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Anonymous No.725486781 [Report] >>725487148 >>725489782 >>725489951 >>725490153 >>725490249 >>725490317 >>725490565 >>725490728 >>725492691 >>725492864 >>725496250 >>725496420 >>725496603 >>725497776 >>725498271 >>725498821 >>725499101 >>725499909 >>725502964 >>725503214 >>725503294 >>725504626 >>725507449 >>725508672 >>725509605 >>725509646 >>725509712 >>725510143
steambros does this mean we don't own our games?
Anonymous No.725486961 [Report]
Fuck off templateposter
Anonymous No.725486997 [Report]
it mindbroke you
Anonymous No.725487123 [Report] >>725490672 >>725509542
>Every time you're dumb enough to buy a game on GOG
>They pay a retard to make a thread like this
Anonymous No.725487148 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
what the fricks i payed for those 1s and 0s!!!!
Anonymous No.725487605 [Report] >>725490268
The horror of a game maybe disappearing from your library of hundreds of games a decade later. The odds anyone will be impacted in any meaningful way is negligible, not like you can resell digital anyways. Likely by the time things vanish most won’t care and it’s only a fringe demo that cares about preservation as only weirdos want to play old shit.
Anonymous No.725489782 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Can we stop making this same post every single day. If you hate digital that much just buy physical copies, most people are just fine with having a license that will last for the majority of your life.
Anonymous No.725489951 [Report] >>725490565 >>725492691
>>725486781 (OP)
Try checking out the TOS for Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, GOG and Epic. You don't own shit anywhere.
Anonymous No.725490153 [Report] >>725503294
>>725486781 (OP)
You never owned shit anywhere to begin with cucksole retard
Anonymous No.725490249 [Report] >>725490956
>>725486781 (OP)
retard-kun... when you buy a cd you also buy the licence, they could technicaly found out the guy who own the licence of the game you pirate and sue him for billions of $
Anonymous No.725490268 [Report]
>>725487605
shalom, rabbi
Anonymous No.725490317 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Which digital storefront doesn't say this? Even gog, although they let you have complete control with off-line, drm-free installers, say this. Cue the consolekeks thinking they own their partially-on-disc/cart games. You try to help them understand, but they can't. They just make up random excuses.
Anonymous No.725490565 [Report] >>725490956 >>725493437
>>725489951
>>725486781 (OP)
You don't own the game when you buy physical either, it's always a license.
I mean obviously you do have it, it's just that you don't own the copyright and other stuff like that. It's there to cover their ass legally
Anonymous No.725490672 [Report] >>725497216 >>725497693 >>725505129
>>725487123
You own nothing
Anonymous No.725490728 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
what platform do you use op
Anonymous No.725490956 [Report] >>725492484 >>725492691 >>725493463 >>725497654
>>725490249
>>725490565
The difference is steam can take away your game anytime and you have to connect to the internet to play it(lmao)
Anonymous No.725492484 [Report] >>725492691 >>725512340
>>725490956
>The difference is steam can take away your game anytime
No, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo can also ban your physical games from being accepted by their respective consoles, whereas Steam can't do anything to any game I've downloaded to my PC and cracked.
The real difference is that they can also brick your consoles, so not only do you not own your games but you also don't own your hardware.
>you have to connect to the internet to play it(lmao)
You're demonstrating something interesting that always occurs in this type of discussion, which is that is that while most PC gamers have extensive experience with console gaming, console gamers have zero actual experience with PC gaming.
Anonymous No.725492691 [Report] >>725493043
>>725486781 (OP)
>>725489951
gog scares and confuses the dicksucking americuck.
>>725490956
gog can't
>>725492484
your picrel is your own fault. use gog.
Anonymous No.725492864 [Report] >>725493396 >>725503808 >>725509942
>>725486781 (OP)
So what do you want people to do?
If they stop using steam, is there a different platform they should be using? Almost nobody sells physical PC games anymore, so I assume you want them to switch to a different digital platform.
Are you also going to pull the 'vote with your wallet' shit and believe that you could somehow bring physical back if you can just make enough /v/ threads to convince several hundred million people to never buy digital? Because that's what it'd take.
Anonymous No.725493043 [Report] >>725493568 >>725503393
>>725492691
>your picrel is your own fault. use gog.
Can't use GOG on Playstation, sorry anon.
Anonymous No.725493396 [Report] >>725493965 >>725494014
>>725492864
>So what do you want people to do?
