Thread 725453289

After almost 2 years of trying to pretend it wasn't, I finally realised how fucking awful this game is

i knew it was awful from the beginning
the least it could is be silly fun but it fails at that too
its just an abomination of a game, can barely call it tekken

>>725453352
could do*

>>725453352
What gets me is that even at high level, the best players in the world are playing the same retard mode everyone else is

You'd think that some sort of meta would emarge to vindicate the weird design choices the game makes, but no, it's just idiot guessing games and dancing back and forth hoping the other guy does something dumb

>>725453289 (OP)
Better late than never anon. Use this as a lesson for the next game relentlessly shilled before launch, even if it's a franchise you loved.

>>725453676
>What gets me is that even at high level, the best players in the world are playing the same retard mode everyone else is
there are exceptions like knee
>it's just idiot guessing games and dancing back and forth hoping the other guy does something dumb
murrays vision

>>725453289 (OP)
I absolutely hate those stupid camera zoom-ins everytime someone does a heat burst, activates heat, or Tornados.

>>725453289 (OP)
tekken fanboys are always crying about tekken
i remember tekken 4 and tekken tag 2

I thought they had fixed everything that Season 2 patched in.
I myself quit when I started seeing the heat activation into plus frames meta, stage hazard extensions, heat extensions and all the visual noise which was already annoying in 7.

>>725453289 (OP)
Well yeah, I mean it's a game that was developed on the idea of making it more action packed to watch, not to play.

>>725453352
This, called it out for being slop before they even added microtransactions and in-game shop several months after release.

tekken has always been shit

>>725453289 (OP)
kekken was never good, in fact, 3d fighters were never good

>>725453676
>What gets me is that even at high level, the best players in the world are playing the same retard mode everyone else is

I don't follow, I feel like that's all the big fighters anymore. When was the last time a solid meta came out of a fighter that wasn't cheese based?

>>725453289 (OP)

Season 2 beginning with Anna back in March and all the terrible changes they made REALLY hurt the game for the worst.

>>725454032
That's ultimately the cures of all esports is that games built just around skill are not that fun to watch and the ones that are just are not that fun to play.

>>725454169
I wouldn't go that far but it's clear around 5 they stop abiding by any principles of what the meta should and shouldn't be.

>>725454296
give me a run down. I wasn't their prior at all so I have no clue what this game was at launch

>>725454483
>around 5
ha ha ha
good joke

>>725454543
I'm open to hearing you case of when it started or what shifts I'm missing. 4 had missteps but 5 was the end due to it's success of wide appeal from the changes made.

It's underwhelming for sure and I was laughing my ass off from the get go when they announced the aggressive approach. Still I'm enjoying it more than sf, used to play a lot of ranked in t7, and in t8 I'm mainly playing against a friend who sucks ass at the game and learning new characters. t8 might be shitty but I'm still having fun learning Steve, aggression doesn't always beat b+1.

>>725454292
Tekken 8 is the only modern fighting game to my knowledge where approaching is inherently risky because 90% of moves hit like a truck, will probably track if you sidestep, and/or launch on counter hit for a combo

It really is a coin flip as to whether fishing for big damage turns out to be a good thing or bad, so the best strategy is to bait them into whiffing. The problem with that is that Tekken has the most boring neutral/safe poke game in the genre, so matches drag forever with players doing little, and that's before you even factor in Rage arts killing whatever momentum the fight has. Game's a big mess

>>725454862
isn't S+ in comebacks very common with most rank players? Considering that requires your enemy to have more than 80 health to your 30 shows how yo-yo the fights get and not in a satisfying way

>>725453289 (OP)
Most soulful
>2, 4
Best combat
>3, 4, TTT
The rest are irrelevant

>>725454537

Launch was fine at first. Was an initial learning curve for many due to the aggressive push they wanted to enforce with the game going forward.

