Thread 725330259

>“Software development costs are higher and development periods are longer, making it more challenging to continue introducing new titles at a good pace.

> Nintendo Switch 2 can also play compatible Nintendo Switch software, so we would like to recommend Nintendo Switch software as well to consumers who are picking up a game console for the first time. With these considerations in mind, we believe we will be able to maintain the momentum of our Nintendo Switch 2 business by striking a good balance between introducing new titles and encouraging consumers to play evergreen titles over a long period of time.”

>game development takes time
:o

tendies gotta tendie.

>>725330259 (OP)
makes sense. they ran out of wii u games to port

>>725330259 (OP)
He admits the obvious?

>>725330328
The tendies are taking longer to cook in the oven ):

>>725330259 (OP)
EZ fix. Just buy some smaller companies.

"Rounding up established dev partners (multiple projects, smaller/lean) that could be a good possibility for acquisition targets imo:

Japan
Arika
Camelot Software Planning
Eighting (owned by Colopl)
Good-Feel
Grezzo
HAL Laboratory
Intelligent Systems
indieszero
Jupiter
Overseas
Day 4 Night Productions (ex-Ubisoft Milan)
Tantalus (owned by Keywords Studios)"

>>725330431
They already have smaller studios, it's not about the lack of manpower, it's the change in philosophy that plagues the AAA industry, I miss real handhelds because at least smaller games were still allowed to exist. Nowadays we have studios wasting several years and losing millions of dollars while asking what they're supposed to do with game development becoming longer and more expensive, when the answer is right there

>>725330259 (OP)
This will be probably be fixed once they finish the new building and have more space for more devs

>fewer games because of muh grafix
The industry should be forced back down to Dreamcast-level graphics. PCfags and their overpriced GPUs should be seized and destroyed, then dumped into a PS5 landfill. Then we'll see if these hack devs can still make something fun.

they already mastered 3d with wind waker where the characters have almost no textures.
any other art style is just choosing to suck

>>725331167
You say this when Pokémon is arguably the most blatantly lazy shit imaginable

>>725330343
This

They should drag out 10th generation then and not bother until there a true generational leap that's worth it and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Drag this generation out so the budget can decrease drastically or just focus on indies and AA games.

>>725330343
Start porting all of your 3DS games then

>>725331304
And it's only gotten worse as technology improved.

>>725330259 (OP)
I don't know how dev development is getting higher and higher, when their staple has been making games that could have been created 15 years prior if was on a stronger platform. For what the last 20 years?

>>725333028
>technology improved
>improved

>>725330598
Nobody is going to pay even $1.00 for a 15 minute game. Not even Nintendo is that retarded.
People are spoiled for choice now, and they will always expect more.

>>725333679
Last year Nintendo released Emio the Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club for $50 even though it's like 3 hours long

>>725330259 (OP)
What games they made for switch 1, wiiu ports and emulators don't count

>>725330259 (OP)
It's because the industry let in too many cal arts assholes and other art school rejects. Who dont know the first thing about entertainment. But are more obsessed with the craft of game design. They're all a bunch of pretentious pieces of shit. Narcissists who want to be worshiped for something. They all idolize steve jobs, because he was the only one among their kind who actually made it. Because he knew how to exploit his fellow narcissists and sell products to them.

The game industry was better, smaller and much more profitable, when it was just a bunch of bros making games about things that interested them. The original neversoft team that made tony hawks pro skater was about a dozen guys. The pro skater 5 team was huge! Spread across two studios with hundreds of people and contractors too.

>>725330259 (OP)
LMFAO
Holy fucking shit
>please play our old shit
They have nothing. That explains the horrible announcements and lineup. Tendies are cooked

>>725330259 (OP)
remember when everyone thought it would be the PS4 pro level........

>>725334028
>ARMS
>Splatoon 2 and 3
>Super Mario Odyssey
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and 3
>Fire Emblem: Three Houses
>Animal Crossing: New Horizons
>Kirby and the Forgotten Land
>Bayonetta 3
>Pokémon (numerous but they suck)
>Pikmin 4
>Super Mario Maker 2
>Kirby Star Allies
>Luigi’s Mansion 3
>Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
>Super Mario Bros. Wonder
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3
>Astral Chain
>Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
>Mario and Luigi Brothership

>>725330343
Nope, they still have Star Fox Zero and Kirby Rainbow Curse.
>>725332563
In that case, can they port Uprising already?

>>725334253
>It's because the industry let in too many cal arts assholes and other art school rejects.
you are throwing random buzzwords together in the hopes that you will make a coherent post

>>725330259 (OP)
Make smaller cheaper games?

>>725330259 (OP)
>All time profit records month after month
>Please understand
Every fucking time, it's becoming the next game freak

>>725334757
Not him.but most of those are just watered down versions of their previous entries

>>725336643
Some are undeniably killer apps, though. Smash Ultimate, Mario Odyssey, Mario Wonder, Luigi’s Mansion 3, and Kirby and the Forgotten land are truly great games.

