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Anonymous No.724589356 [Report] >>724589554 >>724589641 >>724590013 >>724590161 >>724590212 >>724590313 >>724590320 >>724590353 >>724590393 >>724590471 >>724590472 >>724590621 >>724590945 >>724591164 >>724591297 >>724591427 >>724591505 >>724591679 >>724591842 >>724591925 >>724592290 >>724592692 >>724592926 >>724592970 >>724593431 >>724593692 >>724594425 >>724594579 >>724595439 >>724595563 >>724595830 >>724595846 >>724596054 >>724596223 >>724596430 >>724596645 >>724602050 >>724606520 >>724606534 >>724606693 >>724606934 >>724607614
Your thoughts on this type of writing being pervasive in indie games
Anonymous No.724589531 [Report] >>724589629 >>724589729 >>724596587
I don't get it
Anonymous No.724589554 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
I don't buy western indie games.
Anonymous No.724589629 [Report] >>724589675
>>724589531
Shut up yes you do, fuck you, you almost made me explain shit to you, I'm not your fucking clown.
Anonymous No.724589641 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
I hate it
Anonymous No.724589675 [Report]
>>724589629
It's something about linear progression I guess?
Anonymous No.724589682 [Report] >>724589859
It's okay as a one-off gag. It was not a one-off gag in that game.
Anonymous No.724589729 [Report] >>724591479
>>724589531
Constant lampshading and meta-awareness, I presume. It does detract from the immersive verisimilitude of any given video game universe if not used sparingly (mainly in easter egg content).
Anonymous No.724589745 [Report]
this game is like, sooooooo self-aware and able to make fun of its own tropes, its like guh, sincerity? ICK.
Anonymous No.724589835 [Report] >>724590337
i won't lie i chuckled
this seems like the kinda joke that'd be neat if it was a one-time thing, and considering this is the first time i ever saw it, yeah i'm ok with it
idk why op is implying it's in so many indie games cause i never saw it elsewhere
Anonymous No.724589859 [Report]
>>724589682
Sea of Stars has two types of dialog
>meta referential shit
and
>garr is the best!
Anonymous No.724589963 [Report]
I loathe that kind of shit.
It's only ever tolerable in an easter egg and not in a game that engages in the very thing it's lampshading.
Anonymous No.724590013 [Report] >>724590179 >>724607881
>>724589356 (OP)
It's funny, though a little goes a long way. Plenty of old games had this type of stuff in them as well. I remember a line in some JRPG I played as a kid that went something like "Press the X button to open the menu, whatever that is."
Anonymous No.724590161 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
It's disingenuous and undermines your setting
Don't do this if you're trying to tell a sincere story
Anonymous No.724590179 [Report]
>>724590013
It's always weird to me, especially in voiced dialogue, when characters casually make reference to controller inputs.
Anonymous No.724590212 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
I think games should never include that sort of meta "haha look at these conventional gameplay standards" referential humor at all. Even if you think it's really fucking funny, because it probably isn't. It's only acceptable if the ENTIRE game/plot is parodying that stuff, and even then it only works if it doesn't explicitly point it out, just plays it straight as a 'work of love' for a genre and not 'ironic observation.'
Anonymous No.724590223 [Report]
>use a classic progression scheme
>offer an original progression system
this is perfectly ok
>use a classic progression scheme but with 4th wall breaking meta-awareness (post it on reddit first to get massive karma! wooooot?)
this is not even an option you should consider
Anonymous No.724590264 [Report] >>724590417
Does it ever occur to this retards that this exact scenario exists in the real world? That there are low-resource, low-skill societies that can barely construct the most basic of structures, all the way up to hyper advanced civs with mind boggling technology at their fingertips?
Event re. the direction piece, it is completely understandable that talent and resources draw closer to where they're needed most.
Anonymous No.724590313 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
This nigga is actually named Yolande
Anonymous No.724590320 [Report] >>724591696
>>724589356 (OP)
Le self aware of video game tropes humor
tho I do prefer games where every "upgrade station/blacksmith" is technically capable of upgrading everything to max and the real limiting factor is enemy drops/reasource requirments that you can't feasibly get until a certain level of progression also I think EBF is one of the best jrpg-esque western indie game series ever made
Anonymous No.724590337 [Report] >>724590407 >>724590439
>>724589835
o.m.g. ur so right, take all my reddit gold, good stranger!!
Anonymous No.724590353 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
this line would be great as a punchline near the end of the game after each earlier blacksmith or an npc nearby says their mentor lives further north
Anonymous No.724590393 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
I didn't hate this game but its writing was pretty amateurish.
Worst part wasn't the lampshading though, it was Garl(Carl?), the fat cook who, for some reason, everyone loved and thought was an amazing guy and just really couldn't imagine a world without him in it because he was so great at being Gnarl!
Anonymous No.724590407 [Report]
>>724590337
are you actually getting upset over that?
Anonymous No.724590417 [Report]
>>724590264
the implication is that in games, the later areas tend to be the evil hell-lands with no resources or money so the best blacksmith in the land with the most upgrades is the guy living in a hut that's the one safe area surrounded by 200 skeletons (who all use rusty spears so they don't buy his upgrades anyway)
Anonymous No.724590439 [Report]
>>724590337
Do you ever ask yourself WHY your parents didn't love you?
Anonymous No.724590471 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
Their previous game, The Messenger, had this kind of dialogue in spades. It's insufferable.
Anonymous No.724590472 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
self degrading games harping on JRPG tropes is hardly new and hardly unique to indie games. go fuck yourself vidjalet. whatever this is i'm not buying or researching it either. fuck your SEO. your metrics can suck my fat cock.
Anonymous No.724590580 [Report]
Self aware writing is a plague that needs to be exterminated.
Anonymous No.724590621 [Report] >>724592037
>>724589356 (OP)
The writing in Sea of Stars was all over the place in many different ways.
I don't think the style of the line in the pic is "pervasive in indie games"
Anonymous No.724590945 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
The self referential thing was great when it was first being done. Like in Link's Awakening or Super Mario RPG back in the 90s.

