Thread 725295171

The Starcraft universe is literally BURSTING with opportunities for multiple game titles across many different genres. Yet they choose to continuously pump out eSports garbage games that no one outside small autist communities cares about. Just off the top of my head:

>Stealth/action game (like SC: Ghost) with the gameplay like Splinter Cell/MSGV
>Battlefield-like multiplayer shooter with the 3 playable factions
>RPG shooter
>Coop horde mode shooter with char progression

And on, and on. Blizzard's missing a big opportunity to expand their repertoire.

They make all their money selling skins now.

>>725295171 (OP)
Its kindof wild that noone saw the success of Helldivers 2 and decided to rip it off, there are a few IPs that could run away with it via their resources.

>>725295171 (OP)
it sucks they just abandoned this franchise

>>725295171 (OP)
What makes you think blizzkikes can make any game let alone a good game at this point?

>>725295171 (OP)
Reminder that the starcraft battlefield game was a real thing they cancelled

I want to walk into a Barracks and talk to marines. I want to stand next to a Siege Tank. I want to step inside an SCV like the power armor in fallout 4. I want to get picked up by a Dropship with a bunch of my marine buddies after finishing a mission. I want to feel the bleak yet hopeful atmosphere of SC1 from a 1st or 3rd person perspective. I want to fuck up some zerglings as they try to overrun our base while we wait for evac. I want to be able to look up at the sky to see a Protoss Carrier emerge from Warp space over Tarsonis.

Microsoft owns 50 gorillion IPs and is doing nothing with most of them. I can imaging them announcing a SC game and then canceling it after 5 years of development because it was somehow mismanaged and no one ever thought to do a progress check.

>What the fuck is Blizzard doing?
Blizzard is making games for different companies under different names. Activision Blizzard is coasting off of IPs that previous employees have made and cannot create anything innovative with them.

>>725295171 (OP)
I would do some sort of multiverse crossover between Starcraft and Halo, now that MS owns both.
After Legacy of the Void and the 343 games, both of them are in such a damaged and messy state that you can't really hurt their canons or storylines by doing this.
It should lean heavily into how the universes have sets of major factions which closely mirror each other
>what do the Terrans think of the UNSC?
>what do the Protoss think of the Covenant (or its successors)?
>what do the Zerg think of the Flood?
>what do the Xel'naga think of the Forerunners?
and so on

>>725295171 (OP)
Keeping the current games on life support makes more money for higher ups.

>>725298636
This, Blizzard is a shambling reanimated corpse. Apropos somehow, isn't it? There is no ambition to do anything worthwhile with the property, suits do not care about such an idea, just keep the lights on with WoW and keep the margins sexy.

>>725295171 (OP)
>Starcraft FPS

Fucking KINOOOO

>>725295171 (OP)
StarCraft 2 with its expacs completely shat on and forever fucked the lore

>>725295171 (OP)
>What the fuck is Blizzard doing?
nothing

>>725295171 (OP)
Blizzard isn't the company of rockstars you remember. They aren't capable of putting out hits anymore.

>>725301408
same with warcraft and diablo, the lore is fucked because of their hiring practices for writers. But their current core audience doesn't care about the writing, hey only make skinnerbox games for streamers and their cattle to play these days and make a shit load of money from it.

>>725295171 (OP)
Blizzard has pretty much completely cycled out all their talent for marketering and HR parasites. They're incapable of generating a good product

>>725295171 (OP)
Blizzard is more interested in gay ideologies and breast milk theft these days, they don't care about games.

>>725295171 (OP)
It's ActiShitzzard, if they had any braincells they wouldn't be in this situation now.
Warcraft RTS series should never have ended to make way for WoW.
It should have been parallel world building.
WoW can fuel community choices to mold into canonical storyline expansion based on the community, kind of like GW had for a moment back in the days with the game cons.
Warcraft and other single player storyline games can then follow through, polish, expand the base substantive shit.
Could have had RTS, RPGs akin to Dungeon Siege, Dark Messiah -likes, Hell even a Warcraft Total War or even Mount&Blade Warcraft; Witcher or Baldur's Gate-likes.

ActiBlizzshart instead became a parody of GW, when they ironically started off by being the antithesis to GW capitalising on the Warhammer community's ire towards the brand.
What a fucking comedy timeline.

