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Anonymous No.725314694 [Report] >>725314936 >>725321770 >>725322032 >>725322184 >>725322381 >>725323882 >>725324142 >>725325671 >>725333806 >>725337416 >>725338190 >>725341026 >>725344269 >>725344339 >>725344347 >>725344536 >>725345609 >>725345946 >>725346040 >>725346579 >>725349306 >>725352352 >>725353453 >>725354086 >>725355165 >>725355346 >>725355961 >>725356579 >>725358073 >>725358079 >>725359198 >>725359356 >>725359742 >>725365964 >>725367802 >>725368331 >>725373012 >>725375147 >>725376607 >>725376976 >>725377089 >>725378447 >>725379081
Lies of P vs Wuchang
Anyone who buyed both these games can tell me which is better??
Anonymous No.725314936 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Black Myth Wu-Tang
Anonymous No.725316348 [Report]
Lies of Penis
Anonymous No.725319064 [Report] >>725320186 >>725354371
I'm playing Wuchang for the first time and I kinda hate the bosses.
Anonymous No.725320186 [Report] >>725320929
>>725319064
Why? they're not too hard
Anonymous No.725320929 [Report] >>725321283 >>725367616
>>725320186
I'm not gelling with the design at all. Everything is just bait back attacks.
Anonymous No.725321283 [Report] >>725321686 >>725354371
>>725320929
You have found a cheese strategy for one weapon (longsword).
Several of the weapons cant even do that (sudden backstabs) effectively because their charge attack is slow to connect, yet they are still very effective if you're not shit
Anonymous No.725321686 [Report] >>725323781
>>725321283
I haven't used the longsword yet.

I've used dual blades (which isn't backstabs to be fair since you actually have good clash attacks) spear, and axe. Last two bosses were ming general which was bait back attacks in phase 1 then use i think it's called rampage? Last boss I fought was mistress of the night, which was back attacks due to that one shot spell if you were close.
Anonymous No.725321770 [Report] >>725322090 >>725324175 >>725331136 >>725372219
>>725314694 (OP)
Didn't Wuchang get hit with the Chinese propaganda stick?
Anonymous No.725322032 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Homo machina is the better one of the 2, but its a bit poorly designed after the midpoint and dont start the dlc til after u beat the game. It unlocks earlier but even after u finish the game its brutally unbalanced. I disliked the end dun and the dlc outside arlecchino. Lea wanking int he dlc sucks badly though, it also pretends like you know any of the bosses outside the final one.
Anonymous No.725322090 [Report] >>725322185 >>725331136
>>725321770
ye it got censored heavy and u cant even kill some bosses anymore.
Anonymous No.725322184 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Discount Dark Souls vs Discount Wulong
Anonymous No.725322185 [Report]
>>725322090
you can beat every boss
Anonymous No.725322381 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
wuchang has 10x better level design and flashier, more fun combat where you don't feel like a little pipsqueak trying to keep up
Anonymous No.725323631 [Report] >>725344409 >>725344551 >>725367196 >>725367726
I will now buy your game
Anonymous No.725323781 [Report] >>725324189
>>725321686
Use dual blades ONLY once you have leveled up enough for their gimmick to kick in. Dual blades suck in the early game when you don't generate infinite feathers by button mashing
Anonymous No.725323882 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang isn't good until you start using the dual blades and every boss fight is just the boss desperately trying to do something to you while you spin wuchang's fat fucking ass around doing a billion damage while being invincible. Goddamn I'm gonna go re-download this shit right now.
Anonymous No.725324142 [Report] >>725324230 >>725324649 >>725344264
>>725314694 (OP)
Played both and lies of P is better, the weapons are more interesting and you aren't shoehorned into using a specific weapon for encounters. Also has a less confusing story (without a guide you aren't going to get anything but the bad ending in your first playthrough), you can't really miss optional bosses and the boss design in general is better. Only thing Wuchang wins at in is that the level design is more open with better shortcuts
Anonymous No.725324175 [Report]
>>725321770
This
I'm skipping the game for this reason
Anonymous No.725324189 [Report]
>>725323781
I'm fair enough to use the blademaster clash stuff. It feels cheap but kinda fun. I shat on that big bandit boss in the rebel camp.
Anonymous No.725324230 [Report] >>725324550
>>725324142
getting the true ending is pretty easy
Anonymous No.725324550 [Report]
>>725324230
Not for me at least, I found that not doing quests and not giving items runs counter intuitive to what i'd normally do in a soulslike
Anonymous No.725324649 [Report] >>725324748 >>725366217 >>725375318
>>725324142
Lies of P weapons have like 5 attacks each and you are shoehorned into using the same 1 - 3 weapons the entire game due to upgrade mats. The boss design is worse because you are FORCED to parry (Fury attacks). The odd timings are not cool or good looking, they just make you have to memorize more. And don't get me started on the level design

