Thread 725104658

how the FUCK do you win battles against non-bandit enemies?

>>725104658 (OP)
you git gud

>>725104658 (OP)
get a bigger army and train your soldiers
if you're in a kingdom call the other lords for help or just follow them if they don't want to help you
wait for enemies to fight each other and catch them after battles when they're weak, if a faction is fucking up and the lords keep losing battles, their armies are going to be a lot smaller

>>725104658 (OP)
Join the larger armies, or grind and have a lot of elite units and hunt down smaller parties.

>>725104658 (OP)
You don't. You focus on money, makes comerce everywhere. have a party full of hired blades so nobody fucks with you and profit massively from the war to the point where you're richer than every kingdom combined. That's how you win.

>>725104658 (OP)
>archers on hill
>infantry slightly in front
>reload the map every time they get close
>Jeremus has been knocked unconscious by looter
It's that easy.

>>725104658 (OP)
Horse archery goes brrrrrrrrrr

Think they'll give Sturgia different armor to make them look different from Nords? Will Nord archers be a joke?

>>725104658 (OP)
Just smash everything with swadian knights, they kill everything with charges
even in mountains they stomp because they basically have the strongest armor, good enough weapons and double health bars since they're mounted (which also has armor)

>>725104658 (OP)
Get swadia troops, hunt bandits until they upgrade to horsemen, go charge sea raiders, get more swadia troops and repeat untile you have 30 knights.
Get a crossbow and a horse for jeremus full medic skills
gg you won every combat

>>725107367
Why should they anyway, they are going for early to high medieval look, and notNorse and notSlavs looked fairly similar at the time.

>>725107913
OK but will the Nords have terrible archers like in Warband? Like in Warband their archers line stopped at what T4 but in the dev stuff this time they'll be T5

>>725108185
Dunno, expansion/dlc is not out yet.

>>725104658 (OP)
>easy difficultly
>get a huge army of huscarls and/or swadian knights
It's literally that shrimple
archers are always completely useless to me, even in sieges they are garbage

>>725104658 (OP)
base game is piss easy
overhaul mods on the other hand tend to have retarded shit like 30-50 top tier cavalry chasing you the nano second you step outside your first city

When I join a faction I use just that factions units

>>725104658 (OP)
You play on the lowest difficulty like a bitch. Win a couple of tournaments. Completely forget about investing your winnings into industries in cities. Buy shit quality plate for cheap. Mount with armor. Some good weapon that can crush block. I recommend morgenstern although it has small range on horseback. There you go. Now you can run circles around enemy armies and solo kill them one by one. Or you could just learn the game and slowly build up your own mercenary force.

>>725108815
you need archers in sieges to clear the battlements and they trivialize defensive sieges if positioned properly
otherwise yeah its better to either spam heavy cav or good infantry

>>725104658 (OP)
Have an army of about 100 tier 5/6 soldiers, preferably all of them being cavalry for open field battles or a 50/50 mix of ranged and infantry for sieges. Get some companions and level up their trainer skill so you can quickly train up your peasants. You could also become best buds with the king after joining his faction and telling him to follow you.

I hate Rhocucks

LESS TALKING!
MORE RAIDING!

>>725104658 (OP)
I think you should hit them till they die, but I might be wrong this is just an educated guess

>>725104658 (OP)
this game is a poor man's project nortubel

>>725112898
kill yourself

>>725112852
If you kill them you'll be just like them

>>725104658 (OP)
tactics retard
learn to use the function keys and don't just charge ahead at every battle, get an actual decent ratio of troops.

>>725104658 (OP)
for starters you probably want to avoid attacking war parties of 10k troops when you only have 50 spearmen in your own army

How do you get in the mindset for a Sarrind or Aseri character, like I know nothing about that Middle Eastern pre-Islam culture

>>725104658 (OP)
Install rape mod

>>725104709
Fpbp
>>725104658 (OP)
Tip1: don't be reckless, you aren't a fantasy rpg protagonist.

>>725104658 (OP)
archers
lots of archers and a few good nord men to hold the line

>>725104658 (OP)
F1 > F4 or so. IDK haven't played in years so it might be F2 > F5 or something.
You know, select all units and charge.

Also the horse archer guys are a trap. They are really strong at the start but seriously fall off at higher tiers so get the Swadian Knights instead.

>>725108185
Normally they should for balance reasons. They are suppose to get the best T6 infantry and having strong archers with the "boat kingdom" advantage would give them too much leverage. I just wonder what they will do to Sturgia instead to make them stand out. There's too much T6 cavalry in this game if you ask me. More crossbow love would be nice too

>>725116826
Sturgia will never stand out, or maybe they can be the cheap generalist faction while Empire is the expensive generalist

>>725104658 (OP)
F1, F3. It just werks.

