Thread 725086335

>10 fucking years since fallout 4 came out
What the fuck dude

Zenimax got sued over the whole Season Pass fiasco when they didn't include Creation Content in it despite it being "DLC". And consolefags and paypigs will buy it.

>>725086335 (OP)
oh boy time to break all the mods uh?

aaaa It came after gamergate..... I remember when 8ch spoiled the end of far harbour to the internet. Good times

>>725086478
>break all the mods
Set your game path to Read Only

>>725086507
I knoooow I was just thinking of all the tards bitching about it and sperging out.

Still, I do wonder if it will have anything new or nah. That FNV anni edition looked like shit and even downgraded the viktor figurine.
if they put that much effort in that I doubt this will have anything more than a badly slapped on Gay Tracing.

I remember being so excited over this taking place in my backyard as a Masshole. Turned out I played it less than 40 minutes, no idea the cause but trying to play made me nauseous. Never did figure out why but hey it’s been a hot minute.

>>725086630
>than a badly slapped on Gay Tracing.
It's just base Fallout 4 with all the Creation shit and some new ones like pic related

>>725086470
I remember that lawsuit when it was initiated but then never heard about it ever again.

Skyrim and Fallout 4 now are older to us than when the entirety of the TES series was prior to 2011.
And they have done nothing with these games besides just constant rereleases.
All because of fucking Starfield.

>>725086335 (OP)
Todd can't into multitasking

>>725086478
At this point, they have to be doing it on purpose, right? Todd is pissed off that the only reason anyone plays his shitty games is because of mods.

>>725086935
>All because of fucking Starfield.
Wrong, it's all because of ESO and 76 being money printers

>>725087184
>>725086478
It's to force people to download the creation mods instead which are paid mods.

>>725087184
>Todd is pissed off that the only reason anyone plays his shitty games is because of mods.

1. Only a fraction of players use mods

2. He still makes money off the games. The shows created a massive boosts in sales across the entire Fallout franchise.

>Only a fraction of players use mods
.... and ten other copes you tell yourself at night

Fallout 4 really is peak betheslop. They couldn't dumb it down more like they tried with starfield or make it more soulful like Morrowind
The perfect middle ground to keep 95 iq people happy

I don't actually use mods in any game, even Bethesda games.

>>725087230
Who is even playing that garbage?

>>725087296
>fraction
Fallout 4 and Skyrim have around 15-25k concurrent players daily on steam alone. You can assume that maybe there are around 50-70k total players daily for each game.
Now look at nexus alone. The most popular mods have tens of millions of unique downloads while newer ones still gets tens of thousands in downloads. I'm sure people who still play it on consoles don't use mods but the people who still play these games for almost a decade definitely use mods otherwise why would you still keep playing them? It's not like the vanilla game has near infinite replayability and constant updates like an mmo.

>>725087445
Modern fo4 is modding is just turning it into a slavjank survival game with stalker and tarkov aesthetics while the other is turning it into a backrooms/SCP horror game. Also obligatory sex modding.

>>725086935
>TES recently celebrated its 30th anniversary
>there hasn't been a new TES game for almost half of that length of time

>>725086704
Just FYI in-game costumes don't look as clean and crisp as that pic. And I bet the new faction quests are just boring rehashed of fetch quest or kill quest that's already littered in the game.

why did bethesda stop making games?

>>725087592
Don't forget all the taticool stuff like modern guns and armor from CoD

>>725087886
I sincerely believe there was an exodus of "talent" when FO4 and 76 was made. After that, they literally don't know how to make open world Bethesda games anymore which is why Starfield feels so weird. It has the usual issues associated with bethesda games but at the same time it doesn't feel like a bethesda game.

>>725087850
They'll probably be radiant quests to go gun down a random marked mob in a dungeon somewhere (those are already in the game)

>>725088124
>they literally don't know how to make open world Bethesda games anymore
The rest of the industry moved on, and Bethesda's whole shtick is no longer unique or even impressive.

>>725088157
What did you expect? investigation, collecting clues, solving a puzzle, tracking down a guy, meeting your quarry by chance at some random location
sit your ass down dreamer boy, go buy atoms at the atomic shop, did you like your canvas bag made of the most carcinogenic chinesium the supplier paid us to use?