>you can't really miss optional bosses
that's a con
Anonymous No.725324748 [Report]
>>725324649
You can swap blades onto different handles
Anonymous No.725325562 [Report] >>725328051 >>725348251 >>725374894
Nioh 2
Anonymous No.725325671 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
i liked the wuchang experience better overall. Lies of p is just a bit harder
Anonymous No.725325742 [Report] >>725325874 >>725367781
How do I fix this?
Anonymous No.725325874 [Report] >>725325934
>>725325742
Get a better pc
Anonymous No.725325934 [Report]
>>725325874
My PC is fine, its some UE5 shit
Anonymous No.725328051 [Report]
>>725325562
Nah
Anonymous No.725331136 [Report]
>>725322090
>>725321770
Just pirate the old version
Anonymous No.725333806 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang was better IMO. It has some of the more interesting level design in the genre while I'm surprised Lies of P doesn't get shit on more for how bland and linear it is, especially since DS3 still cops a lot of flak for that.
Anonymous No.725337416 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang, my problem with lies of p is the story is forced and try to be very convoluted, the combat doesnt feel good, is not bad but is meh.
wuchang story is cool, great fanservice, world design is really good and combat mechanics are fun and engaging. Man I really wanted to play the dlc.
Anonymous No.725338190 [Report] >>725346712 >>725360765 >>725368523 >>725375212
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P has cuter girls
Anonymous No.725341026 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
>boughted
ftfy
Anonymous No.725344139 [Report]
played both, both are good.
Just play both
Anonymous No.725344264 [Report]
>>725324142
>you aren't shoehorned into using a specific weapon for encounters.
This doesn't happen at all, every build will always work.
Anonymous No.725344269 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
I only wish Wuchang had more weapons. Not weapons types, but weapons themselves.
Anonymous No.725344339 [Report] >>725344790 >>725355749 >>725361176 >>725361247 >>725361317 >>725367838
>>725314694 (OP)
AI Limit > both
Anonymous No.725344347 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
lies of p because you can get 120fps on a potato
Anonymous No.725344409 [Report]
>>725323631
this is a mod though
Anonymous No.725344536 [Report] >>725349868
>>725314694 (OP)
You bought both see for yourself you autistic fucking retard
Anonymous No.725344551 [Report]
>>725323631
>15fps
the power of ue5slop
Anonymous No.725344790 [Report]
>>725344339
nah
Anonymous No.725345593 [Report]
I just used the axe+rampage. It's a bit annoying on some of the more mobile bosses if you can't get the third hit of your combo in but once it hits, everything starts flowing. It's very effective on humanoid bosses since they can usually be knocked up.
Anonymous No.725345609 [Report] >>725345764 >>725367990 >>725377591
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P, easily. Wuchang is like a 6.5/10. Pinocchio is an 8.5/10, and easily the best in the genre not made by From themselves.
Anonymous No.725345764 [Report]
>>725345609
this but the exact opposite
Anonymous No.725345946 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P
I prefer parryslop over rollslop
Anonymous No.725346040 [Report] >>725346579
>>725314694 (OP)
I haven't played Wuchang because I can't be arsed to find the uncensored version but Lies of P is a pretty solid game albeit a bit overrated by people with fromsoftware derangement syndrome
Anonymous No.725346121 [Report]
just play both
Anonymous No.725346579 [Report] >>725346708
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang, since I prefer dodgefaggotry over paryfaggotry; and the world definitely has more optional routing compared to Lies of P's corridor progression (and I place exploration high on my criteria of preferences). Apparently the censorship really fucks Wuchang's gameplay over, difficulty included however.
That said, it's not a competition, and the recent glut of soulslikes has me spoilt for choice. I want to get Ai Limit and nuLotF finished before the next round of releases (Nioh 3, Code Vein 2, LotF 2); at this rate I might make a basic infographic for would-be Anons, since if you're just getting into the genre it's probably overwhelming.

>>725346040
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:72ce90266bb983cd659fa6bdcbbf332210c151e8
Anonymous No.725346708 [Report] >>725347737
>>725346579
The censorship doesn't change Wuchang's gameplay in any meaningful way at all, anon.
Anonymous No.725346712 [Report] >>725348523
>>725338190
Wuchang's cuter
Anonymous No.725347737 [Report] >>725347792 >>725347835
>>725346708
>sips faster
>can cancel your sip with a dodge
>immune to damage on the floor + getting up
>portions of the game where enemies no longer attack you because you're "on their side"
>best girl got damage nerfs
stfu chinksect censorship apologist bootlicker i cast fuck off magic