>>725115728
just be a lawrence of arabia

I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKALL

>>725114484
>tactics
does it actually make much of a difference in this game? The only things I can think of that work is putting you infantry on a hill and trying to flank their archers with cavalry

Have they reveal the new map layout?

love this game but managing nobles late game is a real pain in the ass. Are there any good mods that make it bearable?

>>725117468
Seems like there's a land mass north of Sturgia and an island north west that will be Nord lands

is the multiplayer for this dead?

>>725104658 (OP)
F1 > F3
Seriously though, place your archers on a hill, place your infantry a bit below, and ride out to flank with your cavalry. Works 95% of the time.

CALVARY CHARGE
NEED MORE KNIGHTS/HEAVY MOUNTED UNITS

>>725117564
No.
you can skip the relation grinding by just paying them to not be angry at you tho
however you need to have a noble ladie who's already married to like you first to be able to do it, after getting 2 relations with her the option will appear, only affects lords in her current faction, so its in your best interest to get her husband over to your side, the best (and only) way to increase said relations is to get her husband out of captivity, i think she will give you a mission for it if you ask her, but you can do it without it.

>>725107367
They did mention they're changing Sturgia a bit to make it more Vaegir like, instead of Nord like. But the 1.3 patch notes only really mention changing their shields to kite shields and changing some weapons, so idk if the armor will change.
>>725108185
I don't think they've shown the troop trees, have they? I think they mentioned Nords having huscarls with throwing weapons though, so maybe that will be more of a focus.

>>725118485
This. Make sure to spread out out your archers with F2, F3 (loose formation) and send them off to skirmish with the enemy range if they have any. Place your infantry either as a shield wall in front of the archers or behind some landscape and then have them charge when the enemy infantry gets in range so the clash happens in comfortable range for the archers. Then smash the sides with cavalry or if you're feeling fancy position directly behind them and then smash in. Invest in some mounted archers to harass the infantry advance as well once you get the basics down and if that fails invest in a bajillion crossbowmen and simply machine gun down the problem.

>>725118673
I didn't know that. Can I also give money to my vassals?

Khuzait gonna be absolute bottom tier now, can't siege and can't sail

>>725119230
nah, they have their own wealth system they use to recruit troops, the more fiefs you give them the more money they'll have to raise troops, tho their max party size depends on their stats and how many castles they have since those raise their max party capacity

>>725120002
lol
anon khan's guard are still and will probably always be the strongest motherfuckers around, and other horse archers are almost as powerful, too
I can't imagine them ever being not top tier

When do you carve out your own kingdom? I retook all of swadia after helping the vaegirs conquer it but I'm just stuck in a eternal stalemate.

>>725117564
only getting upstanding or goodnatured lords makes things a lot easier
throw in one or two martial lords to make martial to have at least one guy that will be guaranteed to be active during wartime and you're good to go

>>725120241
>When do you carve out your own kingdom?
whenever you feel like it I suppose
personally, I always lose interest in the campaign after signing the first peace treaty as the king, so I tend to stretch the mercenary/vassal portion of the game as long as possible

>>725104658 (OP)
Play a better game like Bannerlord

>>725120078
not to boost their strength, but to raise relationship. Military is easy at that stage in the game
>>725120271
yeah, but it felt so stupid hunting all the specific lords down in the wiki and courting them. I guess eventually you learn their names and it gets easy

>>725120241
when I got a large amount of denars saved up and made friends with a fair bit of the good lords around so I can quickly get some lords under my banner before I get steamrolled
undermining the kingdom I'm under via getting a bunch of wars declared on them right before I rebel makes things easier as well

>>725104658 (OP)
hello d/cris/
rhodok arbalets/vaegir archers or swadian/arab-churka cavalery

>>725120995
>but to raise relationship
you don't need to, with the trick i told you before you can keep their relations neutral at all times, and that's enough for them to not desert your faction and follow you when you call for aid, good natured lords will naturally raise their relations with you the more Honor you have

>>725120995
IIRC only certain handful of lords are guaranteed a specific personality and the rest are randomly given at the start of a new game
just pay attention to the way the lords speak it will tell you everything you need to know
basically stay away from the dickheads
asshole lords being slightly more efficient at waging war isn't worth having to tard wrangle a bunch of whiny faggots that will throw a bitchfit if you give a shithole rundown village to a lord without a fief instead of their 3 town owning ass
not having to deal with that for good personality lords is well worth the extra hassle of trying to win them over
some martial lords are good to have as well as they are the best war makers amd I'm pretty sure you as long as each martial lord has 3 fiefs you won't get a relation penalty for not giving them any more and support fiefless lords getting fiefs as long as they aren't at odds, which shouldn't be common if your lords are mostly good personalities

>>725121420
Ah, I probably should have made more friends with the other lords. I just got stuck in a loop of winning overwhelming odds and the only rest moments being dropping off lords in my dungeon. I have your king and second in command you dumb bastards!

