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Anonymous No.725433675 [Report] >>725434068 >>725434247 >>725437420 >>725439187 >>725440562 >>725442482 >>725447509
Aside from Arcanum are there any RPGs with a steampunk bend?
Anonymous No.725433752 [Report] >>725433983
steampunk's for gays
Anonymous No.725433983 [Report] >>725440872 >>725446493
>>725433752
Nah, that's more often cyberpunk. Unfortunately.

Steampunk can be gay and cringe, certainly. But the idea of a world where the victorian age never stopped is actually pretty ripe for based things.

An age of unapologetic, unfettered colonialism would be really cool as a setting.
Anonymous No.725434068 [Report] >>725434242 >>725438861
>>725433675 (OP)
EMPYRE trilogy, I think? Games no one is sadly aware they even exist.
Anonymous No.725434242 [Report]
>>725434068
Looks interesting. Can you tell me more about it, anon?
Anonymous No.725434247 [Report] >>725434454
>>725433675 (OP)
detective girl of steam city
Anonymous No.725434271 [Report] >>725434454
They Are Billions and Against the Storm
Anonymous No.725434454 [Report] >>725469243
>>725434247
While I'm no prude I don't play porn games with female protagonists.

>>725434271
I was more looking for RPGs but TAB seems neat. ATS doesn't seem very steampunk at first glance
Anonymous No.725435781 [Report]
Anonymous No.725436024 [Report] >>725436374 >>725437263
why didn't dieselpunk ever take off
Anonymous No.725436374 [Report] >>725436551
>>725436024
Troons infested it.
Anonymous No.725436551 [Report] >>725436675 >>725464739
>>725436374
i don't believe you, but mostly out of fearful disgust
Anonymous No.725436675 [Report] >>725436754
>>725436551
Most the dieselpunk obsessed types I've met are troons, but that may just be sample bias.
Anonymous No.725436754 [Report] >>725436983
>>725436675
fuck 'em, i refuse to let a bunch of neon haired he-shes lay claim to crimson skies
Anonymous No.725436983 [Report] >>725437747
>>725436754
It's more because that aesthetic appeals strongly to autistic types. And you know how autism and troons go together.

It is a shame Crimson Skies died, though. Was hoping with the Battletech revival it would follow.
Anonymous No.725437229 [Report] >>725452027
For me? It is biopunk.
Anonymous No.725437263 [Report] >>725437747 >>725438041
>>725436024
Because almost all aspects of it are covered more inherently in other cultures and subcultures, and the same thing except on diesel isn't a big enough difference to be *that* noteworthy. Take for example robots. You have can have mechs or golems in virtually any aesthetic and for the rest you have gundam. Cars? Bikes? Cyberpunk already does that with more shiny. Mechanics and engineering? Again, steampunk/clockwork, even arguably solarpunk. And that's kinda where dieselpunk stops where other themes can still expand. Steampunk has airships and aerial combat, tanks, rifling... With dieselpunk it's much harder to step away from real-life (or RL adjacent) stuff into fantasy.
Anonymous No.725437420 [Report] >>725438041 >>725444806 >>725457728 >>725459110
>>725433675 (OP)
Kino steampunk rpg is coming soonish from a inxile
Anonymous No.725437747 [Report] >>725438859
>>725437263
I think that's exactly why I like it. It's kinda weird, but not TOO weird. Like a greatest-hits collection of "things I think are cool" but without hyperfocusing on the weird parts to the lengths of slapping gears and Nixie tubes everywhere (which didn't FUCKING EXIST YET). Like near-future 'mundane predictive sci fi' but going backwards instead of forwards. I dunno, I guess it's basically just 'retrofuturism but boring' compared to all the varieties that latch on real hard to robotics, nuclear power, steam, whatever, and sometimes boring is okay since it's just a backdrop for a story anyway.

>>725436983
I guess, I just figured it would be the type of autist who collects Jane's reference manuals and paints miniatures to play wargames against himself rather than the kind who collects Chinese hormone supplements and paints minis to show off pride flags.
>inb4 they're the same thing
don't do this to me
Anonymous No.725438041 [Report] >>725439203
>>725437263
Marauders had an interesting take on a far future dieselpunk. Shame it died.