>>725295595
they don't start development until after interest in the genre has peaked and they release their games way after people have stopped caring
only reason why overwatch lasted and not heroes of the storm is because of the waifus in the initial trailer
blizzard has also become far too incompetent to release something genuinely new and interesting

>>725295171 (OP)
Blizzard can't make a compelling story or fun pve gameplay. Overwatch and WoW have shown their incapabilities to do so time and again.

>>725297787
I just want to have sex with a female protoss

>>725302683
Attractive women and cool looking dudes definitely helped but the world itself was moderately interesting. Can't believe they just abandoned the PVE idea. Free money, especially now as PVE shooters like Helldivers and ARC raiders sky rocket in popularity

>>725295171 (OP)
science fiction is dead

>>725295171 (OP)
World of StarCraft

>>725295171 (OP)
Starcraft is just a shallow ripoff of 40k, they barely have any lore to draw from and the fans stopped caring long ago.

>>725295171 (OP)
didn't they try 3 times making a StarCraft: Ghost game staring Nova, and they were never able to figure out how to make it

>>725295171 (OP)
I consider Starcraft to be shitty off-brand Warhammer 40k because Blizzard refuses to bring the setting to a wider audience.

>>725295171 (OP)
>everything needs to be a sequel/adaptation to an existing story/book/movie/game
tired of this gay timeline

>>725302932
Starcraft is just 40k if the Nids were shit and the Eldar were actually good. I personally like the Terran Marine style of gritty conscripted prisoner soldier over the Space Knight Space Marines but I consider that a matter of personal taste and not one being inherently superior.

>>725303129
Coulda just done Sniper Elite IN SPACE

Starcraft is just cucked 40k.

>>725295171 (OP)
>What the fuck is Blizzard doing?
working on their real cash cow World of Warcraft

>>725303394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQb8XalFsc
think they were going for a Metroid Prime thing

>>725295171 (OP)
That's what happens when retarded normie goycattle make skin selling a feasible business model. You get NOTHING new

>>725295171 (OP)
priorities, my friend.
priorities

>>725304071
Why would they even try this kind of damage control? It just makes them look worse than if they just said they want more money.

>>725303692
>3rd person
>Missions
>Stealth/action focus
>a Metroid Prime thing
Did you just say that because there is a blonde woman in a bodysuit?

>>725304071
More efficient at extracting money from retards. That part is just only for the board room.

>>725303530
It's so dogshit...

>>725304206
yes

>>725295171 (OP)
If they fumbled Ghost, it was clear they were never going to be able to do anything with it.

>>725304071
swtor does it so m$ is justified

>>725295171 (OP)
Blizzard's strategy ever since WoW's success has been to have one IP per genre. They've got an FPS (Overwatch). There will never be another Blizzard FPS. They've got an RTS (Starcraft). There will never be another Blizzard RTS. They've got a MOBA (HOTS), an ARPG (Diablo), an MMO (Warcraft), etc. Starcraft will never be anything but an RTS. It is their dedicated RTS title.

>>725303516
40k copied Starcraft. Metzen's art was a huge influence on 40k, which basically aped the style after the game's release. 40k is the older game, but 40k as it exists today is largely a product of Starcraft. Pic related are the third- and fourth-generation Tyranid Warrior models. Care to take a guess what game released between the two?

I'll never understand how starcraft became a thing considering how much of a blatant ripoff it is and all for some faggots kerrigan waifu wank fantasy

As long as they can milk WoW and Diablo suckers nothing will change

>>725307058
The lore played no role, it was all about the gameplay and during Y2K RTSes were absolutely massive. They were the second pillar of PC gaming next to FPS.

>>725306939
warhammer trannies on suicide watch

>>725302778
Protoss canonically have no orifices

>>725306939
Any other examples or just this?

>>725307871
Non-penetrative sex is fun too

>>725295171 (OP)
since vermintide came out ive been dying for a starcraft version set on a derelict space station with horror elements based entirely out the CGI video they had in the first game about the marines with the bomb that enter that zerg infested space station to blow it up and get killed 1 by 1 before the last guy panics and hits the detonate button

>>725306939
You are wrong.
The design of tyranids and zerg both draw from the Xenomorph queen, and nids were already moving more and more close to aping that aesthetic before starcraft came out.