>>725088209
Not him, but I'd disagree here.

Even today no company makes games like Bethesda games. The closest would probably be Cyberpunk 2077, but even that is closer to GTA then Bethesda games

I have no motivation to replay through 4's god awful story that no amount of mods can fix

>>725089169
In fact, the reason why people still play these games for over a decade now is because there's still no games like them. Skyrim for example has managed to outlast nearly every other RPG that has come out since then.

Yes, please tell us how much you hate Fallout 4 and definitely don't want to play it. We all need to know this.
>>725087592
>>725088032
This is a skill issue. You can easily make a great modlist without a single tacticool mod.
>>725089246
That's the most reasonable interpretation. You'd have to be a fool to deny the problems with Fallout 4 but there's simply nothing else like it. I love NV but it's very small in comparison to Fallout 4. Bethesda doesn't make RPGs, it makes ‘everything’ games.

>>725089481
>This is a skill issue. You can easily make a great modlist without a single tacticool mod.

Yeah stuff like the Chinese AR and some of the guns from NV like the Hunting Shotgun have been remade in 4 and they look nice albeit a bit unbalanced but that's nothing a little f4edit can't fix.

>>725089481
>Bethesda doesn't make RPGs
I can't really agree with this. Bethesda makes sandbox RPGs, not more linear narrative RPGs. Both are still RPGs.

>>725087252
yeah but just WTF is there to download in his shitty paid mod suite that I couldn't download in the nexus??

>>725089767
Which is why they make patches that break mods. Creation club mods afaik are at least curated in a way that they're mostly stable and don't have much dependency issues unlike the clusterfuck that is nexus/loverslab/3rd party mods.

>>725089582
Every time someone talks about Fallout 4 modding I feel like they're stuck somewhere in 2020. The lack of lore-friendly guns hasn't been an issue for quite some time now. I know you're talking about the hunting shotgun mod from 2017 because we literally got a new balanced hunting shotgun mod this year

>shit story
>shit world
>shit itemization
>shit special system/perks/noskills
>THE ANNIVERSARY EDITION
eugh

>>725090065
oh wow really?
Unlike Skyrim, I know the modding scene is a bit slow but that sounds cool, I might have to do a revision on my modlist and start a new game.

>>725089658
>Bethesda makes RPGs
Bethesda doesn't want to make RPGs, and if you consider their extensive list of recent games (Starfield and Fallout 4) RPGs, you need to precede it with the word dogshit

>>725090527
Starfield and Fo4 are perfectly fine sandbox RPGs. Starfield has a lot more RPG stuff in it then Fo4 or Skyrim did. Arguably Oblivion andFo3 also.

>>725090304
I know a lot of people don't like Dak's mods but he released something almost every week so you'll probably like at least something.
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/DegenerateDak/mods?gameId=1151
In general most of my modlist consists of mods released in recent years.

>>725090945
Yeah I have some of Dak's mods already they're fairly competent and not stupid like the aforementioned reasons (I like his flamethrower despite how dogshit it is later on mainly because it just looks cool as a n early weapon) I'll check them out, thanks.

>>725090718
Let's put sandbox in front of it so we can get away with having nothing to actually do. Fallout 4 with a fuck ton of mods is one thing, because sneaking around in survival mode is actually fun, but vanilla normal diff FO4 or Starfield are so shit. Don't even call them role playing games, because I'm still wondering what it is you can roleplay as. Good dad? Evil dad? Nice space guy? Less nice space guy? Any of us would be perfectly fine with heroin too, but at least then we'd get to feel something.

>>725091230
>because I'm still wondering what it is you can roleplay as. Good dad? Evil dad? Nice space guy?
This is like saying Witcher 3 isn't an RPG because all of your options only let you play as Geralt, and do thing Geralt would do, which is a relatively narrow set of things.

I stay with vanilla New vegas and 3, thanks

>>725087503
The most brain dead cattle.

>>725089481
>Bethesda doesn't make RPGs, it makes ‘everything’ games.
That's the best way to describe bethesda's appeal

>>725091213
>and not stupid
I find it amusing how he adds a silencer to every revolver he makes just to annoy people who tell him he can't do that.

