Thread 725435551

Slave markets in EU5 go hard

>>725435551 (OP)
They should, slavery is historically big business

>>725435679
Big buisness but poor economics

>>725435852
That's just a cope.
>HURR FREE LABOUR IS ACTUALLY LE EXPENSIVE
Yeah sure, whatever you say retard.

>>725435551 (OP)
Hard in the taint, because niggers tongue my anus.

>>725435551 (OP)
slavery was a mistake, look how it ruined america!

>>725436990
>Ottomans? Moroccans? Who are they?

ITT:

>>725436990
>whats the crimean khanate, what are the barbary statates? Ottomans? Never heard of them.
Outing yourself as a historylet this hard...

IM MINTINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>725436990
Indeed we were slaves and so forth

>>725436990
Yeah but I never whine about it

>>725435551 (OP)
Can I send my slaves to France to fuck shit up? That way that shithole has less opportunities to fuck me up

I'm almos at year 1400 with Serbia and I have no idea what i'm doing economically and technollogically. God bless Automation.

>>725438771
>Balkan leadership has no idea whats uts doing
Realustic

>>725436990
i've discovered that one's ancestry was formerly regents and suchlike

>>725436990
What should be the natural state of whites.

WHY IS EVERYONE CONSTANTLY BREAKING OUR ALLIANCES FOR NO FUCKING REASON

I'VE LOST 4 GAMES TO THIS SHIT ALREADY

>>725439295
Kek

>>725439363
>t. millions of his people were subjugated by 5k anglos

>>725436990
Yakub created whites to be slaves

Catholic or Protestant, time to choose /v/

>>725443295
Catholic

>>725435551 (OP)
I'm glad it's over
>*pays over 60% total taxation*

>>725436990
we don't talk about the kidnapped slavics that has been a thing for eons

>>725443747
>slavs
>white

>>725436990
The entire slavic people are called so because they were SLAVES

>>725443295
hellenic restoration

>>725435551 (OP)
The natives keep dying, what else can you do?

>>725443295
Shinto

>>725444743
ooooh
kawai desu ne

>>725444743
UVH

>>725436990
>>725436696
>>725444743
>>725444053

>>725445009
What am I supposed to do if not play japan after they ruined iberia by pushing back the start date
I don't actually have the game at all, i'm waiting for the iberia expansion to see what state its in

>>725443295
I just want to make money and the pope has been okay to me so far. Think I'm staying catholic.

I constantly have unprofitable weaponsmiths and brewerers in my market. I've built up the RGOs for their raw materials a fuckload of times, but that doesn't seem to help at all. What else can I do to make them turn profit?

>>725435551 (OP)
how's the game so far??
I spent thousands of hours in eu 4 but paradox launches are notoriously bad

>>725447389
Actually very good mechanics.
But the AI is clearly too passive and will let you roll it over once you stabilize economy enough.
Still better AI than on HoI4 release.
And EU4 still straight ignores game mechanics like forts anyway.

>>725447389
Very good shitty AI but it can't be helped

>>725447125
Nothing. Just wait until the goods are more in demand. They will because people will need a lot of weapons for soldier and grog for ships.

>>725447389
It's very fun to play around exploring the mechanics. Game has almost no mana system so it doesn't feel like you're being patronized.

>>725447389
Mechanically it is better than ever. But AI is so dumb that it really killed my enthusiasm once I learned to play properly.

How well would this game run on my Ryzen 7 3700X?

>>725436990
Yes, the whole Muslim world, and specially the Ottoman Empire, enslaved millions of Europeans for almost a thousand years.

>>725435551 (OP)
Still in 1400....

I wish you could choose whether to automate trade based on max profit or focus on importing based on pop/building needs. It's annoying as fuck trying to keep my pops happy in a small market

>>725436990
>Suicide bombs your faggot slaver shithole

Why tho

>>725448147
Because your pushing power is 0.1962

>>725436696
Slavery only makes sense for dumbest lowest effort labor.

You can force a slave to pick cotton, but a cotton harvester will be more efficient. Will you entrust an expensive and complex machine into an arms of barely literate nigger slave? Or will you pay a little bit more and hire somebody who will actually be motivated to stay employed? You won't have to feed and house the latter, too.

Losing control of long away provinces is bullshit. I don't want to have vassals or fiefdoms, I want a huge blob in the same color as my country. Fuck this retarded design.

>>725448354
KWAB

nobles be seethin'

>>725448312
Slavery is quite literally the solution to pre-mechanization labor shortages
No one fucking wants to pick sugar but we need it, ergo slavery

>>725448312
>>725435852
>ave to pick cotton, but a cotton harvester will be more efficient
Let me guess, you believe working 9-5 for shekels is better
You are a bigger slv than your predecessors
>>725436990
oday we're slaves to stein

>>725448492
Based. Nothing I love more than autocratmaxxing. I can't play anything else than monarchies for this reason.

>>725448492
I kneel.

>>725443295
Lollard for the bonuses to literacy

>>725443295
Norse Paganism

>conquer
>give land to a vassal
>annex the vassal
>land starts with high control but soon falls down to 0-10 anyway
So should I just never annex anything that's further than 5 provinces from my capital? what's the strat here

>>725448759
what the fuck is happening is wales

>>725448759
MY WORD IS LAW

>>725449048
You ger more control tools down the line. This basically means you should not annex your vassals for the first 100+ years or so.

>>725435551 (OP)
It's kinda gross that white people make games about slavery to entertain themselves tbqh.

>>725449048
Release everything but your starting province

>>725435551 (OP)
I'm playing as the Rothschild's OPM and I get over 400 monthly enslavement on Goymany

>>725436990
Literally deriving the name from Slavs.

The beauty of their women and the taste of their food made the Brits the best sailors in the world.

>>725449094
France whipped UK so hard in the hundred years' war that they are now lower in great power score than me. I'm doing great except for that fact that a monster 10x my size is on my border.

Hod do I increase pop growth?

UVH

>>725447504
>>725447660
>>725447697
>Mechanics
Well just saying mechanics doesn't exactly clarify what is so good about them. Personally, things like the pops and goods management just seems like more to micromanage while the AI struts around like a chicken with its head cut off.

>>725436990
The English word slave originates from Slav.
Pagan Slavs were commonly enslaved by Christians pre-11th century.

>>725449608
Found towns and upgrade them to cities.

>>725448354
You literally can conquer, just no tax income or levies from the provinces.
Also baliffs

>>725450283
There really aren't things to micromanage except for trade which I really hope no one does because you just click the automate button and your traders pick the best deals themselves.

>>725450476
Sure thing Vlodymyr.

>>725448623
>shitposting when having no argument
He is right in that a forced worker is always worse than a willing one. We see that now where people have little choice but to work for pennies, and actively do a shit job. Those passionate about their work enriched their field.

>>725449608
Get them to fuck more.

>>725449738
Father...is it over?

