Thread 724530748

Why are they the only people still making actual RPGs? Their games are commercial successful and seem easy to make sense they have been dropping new ones every few years.

>>724530748 (OP)
Can I pickpocket random people in their game yet?
Even Bethesda lets you do it, and that's slop

they should've had vtmb2

Pathfinder sucks

>>724530852
>rpg is when I can pickpocket 2 gold from the local gay tiefling before meeting the local gay druid

>>724531021
>rpg is when I can pickpocket 2 gold
Yes
I'm not sure what your obsession with gay tieflings and druids has to do with that though

>>724531091
>stop noticing our 'game' is full of gays!!!!
No, I'll keep reminding people this is what leftists did to D&D

They make woke slop but because they are russians they get a pass, because putin is the savior of the white race or some shit.

>>724530748 (OP)
Wotr
Rogue trader
S2

>>724531253
What? This is a thread about Pathfinder, and the post you were replying to mentioned Bethesda, why are you bringing up DnD? And yes, nu-DnD is woke, so is Pathfinder, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand? You okay?

>>724531021
Bruh

>>724530748 (OP)
I have given so much of the last 7 years to their games, I really can't thank them enough for letting me immerse myself in two of my favorite IPs and doing them justice.

>>724530748 (OP)
I am waiting for them to make a game that doesn't look like an indie game from 2012

>>724530748 (OP)
What do you arbitrarily define as a "actual RPG"? I think Owlcat games is one of many RPG developers. For example, Underrail exists, with Underrail 2 coming soon™. Iron Tower Studios exists and has released Colony Ship and Age of Decadence (games that are frankly more "hardcore RPGs" than Owlcat's games).

Then there's also Larian, which makes pretty much only RPGs, Dragon Commander and L.E.D Wars notwithstanding. Despite what some retards may claim, BG3, for example, was way more of a actual RPG than WotR or Rogue Trader, inspite of the bad story and simple rulesystem, and thus boring character building it had. It had way more reactivity and player agency in actions, with character stats determining the results of both combat and non-combat outcomes. WotR in comparison barely bothered to even acknowledge I'm playing a murderous Demon, with me getting different coloured fireworks in the last DLC. Woah! Class and race reactivity? Yeah, once in act 1.

So again, what do you mean by "actual RPGs"? To me, RPGs are defined by intrinsic character stats affecting both combat and non-combat outcomes in a meaningful way. What is your definition that only Owlcat passes?

>>724531412
Yes anon, Pathfinder and DnD are woke, I'm not denying it. Some of the first NPCs you meet in this game are a transbian married couple, BG3's character creator screen literally allows you to play as a tranny, again, what does that have to do with the fact that you can't pickpocket people in Owlcat games?

>>724530852
Owlcat aside, pickpocketing is a feature that either breaks the game in half or completely useless after a few hours. I can't really see a good middle ground for it.

>>724530914
Not sure if VtM fits Owlcat. They like to fill their games with a lot of filler fights, while VtM is less about combat itself, even though it is important, than about social stats. Perhaps it would have done them good to be forced to make a game with less combat.

>>724530748 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 3 is an "actual RPG" no matter how much people cope about it.

>>724531412
>refuse to state any actual point, just greentext random strawmen and hint at problems we know you have
>people treat you like a retard who isn't actually saying anything
>"why are you pretending not to understand me???"
It is nobody's fault but your own that nobody responds to your drivel seriously.

There's also Tactical Encounter whose Solasta which had a preddy gud modkit so you had some solid DM-made modules. The emphasis was certainly on combat instead of dialogue choices, though.
I worry the switch from Unity to Unreal will have a negative impact on the mod toolkit....like, maybe there won't be one. That would be a damn shame.

>>724531664
Its a weird thing to obsess over when WOTR lets you go absolutely bonkers with role-playing to the point you can become a liche or demon

>>724532080
>WOTR lets you go absolutely bonkers with role-playing to the point you can become a liche or demon
So bonkers you can't even kill specific NPCs until act 5!

>>724532080
What do you think a RPG is, if you think it is merely about the amount of "roles" available. Would WotR been more or less of a RPG, if it had more mythic paths and even less reactivity to those mythic paths? What about if it had less mythic paths, but more reactivity to them? The correct answer is obviously less mythic paths with more reactivity, but you seem to argue for the opposite.

>>724531412
Refusing to say what you mean or make a principled stand on anything, instead relying on constantly implying things only to backpedal or move the goalposts so you can never be proven wrong does not make you smart. It makes you a Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson watcher.

>>724532080
where is my option to kill the troon i just met (first portrait you see in the game)?

>>724530748 (OP)
this is not larian
and their games are not rpgs

>>724530748 (OP)
I like them

>>724530748 (OP)
their games are fire, but I also like larian games. two of the best rpg companies for me.
I'd say that only bad thing about them is that their games can feel little reading heavy, like bloated with text. for example in rogue trader you have tons of colony building decisions where you have to choose between some small rewards and theres always so much text to read with them that in late game I just ended up skipping the text and choosing rewards.

>>724530748 (OP)
>Why are they the only people still making actual RPGs
They aren't

>>724531253
Then I will remind you how trad owlkek truly is

>>724530748 (OP)
Nobody else can make money on high effort 1m sales games but a second world country. That combination of >80 IQ but still dirt poor is rare.