These days it comes across as insincere and derisive though.
For it to work, it has to be subtle, and that's something american writers fail to grasp.
Anonymous No.724591164 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>we're too good for it but we're still making it
Just go write a book instead.
Anonymous No.724591243 [Report] >>724595345 >>724595623
I prefer when the humor is a little more clever. Like in FFX.

>"you mean we gotta pay? There's literally a dragon attacking our ship, and if we die, you die too"
>"I have faith in your victory :))))))"
Like the guy is such a smug asshole, but you gotta admire him being cheeky.
Anonymous No.724591297 [Report] >>724593051 >>724593529
>>724589356 (OP)
This game wanted to be Chrono Trigger so bad, but CT never had any smarmy epic ironic characters who negated the premise while ridiculing its own genre

The Witness (previous game ninja gaiden into metroidvania) was so fucking goated and perfect, what a huge falloff in this more recent game.
Anonymous No.724591427 [Report] >>724600779
>>724589356 (OP)
Someone needs to explain to indie devs that all the meta jokes about gaming have already been told and they all have the same GAMES AE DIFFERENT TO LIFE punchline.
Anonymous No.724591479 [Report]
>>724589729
It goes hand in hand with everyone being a mystery meat brown homosexual in the game.

This type of shit feels like it isn't made by actual gamers, but by the kind of irony poisoned retard who only latched onto the hobby after it became chic with the rise of social media around 2010 and onwards, like I'm just looking at the afterbirth shat out by some video essay watching hipster retard who has experienced videogames largely through a secondary source.
Anonymous No.724591505 [Report] >>724591691
>>724589356 (OP)
Self referential humor is dying out thankfully. It's wrapped back around to being cringe, thanks mostly to zoomers calling it out.
Anonymous No.724591679 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
Gay and retarded. Just do the systems you want and don't cry if and/or when it's abused. Nobody wants to hear the developers opinions on shit when it's some sort of appeal to realism coming from a fat black female pirate standing 15 feet from a magic book.
Anonymous No.724591691 [Report]
>>724591505
Millennial Americans were a fucking mistake.
Anonymous No.724591696 [Report] >>724591795 >>724591983 >>724592601 >>724594583
>>724590320
Why is EBF's 4th wall breaking meta humor fun but Sea of Stars' cringe? Don't say it's because of nostalgia because I hadn't even heard about EBF until I saw people make threads about it on /v/ recently.
Anonymous No.724591795 [Report] >>724592112
>>724591696
>Don't say it's because of nostalgia because I hadn't even heard about EBF until I saw people make threads about it on /v/ recently.
Fuck off underage.
Anonymous No.724591842 [Report] >>724592249
>>724589356 (OP)
It's boring and insincere
(Sea of Stars sucks by the way)
Anonymous No.724591925 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
It's not so bad in the right kind of game though. Monkey Island did a few jokes like that
Anonymous No.724591983 [Report]
>>724591696
The joke in Sea of Stars is badly timed, it just comes out of nowhere. And the game didn't really have any jokes before it or after. It just feels confusing (and cringe)
Anonymous No.724592037 [Report]
>>724590621
Indie games get a lot of smoke for shit only some of them do.
Anonymous No.724592112 [Report] >>724592214
>>724591795
Relax bro, it just wasn't on my radar at the time. I understand all the references, which is maybe why I don't mind it.