>>725448759
Crown power is good but without giving privileges to estates I can’t find a way to keep their satisfaction high so I can tax their asses without them rebelling

>>725435551 (OP)
> you are now aware that medieval slavery is modern AI and robotics
> Slaves were just machines with the same biology as humans

Puts everything into perspective.

>>725450904
Get strong, get high stability and nuke them and prepare for the (easy) rebellion.

>>725450904
I gave a lot to my burghers and I am reaping the benefits, both in taxes and trade.

what comfy HRE, preferably german nation to play?
Or anyone to play more tall and calm that's not netherlands

>>725451324
>that's not netherlands

>>725451471
dutch people are icky

>>725436990
Pretty much every race has been enslaved at one point or another, nopthing strange about that

I don't know what people were talking about the AI not expanding when France in my game is blobbing all over Europe and could probably fight the entirety of Europe at once. They need to tone France down somehow because what the fuck they're so much stronger than everyone else
Also, good to finally get in a game where the Ottomans are actually doing something because most of the time they seem to fail

>>725450578
One of the standard complaints seems to be automation fucking up and having to deal with it manually anyway.

>>725451684
Works fine for me, 1492.

>>725451675
It seems France is the only exception because it's so retardedly fucking strong.
As soon as the Age or Discovery hits I guarantee it will be 4/5 of the Hegemons.

Damn, pretty brutal. Your king or heir dies. Sort of with was an event that triggered a civil war instead of a kill or be killed option.

>>725451946
Oh well there sort of is one after it but I need one before too
Mods for this are going to be so fucking good

>>725451675
>They need to tone France down somehow
The AI needs to make coalitions against them . I'm playing England right now and the triple alliance of England, Aragon, and Castile has to intervene and rape them every 5-10 years or they'll start eating shit. DO IT AGAIN BLACK PRINCE

>>725450548
>just no tax income
Yeah that's the problem

>Abdicate takes 100 prestige and you can't go negative
fuck

>>725443960
The other way around, slavs is their endonym, they were just common on late first millenium markets so much their name displaced the other terms such as servus
Btw the sellers were typically other slavs too, with prague being one of premier slave markets of europe, because who else would hate slavs more than other slavs

>>725443295
Whatever the Bible says.

>>725452590
So, Orthodox.

>>725443295
Reformed.

>Mutig also der böse Wille
>Fliehen vor die heiße Hölle
>Luzifer ist bös' Geselle
>Luzifer ist bös' Geselle
>GESELLE

>>725447504
>And EU4 still straight ignores game mechanics like forts anyway.
Zone of control still doesn't work in EU5

My borders have gotten smaller since I started

>>725448927
Do folk religions have any special mechanics?
Also can you change to hellinism as byzzies? I saw an event that spawns hellenic frenchman and says there are events tied to him but it was only one that fired

>>725436990
Yeah, we wuz

>>725453305
Yes
Norse Paganism is OP

>>725436696
You realise the real reason the US freed their slaves in the 1800s was so that they could get workers for their factories, right?

>>725443295
Early heretic with admin focus in the age of renaissance for easy expansion in early game

>>725443295
The pope is right next to me i don’t think he’d be happy if I swapped

>>725436990
>American education
I say this as an American. For any zoomies lurking, in school when the slave trade gets brought up start citing Eastern European countries getting enslaved well before the Africans en masse. Makes things fun.

>>725451675
Johan cranked up the AI aggression like a day or two ago, they’ve been plenty aggressive in my recent game

>>725452590
So, protestant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3wmOBtiHkM
DAMN what a banger

>>725436990
google barbary pirates

>>725453527
>>725453638

>>725436990
I was a slave and stuff

>>725453638
>14th century Florence had about as many slaves as free citizens
>hint: the slaves (slavs) weren't African

>>725453305
I've only tried Romuvan with Lithuania though I think it's the same with all pagan religions having access to "deities" that you can select getting a nice bonus while they are chosen. Things like +10% army morale, 5% army discipline, pop growth speed, trade efficiency, etc. Which are pretty nice bonus to be able to have active depending on what you're about to do.

Though the big thing with pagan nations seems to be that you can take and keep slaves easily. Since they all appear to have the ability to take slaves from a province whenever they occupy it.

so do I ban gold export as bohemai or not? I honestly don't know what do I want with it

>>725454025
Nah get rich with exports

How many Christian heresies are in the game? I see Cathar early game and the reformation spawns Lutheran and Calvinism

>>725454025
You probably shouldn’t. Large influx of precious metals pumps up inflation big time so it limits your minting.

>>725454261
Go to religion tab, take out the "present in country" filter and add heresy only filter.

>>725454381
Zamn, though I wonder how many of these can actually reappear as many of them are pretty medieval era heresies

>>725435551 (OP)
>tech for poland that gives you inquisition law for +1 to culture limit
>you have to have jews in your country
>all jews were assimilated by that point
Yeah it’s “based” and “redpilled” but if paradox is going for realism then they should add some special rules for jewish cultures so they don’t cease to exist 10 years into the game

Is playing as Japan any good

>>725435551 (OP)
Is it worth pirating?

>>725449608
Food surplus, the more food is in your storage the more people fuck.

>>725455193
Sure if you consider it interesting at all.
For a paradox launch it is in a surprisingly playable state.
Hardware requirements are somewhat steep but at least the game size isn't huge.

>>725455575
That doesn't sound too bad, my major gripe is that I'm probably not with enough patience to learn the game's complexity right now

>>725455167
apparently hard and not really

>>725451675
>>725452014
The big problem with France are all of its vassals.
There are no options for England to force them to be neutral in the HYW, or even supporting the english. Both of which happened IRL.
And france doesn't care about liberty desire of its subjects. I've run multiple vassals to 100% liberty desire, force religion to go cathar, and it didn't matter for my wars against England.

>>725455694
Very fair.
It is better with its tutorial and automation but can still be a time investment if you actually want to understand what's going on.

>>725435551 (OP)
Playing as hussite Bohemia is pain. There is literally zero benefit. Force conversion doesn’t work because enemy countries just instantly flip back to catholicism and most likely get a hidden buff to conversion
I saw fully husite bavaria convert everyone in their country back in 2 years

>>725455938
I think that's an AI issue.
They see that their nation is mostly catholic so they swap back to it.
Also why ottomans tend to go orthodox after conquering constantinople.

Should I move my capital to the coast as Morocco?

>>725456508
>Also why ottomans tend to go orthodox after conquering constantinople
I was wondering if my playthrough was just being wacky

>>725456508
That’s the thing, they were fully hussite. I converted almost everyone in HRE and they just kept flipping back. Surprisingly Poland and italian states stayed hussite.
Maybe it’s a german thing to ensure reformation spawing

>>725449048
Annex when you can build roads there, earlier if you can make it a core. Build temple in a city, etc.

FUG
:D
XD

>>725449608
Like Imperator, the more food you have stored, compared to monthly consumption, increases pop growth. Notably this increases for the whole province, while only the city or town needs to have the granaries. Caps at 120 months.

