Thread 725218878

Before I buy this, can someone let me know if it's possible to completely solo my way through all of the game?

Yes you can, but it plays better with a full team.
You can have a pretty solid team of randoms who never speak with each other and only communicate through saluting and pointing at things.

>can I solo every mission
On Haz 5? You'll probably be constantly out of ammunition and swarmed. It's a team game.
On Haz 3? Easily soloable.
However, the classes each have disadvantages and are meant to work together. So there is a difference between 'can' and 'should'. Just play with randos on Haz 4 if you're so concerned. Nothing bad will happen if you're good.

I tend to play games solo and DRG is great to start an open solo lobby and have randos join.

It's like the only game in the world where random people joining your solo game makes shit more fun.

>>725218983
This. DRG has the best randos in live service gaming.

And if you still don't want to deal with them, you can just set your mission to solo or friends only when you start it.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes you can play the entire game on solo, you can mod it too to allowe 999 players to join your room.

ive only played this game solo. went on for about 80 hpurs, got every character to prestige level one. it was pretty fun

>>725218878 (OP)
What do you mean "through" the game? There is no end. The point of the game is the gameplay. You play it until you get bored, not for the sake of reaching end credits so you can tell other people you beat it.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yeah, it gives you a bot who provides light and revives to make up for the missing team.
But the game is built around palying with randoms while not using anything but emotes to communicate, and does that fairly well. So theres no real reason to play solo.

It's literally the best online game i have ever played. I have more then 200 hours in it and i have only one bad experience with a random. Grabbing enemies are kinda anti-fun tho

>>725219025
>You'll probably be constantly out of ammunition and swarmed.
>with less than 33% of the bugs, that deal 80% of the damage, and have 20% less health, with quadruple the ammo and resupplies, and an invincible ally with infinite ammo, flight, and always listens to you
You are bad at the game if you struggle in solo missions, on any difficulty level.

Since DRG is one of those repetitive GAAS games like Helldivers with no singleplayer storyline and just a bunch of repetitive missions that all play all the same, you don’t really “miss out” on anything by playing solo. You will, however, be forced to play in lower difficulties which will significantly slow down your grinding. But I personally think the game is at its best when played solo, it adds this creepy survival horror feeling to the game, even if played on Haz 3. Playing Haz 5 with other players just feels like a pissing contest of who can contribute the most to the mission success. I’d say buy the game on sale and play every mission type with each of the four dwarves on Haz 2 or 3, anything past that is just insanity. DRG is fun and all but fuck playing this game longer than 100 hours

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes you can play solo and game account for it, enemy hp is based on number of players meaning enemies are tankier if you have more dvarwes, because 4 guns instead of 2 or 3.
Solo also have small robot that provide some damage, light and can mine stuff you point at. You can also start mission solo in public lobby, have robot, then lose robot when someone join and get robot back when other players leave.
Still game feels better with team even if they are randoms, this game is unique in having really nice randoms most of the time.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes. Play as driller. Play as Scout if you hate your self.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes but it won't be very enjoyable.
Playing with 3 other drunk retards is part of the fun.

>>725219904
Image is wrong. Driller don't need to chase scout to c4 him.
Just drop C4 somewhere and scout will spawn at it.

>>725218878 (OP)
The game is designed to be played COOP. You can play it alone but you wont have nearly as much fun as you could be having.

>>725219567
DRG is not survival horror you fucking moron. Its you and the boys having a grand time committing a small scale genocide and having a beer when you get back
If you play on haz3 or lower there are no bugs for you to kill, and those that do show up may as well be tickle monsters. If you've ever played a videogame before haz 4 is normal, haz 5 is hard, and everything else is for children and game journalists.

>>725218878 (OP)
Playing solo is garbage because the game's challenge is just doing repetitive tasks and when you're solo you have to do the tasks 4x times as much. Also you will be constantly interrupted by monsters hitting you since there's only you in the match.

>>725218878 (OP)
I normally play engi on solo using the turrets to cover spots that teammates normally would and with the grenade jump oc it works pretty well on sub haz 5

>>725219112
was genuinely shocked at how helpful the average rando in DRG is when i started playing, it didn't develop the speedrun autism that left 4 dead has at all

>>725218878 (OP)
>can someone let me know if it's possible to completely solo my way through all of the game?
Sure. If you git gud.
But the game doesn't exactly "end" at any point. It's a very easy pick-up-n-play sort of game, honestly meant for co-op.

Starting Solo to learn the basics is a good way to get going, but you really should get some friends / jump into public games.
There's zero competitive elements. Everyone gets 100% of all loot and EXP, and the more players play and survive, the bigger the bonus. Besides, you don't even need mics nor text chat to communicate effectively in DRG; just spam your Laser Pointer + Salute at everything, and you'll do fine.

it's jolly cooppan' at its best.
Don't get tricked into playing some Haz 4-5 turbo sweatshop missions too early. That's the fastest way to ruin all the fun, especially if you're more into exploration than killing shit.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes. But in the beginning it's boring. You need to learn how to play optimally to make it not feel boring. Also there's 1 class that is just faster than everyone else so you will probably end up playing that a lot.

>>725219025
How do you run out of ammo on haz5 when the number of enemies scales by players and in solo you get 4x ammo lol?

>>725220023
If you're playing with randos tell me how is it fun? It isn't. You just larp and wait other people to do stuff. Solo you can do everything and any time. Want to go faster? Go faster, no waiting for permission to press buttons. And if you win or lose it actually feels like you matter.

>>725222882
You might be beyond autistic if you dont understand how to have fun in a videogame with strangers.
Just play the fucking game, and do whats expected of you and literally no one other than the most powercrazed of control freaks will care.

>>725218878 (OP)
It's possible but it's not very fun.
There's no story mode or anything, so you'd just be making numbers go up for the sake of making numbers go up solo.

>>725218878 (OP)
>if it's possible to completely solo
Depends on how good you are

>>725218878 (OP)
The game sucks, its been abandonware for years. That being said, solo is easier than groups by a long shot.

>>725223119
I'm autistic yes. But I get to play more game when solo than with other people. They are just stealing my game.

>>725222882
>If you're playing with randos tell me how is it fun? It isn't.
NTA, but I've had some of the best fun with total randos in DRG these past six years.
Everyone knows what they're doing. Everyone's supportive. No one leaves a dorf behind. Rock and stone 24/7!

>>725223403
>The game sucks, its been abandonware for years.
No it has not.
It got out of Early Access back in 2020, but it has since received seasonal updates and upgrades, every single year.

>>725223673
>I'm autistic yes
Not that Anon, but that explains a lot.

>>725219025
Do people still pretend haz5 is hard?
This isn't even bragging or hurfdurf gitgud or anything; compared to other games, DRG is relatively easy.

>>725224282
it really isn't, but haz 4 is like, the great filter for some reason. I don't remember why, but I remember going back to haz 4 for a bit and it was just the biggest shitters imaginable, and also a lot more angry than anyone I'd seen on 5. like I've played the game a lot, I can carry bronze 1's in my haz 5 missions just fine, but goddamn, going back to 4 was just miserable

>>725218983
is it still like that? I literally only launched it once for the tutorial but my "friends" that made me to buy it for a game night dipped on me so I have like 30 minutes of playtime

OP, if you do end up trying the game out, here's my basic starting tips
>try out gunner, driller, or engy first
yes I know scout has a grapple hook and seems fun, but trust me on this
>play a little bit of those 3 until you find a class you like, and then focus that class until you hit max level (25) and then promote it asap
a lot of stuff is locked behind having a promoted class, so the sooner you get one promoted, the better
>once you've played the game enough to be annoyed by shitty scouts, then you can try scout
scout isn't a complicated class or anything like that, but there's just a lot of little things he SHOULD be doing that a lot of new players don't do, so once you play a bunch and find yourself thinking "man if I was the scout I wouldn't forget to light up the room", then that means you're ready

>>725224282
haz 5+8 is hard enough.

>>725224282
Modded difficulty is the only thing that's remotely fun for me nowadays. Haz 3 is game journalist tier, Haz 4 is filled with shitters in denial, and Haz 5 players are chill but they play on autopilot most of the time and struggle when shit hits the fan.

>>725218878 (OP)
playing solo is a drag and boring.
playing with randos 95% of the time is a good time.