>>725104658 (OP)
Activate cheat mod and spam the knockout command.

>>725104658 (OP)
Just buy the Great Hammer asap. Makes you go super rich in minutes.

>>725104658 (OP)
Archers on hill
Infantry hold in front of archers
Calvary follow you
Run around and shoot with them arrows
Once out of arrows smash into them with Calvary

The only drawback to Calvary is that they suck during sieges.

>>725105839
>>725104872
>>725104709
Is there a point to just obsessively leveling your combat prowess so your a walking demi-god?
I've heard this is bad and everything is supposed to go into leadership stats to amass strength in numbers but I've always wondered if you could literally Sauron this shit.

>>725123578
If only armor mattered. You can always just get headshot for all or 75% of your health.

>>725123578
as a horse archer you can solo armies that don't have range support, if they do you can always waste their ammo by running around in circles but if your mount gets hit too much you may not make it, you could also do the same with couched lances but otherwise melee doesn't have that capability because of how easily you can get killed (even at 1/4 damage taken you'll get eventually fucked coz no life regen), it can excel on sieges were the rest of your troops act as a meatshield but in field battles you'll get chipped away little by little and eventually die
that is unless you play a mod like warsword where you can become a literal greater demon and at that point little can kill you, meele or otherwise

>>725104658 (OP)
bombard them from above

>>725123994
>>725124263
I see, so matter how much stats you pump a head shot ends you meaning stats are effectively meaningless.

>>725124689
>stats are effectively meaningless
kinda, after getting enough points into whatever stat you need to up the desire skill you'll usually just dump the rest into INT for more skill points even if you are going full meele/archery since there's not much point in going to 10 in combat skills because most troops will get 2 shooted in meele/ranged at 6-7 powerstrike and Power draw respectively, you only need 4 horse archery to get rid of the accuracy penalty when mounted, any further investment reduces the damage penalty, but its so minuscule its not worth the investment, proficiencies and Power draw points make up for it, Althetics is completely useless and basically doesn't do anything because you are always gonna want to wear the heaviest armor possible when in meele, shield is useful but after 4 you get the force field effect that eats all the arrows so more investment after that is kinda of a luxury.
the fact you get an extra bonus for all Party skills (minus trainer) if you invest them on your character and not on companions also incentivizes going for them, for example, if your character has 10 in surgery, you'll get a 4 bonus, wich brings the maximum chance for troops to not die from 65 (if you had 10 on a companion) to 81% which makes a big difference and allows you to take little to no attrition in fights, which makes leveling troops/fighting in general much easier, leadership wage reduction helps a ton when making your own kingdom and managing all your garrison wages aswell, in short most other skills that are not combat ones are a much worthwhile investment for skillpoints, which become scarce after you hit lvl 30 since leveling takes exponentiatly longer from there onwards, usually stops at 40 vanilla if you play for a LONG time but after that only mods that increase the exp gain allow you to go further, i remember hitting like 51 in pendor once, but that was after like a month irl or so of playing it

>>725123578
It's a sandbox without even any goals. Being a battlefield demi-god is fun, so there's that. But if you want to be meta, then pumping INT is the best thing you can do. You barely lose any troops due to surgery, and with high pathfinding and engineering you can basically get to a castle and capture it within a day, which makes it completely impossible for any AI army to counter you.

>>725124268
Those fucking shotguns the dwarf engineers have are disgusting

>>725104658 (OP)
Solo the 900 man army yourself.

>>725123578
>but I've always wondered if you could literally Sauron this shit.
Yes you can.

>>725104658 (OP)
Figure out the command hotkeys, find an elevated part of the field, set all your archers there, set your infantry in front of them and then poke the enemy army by leading sweeping cavalry strikes until they lose patience and chase you down and you then lead them into range of your archers and spearmen. Rinse / repeat and let your infantry charge when you get them down to managable numbers

>>725126787
This is what I always do, but I've seen other people get huge walls of green text and I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

TODAY THE GODS WILL DECITE YOUR FATE!

