is better than SV and SwSh
But that is giving it the award for the shiniest poop
I don't watch any pokemon content besides some autistic shit like obscure gen 4 glitches, I just played the game and went "yep its mediocre" and I wish pokemon had a higher standard than this

>>724179331
They are subhumans
That's why
When religion died these niggers latched to other things
That's literally their religion
Saying pokeshit is shit it's literally blasphemy to them

>>724183567
$30 day one dlc for real content is worse than what atlus does.

>>724183961
DLC comes out next year. Try again.

>>724183841
Here's a lesson on basic math:
70+30=100
Hopefully you won't make this mistake again in the future.

>>724184024
It's 60 though.

>>724183935
>it's shit but i didn't play it i just heard it's shit
What possesses you to even post this dogshit?

>>724179331
Because for some 'people' they've based their entire identities on nintendo products. If they fail then how does that make THEM look!?

>>724184065
If the game is $60 then at least 2.9 million of the sales mentioned in the OP don't count.
lmao what a flop

>>724184152
You are rarted.

>>724184152
>still more than Digimon
Pretty good sales, and Christmas isn't even here yet!

>>724179161 (OP)
OK, now show the amount of returned copies.

>>724184079
I just said I played it anon
Did most of the dex, post-game stuff
Whatever they were trying to do didn't really pan out

>>724179161 (OP)
If this game is as bad as /v/ claims how come all the screenshots of it look so soulful?
Have any of you even played it? Surely you at least emulated it before forming an opinion, right?

>>724183615
>nah - art like E33
lol

>>724184280
no.

>>724184337
Damn...

>>724184290
Its kino.

>>724184335
cope lol
you're just mad it isn't on the Shitch

>>724183637
i dont even know if its ironic. I dont know what the word for it is anymore. you dont even have to have an image- theyll just immediately claim the opinion they dont like came from someone "brown" as is the buzzword of this era.

fully grown white men going on the internet and calling each other brown over videogame graphics. fucking state of the place.

>>724184335
nta but im not sure what you're laughing at, E33 is better than every nintendo game released since the turn of the millennium

>>724181037
Odds are he's happier than any of the miserable faggots using this board. Good for him.

>>724179331
Because it's the highest grossing media franchise ever. If something is THAT popular, it's doing something right. I mean, why would anyone criticize something THIS popular?

>>724179161 (OP)
>>724179331
>>724179893
"But Z-A's success is eclipsed by Pokemon Scarlet/Violet, which sold an eye-watering 10 million copies within its first week. Z-A's launch sales were also beaten by Pokemon Legends: Arceus, which sold 6.5 million copies, and Pokemon Sword/Shield and Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl, which both sold 6 million."
https://archive.is/GmA8N

>>724184401
Post your E33 save file.

>>724181002
Maybe because PLA was actually good? ZA is a complete downgrade

>>724180107
Shills at full force

i never played a nintendo game iml they all look like baby slop

The only arguments retards have against the game are:

>I didn't read anything pre-release and got angry the game took place inside Lumiose City
>I didn't watch any trailers and bought the game not knowing the buildings are flat (which triggers my graphical autism)

There's no intellectually honest argument against Z-A this thread because all arguments are based around a product that shown all its flaws from the start and everyone bought knowing all that. Gamefreak didn't trick anyone into buying the game or hid important technical information. Manchildren are just seething that Pokémon is popular and people loved the game as if Pokémon was a political party or something. Just move on.

>No iconic moments/locations like Pokémon Tower, Giovanni as the 8th gym leader, Red on Mt. Silver, the drought/flood, the entirety of the creation trio lore, characters like N or Ghetsis, etc.
>No one cares about region's pokedex
>New Megas are glorified meme shit but have no passionate fans
>No talk of secrets in Lumiose or ways to diverge from the main path
>No images showcasing the soul present in the art style
I guess my NDS is clouding my vision of this new Pokemania we're living under.

>>724184618
>There's no intellectually honest argument against Z-A this thread
Mabel's research: pokemon battles drops this game down 1 full letter grade. There's your first actual criticism of this game for the thread.

>>724184596
liking a game isn't what a shill is

>>724179331
>>724181002
They would've if they had as many games to play as they have now, though I'm sure someone will write an entire essay trying to explain why it's someone else's fault they have so much free time.

>>724184618
Here's some critiques:

>the gameplay lacks challenge and combat is once again too easy, it didn't fix the core flaw of the series
>there's way too much story and characters talk way too much, it's essentially a snoy movie in length
>exploration sucks
>the city is poorly designed with nothing interesting
>they have the audacity to cut out content and resell it later

How's that?

>>724184760
its a tedious grind, but the shiny charm shouldn't be easy to get.

A quarter of nintendo shillers are paid to do so.
Remember exactly WHY they removed the IP counter.

>>724184546
>save file

lol that's not how it works nintoddller

>>724184841
1000 is absurd. It should be 500, 600 at most. You literally just need to blast Le Nah for like 10 hours. Not good.

>>724184846
mmmph yes daddy ill listen to whatever you say~

>>724184929
i can agree with that, although i think they expect you to climb the infinite ZA royale to do it. iirc there's a side quest hidden behind rank 20 anyway.

>>724184847
>186 hours on parry slop
Wow that's just sad.

All of the praise that this game is getting feels so fake
Did I accidentally play the wrong game?

>>724179571
this
especially japan
they take every criticism of nintendo personally
boomers with shares gaslighting the entire country into worship japanese corpos

>>724184589
>turnbased
>no online
No, its not.

>>724180551
havent played a pokemon game in years
but the anti-pokemon faggots like yourself are obnoxious dweebs and need to be stuffed in lockers.

>>724179331
Defensive? The entire launch week of the game was nonstop hatred from people who didn't play it and probably don't even own a Switch.

>>724179161 (OP)
>Lower than PLA's first week sales (6.5m)
Sad

>>724180607
huh?

>>724185068
jelly as fuck

>>724185226
wwha???

>>724185080
Praise? The game's getting review bombed and saying anything postive about it leads to flame wars.

>>724185068
Pretty hollow statement in a thread about support for a game whose great stride forwards is adding a dodge roll button.