>>725224685
this. dont be a shitty scunt main. you WILL eat C4.

the only times you should be using your flaregun as scout is when exploring a new room or during swarms. try to never use more than 2-3 at a time unless you get a crazy huge cavern. time your flares out so the entire room is lit for the entire length of the wave. scout is the most ammo hungry class by far so dont waste ammo killing swarms either, driller and gunner will do it for you. focus high priority targets like spitters. you also should be kiting at least 1/4 of the swarm away from your team at all times. scout nades generally are the best CC tools in the game when used right. scout is a support class but shitty players will play him like a dps class such as TF2 scout

>>725226605
this is the 5% you don't want in your lobby >>725227204

>>725228579
what do you mean by that anon? I just gave some scout advice.

>>725228721
ok khe

>>725229024
khe? is this some zoomer lingo like cap or bet im not familiar with? maybe you think im being tryhard elitist by writing a paragraph like that, but that wasnt my intention. I dont even main scout, but driller. getting mad at random bad scouts is only a thing on haz5+ where the real sweats go. I only like +more bugs personally as I find tougher+deadly to be a bit unfair unless your team is actually coordinating. DRG is generally a chill game with chill players. I play to have fun and if a rando scunt doesnt do exactly the "meta" and it ruins my game, it doesnt make me as mad as say, a shitter duelest thrower in comp marvel rivals.

>>725229524
I think it was just a typo bro

>>725218878 (OP)
Why would you buy a game designed explicitly aorund teamwork and then proceed to play it solo? Why are so many people like this? Are you just terminally self-conscious and terrified that it'll be awkward to interact with other players?

>>725224406
haz 4 requires the slightest bit of effort (game is purportedly balanced around 4)
haz 5 is vaguely difficult and there's the chance of failure.
People on haz 5 are fine with failure but on haz 4 people HATE losing and you the salt mine
haz 3 is chill and so is haz 5 lol

>>725218878 (OP)
>>725219207
what he said, there's no credits or endscreen anyways so you dont need to worry about anything besides having a skill issue

>>725229864
nta, but im afraid I'll fuck something up and let my team down. it always happens inevitably.

>>725229978
>difficulty 4/5 is objectively a worse experience than difficulty 5/5 even though it's supposed to be easier
This is somehow the universal experience across coop games.

>>725230057
drg is a very goofy game, so when you fuck up it's usually kinda funny so at worst people will salute your dead body for a bit and then pick you back up

>>725230183
the deep dives are 3.5 and 4.5 and those seem to me like good casual/challenge experiences but it's too good for main missions I guess
Deep Rock has players but is on life support in terms of content coming out, Rogue Core was originally intended as an expansion but they made it its fully fledged game for various reasons

>>725230057
unless you go driller and fucking troll by assassinating your teammates the only way to really piss people off is by shooting them repeatedly or kicking them randomly

>>725230386
they have a big announcement livestream next week and they said it's focused on drg and rogue core, so we might be getting a new season or something soonish, since they said there was going to be another season to tie the story into to RC

>>725224282
haz5 is when you cant be a retard anymore
its like how expert in l4d2 isnt actually hard except for crescendos but people still get filtered because they actually die if they act stupid

The best coop game since L4D

>>725229830
a typo of what tho? this dude just gives no reason as to why I wouldn't be welcome in his lobby. its a bit perturbing. I get that this is 4chan but he should at least be creative with his jabs. throwing shade at nobody basically

>>725230607
>A NEW SEASON!!!
They might announce it but I would expect a new DRG season by no earlier than Summer 2026 or literally a year from now.
>yeah bruh let our team just ship this whole game out nice and easy and then not figure out issues with it or plan more for it but go back to our old title and make zero money giving away free things our most loyal fans probably won't touch much

>>725230057
It's not the type of game where everyone's performance is being closely monitored. If you fuck it up I guarantee you in 9 out of 10 cases your teammates won't notice because you're always busy focusing on the thing YOU'RE doing, not what your teammate is doing.

>>725230057
It's not that kind of a game, kiddo.
On the contrary; if your team does not have a great sensei x junior chemistry right off the bat, you're not playing with the real DRG players.

IF YOU DONT ROCK AND STONE, YOU AIN'T GOING HOME!

>>725223750
>Everyone knows what they're doing. Everyone's supportive. No one leaves a dorf behind. Rock and stone 24/7!
I imagine this is what working would be like if real life didnt suck.

>>725230642
L4d1 expert was pretty easy but L4d2 has tanky and instant-damage SI with the jockey and charger which is total bullshit. L4d2 is also like 50% "crescendos"
like the burning hotel would be the final act of a l4d1 campaign but in l4d2 you have t1 weapons or an ax
Also the melee weapons are garbage in general and if your teammates think you're good then you're at a handicap

>>725230735
maybe things have changed but the plan was a new drg season BEFORE rogue core launch, since like I said, the story of the season would tie into the start of rogue core. but yeah I also don't expect it any time soon either

>>725222882
I don't think it's more fun playing with friends than playing with randos. It's the type of game similar to Darktide or L4D where if you want to focus, you need to listen to the in-game audio or at least pay attention to the onscreen cues. This leaves little room for interacting with your friends as if you're sitting at a table drinking beer chatting shit, you're focused on the game. I get a very similar experience playing with my IRL friends and playing with random retards on the EU server, no real difference.

>>725223673
the 'game' is just a boring job simulator. They are doing you a favor.

>randos keep shooting me for fun
>go to the far side of the map
>call in all available supply pods
>take all supplies
>leave game

>>725218878 (OP)
>Before I buy this co-op game, can I play solo?
You can, you'll also miss out on 50% of the game and that's why you'll stop playing after a few hours

>>725230931
>t the plan was a new drg season BEFORE rogue core launch
lol lmao
where the fuck have you been
the current season is the season before the rogue core launch dumbass. That's why you have the new aliens and the deep core crystal and drillevator. It just takes ages to develop a game if you haven't planned it out years in advance.
>WITH THE NEW EPISODIC CONTENT YOU'LL GET A HALF LIFE 2 EPISODE EVERY YEAR OR TWO! WE ALREADY HAVE EPISODE 1 AND 2 PLANNED OUT FOR YOU!

>>725224608
Yeah

>>725230057
There's only one rule: If you play Scout, use the fucking Flare Gun. Those who don't are the only players who I genuinely despise.

>>725230931
last i heard they were doing the next season after rogue core launched into early access

>>725230057
don't worry about it, trying to keep my teammates alive is part of the difficulty i enjoy

If you're new to the game you can do every season now which is pretty neat, so there's plenty of content to get through.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yeah, but you can advance through everything faster by just opportunistically joining games that have been going on for a few minutes
>>725224406
Haz 4 is for shitters salty they can't make it in Haz 5, Haz 3 is for people who just want to enjoy without too much prep or coordination. As a result you'll find plenty of good Haz 3 players and a ton of bad Haz 4 players

>>725231057
>>725231948
ah you're right, it's been so long since I looked at the roadmap, the next drg season isn't until after rogue core goes into EA, and that's labeled as "start planning s6" so it's not even in the concept stage currently

>>725230057
the worst thing you can do is deliberately kill teammates and eat all of the ammo resupplies. The only thing after that which might annoy people is you deliberately starting events and fights when the rest of the team isn't ready yet.
otherwise people are perfectly fine with carrying a new person through the caves. I know I've done more than my share of shepherding new installs through haz5. People will pick you up and dust you off, just don't be discouraged. We will have a laugh if you die in a funny way though, the stakes are super low so don't worry about it.

>>725218878 (OP)
Only if you play the best class in the game: scout

>>725219025
Haz 5 with 2x bugs solo is no problem. As long as we're talking with all upgrades and overclocks available.

>>725231019
based

WE'RE RICH

>>725232718
Yes, yes. A mushroom. Now get back to work.

>>725232384
this also barely ever happens. i've only gotten one elf in 700+ hours. the community honestly makes this game, along with how easy it is to pick up and play versus fucking discord matchmaking nightmares like GTFO.

don’t listen to the guy above me. people all the time don’t mine entire deposits so you gotta backtrack the entire dungeon to harvest 1 ore because the game fucked you and that’s all that spawned

>>725224608
>only launched it once for the tutorial but my "friends" that made me to buy it for a game night dipped on me
many such cases….

>>725218878 (OP)
Sell me on this game. Is it cool? wtf is it about?