>>725123578
Ehh not really? You can get to the point where you have the best armor and weapons and stats where you just cut down anyone who crosses you
But hits work on if they actually connect with you, and getting hit cancels hit animations
So like walking into a town against like 100 villagers and they're gonna swarm you and pick you apart ants
At the very least you need some scrubs to draw attention away from you

>>725119853
>900 denars to cover your expenses
K I N O

>>725128750
you'll only get stunned if you get damaged enough past a certain threshold, wearing heavy armor will make peasants do 0 damage therefore unable to stun you, the problem is said threshold is very small so even troops with 1-2 powerstrike and shit weapons will get pass it and you'll get stunned, and blunt weapons/piercing ones will almost always deal damage no matter what amount of armor you have

How bad will the Nords destroy Sturgians in open combat?

>>725104658 (OP)
Command your fucking army, stop ordering your dudes to charge and start using skirmishing tactics with your archers in front.

>>725129351
Counterpoint: F1+F3

>>725129995
damn we got sun tzu in here

>>725129995
i can't argue with that

>>725129995
What if I F1+F3 your F1+F3?

>spam fians
>spread them out in the rear, preferably somewhere on a hill
>sacrificial front line infantry at the bottom of the hill to keep the enemy stalled just long enough for the fians to fuck them up
>if the battle is going on too long, f1+f3 and let it all sort out

Fians are way too good for how easy they are to acquire. At least khans guard are tricky to upgrade to without dying, but fians just hang back and rack up tons of exp with their bows. ez

>>725131980
also im a smoothbrain, i thought this was a bannerlord thread

>>725132109
Common Battanian L. I bet he ain't got any minors either.

BANNERLORD is a scam
they delivered 10% of what it should've been
turkish gov gibs ruined it

>>725104658 (OP)
the secret is:

use my controller config, you'll win every time

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3596980125

>>725104658 (OP)
You make your archers take potshots while infantry defend them, tell your cavarly to follow you and snipe down their leader and elite cavarly (if outnumbered, try hit and run tactics), then you start harrassing their backline while their front crashes into your wall of infantry.

>>725134109
why the fuck would you ever do this to yourself?

>>725134959
because is fun

also you may want to play the game portably on a steam deck

>>725104658 (OP)
You get 200 Swadian knights

It's funny how hammer and anvil tactics work with just the hammer and no anvil

>>725104658 (OP)
>buy cavalry
>f1 f3
Wow that was hard

>>725123578
Leadership/charisma is a meme, it's almost worthless. All skills that win wars are under INT. You can go for 12 dex if you want to ride an actual good horse, and 15 strength is good enough for a proper bow. Dump the rest into INT.

>>725135051
thanks anon

>>725135883
>>725135261
>just be rich
Lowkey building up trading is goated as a start.

>>725134046
Speak for yourself, I like it more than Warband.

>>725104658 (OP)
80 heavy cavalry Soldiers

>>725131858
you get a siege

How the FUCK do you please Lord's in your kingdom? I got a few at 50 to 100 relationship but others will not go past 10 and won't come to feasts.

>>725136857
it depends on the temperament of the lord if i remember correctly

>>725104658 (OP)
can this shit run on my gfs laptop with Intel i5 4200U with Intel HD grafeex?
im kinda bored at her place atm just shiptoasting on the chan looking for something an old laptop can run that i can sink hours into

>>725136043
soc chads rise up

>>725137103
This nigga, lord haringoth, hasn't attended 1 feast of mine despite getting a castle from me. This is treasonous. I'm gonna kick him out.

>>725104658 (OP)
larger numbers
Thats it thats all there is to it
The reall question is HOW do you get into postion where you outbnumber the enemy and thats relativels easy
You have to atack the enemy with youre army and let them chase you
If there are 3 or for 4 enemy lors you pull up retrat an lure them into an ambush with youre army of 5 to 6 people and then you just auto win
The defeat will be so bad fot the enemy that you can Blitz them and take a large chunk of their territory

>khergit horse archer AI doesn't work in sieges or when in player army
>they just get bullied

>>725137467
Just install dickplomacy

Bannerlord is largely a shit game, but horse archers work spectacularly well in it. You just fire and forget and off they go. They work infinitely better than they do in Total War where you have to baby them a lot.

>>725132559
>7'th

>>725137365
it should but don't expect big battles

>>725104658 (OP)
The Swaaaaadian KNIGHTS!

>>725137368
But why? Charm doesn't really matter that much, it's easy enough to increase relations, Leadership gives morale, but having your soldiers flee is incredibly rare even with no investment. Though I think it had some good perks for party size? And finally trade seems bad due to the fact that bannerlord's economy is shite, and smithing anything, or selling the gear of any random party you destroy will be more profitable than weeks of income from settlements, caravans and workshops combined.