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Anonymous No.725347792 [Report] >>725347884
>>725347737
thats just a balance patch, has nothing to do with censorship and nobody complained about it except you
Anonymous No.725347835 [Report]
>>725347737
Only one of those is related to censorship in any way. The one that is changed a pathetically easy part that completes itself to a pathetically easy part that completes itself. Grow up.
Anonymous No.725347875 [Report]
I loooooove P's game
Anonymous No.725347884 [Report] >>725347993
>>725347792
>specific historic enemies no longer attacking you has nothing to do with censorship and doesn't make the game easier
Anonymous No.725347895 [Report] >>725348292 >>725348339 >>725348824 >>725354371
Anyone here tried Steel Rising? Is it any decent? I'm not even asking good.
Anonymous No.725347993 [Report] >>725348249
>>725347884
I mean 4/5 things you complained about there are balance patch changes not censorship, and those enemies always just cowered in the corner saying "dont kill me!"
Are you sure you cant kill them or you just cant lock onto them anymore?
Anonymous No.725348249 [Report] >>725348547
>>725347993
>balance patch changes
In the censorship patch, which drastically reduces the difficulty, and meaningfully changes the gameplay because the chinese playerbase bitched about it on their twitter.
>and those enemies always just cowered in the corner saying "dont kill me!"
No, not the slave-peasants throughout the game, the battlefield soldiers in Act 4/5 that used to try to kill you are now completely de-aggro'd and immune to damage + lockon.
Anonymous No.725348251 [Report]
>>725325562
This
Anonymous No.725348292 [Report]
>>725347895
It is decent, pretty unique setting that's interesting enough to not turn your brain off and the gameplay is serviceable. The robot designs are really good, but the rest is basically just british aesthetic which can be quite boring. The mc attacks and movement are notably janky, but it kind of works (unintentionally) because you play as a robot.
Anonymous No.725348339 [Report]
>>725347895
It's very mediocre. Its worst offense is bad animations almost Thymesia-tier bad, but at least Steelrising doesn't feel like an asset flip demo, overall clunkiness, and poor balance. Additionally, the game runs and looks like absolute ass.
Anonymous No.725348523 [Report] >>725348632
>>725346712
i have never seen this wuchang chick with any expression other than gaumlessness
even eve from stellar blade started to emote at least in her sfm business
Anonymous No.725348547 [Report] >>725349070 >>725349674
>>725348249
So, the censorship did not in fact change the difficulty in any meaningful way. You're just lumping it in with the balance patches you don't understand in order to virtue signal that you also hate china (something everyone online in the west pretty much already does).
Anonymous No.725348632 [Report]
>>725348523
yeah she doesn't seem to have facial animations during gameplay, thats probably why the "photo mode" is a hack. I'm not sure if P does either though, probably not
Anonymous No.725348824 [Report]
>>725347895
It's in that awkward space next to The Surge 2, where it's good enough not to be worthless, but jank enough not to be an easy recommend. If you're a slike hardcore, you'll like it, but temper your expectations. Main gimmick is it's elemental Fire/Lightning/Ice gameplay.
If the studio puts out another slike, I'd be interested at the very least.
Anonymous No.725349070 [Report] >>725349452 >>725349454
>>725348547
Nta, but censorship is intrinsically lame, and the censorship basically boiling down to 'You actually didn't win and they're perfectly fine lol' is the lamest censorship I've ever seen
Anonymous No.725349306 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P is more soulful but I liked both.
Anonymous No.725349452 [Report] >>725357394
>>725349070
It's worse than lame, but that's not what the conversation was about. The bits that were censored are story cutscenes and one short segment of the game where two factions fought each other. In the base game before the patch in question, the two sides just killed each other and you simply bursted down the basically already dead winner without any danger to yourself whatsoever. There censorship does not "really fucks Wuchang's gameplay over, difficulty included however" at all.
Anonymous No.725349454 [Report]
>>725349070
Censorship is intrinsically lame (unless it's something I want censored!!). But it's not so lame as to immediately dismiss the game. It affects like 0.01% of your time playing. I am just not that black and white. It is one factor in many that goes into my consideration whether to play a game.
Anonymous No.725349674 [Report] >>725349910 >>725350594 >>725357269
>>725348547
Chang, if I wanted to "virtue signal that I hate China", than I've got way more fucking ammunition than recommending a Chinese game about China in an increasingly oversaturated genre (defending the best version of it), and I'd spend much less of my life giving a fuck about Chinese history and media. If the censorship patch made the tutorial enemy deal 1 less damage, then it'd still be making the game easier, the fact it invalidates the overworld exploration of ~30% of game in the lategame and basically removes your own punish frames is the rest of my argument.
It essentially goes from DS1's estus and punish windows to DS3's, in a game very clearly balanced around DS1's. Oppressive in-your-face bosses don't mean shit when you don't need to fully disengage and wait for a window to sippy up any more, and knockdown moves become beneficial to the player when they act as extended iframes you're better off staying on the floor until a boss combo ends, rather than massive vulnerability windows when the boss is able to chunk the rest of your health without you able to respond. The fact the "make everything shiteasy" changes came at the exact same patch as the "stop hurting the feelings of the chinese people" changes is a double entendre, and any chimp with two braincells to rub together can connect the dots.

I don't know why you're even bothering to bitch about it, I linked the uncensored version of the game anyways; the only conceivable reason you have for carrying this argument on is that you're trying to convince others to play the censored version for a significantly worse experience. Censorship is censorship, if you want it, get the fuck off the one website on the internet that hates it's own jannies.
Eat shit and die wumao bootlicker, the white man has spoken.
Anonymous No.725349868 [Report]
>>725344536
But I didn't bought either!
Anonymous No.725349901 [Report]
There are too many soulslikes. Play Ninja Gaiden 4 instead.
Anonymous No.725349910 [Report]
>>725349674
Unsurprisingly, nothing in your post is relevant at all to the conversation. You don't understand the game that you're talking about, no white man would post like you do and you probably suck cocks lol
Anonymous No.725350549 [Report] >>725350787 >>725351153 >>725355749
Play Jacks game instead
Anonymous No.725350594 [Report]
>>725349674
Damn based anon is having faganon for dinner
Anonymous No.725350695 [Report]
Play rise of the ronin. It's way much better!!
Anonymous No.725350787 [Report]
>>725350549
Man Japan really fell off hard. Chinas taking their place
Anonymous No.725351153 [Report]
>>725350549
that game fucking sucked. I wanted to kill Chaos, but Jack didn't even care about killing Chaos anymore after a few levels.
Anonymous No.725352352 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P has hotter girl
Anonymous No.725352674 [Report] >>725356386
>Rise of the Ronin
>Wuchang
>Wo Long
>Wukong

I get all these games confused
Anonymous No.725353453 [Report] >>725353939
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P

Wuchang just didn't click with me, which was a shame. I was really excited for it, I pre-ordered it, jumped in on launch day, and put in hours trying to let it grow on me, but none of those hours felt good. Everything came off bland and generic, while Lies of P felt like it had real passion behind it. Wuchang felt soulless, like the devs just slapped together a checklist of stuff, added a bit of “it’s Chinese” flavor, and called it a day.

