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Anonymous No.725326506 [Report] >>725327007 >>725327036 >>725328368 >>725328450 >>725328720 >>725328765 >>725328804 >>725330062 >>725330240 >>725330341 >>725335002 >>725335129 >>725335680 >>725338930 >>725340494 >>725343236
>master chief
>kazuma kiryu
>naked snake
why do game developers keep accidentally making autistic protagonists while attempting to create badass stoic men?
Anonymous No.725326932 [Report]
japs can't write, cool ideas though
Anonymous No.725327007 [Report] >>725327548 >>725335578
>>725326506 (OP)
I wish we never discovered mental health. I'd prefer to just get beat and die.
Anonymous No.725327036 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
having no emotions is a sign of autism
Anonymous No.725327047 [Report] >>725327215 >>725327247
You just got gaslight into thinking stoic is autistic
Anonymous No.725327215 [Report]
>>725327047
like everyone behind the DSM-5
Anonymous No.725327247 [Report]
>>725327047
I think it started with the “literally me” Ryan Gosling memes. Stoic autists are likely not to get diagnosed until it’s too late to do anything. A quiet kid who plays video games by himself is not going to get a psychiatric evaluation.
Anonymous No.725327525 [Report] >>725327750 >>725332516
the kino parts of halo are mostly the exposition, the world or the events that happen, the MC being a murder machine with little to no personality was a conscious choice by Bungie and followed what they did in Marathon. MC having more of a personality in a military game setting would be one of those idiotic "badass" protagonists that americans have pushed since Rambo 2, something only low IQ people can like because "it's badass". I mean, why bother to write "cool badass lines" when Cortana does a fine job of exposing the setting and in general the story and lore are quite interesting.

Japanese on the other hand can't hand silence or dialogue well, either because it's a stupid translation, or they think humans act in such a retarded way. Think how bad some of the moments in MGS are, like how ocelot does juggling and we are supposed to think it's cool but it looks retarded when you look it at from the outside. The best moments of MGS story happen during codex (MGS2 AI codex scenes) for the most part, because the acting or body movement are straight up uncanny or bad.
Anonymous No.725327548 [Report]
>>725327007
things were better back then...
Anonymous No.725327750 [Report] >>725328079 >>725332516 >>725334235 >>725339260
>>725327525
I don’t know if it’s the Japanese language or what. But Japanese media has absolutely no grasp of subtlety or nuance. Characters always need to tell you exactly what they’re feeling or thinking. With the most blunt language possible. There’s no room for interpretation like in Western media.
Anonymous No.725328079 [Report] >>725332516
>>725327750
part of it is the language, a big part is translation, but yeah there is a core difference
they can do subtlety, but in modern times they choose not to, possibly by cultural/media trend
Anonymous No.725328237 [Report]
https://youtu.be/xRx7NTRblN4

It's a mystery.
Anonymous No.725328368 [Report] >>725328619
>>725326506 (OP)
Why is not being histrionic considered autistic?
Anonymous No.725328415 [Report]
I'm exhausted from awkward/shy = autism. If you won't walk on you tiptoes and need a weighted blanket you're not autistic.
Anonymous No.725328450 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
>the same meme with a different image
this is getting old
Anonymous No.725328619 [Report]
>>725328368
to be inclusive to women
Anonymous No.725328720 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
do you ever think before making a thread?
who am i kidding, of course you don't
Anonymous No.725328765 [Report] >>725340494
>>725326506 (OP)
Stoicism is an autistic philosophy.
Anonymous No.725328804 [Report] >>725333126 >>725339267
>>725326506 (OP)
it's a lot harder than it looks, the difference between a stoic silence full of meaning and just a blank pause is hard to achieve and harder to articulate. not just limited to video games, people often make the mistake of just imitating the basic actions (or lack thereof) without understanding that its the nuance that makes it work. it also gets exponentially worse the longer you need to make your story or series
Anonymous No.725330062 [Report] >>725330240 >>725334851 >>725339128
>>725326506 (OP)
You want the real reason, OP, I'll give it to you.
It's the same reason why porn acting is always so fake and cheesy.
And why video game journalists are bad at games (both playing and writing about them).
People who are actually good actors don't tend to get into porn: they make it into more prestigious forms of acting.
People who are good journalists generally make it into more prestigious and intellectual forms of journalism.
Likewise people who are good writers generally end up writing books or movie scripts, not writing scripts for childrens' games. In Japan the video game industry was considered to be for outcasts who weren't good enough to make it into the film industry (and probably for good reason). That's why Kojima is a failed movie director, and all his games are just movies that he wanted to make masquerading as games. Obviously his writing shows you why he had to resort to making games. Same thing with Swery apparently. Also why Miyazaki (Souls creator) was depressed and wanted to kill himself when he was starting out.

