Thread 725450220

It just works

>>725450220 (OP)
why are japs so unimaginative, I thought they were better than chinksects?

>>725450220 (OP)
Based Pizzacity

>>725450220 (OP)
These are from the same show

>main city of the game
>it's called the capital

>>725450220 (OP)
When will open world games other than GTA have cities that are actually this big?

>medieval city
>being able to build next to / around a river

naniwotabeteirudesuka?

>>725450220 (OP)
Top right and left are the same anime. Shit meme

>>725450220 (OP)
soul

>>725450417
soon kid

>>725450272
what you mean? they were china before china

>>725450630
All of these are improvements tho

>>725450469
Look at those apartment blocks, they're clearly ancient Roman cities

>>725450534
it just works

>>725450469
But they got magic

>>725450694
Yeah, the romans could. But not medieval retards

>>725450220 (OP)

>Isekai is unimaginative trash

More on news at eleven.

>>725450630
Japan’s levi’s ripoff from the 1960s are now a luxury item and people pay 500 dollars for luxury “selvedge denim”

I wonder if in 50s people will pay absurd prices for cheap Chinese ripoffs

>>725450220 (OP)
what are they eating again ?

Ankh-Morpork?

>>725450469
I'm no historian but is it really that weird? Dams are no recent invention. Nor are canals. Nor are bridges.
Yeah it might have taken decades and killed hundreds in its construction and it's probably the weak point of the building but still.

>>725450417
The map size obsession is hilarious to me because like 90% of the players just do the main story and quit playing. People barely roam around, do side missions or any of those fun activities like stunts or whatever the fuck...
Unless you want it for multiplayer purposes which is different story.

>>725450469
Now that you mention it, the river in Kuttenberg is outside the city wall, and there's only a canal for the worker's district
Why is that?

>>725450469
Nearly all medieval cities were built like that, you even see the stripe next to the river being free of buildings.

>>725450682
meh there's reason why in back to the future the 50s doc brown thinks made in japan means low quality

>>725450790
>I wonder if in 50s people will pay absurd prices for cheap Chinese ripoffs
No, because unlike modern chinese broken OOB crap old japanese copies from the 50's/60's were actually good enough to last 70 years even if an obvious ripoff.

>>725450469
nigga

>>725450469
I don't know who you want to bullshit with this but my fucking birth town was founded next to a river in 600 a.d. and the historic parts basically look exactly like OP even today but smaller and with a cathedral at its heart.

Made me look up a historical map of the town where I was born
Why did they keep the river outside the city wall? Someone please explain

Unironically there are not enough generically generic fantasy RPG games with adventurers guilds n shit like depicted in your average isekai.

>>725450469
Yes? The need for a supply of fresh water is greater than the need to avoid flood damage. If the water source is outside of the wall, then there's no purpose behind having walls. Once the water source is taken, the city is indefensible.

>>725451039
Yeah because Japan was eating the american industry alive in the 80's.

>>725451203
>flood damage
Not the issue, I guess. I imagine anon is talking about how foundations would work with medieval tech.

>>725451203
Wells. You build a canal around the wall to basically have a moat

>>725450469
All civilization start beside water source.

>>725450946
when devs figure out how to make a big city a part of the main story
too bad they cant

>>725451134
>cranes
>pincer cranes at that
lmao

>>725451195
Well but there are enough generically generic fantasy RPG games exactly like in shitty isekais where you can control a woman that has, after a short time of reluctance, sex with everyone.
Or a cuck that watches his wife do that

>>725451134
Damn that looks fun, I should have gone into construction

>>725450272
>t. lives in a city that's literally just squares surrounded by 12 lane highways

>>725450469
How medieval are the isekai cities/societies though?
http://maps.mapywig.org/m/City_plans/Central_Europe/DANTZIG_IN_PLANO_8K_1687_nnv3bhf_BN_Sygn._ZZK_1_192.jpg

>>725451195
>Unironically there isn't enough vidya that is rancid dogshit like in your average web fiction written by Japanese high schooler ripping off other Japanese high schoolers on a nip equivalent of FF.net/wattpad/AO3
Okay?

>>725451514
Ackchuarrly it's 10 lanes and only surrounds half the perimeter of the city.

>>725450469
>everyone in the past was stupid and their lives were bad
Go back to eating microplastic and rotting your brain on social meida

>>725451432
nigga are you mentally challenged or something?
cranes were known in ancient egypt, its basic tool

>>725451328
Wait are the first two really from different anime? They're literally the same image.

>>725451659
So is the third, just with a central moat painted in

>>725451652
Yeah but not cranes like a fucking crane game picking up a single brick by the sides, work that would be faster and more efficient by having the people just toss the bricks from the ship.

>>725450469
Imagine being a subhuman

>>725450843
THE BIG WAHOONIE
>Captcha: PRRRR

>>725451585
Okay I don't understand why you got upset at that. I just like the comfy vibes of a looming yet not truly threatening demon king, adventurers just trying to make it to the next day, guilds, every race is here without an epic subversive gimmick, etc. etc, not necessarily the actual isekai stuff.

>>725450220 (OP)
It literally doesn't

>>725451758
meanwhile every real old crane I can find works by tying a rope around the thing to be lifted.
By the way, the right pincer isn't even touching the stone.

>>725450469
Wait, isn't it normal for millenia old cities to be built around rivers and lakes or next to the sea?