Anonymous No.724592178 [Report]
Highly annoying. Surely I would not be able to bear the company of the person who wrote this.
Anonymous No.724592214 [Report] >>724592354 >>724592439 >>724600548
>>724592112
Don't tell me to relax you mouthy fucking nigger, not when you admit to being a fucking newfag and defend garbage like in the OP in the same post. You look at the fucking ground when I walk by.
>inb4 inevitable DUDE UH RELAX LMAO CALM DOWN SO MAD reply from some subhuman because the fucking garbage that posts here now all have huge egos and no shame so they need to last word forever to protect their fucking feelings
Fuck off forever nigger.
Anonymous No.724592249 [Report] >>724593130
>>724591842
>Sea of Stars sucks
I started liking the battle gameplay and some of the level design after I played a while (I almost quit at the cringe pirates).
The story is just bad though. The writer (who is also the game's director) thought of a couple of pivotal moments, and the rest is pure filler. Even the "big moments" don't land, since it's impossible to be immersed in a badly written story
Anonymous No.724592290 [Report] >>724593162
>>724589356 (OP)
Why did they lampshade so much about incremental upgrades based on latitude and shit when they just could have done something different like multiple gear effects or blacksmith backtracking or literally anything else?
Also everyone knows that blacksmith skills increase by going east
>Regular steel
>Damascus steel
>Chinese alchemy
>Muramasa Billion folded japanese katanas
Anonymous No.724592354 [Report] >>724592470
>>724592214
>defend garbage like in the OP in the same post
But I said I didn't like Sea of Stars. Are you illiterate as well as stupid?
Anonymous No.724592439 [Report]
>>724592214
DUDE UH RELAX LMAO CALM DOWN SO MAD
Anonymous No.724592470 [Report]
>>724592354
*spits in your eye*
Fuck off nigger.
Anonymous No.724592601 [Report] >>724592820 >>724592982 >>724593097 >>724593131 >>724593692 >>724605852 >>724611128
>>724591696
Not that guy and I don't know what EBF is but I personally have old examples I like while hating it in modern games for a simple reason

>the writing in old games was a message in a bottle, the devs would write what they want, send it out and that was it, they had no clue if someone out there liked it or got it or thought it was cringe, which meant they did it for themselves

>the writing in new games is a circlejerk, the devs saw how certain writing is received online (especially on reddit and TV Tropes), saw the type of reaction it gets, and copied/wrote it knowing and hoping someone will screenshot it and post it on reddit for ebin updoots, they likely didn't come up with it and only did it out of a sense of shame or social obligation to an echochamber rather than personally believing in it or wanting it to be known

These two contexts also result in subtle variations in the writing itself, something like pic related is a personal musing of the writer that almost makes fun of how self-aware it is, the modern equivalent to this would be "always support indie creators who make great games for low prices!! stop buying $79.99 AAAA games with day 1 battlepass DLC!!!" which immediately drags in an entire online discourse into the world of the game, it's like singing in the shower vs singing for an audience of millions
Anonymous No.724592692 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
God damned smug pirates, think they know shit.
Jokes on her, I'll just pillage gear from my dead enemies.
Anonymous No.724592723 [Report]
>one or two lines
Fine
>constant smarmy bullshit
Not fine