I'm going to go back to Wuchang one day and see if my mind has changed, but for now, I'm disappointed.

>inb4 "What's wrong with it being Chinese"
Nothing, in fact, Black Myth Wukong was my GOTY for 2024. My problem is that being Chinese feels like the ONLY thing Wuchang has going for it.
Anonymous No.725353939 [Report] >>725354264 >>725354664
>>725353453
Sounds like you value aesthetics over everything, which I think Wuchang was fine at anyway but the best thing about it is the gameplay. Level design is great and the weapons feel flashy like an action game except you commit to attacks and get super armor often. Weighty and well animated too
Anonymous No.725354086 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P is slower and much more like traditional souls with lots of customization options and great artstyle. I kinda hated fighting in that one though since almost every enemy has random slow downs turning into instant attacks just to fuck with your. Finished it but would never was to revisit the game.
Wuchang is faster and has more combo potential in your fighting style. World looks great and has somewhat good branching and variety. Enjoyed playing it a lot and even platinum'd it.

>which one is better
They are very different. Get Lies of P if you want bloodborne korea edition and Wuchang if you want something else.
Anonymous No.725354264 [Report]
>>725353939
>Sounds like you value aesthetics over everything
You know, I can't deny that to a degree, but my reasoning for it is that all of these Souls-likes feel so similar to one another to play that a this point, I rely on the world, lore and aesthetic to be what sets them apart from each other.

So yeah, I won't say you're wrong, but I wanted to explain why I feel that way.
Anonymous No.725354371 [Report] >>725356975
>>725321283
>>725319064
It doesn't really get better. All levelling up do is increasing your damage.
The levels stay crazy trough out the entire game, which is the main selling point, and the core reason to play troyugh

That said, once you go from poke damage to melting the entire boss healthbar in one chain attack after oblitorate is kinda funny
But its also quite bad that the game is designed around that.
Magic increases how much debuffs builds as well, while feather seem to be the Luck stat of the game(boosts everything, a tiny bit)

>>725347895
It doesn't have any real negative qualities, and the mid parts are at the least complimented with parkouring across revolutionary France
I'd say its better than Thymesia, which was released at the same time
Anonymous No.725354453 [Report] >>725356429 >>725357925
They are both generic, derivative shit with zero originality or lasting appeal.
Also Wuchang shills are unironic censorship apologists, so that makes the game pretty despicable.
Anonymous No.725354454 [Report] >>725354748
Lies of P has a far better combat, moveset variety, bosses, enemy design, aesthetics and atmosphere
Wuchang has a better level design.
LoP wins overall but wuchang is not a bad game.
Anonymous No.725354664 [Report]
>>725353939
>but the best thing about it is the gameplay
The level design is above par.
The gameplay varies a lot, but its not that polished. Sure, its sanded, but its not wax coated into something amazing