The very medium itself effects negative selection.
Anonymous No.725330240 [Report] >>725330463
>>725330062
>>725326506 (OP)

Oh and the reason the characters tends to be male and stoic is because they're self-inserts for the game directors. Most of them are male and they had to be stoic to keep going after not making it in their preferred career (film), and getting dismissed and ridiculed by society.
Anonymous No.725330341 [Report] >>725330435
>>725326506 (OP)
she wants sex?
Anonymous No.725330435 [Report] >>725330781 >>725331628
>>725330341
>saggy breasts
>child bearing hips
>cute feet
who makes an AI like this?
Anonymous No.725330463 [Report]
>>725330240
>game directors
That's a funny way of saying "players". All these characters are a player's primary POV and can be economically given a stoic and quiet personality to prevent them from pulling at the player's focus. Players develop an attachment then to them in moments where they do demonstrate a personality because they only speak or act autonomously at pivotal points in story, rather than rambling on and being a constant presence during gameplay.

When directors and writers tend to produce surrogates they're generally talky self-righteous mouthpieces instead and that is generally unpopular with players.
Anonymous No.725330781 [Report] >>725331189
>>725330435
Cortana chose her appearance canonically
Anonymous No.725331189 [Report] >>725332183
>>725330781
She based it on a young halsey IIRC as her personality was a clone of her; but that's back from the lore where she was an ONI top secret project like the rest of the ship AIs, not a super special forerunner magical girl.

Also her initial appearance was rather conservative on account of the low poly-count; getting softer and softer over time was a function of graphics catching up to the idea.

Not that I'm complaining.
Anonymous No.725331628 [Report]
>>725330435
Pajeets. They're always horny and love AI
Anonymous No.725332183 [Report] >>725335441
>>725331189
Isn't it kinda weird that Halsey gave Chief an AI who looked like a younger and hotter version of herself, even though Halsey was somewhat of a surrogate mother figure to the Spartans,
Anonymous No.725332516 [Report]
>>725327525
>>725327750
>>725328079
Man you retards have no idea what you're talking about. Some of the best japanese films don't explain shit and overuse long holding shots with just background noise. Even fucking Dragon Ball (sub) has kino moments that got ruined by the dub trying to explain everything, like Gohan's SSJ2 transformation. Or just look at the entire genre of American vs Japanese horror. Americans pathologically try to explain everything about the ghost, spirit, or monster to the point that nothing's scary anymore whereas Jap horror kept things vague. Skinamarink did the later and it got panned by the mainstream. Or just look at what english speakers did to the backrooms and SCP. Or what they fucking did to Silent Hill.
Anonymous No.725333126 [Report]
>>725328804
>Harmonica intensifies
Anonymous No.725334235 [Report]
>>725327750
Its just the culture. Japanese TV and films are all like this. They're rooted in Japanese theater which is...theatrical, and values overacting and overexpressing compared to western media that values subtlety
Anonymous No.725334851 [Report] >>725341258
>>725330062
>In Japan the video game industry was considered to be for outcasts who weren't good enough to make it into the film industry
I've seen what Japan's film industry has to offer and their games are far better.
Anonymous No.725335002 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
reserved, quiet, stoic, doesnt exist anymore

now you're AUTISTIC. everything is autism.
Anonymous No.725335129 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
I've only played Yakuza 0, but Kiryu is not autistic.
Anonymous No.725335441 [Report] >>725335741
>>725332183
Is that a flamethrower? I've only really played the first 2 games and some of the 3rd and ODST. I always thought some sort of heavy scifi flamethrower would be the best weapon against the flood.
Anonymous No.725335578 [Report]
>>725327007
>I wish we never discovered mental health.
We didn't discover anything, it's purely a Jewish invention. It's astrology.
Anonymous No.725335680 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
Turns out that most badass dudes are just stoic autistic murderers and it's just a balance of how much cameratime they spend staring into nothing vs rocking up with bombastic soundtrack.
Anonymous No.725335741 [Report] >>725336646
>>725335441
Yeah the flamethrower was in 3s singleplayer and was only in the mp of CE on PC
Anonymous No.725336646 [Report]
>>725335741
Aw, lit, I'll have to give 3 another go and actually beat it this time.
I've only ever played modded CE way back with my old friends, so I probably saw a flamethrower but just assumed it was a mod like the tachikomas and stuff
Anonymous No.725338930 [Report] >>725340197
>>725326506 (OP)
i'm autistic and piss and shit my pants all the time
Anonymous No.725339128 [Report]
>>725330062
So basically, TV, film, and books are in a league of their own, while video games and anime/manga are a lower form of art that's on the same level as porn
Anonymous No.725339260 [Report]
>>725327750
>But Japanese media has absolutely no grasp of subtlety or nuance.
And western media does?
Anonymous No.725339267 [Report]
>>725328804
harmonica was supposed to be autistic tho
Anonymous No.725340197 [Report]
>>725338930
go to the bathroom!
Anonymous No.725340494 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
See >>725328765
Sure, some concepts about stoicism can be interesting and useful, but to apply it to its fullest is just stupid.
Anonymous No.725341258 [Report]
>>725334851
That's not the way they see it (or at least not the way they used to until recently). If you told someone in 90s Japan you were a game developer, the response would be along the lines of "that's rough, buddy".
Anonymous No.725343236 [Report]
>>725326506 (OP)
>gf finds out your autistic
>she's the one in a trillion girl that actually showed an attraction to you
>if you break up with her you will never get another gf