But Michael Murray started voicing complaints and suggestions again behind the scenes, he wasn't happy that lower skilled players weren't being rewarded for powering through, made a fool out of himself for not know how some character actions even work in-game (making unreasonable suggestions like not being able to side-step the odd Kazuya input) and started saying a bunch of shit like he did during T7.

Soon after disconnect fights became rife during online play, T8 became known as the online fighter people were basically throwing matches and getting angrier at the game's seasonal changes with characters.

Season 2 dropped with Anna back in March and all the fun just evaporated over night. It made the Heat system just plain unbalanced, rearranged combos damage values either in lower extremes or higher extremes, increased chip damage to stupid levels, removed nuanced blocks from certain actions and movements. And to top it all off they just plain ignored the customers and fans for the first few weeks until they had no choice but to address that they'd used newer staff to be their balance team for Season 2. It was a shit show and they haven't really recovered since earlier this year.

>>725453289 (OP)
I knew from the very first trailer it was shit. Then I saw like 7 or so trailers drop before a single defensive option was shown. It was so obvious it was going to be a rushdown coinflip simulator.

Worst part, cant even go back to Tekken 7 because they ruined that game with Season 3. If you want to play Tekken you have to break out the PS3 and deal with even shittier netcode.

Fightcade forever

>>725455163
It literally only takes a couple of interactions to win a round. True, Tekken has always been like this, but you had more means to evade or interrupt pressure in the past. Now that plus frames and tracking are so oppressive, especially with heat, your defensive options are a lot more limited so you'd better make sure your blocking and throw breaks are on point

For a 3D fighter it's one dimensional as fuck

>>725453289 (OP)
2000h bad review, the post

>>725454029
True but those fanboys were always right. They saw the writing on the wall. You havent posted an own, youve only spotlighted their vindication

>>725454537
>>725454543
Launch was not fine. It was dogshit then and is dogshit now

>>725455912
someone only plays 0.3 hours and leaves a bad review
>WAHHHH WAHHH THEY DIDNT EVEN PLAY THE GAME
someone puts 2k hours into a game
>HOW CAN IT BE BAD IF YOU PLAYED IT

I know you're likely 13 years old, but try to think before you post, kay?

>>725456291
it's going to be okay lil bro

>>725453289 (OP)
I could only "pretend" (hope it gets fixed) until they revealed Clive, that was the end of the line, after I stopped playing all of the S2 shit happened and I was sure it's unfixable, and no, Tekken 9 has no chance of being good either because I remember everyone saying the same shit about Tekken 8 some years ago.

>>725456353
Idk why I expected a less retarded reply from you, but here we are.

>>725455880
>but you had more means to evade or interrupt pressure in the past. Now that plus frames and tracking are so oppressive, especially with heat, your defensive options are a lot more limited

That's what I've noticed so far, I've seen green rank smoke purple rank many times by just getting that one opening and getting the opponent in a corner and the game just turns into "who gets the opening?"

>>725453289 (OP)
>2 years
Literally how? I stopped playing at 200 hours and it was without a doubt the most frustrating game I've ever played, the final straw was some Jin who just couldn't stop pressing buttons no matter what.

>>725456504
Ranks mean jack shit in t8. My friend plays Reina, he can neither do wave dashing nor electrics. He's in purple ranks.

>>725455912
>>725456291
shitposting aside I argue this is one of those cases where time played isn't as much a metric when you consider the sneaky shit. Remember the pass and shop drop a month after launch with no warning, they knew how bad that would go if they advertised it at launch, that means their would be a lot players that logged in 40+ hours or more to be rightly upset now in a way they weren't at launch.

That's what is fuck up about this whole mess, they are changing the fundamentals so radically it's like three different games in the span of two years.

post lili

>>725456041
It was decent, the march patch was when the death spiral started and it was clear they just wanted the Smash Brothers audience.

>>725456724
They were so scummy with the show by having the ESRB rating not include it until that February patch where they adjusted to include "in-game transactions". That means they went through another unneeded check with the board just to make sure you didn't know they were planning a cash shop at launch.