This is the game where you run into Changhong(large crow sword), and the camera zooms out, but you still get fucked up POV.
And where the game is very careful with placing in Wangdi(giga bird monster), because they are everything wrong about the games monster designs.
Or when you run into the final set of bosses, you are either suppose to:
1. Deal chip damage and turn it into endurance battles
2. Oneshot via magic
3. Clash for infinite feathers with dual blade
4. Backstab into anything that can be used to onehsot the bosses
Anonymous No.725354748 [Report] >>725354834 >>725354850
>>725354454
Lies of P is parryslop, you can't even dodge the constant red attacks. You have to parry or run away like a pussy. Chip damage always feels like shit, and the dodge is so short and weak in general. Wuchang has far better combat, which naturally extends to having better levels and bosses
Anonymous No.725354834 [Report]
>>725354748
You can space them however
Anonymous No.725354850 [Report] >>725354892
>>725354748
>you can't even dodge
>run away
When a mentally ill can't keep tracks of his own post
Anonymous No.725354892 [Report] >>725354928 >>725355048
>>725354850
iframe dodging is not the same as running away you disingenuous fuck
Anonymous No.725354926 [Report] >>725355681 >>725355749 >>725355827 >>725374239 >>725378054
>UGHHH DO I PLAY AS THE TWINK FEMBOY OR THE WOMAN
Play a man's man game
Anonymous No.725354928 [Report] >>725354951
>>725354892
Natural spacing is better than iframing so i have no idea what your word vomit is supposed to mean
Anonymous No.725354951 [Report] >>725354981
>>725354928
holy shit what a take, you're a fucking retard
Anonymous No.725354981 [Report]
>>725354951
It's not my fault soulshit had mindbroken you. Go back to wuchang where you can swim in infinite iframes by mashing one button.
Anonymous No.725355048 [Report] >>725355183
>>725354892
Being incentivized to not iframe everything but instead pre-emptively dodge or walk around it seems like good design
Anonymous No.725355165 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Never supporting chinese shit, they are animal abusers.
Might pirate afterwards.
Anonymous No.725355183 [Report] >>725355274 >>725355451
>>725355048
not really, its just forcing you into a playstyle that you could do just as one of your options in every other soulslike (for when you don't know how to deal with a combo usually). And only because the attacks are red. They don't even look particularly more powerful, they're just red and have a sound effect. And since when does it make sense that an attack being powerful makes it undodgeable? Thats the point of DEX is that you're fragile but escape damage entirely
Anonymous No.725355274 [Report] >>725355314
>>725355183
It's not forcing you into a playstyle, it's checking you're not completely useless in other playstyles
The majority of attacks aren't red
Anonymous No.725355314 [Report] >>725355368
>>725355274
there's a red attack at the end of most enemy / boss combos
Anonymous No.725355328 [Report] >>725355604
Anonymous No.725355346 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
both lost to nortubel
Anonymous No.725355368 [Report] >>725355861
>>725355314
Nah, not really even close
Anonymous No.725355451 [Report] >>725355687
>>725355183
>guy who actually demands everything is rollslop
????
Anonymous No.725355604 [Report] >>725355752
>>725355328
Is this supposed to be a bait webm or a cool webm? I haven't played the game so I can't tell.
Anonymous No.725355681 [Report]
>>725354926
Or maybe you should develop some basic taste.
Anonymous No.725355687 [Report]
>>725355451
nah you can play however you like. Magic users / throwable spammers will try to back away similarly to how you have to when you know there's an unpredictable red attack coming in LoP.
I just don't like how in Lies of P you're literally forced to pick between running away like that or memorizing the frames of the attack for parrying within 8 frames (Sekiro it's 12)
Anonymous No.725355749 [Report]
>>725354926
>>725350549
>>725344339
So fucking desperate lmao
Anonymous No.725355752 [Report]
>>725355604
it's probably just annoying because parrying that attack is way more rewarding
Anonymous No.725355798 [Report] >>725355873
Both are good and the best souls ripoffs currently but Lies of P is better.
Wuchang has more open level design, but don't expect Dark Souls world design either, it's also structured in linear chapters. Combat overall is good but has some jank and is easier than souls.
P has more linear levels but feel more handcrafted and has tighter combat design and on original difficulty was harder than Souls.
Anonymous No.725355827 [Report]
>>725354926
I will once it drops the denuvo.
Anonymous No.725355861 [Report] >>725355915
>>725355368
The fact you have to concede that 'well at least they're not everywhere' (they are) means you know fury attacks are a lame mechanic
Anonymous No.725355873 [Report]
>>725355798
>Both are good and the best souls ripoffs currently
Lmao.
>also explains how they're both shit souls clones that missed the point
Anonymous No.725355915 [Report]
>>725355861
No, conceding that they're not everywhere determines how much your """"playstyle"""" of iframing attacks instead of parrying them is actually hampered (not a lot)
Complaining you have to dodge pre-emptively instead of reactively is also just really autistic
Anonymous No.725355961 [Report] >>725356003 >>725356523
>>725314694 (OP)
I vaguely remember that Lies of P got a nerf patch, which version do I actually get to beat the game on? Is it the same deal for the DLC where the bosses got nerfed post-launch?
Anonymous No.725356003 [Report]
>>725355961
The nerf patch is mostly just the introduction of difficulty settings of which only the highest is the "original" difficulty
Anonymous No.725356386 [Report]
>>725352674
Me with the Outer Wilds/Words, and I even bought the puzzle one, but yet to play.
Anonymous No.725356429 [Report] >>725357182
>>725354453
Shove your activism up your ass, you don't play videogames
Anonymous No.725356523 [Report]
>>725355961
Wuchang:
1. Feathered enemies are no longer in a free for all, meaning the zones are more ganky
2. Estus got changed from a DS1 chug to a DS2 high ADP chug, which is whatever when enemies got so much arena crossing attacks and ice skating anyhow
3. The get up animation got changed, and you can now input the dodge earlier, even if its still fucked

Lies of P
Dodge out of knockdown got patched into the default moveset, instead of being a upgrade, which only impact the boss guarding Hotel Krat
Anonymous No.725356579 [Report] >>725357056
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang is a much better game, exploration is awesome and I liked the bosses better.
Lies of P starts having two-phase bosses around the midway and it's annoying as shit.
But I would say that both of them are worth playing.
Anonymous No.725356975 [Report] >>725357171
>>725354371
Sounds like you boxed yourself in if you think leveling only increases damage.

Early leveling is to unlock extra features for weapon types so you can start switching between 2 weapon types and make use of them. Like if you use steamlance to get free backstab on human bosses you can change to axe for the chase attack after the backstab knockaway and then get free damage in by knocking the boss into the air. Or sword to parry and then steamlance to get a guaranteed backstab. You could just chase damage but you don't need that much damage since once you figure out a strat that works for the boss you can just repeat that on the boss without taking damage in between.

If Magic is int then Feather is fth. There are several spells as well as weapons and special attacks that scales from feather.

A lot of people can't get into wuchang because their brains have rotted to only work with the roll poke or parry poke mentality. Rollpoking just makes any of the human bosses several times harder to fight, they'll get filtered by dyke in the palace and then drop the game because its "unfair". Literal am I doing anything wrong? no it must be the game thats wrong
Anonymous No.725357056 [Report] >>725357190
>>725356579
Two phase boss fights would be annoying if Lies of P wasn't relatively easy
If you minmax your loadout bosses have no NO health
Anonymous No.725357171 [Report] >>725361296
>>725356975
You don't understand what Magic and Feather do.
Feather works like the rest of the stats, and all the weapons has hidden feather scaling for funzies.
Magic has the additional feature where it increases debuff scaling, on top of scaling damage.