>>725457093
These niggas and the de Medici would make a Rothschild shit their pants

>>725457093
OH FUG :DDDD :----DDDDD

>>725451172
>I gave a lot to my burghers
I feel like this might be meta

>>725451172
How does giving Burgers more power make them produce more money? I mean literally, do they make their own infrastructure? If so, how?

>>725457093
wtf... fug is a jew?!

>>725457217
They have their own trade capacity. Alas, the game doesn't really let you see how they use it.

>>725457217
Give them road and building rights in their privledges

I have played 110 years and think I'm just going to restart now with everything I have learned so far. I made SO many mistakes, it's really funny when you realize it

>at 51% burgher power

Uhhh is there coup potential I should worry about? I’m already a republic

>>725457413
Play until the end you fucking pussy
Minmaxing is cringe

>>725457281
Gave them road rights and they dont use them, but building rights doesnt list 'Burgers can build now'

is traditional economy shit? I feel like it's an early game trap from the sound of it

>142 stability cost to remove nobility priviledges
>the one privilege that I don't care about and would like to remove actually gives them the least influence
how do I deal with this conundrum? should I remove a decent one just to lower their influence? is there any way to make the stability cost significantly smaller?

>>725451172
>>725457191
>I gave a lot to my burghers
KNEEL

>>725457496
decrease their power, raise crown power, tech

>>725457496
Make their influence lower by not giving them positions in the cabinet and don't assign them as general&admirals

>>725457459
traditional economy - better if you've got a lot of RGOs and valuable raw resources
capital economy- better if you're more urbanized and more of your income is based on produce you make in your cities
is what it seems to me

>>725457459
It's good early on. As you get more urbanized, you want to switch to capital economy.

>>725457605
idk dawg I'm playing as the glorious Tsardom and I built up all the RGOs, now all the raw goods are dirt cheap since the cities can't handle the production and trade capacity is too low

>>725457534
>+5
Oh shit I thought there was a max, I know what I’m doing now

I wonder, is releasing a historical country vs a custom one as a vassal in any way better? especially if it's a small country, that I assume has no or very little unique events

>>725457664
Literally how Russia functions irl

>>725457534
>literally burger stand

>>725457443
If you're a republic then why are you worried about a middle class coup

>>725457969
I swear you could have a plutocratic coup in EU4 while being a republic

>>725457043
Were they fully hussite or were all of their pops fully hussite?
And were any of them in PUs?
Captcha:
>SAA4R
Fugg:DDDD

How can I unlock the autocratic parliament?

I don't see anything like an inland sea bonus for the Galleys in this game. Are they at all more effective in the mediterranean than Heavy Ships?

Imagine the Game of Thrones mod

>>725458548
Imagine all the fantasy mods with racial modifiers for the pops. Or the same for all the racist mods

>>725458606
You can already have a slave empire and discriminate against cultures you don't like

>>725453638
That is a well known thing to anyone who isn't a moron. Regardless of age.

Apparently another patch is coming lather this week or the next to fix the problem of rebellions forming because your peasants FUCKING NEED to have rice and other dumb shit to be happy even though they live in the middle of Scandinavia or Scotland or wherever and would have never even seen rice at the time let alone be wanting to kill themselves over it not being imported to feed them.

>>725453638
Damn its almost like the African slave trade is way more relevant to American history than a bunch of Europeans enslaving each other or something

>>725458606
I wonder how Anbennar is gonna work race into the game. Wouldn’t be shocked if they just shrug their shoulders and get rid of it for just culture with some modifiers

>>725435852
It's profitable to sell but the buyer is filling their country with niggers

>>725436696
cruelty and poverty are an economic overhead believe it or not
human brains are too advanced to be used for menial tasks past a certain tech threshold, which was already the case in the 1800s, but again cruelty was the point in and of itself (selling the american dream small government homestead bullshit)

Why cant I go over 40g/month? I keep expanding but nothing goes up

Will loans be automatically paid after they run out or is it always a good idea to pay them instantly?

>>725458667
That's not the same.
The game allows different pops to have modifiers, for mods. So you can make races better at mining, less literate, more rebellious etc.

>>725459282
Do you take them as your own country or vassals / fiefdoms?

>>725458512
Hover over the unit type

>>725458774
Sadly a possibility.
Early anbennar would have made race specific modifiers but they have been quite bland since Rahen.

>>725459510
I meant expanding as in going tall, Ive invested 15k into RGOs/Buildings for 0 income

>>725459583
Are they all fully employed? Did you build buildings that need resources from the RGOs you expanded?

>>725459539
Ah, thanks
too bad it doesn't actually say what does it increase by this 25%. Is it just +25% for each battle statistic? For logistics?

>>725439363
dont be a chud incel

>>725459583
Your buildings are not immediately staffed when you make them
Control level of a location affects how many taxes you can get from pops there

>>725459760
I would assume purely damage

>>725459824
Also how much shit you get from RGOs

>>725459661
>>725459824
>>Your buildings are not immediately staffed when you make them
I did this ages ago, they're fully staffed now. They're still not making more money even in the capital

>>725459951
Do you have enough market capacity? I am still not completely sure how it works but I think you won't get money from it otherwise, beacuse you can't sell it

>>725459583
maybe you've oversaturated the market with raw goods to the point they've dropped in price? Or you don't have the market capacity to export them all?

>>725436990
we wuz slaves and shit to dem ottoman turks, dey stole ar kids and made em muslim and gay
I ain't bullshitting you, dem turks wer fairies, boy ass lusting fairies like them greeks were
ate em greeks think they better than us balkan slavs coz Plate-o invented plates or wadeva
yea we wuz slaves for 500 years to them turks muslims, they made us pay taxes n shit
also serbs are turks and makedonians are monkeys,
levski bless

>>725436990
whites wuz slaves you ignorant baboon

>>725447941
misinformation

>>725459951
Are you trading them
What buildings do you have using your RGOs as raw materials
Are those buildings staffed
Did you flood your market with materials and crash the price

>>725459951
And did you increase the need for the goods? Just flooding the market with goods doesn't help you much.
You either need to increase internall demand or trade capacity to send it to other markets that have demand.

>>725460035
Im spamming markets whenever I can but they do nothing ultimately, everything keeps hovering 40

>>725460180
>>725460143
Only thing in demand now are raw goods I cant make, Im assuming because I flooded everything. And all the places producing fish are outside my main market where its in demand, and auto trade doesn't seem to do anything. No one needs compound goods it seems, only raw materials.

>>725448527
the fuck is a labor shortage

I see what's happening, due to the dynamic nature of storage, if my guys need rice, I satisfy the need, then they get a storage of it, they will stop trading it in automatically and eventually will spend it all, requiring me to manually import rice
again
and again
and again
and again
and again
and again
and again

is letting burgers have control of monetary policy worth it?
does the minting do more for the tresury than the 10% of taxes would?

>>725443960
Only southern ones and those are only slavic by language, not genetics.

