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Anonymous No.725466025 [Report] >>725466674 >>725467024 >>725467092 >>725467502 >>725467839 >>725467995 >>725468504 >>725468854 >>725469237 >>725469258 >>725469887 >>725471875 >>725471957 >>725472208 >>725472424 >>725472434
Just imagine how expensive the new GPUs will be if RAM is already this expensive.
Anonymous No.725466340 [Report]
good thing I don't play modern vidya
Anonymous No.725466545 [Report]
Thanks, but I'll be sticking with my 2x16GB DDR5-6000.
Anonymous No.725466674 [Report] >>725466832
>>725466025 (OP)
Just make budget model GPUs with 2GB of vram
Anonymous No.725466684 [Report] >>725468135 >>725468360 >>725469862 >>725472404 >>725472564
We're at the point now were we've already done all the good science and now it's just a bunch of faggot nerds making slop tech like A.I and electric cars, so we need to start culling them or they're just going keep ruining things
Anonymous No.725466832 [Report]
>>725466674
>2GB of vram
unfortunately that is not enough nowadays at 1080p.
unoptimized and bloated engines and inefficient apis lead to huge memory overhead.
6gb is minimum for 1080p with 8 being recommended.

ironically intel is kinda the way to go for budget gpus and raster rendering.
Anonymous No.725466843 [Report] >>725467991
>all those people who were waiting for Black Friday to upgrade
Anonymous No.725466963 [Report] >>725467161 >>725467689 >>725469517 >>725471583 >>725472585
Nvidia and AMD are literally gorging up all the DRAM fab allocations for their GPUs though, that's why DIMM prices are skyrocketing. Once the AI bubble pops you'll be able to buy datacenter GPUs for pennies
Anonymous No.725467008 [Report]
It only spiked because of recent orders building out the new data centers. Once those are satisfied, it'll come back down. Of course that's unless the bubble pops before then. Sucks that it coincides w/ the holiday season but that's just how it went. Also, I know that Nvidia keeps a huge supply in reserve and would assume that AMD does some as well, the caveat being that AMD hasn't yet made the switch to GDDR7.
Based Leaf No.725467024 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
Lol RAM is half the price of an Xbox Ally X LMAO!
Anonymous No.725467090 [Report] >>725467198 >>725467204
Are we just supposed to sit back and accept being priced out of our lifelong hobbies? Are we just supposed to accept this?
Anonymous No.725467092 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
why do you need 64gb of ram?
Anonymous No.725467161 [Report]
>>725466963
>datacenter GPUs for pennies
those all will have 50k used hours on them or most likely bought by AWS and other corporations, nobody will buy $20k A100 to play video games on it
Anonymous No.725467198 [Report]
>>725467090
Yes.
Based Leaf No.725467204 [Report]
>>725467090
I bought an Xbox Ally X and wont be buying anything else for the next 5 years.
Anonymous No.725467228 [Report]
>heard ram price go up
>was at shopping mall later that day
>decide to buy whatever they have left for $130
>realized its 5600 CL40 later
>next day ask if I can trade it in
>they said sure but only if the stuff you trade in is the same price
>let me check their entire stock from the entire country
>they still have 6400 CL36 pair for exactly tre same price
>swap it but now I have to wait for the store get the said item shipped in then I can go pick it up
Anonymous No.725467502 [Report] >>725467605 >>725467617 >>725467735 >>725472520
>>725466025 (OP)
>AI niggers once more fucking things up for everyone else
I really think india should be nuked off the map.
Anonymous No.725467605 [Report]
>>725467502
Cry more poorfag babby
Anonymous No.725467617 [Report] >>725467707
>>725467502
i think its ameriniggers who are behind it desu
Anonymous No.725467689 [Report] >>725467719 >>725467783 >>725467881 >>725467896 >>725467953 >>725467978 >>725468261 >>725468286 >>725468368 >>725472484 >>725472719
>>725466963
do you think the ai bubble will pop anon? im not too informed on the whole thing but it seems like we are fonna be dealing with this crap for a long while
Anonymous No.725467703 [Report]
You don't need more than 16gb
Anonymous No.725467706 [Report]
Consumers don't pay tariffs.
Based Leaf No.725467707 [Report]
>>725467617
People from india largely, in Canada anyways. They resell everything. Brown people are a scourge.
Anonymous No.725467719 [Report]
>>725467689
No.
Anonymous No.725467735 [Report] >>725467845
>>725467502
Unironically would help heal the world. India/Pakistan should just be collectively nuked.
Based Leaf No.725467783 [Report]
>>725467689
Yes.
Anonymous No.725467839 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
Glad I built my PC in April
The RAM I bought at 88$ for 2 16GB sticks are now $250
Based Leaf No.725467845 [Report]
>>725467735
100%
Anonymous No.725467881 [Report]
>>725467689
Maybe
Anonymous No.725467896 [Report]
>>725467689
Yes, but it might take a few years.
Anonymous No.725467953 [Report]
>>725467689
Normally I'd say yes but the economy is reaching levels of game and gay that are truly surreal
Anonymous No.725467978 [Report] >>725468301
>>725467689
I want you to go look at the valuation of AI just in the united states right now and ask that question again
Anonymous No.725467991 [Report] >>725468056
>>725466843
posting my wife...
Anonymous No.725467995 [Report] >>725468231 >>725468429 >>725468545 >>725472607
>>725466025 (OP)
>new AA games in 2026 will require 32GB min RAM
Anonymous No.725468056 [Report]
>>725467991
holy fuck you're annoying
Anonymous No.725468135 [Report] >>725468534
>>725466684
I hate touch screens on cars, give me my buttons back!
Anonymous No.725468231 [Report]
>>725467995
>64GB is new recommendation if you want play on high settings
Anonymous No.725468261 [Report]
>>725467689
possibly
Anonymous No.725468286 [Report] >>725468556
>>725467689
The bubble is going to pop but AI is a tool that will be continue to be refined and used as long as technology exists.
Anonymous No.725468301 [Report]
>>725467978
as i said i know very little. i know that the value is only increasing so the dumb part of me wants to say that it can only continue, but the otber bit of me thinks that at some point it has to just implode from its own weight, but then what after that? more of the same stuff but on smaller scales and then they get more value and the cycle continues from there?