>since once you figure out
Just be honest and say its a cheese simulator, and that most of the bosses are designed around that.
Its a fun game, until the illusion breaks. Either when you figure out how spells work, when you can start using the weapon swap mechanic for insane combos, or when you figure out fire damage is cumulative and self stacking on the debuff.
Anonymous No.725357182 [Report] >>725357386
>>725356429
I do. And I will make sure to always bring up that despite the fact troons like you always bitch and moan about "censorship", you're more than happy to defend actual censorship as long as there's a woman on screen.
Anonymous No.725357190 [Report]
>>725357056
fuck min/maxing, it's boring
I thought LoP was too hard, it felt annoying, especially the weird delays everywhere. I mean all these games do that but LoP was pretty obnoxious about it
Anonymous No.725357269 [Report]
>>725349674
Very based post. Notice how the other anon had nothing factual to reply with and had to settle with a lame ass attempt at insulting. Thank you for the torrent by the way.
Anonymous No.725357386 [Report] >>725357474
>>725357182
what is this strawmanning? I dont give a shit about them being pressured into chinese history censorship and if I did I'd just downgrade to the old version anyway. If anyones a troon its you for caring so much more about muh political principles over gameplay
Anonymous No.725357394 [Report]
>>725349452
As long as none of the male-gaze is censored and it was just other things that triggered the CCP about not killing historical figures I'm cool with it.
Anonymous No.725357474 [Report] >>725357590
>>725357386
Yes, excuse me for actually having standards and opposing "real" censorship.
It's genuinely hilarious that when some random garbage porn "games" get his retards like you bitch and moan about it for weeks while demanding that people headpat you because "t-they will come for you next!!!" meanwhile when a game gets censored for real but still has tits you agressively defend it and throw around meaningless "W-who cares?! Stop noticing!!!" arguments around. Dilate.
Anonymous No.725357590 [Report]
>>725357474
I never gave much of a shit about skin censorship either, that was other annoying autists in the same category as you. /v/ is not one person

Half the retards protesting so much about skin censorship do it to games like Stellar Blade which are already ridiculously sexual. No one takes them or (You) seriously
Anonymous No.725357845 [Report]
I couldnt play wuchang for more than 1 hour, hated everything about it
Anonymous No.725357925 [Report]
>>725354453
this
Forgettable chinkslop for feminized 'men'
Anonymous No.725358073 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang
Anonymous No.725358079 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Left looks like a massive faggot.
I'm glad my pirated version had a German Shepherd head/helm to hide his faggoty face. The gameplay was pretty good.
Anonymous No.725359198 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P. Genuinely comfortably rivals even From's games. Wuchang plays like a worse Stellar Blade
Anonymous No.725359203 [Report]
Anonymous No.725359356 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
if you like hot boys and gay shit like weight limits you should play Lies of P
If you like hot girls and cool shit like crazy combos you should play Wuchang
Anonymous No.725359742 [Report] >>725360224
>>725314694 (OP)
I've played both recently. Wuchang I 100%'d, Lies of P I'm in the final area.

Even with the scuffed censored version of Wuchang, I think its better than Lies of P.

I like the combat in both games, but the level design in Wuchang shits on Lies of P easily.
Anonymous No.725360224 [Report] >>725366534
>>725359742
Also, not sure if I'll bother with Lies of P Overture. The game's a 8/10 but I only got it cause it was 50% off. The DLC is currently the same price as the discounted base game and is apparently short as fuck.
Anonymous No.725360310 [Report]
Anonymous No.725360765 [Report]
>>725338190
Laxativia should be higher but otherwise it checks out
Anonymous No.725361176 [Report] >>725361247
>>725344339
based and true
Anonymous No.725361247 [Report] >>725361349
>>725344339
>>725361176
Seems like a pretty jank 7/10 at best
Anonymous No.725361296 [Report] >>725363813
>>725357171
>Hidden feathering scaling
No.