>>724184847
>barely 200 hours of content
weak

>>724184381
cringe

>>724184847
based

>>724184280
Anon I like the game and I haven’t finished the post game shit because I work full time if you hate the game and play more than me you’re a RETARD

>>724184618
I've gone over my criticisms in more appropriate, less shitposty threads
It's basically in total that the music is good, but nothing else is quite there. The gameplay in isolation is fine, some rough edges, but the progression is pretty bad, as are the story and presentation. The setting makes no sense either. Was glad to have megas back, but I can't say I care for the large majority of the new designs.
Very much a budget side game used for employee training

>>724183615
Imagine calling any videogame art to a group of working men KEK.

>>724185339
what's pathetic is that screenshot
how embarrassing

>>724181059
>be a jaded 35 year old who doesn't like video games anymore
>still bitch and complain about kids games on the internet
>wonder why people find you annoying

>>724185181
>turnbased
Beats whatever shit battle system that ZA tried going for

>no online
This was a good thing. Now you're forced to grind for FOM rewards if you want to 100%. Also, why the fuck would anyone want to play that garbage battle system online? Shit will die as fast as LGPE's and BDSP's online multiplayer did

PLA started a great concept but then PLZA went 100 steps back and gave us a shitty mainline but not actually mainline title. I still can't fucking believe that your only tool of movement is the fucking rotom jump, even fucking SV had actual movement options

>>724185254
These threads are constantly filled with shills and faggots unironically believing that any kind of negative opinions is solely thanks to faggotubers. They refuse to believe that the game is genuine shit

>>724185423
tell em hard working man! >>724181037

>>724185339
Shit I kneel

>>724185339
>>724185565
man nintoddllers really do love shovelslop

>>724181059
>my opinion is universal truth, you can't possibly disagree with me, you must be scared of gamefreak
You're a narcissist.

>>724179161 (OP)
Big deal. Palworld has sold over 30 million copies and the game isn't even out yet.

>>724185339
I'm actually impressed. Do you mostly play Pokemon games? Do you dabble in nuzlockes and rom hacks as well?

>>724185695
It died before it came out? Grim honestly.

>>724185423
Imagine thinking that the opinions of retarded cattle matter.

>>724185704
>romhacks
Aaaaand here comes the PC vegans

>>724181363
>ywn have enough money to pay some dude to wear a mario costume 24/7

Decaying popularity, didnt multiple other pokemon games sell way more?

palworld really did put a curse on pokemon

>>724179161 (OP)
I don't get made about this stuff anymore I just think how based the company is for exploiting mouth breathers. I really wish they'd up the price to $100 next time consumers should be milked into complete poverty.

>>724185704
I don't play romhacks but i do play randomizers on emulators. I also do play other games on my PC.

>>724185794
You're a subhuman beneath cattle I'm afraid.

>>724185231
You think I don't have a PC, Anon? Some of us have better things to do than waste it on parryslop, sorry.

>>724179161 (OP)
Pokémon fans are the Disney Adults of gaming culture.

Everyone outside looking in knows they’re fucking embarrassing to look upon, but they don’t notice because they live with their head under the sand in their fandom. Nice safe echo chambers with no challenging thoughts.

>>724185802
Hacked consoles can play those. So can chinkhelds.

>>724185884
Oh neat, yeah randomizers seem fun.

>>724185869
The curse was so powerful it revived Digimon.

>>724185927
>Disney Adults
what caused this term to pop up so much recently?

>>724185802
It's been years but I still don't know what "PC vegan" is even supposed to mean

>>724185794
>cattle
Such a weird word that's suddenly entered the lexicon, especially when the people that use it seem to travel and think in herds

>>724185973
>Hacked consoles can play those. So can chinkhelds.
Brown poorfag hands typed this post

>>724186057
The samefagging schizo learned a new term to spam.

>>724179161 (OP)
why are people so weirdly offensive about pokemon nowdays?

>>724186001
In reality
>Digimon - 7 years for 23k sales

>>724186110
You mean your post? I know.

>>724186201
Oh, so it's just Eric again? He must have evacuated the famitsu thread lmao

>>724179161 (OP)
The bar is underground at this point but PLZA is still the best looking and running Pokemon game we've had to date. It looks like an early PS3 game in some areas even.

>>724186220
SV sucked and it became popular to hate on pokemon by default, even if it makes a step forward.

what's more embarrassing
disney adults or pokemon adults

>>724186318
>even if it makes a step forward.
What's the step forward? I can post my 20 hour long save file if you want, I'm genuinely curious because I haven't seen a single step forward in ZA during my entire playthrough

>>724186347
Snoys.

>>724186347
Faggots spamming the board and watching sloptubers

>>724180107
Literally every single faggy youtuber is spamming their socials calling PZA the greatest game ever created, and only using some random spanish dude crying about megas as their focal point for targeted criticism.

>>724186081
its based on the old joke
>How do you know someone is a vegan?
>they'll tell you.
PCfags used to be similarly obnoxious about playing on PC, haven't seen it as much lately, but i'm sure its still a thing in threads i don't go to.

>>724184824
>Fair argument but this is an argument relevant to every Pokémon game. There has been news articles about japanese fans complaining about high difficulty in certain parts so this is up interpretation.
>It comes with the genre but you could bend this argument into the lack of skippable cutscenes which I would fully agree.
>Subjective but you could think that since it might affect your experience with the city.
>Subjective, there are certainly a lot of objectives and things to do. If they're interesting is up to the player but you would have to come up with city activities that would catch your interest.
>Not really true, the average consumer wouldn't know that but Gamefreak actually internally splits projects between main game and DLC. So the DLC was not meant for the main game at all.

By the way, I think the 3rd and 4th ones are the most easily agreeable critiques of yours. The two first ones would feel honest if it didn't come up from someone with experience with Pokémon and the last one is bullshit.

>>724186398
>>724186420
>already mentioning boogeymans
Do disney adults also have boogeymans of their own? Do they yell dreamwokies or something retarded whenever someone insults their garbage?

>>724186057
>what caused this term to pop up so much recently?
It's the new ragebait for social media algorithms. Nothing will piss you off like seeing an obese millennial prancing through Disneyland wearing Mickey Mouse ears.

>>724179331
Because Pokemon sucks and there's a ton to defend.

There's a star in the sky...

>>724186496
>Not really true, the average consumer wouldn't know that but Gamefreak actually internally splits projects between main game and DLC. So the DLC was not meant for the main game at all.
So considering how the main game cost nothing to make, why can't they make the DLC free?

