Thread 725483841

fuck you. I enjoyed the fuck out of it.

>>725483841 (OP)
gay

>>725483841 (OP)
Nice bro. Are you hyped about Fallout 4:, Anniversary Edition?

>>725484007
You mean the latest update that everybody disregarded and went back to their pre "Next Gen" build of the game?

I caught the slow down glitch so whenever I went through a door it took 10 minutes to load the new area. There is a fix but it's not straight forward. I liked it.

>>725484007
not OP, I am hyped for Switch 2 edition

>>725483841 (OP)
>Babies First Fallout
Figures, zoomer

>>725483841 (OP)
I like this game but this is what lead to the degradation of the series

>>725484007
>they keep giving fo4 random, pointless updates that kill all the mods
>completely kill any interest I ever get to try and go back to it
I don't know why the fuck they keep doing this other than god himself trying to stop me from touching this fucking shit ever again.

It was so bad I can't put my disgust into words.

>>725484579
That was Fallout 3.

>>725484727
mods are gay

I mean I liked the game. The glitch sucked it ruined it.

>>725483841 (OP)
pirated it
was my post breakup game
played it on surivival mode

it felt comforting

It was genuinely a really fun looter shooter.

Maybe i'm just getting older but every time I look at fallout 4 it all kind of blends into a brown mush that I can't make heads or tails of, it just is fucking mush.

>>725483841 (OP)
I don't even remember what I felt when watching the trailer or if I even caught the announcement trailer at the time. I still remember the E3 trailer for FO3, FNV, and even FNV's teaser vividly.
I didn't care to go back to see how the world was before the bombs fell, that juxtaposition wasn't interesting to me.
The concept of a fully voiced protagonist wasn't interesting to me.
My brother bought it and gave it to me with the PS4 back in the day but I didn't even want to play it, I unironically wanted to play Bloodborne over and over again instead.

>>725483841 (OP)
Fuck you too, shit eating casual

>>725483841 (OP)
>Quickloot
>Junk parts, mods and crafting
>Power armor and fusion cores
>General gameplay
Hey, not bad.
>Color scheme
>Locations
>companions
These could be better
>Quests
>Perk tree
>Dialogue
>DLCs
>>>Story
Fuck dude.

>>725486071
It's a nuclear wasteland though isn't it?

>>725486209
It's not the concept it's the game engine, low resolution blending mush textures that are popping in and out because I dared to do the grievous sin of looking too fast to the right

>>725486209
200 years after the fact. it would be lush and green

400 hours of rape/slavery mods. Never finished the garbage story.

mods fags did the anniversary eddition break any mods?

>>725483841 (OP)
So did I. I just also wish it had more diverse role playing options than
>heterosexual suburban widow(er) who was a male soldier or female lawyer obsessed with finding his/her son

>Trying to do a no death run
>Basically once I get leveled up I should be good
>Get to level 20, fast travel to some house
>In loading screen
>Hear 'whoosh' x5 times
>Load in
>Immediately murked
>turns out I got FT camped by super mutants who all fired RPGs during the loading screen
>Never touch FO4 again

>>725483841 (OP)
at least you didn't pick 76 for your flamewar thread

>>725483841 (OP)
>I TRANSHEART EATING SHIT
good for you son

>>725486209
They intended for the Commonwealth to be particularly fucked up, such that it is still a mess after so long, because the Institute has repeatedly sabotaged attempts at progress by releasing synths and mutants, along with the Glowing Sea sending out storms every now and then to kill everyone. However, they fumbled the everloving fuck out of that because there's almost zero mention of these things and most set pieces look like the bombs dropped a month ago with no evidence of scavengers having been through and tons of undisturbed pre-war relics and skeletons. I think the designers for different areas were given zero direction on the lore, or outright told to just ham it up and forget about making anything consistent with the timeline. Complete disaster of a game in the regard. This completely ignores the supreme fumbling after release by Pete "not interested" Hines basically telling lorefags to fuck off.

>>725485923
Nice. This is what games are meant to be first, comforting. I did the same thing after finishing military service

>>725487009
>I think the designers for different areas were given zero direction on the lore, or outright told to just ham it up and forget about making anything consistent with the timeline.
Considering Emil's sheer lack of interest in making something coherent, it was probably intentional.