It's not complicated.
Anonymous No.724592771 [Report] >>724592854 >>724592973
A lot of Millenials and zoomers are both terrified of sincerity and so they hide behind irony and meta level humor. Its why the MCU was so popular.
Anonymous No.724592820 [Report]
>>724592601
bing fucking go, excellent post
Anonymous No.724592854 [Report]
>>724592771
It's just a trend (that has mostly passed too), no reason to make it a generation war thing
Anonymous No.724592926 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
It's shit. I'd rather they say "Far to the north, the rumors say, is a town/village where you can buy weapons of extraordinary quality!".
Anonymous No.724592970 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>blacksmiths are somehow increasingly more capable the further up north they live
well yeah they live near areas that are retardedly more dangerous and need to supply people with higher quality/more effective weapons that can handle those dangers.
Anonymous No.724592973 [Report] >>724593163
>>724592771
MCU is gen x writing though
Anonymous No.724592982 [Report]
>>724592601
This guy gets it
Anonymous No.724593051 [Report] >>724593338
>>724591297
>The Witness
>(previous game ninja gaiden into metroidvania)
Isn't that the first person puzzle game?
Anonymous No.724593097 [Report]
>>724592601
Writing with online discourse in mind is exactly what I don't want to see. Good job putting that into words
Anonymous No.724593130 [Report]
>>724592249
It doesn't help that entire character stories just aren't resolved and there's a big neon sign inserted in place of a resolution that says "Play The Messenger plz : )"
Anonymous No.724593131 [Report] >>724594046
>>724592601
>it's all because of REDDIT and people who want to screenshot it on REDDIT for more REDDIT upvotes everything is because of REDDIT
Please stop being so fucking retarded. The general push towards everything being insincere exists well outside of reddit, and low effort meta-referential shit is just the easiest way to express that.
Anonymous No.724593162 [Report]
>>724592290
>Muramasa Billion folded japanese katanas
BTFO by a standard greatsword from medieval era europe but you can't blame the japs.
The entire reason why katanas are folded 8 billion times is because they had to as the iron content in ore in japan is really low compared to somewhere like Europe. They need to beat the ever loving shit out of iron to get all the crap out of the iron. Doing that to european steel would be actively detrimental to the steel.
Anonymous No.724593163 [Report]
>>724592973
It's Gen X writing what they think Millennials want.
Anonymous No.724593220 [Report]
I just left a flash game thread and it fits.
Anonymous No.724593338 [Report]
>>724593051
I think that poster meant The Messenger. But speaking of The Witness, it does a rare approach of skipping writing entirely by just giving you snippets from books, talks and movies. It could work, but of course Jonathan Blow manages to make it feel like self-sucking. I still love the game
Anonymous No.724593431 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
It would actually be easy to justify the blacksmiths' capabilities in lore as the northernmost point being a mecca for blacksmiths as some major industrial city or coven of artisans, but they clearly didn't think that hard about their epic self-aware humour.
Anonymous No.724593529 [Report]
>>724591297
The witness? Do you mean The Messenger? That one has terrible cringe writing and constantly breaks the third wall as well. PRobably the shopkeeper probably has the most cringe writing I've eve seen in a fucking video game. Haven't played their other shit. The game was fun despite the writing, not because of it.
Anonymous No.724593692 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
The worst thing about it is how absolutely unclever it actually is, but you can just tell the person writing it thinks they are being clever. It's just oozes the fact they really think no one else has truly noticed the tropes, and they are somehow witty for pointing it out and now the audience won't be able to not notice it. Or that the author thinks they are smart for pointing out how silly it we just accept these tropes, even though it is not clever or insightful to notice what everyone sees as a necessary convention of progression; it's accepted because concessions of one form or another always have to be made in service to game play.

You can just picture the people who write these kinds of things. They are the dumb college kid who gets their mind blown one night while smoking a joint and realize, "Holy shit! There are 8 billion people on the planet! That's a lot of people!" But their mind is genuinely blown, because they are some of the most vapid, up their own ass, uncurious people on the planet, who are legitimately shocked and think they have discovered something profound when they stumble across common knowledge everyone who ever bothered to express curiosity before already knows.