>>725235210
dorfs with guns, shoot alien bugs, mine rocks, cooperative

>>725235210
it’s an extraction shooter that can only manage to churn out 2 outfits every season

>>725235210
Co-op FPS about space dwarves mining and fighting bugs in procedurally generated destructible caves.

>>725235210
Minecraft caves with TF2's class/loadout system and Splatoon Salmon Run's shady workplace premise

>>725235407
it is in no way shape or form an extraction shooter. Kill yourself ASAP.

>>725235478
>shoot bugs
>have to extract at the end

>>725222746
Depending on the mission type you play, like linear mining expedition and the drilldozer escort ones, you will only be able to make use of one or two ammo charges from a supply pod before you have to either call another one or backtrack all the way back to the previous one you called, which can be extremely risky, especially to Betsy.

>>725230972
If the "job" is boring you just aren't working hard enough.

>but le you literally work for a corporation in lore and
Shut up maximus retardos.

>>725235509
the "extraction" genre is about looting things and then escaping with them to bring in the next raid. characterized by losing the things when you die and having PvPvE.
Literally none of that applies to DRG.

>>725235448
>FPS
oof, I wanna see my dope dwarf leaping around fighting shit, FPS is for dumb army games when you’re just a human in camo clothes so who cares what you look like but this? what’s the point of being robot dwarves if you only see their fingers sometimes maybe

>>725235210
0 story 0 plot other than fantasy dwarves in space try to mine trash from some caves and fight off bug aliens.
The destruction and mayhem in the game is really hard to beat, the emergent teamwork is top notch, and the shiny rocks tickle the autism gathering idiocy nicely. You'll never really experience it all well solo but randoms are pretty decent. The gear grinding is satisfying and not horrifyingly time consuming unless you're trying to get all the cosmetics or something.

>>725235509
maybe in a technical definition but it feels like a whole different genre

>>725235691
And this does not happen with more players because? Difficulty and enemy count scales with players.

>>725235717
you loot materials that you lose if you don’t extract. having the enemies be slightly more difficult by being real people isn’t much of a paradigm shift

>>725235847
You're genuinely fucking retarded.
Imagine if when you died in DRG you lost everything. All your upgrades, all your gear, all your guns, all gone.
Next time you go in you have to go with just a pickaxe until you loot gear.
That's what extraction means. DRG is not an extraction game whatsoever. It's a co-op horde shooter.

>>725235823
Because even one other player can make use of the two ammo charges you didn't use yourself, so nobody has to go backwards in order to make full use of it. And I forgot to mention that getting nitra also goes way faster with even just one more person, and the longer you spend mining nitra solo is more time for enemies to spawn, and on some mission types like point extraction there is a hidden soft time limit that makes enemies spawn faster and faster the longer you take, and as far as I am aware that timer is not lessened when you do it solo.

>>725230057
unlike other coop games where one retards can fuck it up for everybody, one 3-red player can carry a team of retards no matter how often they're dead
you would have to be actively griefing to make it difficult for your team to win

>>725236050
>Imagine if when you died in DRG you lost everything. All your upgrades, all your gear, all your guns, all gone.
No one tell him what the game's devs are working on right now

>>725236149
They're working on a roguelite, which is also not an extraction game. i stg you niggers have sub 70 IQ

>>725236149
that's not a gotcha because you don't bring any of your shit over to the next run, dumbass

>>725236050
you wouldn’t have the upgrades in the first place if you never successfully extracted

>>725235509
then almost every l4d-tide-floor game is an extraction shooter
except that's not what an extraction shooter is
it's like saying DRG is a survival crafting game because you technically do both of those things

>>725236269
You're right. Super Mario World is an extraction game because you can take powerups from one level to the next.
Kill yourself ASAP

>>725236335
l4d is episodic. you aren’t extracting

>>725236149
they're making risk of dwarf which is literally risk of rain but risk of rain has a long list of ways in which it could be DRASTICALLY improved upon
>yeah just play like it's speedrun and autism max your shit with random trash better memorize all the items and their stats by memory and icon lol

>>725236432
nigga at the end of every l4d level you extract by boat or helicopter or van plane or van or something

>>725236432
>extracts via helicopter/boat/nascar
it's also a looter shooter since you pick up guns and then use them and a strategy game because you have to strategize to win

>Solo Doretta Escort
>Solo Industrial Sabotage
You can tell someone likes CBT.

>>725218878 (OP)
Sure, maybe not that tower side objective thing but that rarely appears.

Randoms are a lot better in this game than most games though.

>>725236506
extract to….? exactly
>>725236552
>looter shooter
true

This thread is full of shills or something. Yes, you can solo most of it, and I encourage you to do so. I had multiple bad experiences playing this with randos online. Not because they were terrible at the game or anything like that, but they will kick you randomly, for no reason or because they forgot to put password in their room to play with their friends. Either play solo or play with you actual real life friends, don't ever play it with randoms

>>725230057
personally i always host public lobbies because i want 0 latency and i have no friends wanting to play this. I always enjoy a chaotic evacuation when the timer is ticking down and somebody dies and its a race against time to get them back up and make it back to the drop pod. I don't mind new players in my lobby even if they die a dozen times. I do have no tolerance for teamkilling or blatant trolling though which is just a waste of everyone's time and being blown up by driller's c4 or engineer nuke gets old quick.

>>725236680
This. You only have to play for a few hours until the game gets repetitive so it’s not a large investment.

>>725236650
can you describe what you do in real life briefly? do you like condensation off of windows or something?

>>725236680
that's why you always host so you can kick people who are annoying.

>>725236804
I don’t mind condensation

>>725236845
One time some fucking asshole and his faggot friends made me waste like 20 min doing a escort mission just to kick one the last portion of it. Reason was something along the lines of "forgot to put a pass, this was a private game, sorry bro". This community can go suck a dick, not even joking. This happens all the time btw. I don't talk, I'm alright at the game, I help with the objectives and such. I learned my leason. Worst community of any coop fps I've ever played

>>725237283
You're a small guy.

>>725237291
that’s the community in all reddit/discord games. ffxiv is like that but they’ll lie to your face if you’re a sprout

>>725237291
you can't get kicked if you are the host but i understand your frustration. the game has its faults and there are idiots unfortunately.

what funny thing should i call my server, i just leave it at The Pit Stop

>>725218878 (OP)
YOU CAN
BOSCO IS GREAT
FUCK ANY OTHER NIIIGGGERRRR ITT TELLING YOU OTHERWISE
FUCK THEM HARD

>>725219025
>On Haz 5? You'll probably be constantly out of ammunition and swarmed. It's a team game.

This is retarded. You get all 4 resups to yourself, and bugs scale with number of players. If anything, it can be harder with 4 players because any number of the other players may not be carrying their own weight in terms of bugs killed.

The worst thing about solo haz 5 is that its boring. Carrying the other 3 players' bugs is what makes it actually somewhat challenging and fun.

>player joins
>after not even 10 minutes, he gets down either for a fuck up or a horde
>quits
Every time..

>>725218878 (OP)
It's a game you play to have fun, and it's more fun with other people.

>>725237431
jej

>>725238062
Depends on the loadout. The rare few times I played solo I had to change my loadout because some equipment doesn't get a lot of kill out of each resupply, while others go very far.

>>725230459
I've had three different instances of a dude where he'd waste time at the end by not getting in the escape pod, he would just purposely attempt to kill other teammates and stand around. Absolute psycho.

>>725238801
Why are people like this?

>>725238801
so glad i host my own games, only time ive kicked is when someone is friendly firing constantly or shooting 20 fat boys within a few seconds

>>725235210
Cooperative game with 4 different classes. Each class has a unique tool necessary to navigate randomly generated cave networks, mining minerals and competing assignments.

I loved the game at launch but it just got more and more cringe as time went on. I loved calling my lobbies "Join to die instantly"

>>725238994
I mostly kill scouts who fuck off 150m ahead of you, while your team is stuck collecting resources from the ceiling, fighting swarms with no lights. Then they die and cry for someone to res them.
I insta kick. Go play with bosco if you wanna play singleplayer with a resbot.

deep rock was the most fun I've had in gaming in the last decade. Why did the playerbase fall off a cliff?

>>725238801
If I see this while joining your game, I play along in the lobby until I can C4 the host (or the entire team), then leave as quickly as I can.
Play like a faggot, get fucked in the ass in return.