>>725091331
Have you played any of the Witcher games? I sure haven't, but Geralt probably has a character that goes beyond his weapon. Red Dead 2 has more roleplay than Fallout 4. Please tell me you haven't played an actual rpg before, because you're in for some gems if so

>>725091719
>Red Dead 2 has more roleplay than Fallout 4.
Red Dead 2 is not only not an RPG, it has significantly less role player then Fallout 4.
>Have you played any of the Witcher games?
All three of them.

>>725091801
>role player
role play*

>>725091719
>Red Dead 2 has more roleplay than Fallout 4
Oh god, another retard who hasn't even played Fallout 4 is discussing how it's not a real RPG. By the same logic Fallout 1/2 and 3 are not real RPGs either. I mean, Fallout 4 has significantly more role-playing than these games, of all the games in the series only NV is better when it comes to role-playing.

>>725091801
Clearly we're looking for different things in an rpg. Idk if you're just into running around and spending skill points, but I prefer games that allow me to immerse myself as a character and make decisions that make sense both in-universe and in my protagonist's mind. It's not like it's an easy thing to do, but I legitimately got more enjoyment out of my single 30hr playthrough of Disco Elysium than I did my 200hrs of playing fallout 4 with and without mods. I like talking to cool characters and feeling like I'm somewhere lived in. Nufallout gives me none of that, I only get good music they didn't write

>>725092098
It's not an easy thing to do, but the best RPGs are remembered for their well-written characters.*

There is 0 roleplaying in Fo4, take your meds. You have voiced war veteran looking for his son while cracking reddit jokes. What else can you be? Only choices you get are inconsequential, or pick one of couple missions, which is essentially menu selection, not roleplaying. 4 dialogue responses cement Fo4 as shooter with a little bit of stats and perks.

>>725092098
>but I prefer games that allow me to immerse myself as a character and make decisions that make sense both in-universe and in my protagonist's mind
Which I can do in Fallout 4.
>I like talking to cool characters and feeling like I'm somewhere lived in. Nufallout gives me none of that,
Seems like a you issue since Fallout 4's world feels very lived in.

>>725092208
>Reddit jokes
DONT MENTION THAT ANON THEY'RE GONNA BRING UP FALLOUT 2

>>725092208
>What else can you be?
Looks at witcher, and Mass Effect, which has even more constrained character options.

>>725092258
In Mass Effect 1 and 2 you at least get to make a few choices that change the story.

>>725092215
Now you're just being disingenuous

>>725092098
RDR2 has you playing as Arthur and that's it, you can't really roleplay as anything else, the world may be immersive but your character isn't

>>725092295
In Fallout 4 you can pick one of multiple factions that change the post-MQ landscape

>>725092327
Yeah you only get to play as Arthur, but in Red Dead 2, you really get to FEEL like Batma-uh Arthur

>>725092098
Funny that you talk about choices and decisions when Fallout 4 has more choices than Fallout 1 and 2 combined.
You have several different ways to progress through the game with different factions, lots of quests have different approaches, solutions and consequences. Will you threaten the scientist to work with you, persuade her, or just find someone to replace her? Isn't that what RPGs are all about?

>>725092420
>More choices
>MORE MORE GIVE ME MORE
You're fucking rabid

>>725092552
Yes, we get it, it's only a real RPG if you can discuss communism with your gay friend. Now that's a real choice!

>>725087503
Pigs eat slop.

>>725092605
Lmao the interaction where you find out Kim is gay is kino because he feels like a real person, so if you clown on him for it, it's both funny and sad. I don't know what to tell you other than your priorities are completely different from mine in an rpg. If the characters aren't good, I'm not immersed. It doesn't mean I can't have fun, or that the game is immediately bad, but the full immersion is a great feeling. It's why there are alt-start mods for all of the 3d fallouts, since context should matter in an RPG.

>>725091480
This confuses me.
I thought I was buying liquor long before Fallout 4 came out
Long before I first voted

>>725092605
kek based

>>725092863
>mind broken paragraph

>>725092930
Disco Eseethium

>>725086935
Nah man, Arena came out in 1994 making it 17 when Skyrim released. And it has only been 14 years since Skyrim released now.