>>724186682
Because the point of products is to make money.

>>724186226
Don’t play coy anon. It is a shock they made another game as a trial at all. It would’ve been like hell freezing over if it came back right into mainstream.

>>724186682
why should the devs work for free? you aren't suggesting they not pay their staff right? you aren't some kind of pro-corporate bootlicker who WANTS more exploitation of developers, right?

>>724186081
Seems to me like an argument by a severely-obese person. The annoyment against vegans is that they don't consume meat. Somehow this powerful weapon makes sense when used again PC gamers because them emulating everything is somehow playing less?

>>724184847
based firefox user

>>724186785
Isn't that why you guys hate sony and microsoft, though? Making money is objectively evil.

>>724184824
>>there's way too much story and characters talk way too much, it's essentially a snoy movie in length
It's even worse when they animate the mothflaps and put in other diegetic noises but voice acting is too much to ask. There are thousands of text boxes and the spoken dialogue is almost as excessive as Persona.

>>724179550
You mean announcing a sage? Cause obnoxious faggots would just spam sage over and over.

>>724186901
I don't have schizophrenia so i have no idea what you are talking about.

>>724186487
It's this. It used to be pc gamers were like vegans in behavior, as they would butt in on every game conversation to try and get other people to convert.

>>724186857
>why should the devs work for free
The love of money is the root of all evil. They should be happy to work for free. Only evil scummy companies like sony or microsoft or steam would want to maximize profit.

>>724179550
sage doesn't even work anymore

>>724186998
how convenient for your corporate overlords that employees are expected to be "good people who don't care about money" while CEOs are allowed to be dragons hoarding wealth.

>>724187173
If they don't like it, then go work somewhere else.

>>724179161 (OP)
just vote with your wallet, bros

>>724179161 (OP)
Were never getting a good Pokemon game again, are we?

>>724186998
mentality of a retard
would you work for free?

>>724187338
You just posted a good game though.

>>724187338
OH LAWD HE COMIN

>>724187338
kek, same shit happened with my alpha Loppuny, those niggers didn't even bother playtesting their own fucking game

>>724187338
We just got one, hopefully the next can keep up, if not be even better

>>724187408
>starmie stuck on the stairs
>good

>>724187338
>normal person: haha it’s too big that’s funny
>autist: NOOOOOOOOO WHERE IS THE QA

>>724187282
congratulations you just created the western games industry where everybody with talent quits and your studios end up worthless 3 years after they make their first good game.

>>724187540
>big Pokémon have a big hitbox

>>724187389
The 4chan janitors work for free, and they keep the website up and running.

That's nice, I bet if you ask them for a source you'll get blocked.

>>724185339
How tf do you get 520 hours out of BSDP
Shiny hunting?

>>724187338
This would make a hilarious gag for the anime. Even an after credits joke where it's still trying to run up the stairs.
There was another clip where Krokorok clipped through the wild zone barrier, and spent 50 seconds trying to get back inside. You could see the code panicking in real time.

>>724187338
Youtuber!!!!!!

>>724187630
this is not an excuse

>>724187603
Maybe they shouldn't be bloodthirsty leeches who only care about profit.

>>724187804
>i wants devs to have to work a second job so they cant put all of their focus into the game they are making
this is how stupid you sound

>>724187785
Baring the first part where the model does not match the collision at all when going up the stairs, why would you expect our poor, heroic company to simply animat it bending over or adjusting to enter things? You're literally worse than a Zionist.

>>724185695
Those were players on gamepass you retard

>>724187990
>i wants devs to have to work a second job so they cant put all of their focus into the game they are making
Sounds like a skill issue. Suffer for your passion.

>>724187804
you've got that backwards. employees are by definition motivated by profit, you pay them for their work. you faggots trying to flip that around are fucked in the head. why would people show up to work if you aren't going to pay them? it's called "work" because its not something you just do for fun.

*SSSSSHHHHHBLUUURRRBLUUURRRBLUUURRRSHSHSHSHBLUUURRR*

>>724188076
people have to eat you moron

>>724187540
Just call it back into ball and throw out again?

>>724188043
it actually is a pretty crazy thing to ask, that the devs make ~300 unique animations for pokemon to squeeze through narrow areas and climb up narrow stairs because of all the different anatomies pokemon have.

>>724187408
>>724187414
>>724187562
Amazing, SV managed to properly educate the fanbase into believing that bugs are actually a good thing

Forced expshare is good, lack of postgame is good, national dex cut is good, bugs are good. Shit is so bad that I can't even make a prediction of ways that gen 10 will further lobotomize pokefags.

>>724188094
>>724188169
>it's called "work" because its not something you just do for fun.
Funny, indie devs would often work for free all the time. Even the ones that have a price tag will spend decades putting out free content just because they feel like it. Look at Stardew Valley for example.

Sounds like a skill issue to me.

>>724187741
Yeah man.

>>724188175
stop making excuses for shoddy design

doug is acting like a commie again

>>724188260
Mega Starmie is an excellent design.

>>724188313
>Valve is le bad for making money off of steam market and hats
>BUT IT'S GOOD WHEN OTHER COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE MONEY

>>724188214
They cut Pokemon partially to avoid unique animations, but if the poor, overworked animators couldn't animate it, what does that have to do with just make the Pokemon phase through things to avoid the issues?

>>724188218
Every game has bugs anon.

>>724188393
I don't remember saying that.

>>724188353
>Patrick star but blue

>>724188175
You can't even do that most of the time, the game loves shoving a huge ass switching cooldown if you decide to use a move. I use a move against a mon, my mon moves to my position to perform the move because I don't fucking know, its gets stuck in some random ass mesh, he proceeds to move in place for 10 seconds before finally deciding to launch the move from that spot while I am completely prevented from switching
I got tired and now I face tank enemy mons with my actual playable character just to prevent that shit from happening again. Brilliant battle system

>>724188527
Patrick star is very iconic and loved.

>>724179161 (OP)
I don't really care but it'd be funny to see. Imagine the seethe.

>>724188552
Position issue.

>>724188221
they do that in hopes of one day doing it for a living are you retarded or does mommy serve you all your meals so you dont know how life works yet?