>>725460391
What about manufactured goods?
Classic example is building libraries to increase the demand for books to make massed scriptorums profitable.

So every other Paradox game is obsolete from this, right?

>>725460610
I think Victoria 3 and HoI4 have their own strong points, but Victoria 3 lacks content.

>>725460610
Almost feels like it.
Jokes aside I think with some mods you might be able to get a good Victorian era experience.

>capitalmaxxing
>earthquake
JOHAAAAAN

>>725460561
>>Classic example is building libraries to increase the demand for books to make massed scriptorums profitable
I did exactly so, but they don't make money.

>>725460767
Naples, my beloved...

>>725459864
It tells you. Default is 1 unit per 1000 laborers

>>725460823
You're doing something wrong then.

>>725460685
Victoria 3 should die. It's shit game with stillborn systems.

>tax nobles
>nobles get mad
>revolt
>kill them all easily
>new nobles arrive, do the same
age of absolutism cant come soon enough

>>725460823
What is your control in those areas and how much can you tax your estates?

>>725461075
>killing your tax base

>burgerijs ask me to change a law which would make them less happy
lmao retards

>>725436990
I glad paradox don't tried to cover fact that islamist enslaved hundred thousands of europeans though history.

>>725460767
The volcano in Naples took out by army and navy as well as nuking all my marketplaces

fuck's Poppolopodopolus gonna do?
good luck with the ottomans, fucker

>>725461078
He doesn't know he hasn't answered any questions that actually go into his economy
Probably an esl third worlder

>>725457191
Total nobility/clergy death

>start as bohemia
>teutons instead of calling me into their war has just broke the alliance
ok then, fuck you too

>>725460935
>>725461078
I was building by the capital ergo 100-60 in those places, I think it may be automated taxation. If you keep pissing off nobles by focusing on the people, nobles get more mad, so the autotaxer seems to reduce taxes to improve their opinion leading to a loop
I also just discovered you can upgrade rural settlements to Towns, will see if this helps

>>725461597
As long as you're important pop needs your estates will generally stay happy. Tax as much as you can

>>725436990
amerimoment

>>725461680
importing*

got the bug where your navy units take attrition even though you have the buildings/techs that prevent it
it happens if you save a game during winter time and load back in
epic!!
youd think theyd fix some more bugs before releasing this unfinished game, but hey, thats what the DLC is for

>>725461597
Yup, its both of those I listed. You can have 5 towns next to your capital + you can tax nobles/burgers independent of opinion, automate is bait

>>725458768
>its almost like the African slave trade is way more relevant to American history
Americans do care only about niggers, yes

>>725435551 (OP)
I can't wait to buy this game once total conversion mods come out only for them to remove every slave mechanic from the game.

>>725435551 (OP)
I thought you couldn't even have Deus Vult or anything christian related in these games

what happened?

>>725461075
They're so bad because they only rise up with nobles lol they should rise up with half the levies

>>725461839
Wow you mean 4chan lied and overreacted about something?

>>725436990
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cMXNJ3zkSiE

>Inland exploration is bugged
I should've saved my muscovy playthrough for later..

Is it worth building RGOs outside of your main province?

>>725462141
your buildings in main province might want resources

>>725461974
I don't believe it.
/v/ would never.

What's the point of cities?

>>725462141
yes, iirc control is different from market access, so those goods can still go to the market even if you have low control

This game cheats in a subtle way:
If you are above X% (middle) parliment support, or estate opinion, it seems to favor more harmful events
If below, it favors more positive events

>>725440142
Bro literally all white countries are enslaved by like 3 and a half kikes

>>725462359
So when I make wool is that profit displayed from the market or the province?

>>725443960
small brain moment

>>725462395
Not the own you think it is mohammed

>>725462424
Pretty sure profit is a province thing but the market acess means other buildings and pops cn make use of it and thus still create profit/happiness.

>>725460882
No nigger. Control affects how much you get from RGO is what I meant

>>725461998
Same.

>>725461998
Just steal the maps dumbass

>>725462378
>If below, it favors more positive events
If below it has a chance to spawn the burger building or lose a ton of burger satisfaction. Not what I'd call a positive event.

>>725462424
Potential both

Your pops will use your raw materials giving you a basic tax base but you can (and should) sell excess on the market and/or use it to manufacture goods to export

What is a comfy OPM to play

>>725463006
Holland
Yes its two provinces but play them anyway

>bohemia can get poland PU CB at start
>while they have a truce for a year longer
literally what's the purpose of that
also their diplo capacity really annoys me

>>725463174
Just truce break what's the worst that could happen

>>725443960
Urban myth. Slavic descends from “Slava”, which means pride.

>>725436990
mudslimes did this to my ancestors

>>725443960
I thought they were the enslavers

>>725458224
Not all of german states, obviously. But my immediate neighbours had all of their pops as hussite. They stayed hussite for longest but still converted after some time
I don’t believe any of them had pu

>>725463565
Slava = Glory

>>725463097
>Holland
>neighbouring the BBB
>comfy
Anon wtf?

>>725461571
Funniest shit ever. When playing as Bohemia everyone broke off their alliances with me for some reason and then proceeded to fight someone much stronger than them
Probably went beyond dip limit with vassals

>>725463873
That is concerning.
PUs can force it because the senior partner can enforce his religion trough the succession laws but if nations flip despite having majority there is an actual issue.

I don't quite understand how does estate specific trade capacity work. When would pic rel be worth it?

>>725464131
Your burghers decide what is traded instead of you

>>725463565
Slovo aka word/speech, the most common torture of the monkey mind

>>725464074
As I said, it’s probably because game needs catholic german states for reformation. Every italian state and Poland stayed hussite after force conversion. Poland staying hussite is doubly funny because only Krakow was hussite 20 years after conversion and most of their pops revolted
Not sure why every single one of them converts though.

>>725459742
ABC's are broken, because armies just run away, instead of getting wiped, so these army countries don't break.

>>725464224
Will you still get direct trade income from that or only the tax?

>>725465562
Good question, I'd like to know the answer too

>>725464131
Idk if this was good or bad an event gave me the chance to revoke it so i did, income didn't change but im playing merchant republic so trade gives me +25% income

>>725464870
>Some armies flee if it looks like they could lose immediately
>Some armies march face first into you with half the numbers in an attempt to break the siege
??? Are castle troops sortying out or something?

Once you use spy to remove fog id wager ai allies are far dumber than enemy ai. They just can't decide if they want to siege or battle or just chase

Why does the game tell me that units will be hidden in the fog of war if the AI always knows where your shit is anyways.
Why can I still get cucked waiting for a 34% siege tick while the 5 years of effort gets undone instantly only now its even worse because supply lines exist.
Why hasn't paradox been burned to the ground yet.

>>725460061
>>725460035
I am here to report that the 'Upgrade Rural to Towns next to capital' -> build shit in them (market, library, temple mostly + RGO) works. Im now at 100 income 20ish years later
Now I double checked and Im actually the highest income country in Europa, even if not the 'richest country'

Any Brandenburg gamers? At what point it would make sense to make my own market?