>>725239182
it became a reddit game instead of just "Ghostship's game"

>>725230459
>kicking them randomly
Yeah I had to put some canadian faggot on my steam blocklist because he would just kick everyone that joined, I hope he's dead.

>>725238801
level is irrelevant but if I see some dogshit troll loadout youre getting the boot

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes, Bosco is a very good boi. Upgrade him ASAP if you're just soloing.

>>725218878 (OP)
it is not possible to play "all" of the game at all. it doesnt have an ending. you're asking if you can solo mario kart.

>>725240330
Technically mario kart does have an ending and a credits roll.

i like playing modded lobbies

>>725243294
What do modded lobbies look like?

>they had solid gold with DRG but cannibalized it for Rogue Core

I'm worried for the future lads.

>>725220054
Shut the fuck up, you obnoxious faggot. You no-fun allowed metacucks are a fucking pest

>>725243684
He's right tho. Haz 3 is like mega babby mode and 4 is the normal "I fancy a quick game not too sweaty" mode. With a good team, every difficulty outside of mods is easy.

>>725243684
>no-fun allowed is when you like having things to shoot in a first-person shooter
go play a horror game if you want to shit your pants out of fear of a singular monster.

>>725243850
>every difficulty outside of mods is easy.
Haz 5 2222 is shit, I hate waiting for the drop pod with no ammo

>>725243521
more bugs and crazier cave gens, mod io is shit though.

>>725244572
objective: hoxxes

>>725244572
This looks miserable.

>>725245690
It's actually the best thing ever, you just wouldn't understand

>>725244572
I fucking hate these servers

>>725243521
public ones are generally horrible. too many mods like a 12 year old hosting their first gmod server.
the d*scord ones are better but then you have to deal with their speedrunner autism.

i miss when /v/ hosted drg lobbies all day for a few weeks. was incredibly fun.

>>725244572
if it wasnt for the drilldozer this could actually be fun

>>725239182
The game hasn't been updated in a while, devs are focused on meme core
They said they'd make season6 AFTER meme core gets to released tho

>>725246736
I never saw a drilldozer die on a modded server and I've played that mission like 100 times

>>725247286
Most of the seasonal content so far has been dogshit anyway. 2 seasons of robots, 2 seasons of rockpox. GSG are bad at game design.

>>725219069
Does Bosco despawn when a second player joins? I always played with full lobbies

>>725223673
I KINDA get how youre feeling, it doesnt influence how I play tho, it was definitely designed to play as 4. There're limited combinations of bioms, missions and mission mods, you are going to experience it all anyways. Playing this game alone feels empty. You dont feel like a part of the team on hard expedition where each member is useful in his own way. It gets annoying when playing solo when you have to do shit your class isnt that good at. Also when youre experimenting with builds your team can carry if it doesnt work out. There are no clutches on solo missions, you just go down couple times and it ends while with 4 people as long as at least 1 person lives you can try to solo save a hard mission. You dont have anyone to show of your dumb cosmetics, and a lot of people play just to collect shit.

>>725247575
They could revive the game with a proper balance patch desu
Some weapon changes from vanilla weapon adjustments are very interesting, some very retarded.
But I love the thunderhead changes

>>725247678
Yeah. It can be a little awkward if he's carrying something like a crystal for you and suddenly it's dropped down a chasm.

OP here. The only game I've bought in the last decade. Thanks for the shilling.

>>725250925
at least jump in to low diff pubs

>>725250925
nice

I haven't actually properly played drg in ages, just solo speedrunning holiday hat missions on haz 1 to keep my collection at 100%, but this thread had been making me want to actually play it again for a bit...

lobby where

>>725218878 (OP)
DRG's community is generally patient and forgiving. Playing with randoms is a very pleasant experience, even as a newbie.

>>725251450
>to keep my collection at 100%
for what purpose. are you going to sell your steam account in 20 years for its ultra rare 100% complete DRG hat collection (untradable)?

>>725251676
hat autism, simple as

ugh I NEED MORE HATS AND ARMOR AAAAAAAAAAA

>>725222882
>waiting
Unless your host is a prick, there's nothing preventing you from going faster. If your teammates have any idea what they are doing, they usually follow suit. Sometimes it's polite to ask before pressing buttons, but usually you can just feel it.

perhaps it's time

>>725256579
perchance

>>725258661
I have 130hrs and only ever played scout

WE'RE RICH

when did you realize more than half of the mission types in DRG are trash
when did you realize the game is mired in wasted potential because of retarded devs that put all their gay spinoffs first and keep DRG in end-of-life mode

>>725218878 (OP)
No, the stupid devs added multiplayer achievements. You're going to need frens if you want 100%. Sucks but it's true. Hopefully future devs will be smarter and make sure that there are no multiplayer / online achievements. So that anyone who buys the game will be able to do everything, all on their own, as it should be.

>>725258931
*shingaringaring*
You're a good mule, Molly!

>>725259117
I wish to violate Molly while the other dwarves aren't looking

>>725259802
Don't do that, molly will eat you and nobody will know to get you out

>>725259874
She has an emergency escape button on the inside

>>725260150
just digests you faster

>>725218878 (OP)
>through the game
Anon its like L4D2 or TF2, you'll be sinking at least 500-1000 hours into it.
Yes, you can play solo but the game shines in a squad with 4 randoms.
There's no voice chat and no need for voice chatting, and about the most communication you'll ever see is "r" in chat.

>>725224282
Haz5 2x spawns is the new Haz5.

>>725224406
This guy is right.
Haz4 is about as spicy as the typical 80% of the playerbase games journalist is going to get.

In my experience:
>Haz5+ is sweaties that want to feel the burn.
>Haz5 is the "typical player" in the eyes of vidya internet forums
>Haz4 is the typical retard that's not good enough for Haz5 but thinks he's good but "just wants to chill"
>Haz3 is casuals
>Haz2 is greenbeards and hypercasuals.
>No idea who the fuck plays Haz1 if anyone, iunno a noob trying to skip an Assignment mission with shitty modifiers?

>>725229978
Yeah well said.
Haz4 is usually "no excuse for losing" so IF you happen to lose, salty Chinese lose their fucking shit at you in chat.

>>725230386
Its on life support cuz the devs keep trying to push $200 board games and side project cashgrabs instead of adding more shit to Deep Rock.
Small dev teams tend to do this when their first game was a massive hit but they cant get anything else to land.
If they start to run out of money they'll release another cosmetic DLC and make enough from it to scrape by.

>>725219567
>to play in lower difficulties which will significantly slow down your grinding
They definitely fucked with the XP gain in the last couple of years because missions give fuck all now.
Like you're lucky to crack 7k on a mission now unless you get a Double XP mission (which are rarer now there's more modifiers)

>>725222882
anon the game is quite literally just "shoot the 100s of bugs coming out of the walls"
You're not exactly signing up for Baldur's Gate 3.
Its L4D2 with Dwarves.

>>725234818
This only happened to me one time ever
Tho on a deep dive

>>725262583
You gotta go for the gold bro
Its right there

>>725239182
Devs decided to focus on projects no one wants

the game was too easy for too long and a lot of people quit playing before the devs finally added haz5+ but every modifier outside of extra bugs is garbage aswell
haz5 with extra bugs is very fun though

>>725245690
it actually refreshed my enthusiasm for the game, it's super fun to play when the game has so much shit to do, especially if you have multiple players

I don't have any online friends so I enjoy being able to play a co-op game I can play with randos.

driller > engi > gunner > scout

>>725264247
Grapple is so fun tho

>>725265026
it is but on haz5+ I like having more crowd clear and terraforming the environment is satisfying

>>725265354
Scout is really good at clearing swarms on H5+

>>725265469
b8

Do you guys think this game needs any balance changes? Like if Scout was a bit better would people complain about the class less?

>>725218878 (OP)
reddit and stone!

>>725266706
People don't complain about scouts because the class itself was bad, but because scunts don't do their damn job and die on the ceiling instead.

>>725266706
This >>725267298 most scouts don't know how to play one. Good scout light cave with flares, get hard to get minerals and revive downed teammembers. It's mobility class that have visibility tool.
Meanwhile most scouts simply fuck off and die somewhere far faw away from team, somewhere on celling, or spwan on driller's c4 nanosecond before eplosion.