The only exception is like in >>724592601 where it's self-deprecating and the author is going, "I hope I lived up to what the audience's expectations, because so much of this is very silly."
Anonymous No.724594046 [Report] >>724594542 >>724594820 >>724595291
>>724593131
This is true. Reddit is an irrelevant, dying shell of a website that is the butt of the joke everywhere else. It has the cultural relevance of Resetera these days.
Anonymous No.724594425 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
Ever since Marvel people think inserting a joke here and there into everything is peak writing, and "look guys this video game mechanic makes no sense in-universe if you think about it" is the lowest hanging fruit of video game humor.
Anonymous No.724594542 [Report] >>724594641
>>724594046
but enough talk about 4chan
Anonymous No.724594579 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>kill monsters to get better items to kill monsters faster to get better items to enter the next zone with the better blacksmith upgrades for your items
this is kino though
Anonymous No.724594583 [Report] >>724595551 >>724596430
>>724591696
EBF is sincere.
There's no attempt at subversion or irony. It's just a silly world of videogame characters.
Anonymous No.724594641 [Report] >>724595275 >>724595291
>>724594542
The difference is that 4chan was always that way. Reddit pissed away its own relevance through its draconian moderation.
Anonymous No.724594820 [Report] >>724595160 >>724595690
>>724594046
That isn't true either, mostly because the centralization of the internet has left nowhere else for a lot of people.
Anonymous No.724595160 [Report] >>724595291
>>724594820
No, it's true. People browse it in the same way they browse imgur but it's not really a place where people go to discuss things anymore.
Anonymous No.724595275 [Report] >>724595573
>>724594641
but enough talk about 4chan

rage for me little bitch
Anonymous No.724595291 [Report] >>724595879
>>724594046
>>724594641
>>724595160
>Insulting reddit on 4chan

Big mistake. Now the thread is going to be devoted to "totally not a redditor here but I disagree. Actually I've heard from friends that redditors are still quite relevant, funny and are really handsome."
Anonymous No.724595345 [Report]
>>724591243
>After you defeat Sin, we will need to be rebuilding Home, you see.
Anonymous No.724595439 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
Why can't millennials write good fantasy dialogue?
Anonymous No.724595551 [Report]
>>724594583
That and it was never a serious series anyway.
Anonymous No.724595563 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
It's fine as long as it's not done to excess.
Sex with Seraï.
Anonymous No.724595573 [Report] >>724595879
>>724595275
?

Wut?
Anonymous No.724595623 [Report] >>724596238
>>724591243
Was O'aka a jew?
Anonymous No.724595690 [Report]
>>724594820
I think most people stick to Youtube these days.
Anonymous No.724595830 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>game obliterate your immersion every 5 seconds by constantly breaking the fourth wall to be quirky
It's even worse when it's actually a good game.
Anonymous No.724595846 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
unfunny + trying hard to cover up their lack of actual writing skill by making insincere, satirical dialogue instead of writing actually good sincere dialogue
If it's a constant thing anyway, it can be funny if you're not getting blasted with it 24/7
Anonymous No.724595879 [Report] >>724595993
>>724595573
It's
>>724595291

A lot of redditors come here to post things they'd get banned for. Despite this, they're still hyperdefensive of their home site and get really, really upset when it gets insulted.
Anonymous No.724595993 [Report]
>>724595879
I guess so. I don't know what would prompt a schizoid tier response like that otherwise. Redditors are weird and kind of creep me out desu.
Anonymous No.724596054 [Report] >>724599380
>>724589356 (OP)
Name 2 more examples.
Anonymous No.724596223 [Report] >>724596430 >>724596548 >>724596573 >>724596782
>>724589356 (OP)
I only play superior japanese indie games made by veteran industry artisans.
Anonymous No.724596238 [Report]
>>724595623
Considering his name in the files is "Oaka_Goldbergstein" the answer seems pretty obvious.
Anonymous No.724596347 [Report] >>724596759
>oh man aren't video games goofy???
>how does link carry all that stuff