i dont know, i just want this ai shit out of my games and pc and i dont want anything to do with it. well unless they make smart ais and i get my own personal cortana like ai. thatd be kinda cool
Anonymous No.725468349 [Report]
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Anonymous No.725468360 [Report]
>>725466684
Electric cars let me avoid gas stations and the browns that congregate there. I do agree that the touchscreen shit is gay.
Anonymous No.725468368 [Report]
>>725467689
AI tech is currently being inflated by an ouroborous of companies sinking money into each other to develop it, and failing to find a way to derive profit from it while ChatGPT encourages its users to kill themselves, but also Grok's owner is soon to be history's first trillionaire. So who can say?
Anonymous No.725468429 [Report] >>725468606
>>725467995
The only AA/niche game I know that really needs 32GB RAM is EUV.
Anonymous No.725468504 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
>sell ram and gpu for an easy profit
>rtx 5080 and go back to the 16gb of ram kit that I still have
Why shouldn't I do this?
Anonymous No.725468531 [Report] >>725468687
AI will collapse society not through wars and mass death but by tapping all energy sources to power it.
Anonymous No.725468534 [Report]
>>725468135
They're not that bad, but for God's fucking sake, put the damn climate control, lights and wiper controls on damn physical sticks and buttons.
Anonymous No.725468545 [Report]
>>725467995
I'll be able to run shit tier local AI better at least
Anonymous No.725468556 [Report]
>>725468286
the bubble will probably pop eventually but technology is here to stay, if people think AI slop will stop they are for a rude awakening, .com bubble popped, internet still changed the world
Anonymous No.725468606 [Report]
>>725468429
>really needs
lol
lmao
t. cruising on 16 with work on the second screen
Anonymous No.725468687 [Report]
>>725468531
we just need to tap human resources to power it
Anonymous No.725468854 [Report] >>725469095
>>725466025 (OP)
The price of ram in artificially inflated by AI data centers/ regular data centers. Give it 6 to 18 months and the price will go down. Also GPU manufacturers buy in such bulk and make such high margins that they aren't really effected by ram costs like regular consumers/retailers.
Anonymous No.725468963 [Report] >>725469097 >>725472047
I wish the west prioritized nuclear
Anonymous No.725469095 [Report] >>725469423
>>725468854
>Give it 6 to 18 months and the price will go down
same when GPU prices went down, oh wait
Anonymous No.725469097 [Report] >>725469463 >>725469719 >>725472039
>>725468963
I figure if the AI slop nonsense will have one positive it'll be that the US will invest more heavily in nuclear energy. Unfortunately we'll probably do it in some dumbass way.
Anonymous No.725469237 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
Built my high end PC in August for 2600 USD. Now its 3800 lmao
Anonymous No.725469258 [Report] >>725470217 >>725470890
>>725466025 (OP)
God damn it man. I should have built a new PC last year.
I'll pull the trigger on parts anyway. This shit is likely only getting worse.
Anonymous No.725469423 [Report] >>725469839
>>725469095
They've been msrp for months, retard. 5090 will increase though since nvidia's ending production.
Anonymous No.725469463 [Report] >>725469667
>>725469097
Private run nuclear plants here we fucking go.
Anonymous No.725469517 [Report] >>725469895
>>725466963
>bubble
>popping
It will never pop, because richoids believe that AI supremacy will allow them to control the world, and that is worth any price.
Anonymous No.725469562 [Report] >>725472721
You don't need more than 32GB of RAM
You don't need more than 16GB of VRAM
In fact, you might need less
Anonymous No.725469631 [Report]
im good for quite awhile so i'm not worried
Anonymous No.725469667 [Report]
>>725469463
Just sign into law that whoever presides over it is liable for public beheading if they decide to cut costs to make line go up and end up creating a disaster.
Anonymous No.725469719 [Report]
>>725469097
Even the japs fucked it up. Of course we'll do it in a dumbass way.
Anonymous No.725469801 [Report]
>tfw still ddr4 mobo
Anonymous No.725469839 [Report] >>725470478
>>725469423
>msrp
and GPU MSRP never went down from pre crypto boom levels
Anonymous No.725469862 [Report]
>>725466684
Smartphones are the exact moment when technology started being worse
Anonymous No.725469887 [Report] >>725470813
>>725466025 (OP)
I just checked amazon and i can buy 32gb of DDR5 @6000mhz ram for £150