So what about -other game-?
Anyone here in the playtest?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2605790/Deep_Rock_Galactic_Rogue_Core/

>>725268778
From what i've seen i believe this one will be a nightmare to play with randoms compared to the other game. Mite b cool though.

>>725218878 (OP)
I'm going to be brutally honest anon.
Yes, you can solo. It can be more or less difficult at times if you are experienced. It's easier to get lost in the game when you are solo and I think that's good in a way.

However unlike most of the shitskulls replying to you, no, bosco is not really a good substitute for a team. Most of the time they do fine, you do have to manually tell them to do stuff (you laser point and ping things). The problem with bosco is they are dogshit at killing. They are good at slowing, mining, and carrying shit for you, but their firepower is complete trash. You cannot rely on them in escort duty (drilldozer) in the same way you could for a team. Some modifiers can also fuck you over if you are solo because stuff like haunted cave makes it so molly's leash mechanic runs inside the big explosive ghost that nukes you so it makes those missions incredibly tedious if it isn't rooted in place like the mining rig in point extractions.

Specifically for you OP, since you probably don't know what any of that means, that loosely translates to "Solo robot teammate is bad at damage (bad in heavy combat), good at everything else. Spooky ghost missions bad solo." Outside of some very specific shit the solo robot is fine, and solo is in turn fine.

Don't be afraid of playing with randoms though. They're fine 99% of the time. I can count shitty stupid bastards on my hands and that's with 3.4k hours.

>>725269513
Bosco is better than (You). Simple as.

>>725269595
I don't see that barrel-monkey repairing the drilldozer

>>725218878 (OP)
For fuck's sake, just join random peoples' lobbies. Nobody cares if they know you or not. If you're going to be that big of a coward don't even play it.

>>725229978
>(game is purportedly balanced around 4)
I think you mean haz 3. The devs don't even play haz 4, even though the game is way too easy below it.

>>725230057
People let each other down every day. It's not a big deal. If you wipe, you wipe. Anyone who is going to bear a grudge over funny digging dwarf game for more than an hour is a miserable cunt and you probably shouldn't care what they think of anyone.

>>725218878 (OP)
Most of those hours are solo (typically basic Haz 5 or Haz 4 if I'm feeling lazy) with only about a 1/5th of the time playing with other players because I feel like the atmosphere and the immersion then goes out of the window somewhat
I love the action going against the hordes of enemies on my own. I like dark caves. I love exploring the unknown. I love delving deeper into the depths. It has almost S.T.A.L.K.E.R. like qualities at times oddly enough, especially if you turn off your character's chatter. It's almost criminal DRG doesn't have a campaign of sorts, even something loose would do, the season assignments are not enough. And I fucking love the music
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnOqg7SSlA

>>725218878 (OP)
>>725270551
I should also mention that I started playing early this year and almost exclusively run Gunner. I love big guns, explosions and ammo efficiency, though I've been trying out Engineer lately

>>725235210
Funny dwarves doing dangerous missions on a hazardous planet.

>>725218878 (OP)
Playing with randos is really fun. None of my faggot friends wanted to buy it and i've been playing for years having tons of fun.

>>725270551
Fellow gunner enjoyer.
I still love multiplayer lobbies though, because they spawn more bugs. Those moments where everybody is dying separate from me and my shield make my heart glow and my resupplies double.

>>725271207
I played with my friends but somehow playing with randoms is more enjoyable...

>>725271389
Yeah exactly. I never said i prefered to play with my friends, they're playing league and battlefield and other slop

>>725271315
Yeah, there's almost nothing quite like covering Driller's advance to downed dwarves as a Gunner and the following mad dash while the Drop Pod is waiting when the 1:20 hits
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eRGbxAqYF4

>>725258931
LOOKS OVER HERE
WE'RE RICH

>>725269513
Don't you dare shittalking Bosco like that

ROCK AND *Burp*

>>725218878 (OP)
Elite deep dives are the only ones you can't reasonably solo.
Also elimination missions are absolutely miserable if you get a hive guard

>>725273294
>Elite deep dives are the only ones you can't reasonably solo.
Nah
>Also elimination missions are absolutely miserable if you get a hive guard
AoE weapons

>>725273103
I will shit-talk him until the retarded devs give him the ability to repair the drilldozer instead of a "guard" function that doesn't even work, because you have to establish sight with the bugs for him to attack them there. They are better-suited for repair-work, they can even work on pipes.
It is the only time I would ever do so because it is GSG's greatest mistake and bosco's one and only major flaw. If you have to repair the dozer for any reason, bosco can't kill the bugs reasonably, so it turns the match into spamming repairs to abuse the invincibility frames or trying to kill as many bugs as possible before a part breaks. A teammate could just hold E while you clear them off, so why not bosco? It's the same damn thing.
No instead they fucked off to make rogue chore. So yes, I am resentful and mald over it to this day.

>>725273574
I'm not disagreeing with you, it's definitely something GSG should implement
But Bosco is trying his best. It's not his fault

>>725218878 (OP)
This is the easiest game ever to jump in a game with randoms, there's no barrier, it's quick and orders of magnitude more fun with randoms compared to solo.
Don't play solo.

t. friendless loser with 0 (zero) steam friends

>>725273848
As an old gamer who has played tons of different multiplayer games, this is worth stating:
DRG has probably the best playing with randos experience out of any game. I don't know what it is about this game, but it just has a really low concentration of shitty, rude, annoying behavior and a really high concentration of friendly, fun, helpful behavior. Not to say that there's never an asshole, but overall the pub experience is way better in this game than most.

>>725273294
if you get elimination as the weekly you just go solo haz 1 and blast it in 30 seconds

>>725273294
There's people who even solo speedrun EDD. /v/ is just shit at games as usual.

>>725274243
My fastest was 49 minutes as a Gunner

>>725250925
Based and same
Already played 2200 hours fuck year

>>725218878 (OP)
Die like your mother did.

>>725222882
I play this with randos all the time and have fun.

>>725274006
Coming from DotA to DRG randos was a cultural shock desu

>>725219025
if you find solo haz5 hard, you are not pulling your weight in team matches (basically you're everyones weak little bitch)

>>725218878 (OP)
instead of playing solo just look for lobbies, the community is very good

>>725273294
Any Escort mission fucking sucks to solo. It's slow, it's tedious to fill both fuel cells yourself, and nobody else will guard Doretta save your pathetic drone. The final battle swarms Dotty too, so you can't just kite everything around like every other game mode.

>>725274168
Why would you even play the game if you're going to haz 1 it?

>start game solo
>get overwhelmed by things to do
>never know what the fuck to do with missions
>try this mission with low oxygen and apparently have to build some pipes
>give up after 20 minutes or so
This game is too complicated.

the announcement of Rogue Core instead of making a proper DRG sequel or prequel killed 90% of desire to keep playing. I've only played a small handful of rounds since.

>female dwarves got added to the new DRG game
>the new AI character that replaces mission control is just a lame vectorized logo icon has no personality

welp, another game taken away from the boys.

>>725282016
What's the point of making sequel for a game this complete? It will never be same/good enough and people will bitch it missing x y z or doing this or that differently.

>>725282529
also this is a female dwarf, kind of cool it keeps a beard, knowing how dwarves are, but it bothers me that they kill the male-only nature of what is the game known for.

>>725282543
Then don't remove anything. Take DRG and improve its systems and add equipment. The reasoning we keep getting that they don't do that is because of tech debt so redo it. No one wants a combat focused DRG game Rogue Core is going for.

>>725282695
>just make the same game again and sell it again

>>725282016
>>725282695
Has Rogue Core really that much less focus on terrain deformation/destruction and mining?

>>725282695
>just make new game
>make it the same
>just add like 5 new guns
Anon, we alredy have this, it's called seasons, because seasons alredy add skins and poses but also new weapons, grenades and overclocks.
Rogue Core is their "sequell" to DRG because it's diferent game that can't ba just made into update path for main game.

At this point I'm fully convinced DRG is the best game we got in these 5 years
Everything about the game just works and it's hard to find something to really complain about
Also honestly they should stop bloating the game and declare season 6 is the last one

>>725282543
By that dumb logic no sequel for any "complete" game would ever be made. Different biomes with better tech for more varied generation, more on-screen enemies, different enemy types with better behaviour etc, or a prequel set on a home planet could've given us a fantasy-tinged DRG in their mines of moria or whatever they had a long time ago.

