Thread 724528665

>final boss
>world ending horror that the will destroy everything your Main Character love, and release centuries of unending hell
>your character gradually level up in the story just so you can match his power and win

>secret boss
>its just a normal guy
>minding his own business and you have to go out of your way to fight him
>does trillions of damages, use game breaking mechanic, and have more damage resistance and hp than the Final Boss

Why do RPG do this all the time?

>>724528665 (OP)
Name 5 games.

because its badass to be the most badass and not give a fuck and chill like that bald guy in yellow

Because it's only so long before Baal decides to take action.

>>724528732
SMT 5
FF10 X2
Expedition 33
Bravely Default
Any Persona
Undertale

>>724528732
>KH 1&2 (only good ones)
>Fallout NV (go from hyper warlord devil to ultranationalist schizo)

>>724528732
Ace Combat Zero

>>724528846
Shiva looks nothing like the right portion of OP's pic

>>724528921
If you're talking about SMT 5, its him. Him and now, True Masakado

>>724528665 (OP)
Either because it is fun to subvert the expectations that way, or because if the secret boss was also a giant mass of destruction and doom roaming about, it'd probably take priority over the final boss.

>final boss
>literally the creator of your universe

>the most powerful secret boss in the entire game
>some little girl

>secret boss is (You) from a different completed save file
>appearance, abilities and background depend on the choices you made in your other playthrough
>defeating the boss unlocks a NG+ mode where you play in the world of the previous save file
>if the previous (You) was evil the new quest is about unfucking the world, if the previous (You) was good the new quest is about conquering the world

>>724528732
i hate how the super boss is in only one of the three final dungeons

>>724528665 (OP)
its the implication

>>724529332
>hidden or extremely powerful boss is just a simple word or name
I love these kind of shit.

>>724529205
Genesis Rising's final boss was pretty sick (only watched the vid)

>>724528732
Xillia 2 and after you win, the secret bosses go beat up the final boss for you and it's the happiest ending in the game

>>724529379
Why would he bother? And if the final boss is smart enough, he won't attack that person.

even Paper Mario did this
since he was right in the main town and ostensibly a "good guy," as a kid I wondered why he didn't just rescue the star spirits and defeat bowser himself

>>724528732
Might and Magic IV

>buffs the party during his fight
>tells you hes proud of you and that he believes in you
kino

Because it's much easier to make a hard and balanced or otherwise challenging and complex humanoid boss, than it is to make an inhuman boss all those things.

>>724528732
Digital Devil Saga 2

>>724529068
>dlc boss
dorsn't count
>masakado
not Satan
get your shit right

>>724531861
Demifiend is added to VV without the DLC.

>>724530728
>Satan himself
>some guy

>>724528732
Elden Ring lol

>>724528665 (OP)
>Game starts with a glorious last stand where the last three surviving party members die fighting the big bad though they do manage to kill a shitload of their minions.
>They get saved by a time traveling spirit who wants to unfuck the world.
>The rest of the game is appearing at the decisive battles that led up to the bad ending and saving a few other party members at a time, which in turn leads to completely new major battles and small skirmishes to occur where you can win small victories against the villains and save yet more allies, slowly building your army until you have enough people for the last stand to become a one sided curb stomp against the villain.

>>724532414
Isn this just chrono trigger/FF6?

>>724532492
I mean sort of but I was specifically thinking Warriors Orochi 3

>>724530728
That Jack Frost doesn't fuck around

>>724528732
Paper Mario 1 and the TTYD remake.

>>724530580
I have failed you... My sun is dying.

>>724528732
Parasite Eve

bosses that are the same size as you are cool, but i've got a soft spot for ones that are You But Bigger like this nigga from iconoclasts

>>724528879
Ulysses is funny as hell I love him

>>724530020
The TTYD remake is even more blatant with this
>Final Boss: malevolent demon capable of engulfing the world in darkness
>Superboss: some Toad who punches good and knows to move 3 feet to the right to dodge Mario's jump
Why didn't he go defeat the Shadow Dragon?

>>724535736
There's also whacka which is just whacka

>>724528846
>doesn't fit
>doesn't fit
>doesn't fit
>didn't play
>3-5 doesn't fit
>didn't play

>>724528665 (OP)
Why is Europe a final boss?

>>724528665 (OP)
Man is the most dangerous enemy of all

>>724528665 (OP)
it's kino, that's why