>>725437420
I've been waiting for years.
Anonymous No.725438859 [Report] >>725439341 >>725439491 >>725440043
>>725437747
I get what you mean anon, but in general people usually get interested in / hooked by a certain thing. Like, say, big ass airships. Sure dieselpunk can have them, but they fit steampunk better. In steampunk the whole industry chain makes sense from some heavily industrialized society with its coalmines and brass manufactury, both of which you need for the boilers on the ship. But those boilers need a mechanic, and now you have an excuse to establish a middleclass with higher-ish education. And that's a gateway to the rest of the niche characters, like pilots and a military industry to airship captains and pirates, which is a gateway to trading and economy, political intrigue, etc. For which you already have the backdrop from the bottom up.

Comparatively, and I mean no offense, dieselpunk feels like a knock-off. It's not practical to keep enough diesel/petrol fuel on a vehicle designed to fly, as opposed to land or water based transportation. But even if you take that for granted and suspend your disbelief, now it becomes a question of how that fuel gets there and how these ships will even dock. Steampunk airships just float, so medieval ports except in the air make sense and look cool. Here you'll need landing strips, and based on real life, those are reasonably high maintenance for cutting edge technology (I don't mean some rural airstrip for dusting crops). It makes sense those would be government property if not all military, both of which implies the fuel getting there is also done through government property. It just unnecessarily complicates things, and makes it harder for roleplayers to get into this sort of world without a highly specialized character for whom it makes sense to access this kind of infrastructure, but that's limiting.
Anonymous No.725438861 [Report]
>>725434068
>they actually released the entire trilogy
I haven't even heard rpg codex talk about these
Anonymous No.725439187 [Report]
>>725433675 (OP)
If you're fine with Legend of Grimlock-likes, there are the Vaporum games. They're decent, can scratch that itch if you want more Grimlock, but neither are as good.
Anonymous No.725439203 [Report] >>725439368
>>725438041
The studio head talks about clockwork revolution towards the end of this interview. It sounds pretty ambitious for a small AAA studio, hopefully they it off and is worth the wait. https://youtu.be/tjeRn2eA3y4?si=4O-c_g1dMQD6Jvn7
Anonymous No.725439341 [Report] >>725439791 >>725440043
>>725438859
i stopped being able to think about big ass airships as a steampunk thing after realizing the hidenburg crashed only two years before WWII and that the US military was still fucking around with zeppelins until the 19 fucking 70s, and the autist in me (it is a very loud autist) feels that airships only 'fit' steampunk because we're so used to seeing them in it ina self fueling cycle. granted i'm thinking about lighter than air travel in the form of helium/hydrogen, not just big blimps filled with hot air/steam, the former of which is so far removed from the era of steam it's almost weird to think about
i'm too autistic for fiction and suspension of disbelief, i guess. or just have lingering distaste from living in the years of shitty steampunk cosplays overtaking the front page of deviantart and digg

>I mean no offense
none taken man, everyone likes different things and i enjoy reading anons wax about the things they like most even if it isn't precisely what i like most
Anonymous No.725439368 [Report]
>>725439203
Yeah, it seems very big scope. Plus it's their first game in this style.
Anonymous No.725439491 [Report]
>>725438859
>and makes it harder for roleplayers to get into this sort of world without a highly specialized character for whom it makes sense to access this kind of infrastructure, but that's limiting.
Just steal one and never bother mentioning landing or supply or anything. It works for all the Final Fantasy games with airships that are powered by Magic Substances that Definitely Aren't Fuel and manned by the player's party of 3 people and a talking mascot.
Anonymous No.725439791 [Report] >>725440043 >>725440459
>>725439341
>lingering distaste from living in the years of shitty steampunk cosplays overtaking the front page of deviantart and digg
Luckily for me, I guess, in that same timeframe I was in chatrooms RPing with autists more interested in the engineering and economy parts of steampunk than just looking "cool". Yes it was Cloudsdale fight me.
Anonymous No.725440043 [Report] >>725440459
>>725439791
>>725438859
>>725439341
NTA but OP and to me what interests me about steampunk, cogfoppery aside, is that it takes place in a fundamentally different world. Dieselpunk can sorta be like that, but by the time most dieselpunk is set things are rather modern by conventional standards. You don't have the massive colonial empires and the associated fighting. You don't have the very different social mores and classes are a lot less distinct.