>>725463960
If you improve relations to France they never go for you. t. colonizing Americas as Netherlands.

>LUZIFER IST BÖS GESELLE GESELLE
LETS GOOOOOOO

>>725468321
Why didn't I think of building towns myself? Will try

>>725468789
because the icon is tiny and tucked away + you cant click on an identical looking icon (barring a different outline) to do the same action

>>725468321
what's the adventage of having multiple towns there vs just building everything in the capital itself? as long as you have building slots of course

>>725468924
Building speed I'd assume

So many times I have put someone into my cabinet and he just randomly leaves immediately. Is this a bug?

>4000 gold to hire one character with random stats
Jesus I just need some people for the cabinet where am I supposed to get more

>>725468924
More markets, more armories more any 1/1 buildings

>>725468924
cant build unlimited buildings in the capital. you want to be building a few specific buildings, a lot of them, concentrated in towns next to the capital.
And you obviously always want to have room to keep promoting Burgirs

>>725469228
That means his permanent residence is in another country and he just visits your country sometimes for whatever reason. Happens when I make a vassal and put my dudes in charge of it. Sometimes they come to my capital but most of the time they're in their own capital. And they can only be employed when they're in your court

>>725469228
Ohhhhh this time I see why. My duke died and he was his son so now he can't be in the cabinet.
Only problem is though, I paid gold to get him in, then he leaves, time passes again and only THEN the game tells me my duke dies

>>725469387
Maybe it was also this and my duke just died coincidentally. Because yeah that wasn't the first time. But this is so stupid, it should tell you when this could potentially happen because you still pay full price

Holy shit my son is a genius

Slavery is bad because slaves don't pay taxes

>>725469532
>>>62

>>725469532
Incel

my incel pops refuse to have sex

>>725469691
They're literally me

>>725469535
Taxes are bad, the slaves are better off cultivating sugar cane and cotton.

what would happen if I turned pic rel into a town? would it just staright up delete half of the RGOs, since I'd lose the +100% capacity rural bonus, or would I get to keep the ones already built?

>>725448623
obsessed

I just want an EU that lets you play on completely fictional planets with randomized continents and simulated pre-game-start histories.

Or even a Martian mode.

Pool's closed

>>725470257
well you could have an entirely fictional world in EU4, with random custom countries only
but yeah, I get it, different lands, randomized religion and institution placement etc, could be interesting

>want to play burgundy
>can't as france will never get weaker so I could do anything

Shattered Empire mod when

>>725469231
Society > People > Characters.
Depending on some shit, you may be able to appoint women to your cabinet or enoble some guys.
A bit of warning, you can't use some people (mercenaries for example) in your cabinet

>>725470382
antagonism status?

>>725470382
This is dumb, somehow France is more overpowered than in 4.

>>725435551 (OP)
>>725435679
>>725435852
>feed, clothe and house several dozen literal retards to work your plantation, sold to you by their warlords BECAUSE they're dregs
hurp durp what could pawsibly go wrong??
>>725436990
Every single race has been enslaved at some point.

>>725438771
get an ai wife pregnant with 73 kids so you can roleplay modern Albania

>Hussite revolt triggers.
>Not an actual revolt, bohemia just turns hussite.
And now the fucking pope wants me to fight 80.000 bohemians?

>>725471386
Zero lmao, Poland and Hungary are natural unions
PUs also count as separate countries for Antagonism purposes so I can just force feed my conquests into junior partners with no consequences
Well there is a consequence, my heir had 4 daughters and I had to murder his wife to get a new one that could actually make him a son

>>725471451
Not a France thing, the dynastic aspect of the game is really broken in general, it's like CK but on steroids
You hunt for female heirs with the main heir, and for some reason the side kids' marriages produce Claim Throne CBs which then end up in your king (and main heir)'s hands

people just don't want to work...

It feels ahistorical to have to blob with vassals in the first 200 years.

>>725472998
Build slaver buildings and you'll find the problem solves itself.

>hungarian motherfuckers transfer croatian provinces to me but refuse to transfer italian ones
So the AI is literally dumber than EU4. Nice.

>he's not playing a military order and requesting infitine funds

it's just passed the 1400's and i'm already at 70k ducats from begging alone.

>>725470141
I'm inclined to say yes. I checked on location where I'm certain I had 5/5 levels of mine and now it has 3/3 since I made it into a town

>>725470257
So like stellaris but its on a single planet instead. What would the name be, Planetaris?

>>725468383
Not a branderburg gamer but i think the most important is to have enough food in your new market so people don't instantly die to starvation or you go bankrupt from only buying food.

>>725471140
Oh nice

>>725472416
>Well there is a consequence, my heir had 4 daughters and I had to murder his wife to get a new one that could actually make him a son
I thought you were France not England

Oh shit I get it now, if you do rival humiliation you can set much less conditions after the war than if you had used parliament

>>725474964
It's like 3 tooltips deep but each CB has a different warscore and antagonism modifier

Among Paradox games, I've only had experience playing Crusader Kings 2 and 3. What assumptions should I completely drop when playing this game so I don't fuck myself over?

>>725475240
Manual trade is too hard for you

>>725475240
This is a completely different game, it doesn't even have much in common with EU4. Basically, coming from CK3 you should know that your ruler and dynasty aren't NEARLY as important as in CK3 (they're just stat bonuses) and that the economy is vastly more complex.

fuck, the hussite wars are ROUGH
why didn't the pope get almost any allies other than me and my vassals?
are there any additional penalties if I just opt out and they lose?

>run game with Proton
>CPU fans: **WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZ**
Thanks for not making a native Linux client, Paradox. Appreciate it.

so whats the gameplan for byz?
how do I unfuck that shithole before the turks come knocking?

>>725475734
Idk my first 100 years I felt like I was playing CK, with the levy raising, and fishing for marriages and building up.

How is this? I've only played HOI

>>725457449
I have never played till the end in 3k hours of EU4 and that's not gonna change.

New 5x speed is like twice as fast goddamn

>>725474440
but can knights make latin empire?

>>725476245
This leans more into economic and demographic autism than HOI's military autism

I would like one cute child slave to play videogames with.

WTF why won't they accept??

>>725476821
at +9 now, is this a bug?

>>725476821
gee idk maybe hover over it?

>>725476883
Yeah it just says the usual stuff
>positive reasons must be +1 more than negative. Which they are

>>725468789
You can also get a burgher issue for parilament to get a town for free so you can save a bunch of ducats. it's called urbanization something.

>>725443295
Catholic

>>725476962
if it's not a main target then you must wait a year since start of the war

>>725477097
We are at war for over three years

>>725476614
I'll give it a go

>>725462378
Did you actually look into that, or are you doing the idiot thing of having selective memory based on a tiny sample size?

>>725435551 (OP)
Can you have cunny sex slaves? I was born to late to check those out in SEA and east Asia.