What's the issue?
Anonymous No.725469895 [Report]
>>725469517
Peter Thiel has gone so far as to say that restricting AI will hasten the AntiChrist. Whether or not he believes the crap coming out of his mouth is questionable but that's how hard people like him are leaning in on it, all while building bunkers just in case shit goes sideways.
Anonymous No.725470182 [Report] >>725470745 >>725472316 >>725472430 >>725472795
Post your specs. Are you happy with your current PC specs? I'm just happy I dodged a bullet and built my PC right before AI ruined everything.
Anonymous No.725470217 [Report]
>>725469258
You probably should if you're thinking about it. I pulled the trigger earlier this year and I'm really fucking glad I did after seeing the new prices.
Anonymous No.725470478 [Report]
>>725469839
MSRP is the metric, and they used to be way above msrp. 5000 series partner cards were 25% higher than msrp at the beginning of the year.
Anonymous No.725470745 [Report] >>725471263
>>725470182
Happy with the build so far. I might kick myself over soon since I didn't choose a 7800x3d
Anonymous No.725470813 [Report]
>>725469887
Anonymous No.725470890 [Report] >>725471630 >>725471795
>>725469258
I'll second what the first guy said. I've been waiting for prices to go down for a while and they just keep going up. Early next year I'm just gonna bite the bullet, it'll hurt in the moment but when shit inevitably gets worse it'll numb the pain.
>Got a call while I was typing this
>Some AI pretending it's my car insurance company and asking me for personal information
God damn the future is lame.
Anonymous No.725471263 [Report]
>>725470745
The only thing I know is that the jump between the 7600X and the 9800X3D is filled with a bunch of minimal improvements, so you shouldn't really worry too much about it.
Anonymous No.725471276 [Report] >>725471439 >>725471810
Still on gtx 1080, see no reason to upgrade for a long time still. Not gonna waste my precious money when all the PC parts are so expensive
Anonymous No.725471439 [Report]
>>725471276
this nigga
Anonymous No.725471583 [Report] >>725471678
>>725466963
>bro just wait for the crypto bubble to pop lmao
>dude just wait for the covid tax to pop lmao
>senpaitchi-kun just wait for the AI bubble to pop lmao