The idea of Steampunk is "what if the 19th century never ended", at least to me. The idea of dieselpunk, conversely, seems more akin to 'what if the 20th century was different'. And I say that as somebody who enjoys dieselpunk when it's not trannies with anime girl avatars larping about communism.
Anonymous No.725440459 [Report] >>725440828 >>725440967
>>725439791
>engineering and economy
actually jealous. i wish those kinds of wonderful maniacs were still a common thing, picking people's brains about the logic behind fiction and finding out not only do they have an answer but they wrote a whole goddamn lore book. "but what do they eat" became a meme but that shit's great, honestly, even if people way more rich and successful than me go "i dunno lol, anything not in the story doesn't matter"

>>725440043
yeah that makes sense. even the aforementioned airships-and-planes setting(s) usually have to invent a reason for there to be fighting on a scale where the tech actually still makes sense, e.g. either the great depression didn't end, or it was ended by the war machine turning on itself instead of spinning up to take on europe. but that all tends to center around very specific years and events while it seems one of the neat things about steampunk and its brethren is that by being both so different and so 'standard' (for lack of a better word) you can throw in some top hats and cannons and you don't even NEED a world or a year because people immediately know what to expect, which can be more fun when mixed with things they definitely don't expect like Arcanum's magic/tech mixups, or Thief's City. that isn't an RPG but should be recommended anyway along with The Metal Age imho
>trannies with anime girl avatars larping about communism.
sometimes i'm happy the only social conversation i have online is here
>cogfoppery
lmfao
Anonymous No.725440562 [Report]
>>725433675 (OP)
some FFs
Anonymous No.725440828 [Report] >>725441343
>>725440459
If you're interested in the logistics behind how something like steampunk could have played out I invite you to learn about the proposed Difference Engine, which was a proto-computer designed in the 1820's. If that had been made and become widespread imagine how different things may have been. It's actually the plot behind one of the OG steampunk novels.

You can have dieselpunk in a non specific time frame, but it is definitely married far more to it than steampunk. A good example of dieselpunk done right imo is actually Fullmetal Alchemist.
Anonymous No.725440872 [Report] >>725440984
>>725433983
why would a world/theme based around technological advances stop advancing, faggot?
also you're thinking of age of discovery
Anonymous No.725440967 [Report] >>725441343
>>725440459
You can still have that. I've been looking for an excuse to do some story based autism RP on a VintageStory server, but I'm sure there are plenty of games where you can have a similar experience. Or there's always AI slop.
Anonymous No.725440984 [Report]
>>725440872
>why would this alternate history be alternate

Without world war 1 the world would be incomprehensibly different. I personally suspect the age of empires wouldn't have ended without the gaping, bleeding wound in the soul of europe that was the Great War.
Anonymous No.725441343 [Report] >>725441652 >>725441953
>>725440828
mechanical computers are cool as fuck albeit most of my vague knowledge is 20th century stuff (almost all of which developed for war of course, mechanical automatic bomb sights and auto pilot and all are rad and make me realize just how smart some people are and how non smart i am). what's the novel name, if you don't mind?
>FMA
i should really actually read/watch that sometime, huh. onto the to do list it goes. i'm dozing off but fuckin love threads like these, just random anons talking about something with no irony or shitposting. sometimes /v/ is still good
>>725440967
yeah AI sloppa is my holdover for now but the complexity and depth just ain't there, even for the paid models. i guess people say they're great for cooming but actual story-writing and such eat up tokens WAY faster than "ahh ahh mistress" and art-wise is a total wash for my purposes
Anonymous No.725441652 [Report]
>>725441343
The novel's name is The Difference Engine by Gibson and Sterling. I encourage you to both read it and to look in to the various wild prototypes that there were in the 19th and early 20th century. Steamplanes were a thing, albiet never perfected.