>>724188258
Nice. I never had the attention span to shiny hunt lol

>>724179161 (OP)
nortubel lost

>>724188424
Nothing is perfect, thats why you were born, you obtuse hack.

>>724188768
Such is life man.

Pokemon killed my dog

>>724188641
Yeah, my bad for not knowing that my faggot mon couldn't climb up the 1 feet high elevation that I was standing on when giving the command
I learned how the game works though, so now my trainer simply eats all of the nuke moves just to maintain a good position

>>724179161 (OP)
>This game fucking sucks
>Buys it anyway
Why are poketards like this?

>>724188860
Well, it's better than the previous bad game.
That's worthy of supporting.

I don't know man, same thing with other nintendo IP's where people will buy trash just because it's associated with their childhood.

>>724188674
>they do that in hopes of one day doing it for a living
And their lust for money ruins the industry. What a shock.

>>724189030
>Well, it's better than the previous bad game.
SV is better

>>724187338
It wasn't already obvious enough after XY came out?

>>724189096
so how do you propose a dev feeds themselves?

>>724189260
That's not my problem.

>>724189407
you are a child

>>724186347
I don't typically interact with Disney adults so I don't know what general behavior you can expect from them but Pokemon adults radiate the same energy as that bullied kid who, when called a faggot, starts hitting on their bullies thinking that it's good comeback. At least Disney, for as strange as they can be sometimes, come more across as relatively stable adults with jobs and spouses while Pokemon adults have now entered the phase where their only defense at the never-ending but justified criticism that they keep enabling slop is to double down in being freaks in the hopes that the people just get sick of bullying them.

>>724189131
SV does some things better like story and player freedom. but overall PLZA has less game-ruining flaws.

>>724189507
Getting a lot of fag energy from this post

>>724188218
well adjusted people can look at something like that, laugh and move on because this isn't their first video game or even their first video game developed by game freak
karens might start complaining and demanding their money back
whatever the fuck this online hysteria is that is coming from people who don't even play the game is absolutely subhuman
whole party exp share is a great quality of life feature
trying to run a full party in black/white without any kind of exp share was mind numbing
none of the pokemon games are difficult 6 years olds were beating rby with no issues and no internet
sending out a pokemon and switching every battle is retarded design
it being forced or optional I have no opinion on as games where you could turn it off I never bothered to
nobody who plays pokemon has ever said that post game is bad
there are over a thousand pokemon at this point and SV has like 90% of them in the game
ZA is a low effort and low risk spin off where GF can try something new and is meant to keep people busy until the next mainline game
bugs that have zero effect on your playthrough, that don't fuck with your save or prevent you from progressing in the game are generally a complete non issue

>>724188068
So it counts
Seems like a W

>>724189541
>but overall PLZA has less game-ruining flaws.
That's solely because PLZA is so fucking nothing

>>724180009
What anti pokemon threads all i’ve been seeing is gooner bait threads from them more than discussion

>>724179161 (OP)
pokemon is the japanese call of duty. zero surprise

So I was told that pokemon doesn't check if pokemon come from a pirated ROM/game. if so do you think that when switch 2 emu becomes a reality we will be able to acess online stuff from it?

I am asking cuz I clearly remember when I was playing Dying Light(pirated) I had some sort of online event bothering me in the mission selection screen.

Oh laso, there is currently a fem ralts to claim in AZ online due to the gardevoir short.

>>724179893
Tell us what goyslop you consoom so that you may approve of our consooming of said goyslop.

>>724179161 (OP)
That be so fucking funny. Now I want that to happen.

>>724185387
I guess food critics and inspectors are retards as well since its their job to check the quality of things just like game reviewers and the audience its their job to dictate if it its bad or god

>>724189725
>trying to run a full party in black/white without any kind of exp share was mind numbing
>none of the pokemon games are difficult 6 years olds were beating rby with no issues and no internet
read
>the game was easy as shit for 6 year olds, so making it 300% easier is completely fucking justified because... it just is okay?

>>724190250
I hope you don't actually follow any food critics seriously.

>>724189978
>pokemon doesn't check if pokemon come from a pirated ROM/game
its not that they don't check, its that its really fucking easy to beat the checks because pokemon still use a save data structure from the game boy era.

>>724189725
That is a big wall of cope to defend a very low effort game. Didn't read btw.

>>724190389
ehhh half half. They don't check if the pokemon comes from a pirated rom from the most famous piracy sites(somehow) but they WILL know if you cheated the pokemon with pkhex(or whatever)

>>724190414
Not like detractors could read anyway, you still parrot the 1 city model.

>>724190472
>but they WILL know if you cheated the pokemon with pkhex
only if you're retarded and do something like make a starter the prof gave you that was in a cherish ball.

>>724190503
The game is terrible and you have no standards.

>>724190639
Moon is made of cheese and dinosaurs are still living with us.

>>724190305
eliminating the need to do the dance because you didn't rotate through your whole party is an improvement yes
fighting wild pokemon for experience is a waste of time

>>724190351
No shit i take their advice if they say a restaurant is in bad condition or if the food has the potential to poison the eater or make them sick and its up to the listener to decide if they want to go there or not you retard

>>724190773
Show 5 latest places where your favorite critic said the food was poisonous.

>>724180107
>People are chomping at the bit to be wrathful towards Z-A because it's genuinely a shitty product with less care put into it than Sonic 06.

>>724190773
>no, anon, stop!
>didn't you listen to asmongold?
>you will DIE if you play the new pokemon game!

>>724179331
>nowdays

>>724179161 (OP)
>5.8 mil
>.7 less mil than legends arceus at 6.5 mil in its first
Holy fvck it's over for pokemon...

>>724179331
People will say it's because they do the same shit over and over again and is one of the slowest evolving game series of all time, but no; it's because there is no more egregious case of Pokémon's bullshit in the entirety of human entertainment, and I mean that shit literally.

Pokédrones insisted for a decade and a half the reason it's so slow to evolve is because it's a budget series. The profound irony in this statement is that Pokémon is the single most profitable IP in the history of entertainment. Humans have collectively never made a fictional universe ever that makes more money than Pokémon. It makes more money than Spongebob, Harry Potter, Fortnite and Minecraft. Literally any other franchise to out innovate Nintendo and Gamefreak did it on a tighter budget. Pokémon is made on a budget because Nintendo is cheap and Gamefreak is too prideful, that's it, that's all there is to it.