no thanks
Anonymous No.724596430 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>characters referencing video game tropes
cringe
>>724594583
>>724596223
>characters referencing mechanics or design choices
kino
Anonymous No.724596548 [Report] >>724596697
>>724596223
>breaking the 4th wall for the purposes of conveying important information to the player
Yeah it'd be better if it was just in a help text popup somewhere, but it's still far more well intentioned.
Anonymous No.724596573 [Report]
>>724596223
what a pedestrian formula
Anonymous No.724596587 [Report]
>>724589531
In JRPGs you get constant more and more powerful gears as you go on, gears you need to buy on the local blacksmith. Even if said blacksmith is a local nobody in an inconsequential village in the middle of nowhere. Depending on the story, you could start on the capital of the human empire with decade old craftsmen selling you "wood shortswords", and end up in a village out of nowhere in the swamps with a dude who sell you "Ultimate Eternal Sword of Adamantium". It's a silly old JRPG trope.

This is not new, by the way, it's also a thing in very old CRPGs. It's just a silly trope, which is easy to mock and make fun of.
Anonymous No.724596645 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
was fine 20 years ago when meta commentary was still novel
if you're doing it now you should stop
Anonymous No.724596697 [Report]
>>724596548
>Yeah it'd be better if it was just in a help text popup
Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.724596759 [Report] >>724597093 >>724597224
>>724596347
>how does link carry all that stuff
cuz he's fucking jacked
Anonymous No.724596782 [Report]
>>724596223
This is fucking hilarious and much more clever if intentional
Anonymous No.724596928 [Report]
People still talk about EBF? My boomer ass thought it died when flash did.
Anonymous No.724597093 [Report]
>>724596759
I'd fuck the shit out of him.
Anonymous No.724597224 [Report]
>>724596759
The guy named Jacked: O_o
Anonymous No.724599380 [Report]
>>724596054
Undertale and Deltarune
Anonymous No.724600548 [Report]
>>724592214
that's some niggerly behavior there anon
Anonymous No.724600779 [Report]
>>724591427
Yeah and that's the thing, they don't need to be. I like 4th wall breaks, but be clever about them
Anonymous No.724602050 [Report] >>724602369
>>724589356 (OP)
Hate it.

Rise of the Third Power had a house in EVERY TOWN with a guy who would say some variation of "huh, you think you can just barge into people's houses and take stuff?". Doing this shit once in a game is annoying. Doing it a dozen+ times left me incredulous.
Anonymous No.724602369 [Report]
>>724602050
I did this joke in my rpg maker game
The punchline is the guy goes "nah go ahead, it's my roommates"
Anonymous No.724603598 [Report]
>teehee we're super self-aware of this silly mechanical trope baked into the genre but we're not going to do anything to rationalize or improve it
fucking insufferable
Anonymous No.724605852 [Report] >>724605935 >>724606409
>>724592601
>they had no clue if someone out there liked it or got it or thought it was cringe
Are you a fucking retard? Do you really think developers weren't getting any feedback? Their games would get reviewed in magazines and be discussed on forums/message boards, or maybe they'd just get a letter in the mail from a fan saying how much they liked the game.
Anonymous No.724605935 [Report] >>724606214
>>724605852
Go to bed lil' zoom you got school tomorrow
Anonymous No.724606214 [Report] >>724606409
>>724605935
There's no need to get mad because your terrible argument was destroyed.
Anonymous No.724606409 [Report] >>724607006 >>724607487
>>724606214
>>724605852
>Their games would get reviewed in magazines and be discussed on forums/message boards
You weren't alive back then so you wouldn't know, but the internet was in it's infancy and most developers did not or barely used it at all. It was enormously slow and small compared to today.
>Their games would get reviewed in magazines and be discussed on forums/message boards, or maybe they'd just get a letter in the mail from a fan saying how much they liked the game.
Again, this was nowhere NEAR as big of a thing as it is today, vidya used to be a niche hobby for nerds, for most developers there was barely any way to get feedback at all beyond a mailing address.

Also, they were not dynamically adjusting shit post release with online patches or as they developed it based on that extremely limited fan feedback. This is like suggesting they were altering shit because they got a few letters from people who saw tiny screenshots posted in Tips & Tricks or PC Gamer or something.

