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Anonymous No.725140487 [Report] >>725140929 >>725141426 >>725142021 >>725142116 >>725143942 >>725146332 >>725147897 >>725148507 >>725150517 >>725161935
Better than Silksong
Anonymous No.725140929 [Report] >>725142407
>>725140487 (OP)
Harder too
Anonymous No.725141029 [Report] >>725142725
It's worse and easier though.
Anonymous No.725141049 [Report] >>725142345 >>725146137
fights might be more sophisticated but moveset of hornet is 10x more fun and the ability to sprint is great
Anonymous No.725141190 [Report] >>725142725
Not even close
Anonymous No.725141426 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
People only think this because they went in to HK with low/no expectations while Silksong had people's prior high opinion of HK baked in.
Anonymous No.725142021 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
Correct.
Anonymous No.725142116 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
Correct.
Anonymous No.725142345 [Report] >>725143882
>>725141049
>but moveset of hornet is 10x more fun
i agree with this if you ignore the spells
Anonymous No.725142398 [Report]
way less annoying >>>>>>> Silksong
Anonymous No.725142407 [Report]
>>725140929
Then why were 90% of the reviews from returning players all about how Silksong is too hard and not like HK?
Anonymous No.725142623 [Report]
It's better because it took less risks.
HK had better, more original hits, but it also had a few misses, which make it average less.
Anonymous No.725142725 [Report]
>>725141029
>>725141190
Troon-coded posts.
Anonymous No.725142781 [Report]
I hate the exploration is HK1, it's what prevents me to play it again. It's not fluid, the backtracking is annoying, and the teleport points are awkwardly placed.

HK2 was less surprising, but it pretty much perfected the formula.
Anonymous No.725143317 [Report]
It's boring. Silksong is a massive improvement. Disagree all you want, but it won't make the knight's movements better or the bosses being less robotic
Anonymous No.725143882 [Report] >>725144410
>>725142345
just being able to sprint makes the game 10x more fun and travelling much better
Anonymous No.725143942 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
Weighing the pros and cons of each, they're pretty equal.
Anonymous No.725144142 [Report] >>725145709
It's Kazooie and Tooie. The first is a strong well-rounded game, the second takes bigger risks and not everyone will like it. Tooie > Kazooie, HK > Silksong
Anonymous No.725144410 [Report] >>725144493 >>725145435
>>725143882
some things have been lost though
the average enemy in silksong doesnt feel specifically well made for particular movesets a lot of the time
nail arts were infinitely better in HK1, spells were much better balanced and made more sense. And silksong doesnt have any cool tricks in the style of multiple hits with the projectile spell as far as im aware

id definitely say silksong has much better "movement" but definitely not moveset. specially when red tools are so silly
Anonymous No.725144493 [Report] >>725146475
>>725144410
Spells were overpowered in the first game.
Anonymous No.725145435 [Report] >>725146475
>>725144410
nail arts were ass in first game and i've never used it in the sequel either
Anonymous No.725145553 [Report]
Would I like Silksong? I liked the original but I've been playing metroidvanias for 30 years and thought it was a little been there, done that
Anonymous No.725145709 [Report]
>>725144142
I like your attitude
Anonymous No.725146137 [Report] >>725146332 >>725146514
>>725141049
>moveset of hornet is 10x more fun
true, but the problem with silksong is that theres not a single bossfight that makes any interesting use of that moveset. its like every fight was designed for the knight
Anonymous No.725146332 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
Correct
>>725146137
Also correct
Anonymous No.725146475 [Report] >>725146585
>>725144493
silk skills are overpowered in silksong too after you get the stuff for them, just in a bland way
>>725145435
great slash, dash slash and cyclone slash are amazing in their own ways. I realised that about great slash in my first playthrough even when using strength, and became 100% sure of it when i did All Bindings.
In silksong the charge attacks sucked on release mostly, but spamming shaman's was decent, and architect's was EXTREMELY overpowered. Right now, hunter's, architect and shaman are all pretty great, the others arent good

In particular the witch crest charge attack is literally just a shitty version of cyclone slash
Anonymous No.725146514 [Report] >>725147650
>>725146137
bull fucking shit
https://files.catbox.moe/dmmkfg.webm
when i fought lace the first time i felt like a fucking anime character, there's a few good bosses even if most aren't btu you can use hunter on anything and it will work well
Anonymous No.725146585 [Report] >>725147538
>>725146475
i play on keyboard and it's uncomfortable to do arts on keyboard so i never used them
i'm talking about running, dash attack, spear and pogo
Anonymous No.725147538 [Report] >>725147643
>>725146585
i play on keyboard too, i dont see the problem really
out of curiosity what do you use for attacks? i use the mouse even though theres no aiming.