And yes, anon. You really should watch FMA. One of the best anime out there. Sometimes a good niche thread like this show that /v/ isn't so bad. Though I did want more game suggestions.
Anonymous No.725441953 [Report]
>>725441343
Yeah, it takes a lot to wrangle LLMs around. You can use databanks and/or lorebooks, summarizers, stat trackers and shit, but eventually it'll get too repetitive and bland or start doing asspulls. My greatest achievement was a Skyrim RP that I managed to get through 700-ish messages, but it just needed way too much maintenance to be worth it.
Anonymous No.725442482 [Report] >>725442908
>>725433675 (OP)
Steamworld Quest: Hand of Gilgamech
Final Fantasy 6
Nostalgia (NDS) kind of, but it's really more early Edwardian
Anonymous No.725442908 [Report] >>725443449
>>725442482
>Nostalgia (NDS) kind of, but it's really more early Edwardian
I actually knew about that game but never played it. I'd definitely say it counts as steampunk, though. Is it good?
Anonymous No.725443449 [Report] >>725443581
>>725442908
its slow-paced and takes a few dungeons to build up, but it's a rock solid archeological adventure rpg, complete with secret society armies and resurrected ancient empires bidding for world conquest (four of them in postgame)
I recommend playing with a code to double or quadruple your exp and money to cut down on the grind
Anonymous No.725443581 [Report] >>725444495
>>725443449
Are there romhacks for that?
Anonymous No.725444495 [Report]
>>725443581
not that I know of but it's not hard to apply cheatcodes in an emulator, flashcard, or if playing on 3ds via twilightmenu
Anonymous No.725444734 [Report] >>725445394
New Arc Line is basically just trying its best to rip off Arcarum and BG3 simultaneously for an, ok, result. So probably that if it ever gets out of EA hell.
Anonymous No.725444806 [Report] >>725445240
>>725437420
>Premade MC in an RPG
>Looks like an even gayer Dorian from DA:I somehow
Absolutely disgusting
Kill it.
Anonymous No.725445240 [Report] >>725445310 >>725445394 >>725445431 >>725462754
>>725444806
Their recent trailer clearly showed you can make your own character, but you are stuck with a pre-made name, which is kind of lame. Inxile's last game, Wasteland 3, was good, so they have a bit of my trust. They also added a few lead devs from Troika that worked on Arcanum and VTM Bloodlines, so that's also a plus for me.
Anonymous No.725445310 [Report] >>725445378 >>725448165 >>725448484
>>725445240
>Wasteland 3
>good
Anonymous No.725445378 [Report] >>725448165
>>725445310
NTA but Wasteland 3 was great overall, no idea why you would think otherwise.
Anonymous No.725445394 [Report] >>725445530
>>725444734
I heard it was very rough on launch. Been a year, is it better now?