What is shocking however is that we went from Morrowind to Skyrim in ten years and now fourteen years after Skyrim all we got was Starfield.

>>725092863
I think Fallout just isn't for you then. From its very inception it was about a dude in cool armour killing mutants while helping weird characters along the way

>>725086478
Assaultron is a marvel. Obsidian could never.

>>725093082
>Fallout was always shit, stop caring
No. I've stopped caring about Bethesda's future, but I'm not gonna stop caring about the prior games that I like

>>725093318
You should play these games first before you start idolising them. Fallout never had a deep story or anything like that. From the very beginning it was a typical adventure RPG with your character having some kind of goal just as an excuse for you to go kill the local wildlife and level up your character with quests. In this regard Bethesda has done a very good job of carrying over the idea of the original games.

>>725087592
Someone give me cool mods for fo4 to change gameplay. I never finished vanilla, I didn't like the story and the factions were lame and there was no interesting compromise options like in NV.

>>725086335 (OP)
>still no good sex framework mod

>>725089246
You have kcd. But that lacks the fantasy fun.

But there really isnt that many open sandbox games where you can run around like a psycho punching cows and undressing people.

>>725093483
>In this regard Bethesda has done a very good job of carrying over the idea of the original games.
You can see them trying to do it in Fo3, where you can even side with slaver faction and capture some wastelanders, but Fo4 is pure slop. You can't even participate in combat arena... Everything is either friendly NPC in town or mob to kill

>>725091480
Fuck I remember this spoiling everyone about the institute

>>725093623
You can literally become the leader of raiders or join a cult in DLC and it will affect the main game.
>You can't even participate in combat arena
Unfortunately it was cut, but there are mods that restore it since there was still voice acting for all of this in the files.
>Everything is either friendly NPC in town or mob to kill
How is it different from other games? Fallout 4 has more NPCs that can be killed than Fallout 3. You can ruin your relationship with all factions upon first meeting them, the only exception being the Minutemen who basically act as Yes Men from NV

>>725093483
>The game starts you out and let's you choose what to do
Sounds like an rpg to me. I bet the characters aren't infuriatingly annoying. I bet you the style and atmosphere are unmatched. I bet you it tries to make the player feel immersed. Quests aside, even Fallout 3 tries to immerse you in the wasteland. I don't know how anyone feels immersed in fallout 4's world when nothing about anything makes sense. Drumlin Diner is the most popular example, so I won't overstate that part. Fallout 4 goes out of its way to make its world feel fake as fuck. Fallout 1 and pre-skrim Bethesda aren't on your side like you think they are

>>725093905
Yeah, you haven't even played Fallout 1. And by the looks of it you haven't played Fallout 4 beyond the first hour either

>>725093082
>From its very inception it was about a dude in cool armour killing mutants
Do you enjoy eating shit or are you only pretending?

>>725094025
You niggers will pretend that Fallout 1 is some kind of super deep RPG when in reality it all boils down to "find the water chip, kill the mutants"

>>725094016
I'm just happy he used the word "skrim". I taught him that years ago. But sure he used it correctly, but whatever

>>725094146
Lol u mad again

>>725094016
I haven't played fallout 1, but I can tell you it was made by people that had some sort of intelligence, cause New Vegas is great. I've got hundreds of hours in fallout 4, mostly from mods. I bought it day 1 like everyone else. I've gtg but you're a fucking idiot, do any sort of introspection whatsoever, idc what it is

>>725094146
It doesn't have to be a super deep RPG to be good. Fallout 4 was trying to be a shallow shitty RPG, that's different than trying to be a simple RPG

>>725094250
I don’t see a lot of people praising the settlement part of the gameplay. It’s the best part of Fallout 4 and I wish we would get more if 5 ever comes out.

>>725094146
>>725094250
>>725093082
Samefag

>>725094146
>>725094204
I saw you said that I'm idolizing the old fallout games. I totally didn't see that, and I'm glad you mentioned that, because I'm not. I'm comparing fallout 4 to the other RPGs I've played (New Vegas, Disco Elysium, cp2077, etc. Etc) and fallout 4 is not as good compared to them. It's playable, it's fine I guess, but I want better from fallout. If New Vegas was never made, I might be singing a different tune in 2025. probably a more cynically depressed one.