>>725483841 (OP)
>They broke it again to add paid DLC (that repackages existing paid DLC)
>The paid DLC doesn't even work

>>725486209
There's three major real world "Nuclear Wasteland" examples, and none of them look like Fallout. Fallout's modeled like a Nevada desert testing ground facade.

>>725484727
You can just not update it man. It's better not to usually.

>>725484727
Because it's not Bethesda that decides (that would already be bad), it's Microsoft, whose current CEO is a jeet desperately trying to please his shareholders by using every short-term money-grabbing technique in the book. But when it comes to FO4, it's a shit game anyway so nothing of value was lost. You can mod better visuals into FNV, you can't mod a RPG into FO4. If you only care about the gameplay, there are tons of better games.

>>725486202
Exactly what's wrong with it.

Ok so it's a fictional nuclear wasteland for a comic book inspired game that has a sense of humour.

>>725486209
Not really. Fallout is post-post-apo, the entire premise of the games is seeing the various ways humanity reacts and adapts to this new world. This is what gives us so many factions and communities, meanwhile Bethesda's entire vision is "dude, shit is fucked bro!" everywhere. In a sense, Fallout 76 is the truest Bethesda vision of the universe, they want everyone to be dead, they want the game to be a lifeless wasteland full of nonsensical theme park attractions.

>>725483841 (OP)
Well done sar. Treat yourself with a fresh dung cake

>>725483841 (OP)
Fallout 4 was a good game
Fallout 4 was a shitty fallout game.

This statement is truth.

>>725489528
>Fallout 4 was a good game
Do you believe Skyrim was a good game?

>>725488448
Well, because otherwise it would be as if the nuclear war hadn't of happened. Similarly we're in a post - War of the Roses world, who knew? And FO4 isn't lifeless, but a nonsensical theme park is kind of what the game is all about.

>>725489581
Skyrim was a good game.
It was a passable Elder scrolls game.

Fallout 4 would have been lorded as one of the great games of the decade had it not had the fallout title slapped onto it. Its a great post apocolyptic shooter game, but a crappy fallout game.

Skyrim was and is a good game in the context of when it launched, it was just a meh elder scrolls game.

I do like FO4 but I kind of think these types of games are reaching the end of their lives. It's the whole quest thing, here's the main quest, here's the sub-quests. It needs a rethink.

>>725489709
>And FO4 isn't lifeless
I know, I didn't say it was, I said it's what Bethesda wants and what they did with FO76. They genuinely do not want to write characters, they only want setpieces, so a world with only simple robots to throw random nonsensical exposition to make normies go "wow that's cool" and not think about it is their dream.

Emil directly told us so, they hate writing any coherent world, they just want to make up "cool shit". Why are people living around a gigantic bomb in a crater? "It's cool shit dude". What's the deal with that ghoul kid in the fridgefor 200 years? "It's cool shit dude".

>>725489908
>Skyrim was a good game
Yes thank you that's all I needed to hear from you.

>>725483841 (OP)
I like the VR version :D

>>725484881
f4 is only playable with mods
even vanilla skyrim is more fun

>>725484727
I don't play FO4 with mods so not my problem.

>>725486071
It felt like that when I was 18 too tbqh

I legit can't enjoy vanilla fallout 4 but with the Horizon mod and a couple quest mods that expand underdeveloped areas it made me put 300 hours

bought it because it was $13 for the entire game 3 weeks ago
I was surprised they managed to write a villain even more retarded than the Enclave in 3

>>725485923
This game is really fun on survival.

>>725493127
>>725485923
This is pretty correct.
On survival mode, and every other hardcore mode you can find, and modded the game is fairly fun.

>>725483841 (OP)
Same. Its like the skyrim of the whole franchise.

So did the new update fuck anything?

>>725495151
The only thing I've noticed so far is that the new creation menu takes forever to load thumbnails.

>>725495151
All your mods
But at least the new stuff is pretty cool

>>725483841 (OP)
what went wrong?

>>725496441
It doesn't work at all. Still in the top 10 best-selling games on Steam right now lol

>>725483841 (OP)
I always felt like the hate for this was pretty forced. It's really just ok.

>>725496441
>update game
>money stolen

>>725483841 (OP)
Without mods its a piece of shit.
With mods it's one of my favourite games.