I want people to do better. First of all, update the fucking law to the 2025 and ancient boomer cuckery.
>If they stop using steam, is there a different platform they should be using?
Yes. No platform. So like GoG. A storefront with an OPTIONAL launcher, but you just get your game installers just like you did with dvds, cds, floppy, etc.
>Almost nobody sells physical PC games anymore
It doesn't exist. It's still digital, just on a portable drive. You can put all of your gog installers on a flash drive and call it physical media, if you want.
>so I assume you want them to switch to a different digital platform.
Nah. Cucks can continue using Steam. At end of the day, it doesn't matter much, tbqh. Everybody chooses whatever they want.
>Are you also going to pull the 'vote with your wallet' shit
It's too late for that. We're adults. Some of us even have full time jobs. We have to change the fucking law. Mostly to preserve games and really cement that "owned copy for personal use" thing, like EU does.
>believe that you could somehow bring physical back
you don't have to. People who care for that shit usually are adults, like me, with resources. So we build our own PCs, home servers, buy a NAS, etc, you name it. We have backups of our games and mods on multiple drives, so we'll never lose them.
>Because that's what it'd take.
Nah, you're wrong fags. Average gamer is like 36 years old or something. It's time for the law to change. Industry will follow, because it has no other choice.
Or just be an oldfag playing, enjoying, and hoarding (old) games, and keep them on your drives and backup drives.
Anonymous No.725493437 [Report] >>725493739
>>725490565
They maintain the right to delete them from your libraries, as was the case of Sony's delisted-movie fiasco (Discovery and StudioCanal), where they also deleted them from your library.
Anonymous No.725493463 [Report]
>>725490956
>you have to connect to the internet to play it
thats just wrong though, if you cant play a game online its the developers fault not Valve's
Anonymous No.725493568 [Report]
>>725493043
>Playstation
why would you chose to eat shit in the first place?
Anonymous No.725493739 [Report]
>>725493437
Probably has something to do with legal stuff, like what if the company goes bankrupt, they can't provide the servers to be up forever.
Anonymous No.725493965 [Report] >>725494439
>>725493396
And what exactly is it, do you think, about GOG's marketing that works so successfully at tricking people like yourself into believing that there is a significant difference between a DRM free GOG "installer" and a DRM free Steam game that you can launch from anywhere without even running Steam? Would you also feel that archiving and compressing the DRM free Steam game's installation folder magically makes you own the game more?
Anonymous No.725494014 [Report] >>725494439
>>725493396
1: GoG is a digital distribution platform. If you're smart and keep all of your games backed up on a physical drive then you'll be okay but GoG is just as capable as steam of deleting your account and taking all your downloads with it.
2: discouraging people from using steam and amending the law are two completely different things.
Obviously like any sane person I want something like the best possible outcome from SKG, where it's just straight-up illegal to steal people's digital purchases. But making threads every single day about steam specifically does not give me the notion that this is about digital downloads but instead, you know, steam.
That said, I live in the US and I'm not a plutocrat so I get literally no say in legal matters. You can call that 'cucked' or whatever, but it's just the truth. Short of doing funny illegal minecraft things, you have no power over the government as an individual here.
Anonymous No.725494439 [Report] >>725494882
>>725493965
you made no sense. probably because you don't know the definitions of words.
>>725494014
>Obviously like any sane person I want something like the best possible outcome from SKG, where it's just straight-up illegal to steal people's digital purchases
right. this, for starters. GoG as mentioned above already can't remove what you have purchased from you, because you simply download your legal copy of an installer and that's it.
Anonymous No.725494882 [Report] >>725495906
>>725494439
>you made no sense. probably because you don't know the definitions of words.
Do you? What do you think "DRM free" means? What exactly do you think an "installer" is?
Anonymous No.725494994 [Report]
just a reminder OP spams these threads because he got VAC banned from CSGO and lost his inventory
Anonymous No.725495906 [Report] >>725496085 >>725498135
>>725494882
>Do you?
Yes.
>What do you think "DRM free" means?
it has nothing to do with licensing, you retarded ass faggot.
>What exactly do you think an "installer" is?\
AI has the answer to this too: An installer is a program that helps you set up software on a computer, guiding you through the installation process.
Again, you're a fucking shiteating retard, who is trying to argue some irrelevant made up bullshit. You don't even know/understand what the ownership of something is.
Worse still, you don't even understand what people are arguing for and against here in the first place.