>>725094204
>I haven't played fallout 1, but I can tell you it was made by people that had some sort of intelligence
Yeah, since Fallout 1 is too old for you I'd recommend playing another game by the same designer/writer like Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach or Guardians of the Galaxy: The Telltale Series. Surely a person who wrote the Master and most of the characters for Fallout 1 must be very intelligent.

>>725090945
It's just slop. I'm amazed how he can keep pumping out gun slop weekly

>>725094414
Yeah we're replying to each other with different posts, also I'm only the middle one. How are you mixing up arguments like that?

>>725094434
So was fallout 1 made by retards? It'd have to be pretty competent to be a considered a great game when it released, right? They don't have the capacity to ever make another good game, a game I'd hope you've played before if we're talking about 3d fallout? You're saying nothing

>>725094502
Lol newfag AND samefag

>>725094363
Yeah I liked the settlements, even through the clunky building controls. That was easily the biggest thing they got right, and it's what made survival mode so much more fun. People dot understand that the game can be really fun, and that you can recognize that Bethesda doesn't know how or care to write for shit

>>725087296
>Only a fraction of players use mods
Lol. Lmao.

>>725094634
>So was fallout 1 made by retards?
Something like that. Fallout 1 being the success that it was was basically a miracle. A lot of things were cut due to budget constraints. You've probably heard about the race of talking raccoons that was supposed to be in Fallout 1.

>>725095198
Okay so Fallout 1 is total slop that you need to turn your brain off for, sure that's fine. Can we talk about New Vegas then finally? We do have an example of a Fallout game that's really good and is also a great RPG with great characters.

>>725095470
A similar situation. NV turned out to be as good as it did because literally all the stars aligned. Even the people who made NV cannot reach that level and made The Outer Worlds.

>>725095803
The people who made NV left the company after NV due to abusive management. The people who made Outer worlds are basically an entirely different group of people.

>>725095803
Okay so how does any of this prove that Fallout 4 is a good RPG? And for that matter, not a bad RPG?
>Prior success is meaningless for a game
Correct, but they made a project. You can judge the project and if you don't give credit where it's due, you look like a cherrypicking faggot.
>Fallout 4s bas writing doesn't make it a shitty game. It's like old Fallout!
>Fallout 1 is a shitty game with bad writing, therefore, Bethesda should make a game like it
These games succeeded off of miracles AND going into work every day. The NV team could've done a shit ton less than they ended up doing due to the time constraints. I give Bethesda credit when I have to. I was totally wrong about the settlements before I got to build them. You're one ass backwards motherfucker, and I totally see why you connected with fallout 4 so much now.

>>725087296
>1. Only a fraction of players use mods
I don't know why the replies are acting so shocked at this, it takes two seconds to look up and see that the most popular mods have a fraction as many unique downloads as Skyrim or Fallout 4 have sold copies
The overwhelming majority of people who play these games have never touched a mod, if (by virtue of how much mass appeal they have) they know what mods are at all

>>725087184
That is precisely why Todd keeps trying to bring back paid mods in some fashion. Must monetize the people who make his games successful.

>>725096239
Yeah most players don't because most players are one time normies that don't even go as far as looking at the game settings. Most epic gamers will mod it if given the chance because that's the game's reputation online

>>725096348
If someone is still playing any Bethesda game today, theyre playing it modded in some compacity. Even the console kiddies

>>725096438
>Still playing
When I say "one time normies" do you think I'm referring to people that do multiple playthroughs or interact with the game heavily online?

So i checked nexus and FO4 mods are basically garbage?
Compared to skyrim the quality is 0.
Is FO4 modding dead or are the good mods somewhere else?

>>725096897
There's good stuff on nexus. The problem is that there's so much shit from 8 years ago filling up the site. What kind of playthrough are you wanting to do? The mods I have are for survival immersive shit, but I'm also playing fallout anomaly right now, which is pretty great aside from the enemy models from other video games and all the stalker shit (why replace bottle caps with bullets? It's fucking fallout at least keep that)

>>725086335 (OP)
fallout is a nortubel tier series

>>725095916
It doesn't change the fact that basically none of the New Vegas developers made a single good game after that.