>>725334757
You forgot
>Metroid Dread

>games are taking longer to make
>THIS IS IT NINTENDO IS FINISHED
???

>>725330259 (OP)
They have literally had exclusives out every single month since release
This is the part where you seethe btw

>>725336643
Fucks sake just take the L bro
The goalpost moving is cringe

>>725330259 (OP)
its their first time having to make actual graphics

>>725331167
>>fewer games because of muh grafix
Yeah. Because Nintendo games are known for their elite graphical fidelity, lmfao. Switch 2 games look no fucking different than Switch games, and Switch games look like cell phone games from a decade ago.

>>725337089
Who are you quoting?

25-30 fucking years ago all the greatest games of all time were made with 1-2 years development time. There's no excuse for modern devs who have the benefit of 30 years of technological advancements and game designs to look back on.

This means the Switch 2 will have an even longer life than the Switch 1 did.

>>725337231
DK Bananza could not run on Switch 1.

>>725337264
All of the sensationalist niggers in this thread

>>725337267
if you want games that are like the games from 25-30 years ago they're called indie games and there are thousands on steam right now

>>725336643
The same can be said of Sony and Xbox too nigger, what kind of shitty reasoning is that.
Are you actually subhuman, is your family tree a fucking circle.
Kill yourself.

>>725330259 (OP)
Consoles and now console-phones do nothing but hold gaming back as a medium.

>>725330259 (OP)
Translation: Expect a vidya drought, so please play our current and old catalog of games while you wait between 4 to 8 years per title.
Figured this would be the case considering they're also focusing on managing more shit films. They might be in a rough spot come 2027 and '28.

>>725330328
>>725330381
>snoys are this retarded

>>725331167
>back down to Dreamcast-level graphics
I know dreamcast games that look better than pokeslop xy chromosomes

>>725336501
Hell, they don't even need to do that. They just need keep development teams leaner and have a program in place to train programmers and developers on the engine and tools for the platform. A simple "Continuing education" program would be a cheap, long term investment to both keep experienced developers up to date and sharing their knowledge, while on boarding new developers who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground because they are fresh out of college and learned nothing of value. You'd think if any publisher were to do something like that it would be a Japanese company since they tend not to be as retarded as Western companies in just mass firing everyone if there is more than a 2 minute break between projects so it looks good on the financial report.

The problem with game development is largely a competency problem, because the tools available to developers are easier and more comprehensive than ever, if they just bother to learn them. 20 years ago you making an indie game was a trial, now a days an off the shelf free engine let's a complete amateur make games as complex as many early PS1 games in a few weeks. But teams are too large and suffer the too many cooks problem, too feminized so HR has too much sway and bogs everything down, and too inexperienced with no time given to learn the tools they have been given.

>>725337769
So far they've been releasing titles every month retard

>>725330259 (OP)
>"Switch 2 game development takes longer than the original"
This isn't just a Switch 2 thing it's an industry wide thing. Did you not notice GTA6 is coming out 13, possibly 14 years after GTAV? The last Elder Scrolls was 13 years ago in 2/3 days and we still have an unknown number of years until the next one.

Look at major Indie releases like Silksong you can't even expect Indie games to come out in a quick. I don't even own a Switch 2 so fuck off /v/ if you claim I'm just a nintentoddler defending Nintendo when I'm just pointing out easily observed facts. The whole video game industry is fucked with increasing game dev times.

>>725337721
>B-But what about [other thing]!
>Implying everyone hasn't already given up on other thing

>>725337510
No, those games are pretty shit and made by hobbyists who lack the talent.

Apparently all of the retards ITT just forgot that Nintendo will have their second HQ opening within tbe next year or two to vastly increase their production capacity.

>>725337982
it sounds more like you value nostalgia over the actual games themselves

>>725334623
It’s about an Xbox series s which is fine

>>725337890
>So far
That's what I thought, ball washer.

>>725338008
That's in 2028, not next year.

>>725338150
What else could it be retard?
I can't see into the future
Just hold the L and fuck off

chasing the graphical dragon was a mistake

>>725338046
No, it means the people making the indies are hobbyists with access to a storefront from which they'd otherwise be excluded due to quality control systems that are no longer in place.

>>725338501
They're not chasing anything when they're still making games that look like gamecube games, or worse in the case of Pokemon ZA.

>>725338531
What about silksong is worse than super metroid? What about balatro is different from older card games?

>evergreen titles
Gaming is so dead. I expected MS to go there with Game Pass. Why make new games when you can charge people for streamable libraries of old games. But now Nintendo can't even push out new games? Fuck.

>>725331304
Pokemon's engine being bad is on Gamefreak, the tera leak even mentions that for gen 10 generative features will be introduced, it will be even more lazy.

>>725338671
>What about silksong is worse than super metroid?
The pacing, act 3 is a total pacekiller.

>>725336406
Art school asshole detected!