By the devs own admition the code is a mess and they're at its limits, so a proper sequel or prequel would allow a fresh start to improve upon what they did with DRG.

>>725283021
I doubt they'll make season 6 because drg is a game that has been in work since 2016 in unreal engine and it's code is very fucking messy and hard to work around and that's the main reason why rogue core got made into an standalone game and not a dlc

>>725281095
because everything outside of elimination is fun

>>725283264
Sequell usually moves story forward or does something diferent.
DRG is live service game, it have no story and it works by being updated with seasons.
Any sequell would be opportunistic cashgrab, especially since you can just add stuff from said sequell in update.

>>725281095
NTA but sometimes assigment like weekly cores or sesonal like christmas have some bullshit mission you don't like or you don't have time play and assigment expires soon, so you play at haz1/2 to speedrun it and get stuff.
How do I know it? Because I finished 2 sesonal assigment for current cosmetics and past ones on last day.

>>725218878 (OP)
Yes you can solo, but you're going to get bored of the game really fucking quick. I have over 1000 hours and I only have about 15 missions completed solo. Play a mission or two of each class to get to know the game and then start joining randos or hosting. The vast majority of players are typically chilly especially with noobs. Just don't be one of those people who ignores every shred of advice thrown your way.

>>725283639
Yes so reason: I play the game for the skinnerbox and fomo rewards

>>725230057
That’s actually part of the fun in this game.

>>725223403
You can only go down a couple times in solo, meanwhile you can stall for as long as someone is still standing or has IW in coop, not to mention players can kill more effectively and do objectives on their own, therefore coop is easier, the only thing that makes coop "harder" is that you have to share resupply pods

I wish this game had a factory gamemode similar to satisfactory, it would fit with the corpo/industrial setting it has. Refinery missions are someway close at least

>>725283639
Game modes aren't so different that 1 is way worse than any other. It's all the same core gameplay. If I feel like playing the game, I just do the mission set in front of me. And every mission is only like 20 minutes regardless, so unless you are counting minutes to seasonal event ending, you may as well play it on a real difficulty.

>>725284263
That could be fun. I would play a mode like that.

>>725284284
>Game modes aren't so different that 1 is way worse than any other
>Industrial Sabotage
>Escort
>Elimination
They either take longer time than rest or are bordeline unplayable without right build(or with wrong one). Example Driller without mission specific build sucks at sabotage and eliminations. Sabotage is also very gimmicky and for good reason it's least popular mission.

>>725284521
>Driller without mission specific build sucks at sabotage
1. Drill an attic
2. Drop C4 until Caretaker changes mode
Repeat 2 times.

>>725236610
>>725280949
>>725284521
I kinda like solo Escorts and Sabotages. Always plenty of Nitra to go full-on guns blazing and utilising everything at my disposal without much regard to ammo conservation. And they absolutely can be blitz'd through fast enough if you want to

>>725284521
I love how buttblasted Sabotage makes people. If you build for it, it's easy
>>725284968
Escort is gay and easily the worst mission. Takes too long compared to the others.

>>725284521
Escort takes the same amount of time regardless of difficulty. You might as well PLAY THE GAME instead of kill like 2 glyphids while doretta goes the same damn speed.

>Elimination
>Industrial Sabotage
That's just sad if you can't expend the minimum effort it takes to beat this games' bosses on haz 4.

Forgot, you also have the retards that insist on pre-drilling on escort and have a melty if you press start before they're done.

>>725285028
>start Dotty immediately as she drops in
>mine Nitra along the way as she digs
>speedrun refuelling
>immediately start breaking into Ommoran Heartstone and call in Supply Drop or two because Nitra is plentiful
You're done in less than 15 minutes, 20 tops

>>725285191
This is why you host when it's escort. What are they gonna do when you press the button? Your server, your rules.

I love escort
>A gorillion bugs for driller and gunner to shoot
>Engie gets to use plat repellant and proxy mines everywhere
>Scoutards can't run ahead

>>725285191
>pre-drilling on escort
No fucking way anyone does that
What is this inane faggotry?

>escort is already one of the longest mission types, if not the longest
>idiots make it twice as long with predrilling

>>725285478
pre drilling is usefull on 5+ and edd, especially edd when it's last stage and there is suprise bulk spawned just to ruin your run.
But on haz 4 pre drilling is faggy move.

>>725285689
Predilling is always faggy. No exceptions.

>>725285689
Yeah, this >>725285769
Couldn't write it fast enough

>>725285306
Too bad randos almost never prioritize refueling so you usually have to fight an extra swarm or two.

>>725285853
Good thing we were talking about solo then.

>>725285992
Bosco doesn't help that much with refueling either if you end up in one of those Complexity 3 caves the size of Belgium with two nodes of oil shale in opposite corners. You can tell him to mine oilshale, protect dotty(poorly) or carry the refueling aparatus, but that will still take lots of time with lots of running back and forth.

>>725218878 (OP)
if you really care to only solo, watch this, it's a good coverage of the basics imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHe2-hc0-_o

I fucking hate industrial sabotage and will haz 1 it every single time.

>>725283463
Its not live service though, it's fully playable offline and it didn't even have seasons at first

>>725285769
And I will not lose EDD because rng decided to fuck me over with bulk or some other bullshit.

>>725273294
>>725274243
This guy doesn't speedrun but has been soloing the dives religiously for years and has become quite efficient at it.
https://www.youtube.com/@USteppin/videos

>>725218878 (OP)
It's boring as fuck solo.

>>725285689
The ONLY excuse for predrilling is a crassus. Anything else and you are a homosexual.

>>725286290
That's actually pretty decent vid

>>725273294
I did EDD solo and i'm haz3 scrub only.
Not every EDD though. Never did some faggy conditions.

>>725286629
Predrilling doesn't protect you from bulks in EDD, retard.

Too bad there's no tracking stat for playing DD and EDD solo

>>725224608
Same thing happened to me around 10 hours, friends dipped out and never returned to it.
Since then I put another 2,523 hours into it mostly with randoms, I say mostly because sometimes I would find new buddies through DRG who I still play with.

>>725287405
It protect from prespawned ones that would ruin your run, most likely by having dorreta drill right into them.

>>725287423
We need a stat how many hours you spent on gunner elevator.

>>725287423
Difficulty scales to the amount of players in the match so you're playing ez mode when doing it solo.

>>725287590
>Not throwing a shield on doretta every time you enter a new room
>Not carrying leadbursters to kill them quickly
Skill issue

>>725288007
What if I'm playing engi or driller?

>>725287978
Only damage scales dude. And I ain't getting damaged and I ain't going down
And the enemy count and larger enemy resistances/health scale only with 3+ players and playing solo you have no-one to cover your ass while your have to multitask everything to pick up your slack

>>725287885
>he doesn't b-hop his zipline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bumz8fqMlFk

There is literally nothing wrong with pre-drilling escort
the only reason escort isn't the worst mission type is because sabotage took its spot and pre-drilling can give you an edge against the bs that can happen

>>725288414
Sorry to say but that's untrue.

>>725288607
>Solo = almost exact as difficulty with 2 players
>only observable difference starts with 3 players
Picrel, Praetorian scaling. It's pretty neglibile to be honest, especially compared to having several extra guns covering your back while you can easily tunnel vision your tasks

>>725224406
yes haz4 is explicitly for the rejects

I haven't played in over a year. Are modded 5+ lobbies still a thing?

>>725289131
It's hardly negligible, the scaling stats compound to make it significantly more difficult with a full lobby.

>>725218878 (OP)
No reason to solo this game the community is fun you might have trouble finding people for certain missions you need to do for new weapons, modes etc. so you can solo those if need be

>>725218878 (OP)
Just play with randos. Join the first haz 5 lobby you see and have fun.