>>725457005
>they just wanted the Smash Brothers audience

I wish T8 was even half as strategic or skillful as Smash

>>725457115
Tekken 8 is just No items, Fox only, Final Destination

This game was built on a faulty foundation where extreme offensive options are the focus in order to make new players feel less overwhelmed by having to learn proper defense and movement.

>>725457252
tekken 8 is everyone 50% on a small map with increased item spawn

>>725455196
Based.
Tekken 4 is the peak for me.

>>725457330
Yeah it feels like this was the goal
>Don't want to learn movelists, movement, matchups or mindgames?
>No problem, now every button launches a nuclear missile, so just keep them coming until one of them gets through

What exactly is the difference between Tekken, Dead or alive and Virtua Fighter? I know VF is the hardest and most realistic of the bunch and DOA is apparently just an easier version of it, so where does Tekken differentiate?

>>725457745
Someone at a tournament said some words that really stick with me: "Tekken 8 doesn't want you to study harder, it just gives your opponent more homework."

>>725454862
>because 90% of moves hit like a truck
Moves in older Tekken games hit much much harder
There's plenty use to trash T8 but damage is objectively not, you got blown up for small mistakes in older titles too

Regardless of its simplicity I am 100% a better Tekken player because of how much I evolved by playing 8.

If not for having to exchange my muscle memory for combos I did in past Tekken games I could take what I've picked up by playing 8 and put on a much stronger showing in earlier games too. I was getting to this level in 7 and would probably have reached it there if it didn't happen so close to 8's release.

>Tekken 1
>Tekken 2
>Tekken 3
>Tekken 4
>Tekken 5
>Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
>Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection Online
>Tekken 6
>Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion
>Tekken 7
>Tekken 7 Bloodline Rebellion
>Tekken 8
>Tekken Tag Tournament 1
>Tekken Tag Tournament 1 HD
>Tekken Tag Tournament 2
>Tekken Revolution
>Tekken Death By Degrees
>Tekken Mobile
>Street Fighter X Tekken

>>725458065
For a 30+ year old series, that's not a lot.
Also you forgot Tekken 3D

>>725457779
VF is about assessing your opponent's knowledge and technical expertise, the pace is lightning fast, and you have to be constantly aware of the stage due to ring outs

DOA is VF but everyone is a grappler and there's constant crazy stage hazards, and tits

Tekken is simply about weighing up how gullible your opponent is- if they're retarded, kill them. If they're not, wait for them to be retarded, then kill them

>>725458065
Tekken Advance, bitch

>>725458350
Forgot Tekken Advance as well

>>725457779
tekken differentiate by introducing the legendary limb-based combat where there's a button for each of the four limbs
to be honest, both doa and tekken started being very inspired by VF, the actual different franchise is soulcalibur

>>725458065
>Tekken 2
Remember playing with friends on console and on PC when I was a kid. Tekken should have had a dignified death instead of being milked for three decades.

>>725458065
Seems to be what fighters do really.
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II
Mortal Kombat 3
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Mortal Kombat 4
Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub‑Zero
Mortal Kombat Gold
Mortal Kombat: Special Forces
Mortal Kombat Advance
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance Handheld edition
Mortal Kombat: Tournament edition
Mortal Kombat: Deception
Mortal Kombat Unchained
Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe
Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat X
Mortal Kombat 11
Mortal Kombat 1
Mortal Kombat: Legacy Kollection

I'm not even trying Street Fighter right now

>>725458065
Leave multi billion dollar corporations alone

>>725458465
What causes type of meltdown anyway? Juggernaut isn't that high a rank and you certainly wouldn't have made a career out of it.

>>725453402
is this supposed to be "oh no" in australian

>>725453289 (OP)
Come home white man.

>>725453289 (OP)
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION 8

>>725453976
>there are exceptions like knee
Nigga tries but he's playing a losing game.