>>725477185
diplomat mana?

>>725476821
I bet it just costs too much to make the peace. You can't have more than 100 total peace cost.

>>725443960
>>725463565
Both of you are wrong and stupid.
The word "slave" DOES come from "slav."
This is incontrovertible. It was because the slavs were the most commonly enslaved people of european antiquity, so slavs would be the default at slave markets. When people wanted to buy a human servant, they would go down to the market and ask about being a slav. So the word came to mean slave.
That slav may have had a different etymology before that is irrelevant. The concept of slavery is named after their mongrel race, full stop.
Second, the slavs didn't name themselves. They were named by the romans and greeks. They were called slavs because the word slovo means "Word" and they all spoke the same language.
Saying the word means "pride" is just stupid historical revisionism. That part of the world is just full of wannabe authoritarian retards, so they see no issue with rewriting history itself to portray their people as less worthless and retarded.

>>725477538
forgot pic

>>725436696
Have you seen the state of the US? Niggers have been more destructive to America than either of the Atomic bombs were to Japan.

>>725477626
-64
anon you're not making it any easier

>>725477752
Hm? I just took the pic for the other anon so that he sees where to check the peace cost, I'm not making peace in my game.

>>725477538
Yeah but according to the calculation the game gave me, it would still be acceptable. After reloading though it shows me a different value, so I guess that was what was bugged

>>725477845
my bad I didn't even read the post and instantly opened the image

>>725443295
Hussite.

>>725474892
To beat the Anglo, one must become the Anglo

>>725436696
Elon Musk's neuralink will make slavery profitable again. When a direct brain interface can be used to bodyjack humans, free will becomes a thing of the past.

>>725477598
I used to shove dweebs like you into the lockers when I was in high school

>>725478203
And now you just sit at your computer all day jacking off to AI generated anime porn, sad

>>725478290
stay mad, nerd

>>725477538
Nevermind actually, you mean both the peace cost can't be over 100 AND you have to have a +1 opinion on it? It could really be that this was the issue. But I still don't understand why the opinion score would be different then...
Ah well it's over anyway

>>725477598
>They were named by the romans and greeks
>because the word slovo means "Word"
how do you reconsile these two obviously contradictory statements in your mind?

>>725478473
It was the same in EU4, you cannot take a peace treaty that demands more than 100 warscore, regardless of the other country's opinion.

>>725478481
If I start calling you and your people "faggots" because I've noticed your gay behavior, I'm the one who named you. Retard.
Just because the word was invented by the slavic language doesn't mean they deliberately decided to name themselves with that word. They probably called themselves by individual tribe, same as the native americans did. Since they were too retarded and primitive to have their own word for themselves as a larger group, more advanced people gave them a name.
That the word came from their own language doesn't change the fact that the name for their retarded race was given to them by foreigners. It's literally exactly like if I just started calling you a faggot until you started calling yourself a faggot.

>>725455819
England does have a button, but it costs a ton of (scaled) money. I don't understand why a lot of situations have scaled money, Ottoman Beylik CBs also are scaled, so towards the end it's like 1000 for a CB. No wonder the AI can't use them as they are unaffordable.

I just can't see the appeal of picking the big nations. The whole point of the game is to start small and grow big. Once you're big, the game's basically over.

>>725478846
That's such an utterly retarded and blatantly nonsensical idea, surely you cannot be posting in good faith. Try to cease your misplaced seething and think about what you wrote for 10 seconds.

>>725479076
It's also a pita to manage a big nation

>>725468321
Why library and temples specifically?

>>725479680
Temples add max control, library add literacy

So far I always held parliament in my capital because the options seem to be the same no matter where I do it. Is there any reason why it would matter?

>>725480216
capital increases centralisation while other decentralization, maybe also some other things

>>725480335
>capital increases centralisation
Nice that's exactly what I am improving right now!

>>725479164
99% you're a butthurt slav who doesn't like facing the facts about your culture's meager and shitty spot in the annals of history.

>>725480335
It literally says it in the tooltip when I choose a city... wow I should read more carefully. It also gives the city a buff during the debate
>+1% monthly prosperity
>+1% monthly development
>+5% control maximum
>+10% monthly corntol
Seems like a nice way of quickly increasing control

>>725480802
Makes logical sense. The whole government moves into town for a few months, you bet they are going to make you actually pay taxes to them.

>tfw slowly creeping across the carribean like a cancer
Also Castile lost their island colony vassals after losing to France like 3 times by allying England in hundred year war phases so I'll probably get the entire Caribbean for free lel

>>725482224
Forgot pic

>>725436696
You can't sell anything to slaves.

>more economics and pop management than Vic3
>more fun too

>>725483696
lol enjoy the super plague

>>725483859
No spoilers!

ah yes, the late medieval era, where the monarch of every country had a complete planned economy and decided exactly where to build 100 lumber mills

I think the AI literally doesn't know what terrain is. They just keep charging me on mountains and getting obliterated over and over.

Is it just me or do the Marches seem much worse here? I mean 5% discipline is nice, but that doesn't seem like much compared to the huge boosts you got in EU4

>>725485238
army AI is generally braindead rn, either doesn't know what ships are or forgets that is at war sometimes

>>725485296
Guarantee they just threw some numbers in and didn't give it a second thought.

>>725485560
I'd even take it if it also came with a decrease to the diplo capacity cost and better loyality/liberty desire
but as it is, it doesn't even seem worth researching

How the fuck is the economic system here better than in Vic3?

>>725437373
Oh vey, how antisemitic of you...

>>725485686
There's no real reason to keep vassals long term with no nonsense like gov cap or state limits in this. They're just integration machines you drop and eat later.

>>725448927
How woke is it? Any dumb shit like female warriors?

>>725448759
>>725448492
I gotta say the estates systems is so good
They're VERY annoying to deal with but that's what makes them so realistic/great lol
I'm still around ~1550 and things are getting better but I think I kinda fucked myself giving away way too many privileges. My state will probably remain captured by the aristocracy to the end of the game (unless revolutions are a mechanic that lets you just wipe the slate clean?)

>Start new run as Papal State
>Pope dies of a cold after 3 months
>Get strong French Pope
>Pope dies of natural causes after 6 weeks
>Get pretty good Provence Pope
>Pope dies of a cold after 1 year

Starting to think these deaths aren't as natural as I'm being told!

>>725484285
Literally the first thing you see loading up a new game for the first time is that you play as "the spirit of the nation", not the monarch or his government

>>725486387
I suspect 4 had some secret bonuses to life expectancy for pap due to the popes starting old, and like so many other things didn't consider it here

>aragon allied with portugal, england, morocco
nothing in this fucking game makes any sense

>>725436696
>slavery keeps wages down, meaning it keeps most of the population poor
>slavery blocks innovation - why invent a new machine to improve work efficiency, if its cheapre to buy more dudes?
>slavery makes people accept cruelty towards other people, which produces a sadistic culture
>slavery makes it seem more normal and reasonable for the rich to oppress and enslave the poor, literally or figuratively
>masters are always worried and panicing about slave revolts, creating a paranoia and security overreaction that harms everyone involved materially or mentally
>slaves still have to eat, but cant buy homes or nice stuff, which skews the economy and prices a certain way
etc, etc

slavery bad

>>725486651
the ais have no direction whatsoever, everything they do is random unless it's railroaded via event

So what am I supposed to do with colonies aside from just blobbing with them? Do I build stuff in them? Also how does colonizing for trade in Asia work?

how does this game run can a toaster run it?