Anonymous No.725496085 [Report]
>>725495906
>AI
ah, a jeet
sorry, I thought I was arguing with another human being
Anonymous No.725496250 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
>download
>install
>turn off internet
I only let my game pc talk to my download pc so it only updates when I choose
Anonymous No.725496420 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
It literally says a licence comes with the purchased product. You bought, and own your games.
Steam can't legally remove a functional game from your account anyway
Anonymous No.725496603 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
yes, i've been buying games on steam for longer than you've been alive
i am aware that i have purchased licenses
i do not care
we have this thread every other day, which i do care about
please kill yourself
Anonymous No.725497216 [Report]
>>725490672
Neither do you.
Anonymous No.725497654 [Report]
>>725490956
you have way more control over your games on steam than shartendo when DRM is literally built into the disk and console itself. You can't mod or copy your games. 1% of tendies actually mod or try to circumvent drm on consoles, while 50% of steam users mod their games.

If your switch breaks, the only way to preserve your games on them is to move it to pc.
Anonymous No.725497693 [Report]
>>725490672
>you will own nothing and be happy
This is true, since you "own" your games and you bitch and moan rather than enjoy yourself. I don't "own" mine and I play games.
Anonymous No.725497776 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
>steambros does this mean we don't own our games?
yes
just like you don't own them on
>gog
>epic
>playstation
>xbox
>nintendo
and so on
Anonymous No.725498135 [Report] >>725498613
>>725495906
>it has nothing to do with licensing, you retarded ass faggot.
Good job anon, but can you now tell me what you think it means?
>AI has the answer to this too:
Right, so you didn't know what it meant, you had to ask the AI for help.
Now that you know, can you ask your AI what the meaningful difference is between a game installer and an installed game, Rajesh?
Anonymous No.725498271 [Report] >>725498613 >>725503458
>>725486781 (OP)
Hate to break it to you dipshit, but even if you buy physical media you don't "own" the game. Its always been a limited use license
Anonymous No.725498613 [Report] >>725498892
>>725498135
>retard can't into an argument
many such cases
>>725498271
they're imbeciles, don't waste your time in an attempt to explain the difference to them.
Anonymous No.725498821 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
you're more likely to lose your physical license(which consoles are doing away with anyway) or your console malfunction over digital games suddenly disappearing.

you can crack digital games on pc easily and make 100 copies of them if you're some kind of hoarder. All my friends who had older consoles like the n64 never remembered to keep them.
Anonymous No.725498892 [Report] >>725499274
>>725498613
>retard can't into an argument
>many such cases
Yeah, they usually have to ask AI for help.
Anonymous No.725499101 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Normally not, but if you drop a steam emulator in the folder, you capture the game.
Anonymous No.725499274 [Report] >>725499546 >>725500753
>>725498892
it is time to hang up the dilator. AI is the future. You are not the future. You're not different from any other animal on this planet. You're not even any different from your straight parents, who thought that the computers will not calculate and translate for people. who thought that the internet will not be a place to get information from and learn things. you're the same retarded caveman, who wants to hit AI with a club, because you're a drooling imbecile.
This is further highlighted by the fact, that you don't even know the difference between licensing, onwership of the trademark, and ownership of a copy, which are 3 different things. You're just an idiot.
Anonymous No.725499546 [Report]
>>725499274
You will be under the boot of AI.
AI can do what you ask it to do, but if you have shit ideas and is only motivated by politics and "console wars", you will never able to produce anything worthy.
It's not just about skill.
We had a whole world war because it was not just about skill.
Anonymous No.725499909 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
>pc chads own their pcs and crack their own games without anyone doing anything
>tendies don't even own their own console.
>try to do anything and nintendo will brick it
Anonymous No.725500753 [Report]
>>725499274
>AI is the future.
AI may be the future, but ideally that future won't be filled with people who are so retarded that they have to ask AI to explain what words such as "installer" and "DRM free" mean.
Anonymous No.725502873 [Report]
>want to enjoy some super metroid romhacks
>go to nintendo
>can only rent super metroid from NSO, don't even have access to the local files, console gets bricked if I try to hack it

>go to pc
>download metroid rom from website
>download romhack
>enjoy

hmmm....
Anonymous No.725502964 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
every digital store is like this
Anonymous No.725503214 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Steam being the only store that gives illiterates a one-sentence summary doesn't mean that other stores don't have the same shit in their full user agreements.