>>725451775
maybe in wakanda or whatever you work paco

>>725452000
its touching your ass, like your uncle used to do

>>725450469
Extremely effective bait, all these (you)s could fill a river by themselves

>>725452102
soulful map

>>725451195
It is kind of odd how often the adventurer's guild trope shows up in anime but practically doesn't exist in video games

>>725450220 (OP)
i didnt think that isekai slop could get any worse until i learned about manhwa isekai slop. who the fuck is reading AND making this shit and why is there so much?

>>725451149
>Why did they keep the river outside the city wall?
Maybe they could get drinking water from wells in an emergency and the river just provided an easy invasion route

>>725452196
It exists in old school dungeon crawlers which is where basically all Japanese fantasy derives from

>>725451535
starforts are early modern aka after medieval

>>725452093
I concede. Thanks for teaching me something new today.

>>725452281
Name 10 games

>AAAAA YOU ARE SUPPORT AND YOU AREN'T DPS SO YOU ARE USELESS TRASH GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SSSSS-RANK PARTY AAAA
>AAAAA I'M SILLY AND CHOLERIC AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW ADVENTURING WORKS AAAA
>AAAAA YOU COULD'VE EASILY REFUTED MY NONSENSE BUT YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE AND BETA TO DO THAT AAAA

>hey mister, do you want to join our party, Protagonist's Onaholes?
>ladies, please let me automagically everything for you with my support skills
>OH MY GOD, support classes can do SUPPORT?!
>MASAKA
>BAKANA
>I've never felt so supported in my whole life!
>MC-sama sugoi, pls support my womb with your baby batter!
>*humble beta noises*
>AAAAAH MC-sama please stop being so useful, I already came twice!

>AIEEEE WE ARE SSSSS-RANK BUT WE'RE GETTING DABBED ON BY GOBLINS AAAA
>AAAAA WHY AREN'T MY SHOELACES TIED THEY WERE ALWAYS TIED BEFORE AAAA
>AAAAA WHY IS EVERYTHING SO HORRIBLE WHAT COULD'VE POSSIBLY CAUSED THAT AAAA
>Hero-sama, m-maybe that support guy wasn't so useless after all?
>AAAAA I HATE THAT USELESS TRASH SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAA

>>725450220 (OP)
>Japan obsessing over Germany since the 1860s when they sent out envoys to the West
Krautaboos

>>725450630
It's so funny to me when people look at two guns which are roughly the same shape and go "well, one of those is clearly a rip-off". Nambu Type 14 may look like a Parabellum in shape, but it is so far removed from it internally. Luger is toggle-locked, Nambu has a rotating bolt. Nambus are also infamous for being total garbage, while Lugers are overcomplicated, but reliable and good.

>>725452315
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey 2
Etrian Odyssey 3
Etrian Odyssey 4
Etrian Odyssey 5
Etrian Odyssey Nexus
Etrian Odyssey Untold
Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold
Etrian Mystery Dungeon
Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2

>>725452218
i think its hunter slop not iseakai slop
iseaki is when nip is transported to fantasy/other world
hunter slop is when dungeon or magic is transfered to modern world and gooks hunt there for profit
also some of these look like returner slop, aka return to modern world with powers from fantasy world where you got iseakied

>>725452428
>2007
>old school dungeon crawlers

>>725452196
In most rpgs you have a greater goal, are always moving forward and you're not a shitter doing mundane adventurer jobs for cash. In stories set in the setting there are adventurers that are just chilling in the same city and working honest pay, and they need a hub to come back to for consistent work.
I guess monhun is kind of a vidya example but it's a hunter's guild

>>725451195
play Wizardry Variants Daphne

>>725452496
Also there's that one trope where a city gets turned into a gold rush for adventurers because a huge seemingly endless dungeon shows up out of nowhere directly outside. I'm not cultured enough to really know any vidya like this, probably dungeon crawlers, but persona is one such setting where the dungeon is right there in your town so you don't have to go on a globe trotting adventure.

>>725452351
I like the shoelacer concept but I hate how they keep shoving you the old asshole party down the throat and all have to have a DRAMA arc about MC having to confront his old leader.
Any shoelacer where the old party just gets murdered offscreen soon after MC gets kicked?

>>725452668
>Have anniversary
>Literally NOTHING happens aside from getting shitty amounts of pyros
Oh no.........
Well at least they didnt turn it into SAO

Any nice book (or other sources) recommendations for how medieval (and 1600s) towns and cities were laid out? I'd find it useful for GMing

>>725451718
Have there ever been towns that descended into holes like these? Not just for mining but actual houses and roads that went deeper and deeper.

>>725450469
is this not humanity 101? like we started civilization next to the euphrates and tigris

>>725452494
old school is a style, not a release date

>>725452908
Tails is cute.

>>725452831
You don't even need to be cultured in vidya to know anything like that, but what you need is to be able to actually pay attention to this thread and have an understanding of how humanity managed to prosper for over 8000 years.
Setting up near resources or creating a centralized area where resources flow is step one toward growth.

>>725451134
>source: dude trust me

>>725453174
>game has comfy outs

>>725450220 (OP)
>wow that's so unimaginative!!!

Meanwhile america

>>725451109
lol, bögen

>>725451718
Would

>>725453223
Gratz anon here's your degree in history.

>>725453208
By that I meant I'm not cultured enough in VIDYA to know how many games have that premise. But yeah the history stuff is cool I guess lol I don't really care that much though

>>725450469
>next to a river
got you anon

>>725450220 (OP)
Why is the right side of the first three cities completely identical? These are the same city, right? Even the roads are the same except for in the third with the strange appearance of a body of water.

>>725450469
bait? I don't know anymore...

>>725451149
>there are people ITT that can't find maps like this of their birthplace
I laugh