>>725117434
Yeah, try playing with Khuzaits. You take horse archers with you and kite enemies while lancers hold back and charge to the behind of the enemy deathball following you. Much more effective than straight up charging.

>>725138527
Charm to increase odds of rizzing up da womanz and 30% increased fertility + everyone loves me. Everywhere I go I get +relationship drip and it syncs up well with trading where you get + relationship with merchants for 10k or above trades so I can pretty much recruit top tier troops everywhere I am on the map. Leadership mainly a party size thing + when I get btfo'd I get experienced troops by getting +200exp for each new recruit and a passive drip of exp for 1-3 tier soldiers. Trade is how I make my money and get decent passive income with workshops and carvans and picrel.It's simple enough to outsource engineering and medicine as well.

>>725138003
mane shieeeet
imma test it out as it doesnt take a lot of space

>>725136090
Isn't that the usual thing you realize after a few campaigns? Hunting bandits or doing quests is a waste of time except for exp, trade arbitrage is where its at.

Why are Khergit and Khuzait women the most beautiful?

>>725104658 (OP)
Press tilde and you can open a menu to give your troops orders.
Set up battle lines as if it was a Total War game.
Infantry in the front, with archers/crossbowmen behind them. Have your cavalry waiting off to the side in reserve and get them to charge the enemy from behind once your frontline meets the enemy's.

>>725104658 (OP)
Easily.

>>725139581
Hell yeah. I love rolling into town to get the shit I can sell later at a huge margin on the cheap and they pay me for the privilege because I've got what they're desperate for.

>>725104658 (OP)
>F1, F3
Sun Tzu - Art of Warband

>>725123994
>You can always just get headshot for all or 75% of your health.
The ole Grunwalder Special. Works every time.

>Nords - Blue - Raven
>Swadia - Orange - Lion
>Rhodocks - Green - Bear
>Vaegirs - Gray - Snow Leopard
>Khergit - Purple - Wolf
>Sarranids - Yellow - Eagle
what is (you)r kingdom's color and national animal?

>>725142605
>USA - Red White and Blue - The Nigger

>>725104658 (OP)
AWAY WITH YOU VILE BEGGAR!

>>725143856
kino

You get vaegir marksman and put them on a hill and then send in swadian knights. Marksman are overkill though, swadian knights will clean up

>>725131980
>300 Fians on controlled firing orders and good positioning are just like proto Rhodoks with forestnigger twang
>their nobility are objectively dogshit at doing war because they spam their shitty cav and hopelessly outmatched infantry
>can easily shitcan forces twice the size of your own with enough patience
Just a shame that canonically they lose the war and are reduced to shaking down travelers for butter and cabbages.

>>725107597
Nah not with rhodok veteran spearmen they absolute shred through swadian knight armour if the knights are at a standstill on a sharp incline. Do not fuck with rhodok spearmen in the hills

>>725137365
yeah, just make sure to use WSE2 as it helps a lot with the performance

>>725144804
>No shields
Send in the nord bowmen

>>725104658 (OP)
just spam swadian knights, they are broken everywhere except in sieges, but even then they are strong

>>725140496
what madman doesn't use a shield?

>>725104658 (OP)
f1 f3

>>725134046
>feasts are 90% of the game

The same tactics work almost every time.

Put your archers on a hill, dispersed formation if it's big enough. Station your infantry in front of them, bottom of the hill. Put your cavalry off to one side or the other, ideally they hit the enemy in the back, or if they have cavalry too, break their charge and then disperse. Use them to protect your archers too.

If the enemy doesn't fall into this obvious trap, then ride ahead alone, go wide. Come in from the side so only some of their archers can shoot at you, keep your shield up, and take out their commander. This will make them go nuts and just charge your guys, to get cut down.

>>725142605
>America - Red, White, and Blue - Wolf

>>725142605
Rhodok because green and black. It's a good color combination.

>>725149432
>Put your archers on a hill
This never works for me because any army stronger than basic bandits will just wait on a hill in formation themselves and make you come for them. Maybe it's because I play with mods, I don't even remember what Native is like anymore. I mostly use infantry to pin them in place while my cavalry goes around and charges into them from the back or the flanks, and go light on archers which I use mostly as skirmishers

>>725150334
That's why you personally lance their commander, all their strategy just dies when you do that.

>>725150334
bro just do a quick cav charge into their formations
they'll break rank and chase you right quick

gonna be so much overlap with Sturgia and the Nords

>>725150334
I can't into cav but I like running two groups of archers to hit them from both sides while infantry engages from the front. Anything that makes use of blackpowder I'll split them further into separate companies based on staggered firing. If you can offset their timing anywhere between 1.5 - 4.5 seconds you can maintain a decent rate of constant fire. Just a shame that most troop trees only cap them out at 12 shots a man so it becomes more efficient to cycle out the empties and move them into the main battle as auxiliaries.