In such games if im playing without a mouse, i move lmb/rmb to left and right arrow
I cant just do that in silksong though, because i have clawline on mouse5
Anonymous No.725147643 [Report] >>725147969
>>725147538
how tf do you play with mouse
x attack z jump shift dash remapped from C, maybe thats why it's uncomfy
Anonymous No.725147650 [Report] >>725148763
>>725146514
nta but lace is the exception by a mile in my opinion
lace 2 is the only boss i really consider on the level of pure vessel, nkg, absrad, etc
Anonymous No.725147897 [Report] >>725148137
>>725140487 (OP)
Both worse than Lost Crown.
Anonymous No.725147969 [Report] >>725148763
>>725147643
uh
>attack-> left click
thats it really

here are my full controls
Anonymous No.725148137 [Report]
>>725147897
Substantially so. They're not even worth mentioning in the same breath.
Anonymous No.725148507 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
You can't say that OP. This is a safe space!
Anonymous No.725148763 [Report] >>725148941 >>725148963
>>725147650
seth is great
i remember liknig karmelita
phantom is similar to lost kin but better
trobbio is also really good
first sinner is decent
seth and karmelita really are fantastic i'd go as far as to say they're coparable to nkg and pure vessel

if you look at hollow knight the good bosses are all DLC, mantis lords is great, watcher knights are great, soul master is cool honestly and soul knight is decent the rest is really meh but still much better than most silksong bosses
>>725147969
i didn tsay that literally
Anonymous No.725148941 [Report]
>>725148763 (Me)
i guess hollow knight is more consistent but silksong has higher highs
Anonymous No.725148963 [Report] >>725149498
>>725148763
phantom definitely doesnt flow anywhere as well as lost kin, he spends way too much time in boring attacks like his downwards stomp where he disappears from the screen. way worse than the lk actually leaping then quickly descending
seth is nice but the repeated yellow explosion spam is a total flow killer
karmelita is nice but felt like she was practically watered down because of her stupid gauntlet

i dont like trobbio much, he spends way too much time invulnerable or doing silly shit
Anonymous No.725149498 [Report] >>725150248
>>725148963
i honestly dont remember what either phantom or lost kin do i just felt similar about them
>seth is nice but the repeated yellow explosion spam is a total flow killer
that's the point it breaks the flow of 1st stage youre trying really hard to find anything because the bossfight might as well be better than everything in hollow knight except that pure vessel is much more dynamic and probably more fun due to that
>karmelita is nice but felt like she was practically watered down because of her stupid gauntlet
non argument
>he spends way too much time invulnerable or doing silly shit
that's by design and he's tanky, he has a ton of complex AOE patterns and not much contact damage and movement
Anonymous No.725150248 [Report] >>725150464 >>725151584
>>725149498
im not trying really hard to find anything, i beat seth in 2 tries and thought his yellow explosion spam was a catastrophic downgrade to the fight
https://files.catbox.moe/wvbc0v.mp4
>not an argument
shes not a NKG-PV etc tier boss because shes just not as interesting, she doesnt go all in and as such doesnt really make such a huge full use of hornet's moveset. lace is easier but unironically gets more out of it. Skarrsinger becomes more interesting if you find out that clashing certain parts of melee attacks makes you invulnerable in completely nonsensical ways against certain attacks which is basically complete bullshit and doesnt apply to the most important experience, the first playthrough
>that's by design and he's tanky
yeah and his design is boring
the only thing i find so interesting about his AoEs is combining certain things with him being about to tornado dash towards you