>>725453289 (OP)
this and sf6 are genuine brainrot
making fighting games hyperaggressive to appeal to casuals who aren't patient enough for neutral is a big mistake
lots of short term sales, but player retention falls off a cliff, and since aggression nullifies skill expression, you almost never get any memorable moments
>oh shit he landed 8/15 mixups and won due to the matchup-specific frame data advantage
>wow he's the best in the world
it's BORING
MAKE FIGHTING GAMES DEFENSIVE AGAIN

>>725459894
That's retarded as well. It rewards players to be passive. The result is two people staring each other down or jerking around awkwardly, which is neither fun to play nor fun to watch. It also rewards laziness.
>My offense is trash, so I'll just let my opponent come to me.
Balance would be nice.

>>725460214
Strong defense is inherently more balanced than strong offense.

Execution needs to come back as a balancing mechanic.

>>725460570
Fuck off, retard.

>>725460214
that's when mind games can lead to unpredictable matches and super hype moments
as it currently stands, fighting games feel like a race to landing a combo-compatible mixup from neutral
first person to land a sweep or overhead wins
wtf man

>>725459894
>player retention falls off a cliff,
Doesn't matter to scamco and crapcom. Hitting their sales quotas is more important than making a game people will actually stick with and enjoy.

>>725453289 (OP)
>>725454075
I called this shit out in T7 Season 3.
It's long been apparent Namco lost their edge after they dropped arcade support. The death of loctests doomed the genre.
On the other hand, the Tekken community is so vile it couldn't have happened to a better fanbase.

Why is /tekgen/ unusable? Why is Tekken's community actually so fucking fucked? >>725459894
It's hilarious since I'm watching how pros play and they're too fucking scared of offense that people will just play poke heavy matches and really defensive play because overextending and getting caught puts you into a mixer that's hard to recover.

>>725461029
The Tekken community is one of the most immature I interact with. It is SO HARD to get them to just be serious for any length of time before they can't fight the urge to say shit like "Lars mains take their steak well done" followed by any number of POGGERS emojis.

>>725461029
We don't play the game and truthfully, gave up on the series many years ago. /tekgen/ is a shitposting general.

>>725461029
pro play doesn't represent the average player's experience
the average tk8 online experience is brainrot
pro players are scared to whiff because damage is too high, which was also done to appeal to casuals
the game sucks for everybody involved because the developers are scared of driving away casuals
the only people who enjoy tekken 8 are people who want easy wins by spamming flowcharts
real fighting game players are disappointed

>>725461416
I wouldn't care about shitposting if this game was so goddamn complex where you're constantly talking about subjects like frame advantage for hundreds of attacks and which way you have to step to avoid things.

>>725461427
Oh I know I'm just saying it's ironic as fuck that casuals complain about unga bunga when pros play the complete opposite of that (because they're afraid of the unga bunga) lol.

T5DR was the peak of fighting games. The brain rot started after that.

T5 is too glazed

>>725458354
QFT, this guys knows his shit

I'll be honest the stream era of tekken 7 made tekken 8 look about the same but with more big moves so i got bored.

then that stupid hehachi dlc story ended on a fart. could of setup a new organization to make the story interesting again. but instead he kills all the guys who revived him because muh secrecy

>play t8
>opponent is a TTV user
>check his stream
>he's shittalking whether he's winning or losing
why is the whole fucking fanbase like this? LTG is kinda funny because you KNOW he's memeing but these people are getting angry over guessing wrong or right.

>>725462787
>LTG is kinda funny because you KNOW he's memeing
You do? Looks like another raging retard to me.

>>725461969
>World and T7 get FF crossovers
>they end up shit
>Wilds and T8 again get tainted by FF
>they also end up shit
Interesting.

>>725462868
I always thought he was memeing. I think he wore the mask for too long now.