Lemme guess your entire portfolio is comprised solely of photographs of yourself in faggotty little costumes, because you're a narcissistic piece of shit who wants 'to be the art piece.' Fuck you!. I hate you. People like you are the reason why modern entertainment is so bad. It's just a bunch of faggot ass theater kids promoted to positions of they are too incompetent to handle. You cant innovate or create anything new. All your work is derivative. Based off ideas of better men. How many times you gonna take a one off side character from a movie and give him an entire show? Pointless and stupid. You're the reason why I quit wanting to be in the creative fields. Because you people are gay, dumb, fake and mediocre.

Nintendo is not immune to the same struggles the rest of the industry is facing, they're just one generation delayed. So TOTK taking 6 years, Mario Kart world taking 8 years, Donkey Kong Bonanza taking 6 years with other Nintendo games taking just as many years is just gonna be the norm now and there's really nothing they can do to change things which is why Nintendo talked about buying more developers and giving them what they need to make the game over the years.

>>725338850
>schizobabble
take your meds

>>725339083
You will never be an artist.

>>725339335
I'm not an artist, that's just a schizo hallucination that you're having.

Honestly I really wished he said this before I bought the fucking thing. And for what. No announcements and Mario kart world being the only thing worth playing.

>725338413
Just shut up, esl.

>>725337231
Modern development pipelines were coming into effect around 2013 so yes cell phone games from a decade ago count as modern games technologically. The development bottleneck specifically is the time required to take an asset from Zbrush to in-engine model with PBR materials which is way more time consuming than any assets creation pipeline during the 2000s. You can look up stories of coders making level props in their free time which literally cannot happen today because of the massive assembly line required to take a single game asset from concept art to completion. This is the single and only reason modern game development takes a fuckload of time and literally nobody is talking about it because the narrative that le shitty EA and Ubislop are the reason games are bad now is more palatable than accepting everyone is being enslaved by GPU manufacturers in a futile graphical arms race.

>>725330328
The fuck you mean, the rest of the industry has this issue worse than Nintendo does

>>725330259 (OP)
The rest of the industry is going to speed up due to the automation of mundane tasks with help of AI while Nintendo is stuck modeling every single tree and drawing every texture by hand due to their principles. Let's see how long it lasts.

>>725340358
>going to
When do the 2 more weeks come? Because it's been "around the corner" for years now.

>>725333679
Small scope games don't need to be short, also they don't need to be full priced either which I believe it's the actual problem since they don't want to release anything for less than $70

>>725340515
Some youtuber just made a fully fledged action game with triple-A level graphics in two weeks using generative AI, once Musk's company starts shitting out games you'll see.

>>725340694
>Some youtuber just made a fully fledged action game with triple-A level graphics in two weeks using generative AI
Wow so this game must be really popular right? Surely it's sold millions of copies?

>>725340770
There's no benefit to putting your head in the sand anon, not seeing what's right in front of you doesn't make it disappear.

>>725341086
Still waiting for an answer. Where is this best-selling popular AI game?

>>725341581
>Where is this best-selling popular AI game?
NTR GIRLFRIEND #1234

Can someone explain to me 'why' game development has to take more time now? It's seen almost as universally true, but why? What is stopping a fully functional (not indie) company from releasing 6th gen level production games on a one year cycle? Super Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker look good enough to release today.

>>725341924
>>725340134

>>725341581
Amazon just canceled their Lord of the Rings MMO and fired all the devs to focus on AI development while simultaneously releasing an AI snoopdog game. Microsoft canceled half their games to focus on AI and force all their current staff to use it in every task, I'm expecting the next TES game to rely on it heavily, maybe even implement an LLM for their NPCs. Times are a changin

>>725342127
It's gonna be so funny when the first AAA heavily involved AI game launches, and it's a flop. These are still shitty modern western devs, who all think AI is the answer to their troubles. When it doesn't work out, it's gonna be a calamity.

>>725342127
>while simultaneously releasing an AI snoopdog game
How successful was this AI snoopdog game?

>>725342213
>when the first AAA heavily involved AI game launches
starfield
>and it's a flop
it sucks ass but it didn't flop

>>725342262
no idea

>>725342352
>Starfield
>not a flop
Critical coping

>>725342127
And Xbox has given up on the console wars.
Meanwhile Nintendo:

>>725342352
Starfield came out in 2023. It did not have even a fraction of the time to incorporate content from the 2022 AI boom and onward.

>>725342536
Yea selling underpowered hardware at a high price to a loyal fanbase of boomers and parents of small children is a good business strategy, I don't expect it'll last though as most kids moved on to Ipads and mobiles with roblox and other freemium games and all that is left are the boomers that grew up with Mario. Once those stop caring Nintendo has to move on to creating mobile games like Pokemon did to capture young audiences again, by then they'll be a multiplat company like Xbox.

>>725330343
rofl

>>725338501
It's not even grafix at this point but but content and scale.