All these bosses listed and theres still almost no cases of something being as interesting to attack/deal damage as one of the following
>making pure vessel take double damage from projectile spell as he moves forward
>NKG walk under diagonal dash -> jump -> shade soul double hit his dash, either that or cyclone him gliding downwards just below his trail (or just do a cool pogo -> dash -> jump -> pogo)
>parry NKG into abyss shriek
>soul tyrant is going to slam, he feints, you jump and hit the other feint
>pogo on soul tyrant while hes moving across the screen with projectiles spinning
>repeatedly slash, blast and shriek the soul tyrant during his 2nd phase slams
>hitting 3 sisters of battle with 1 spell
>hitting absrad 4 times when she teleports
among other coolios
Anonymous No.725150464 [Report]
>>725150248
>https://files.catbox.moe/wvbc0v.mp4
God its fucking infuriating. Such a nice fight but it wastes half that fucking time spamming the dumb yellow explosion where at most you land a bland poke or spell in, completely kills the flow of the fight
like seriously, thinking that shit isnt terrible is an INSANELY retarded take
Anonymous No.725150517 [Report] >>725155261 >>725156052
>>725140487 (OP)
only if you don't play video games
Anonymous No.725151584 [Report] >>725153370 >>725153481
>>725150248
>yeah and his design is boring
it's literally the same design as nkg except that he doesnt have a fast dash it's even implied with art direction
>the only thing i find so interesting about his AoEs is combining certain things with him being about to tornado dash towards you
that's my point
>his yellow explosion spam was a catastrophic downgrade to the fight
it helps if you actually have to dodge those instead of parrying
>she doesnt go all in
the whole design centers around you having to evade her attacks and close to deal damage that's a good design
>making pure vessel take double damage from projectile spell as he moves forward
i dont use projectiles
>shade soul double hit his dash,
i dont use projectiles
>parry NKG into abyss shriek
that's the most basic interaction
>pogo on soul tyrant while hes moving across the screen with projectiles spinning
you can pogo groal for the whole fight, that's also a really unremarkable interaction

i dont even feel like addressing the rest

none of those interactions are interesting and most of those have an almost exact equivalent with proper loadout

the actually fun thing that's not in silksong is invulnerability dash since you can just spam attacks in enemy's face and barely evade them which is cool
Anonymous No.725153370 [Report] >>725155841
>>725151584
>it's literally the same design as nkg
you can constantly hit nkg at almost any time except his tentacles and theres 999x more fun ways to attack him
he feels like nowhere as much as a damage sponge
>it helps if you actually have to dodge those instead of parrying
oh my cant wait to land 1 attack in between each yellow so fun

>i dont use one of the highest skill ceilings way to deal damage
your loss
>you can pogo groal for the whole fight
yeah and its piss easy now good luck recording a single clip of you 24/7 recording pogoing soul tyrant while he dashes across the screen spinning projectiles you shitter


god why are reddit spacers suddenly becoming so retarded?
Anonymous No.725153481 [Report] >>725155841
>>725151584
>"i dont use projectiles" when refering to techniques that are practically only ever performed in point blank range to the boss
>of all things to praise in HK, praised an iframe dash.. and then proceeded to wish it in silksong
Actually abhorrent post. Like im impressed with how bad you managed to make it. Im glad you arent making hollow knight or else it would suck
Anonymous No.725155261 [Report]
>>725150517
/thread
Anonymous No.725155841 [Report] >>725156709
>>725153370
>skill ceilings
easiest way to deal damage if you want to argue that you can do funny cheeses with it it's another thing
>you can constantly hit nkg at almost any time
coincidentally same applies to trovio if youre not a bitch
>oh my cant wait to land 1 attack in between each yellow so fun
nobody is forcing you to play passive
>recording pogoing soul tyrant while he dashes across the screen spinning projectiles you shitter
and for what? it tickles your autism? you can abyss shriek him from below twice in that time iirc which should deal more damage
>>725153481
i dont remember every name by heart holy fuck like i fucking know what shade soul means
Anonymous No.725156052 [Report]
>>725150517
/thread
Anonymous No.725156709 [Report]
>>725155841
Youre just outing yourself as not knowing the super famous trick to make the projectile hit multiple times. Basically completely discrediting everything youre saying when trying to compare both games
Its only the 'easiest way to deal damage' if youre using it wrong at 1/2-1/3 its damage potential
Anonymous No.725159279 [Report]
tying to go back to HK1, it feels so sluggish without the sprinting in HK:SS. Spamming dash as a makeshift form of sprinting feels jittery. It's nice to be so small and light though.
Anonymous No.725161935 [Report]
>>725140487 (OP)
Sexier MC desu
Anonymous No.725165090 [Report]
>False Knight
>Collector
>Dung Defender
>Mantis Lords
>Freaky fake bug freak in deepnest
>Soul master
>Giant jelly
>literally all dream knight guys
>swordmasters
>Grimm / NK Grimm

All more memorable then 99% of SS bosses and dont even get me fucking started on the final boss disparity