>debuff scaling
Did you mean status effects scaling off the weapons spell stat? It says level x for a reason
Anonymous No.725361317 [Report]
>>725344339
AI Limit had too much old souls game quest bullshit, but it was good, I liked it a lot.
I'd say Wuchang >= AI Limit > LoP
Anonymous No.725361349 [Report] >>725361402
>>725361247
depends what you like about souls games
Anonymous No.725361402 [Report] >>725361557
>>725361349
The interconnected world + fun combat?
Anonymous No.725361498 [Report] >>725363216
Anonymous No.725361557 [Report] >>725363342
>>725361402
then you're probably gonna rate it at 9/10
Anonymous No.725361607 [Report]
If you're a pro gamer who breezes through these games you're gonna like Lies of P more. Wuchang is like you and the bosses both have cheese moves; LoP only the bosses do
Anonymous No.725363216 [Report]
>>725361498
>Looks like its going to be the most fun area of the game
>Its 2,5 HUGE roms, a teleporter and 3 bosses
Anonymous No.725363342 [Report] >>725363757
>>725361557
Hmm well it is fairly cheap at the moment...
Anonymous No.725363757 [Report]
>>725363342
i bought it at launch and had a lot of fun in it but honestly without the /v/ threads i would've been so lost, there's a lot of stuff that you can miss if you don't pay attention
Anonymous No.725363813 [Report] >>725365970
>>725361296
>No.
Yes.
Its also a bad sign that the game has bene out this long, and there is no proper datamining yet.
Anonymous No.725364460 [Report]
>you can see sweat on her tits
nice detail
Anonymous No.725364565 [Report]
hate anti soul gas
Anonymous No.725364752 [Report]
I think lies of P is incredibly soulful even if the levels are braindead linear and the enemies fake you out like a highschool bully trying to make you flinch
Anonymous No.725365491 [Report]
Wuchang is like taking all the best parts of souls games, make the perfect mix and then ruin it with historical censorship.
Anonymous No.725365548 [Report]
Anonymous No.725365964 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wuchang is better
lies of p feels like shit to play
Anonymous No.725365970 [Report] >>725373620
>>725363813
We have the game you know. It takes one minute to disprove that.
Anonymous No.725366217 [Report] >>725366521 >>725367201
>>725324649
>forced to parry
You can dodge roll and even avoid red attacks with the correct distance but why would you fault the parry system? It feels so natural and I found that I would reflexively parry timings on attacks I hadn't seen before. Fuck the door guardian though, electric damage draining your stamina so you can't even parry well.
Anonymous No.725366402 [Report]
lies of p has the best atmosphere in souls games but the gameplay is too slow for me
you just attack.......attack.........attack........
Anonymous No.725366481 [Report] >>725367350
Lies of P drove me nuts cause your weapon would bounce off everything
Anonymous No.725366521 [Report]
>>725366217
it doesn't feel that natural. It's too few frames. Most people don't reflexively get parries in Lies of P because it tries so hard to fake you out, but they do in Sekiro and Wuchang
Anonymous No.725366534 [Report]
>>725360224
I bought it for the boss rush addition, the DLC story is horribly short though you're right
Anonymous No.725367196 [Report]
>>725323631
Anonymous No.725367201 [Report] >>725367398
>>725366217
not only that, there is straight up just an amulet that lets you dodge red attacks
Anonymous No.725367350 [Report] >>725367419
>>725366481
Do you know about sharpening...
Anonymous No.725367398 [Report] >>725367603 >>725368240
>>725367201
that thing weighs like 20 pounds
Weight limits are annoying too
Anonymous No.725367419 [Report] >>725367495 >>725368465
>>725367350
Yes I beat the game. Should have mentioned I meant weapons bouncing off the walls and scenery, happened way more often than any other soulslike I've played.
Anonymous No.725367495 [Report]
>>725367419
can't really say I've had it happen a lot, but maybe it's very weapon specific
Wouldn't be surprised given the level design is a lot more claustrophobic than in something like dark souls
Anonymous No.725367501 [Report]
its not hard to be better than lies of p since its shit (i haven't played wuchang)
Anonymous No.725367603 [Report]
>>725367398
just put some points into vig
Anonymous No.725367616 [Report]
>>725320929
I beat the game pre-nerf and I agree. There's maybe 3-4 bosses in the entire game that feels nice to fight. Everything else is trial and error.
I still liked the game overall because of it's unique setting, art and style.
Anonymous No.725367665 [Report] >>725367958
Wuchang isn't very good...
Anonymous No.725367726 [Report] >>725367958
>>725323631
>play 15 min
>jerk off
>close the game and go play something better
Anonymous No.725367781 [Report]
>>725325742
Turn on DLAA/DLSS/TAA.
Anonymous No.725367802 [Report] >>725368045
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P for better overall level design and gameplay. Both games have a pretty low standard enemy variety but in Lies of P they break down the monotomy with lot of unique midbosses.

Wuchang is hard to recommend these days because of the whole censorship thing. If you really like chinese titties then go for Wuchang, just be aware that the game might censor them at any time in the future in a patch. All it takes is one upset chink threatening the devs that he's going to report them to CCP for showing tits in the game and they will cover all women up instantly (cleavages are banned in chinese media). They already caved in and censored the game because of upset chinks, they're 100% going to do it again in the future.
Anonymous No.725367838 [Report]
>>725344339
It's a good game but like the other anon said, the quest design was annoying and it's a bit clunky. Lies of P feels like a more "tight" game in general.
Anonymous No.725367958 [Report]
>>725367665
>>725367726
Wuchang is actually quite good as a soulslike, it's surprising. I thought it would be shit but I wanted to keep playing
Anonymous No.725367990 [Report]
>>725345609
Wrong, it's also better than any FromSoft game.
Anonymous No.725368045 [Report] >>725368661
>>725367802
>Lies of P
>better level design
???
Anonymous No.725368240 [Report]
>>725367398
>I want to play like this
>you can
>well i'd have to make a build around it
>then do that
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous No.725368331 [Report] >>725368520
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P without a doubt. Gameplay is better, sound design is better, story and characters are better. The level design is better in wuchang, generally, and being able to slutmog in wuchang is nice, but Lies of P is a much better game.
Anonymous No.725368465 [Report]
>>725367419
That never happened to me meanwhile 90% of the times I die on Souls is because of that
Anonymous No.725368520 [Report]
>>725368331
I don't think you can dismiss Wuchang's sound design so easily, I was just fighting a boss Zhu the Dragon Emperor and thinking that it sounded really damn good
Anonymous No.725368523 [Report]
>>725338190
Laxativia is CUTE
Anonymous No.725368661 [Report]
>>725368045
It has more unique encounters, whereas in Wuchang a lot of areas are generic with monsters just spread across the map. As boring as the final area in Lies of P looked lot of its areas where themed around an encounter idea. And the unique midbosses helped a lot too.

In Lies of P you fight pic related twice in the whole game. And 2nd time they made him look different, gave him a new move and completely remixed his behaviour so it was basically a completely different midboss.