Don't care, already bit the bullet 2 years ago and built my gayman PC because I knew shit would get worse
Anonymous No.725471630 [Report]
>>725470890
Summer's the best time to build a full system nowadays. Used to be November up until a few years ago, but no longer. It can sometimes still be a good time to pick up a part or 2 but that's about it.
Anonymous No.725471678 [Report] >>725471803 >>725472017
>>725471583
homie just wait for the $2k tariff dividend
Anonymous No.725471750 [Report]
give it to me straight, do I upgrade to a 5070 Ti now or do I call the rumor bluff, say it's a conspiracy to increase holiday sales, and that the super series is still coming?
Anonymous No.725471753 [Report] >>725471941 >>725472090
Im really glad i decided that i did need 64gb of ram in september for WAN video generation after all.
Anonymous No.725471772 [Report] >>725472258
>boughted a 9070 to hold me over until UDNA
>looks like I'll be holding on to it until UDNA2 or later
Well shoot.
Anonymous No.725471795 [Report]
>>725470890
Yeah I have the "lending" niggers doing this for the last few months. They had some girl (we need to use AI to find these pod people and flay them for serving the beast) read for 30 seconds and then they chop it up into 100 different variations with AI.
Except the faggots always send 41-47 second long messages you can mass delete them from a list instead of listening.
In hindsight the government really dropped the ball when it comes to spam calling and such. It has wasted SO much of their economic units time and no doubt 99% of "them" and their families are also getting 17 robo messages a day too so thats something at least, lmao. Almost all have regular phones and accounts more or less.
Anonymous No.725471803 [Report] >>725472126
>>725471678
you think trump will axtually give us gibs? well i guess his approval is mixed so maybe he will just to boost up his scores
Anonymous No.725471810 [Report] >>725472319
>>725471276
The Series 1000 Starter Pack:
>My GPU still runs everything "perfectly fine"
>I don't want to waste my money
>Just lower your settings bro
>I only play older games anyway
>Modern gaming is trash anyway
Anonymous No.725471829 [Report]
DDR4 PCIE3 bros eatin good.
Anonymous No.725471875 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
Good thing gaming is dying
Anonymous No.725471941 [Report] >>725471986
>>725471753
i decided the same thing, for the same purpose, at the same time. it's like we're brothers, my wan purposes are heavily aligned with gooning thoughever, which brings great shame.
Anonymous No.725471957 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
you know this happened once before only a few years ago when a factory got flooded. it eventually went back down to even lower than it was before it happened. took a couple years but it did.
Anonymous No.725471986 [Report]
>>725471941
lmao same.
Anonymous No.725472017 [Report] >>725472503
>>725471678
lol
Anonymous No.725472039 [Report]
>>725469097
>Unfortunately we'll probably do it in some dumbass way.
Yeah, and that's called lead times of 10-15 years from conception to connecting to the grid. Nuclear power isn't gonna bring any relief for a long time even if a serious effort to build more generation started right now.
Anonymous No.725472047 [Report]
>>725468963
how does my tv drink water
Anonymous No.725472090 [Report]
>>725471753
I considered 64GB but I was already on a tight budget so I stuck with 32GB, but I'll admit and say that generating AI porn has been looking more and more appealing as engines get better.
Anonymous No.725472126 [Report]
>>725471803
just like we got the doge dollars
Anonymous No.725472208 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
Entry level gfx cards no longer exist. Mid range now is what high end used to be. This hobby has been completely fucked by crypto, then by AI, and there's no coming back until there's some huge breakthrough that cheapens everything, which could take a long time.
Anonymous No.725472223 [Report] >>725472441 >>725472715
I'm so tired of these speculators ruining my hobby

First it was crypto with GPUs, and we went through 10 years of that bullshit jacking up GPU prices and creating shortages. Then, it was AI that made it twice as bad, and they're buying up every fucking last GPU and stick of RAM they can get their hands on.