>>725483841 (OP)
fallout 4 is a very turn your brain off and left click type of game compared to 3 and new vegas
the kind of dad shit where you can walk towards a compass icon, kill a bunch of dudes, loot them and then walk in any direction and do the same thing over and over
ive tried playing fallout 4 a handful of times over the years and gave up out of boredom at a few very close parts of the main quest
>that bit where you take the detective to the subway station and you have to speech check that mobster dude
its like a 2v10 but somehow we won and the detective guy just walks back to the diamond city
>first time meeting the railroad in that underground bit where that weird bitch talks to you from across a drawbridge
lol
>that 10 minute sequence where youre in the dudes brain and seeing his entire childhood and none of it is skippable
fun
i dont think the game can really be improved substantially when the only replayability outside of the dad shit would be overhauling the entire map and story and so far no mod or collection of mods has been able to do that

Let me put it like this. My cousin who has downs syndrome was not able to get through Vault 101 in Fallout 3: he genuinely could not navigate it and got "stuck" there forever.

That same cousin beat Fallout 4 and all of its DLCs without issue and has the Platinum Trophy on PS5.

A game for downies.

>>725496634
It's exactly the same as Skyrim. A mediocre game with enormous potential. It's more hated because it came out after NV.
>>725496785
This

>>725497036
I also couldn't get past Vault 101 when I played for the first time because it's just garbage.

>>725497456
He couldn't open the Overseer's back door out of the vault even after talking to Amata over and over again with her outright telling him what to do.

>>725484727
they did the same thing with skyrim for over a decade because they hate mods

>>725497579
Your cousin sounds fucking awesome though

>>725497579
Oh, I think I remember that. You need to use a computer that looks like a prop. I play Fallout 3 extremely rarely and every time I forget about this shit. It's just bad design.

>>725497721
He's chill but he hugs very tight. Tard strength is real bros.

>>725496634
>>725497176
Nah, i feel like the hate toward 4 is much more warranted then hate toward Skyrim.
Skyrim aside, FO4 aside from graphics and mechanics of teh game like gun play and power armor, was a massive step back in every other way.
>Constantly fucking up the lore
>Almost ZERO role play elements
>Removal of traditional perk system
>Removal of skills
>Only a single SPECIAL Check in the entire game(That i can remember) Which was on the old ship you could repair a thing if your int was high enough vs going out and getting a replacement.
>Dialog options were monumentally worse, Yes, no, Sarcastic yes, More info
>Progress in the game felt like ass (LOL power armor in first 10 min)

>>725499209
Oh i forgot the other major thing that pisses me off with 4.
>Bethesda for got that weapon tech was up into the 80s and 90s not the fucking 30s
I hate that ever since 4, they forgot that weapons like the FAL, P90, Deagle, AK, FN2000 were all weapons that existed in fall out, not fucking lewis guns like wtf?!

>>725499209
Skyrim was even worse in this regard when compared to Morrowind and Oblivion. At least Fallout 4 added a few things compared to Fallout 3 like verticality, multiple factions, and more varied quests. Skyrim added shouts and removed way more than Fallout 4.

>>725500025
Like i said i dont wanna get into what skyrim did and did not do right.
But in terms of Fallout 4 it fucked up a lot of things with fallout lore and content. It was a great post apoc survival game, like a really great one, but man it was a really really bad falloutgame.

>>725496634
A lot of the hate is just from NVfags. Anybody else either likes it or thinks it's meh.

>>725500327
>it was a really really bad falloutgame
I think it was a better Fallout game than Fallout 3. At least it added something interesting to the world. I'm not really against factions and the general lore of Fallout 4 on a conceptual level. Fallout 3 on the other hand is complete rubbish with Enclave vs Bos with super mutants out the ass

>>725483841 (OP)
Decent game, especially if you get it cheap. The new update is pretty disappointing, though. Sure, the CC content is finally being offered for a "reasonable" price, but the vast majority of that content is made up of skins. Still a good thing to have because of the modular armor systems and potential settlement / player character roleplaying opportunities. But definitely boring. It's the sort of stuff that should have just been in the base game.

Really wish there had been more of the new CC content. The free Creation was kind of neat, at least.

>>725483930
Fpbp

>>725500427
>from NV
Or anyone that played Fallout 1,2 or even fucking 3.
Fallout four gutted any sense of role play.