>>724179161 (OP)
I preordered it thinking I might play it at some point.
Best Buy fucked up and gave me three (3) preorder bonus things.

>>724181810
Where’s the lie?

>>724179161 (OP)
I think what people have to remember is, games don't necessarily have to be technically proficient (e.g. grafix) or even well designed gameplay wise in order for people to like them.

Minecraft started out as a 3d voxel based lego building simulator/absolute barebones survival alpha game and it still became one of the more successful franchises in the world without even progressing that much further than that.

To this day, kids will pick up a stick in the woods and enjoy swishing it around like a sword, just because something about it is fun, despite the fact that its quite literally just a muddy twig.

People just like Pokemon

>>724190767
>fighting wild pokemon for experience is a waste of time
well yeah, trainers give more XP.

>>724190874
Where tf did i say favorite critic i said if a critic says if "a restaurant has the potential to poison or cause them to get sick" because most restaurants in America don’t usually follow all the protocols and usually don’t clean their restaurant like one time i went to cici’s pizza and it was infested with a bunch of house flies in the kitchen and dining area and this time i went to a mexican restaurant and there was a dead rat in a corner which is why im going to take some critic reviews with face value despite even if the food is good

>>724185692
lol

>>724191402
Damn that's crazy, anyway no dead rats found here.

>>724191454
The image doesn't address anything I said third world bro.

>>724191335
Don't get why they do this.
Cleanness would be one thing IF power washers didn't exist.

>>724179161 (OP)
Pokemon is objectively bad. Look at new horizons. animal crossing doesn't even have 1/100 the worth of pokemon as a franchise yet the game sells more. the game sales are mediocre for a 1st party nintendo title.

>>724191624
Sounds like Horizons and Animal Crossing just arent as good as Pokemon.

>>724179571
>nintendo
Game Freak.

Nintendo is literally out there in leaked documents begging GF to let them help make pokeman games or even let SE or other Japanese companies help them with technicals / graphics so they look or run better and they simply refuse.

Nintendo is basically stuck having to give them that old "Nintendo Seal of Quality" meme from the old days because they only partly own pokemon even if GF quality is shite comparative to normal Nintendo products.

>>724191513
>ign score as proof of good

>>724191894
Suddenly food critics don't matter?

finally a reputable reviewer I can trust thank you for your service felipe the pesos should arrive on your account by monday

>>724191932
not if they have a horrible reputation

>>724191624
New Horizons is an outlier because it literally came out the weekend the WHO declared Covid-19 a global pandemic. The next Animal Crossing could sell 20 million copies and /v/ will still insist it underperformed because NH sold 50 million.

>>724191513
Thing is i never said you couldn’t try to experience it but i also know damn well this isn’t 100% true since there’s barely any clarification and on a second note why tf would you take ign reviews seriously they’re literally the shittiest reviewers in mankind right behind the one that shouldn’t be named

>>724192049
IGN are well respected.

>>724191823
New Horizons sold more than the last 3 pokemon games at 48 million.

>>724191865
Oh yeah, They gotta find a way out of that cuck hole though. just look at how many people blame nintendo despite the leaks.

Like there's gotta be a way for nintendo to get more control over game freak, maybe they could buy the entire company?

>>724179161 (OP)
wont even be mentioned at the game awards

>>724192114
Have they tapped into the merch market, where Pokemon makes most of its money?

6m for pokemon? What happened?

>>724192110
not even close they are well known for laughably inaccurate review scores

>>724192276
True it should be way higher but oh well.

>>724192117
>buy out the biggest IP on the planet
Literal never ever.

>>724192318
play better games and your standards will raise

>>724192421
Like?

>>724192410
>this was 1 year ago
man, time flies.

>>724180107
people enjoyed arceus
I know, it sounds crazy, but if you look at the scores and how people reacted to it, this is clearly different, there's always going to be a loud minority, but now the game is clearly just shit and most people simply don't look at it the same way

not that it matters, pokemon is a brand for millenial women to play doll with, not an RPG, and it's been that way for decades

>>724181272
that's actually pretty good, that's an insane balance right there and he must've trained pretty hard to reach this level
now here's to hoping he puts as much effort into his less pointless skills, and he'll have a good life

>>724192669
Arceus came before Palworld and youtuber hate though.

>>724184618
>There are no criticisms against the game because I’m a slop-loving nigger!
Uh-huh…

>>724192467
Silk Song
Palworld
Digimon
Persona/SMT
Any Rockstar game
Any Fromsoft game
Any Valve game
Original Thief and Thief 2
Hotline Maimi
Minecraft
Terraria
Any Gache game (they are all shit but still better than modern Pokemon)
The Sopranos: Road to Respect (also shit but still better than ZA)

>>724192107
Arceus also had a covid boost but still couldn't get anywhere near new horizons. It released at the peak of covid at 2022.

>>724193356
Played all of those and standards are the same.

>>724192669
>but now the game is clearly just shit
this game is better than Arceus in every way.

>>724183389
Bait used to be believable

>>724193482
Doubt it

>>724194090
In fact made my standards higher and now i only appreciate Pokemon more.

>>724189507
Posted this a while ago and I'm glad to see that the Pokecultists in this thread keep proving my point. My only mistake was assuming that they're genuine cultists as opposed to bots that won't diverge from their programming but at this point, tomato tomahto I suppose.

>>724185339
>random terraria review has 3k hours
I wish there was a way to search nintendo reviews so we could see how many hours people rack up with these games. I'm sure I've seen people with 15k hours in factorio.

>>724179161 (OP)
The normies far outnumber those in the know anymore. They don't care if it's slop. They'll keep eating it up like the piggies they are.

>>724194185
Case in point.

>>724183280
That doesn't necessarily look like Charizard even. It could be any dragon

>>724194259
nvm. I found one with 40k hours.

>>724193572
glad you're enjoying it
it's still really, really shit, it's not about being better than arceus, it's about the fact that arceus had some ambitions, this one is worse than arceus in many ways except for the graphics

not that it matters anyways, I'm pretty certain the fact that gamefreak is going all in on other games is proof that pokemon will either die and/or switch hands soon enough, which can only be good (in case of death, accelerationism, in case of changing hands; it can only go up from there)

>>724181037
he should be slam dunking those paychecks into btc so he's not on the streets when his mom kicks the bucket

>>724179161 (OP)
i haven't boughtered a pokemon game since my GBA could no longer play them. i just jerk my cocklet to the critters sorry.