>>725288398
pray your gunner isn't retarded

>>725282828
imagine if your missions were all linear morkite mining, except instead of winding hallways connecting the rooms they were short hallways
platforms still get used the same way but there's no scout to be on mineral duty, so they're more for personal use
same with drills to create ramps
ziplines have even fewer canyons to cross over so they're more like a ladder
there's a gravity field projector that may as well be a jump pad
grapple hook exists but it is rare and you can't start a mission with it.
pickaxes can always dig
terrain deformation takes the backseat in favor of just gunplay
I've only done like 5 missions since I got into the closed alpha and the mobility tools feeling samey due to a lower need for any of them paired with a swarm that doesn't really feel like it has an identity yet is a pretty big knock against it.
not being able to consistently have a set of guns (or even a singular gun) to be familiar with your class also is odd. it's like if you played every mission with randoweisser, but it also randomized your class. You go in with zero identity and can't rely on your teammates to have a combat identity either, at least until people get their weapons and upgrades

I wish there was a /v/ group. Only way to play VWA and custom bugs right now is with the gay redditor group.

Haven't played in a while but if my mods haven't broke I can host some Haz 5x2 if anyone's interested.

>>725263824
>but every modifier outside of extra bugs is garbage aswell
1k+ hours, aggression x2 is based as shit, more bugs is great but having 20 slow grunts instead of 10 slow grunts really does not mean anything if you've played a while, x2 aggro really challenges your ability to respond to every threat and makes special bugs genuinely intimidating
x2 durability and x2 player dmg are just stupid bullshit that genuinely adds nothing, especially player dmg, your dwarf in full armor is made of paper and a swarmer can easily down you in 3 hits

>>725290667
I feel like that's a regression on basically every axis. Does it at least feel like it has potential?

>>725289720
Assume Haz 5,
>4x firepower of 4 players (assume this being X = 1) and 1.5x increase in count, 3.6x damage modifier and 1.6 increase of health/resistance of the absolute majority of enemies and swarms
vs.
>1x firepower of one player (or 0.25 of X firepower) + Bosco and thus 0.85x count of enemies, 3x damage modifier and 1.3x health/resistance of most enemies encountered
I don't know man, it still kinda ends up as being roughly 1.5-2x more difficult than full lobby

>>725287405
If it's a crassus, yes it will. Those spawn on map generation. But honestly, the bigger "fuck you" is Korlok spawning.

>>725291851
I just write off a mission if korlok spawns anywhere near doretta's path.

>>725289720
>>725291484
Mind you, that's just numbers, not counting in the lack of utility, having only one class at your disposal and having to do most of work alone while fighting off the bugs. And Bosco doesn't have exactly the same utility as a proper player and a class
Swarms also don't get much changed in timing comparing solo vs. full lobby. The only proper advantage is having loads of ammo with just minimum Nitra

>>725290871
Be the change you want to see.

>>725292084
Maybe if it were 2022 again. I don't think there's enough interest in this game to sustain a group and I don't really feel like having to tard wrangle /v/ schizos who want group drama.

>>725219069
Killing Floor (1 and 2) are the same.

>>725291169
the different special enemies feel like threats, but the core swarm doesn't have the same kind of core identity as the grunts+variants, praetorian, and oppressor. They're just creepy crawlies that you shoot the face off in the exact same way. Personally I think that this is the biggest reason it feels like a letdown so far, I don't feel the same kind of kiting and target prioritization, I just click on all of the things until they stop moving.
I feel that with sufficient time I can get a better flow for how all of the weapons and upgrades feel.
As it currently stands it feels like a mashup of mechanics from roboquest, risk of rain, deep rock galactic, and shotgun king. but it's not pulling mechanics from DRG proper that were the primary draw of playing it: strong class identities and coop that relies on those class synergies. Right now I feel like we're just 4 badasses in a cave that are all superhuman in power, and the coop is from doing events together rather than from providing supportive firepower in the way that say scout would focus on HVTs and driller would mulch grunts to cover each other's weakness.

>>725292465
This. Unless there's a major new season, DRG is basically over. And I wouldn't count on that since their attention is almost certainly exclusively on Rogue Core now.

>>725270959
That's wild. You have to use all the dorfs, they all have a niche that they're really good at.

I can't imagine doing the oil-rig missions without playing as driller

>>725251450
If you cared about speedrunning, you'd play multiplayer on any difficulty. Solo is anything but "speed."

>>725291851
EDD, retard. No such things.
And even on regular mission it's a skill issue on your part.

>>725292670
Unfortunate. Even Roboquest and RoR had at least a bit of texture to each class though both of those fell prey to your item build taking over after you hit critical mass. Still, I don't want to compare DRG after years of refinement to an alpha. It'll hopefully congeal into something more substantive.

>>725293296
>no crassus in EDD
Well pardon me for not knowing that trivia by heart, autismo. Not all of us commit this shit to memory.

>>725293026
Absolutely. And I plan playing through other classes. But Gunner is just exactly my kind of jam, I just fucking love the conventional, overwhelming firepower of big guns, be it spitting lead or explosions
I'm just a simple man of simple tastes
>I can't imagine doing the oil-rig missions without playing as driller
You can pretty easily "dig" by repeatedly placing and deconstructing pipeline because of the terrain delete radius around it. It's especially effective if you make a directional, long, single-size hole beforehand, like digging three, four or five times in a single direction and then sticking the endpoint of a pipeline in there to do the digging for you

>>725293598
>I just fucking love the conventional, overwhelming firepower of big guns, be it spitting lead or explosions
I sympathize, but in-game his gigantic guns aren't that much stronger in practice. Gunner is fantastic for sustained fire, but there are circumstances that Engineer and Driller do some pretty nice burst damage. Maybe even better.

>>725293441
the way that the classes have identity is through their activated ability and their bio booster deck
The activated ability is simple enough to understand, the bio booster deck is a set of upgrades your class has access to when you interact with the bio booster modules.
it's not a horrible system but it doesn't really FEEL that impactful in how it solidifies a class's identity.
meanwhile DRG class identities are their mobility tool, their tool item, all 3 of their weapon slots and options within their respective category + mod/overclock options
it needs some work imo

>>725222882
Because every class is useful. The game isn't just shooting the bugs. There's objectives and terrain to navigate, and having all the available tools of every class helps. You can't control your teammates, but there's also nothing holding you back from doing anything yourself.

Take oil refinement for example. Driller is making tunnels to the wells, Engineer is platforming minerals and making bridges, Gunner is setting up lines and protecting the team, Scout is lighting up and collecting everything. It's actually hard to mess up because everyone is working on something, and when you succeed it feels good.

>>725262534
In the case of DRG the devs have already spent over half a decade on the game working up to release and have a razor thin view for any type of acceptable content that can be added to it. There's literally not a shred of story in the game, they'll never add new biome mechanics, melee is permanently off the table not even in rogue core etc etc etc. GSG already made their money they're just doing whatever they want now. That's fine but disappointing and I won't buy rogue core it looks really bad.

>>725285086
>the minimum effort it takes to beat this games' bosses on haz 4.
not having fun not doing it

>>725293956
Nothing beats VB

>>725293598
Driller is better at crowd controll and horde killer while engi is highest dps with most kills and most guns per capita.
Gunner is more of healer class thanks to his shield and his huns are mostly about sustained fire and taking down elites.
Tho with right build every class can do everything, like single target driller or aoe gunner.

>>725222882
Stop playing on babby difficulty. If you're waiting on a scout to finish mining nitra just go shoot some bugs in the meantime.

>>725294209
god forbid you improve enough to git gud

>>725294430
>If you're waiting on a scout to finish mining nitra just go shoot scout
fixed for ya.

>>725294927
imagine seething this much about people skipping shit parts of the game

>>725289587
Still a thing, yes.

>>725295081
Oh I'm not mad. it just seems anti-fun to coast through missions with the difficulty turned off. Why even play the game if you aren't enjoying the core gameplay?

>>725290871
>>725292084
You don't want this, trust me, I formed a /v/ group years back and it turned into a cesspool.
Ate itself alive the moment I left.

>>725295202
because the core gameplay turns to shit in elimination and sabotage where its the same exact boss fights over and over removing the random generation element of the game

>>725294334
>while engi is highest dps with most kills and most guns per capita.
Up to a point and then his effectiveness drops off a cliff on very high difficulties. Turret dps is actually pretty low and he has very few truly broken builds like Gunner and Driller. PGL's stats are shit, Shotgun is mainly used for turret whip spam and same for Stubby with em discharge. LOK is a nice ranged burst damage option but still inferior to scout's weapons. Shard is just a poor man's sticky flames in any situation that isn't a big open cave. Breach cutter is really his only stand out weapon. Engie's best asset is platform repellent to funnel bugs.