In Wuchang most "midboss" tiers you fight so many times you get bored to death. First time you encounter the giant fleshy bird you think wow this is really cool fight. The 9th or 10th time in final area really starts to get fucking tiresome.
Anonymous No.725368665 [Report] >>725368764
Wuchang is just another goon game. LoP mogs
Anonymous No.725368764 [Report]
>>725368665
LoP is a gooner game for homos and fujos
Anonymous No.725368786 [Report]
Both are my top 2 soulslops
Lies of P has the edge on polish. Nailed every department; music and animation and sound design and story and combat and optimization.

Wuchang has great combat, music, sound design, and better map design, but falters on animation (her face is less expressive than the fucking puppet) and story was good until they patched it. The sex factor makes up for it though.
Anonymous No.725369672 [Report]
Overture worth the price?
Anonymous No.725371975 [Report]
Anonymous No.725372219 [Report]
>>725321770
Yeah. :( I regret getting on console, I assume PC must have some mods to revert to the original game.
Anonymous No.725372678 [Report] >>725372730 >>725373023
I have an RTX 3060, should I even bother?
Anonymous No.725372730 [Report]
>>725372678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms
Anonymous No.725373012 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
SEX with twinks though
Anonymous No.725373023 [Report] >>725373074
>>725372678
I played both games on a 3060 fine
Anonymous No.725373074 [Report] >>725373146
>>725373023
what's the other game?
Anonymous No.725373146 [Report]
>725372730
kill yourself you literal retard

>>725373074
Lies of P?
Anonymous No.725373620 [Report]
>>725365970
based
Anonymous No.725374239 [Report]
>>725354926
i did, i love the game.
Anonymous No.725374678 [Report] >>725375007 >>725376238 >>725376897
You know what, I'm going to say it

Lies of P is a better version of Sekiro with more versatility, less parry reliance and several of the bosses are like peak Sekiro quality too. Especially the final boss of the DLC, they went all out with that

While i haven't played Wuchang, i doubt it's as good as that. Lies of P does require you to be into parry-based gameplay for at least the bosses though, which is where most complaints come from -people who don't like Sekiro.
Anonymous No.725374894 [Report]
>>725325562
Anonymous No.725375007 [Report]
>>725374678
I do recommend Wuchang if you enjoyed LoP. It's similar in the sense of having multiple defensive options. The parry window is much more generous, but several moves (any unarmed punch/kick attack) can't be parried, so you have to mix in dodging. Both of which can restore your skill resources, so you weave between going on defense and offense throughout.
Anonymous No.725375147 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
I didn't boughted any of them but I played them in goypass, I would say Lies of P is more fun, challenging and the story was pretty good.

But Wuchang is not a bad game either, so I would say play one and then the other.
Anonymous No.725375212 [Report]
>>725338190
Eugenie is cute but none of the P girls really do it for me. You can tell they were designed by females.
Anonymous No.725375318 [Report]
>>725324649
If you are that much of a shitter then you just can summon or apply the easy parry consumable to your weapon
Anonymous No.725375370 [Report]
Wuchang is the better game overall, I'd even say it's one of the best Soulslikes of all time. The level and art design is fantastic and combat is pretty fucking good too.
Anonymous No.725376238 [Report]
>>725374678
You can beat everything without parrying if you like, there are amulets and p organs that support it
Anonymous No.725376607 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of Peace (of shit)
Anonymous No.725376897 [Report]
>>725374678
P is way too slow to be comparable to Sekiro. Sekiro is basically a full action game
Anonymous No.725376976 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Combat for these games feels too clunky slow and unresponsive for me I much prefer the fast combat of khazan and wukong where dodges and parries actually work.
Anonymous No.725377089 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Wutranny
Anonymous No.725377092 [Report]
I didn't like wuchang bosses, the monster ones where easier to deal with, but all the humanoid ones are just endless attacks and maybe one gap to hit them unless you abuse backstabs.
Lies of P I enjoyed all the way through and finished it 4 times, great weapon system to.
Anonymous No.725377591 [Report]
>>725345609
That title would go to Khazan
Anonymous No.725378054 [Report]
>>725354926
This guy knows glad I'm not the only one. Khazan mogs both Lies of P and Wuchang put together.
Anonymous No.725378447 [Report]
>>725314694 (OP)
Anonymous No.725379081 [Report] >>725379810
>>725314694 (OP)
Lies of P has the unadulterated sovl of a game that released for the PS2, GC and Xbox, something about the combat and the euclidean environments just really reminds me of the 5th gen

I could be wrong about Wuchang but it seems like something made by a mobile/gacha game studio
Anonymous No.725379763 [Report]
>story
This might be controversial but I like the lore and story in Wuchang the more you dig down to it.

>music
LoP obviously Wuchang has no memorable ost

>graphic
LoP because Wuchang performance is garbage

>gameplay
Both are fun to me so tie

>bosses/difficulty
LoP is much harder and you can cheese everything in Wuchang with the right skills and weapons

>Final Score
LoP is 8.5. Wuchang is 7.5
Anonymous No.725379810 [Report] >>725380162
>>725379081
Everyone thought that about Wuchang before they played it
Anonymous No.725380162 [Report]
>>725379810
Well I'll give it a shot when it drops to like $10 on sale, not necessarily because I think it's gonna be shit but moreso because I have 25 other games in the genre sitting in my backlog so I'm not exactly in a hurry to play it