>>724182586
based pedo

>>724180107
When you're expecting the game to be a complete train wreck, it seems to be pleasant surprise when it ends up being just pretty alright. That's the same way I felt tring out Arceus, and I imagine that's the same effect here.
Arceus, for how visually awful that game looked, it did a good job at making catching pokemon and hunting them down fun again.
I haven't seen any glitch compilations of ZA floating about, so that at least gives me the impression that the game actually got half-decent QA time..

>>724179161 (OP)
The game is so bad and playing it makes me feel like I am in hell.
The combat system is ASS and never fucking works, pokemon will just run off buildings and then repeatedly respawn midair, stuck in a loop of falling off the building over and over again
The lockon system doesn't work for shit, if you want to fight something next to a mega stone crystal? Good fucking luck, it will ONLY lock onto the crystals
The animations are ass, the game lags like shit, there is a noticeable delay in button input on the Switch 1 version, all the shops are just menus, shit some of the displays on the menus RENDER OVER THE PLAYER, the AI for both your pokemon, enemy pokemon, and enemy trainers plays like shovelware slop right outta 2006, this game is awful in every conceivable way for a pokemon game!

>>724192971
Pokemon has been in a sharp decline long before Arceus, you know. Even around the time LA came out, BDSP was there to remind people the series was dying even despite how promising Arceus looked.

>>724195939
>I haven't seen any glitch compilations of ZA floating about
Only because 4chan has a 4 MB file size limit so I am restricted to screenshots.

>>724179161 (OP)
i can't believe it. this legit makes me sad. this will just embolden pokeshit into making even worse games in the future. a multi-billion company, no less.

Game-freak could literally make an Underwater Motion Controlled Escort Mission Game that is a literal sub 5/10 starting Pokemon and it would still sell millions because that how mentally ill Pokemon fans are.

>>724179161 (OP)
$70 for what could be a 3gb mobile game if optimized to even 2015 standards.

>>724197025
/v/'s favorite gen 5 was a flop (probably why this board seethes over pokemon so hard) so I doubt it.

>>724196709
that's not a glitch, he's just standing on the crystals.

>>724194587
>proof that pokemon will either die
In what conceivable universe will Pokémon be allowed to die? It's a golden goose and I would think everyone would love to get their hands on an IP that would only require the barest minimum tweaks for it to receive critical acclaim and financial success.

>bug fiesta
>bad graphics
>Small worldmap
>Lazy 3D modeling
>Shit story
>Broken gameplay
>Ugly new designs
What does it take to take down pokemon? They don't have a single remediable trait besides the name

>>724197354
Its conglomerate of investors are too powerful and will never allow it to die. That's like saying Amazon will go under one day.

>>724197247
+$30 Day One DLC (you get accessible content upon pre-ordering in the form of unlockable outfits, so it is indeed a day one DLC) + Nintendo tax + tip + Pokemon Home sub + Nintendo online subscription (reminder, several mega stones such as Greninja are not only locked behind the paid online, but behind being a compsweat and ranking all the way up to rank K! Gotta shill pokemon champions and Nintendo Online somehow!)
And remember, YOU are the bad guy here if you don't like any of this! That's right, if you disagree with any of Pokemon Legends ZA you are just some hater Sony shillbot!
Holy shit I hate pokemon fans so much it's unreal, and I say this as someone that likes Pokemon quite a bit.

>>724197485
it's pretty crazy to think most of /v/ doesn't remember a world before pokemon.

>>724197343
>broken hitboxes aren't a glitch, they're a feature!
Holy cope
Next you'll tell me this NPC clipping into a wall is fully intentional and an intended game mechanic as well

>>724197536
you lying niggers are never gonna change what day 1 DLC means. its downright disgusting that you keep trying.

Is the game as small as it looks? I really can't believe the town is so fucking small

>>724197536
>behind being a compsweat and ranking all the way up to rank K

I did not no that. That's fucking asinine.

>>724197637
>pay 30 whole dollar
>get immediate content upon game release with the promise of more later
You're right, it's not DLC, it's more like a drip-fed battle pass lmaoooooooooooooo

>>724197615
it's just how games work you retard. its not a glitch because there's no error, the code is working exactly as designed.
Nobody calls capes clipping through armor "a glitch" in games that have that, you're trying to spin a narrative and its a bit sad you're digging so far to find "glitches" that exist in pretty much every 3D game.

>>724180372
>slop
Meaningless buzzword at this point, used to insult anything the user in question doesn't like.

>>724197687
https://vxtwitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/1978702448714752009

>>724197698
this shit was industry standard for 15 years now and you faggots ate it up, but its a problem now because nintendo is doing it.
No matter how you reply you and i both know you've bought games with "pre-order bonuses" that are Day 0 DLC and you've praised them to high heaven
>inb4 no i haven't
yes you have faggot.

>>724197876
>and you faggots ate it up
You are the only one who is eating it up lol

>>724191030
nta, but I'd agree with him. I noticed the fanbase got far more defensive around SwSh. Before then, I could hate on whatever new pokemon games released and receive very little pushback on it. Once SwSh came around it was like a switch flipped and everyone became fervent overnight.

>>724196630
don't forget the puerile story where you're enslaved to a loan shark and the game forces you to praise them as they order you to beat up protestors

>>724197741
>working perfectly as intended

>>724197876
>Using whataboutism

then you shouldn’t be praising either i don’t understand why you fucks always use whataboutism instead of common sense "OH THE OTHER PEOPLE DID IT BACK THEN SO ITS ALRIGHT IF WE LET OTHERS DO DO IT AND CONTINUE THE CYCLE" like fuck no let both suffer and end the cycle

>>724197637
There making the DLC available for purchase DAY ONE. And what's more, you can't play it. Isn't that traditional Day 1 DLC, but worse?

>>724196709
That's not what a glitch, a character standing on air because a platform hitbox extends too far is intended behavior. For intended behavior that's funny or weird, the descriptor of "jank" is more appropriate.
Shit like webm related is a glitch.

>>724179571

Every time you retards say this it's obvious projection. You're really not doing yourselves any favors.

What's got everyone so dramatic now?