>gets rid of best girl
>game flops
deserved

I miss Negan. He was a shitheel of a character and he's just really fun to play with. It's also funny as fuck when people expect me to BM when I add them and I just thank them for the matches. I've been playing Clive but he's a little too good boy for me. I've tried Alisa but she's too basic (I love her aggressive chainsaw mix though). Maybe I should try out Lars? I was thinking of Xiaoyu too but I really miss the whole
>"Easy Peasy lemon squeezy"
>"JUDGEMENT" "LUCILLE GIVE ME STRENGTH"
>"OOO TAKING IT LIKE A CHAMP"

>>725462879
just about any brand that gets roped into FF has this issue. It's likely showing what the devs are after: the casual audience.

>>725460659
You are the retard. The fact you see defensive play as "passive" shows that

honest truth
Tekken 8 is perfectly fine. We've lived through MUCH worse balance and meta especially in other fighting games. The biggest problem with T8 is unironically its community. They blow things out of proportion and don't know what the fuck they want.

>>725463105
but the coffee girl is jsut like her but funnier

>>725462787
Tekken players are a special breed. I dabble in fighting games here and there and no playerbase is as angry and petty as Tekken players. Ragequits happen nearly every session, same as ki charges andcteabagging. I never get hatemail except when I'm playing Tekken. Some will simply insult me when I win, gloat when I lose. And worst of all: they never rematch. Tekken players are gigantic pussies. I experience nothing close to it in other fighting games.

>>725463916
shut up murray

>>725463916
More like honest delusion. t7 used to go hand in hand with sf5, now almost ten times more people are play sf6 than t8.

>>725464143
NTA but I also experienced hatemail and rage quits in SC too. Besides tekken they're the only times I ever got them in a fighting game something about Bamco fighters brings out the inner rage

>>725454681
You're enjoying it specifically because you have a friend to play against IRL. The instant I moved away fighting games lost all their luster and fun. The desire of at least being better than my friend isn't there anymore. Just online faceless competition. And I don't love videogames as much I love playing them with others in my immediate vicinity

>>725463916
If anything they haven't shitted on Tekken 8 enough.

T8 is a mistake. They had a perfect base with T7 but they wanted to be different and look what that got them

>>725464143
>>725464298
I'm not even joking, I think the problem is we need more funny good times in Tekken, too much autistic rage. This is probably one of the funniest shits I've ever seen back in T7 days and the only thing we get in T8 is autistic drama rage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8bfgSlCR4

>>725464143
>King player starts T-bagging me when he's intentionally lag switching me on offense
????????????? what the fuck lol

>>725460659
Offense is inherently stronger when you have half a day to confirm and 5frame of buffer.

Tekken's entire foundation is the sheer amount of memorization autism it requires. Movement tech itself isn't even that hard (KBD is easy to do, doing it well is hard, but so is movement in any FG). The game is just mashing strings and command grabs on noobs until you memorize the entire dictionary of Tekken moves.
>oh wow that's the 3rd hit of f2+3+4, b4, f3, df2 while in crouching black swan moonlight stance!! I labbed this for 300 hours!!1 I can sidestep it to the left, on a Sunday, during a full moon, while it's raining, on the 2nd player side, then punish it at -12 with a while rising!
This is actually artificial depth: pointless knowledge checks constantly. And since they kept the nerfed movement from T7 and decreased push-back and increased tracking, the game is even more string mash since you can't use movement as much to avoid stuff and play basic footsies. Look at pro Tekken. 99% of throws gets teched since the tech window is so big and pros have the animation for each grab memorized. Imagine a fighting game where throws and the majority of moves are gimmicks that only scrub out new players instead of part of opening people up, that's Tekken. Then when you get knocked down by gimmicky random shit, the oki is even more oppressive than any anime game, and it's a 3 or 4 way guess instead of a 50/50 that's safe for the attacker. And you die in 2 hits because of the insane damage. Literally everything wrong with 3D fighters with none of the (very few) good things about them.

>>725453289 (OP)
Tekken 8?
More like Dogshit AIDS

>>725463375
bump.

I'm waiting for Marduk since he seems to have that whole vibe but not even Fahk covers it because Fahk gives the more try harder vibe instead of the chill unc who wants to play some games.