>>725445240
I'm just not sure how they'll manage all the branching the mechanics will cause.
Anonymous No.725445431 [Report]
>>725445240
That does bring tangible hope overall, in fact. Not perfect, but definitely enough. Premature death sentence lifted.
Anonymous No.725445530 [Report]
>>725445394
>Is it better now?
Nothing much seems to have changed so far. Hence the EA hell statement. To say they are taking it slow is flattering as it is.
Anonymous No.725446493 [Report] >>725449986 >>725451303
>>725433983
Why is "based" now literally just embracing being a cartoon villain? You realise you'll always be the bad guys in this and any other setting?
Anonymous No.725447509 [Report]
>>725433675 (OP)
Bump
Anonymous No.725448165 [Report] >>725448426 >>725448484
>>725445310
>>725445378
Because Wasteland's setting is the most boring shit ever.
Anonymous No.725448426 [Report]
>>725448165
It does feel like discount Fallout even though it came before.
Anonymous No.725448484 [Report]
>>725445310
>>725448165
>thing
>good
>"why"
>because I don't like X
anyone else tired of those midwits
Anonymous No.725449986 [Report] >>725451416
>>725446493
>now
It always was like this but to answer your question it's the classic "4chan meme/shitpost that most people didn't take seriously are taken by normalfags that think that those memes/shitpost are 200% serious"
Anonymous No.725451303 [Report]
>>725446493
>bad guys
You are a stupid nigger.
Anonymous No.725451416 [Report] >>725452238 >>725455763
>>725449986
I don't think "ha ha colonialism, BASED!" is a very normal opinion. It's more that people seem to have gone from
>Maybe conservatism has some merit
to
>I fucking love evil and cruelty lel u mad
Anonymous No.725452027 [Report] >>725454198
>>725437229
Looks nice.
Anonymous No.725452238 [Report] >>725460506
>>725451416
this is the other side of years of pathological egalitarianism excusing every shitskin crime under the sun, now you have people cheering the deaths of ""refugees"" drowning in the sea lol
Anonymous No.725454198 [Report] >>725456417 >>725458958
>>725452027
Do not fuck the biomechanical warmachine
Anonymous No.725455763 [Report]
>>725451416
Blame Covid zoomers, nihilist and grifters that think that screaming those thinks are the most counterculture think ever because retards think every social media it's Resetera tiers of liberalism (you would be surprised with how much you could/can get away even in progressive circles)
Anonymous No.725456417 [Report] >>725457243
>>725454198
If they did not desire intercouse with the warmachine, they should not have made the warmachine plump and meat colored. A man must do what a man must do.
Anonymous No.725457243 [Report] >>725458958 >>725462782
>>725456417
Pls no
Anonymous No.725457728 [Report]
>>725437420
I want to try this only because I love Bioshock Infinite artstyle, please don't be a shitty linear shooter with a bad combat
Anonymous No.725458958 [Report] >>725459967
>>725457243
>>725454198
Damn this is cool, post more if you can anon.
Anonymous No.725459110 [Report]
>>725437420
that's outer worlds core
Anonymous No.725459967 [Report]
>>725458958
That's all from that particular artist I have unfortunately.
I have tons of other type of biotech artwork though in my inspiration/reference folder because I draw biotech stuff myself as well though not on this level.
Anonymous No.725460506 [Report]
>>725452238
But you say one bad word about a cynical grifter who became the best counterargument to his own disingenuous bullshit and suddenly there aren't enough pearls to clutch
Anonymous No.725462754 [Report]
>>725445240
>Can't name myself Fartmaster 3000
Gay
Anonymous No.725462782 [Report]
>>725457243
Does this nigga have Duracell batteries on the back? Kek
Anonymous No.725464739 [Report] >>725465204
>>725436551
I think the problem is that dieselpunk is implicitly going to be related to the WW1/2 aesthetic and usually setting which forces troons to infest themselves in it to make sure nobody does a badwrong(badong) think and this throttles the infant in its crib
see: Trench Crusade
Anonymous No.725465204 [Report] >>725465420 >>725465809
>>725464739
I hadn't heard of that so I googled it and I want to call it Dollar General 40k mixed with Keith Thompson art-imitation, but I also saw this image of some sort of big British warship and had a giggle because I recognize that statue and it sure ain't British.
Anonymous No.725465420 [Report] >>725465610
>>725465204
Specifically, it's from the USS Massachusetts of the 1890s.
Anonymous No.725465610 [Report]
>>725465420
Also, I'm 99% sure I saw a Quake map that looked just like this but I don't know if it predates this thing or not.
Anonymous No.725465809 [Report] >>725465896
>>725465204
its only relevancy was trying to leap into a perceived gap left by GW being really gay and stupid with its properties (a truly rare occurrence) and promptly failing to gain any traction outside of twitter/reddit secondaries because the setting is shallow, only really scratching the Krieger itch a little, and the creative team is filled with troons
whenever anyone actually took a good look at it there's simply nothing really interesting there besides the visual design which as noted is just dollar store 40k
Anonymous No.725465896 [Report]
>>725465809
how do i stop an overly autistic setting from not bieng shallow
t. idiot
Anonymous No.725465945 [Report] >>725466735
hey punk
Anonymous No.725466735 [Report]
>>725465945
hey pig
Anonymous No.725469243 [Report]
>>725434454
>TAB seems neat
Just know that it's very difficult and punishing and relies on 30min+ runs with no save function so if you fuck up once you lose it all.
Also skip the campaign