>>724198226
I have two more here for you

>>724198226
>>724198634
>inb4 "b-b-b-b-b-buh that's just two examples so it doesn't count! you chud!"
Jesus h christ I have never met a more insufferable fandom in my entire 28 years on the internet than Pokemon fans at this point. What the fuck happened.

>>724198226
me when booba

>>724198468
I'm pissed that I feel like I got fucking scammed for paying $60 for what feels like at best a $10 Shovelware slop game, and Pokemon fans relentlessly defending the fuck out of it, and often being just, complete bitches about it. They lie constantly, they make shit up, they resort to constant whataboutism, I had someone in an earlier thread throw a shitfit about me posting some jank with the game by posting a bug in Witcher 3 and saying "but look at how bad this game on playstation was!" and being just incredibly smug about it.
And it's not just 4chan shitposters, I've been seeing freaks like this, behaving like this, unironically, not even baiting like most the freaks in this thread, across the various social medias, on telegram, on youtube comments, on twitter, on bluesky, shit on discord I had someone start spamming people unironic death threats and trying to dox people to the point discord staff banned them all because people were pointing out how mediocre the game is.

>>724198996
fell for it

So now that the narrative that Legends ZA sold badly failed, it's just going to be non-stop seethe that people bought it in record numbers, huh?

>>724198996
Uh oh! Stinky eric snoy melty melty melty!

>>724179161 (OP)
Has a Pokemon game ever won GOTY? Not a shit post for or against it, I'm genuinely curious.

>>724198350
Everyone's been citing verifiable reasons as to how they come to conclusions like that ranging from the price increase alongside the lower quality in content/art style, the evil behavior regarding pocketpair, the adaptation of anti-consumer practices like the aforementioned day one DLC, etc. while you in return simp for Game Freak like they're your powerful and wealthy sugar daddy who throws his weight around and no amount of feminine "yikes, let's unpack that" is going to disprove that. No one sees you as a passionate fanbase who will stick by the game they swear is criminally underrated and misunderstood until they die but rather as people who only care about whether a corporation (one that would feed you personally feet first into a woodchipper if it meant they could see a 25 cent increase and they could get away with it) makes a profit.

>>724199417
Every single one of them has without fail.

>>724199091
Wait you think OP is supposed to be good news for Pokemon? Lol

>>724199426
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL seething poorfag sour grapes snoy brownoid LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
All you can do is cope and shit yourself and project

>>724198686
I want more details about the circumstances and cause for the falling through the unloaded area webm, it seems like an actually interesting glitch where the trigger isn't immediately obvious or self-imposed, but I see you've chosen to build a faggot fanboy strawman to be angry at in your mind and I take that to mean you don't actually want to have a genuine conversation about the subject.

>>724199537
No, which is why it's strange there's so much seethe all of a sudden. Although I guess we both know why.

>>724199563
You're the one that keeps trying to dismiss my reports of bugs, glitches, jank, and general weirdness encountered in the game very single time.
For the unloaded area, hell if I know but I've seen it happen multiple times on the Switch 1 both myself and from friends, though 99% of the time the area pops in before you actually get to it there. Maybe it's some sort of culling issue or something hell if I know, I've had a similar thing happen before in Scarlet. This is, in my case I haven't asked my friends their models, on a Switch 1 OLED.

>>724199537
>pokemon has 50x the fanbase of animal crossing
>somehow animal crossing sells more
If pokemon was actually good, it would sell more than all of nintendo's first party titles.

Oh yeah I'm feeling the 80 bucks quality right here

>>724199973
AI generated fake post

>>724200032
Good goy

>>724179998
>extremely bizarre
Nah, just regular autism.

>>724199973
There is a battle zone barrier below that, camera doesn't show it

>>724199973
This is photoshopped, I can tell

>>724199973
Do you enjoy posting such atrocious lies all the time you scumbag?

>>724188860
We are emotional creatures, not logical

>>724199846
>You're the one that keeps trying to dismiss my reports of bugs, glitches, jank, and general weirdness encountered in the game very single time.
I replied to you once. Not once did I say any of the other webms were literally nothing, I'm not your fucking strawman.
I said that characters appearing to float because of an oversized too large object hitbox is not a glitch.
If you play enough video games, you should know that making hitboxes perfectly wrap around an object is not practical to run and usually feels like shit to interact with, so developers make them bigger or smaller to make them easier to interact with.
If an attack hitbox is bigger than it visually appears to be, people don't call it "glitchy", they call it janky. That's just a matter of fact, it's not a glitch, it's literally a standard expectation of video games.

>>724199537
Sequels always perform worse, the dropoff being minimal shows consistency

Post starmie porn.

>>724179161 (OP)
happy for you still calling out the bull shit given the chance

It's just one fucking tiny city, how cheap can you get to make anything here holy shit

>>724198202
the dlc includes outfits which are available now, the story content comes later

>>724200660
In what world is such a massive hitbox considered normal?
And why do you keep weirdly obsessing over that singular point while ignoring everything else that's been posted?
Man, First Post was right about you guys.

>>724200745
actual autism, kiddo.

>>724200745
AI generated fake video

>>724200858
Go choke on a dick dude

Stop. Saying. Bad. Things. About. Pokemon. Legends. Z-A. This. Is. Your. Final. Warning.

>>724199537
I don't think Game Freak is concerned.

>>724200745
>projecting this hard
Maybe stop being so cheap that you play this on a switch one you poorfag.

>>724179161 (OP)
I had fun.

>>724198634
is this switch 1 gameplay? like the game just cant load fast enough on the switch 1?

>>724201139
Yes, and I guess that would be the best guess for it

>>724201052
But all of this is still on switch 1 thoughbeit and im not even that anon this thread isn’t really proving the "we aren’t slop eaters" wrong at all

>>724201073
I didn't

>>724201210
Silence, filthy disgusting poorfag.
You can only speak in this thread after you have purchased a Switch 2 and the Switch 2 version of Pokemon Legends: Z-A

>>724200854
You were accusing me of arguing and believing things I didn't, so I continued to elaborate on the thing I did argue to further reiterate my point on fixing your poor understanding of what a glitch was in your initial post.
I identified that I was arguing with a bad faith retard from the get go, and yet I still replied anyway, so I suppose you win.
You wasted 30 minutes of my Saturday Night that I could've spent playing Katamari instead.