I don't get the whole "everything is a knowledge check" because you can tell when a string is going to hit low (whether the game registers you blocking low is a whole other thing though). And in neutral you're pretty much always going to be guessing if they're going to do a safe high or risky low. Do people actually try to memorize shit or sidestep or duck autistically in the lab instead of just do matches, see the move once and go "oh okay that's their bullshit low, gotta watch out for that"

While it wasn't awful at all, they improved Anna's face, although I was already getting used to her Tekken 7 face

>>725464319
It's more thanks to Steve than my friend to be honest. Your logic is sound, having a circle helps a lot, but my friend can't play for shit. It's not fun when it's completely one sided.

>>725464681
I was frustrated with the big ass move lists in tekken when I was first getting into the game, but now I feel the opposite. When I play sf I can't shake off the feeling that characters are way too similar too each other, same buttons just slightly different properties and specials.

I will be forever laughing as a kid I wanted a Tekken 3 anime so bad and I started making my own fanfic over it and then the Tekken 3 anime actually does happen and comes out and it was fucking DOG SHIT. Why the fuck would God do this to me?

I want Claudio to fuck me

fucking NOBODY plays entire sets beyond Bushin

FINISH YOUR SETS PUSSIES, FINISH THE 2 OUT OF 3. FINISH IT. COWARDS

>>725467441
Nobody finishes it in gold ranks either.
Tekken players are the biggest mental midgets of all fightans

>>725467441
>Tekken players
>Play once
>ONLY ONCE win or lose
>Bail
PUSSSIES

>>725453676
> muh "meta"
fuck off with this retarded term
>>725454075
>unironically calling everything you dislike "slop"
fuck you and this annoying as hell faggot buzzword, fuck I hate this shit
>>725454169
>being a contrarianfag
fuck you
>>725453289 (OP)
The thing they fucked up the most was the feet in T8, you'd think with a new engine and all this new shit they'd look better, but they actually look 10 times worse than what we got in T7

>>725467441
That's why I only play quick match but because of the character I play I only get 1 match.
I'll try to do a FT3 or FT5 if they allow me but they'll sometimes just quit on the first loss/first win

>>725467441
>>725468472
Really? I get rematches easy on ranks, sadly I'm the one that usually bails after two matches (assuming it's not 2 win/lose sets) due to time restraints

>>725469327
what character

The saddest part of this thread is people saying Tekken 8 was ever good. No, it was never a real Tekken game. The entire philosophy of the game is to be easier to play and funner to watch. From the gate they reduced the execution barrier, reduced counterplay, amd homogenized the characters (along with many other issues) it was never a valid Tekken game and the fact people are calling Tekken 8 a good base shows that Murray won. He moved the overton window enough to finally kill real Tekken. Mark my words, when HD remasters start coming out, none of the people who started with Tekken 7, or Tekken 8 will be able to hang. They will realize how sloppy their execution is and wont be able to adapt, getting bodied over and over until they quit the game.

>>725469327
It's usually a one and done with me, I don't even think it's my character (I like using Yoshi)

>>725464826
Its just a cope that Leffen made popular because he tried Tekken 7 and got his shit busted

>>725469425
Alisa, Victor, and King
I almost never have a one match situation.

>>725469425
>>725469553
I've been told time of day and week matters more that what you play.

I genuinely think that people who keep saying T8 is bad have been brainwashed by ecelebs. It's not the best fighting game to exist but it is entertaining to play (sometimes/most of the time exhausting). It's this negative feedback loop that causes T8 to be worse than it is and that's mainly because people keep falling into the memes that hyper aggressive offense is bad.

It doesn't have to be bad but when most fighting games are hyper aggressive I think that's why people are getting the fatigue. T8 doesn't suck, you're just tired of rushdown fighters.

>>725469723
>Alisa
genuine surprised. My Alisa gets T-bagged and then one and done'd often lol
>King
and it's usually by king players haha

>>725469808
Weekends are the absolute worse lol.