>>725096897
>Compared to skyrim the quality is 0.
lol
lmao

>>725097116
Was looking for weapon and outfit overhauls(kinda lore friendly) since i remember gunplay being pretty shit in vanilla, also some story/quest/QOL improvements i guess? New followers?

>>725086335 (OP)
>>725086478
Dissapointed the mod scene for Fo4 died on the crib when fucking todd tried to cash in with the mod scene
>Still no decent assaultron sexy/sex mods
>No decent female deathclaw mods

>>725087184
>Todd is pissed off that the only reason anyone plays his shitty games is because of mods.
When you think of all the potential lost wealth and subsequent free labor that has gone into the literal billions of total downloads for mods that's enough to make anyone spew. If you charged $1 on every single file that went through the system you wouldn't need to make another video juego in the series again. No amount of pay piggy coins today can make up for the economic terrorism that has been on display since Skyrim came out all those years ago.

>>725096897
The scene died on arrival because of Bethesda spoiling the scene by making modders realize they could cash in with the hobby therefore ruining It forever

>>725092098
I like building Harems in RPGs if they Let me or mod them in, i just like that lmao

>>725097246
>Was looking for weapon
Just open ‘weapons’ tag and set filter to last couple of years.
>outfit overhauls(kinda lore friendly)
Do the same with armour/clothing. /Fog/ also has a bunch of ports from Fallout 76.
>i remember gunplay being pretty shit in vanilla
Fallout 4 gunplay is pretty good, not sure why you would think that
>some story/quest/QOL improvements
Too much to list and depends on what you want. You should probably start with Midnight Ride.
>New followers?
Atomic Radio and Tales from the Commonwealth
Heather Casdin
You can just ask for recommendations instead of bitching that Fallout 4 doesn't have any good mods

>>725097475
>only giving them a one off lump sum at a 30/70
Peak merchant behavior right there. Don't even need to pay for their dental plans at rates like these. About as pathetic as Roblox minus the illegal labor involved.

I kinda want to play a survival mode run of Fallout 4 on VR but those fuckers are asking 60€ for that VR edition even when I own the game already

>>725086335 (OP)
I don't even remember the story anymore desu. I think you turned out to be a synth and the son you're searching for actually created you and gave you false memories or some shit. At some point I became an unstoppable killing machine, started Nuka-World, and then just stopped playing.
Maybe I'll buy this during a Steam sale in like 2028 kek

>>725098240
That's one of the popular theories but it hasn't been confirmed.

>>725086507
>>725086630
are you both retarded or something, just dont launch via steam, launch via MO2's skse and set steam to only update when you run the game fucking idiot retards.

>>725086704
Anybody got a list of all the new content?

The other one I'm aware of is the ghoulification stuff ripped out of Fallout 76.

>>725098126
Just pirate it.
Skyrim and F4 VR were both scam cash grabs that literally do not work without modding, like on fundamental level. Not to mention F4 doesn't even feature any DLC.
This shit should unironically be illegal and there should have been way bigger backlash over this.

Beteshda doesn't deserve your money period, and certainly not for a full priced port that doesn't work out of the box.

>>725098403
Companion from AR2 developer
Two quest mods from Pig and Dak
PA modifications from Aries
Plasma Defender https://youtu.be/dOoUGVzGNLg?si=zsxwC5s-d55oVWpu
Some kind of perk overhaul
And stuff they mentioned during Fallout Day
That's all we know so far and most of it won't even be available on AE release

>>725098403
>>725098694
>new content
These are paid mods and not part of the Anniversary Edition.

>>725098889
This is no different from Skyrim Anniversary Edition. If you buy the AE bundle, it gives you all of the CC content, old and new. Literally all of it.

>>725098927
This is not part of the new CC content, it's all verified creations.
>With the announcement of Verified Creations coming to Fallout 4...

>>725099061
Oh, well that's actually gay. I'd have accepted these had they came with a bundle pack. I presumed by repetition of the naming convention it'd work the same.

>>725099163
Nah, all new CCs that come with AE are just old mods that Bethesda simply didn't bother to release all these years