>>724201206
probably the same thing happened with SV where the console couldn't handle loading shit, GF is pretty bad at optimization I guess at least the switch 2 mitigates that a bit until the games start being made for the switch 2 exclusively

>>724201283
Im good i love my wallet and my dignity you can enjoy your plastic paper weight until the following weeks

>>724201313
The ">inb4 "b-b-b-b-b-buh that's just two examples so it doesn't count! you chud!" wasn't directly towards you personally you socially retarded fag, have you seen the state of the thread here? I was absolutely expecting people here to try to make that as an argument, because that has happened on other threads,
This whole damn time you and several others in this thread have, as the first post rather accurately pointed out, been acting weirdly defensive about this game. Like damn. You'd rather go get in a hissy fit over something not even related to the content on display, almost as if to distract from it.

>>724201320
It is also on cart, not digital, because I like being able to resell or gift something when I am fully done with it (another reason I've avoided the Switch 2 so far with that keycard bs) so undoubtedly that hasn't helped either.
What a mess this launch has been. I wonder if they'll bother patching any of this or just leave it as is and release gen 10 soon. Much like how most of the patches for Scarlet/Violet were to...remove duplication methods, and other generation bugs that people used to have fun lmao.

>>724201597
A bit off topic but when the fuck is Nintendo going to add options to buy games as gifts for friends, like what Steam does.

>>724201597
I havent seen any like actual gamebreaking shit in my playthrough so far but I did see one actual save bricking bug someone ran into that will probably get patched. I doubt we're going to get gen 10 for at least another couple years.

I have anti-Gamefreak fatigue

>>724201710
They had the option back then on the wii u but i don’t remember seeing the option to do so on the switch 1

Every single poster that has had any issue with this game is having it due to running a pirated beta copy on a shitty chinese emulator. That's just how the facts are, simple as.

>>724201791
>Shit that will never ragebait people
can anons actually come up with a more creative ragebait than copying a term and spamming it 24/7 on every thread

>thread nearly reaches it's end
>everyone just stops posting
Bunch of damn (You) farmers here

>>724179161 (OP)
>Sold less than the unity slop remake outsourced to no-name subcontractors
>Sold less than than every other switch Pokemon game except kusoge like Pokemon Snap and the niche Mystery Dungeons DX game
Is this supposed to be impressive?
Embarassing

>>724181037
>Severely autistic manchild works to fund his hobby instead of funding it on taxpayer dollars
>Mother, proud her son with no realistic 'proper' future is doing something. Posts it in a Facebook support group for people and parents dealing with the same thing
Literally what is wrong with this

>>724184432
Misery is a sign of high intelligence

>>724179161 (OP)
>6 million units
>6 million poketroons
it's terminal

>>724179161 (OP)
Do kids even play this shit anymore or is it largely millennials?

>>724203242
it's all millennials, scalpers beat up all the kids when they were trying to get pokemon cards

>>724197615
>>724196709
If some clipping is the worst you're seeing it's a higher quality than normal modern pokemon game

>>724203391
>>724198634
>>724198686

Not buying.

>>724179331
Gamefreak has buckbroken Pokefans for at least two generations straight.

>>724203531
That's because you can't afford to sour grapes thirdie. All the more for us REAL pokemon fans :3

>>724203842
I'm playing the game just to not seem sour grapes, but it's very mid. I agree that only braindead pokefans will enjoy it. Unfortunately, I count myself among them.

>>724180107
>The game is actually good, much better than SV and SwSh.
This is exactly why people need to be more critical of Pokemon and Game Freak. Like it's hard to be better than those trash games.
SwSh are just laughably bad games in general on top of being bad Pokemon games.
SV has a bad open world that actively discourages you from treating it as such, and the best way to go through Paldea is to treat it linearly and go through the badges in order.

I paid for SV and regretted it so I won't buy ZA. I have been vehemently against romhacks for years but I think it may be time to swallow my pride because even the fanfic games made by 10 year olds are probably better than any modern release.

I'm at a weird point with the game.
I find myself enjoying it, but also wishing for more. It's kinda making me want to go back and play S/V at this point.

The thing I'm missing is the connection to the Pokemon ironically. The way you catch and raise them in ZA is just so lacking in a sense of importance.
Outside of my Starter, none of the Pokemon I've caught have left a strong impact on me and made me think "yeah, this is for my final team". I have a lot of Pokemon I use for various fights and swap out a lot more, but I don't feel they're partners the same way I do in a mainline game.

Like, when I look back at other Pokemon games I played, I remember certain bro-mon from each run that stood out. Appletun in one game, Magnezone in another, Dragalge in another, etc. But that just hasn't happened in ZA despite being like halfway through the game.

>>724179331
More like why are people so defensive of multi national mega corporations nowadays? I assume they know that these corporations hate them right?

>>724203842
Not buying.

>>724179331
*Offensive

Literally every video about Pokemon is a Snoyboy circle jerk

>>724182324
>>724181858
This is your life, snoyboy; getting mad at somebody else success LOL.

>>724186560
>Nothing will piss you off like seeing an obese millennial prancing through Disneyland wearing Mickey Mouse ears.
Who are you fooling? Envy is a deadly sin. Majority of people whining about this cant even afford to go to Disney World let alone see these people.

>>724197445
>bug fiesta
>bad graphics
>Small worldmap
>Lazy 3D modeling
>Shit story
>Broken gameplay
>Ugly new designs
But enough about Palworld

>>724179998
>father juice

>>724179161 (OP)
Based. Here's to more pokekino games!

>>724179161 (OP)
>Sold less than SV.
>Scored less than Arceus.
>Pokefags are celebrating a loss.
LMAO. The desperation!
These numbers are a flop for Pokémon, which managed to sell 10 million in three days.
Z-A was a complete failure in comparison.

>>724207718
Z-A sold less than Arceus too.
LESS THAN ARCEUS!
Z-A might as well kill the Legends series.

it's almost as if graphics don't matter.

>>724208598
It only matters when its not Pokemon to them

>>724206845
>Actual bigger map
>working gameplay
>a actual decent wilderness
>decent models
>not the new megas besides mega hawlucha and chesnaught

Thats the only ones you’re wrong about

>>724180107
>Basic bitch waifu pokemon
>B-b-but ZA is actually good!
You faggots are so pathetic