>>725306939
And where did blizzard get the inspiration for terran marines?

>>725308417
the same place warhammer did
starship troopers

>>725307970
not even that is an example because both starcraft and warhammer were just copying alien
warhammer at least was just modifying pre existing designs a bit to make them look a little less silly with a sprinkling of giger's aesthetic starcraft was just copying from the start

>>725308235
Xenomorph queen was already more than a decade old by 1995, I find the other guy's thesis more plausible that SC had at least the effect of making Blizz revisit the Alien designs.

>>725308482
So then we can agree that tyranids had nothing to do with Zerg and both were inspired by aliens, right?

>>725308746
A lot of starcraft designs are pretty clearly based on either old nid models or old nid concept art. Mutalisks for example were clearly based on the tyranid gargoyles. Just look it.

>>725308830
If you actually look at the model evolution of the tyranids you can see that they were moving towards the more xenomorph like design already in the second edition but fully began to embrace it in the third edition.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Tyranids

>>725295171 (OP)
Literally everyone competent at blizzard either fled after the activision merger, fled after the sex pest scandals, or were ratted out as sex pests. The blizzard of old is dead and the new one only cares about maximizing money with the least amount of effort

>>725308482
The soldiers in the actual starship troopers book have very little resemblance to either space marines or terran marines. They are described as essentially having mini mecha suits with nuclear missile launchers and massive jet packs that allow them to leap across the battlefield. Neither terran marines or space marines even come close to that.

>>725295171 (OP)
>What the fuck is Blizzard doing?
adult daycare

>>725309339
Terminators are closer to that concept than the standard marines.

>>725295171 (OP)
Nigger all the employees that gave a shit about sc quit years ago. All devs are just the ship of theseus now.

>>725309172
mentioning gargoyles reminded me that shrikes have basically been axed for the foreseeable future

I want a Starcraft MMO so bad bros. I'd be a Firebat tank

>>725302142
They never were, all their properties are either incredibly generic like Diablo or are Legally Distinct From Warhammer games, they never did anything original, they just happened to hit the video game market first with certain concepts

>>725303530
You actually aren't wrong. Next expansion will also have console access for the first time at launch.

>>725295171 (OP)
Renegade sucked.

>>725307871
No Zussy?

>>725310220
>blizzard ripped off the totally original not ripoff warhammer
Can you go shit up a total war thread or something?

>>725295171 (OP)
I still wonder why they didn't go through with the idea of starcraft ghost.

>>725310874
metzen couldn't figure out how to force his corruption fetish into it.

>>725310810
Sorry your favorite franchise copied some people anon, it gets better

>>725310810
What's worse? A ripoff or a ripoff of a ripoff?

>>725295171 (OP)
>Stealth/action game (like SC: Ghost) with the gameplay like Splinter Cell/MSGV
They have no studio/team under their wing that is knowledgeable in this type of games, nor is there any really popular game currently on the market that they could steal ideas from which is what they usually would do.
>Battlefield-like multiplayer shooter with the 3 playable factions
They already have overwatch. Probably its not best to cannibalize your own market.
>RPG shooter
They could not even launch the overwatch 2 pve mode. No way a rpg shooter is something they can put together. They just don't have the skilled devs to pull it off.
>coop horde mode shooter
Dead genre? Would never be greenlit by the people calculating profits. Its too much of a niche, and once again, no huge market leaders for them to steal from. Helldivers would be the best choice, but that would be too much of a risk for blizz.

>>725311182
Must not be very creative then, shit basically writes itself.

>>725295171 (OP)
starcraft always has been 40k but gay and family friendly. kerrigan and the zerg are cool as fuck even if they literally are a lich king-scourge rip off though

>>725311847
>lich king/scourge rip off
… anon…

>>725312017
You gotta leave the 40kids alone, they don't even know their own game or it's lore.