>>725150717
>I can't into cav
Just have them follow you in triangle formation and hit the enemy archers a few times until the battle really gets going, then tell them to charge

>>725150334
Go and get them is the only real way to play. Playing empire1700 rn, juggling 3 lines of infantry because if its all 1 clump you get rekt fast af.

I haven't played since like 2015, what's the best vanilla+ mod pack? Is it still Floris?

>>725151810
bannerpage is decent as is floris evolved
diplomacy 4.litdum is the most vanilla with qol improvements
for me it's dickplomacy reloaded

>>725151810
>>725152175
yeah, strangely enough dickplomacy is actually pretty good, just ignore the coomer stuff.

>>725136135
>>725149193
you guys do realize that the game they showed before alpha/beta release is nothing like the game we have today ?

the maps was going to be different with 4-5 towns and some castles and a shitload of villages you could upgrade > castles > towns

each settlement had an "underworld" with gang warfare and shit

a whole replay battle option scrapped alongside a tech tree...

the UI was better and felt medieval.. no sleek brown shit

the ai got dumbed down so fucking hard too...

game was going to be a mix of total war and warband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfPYoJ7PTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbrnPtybNd4
+ lots of forum threads they deleted but you can find on internetarchive


but hey, keep sucking turkroach cock tho you shit eating faggot ass nigger troons.

>>725152363
It looks the same except less polished.

what went wrong?

>>725104658 (OP)
>Win tournaments to get some money
>Use money to trade
>Buy big army of peasants
>Grind up peasants against bandits and patrols until you have an army of good units like swadian knights or rhodok crossbows
Simple as that. Also raiding villages gives you a shit ton of money but tanks your rep so you can't do it too much.

>>725152363
I don't follow game development. Pointless shit, just wait for release.
Although, by my harsh standards Bannerlord is yet to fully released anyway, they still keep updating and doing shit with it.

>>725152676
I have over 1000 hours in the game, probably, and never raided a single village

you have no honor

>>725152689
turks should thank God for poles shitting out the janky cp2077

junklord hid in its shadow

>>725152651
Devs outsourced game development to the modding community but kept releasing mod-breaking patches.

>>725152759
>I couldn't bring myself to shoot the police officers
I am raiding a village out of spite alone.

>>725105839
great so you can buy all the armor and weapons you want then what?

>>725108815
>even in sieges they are garbage
I think they're better if you don't actually play the sieges yourself and the game just calculates the outcome in the background

>>725152651
King Roach turning Taleworlds into a state mandated daycare centre for all of their vidya design rejects.

Talesworld has let us down.
>no feasts
>no claimants/usurpers
>0 diplomacy/charm, just press x to gamble bro.
>randomly generated companions have 0 SOUL, Jeremus alone stomps all banner lord cast.
>Bannerlord Voice actors MOGGED by Warband screechers.
>no promised gang/brigand playstyle
>no slavery
>no customizable castles
>no manhunters
>sieges are deeply flawed and retarded
>pathfinding problems in 2025
>build your siege tools in front of enemy fire lol, shelve them and spam them xd
>game is ugly,shit UI and some characters are a nightmare to look at, good artist is not put to use.
>no in-depth strategy, battles make no sense, either f1 f3 rush or use cheese units/tactics.
>A decent PC can solo entire armies with horse archery
>forced clan system with shit main quest.
>Born as spoonfed noble with a forced backstory.
>RtR system from Warband discarded.
>no books or trainers
>Game still in EA yet it needs some mods to be tolerable ( tales world refuse to implement the good mods into the base game for some reason )
>khuzaits ai GUTTED, no more circling the enemy horse archers ram spears lmao
>lots of settlements are useless (castles for example).
>unbalanced factions units and very bad map design. (aserai/sturgia)
>In-game economy is a meme, broken and exploited in two clicks, just grind javelins bro xdd
>kingdom management? 0.
>Slight fem Wokeism.
>shitty quests with no variance and 0 impact.
>early game grind so boring most people skip it/cheat it.
>all factions use the same currency and speak the same language.
>No dynamic map (back in 2016 they said that every faction would start with barebone towns and villages that can be upgraded also Qol stuff like farmers working the fields ALL removed)
>0 depth/rpg elements.
>absolutely soulless sterile new UI.
>people buy the game just for the mods

if you disagree you are either a turkish tranny or shit eating redditor

>>725153425
You don't understand. They have to keep Bannerlord in development to keep getting free money from the Turkish government.