>>725292465
would give it a try on a impromptu/v/eekend

>>725295472
if you're any good you can treat them as a challenge, split off and/or stack them to go faster

>>725295623
Imo engie is the most versatile class at the cost of low ammo, but that's never an issue with a decent team.
You can always cover 2-3 roles with the proper loadout.

>>725295623
While his first 2 primaries are mostly gimmick, LOK with exploding bullets is fucking menace, turrets are free dps you only give ammo from time to time and secondaries while agree that pgl is mostly meme with rocket jump and fatboy, it's also usefull with hyperprop against dreadnots and breach cutter and shard difractor are very good, cutters at deleting everything in front of you and shard as high damage beam, hell it have red overclock with no downsides that strongly increase damage.
Engi almost always wrap up most kills.
Engi is good at clearing grunts and at killing elites.

>>725296098
>>725295623
keep in mind the kill count is for killing shots, turrets finish off a lot of bugs for you

Its dogshit now, they added far too much grind.

>>725295934
how mentally ill do you have to be to do something you hate for the sake of being "good"?

>>725294430
I mean that's also the thing: it basically turns into a game where you try to farm most score vs your team. And this also means that I feel like I have to use good builds because otherwise I just lose the score game and get carried.

>>725296678
They're tedious yes but I like the game enough that I'd rather make them fun in some way than drop to haz1 and just turn off my brain for 10m.

>>725296816
Complete the objectives and get out. Who cares about your score. Just don't go down.

>>725289587
i host them all the time

>>725297323
Maybe my opinion is outdated but I just remember that losing wasn't really a thing unless people grief on purpose. And then if you lose it's just like yeah some clown took all the ammo and now it's just endless kiting or accept your death.

>>725293476
It's not really trivia to know that the only event to spawn in Deep Dives is Huuli Hoarder.

Yes you can play solo but it's the best game to play with randoms. That being said updates killed the game by just not being fun.
>Rockpox jannie work
>Meteors that divide the team on whether you should do them or ignore them
>New bugs that are really, really unfun

>>725295623
ok but, exploding platforms

>>725298107
rockpox can suck my dick but I like meteors and the new bugs

>>725298107
I haven't seen a single lithophage warning since season 5, and I can count on one hand the amount of corruptors I've come across.

>>725298301
meme

>>725296098
laser without VIR (the one that gives it sticky flames to it) is a bit of a meme. nothing beats that weapon in terms of sheer wave clear and it's just as damaging directly.
tho my fav became roll control breach cutter, simply for the ability to be steered and create a shaped path with plasma trail

>>725219025
>On Haz 5? You'll probably be constantly out of ammunition and swarmed.
found the scout

>>725219025
Solo is easier because you don't have to carry retarded scouts.

>>725298301
Despite trying damn near every OC the game has to offer, this is just too silly for me to give an honest try.

>>725243569
Indie sequels generally flop because nobody knows it exists for example Moving Out 2. That's why Landfall Games have been praised as a unicorn case the kings of friend slop.

>>725300493
Scout actually needs ammo the least because he can skip enemies and speedrun objectives. And he also farms most ammo because he can find nitra the fastest. I've even done EDD with lvl 1 scout solo because to prove how much you can lame with scout.

>>725293956
As far as I'm concerned, Gunner has some exquisite burst damage
>Elephant Rounds
>Volatile Bullets
>Lead Spray
>damage-oriented Coil Gun builds
>pretty much all weak-point oriented builds on Hurricane, BRT7 and Bulldog

>>725290871
I'm making a discord for organizing games. Text only because I can't be bothered moderating it but it'll have a mod list and a few voice channels.

>>725303714
Remember to include modded lobbies if more than 4 players want to join, using Mint works too.

>>725303714
Why not use the /vm/ thread instead of being a discord faggot?

>>725304376
pretty sure /vm/ doesn't have a group either and some mods aren't on mod.io
also it's just easier to organize games if you can schedule them ahead of time

>>725304530
My apologies, I wasn't clear in communicating my point. Let me clear up the confusion: I'm asking why you don't use the /vm/ thread which is persistent over a long time to organise games instead of resorting to third party sites like discord.

/vm/ never hosts, they just argue about overclocks. i tried hosting their and here and got told to go fuck myself.

>Tried every class except driller
>Wasn't sure if I would like it so I left it for last
>Finally try it
>I love it so much its my most promoted class and have the most time played on
GRILL EM AND DRILL EM

>>725304901
Nigger nobody has hosted a game on /vm/ since fucking MAY. I have tried hosting on /vm/ in the past but it's so slow nobody ever shows up and trying to do anything modded is out of the question because nobody wants to setup mint just to join 1 lobby a month.

>>725305325
Based Drillerbro
t. Gunnerfag

>>725305338
faggots over there don't even like mods

>>725222882
anon have you ever been checked for autism?

>>725230057
letting your team down is fine, raging on mic isn't

>>725235210
left 4 dead in space

What happened to deep rock galactic survivor?

>>725273294
I've done edd solo as all 4 classes just to say I did

>>725306323
Nothing. Its out of early access.
Pretty fun. Not as overbearing as other VS type games.

>>725306554
I heard 1.0 was ass...

>>725218878 (OP)
No. I bought it and tried. Dogshit game. I'm definitely not playing with any of the retarded fucks who would simp over it. I spent like $5 and it was a waste.

>>725306796
(You)

>>725303714
https://discord.gg/fk8px8aW

>>725308623
I'll host a haz 5x2 game in a few minutes once my mods finish updating.

>>725308623
see if this works
steam://joinlobby/548430/109775241517187297/76561198001958265
5x2 salvage

>>725309517
forgot to add pass is rage

>>725306323
>>725306554
>>725306717
So is it worth buying? I'm getting mixed signals here

>>725310762
you like walking around an isometric cave while your weapons shoot at hordes of bugs?

>>725310762
Do you like number go up slop? That's really the only criteria.

>>725274006

I'm still not sure what the exact formula that makes the rando experience lightyears better than pretty much any other coop game. DRG's stylization and completely non-serious atmosphere might drive away the most sweaty of tryhard retards. The majority of class abilities you'll be using constantly for yourself all benefit the team. The ping system is so simple but has enough contexts to inform everyone of practically every scenario in the game. Various enemies are designed around being inconvenient for individuals and the mule mechanic naturally enforces sticking together. You have to deliberately go out of your way to fuck it up others, while the consequences are minor and it is obvious to spot from a mile away. Every class has something they can do to carry in the worst circumstances, so while you get the 100+ or kick lobbies, there are a sizeable chunk of veteran players that just like helping new ones as if it is some extra difficulty modifier.

It's just a shame Ghost Ship didn't build out more content for it. It's a fine game for what it is and the monetization strategy/season content was one of the best compromises in the business. I don't like the look of anything they are doing for Rogue Core though.

>>725238801
>play only for fun
what else would I play video games for? Unless you are a pro-player who earns money playing video games, if you play for any other reason than to have fun you are a massive retarded faggot
>I play for self improvement
lmao

>>725309517
Come on /v/ stop being elves and come kill some bugs

>>725312228
I'm at work

>>725312540
We're almost at bump limit. I know there are at least 3 people in this thread who can play but are being bitches right now.

>>725312738
i used to host, good luck trying to find anyone

>>725313168
back to playing with retarded randoms...

>>725265573
has never used phero in his life

>>725313872
randoms are fine. i play with bigger lobby and haz 5+ they usually can't handle the extra damage though

>>725314046
randoms tend to struggle on 5x2 or higher. I like to play on 6x2 but I've only gotten a pub that could handle it 1 time.

Thoughts on Survivor?

>>725270959
Gunner can clutch out missions like no other class can.

>>725304376
everyone on /vm/ is too jaded and bitter to have fun
I remember when things were different

thoughts on the new classes from the new game? i like all of them

>>725316974
I'd have an opinion if I could actually try them.

>>725316974
nobody got an invite

>>725312228
>>725309517
nah, it's bed time in my time zone
have fun, lads

>>725317325
>>725317943
well i got one. do you want me to teach you about them?

>>725290667
>>725292670
That doesn't sound promising to say the least
One thing that always stood up to me is that to me, the artstyle doesn't feel as coherent compared to DRG. I can't really put my finger on it proper, but in general, the colour palette feels somewhat off, there's like everpresent shine on things instead of proper darkness, there's also like almost plasticky feel to objects and surfaces. It feels weird