>>725469537
Bold of you to assume we will see remasters or the like

>>725469814
>t8 isn't bad, it just feels bad to play
Is the joke here that you are also brainwashed?

TRVKE NVKE: t8 is unironically the best tekken we've had since 5, if not ever. and it SHITS on t7. HARD.
>graphics are obviously amazing and the finest the series has seen (meanwhile t7 looks lower fidelity than t6 & tt2)
>(most) characters are dressed the best they've ever looked (can't name any real misses other than paul's karen cut and lee's default outfit)
>the game actually has a decent story for once and the characters have genuinely good endings (t7's were beyond embarrassing)
>jukebox that includes almost every tekken bgm (t7 had this but only on ps4 lol)
>you can make and fight your own ghost cpu (coolest new feature imho)
>tekken ball kino finally returns from t3 (now just add tekken bowling and t7 will lose half its single player relevance lol)
>rage arts have leagues better choreography than t7's (seriously, watch them back to back it's humiliating)
>heat is conceptually a really neat mechanic overall (if it were a more limited resource everyone would love it, let's be real)
>chip damage with recoverable health through attacking killed boring ass turtling for good (another t7 L)
>just moving your character (moving backwards, sidestepping, running, etc.) finally feels fluid for once (compare to t7's clunky movement and janky kbd)
>by far the best tutorial and practice mode of any tekken game (in t7 you had to pay for frame data fucking lol)

And that's the problem, there's too many bad faith schizos for this damn game.

>>725470248
Whats sadder is me may actually feel that way. Tekken 8 brought in a lot lf mentally deficient zoomers who have ever played a Tekken game before and they will defend their new toy to the death

>>725460914
Season 3 in Tekken 7 was fine, you bitches whine about everything

>>725460214
>The result is two people staring each other down or jerking around awkwardly
Exactly, this is why "defensive" play got rightfully fucked in T8 and I hope they double down on this in future games

>>725459894
>MAKE FIGHTING GAMES DEFENSIVE AGAIN
NO, fuck "defensive" play, shit is boring to play, fight against, or watch. T8 made the right call to do away with this shit, aggression and pressure is what matters most and makes Tekken what it is

>>725458582
Nope, I'm glad it kept going, fuck you

>>725458350
>that's not a lot
That's plenty, shut the fuck up

>>725454292
>I don't follow, I feel like that's all the big fighters anymore
Unironically why I stopped playing modern fighting games, totally worthless use of time

>season 1 and 2 of tekken 7 were well received
>add dumb 50/50 characters to season 3 and 4, now eveyrone hates the game
>double down on those seasons but also chop everyone legs so you constantly eat shit 24/7
>why does everyone hate tekken 8?

murray you piece of garbage

>>725455196
shit taste, TTT2 and T7 deserve recognition faggot

>>725470156
Rage Arts, heat smashes, CH launchers, power crushes, five minute combos etc have all diminished the appeal and joy of Tekken. It was always great for its deceptive simplicity. Now it's deceptively convoluted, which is in direct contrast to the series' original design philosophy. Now you let a beginner play the game and they're utterly confused by all the heat and rage art shit and the long combos just makes it even worse for them. And these mechanics are also lame at highest level of play since they're so skill-less.

No, this isn't the best Tekken, let alone a good one. It's a bad Tekken game and a bad fighting game.

>>725472383
Supposedly S1 and 2 of Tekken 7 was directed by a different dude that left Bamco in the later seasons. The Tekken team also absorbed a bunch of SC retards too.

>>725472278
So you're a bitch? At least you admit it.