>>725153564
>>725153425
fuck you guys on about ?
the game is out of ea and there is a dlc in the works (cut content resold lmao)

>>725153684
it still gets frequent big updates which don't actually change much usually, but still enough to break all the mods for the game. And while the vanilla game isn't bad, the mods are what make it really shine, same as Warband

>>725152363
something about the visuals is nicer in these old videos, idk what though
plus the map wasn't raped yet, that's a big bonus

>>725152651
no feasts

>small rookie force with proper preparation and leadership beats large army with shiny armor and weapons

This has happened multiple times in history but you can't do it in any M&B.

You can't drive wooden spikes into the ground and fortify your position in a pitched battle.
You can't hit an advancing army's supply train and starve them before their siege prepares an assault.
You have to get more guys if you want to win. There's no room to be a good commander than "archers on a hill".

>>725152363
Damn. Crazy how previous versions of the game were 90% made up of town upgrading and gang interactions within settlements, two systems that they never elaborated on beyond that.

Bannerlord still better than Warband

>>725158656
it's so good the M&B general is still thriving to this day

just get nothing but rhodock sharpshooters
they are good enough in melee to tank while the other sharpshooters shoot things

Couch lance dark hunters

>>725159037
this is supposed to detract from Bannerlord? That a general died because it couldn't live off Rhodok and Jeremus memes?

>>725158656
you got it backwards you dumb retard

>>725106982
>Jeremus has been knocked unconscious by looter
ERRY. SINGLE. TAEM.

>Wanna run a new bannerlord campaign
>Might as well wait for boat update
fuck

>>725160220
Happened to me. I was getting into it again and then they announced warsails. So I fired up warband floris evolved again.

>>725123578
you can't take castles or fight off entire armies by yourself

>>725160220
Same, debating on if I want my Nord character to be a Berserker or a Huscarl

>>725124268
Is that Warsword Conquest? It's still being developed?

>>725158656
Bannerlord will surpass Warband when they stop updating it

over 2k hours and i just cant play warband anymore WSE2 just does not work for me and i get constant exception violation crashes

Its been weeks and this fucker won't get deleted. This runs bricked if I actually wanted to take over everything I'm guessing.

>>725164091
it is warsword conquest but that specific webm is from a submod that adds those big monster/mechanical units to it, the original mod doesn't have them

>>725165515
Don't tell me you have to get on some fucking discord server to download it.

>>725117434
I literally only play Gekokujo right now, but I can say for (at least in glorious nihon) tactics make a substantial difference. Some combination of the complete lack of shields, rifles providing an extreme long-ranged dimension for combat, cavalry being unbelievably destructive to your backrow, swordsmen usually being heavily armored enough to take advantage of sluggish polearm attacks while eating at least one early stab without caring, etc. You can out-tactics enemies in every single fight and murder your way way above your weight class if all they do is F1->F3 their way to the butcher shop, and when they attempt to use tactical movement, the generally high speed of troop movement rewards you very heavily for careful repositioning and responses to enemy reinforcements. It's genuinely infuriating to watch your own subhuman retard allies just run dick-first into enemy armies, but you don't have to worry about that as long as you're mostly doing your own fighting in the field and leaving them to autoresolve their own fights.

>>725165729
Have there been any updates for it since 2016?

>>725165874
I literally don't know. There's just been modmods of it and I always play whatever the latest variant is whenever I need to reinstall.

>>725165907
Do you get them off Taleworlds forums?

>>725166136
This is the one I've been playing lately. I might have the not-latest version, but it's what I've spent the last 100 or so hours of MBW on.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/gekokujo/downloads/gekokujo-hatamoto-edition-v121

>>725166268
I see, thank you.

>>725165580
yeah, its on the warsword discord lol

>>725165729
>Gekokujo
patrician taste

>>725117434
>>725165729

Brytenwalda for me is the best too

>>725104658 (OP)
Play on easy, abuse smithing, use bows

>>725165729
i've never gotten around to playing Gekokujo because there's like a million versions and i don't know which one to go with

>>725104658 (OP)
you basically just have to join a faction and become a marshal. Once you have enough fiefs that you feel confident you start a rebellion. That's what I did

>>725168057
Just play the normal one. Or Daimyo edition I've heard is supposed to be good too.