Don't open your mouth if you don't know what you are talking about, it's tiring seeing underage faggots like you try to act smug and confident about shit that happened before you took your first breath.
Anonymous No.724606520 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
The second a game starts doing this I drop it like a hot potato. It's insufferable.
You're writing a plot set in a world that's supposed to be a living, breathing thing. People don't break the fourth wall like retards in reality.
Anonymous No.724606534 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
>Your thoughts on this type of writing being pervasive in indie games
I really don't care about the writing. I'm not gonna play it because there are brown people in it.
Anonymous No.724606693 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
humina humina
Anonymous No.724606763 [Report]
The writing of this game might be the worst I've seen in a "JRPG".
Also woke game.
Anonymous No.724606934 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
The joke would work better if it weren’t said by a plus-size model
Anonymous No.724607006 [Report] >>724607158
>>724606409
>internet was in it's infancy and most developers did not or barely used it at all
>vidya used to be a niche hobby for nerds
Damn, I wonder who the people making these games would be.
Definitely not nerds trying to make a career in a niche profession, and definitely not the type of people to be on the message boards.

>Also, they were not dynamically adjusting shit post release with online patches or as they developed it based on that extremely limited fan feedback. This is like suggesting they were altering shit because they got a few letters from people who saw tiny screenshots posted in Tips & Tricks or PC Gamer or something.
Never said any of this shit you imagined.
Anonymous No.724607158 [Report] >>724607430
>>724607006
Then what the fuck are you trying to imply you mentally retarded faggot?
>completely ignoring first greentexted point that counters your fucking moronic argument
Stupidity and arrogance had a baby and it was named Zoomer.
Anonymous No.724607241 [Report] >>724610694
the only thing people read now is sarcastic quips on social media. you'll only see this more as the people who have read books die.
Anonymous No.724607430 [Report] >>724607487 >>724607548
>>724607158
>Then what the fuck are you trying to imply you mentally retarded faggot?
I didn't imply anything, I said it directly. That it's completely retarded to think that developers got no feedback when they made their game. As I said, reviews, general discourse both online and in real life, and direct communication like letters were all possible even as far back as the 80's.

>the writing in old games was a message in a bottle, the devs would write what they want, send it out and that was it, THEY HAD NO CLUE IF SOMEONE OUT THERE LIKED IT or got it or thought it was cringe, which meant they did it for themselves
Anonymous No.724607487 [Report] >>724608360
>>724607430
>That it's completely retarded to think that developers got no feedback when they made their game. As I said, reviews, general discourse both online and in real life, and direct communication like letters were all possible even as far back as the 80's.
Dense motherfucker, READ.
>>724606409
Anonymous No.724607548 [Report] >>724608360
>>724607430
Question. Do you actually think "nuh uh developers got feedback!" is countering the greentext you're quoting?

Or are you just being an autistic pedant for fun?

Either way, super embarrassing behavior and you should atone with your death.
Anonymous No.724607614 [Report]
>>724589356 (OP)
Zoomers, and millenials to a lesser extent, are incapable of sincerity in writing. Everything has a layer of irony added.
Anonymous No.724607881 [Report]
>>724590013
this was common in working designs' absolute shit tier localizations, and believe me, people complained about them even back then
Anonymous No.724608360 [Report]
>>724607548
Considering the entire greentext is just "developers did not know if people liked what they made because modern social media didn't exist yet", yes.

>>724607487
Setting aside the unknown percentage of developers who were on message boards at the time, there were still tons of ways to get feedback from released games, even something as basic as word of mouth.
Anonymous No.724610694 [Report]
>>724607241
Counterpoint: this post-ironic quip garbage is all thanks to Gen X-ers who read Chuck Palahniuk and David Foster Wallace's books and decided that they too were the cleverest, wittiest, smartest people in the room for having read them. So it's actually /lit/fags' fault.
Anonymous No.724611128 [Report]
>>724592601
i love this line too but you might have its meaning wrong. monkey island cost more than $20 on release. the line was Guybrush (the male in the picture) as the player saying he felt ripped off. it is optional dialogue the player can pick and it's hilarious even out of context. Maybe more funny the less you think about it.

I agree that writing for reddit is never a good idea though. my game is written for what i find funny not what i think reddit will repost.