Tekken 5 glazing is so fucking weird

>>725467836
Whatever helps you cope faggot

>>725472521
What you on about buddy. It's always been seen as the best Tekken game for oldfags

>>725472521
It's not glazing when it's the truth.

tekken has been going downhill since T6 when that fucker murray joined the design team, it started with the introduction of bound, rage and awful characters like Lars, Alisa, Bob, etc. the game will never be like before, just watch a clip from 5 so you can see what i mean, moves had less range and were flawed instead of covering almost every option, every character is a stance machine now with shit like 1,2,f stance, or 3,2,f stance, combos are ridiculously long, regular bnbs take 10s on average when the longest combos took 5-6s at most before, zoom ins and slow downs everywhere, they made rage art animations longer in 8 compared to 7, the game is also 100gb+ of pure UE slop that looks and performs like shit with random fps drops during character select and round starts as wells as particle effects that make it impossible to look at, tekken used to be about exagerated martial arts with anime sprinkled on top now they became fully commited to all the anime shit, no balance change will ever "save" tekken 8 or make it fun to play

>>725472602
>It's always been seen as the best Tekken game for oldfags
i thought old fags just moved to the current day entry except for tt2 and t8.

>>725472680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7B9oiXsNo
He's always right

>>725472680
Fuck Murray.

>Forces his OC (Fukuram)
>Lies
>Runined Tekken
There's not enough ill will I can wish on this faggot

>>725453289 (OP)
no Josie no buy

>>725464090
and uglier

>>725463105
my man of good taste

>>725472502
>If you don't play 70+ bucks fighting games designed primarily around the lowest common denominator and netplay then you're a bitch
Whatever floats your boat

>>725465534
Her face in 7 was fine, it was her face in TTT2 that was ugly with the massive nose

Did they ever buff my wife(female(xx chromosome(descendent of eve)))?

>>725471608
But it was obviously a sign of things to come.

>>725471608
>fakurmom
>ez mode leeroy

It was so bad it kinda killed the game

Why is Tekken 8 porn so mid?

>>725474601
Tekken community is super anti-sexy so I just don't think there's much interest from within the fanbase. You'll never see a reaction to tekken girls the way SF bros reacted to like the swimsuit costumes or mai for example. So the lack of popularity means lack of porn especially these days.

>>725473495
All human beings are descendants of Eve, not just women, retard.

>>725474601
There's only lewdgazer (who spams Lili) and Celadora (who mostly does renders).

>>725471913
That's the biggest problem with T8 though, they made aggression so OP that players don't want to engage

It backfired and had the opposite intended effect

>>725463105
How do they decide who stays and goes in roster?

>we want the esport competitive audience
>but we also want the retard casual audience that doesn't care about learning the game

why are pro sports able to garner a massive audience without dumbing themselves down so any retard can play in the majors?

>>725477545
With real sports there's an actual physical element to it that acts as a hard filter

>>725472407
T7 is worse than TT2 in almost every way. Somehow including graphically. Its saving grace being it was at least simpler for normies.

>>725477630
so why do fighting game devs think that removing the things that emulate that filter (i.e high execution) is going to result in something people want to watch?

>>725472262
It really isnt, thats not even 20 titles for 30 years, so not even 1 game per year, and that list includes
>rereleases
>upgrade versions that were not even sold (6 is arcade only, 6br is the console version of 6, same with 7)
>games made by other companies (sfXt)
>not even fighting game spinoffs (DBD)
If you only count real fighting game releases only i doubt there is more than 15 for 30+ years, thats a game every 2 to 3 years.

>>725476505
used to be elferan. muratpg is okay if I REALLY just turn my brain off on the stiff janky animations.

Can't people just play Tekken 5 DR with rollback these days or am I just misinformed?

>>725478871
Ur misinformed (and dumb)

>>725479016
Welp, atleast you can play Tekken 3 and Tag Tournament with rollback.

>>725473490
Are you referring to the first release? that's already been fixed; it was one of the best faces they ever made
Worst face was in Tekken 6

YA HAVE A MARTINI

I can't wait for Marduk.

>>725453289 (OP)
i didnt buy it or pay attention to it
even numbered tekkens are ALWAYS failures
and tekken 7 was pretty much modern perfection of the tekken formula anyway, dont see any point in them making t8 except greed, which as we know with bamco is always the case