>200 rhodok sharpshooters
>14000 denars debt per week
>stay a merc forever
>kill and loot everything

>>725104658 (OP)
You have to choose them well.
Go after caravans and learn how to stop cavalry with your chosen troops
Learn when and where you need to personally intervene in battle: prioritize enemy hard hitters like Knights and agro cavalry away from your troops until they kill infantry
You are almost always given a hunting crossbow and bolts in your starting equipment, try using it for headshots while on horseback.
Once you get a party limit of 70~ you can basically fuck any single enemy lord as long as you know what you are doing

>>725108815
No archers are absolutely great and necessary for endgame (ie congering all of calradia) sieges
Vaegirs are best and sarranids are fit for purpose, place them at the bottom of the latter and them them kill enemies who drop their guard to attack your infantry and dismounted cavalrymen

>>725115728
Read up on early Assyria

>>725136043
INT is worthless because companions can do all the INT related party skills
Get a few point into inventory management, most into strength, and moderate amounts (up to 12) into Dex and Cha and you will be sailing

>>725152904
This I only do it in revenge for mine getting raided

>>725165729
You should unironically give WFAS a try too if you haven't already, I like it for a lot of the reasons you like Geko
Sieges are worse but musket gameolay is better

>>725169083
But those villagers aren't responsible for the crime, plus you'll own it eventually so it's in your best interest not to fuck it up so it can serve you better later.

>>725116826
sturgia should have strelcy equivalent - xbow + bardiche or something

What's the best Vanilla+ modpack that isn't bloated to hell and back?
Hardmode: no Dickplomacy

>>725169317
Ummmmm sweetie those villagers pay taxes to their lord who uses the revenue from it to pay for his army so ermm medieval totalen krieg is completely valid

>>725169527
Nigga just play WFAS
Using a bardiche like that does not make sense until musketry

>>725167362
>>725167362
>yeah, its on the warsword discord lol

>>725152904
no, I shoot police officers and their dogs too
but raiding villages is pointless, better to hunt sea niggers for sport, exp and money

>>725168986
If you have Int and companions have int the skills goes to a max of 14. For Surgery this makes it even more OP

>>725169885
It's like they want no one to ever play their mods.

>>725108815
>easy difficultly
what if i'm not a pussy

>>725125708
Is it still the case that putting points into shield as an archer is a bad idea, because it also gives enemies the larger forcefield effect too?

>>725168986
wrong, int can hit much higher limits if the PC has it at 10
int build all Huscarls is best build in the game

>>725153425
the worst thing for me is that i bought it day 1 it was available and to this day it still crashes for me frequently for some reason. literally unplayable

just let them come to you and let your archers soften them up. charge your infantry when they get close. take your cav and flank them.

>>725104658 (OP)
can't wait for the sequel to come out. it's gonna be so good bros

get lots of archers and tell them to get on high ground

>>725106982
>>725160028
Kill them Jeremus
Kill them all

>>725129995
>>725131104
You can't go wrong with the classics.

>>725123578
I usually pump my physical stats early-mid game and charisma late game. This is because the impact of the player character goes down as armies get bigger. I also like to get 15 INT for Training and reading books.

>>725104658 (OP)
Get swadian knights in an open field.
Nothing in the game can stop 80 or so swadian knights.

Is it even possible to stop a cavalry charge with Rhodoks?
They are supposed to be the cavalry killers but they get folded just the same.

>>725181154
cavalry is not going to charge anything uphill, use terrain to your advantage

>>725181154
Put them on a hill so that the cavalry can't fully accelerate into them and just smash through them.
This isn't Bannerlord where cavalry charges don't really matter that much, it doesn't matter if you have Rhodok spearmen braced and ready, if it's an open field where heavy cav can get full speed you're fucked no matter what unless you're Khergits and counter with lancers and horse archers.

Objectively Bannerlord is more polished and feature rich than warband, and yet there is something missing.
Maybe the simpler loop of warband was a good thing?

>>725181405
The simple fact is that the medieval ages are cooler than the dark ages. What Bannerlord is missing is Swadian full plate and an overpowered Trainer skill to kit your boys out to not look like a gaggle of bandits until the 60 hour mark

Will Nords have the best or worst wives?

>>725152363
I miss Ginge

>>725168986
10 engineering on MC and 10 engineering on a companion is the difference between storming cities 3 times a day and once every 3 days.

>>725181405
It's missing shit like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcxZl7aoS4o

I miss claimants way more than unique companions

>>725150334
>any army stronger than basic bandits will just wait on a hill in formation themselves and make you come for them
Killing 1 (one) enemy is usually enough to make them charge. Just ride out alone and shoot/slash one random archer from their backline and that's it.

>>725181405
The garbage economy and lack of lord's individuality are the biggest issues for me. But yeah, at least in terms of the battles, I do like Bannerlord more.

>>725184423
AWAY WITH YOU, VILE BEGGAR!