>>725486778
if you can run victoria 3, you can run this

Those fuckers left it in

>>725435551 (OP)
Did they add the new superspeed mode as a bandaid fix for how nothing in the game happens until 1400? Because holy shit even the AI knows that the game starts way too early, it's basically turned off until you're around the EU4 starting date.

>Ghana has more institutions embraced than eastern europe
Fucking paradox and their wakanda bullshit

>>725486735
The AI has to cheat at war or something, because it's always taking land in Granada, not getting rebellions, and making ridiculous alliance webs just to fuck the player, even with max relations and no rivalries.

>>725486869
It was literally the first random event I got even starting the game. It felt great

>>725486954
In my experience they just play too safe to ever have anything bad happen. Anything they conquer they spit back out as a vassal and they only conquer something once every decade or so. But if they ever do piss off their estates or go bankrupt or something it's colossal rebellions that start with 80% of the country occupied ck2 style so they just get rolled over instantly because they have no levies to call on.

>>725487413
Yeah the biggest weapon against a potential rebellion is having an army stand on the angry locations, but the AI will never do that, because the suppress rebels automation button just doesn't work

How does sea trade work? Does it just happen automatically once I have a port or do I need to build something? I don't see trade ships in the ship building menu.

>>725486926
No it's because the community found the setting in debug mode and wanted it available in Ironman/with achievements. Most EUV YouTubers were also showing it.
Besides, speed 5 is supposed to drop frames and just tick fast.

>>725487604
>Besides, speed 5 is supposed to drop frames and just tick fast.
That's not how EU4 worked.

>>725487586
I actually just discovered as a player that that army objective existed yesterday. I figured the cabinet action was the replacement. Both work great together, as the army removes pops from being rebellious, and the cabinet removes the sentiment.

>>725487586
Reminder that armies also increase control.

>>725487762
>>725487586
Wait so standing armies are actually useful early on?

>>725487589
There is just trade. The fastest route is picked automatically when you set up a trade whether that's land or sea (usually sea is faster).
Light ships are basically trade ships. You set them on patrol to increase maritime presence in your seazones.

watching content creators it seems they just get casus belli and then walk in a weak force and take over everything around them with no push back. doesnt seem to matter what country you are lol

>>725487835
Not really because they're too small and too expensive. You still want a token unit asap to keep your ruler/heir a general on since it gives crown power.

>>725487880
I see, ty.

>>725487835
Usually that won't be enough. You can just declare a war raise your levies and stand on the naughty provinces. Well locations not provinces. The satisfaction bonus for army in province is way too low, and the bonus for army in location is huge

>>725487662
It does work exactly like that. You just likely didn't notice if you started post 2018 as GPUs can mostly keep up, but it still happens now if you have one of the newer X3Ds and are playing at 4k. But you also are going like 3 days a second at that point.

>>725487923
yup that will happen when you watch them play england, france, castile, ottomans, hungary bohemia, denmark, poland, naples, byz, muscovy
you didn't play the game if you played these countries.

>>725488035
Here's a hint, don't play on fucking 4K, the game wasn't even made for that. I played on a 2017 mid tier PC and I had maybe 6-7 second month ticks

>>725486117
If you change to republic all privileges go away.

>>725488428
ironman slows it down usually on april 1st or on any important even war start, war conclusion

>>725488669
I uninstalled it but no it doesn't. I played 7k hours I know what the game feels like. Silky smooth.

>>725486117
nah instead of tradeoffs, 90% of them are shit and 10% that are good are concentrated in the burghers. free roads, market attraction, trade capacity,

>>725488823
That's only because paradox in their retarded vision don't have equilibrium for national values, and just let you have 100 centralization just from events even if you only have a grand total of +0.20 into centralization, for example.

>>725488720
why would I lie? my PC isn't up to spec anymore but off ironman I'd don't get 2-3 second stop time on april 1st. It doesn't bother me

>>725485296
if you are vassal swarming another type of subject is always nice since their liberty desire penalty is counted separately for each type

>>725488925
I get that some starting ones should be shit or some forced on you, but free choice to take them only burghers have good ones.
youre never in such a shit a situation that you need to give an estate a privilege. If it cleared all rebellion and half of them gave 50-100% more benefit it might be ok

>>725489019
Eu4 autosaves on january not april what are you on about

Debug mode crashed a fucking ton and I'm tired of month end ticks taking 5 seconds.

>>725490310
I'm telling you my truth jan 1st has no effect. im 150 years in

>>725490512
There's no difference between april or any other month. Ironman autosaves every january. It also doesn't autosave with wars or anything else like that, it's just one per year. This is for eu4 not 5.

>>725490819
ok fine I guess my PC just takes a shit on april 1st because maybe food calculations from winter to summer

>>725488376
>you didn't play the game if you played any of the countries that defined the period
Yeah that makes sense.

>>725490939
Again I'm talking about 4 you chimpanzee. 5 is obviously different.

>mfw I learn that the population of France at the start of the game should be 20m and not 6m but Paradox chose to nerf it
Imagine a 20m pop France, game would be over before it started

>>725490946
>these countries defined the period
>they are conquering provinces very easily
listen to yourself, its literally intended except byz who might have the most guides on youtube.
your difficulty is decided by what nation you pick, always been the case.
I couldn't imagine playing a meta nation, give me a mid nation to learn the game.

Well isn't that nice?

>>725491714
>meta
Man I always play mid nations in every paradox game, I can't help but to choose shitty minors for more challenge, but playing england or poland in this time period being deemed as 'not actually playing the game' doesn't seem right. The game period is functionally about them and their impact on history. Optimally, Paradox would craft a game where those nations still felt appropriately challenging to play because of challenges specific to them, like a player england being kept in check by france and spain and whatever other major power crops up.

>>725492041
It took me too long staring at this pic to get it.

>>725487993
I tried that and Morocco annexed the rebellious location and it canceled the war despite levies standing on it.

>>725435852
>>725436696
Slavery became outdated because wage slavery is far more efficient. That's literally the reason.

>>725492570
So, slavery with extra steps.
Sounds about right.

>>725453196
Tfw

>>725453196
Sounds like a medical issue.

>>725491397
And England still managed to fuck them up in first stages of hew

>play as Sweden
>tell danes to fuck off
>colonize binland and karelia
>go south to massacre hundreds of thousands of g*rms (not even Mongols razed cities as hard as the Swedes did)
>go back to being comfy and gear up to physically remove Muscovites
feels good
this game has unironically better simulation than vicky3

>>725493305
It's a lot closer to vicky 2 than to EU4.