>>725312314
He’s just a dumb zoomer anon, stop being triggered by the fact that StarCraft and Warcraft are ripoffs

>>725311182
How so, it could end in assrape again with another ghost becoming ZERGED.com

>>725311847
Literally this.
Warhammer 40,000 already beat StarCraft to the punch. Plus Blizzard are lazy as fuck these days, why would they want to make interesting games when they can milk WoW retards with another $40 horse outfit

>>725312017
I meant the story not the faction overall. hell even abathur works like kel thuzad

>>725312893
Wc3 came out after StarCraft, if anything arthas is a copy of kerrigan

>>725306939

Both Warcraft and Starcraft were so obviously overt imaginative Warhammer campaigns.
Blizzard's claim to fame was NEVER originality. Rather doing something that was already done, but do it well.
And they can't even do that anymore.
Warhammer videogames of any variety at the time were either nonexistent, or exceptional trash.
Rather than bothering with licensing, just 'make your own'.
And they did
the rest is history

>>725316665
>Warhammer videogames of any variety at the time
I mean it's been 20 years and dawn of war 1 still the only good 40K game ever made that says a lot. total war games in general look awesome yeah but they are so boring to play it's insane and I love 4X games

>>725318506
Mechanicus and *tide are both pretty good

>>725295171 (OP)
Apart of the badly done AI slop of a pic, let me tell you this.
Blizzard doesn't care about StarCraft nor making more RTS games.
Now it's only WoW, Diablo IV and Overwatch.

And if you wanted a StarCraft game, then you'd have to get an actual good team with talent, skills, passion and vision to produce a 3rd game or a spin-off.
But it's impossible because:
a) Nu-Blizz and...
b) The SCII finished the storyline with the single most horrible story ever with the biggest asspull to keep Kerrigan from being ventilated because MUH CHOSEN ONE AND MUH PROPHECY.
Not only is the story finished, it ended with a sour taste.
You'd have to retcon SCII in order to make SCIII or any spin-off a thing.

>>725295595
I thought FOR SURE Capcom would dust off Lost Planet in that short bit when Helldivers died and they never did

>>725295171 (OP)
Niggers, Jews, and trannies.

>>725295171 (OP)
It's all about the profit margin. They don't want to waste money on making many games, they want to make one and just milk it for as much and as long as possible.

>>725303692
>Blizzard cancelled this because they felt like it didn't live up to their high quality standards

It just gets funnier and funnier every passing year.

>>725319195
Agreed on everything but they could still make a prequel. Playing as a confederacy marine fighting the overmind or playing as dominion in the period between bw and wol. But that would mean coming up with new characters and playing as the bad guys so it wouldn't happen anyways.

>>725306939
OG SC1 and Warcraft 3 were amazing worlds inspired by 40k and Fantasy, it would be stupid for Games Workshop not to copy some of Blizzard's work
>>725307809
kek

>>725295171 (OP)
40k won

>>725295171 (OP)
GOOD MORNING, SAAR!

>>725320737
Agreed.
Or digging out StarCraft GHOST and actually making it into the Metal Gear Solid-like action-espionage game it was supposed to be before Blizzard started to make idiotic demands that ended with it not only changing into some generic action game with multiplayer but also being in the end canned.

>>725295171 (OP)
I am guessing you are talking about actual blizzard and not activision blizzard. Circa 1995 to 2007 blizzard was a very all or nothing work culture. They could not deviate resources worth a damn even if it didn't actually create better games from it.

>>725295171 (OP)
Just like how there was no real attempt for a 40k shooter.
Halo killers or halo killer aligned games were considered a really bad idea.

>>725295171 (OP)
easier to add pay2win and horse armor.
blizzard is just out to make money now, not make games.

>>725321068
>it would be stupid for Games Workshop not to copy some of Blizzard's work
They did. The Tyranids changed since 3rd ED to feel more like the Zerg. Kinda crazy how they changed since SC1 came.
And SCII Zerg are more like Tyranids now...which is a downgrade sadly.

>Generic humans
>Generic slimy swarm aliens
>Futuristic psionic aliens
Fucking lmao no, Starcraft couldn't be more generic if they tried.

>>725295171 (OP)
My fat cock was just bursting

>>725295171 (OP)
As much as I love OG starcraft, its just too big a risk. The turbo autists and koreans are content to play the best game ever forever, and any attempt at branching out is pure risk since they'd be going after an entirely different demographic.

As far as effort to reward goes, its cheaper and more profitable to keep selling skins and other nonsense in their other games.

>>725304161
It unironically works on lefties.