>>725499209
>Only a single SPECIAL Check in the entire game
The counter to this is that they finally made Charisma not useless since all speech checks rely on it.

>>725502004
>The new update is pretty disappointing,
DESU all of the FO4 updates were disappointing we only got 2 real DLCs far harbor and Nuka world. All the other "DLC's" and ill use that term losely, were literally being done with mods before it came out.
Wasteland workshop, and the atomoton one was already shit that you could do via mods.
The vault one was OK

>>725502757
Yeah but it was easy to get max all specials stats so it did not really matter either lol.

>>725499209
>role playing
The writing and branching of quests is pretty shit. Fallout 4 gives you the opportunity to role play through settlements more than anything, but at the end of the day, you're playing with a dollhouse.
>Progress in the game felt like ass
Some of that is self-inflicted. I agree that it was dumb to hamfist a gameplay hook that early on in the story, but I never used that initiate set of armor after the quest. Leveled loot tables and crafting perks result in a fairly steady progression in power, otherwise.

>>725502847
they've been trying from every angle for a very long time to make paid mods a thing and it's not working
another reason on top of the pile for why i hate this company

>>725503005
>branching of quests is pretty shit
Way better than anything Bethesda has ever done before. It's clear that they tried to replicate New Vegas to the best of their ability.

>>725483841 (OP)
Yeah it was worth what I paid for it
;^)

>>725502847
>The vault one was OK
I liked some of the new settlement items, but doesn't Vault 88 break your game if you actually build inside it? There was a problem where interior cells could have the same coordinates, so placing items inside of interior settlements can fuck up the navmesh (and npc pathing) in other interior cells. Not sure if that was ever fixed.

>>725503140
For the main quest, yeah. Had a lot of moments in side quests where I would think "why wouldn't my character just do XYZ?". Diamond City Blues is a quest that comes to mind as being pretty complex for FO4 standards while also lacking branches that you would reasonably expect to be there.

>>725503079
And whats funny about that to, is that there are people out there who know the game bryo/creation engine better then some of the top devs at bethesda because they have been working in the guts of the game bryo engine since day one across multiple fucking games. They are also competing with people making shit for this game out of passion, not a paycheck.
Its a fight they will never win.
>>725503251
I never had that issue but i would not be surprised at all if that was the case. Vault 88 was OK, but my issues with it was i hated the fucking location of it with a passion.

Fallout 4 was a really good post apoc survival game espically with mods but its was just such a meh fallout game.

>>725503448
>why wouldn't my character just do XYZ?
Like what? There are a lot of moments in Fallout 4 where you can do something that the game doesn't tell you about. People still believe that most NPCs in the game are unkillable when that's far from the truth

>>725484727
>all mods
>just script extender shit
>mostly the ui mod which is the first thing people notice
>now all mods are dead
F4SE will update soon and your fucking menu mod will too. Happens every fucking time and people scream. Then they beg Bethesda for more updates because of all the bugs only they experience after jamming 232 mods together without checking what they do.

>>725483930
Gotem

>>725505183
You did not fucking gettem

>>725505231
>You did not fucking gettem

It's free

>>725484727
Going for the Talewords approach. If you drop enough updates the modding scene will eventfully die. Allowing you to move in the monopolize it for paid modding.

>>725505427
>It's free
Would've been free anyway if Todd and co didn't decide to go full longnose.

>>725505593
No, it was originally made with the intention of selling

>>725484727
>fo4 speedrun.jpg

>>725505740
It's this line of those for why most stuff today is getting behind a goywall. Can't go anywhere without someone looking to shake you down for pennies.

>>725505843
I'm not trying to say it's good, I'm just stating the facts.
Bethesda doesn't deserve any money and Fallout 4 was the last thing I bought from them. I didn't even buy the DLCs, I just pirated them, and I'm going to pirate all these CCs and Fallout 76 stuff too. I don't understand this whole ‘we should ignore it because it's greedy’ stance when you can easily find it for free without any problems. It's just more stuff for my modlist.

>>725483841 (OP)
Kek is it even playable these days?
You’re supposed to buy some creations, dick around for 45 minutes and then not play it for another year, right Todd?

>>725483841 (OP)
I did too, when I was 10 years old.

Well, I think they fixed the ultrawide shit finally, so that's nice. Too bad none of the mods are going to be updated to use this version anytime soon.