>>725493464
Honestly its probably more vic 2 than 3 is.

>>725493664
That too.

>>725493664
Vicky 3 was a complete disaster and nothing short of literally remaking the game from the ground up can salvage it

The only gameplay footage I have ever seen of EU was people in a multiplayer match, doing a bunch of really fast menuing and I understood absolutely nothing.

>>725494035
EUV is very different from the other EU titles

>>725493664
>>725493464
many people are saying this
>>725493828
for the life of me I can't understand how people can enjoy just building the exact same crap for meme construction capacity. the inevitable vicky mod for eu5 is going to be a million times better than actually vicky 3.

>>725493828
Can't believe they haven't axed it yet.

>>725494183
>the inevitable vicky mod for eu5 is going to be a million times better than actually vicky 3
this x1000
it's hilarious

>>725493305
sweden has so many rebellions as novogrod its funny. and it takes a decade because binland is always the heart of it

>>725493682
>>725493828
Wish they kept more of EUIV's dna, but the fact that they flunked Vic 3 bad enough to go out of their way to essentially make one of their other games Vic 2.5 is pretty funny. Like the other anon said, the total conversion to victoria time period will probably blow Vic 3 out of the water.

>>725494404
AI seems to be unable to manage itself well, because quite a lot of countries explode into rebels every couple years
also they really need to just remove the "Ask for money" button, it feels like straight up cheating

>>725494428
>EUIV's dna
a boardgame?

>>725494623
>also they really need to just remove the "Ask for money" button, it feels like straight up cheating
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that lol. Countries will literally give you their entire treasure every 10 years.

>>725494183
Half sure they made the game into Renaissance era Vicky just so it could serve as the platform for the inevitable 'Vic 3 Redux' total conversion.

>>725494731
>boardgame
settlers of catan goes hard

>>725494731
Isn't that all Paradox games?

>>725494428
They definitely just wanted to re-use all the existing framework instead of making a new game. Paradox does nothing but cannibalize systems from game to game, you see it constantly if you play all of them. Their most recent attempt was putting the vehicle tech from hoi4 into stellaris for new tiers of ship hulls but apparently they're scrapping it because it sucks.

>>725485296
Levies are -10% discipline by default so this is good

>>725495480
Wish they had put some of Vicky 2's DNA in the direct fucking sequel, instead of whatever the fuck Vicky 3 was.

>>725436990
DAS RITE

>>725495643
2 is probably much too old to just lift code like that, they're doing it out of laziness not because their old ideas were better

>>725495480
>scrapping it because it sucks
Everything I hear about Stellaris lately implies they should scrap the whole thing and start fresh with a sequel. Can't wait to see them put RGO's and CK3 dynasty management in space. Maybe add HoI4 focus trees while they are at it, probably can't hurt at this point.

>>725495720
They managed to put its mechanics into EUV, so obviously there was some way of salvaging them.

>>725436696
They have to be fed and given shelter.
Shelter probably being the most expensive bit, even if it’s a doghouse of an abode.
They have to be treated by physicians whenever injured, you pay the med bills.
If permanently crippled they can become quite the burden/financial loss assuming killing them is considered manslaughter under the law.
Then there’s the constant mind games where you have to check if they’re shirking work or worse, planning a revolt.

>>725436990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imaip5vV-Iw

>>725495783
yeah I'm saying they ripped it out of v3 because it was their latest game with the engine, not because it was better

I enabled mission trees because I wanted to see what they were like, and holy fuck, it's the least intuitive tutorial system ever. This won't be helping any newbie ever, doesn't help that they're disabled by default and the option to enable them is borderline hidden.

>>725495892
It's Paradox tradition to make completely unintelligible tutorials that teach you nothing. Just watch, it'll never be updated post-release and end up turning into a sort of anti-tutorial in a few years.

>>725444743
>Religion is basically washing your hands often, being polite, and respecting nature.
Light years ahead of anyone else, even still to this day.

>>725460487
Probably more the inability for the state to mobilize workers for most kinds of industry or to make peasants to become wage workers.

>>725447941
Fun fact, the ottoman/arabs enslaved more africans than the entire west by an order of magnitude but never had a residual population because they made them all eunuchs.
This is what characters like Grey Worm are based on in game of thrones.

>>725496329
The Ottomans didn't really do it, it was more of an Arab thing. They did it in Yemen even before Islam, I believe

>>725495892
>no unique mission trees with flavor and specific objectives
>get largely useless 'tutorial' missions based on a game rule
They really just gave up on that aspect of the game without a care.

>Ottoman AI is so JUSTed that it loses Constantinople to fucking Bulgaria and its crisis event thingy ends before the 1500s even start
top kek

>>725496969
at least in your game it did something, in mine they vassalized one guy near them and then stopped doing anything

>>725437373
The jews fear the AI

So meta rn is release your entire nation except for your starting province, grant burghers dev rights and building rights and start eating noble privileges right?

im in a bankruptcy spiral. its over for me. too many towns to fast, they got hungry and its rip

>>725497706
only start towning with an income of 25+

>>725497269
>caring about meta
>in a single player roleplaying game
Just pick the social values that fit your nation's spirit dude

I got court and country so I went full blasting from 45% crown land to 75%, from 13 privileges to 2 (peasants only). Fuck the estates. I am the state.

>fighting pretender war
>other claimant dies
sick that means i win right
>france now believes the crown belongs to them and is the new claimant
alt+f4

>>725498092
uvh...absolute monarchy...
what could be...

>>725498303
so what provinces should I town? ones with shitty rgos?

>>725498092
>Fuck the estates. I am the state.
Prosit

>>725497930
I was at 80+ ducats, food got ahead of me at the end of a war and town building, I'm just 5 speed to see what happen
very unexpected rip

Does having closed borders kill your nation

rip

PUT COMMONERS IN THE PARALIMENT

>>725499041
Remove nobility

>>725499176
Yeah

>>725491397
That's horseshit, they should have been nerfed some other way
France should be as much about leveraging your massive wealth as it should be about fearing that every neighbor wants a slice of that wealth

>>725498837
VGH

>>725499041
Oh yeah? Now why would I do that? What's in it for me?

Brandenburg is CBT

>>725498431
EVERY TILE A CITY
TOTAL PEASANT DEATH

>>725499281
we might make it

>>725498837
Libertarianmaxxing

>>725499624
Madmaxxing.

Reminder to put your own people in the cabinet and make one of them head of it for easy crown control.

I'm legitimately selling my nation to the AI besides my starting province

>>725499742
Nepotism? In MY progressive modern society?

>>725496329
Why don't we just do that with our immigrants?

>>725500620
Slaves contributed to society. The niggers that get imported into Europe can't even read.

>>725500620
basic economics anon
>buy 2 niggers and have them breed into 10
or
>buy 10 niggers