We kept AMD and Nvidia alive and prosperous for decades and this is how they thank us. Without us they would have became defunct decades ago.
Anonymous No.725472258 [Report]
>>725471772
AMD will drop support before UDNA2 lmao
Anonymous No.725472316 [Report]
>>725470182
I'm playing mostly indie garbage anyway.
Anonymous No.725472319 [Report]
>>725471810
>Modern gaming is trash anyway
Well Vidya takes like 5-8 years to make now so I don't get the rush people have into having to get something better.
Anonymous No.725472358 [Report] >>725472450
>got 32gb 2x16 last year
>it has tripled in price
So I guess I'm not getting 2 more sticks like the original plan was. 32gb is enough right? Really sucks for the GPU refresh thoughbeit.
Anonymous No.725472385 [Report]
Why the fuck is life so nightmarish for us PC bros?
My life as a PC builder has been shit since bitcoin started to take off.
Anonymous No.725472404 [Report]
>>725466684
This, also violently kill everyone who wants to put screens in cars
Anonymous No.725472424 [Report] >>725472653
>>725466025 (OP)
who should I blame this time?
Anonymous No.725472430 [Report] >>725472535 >>725472582
>>725470182
I need 4070Ti Super but shit is sold everywhere and 5070 Supers are not coming.
Anonymous No.725472434 [Report]
>>725466025 (OP)
>5000 supers already cancelled
>5060 ti 16gb will soon be extinct

Grim. I'm glad I got my 5070 ti already.
Anonymous No.725472441 [Report]
>>725472223
They couldn't give less of a shit about their old userbase, they have their new base who buy the overpriced garbage they shit out without question. No corpo is your friend, never will be.
Anonymous No.725472450 [Report] >>725472763
>>725472358
>32gb is enough right?
The Chrome game always hungers for moar
Anonymous No.725472484 [Report]
>>725467689
100%
AI as it is now is at the upper end of its usefulness, and "AI" the idea is a buzzword companies are using to get cheap money from low information investors
remember a couple years ago when companies multiplied their estimated value by saying "blockchain"? same principle
will AI the technology ever go away entirely? no
but will AI lose its status as the miracle tech that can solve all problems? absolutely
Anonymous No.725472503 [Report]
>>725472017
I love how they keep saying no tax on overtime. Drag every single one of them through the streets and stone em.
Anonymous No.725472520 [Report] >>725472724
>>725467502
It's mostly Chinese immigrants buying up every last GPU for the consumer market and shipping them to China for upstarts and universities to buy.
Anonymous No.725472535 [Report] >>725472712
>>725472430
If that's true wouldn't screw over PS6 really hard?
Anonymous No.725472564 [Report]
>>725466684
Life is becoming more and more like Brazil. The movie but I guess the country too.
Anonymous No.725472582 [Report]
>>725472430
>AI profits
>no AI company has been profitable in the last 4 years
Anonymous No.725472585 [Report]
>>725466963
Prices are never going down.
AI will be pushed heavily because they want to be that way.
Anonymous No.725472607 [Report]
>>725467995
They won't.
Anonymous No.725472653 [Report]
>>725472424
anyone perpetuating the AI scam obviously

>how is it a scam?

I'll make it very easy to understand; any product or movement that is heavily backed by major corporations and CEOs (lots of money involved) is a pointed scam, fullstop. There is no argument to be made.
Anonymous No.725472712 [Report]
>>725472535
Sony is perfectly capable of screwing over the PS6 on their own.
Anonymous No.725472715 [Report]
>>725472223
Its not some speculators but most powerful companies colluding.
Anonymous No.725472719 [Report]
>>725467689
Probably, but shit is going to be a money machine for a while yet. My shares in Seagate are up 40% in the space of a month on the back of the AI datacentre demand for memory.
Anonymous No.725472721 [Report]
>>725469562
Today sure. When new gen of console trash drops in 2 years you will need that 16gb vram.
Anonymous No.725472724 [Report]
>>725472520
Holy boomer-brain
Anonymous No.725472763 [Report]
>>725472450
NTA, browsers eating RAM like candy has become a fact of life. What really bothered me was installing Signal RGB to control the few RGB I have on my PC only to find out that the program uses way more RAM than it should. I just stuck with Mystic Light and solid colors.
Anonymous No.725472795 [Report]
>>725470182
>MB: ASRock B850 LiveMixer WiFi
>RAM: 32GB
>CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X
>GPU: Hellhound 9070XT
I'm happy with my build
No issues with anything I've played