Anonymous No.725503294 [Report] >>725503409 >>725503804 >>725504196 >>725504540 >>725504784
>>725486781 (OP)
>>725490153
Console players can sell their game discs after they have completed it, can steamcucks do that?
Anonymous No.725503393 [Report]
>>725493043
have you tried not being a consolecuck?
Anonymous No.725503409 [Report] >>725503542
>>725503294
>i'm so poor that i need to sell my game to gamestop for $5
damn that sucks
Anonymous No.725503458 [Report]
>>725498271
But you can sell it or lend it to anyone you like, does steam allow this?
Anonymous No.725503542 [Report] >>725503716
>>725503409
>getting money back that you paid out originally makes you poor
babbies first economics
Anonymous No.725503716 [Report] >>725504037
>>725503542
>being unable to afford to actually keep your games makes you poor
yes
Anonymous No.725503804 [Report]
>>725503294
video games aren't worth anything when everyone in the world has access to the same 5000 game stores to get cheap games from
Anonymous No.725503808 [Report] >>725504784
>>725492864
I should be able to resell my digital games
simple as
Anonymous No.725504037 [Report] >>725504152 >>725504210 >>725504496
>>725503716
>unable to afford
Nobody said this though
I won't be playing a game again after I 100% it so why would I want it hanging around? I can just put it on ebay and get most, all or maybe more money back
Anonymous No.725504152 [Report] >>725504316
>>725504037
>your taste in games is so bad that you don't want a keepsake of the game you paid money for
Anonymous No.725504196 [Report] >>725504316
>>725503294
Why are you selling your game unless it's garbage?
Anonymous No.725504210 [Report]
>>725504037
>buy spiderman off ebay for 8
>get the plat
>put it back on ebay
>it sells for 9.50
>someone literally paid me 1.50 to play spiderman
Anonymous No.725504242 [Report]
yeo another pirat_nation thread
Anonymous No.725504316 [Report] >>725504357 >>725504496 >>725504723 >>725504941
>>725504152
>>725504196
Have you gigacoping steamcucks seen the state of the gaming industry? What fucking games are worth having as a "keepsake" lmaoooo
Anonymous No.725504357 [Report] >>725504512 >>725504645
>>725504316
Then why would you buy them in the first place?
Anonymous No.725504496 [Report] >>725504619
>>725504037
>>725504316
Have you ever really never replayed a game before?
Anonymous No.725504512 [Report] >>725504562 >>725504723 >>725506434
>>725504357
I want the plat. And I got it. Game over
Anonymous No.725504540 [Report] >>725504756
>>725503294
I can sell my game discs, but I'm not stupid enough to buy games I won't want to keep
Anonymous No.725504559 [Report] >>725504831
Who would you even sell your games to? Anyone who wants cheap games will go to key sites, is already using family share, will pirate, or will wait for a sale which between all the stores you can buy games from is every day. Old de-listed games are free from abandonware sites.
Anonymous No.725504562 [Report] >>725504756
>>725504512
Then the game is worth keeping since you wanted to invest all that time into it.
Anonymous No.725504619 [Report] >>725504723
>>725504496
Not if I already have the plat, I've played PS3 games on PS4/5 to get the plat again
Anonymous No.725504626 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Anonymous No.725504645 [Report] >>725504693
>>725504357
because i'm not poor so $80 means nothing to me
Anonymous No.725504693 [Report]
>>725504645
So why would you need to sell it, unless you were a poorfag who desperately needed the money?
Anonymous No.725504723 [Report] >>725509227
>>725504316
>>725504512
>>725504619
Is this a zoomer thing? Do zoomers play video games to get achievements on their console and that's it?
Anonymous No.725504756 [Report] >>725504797 >>725504815 >>725504941 >>725505062
>>725504540
>>725504562
But the game has nothing more to offer me since I already 100% it. I'm already onto the next game and the next platinum
Anonymous No.725504784 [Report]
>>725503294
PC users can alter their games in any way they like. Can consolecucks?
>>725503808
Wasn't there supposed to be a new law a few years back allowing digital game resales?
Anonymous No.725504797 [Report] >>725504942
>>725504756
>don't ask questions, just consoom product and get excited for next product
Anonymous No.725504815 [Report] >>725504942
>>725504756
So you didn't have fun playing the game, yet you played it to completion. Interesting....
Anonymous No.725504831 [Report] >>725504947
>>725504559
Loads of bidders on ebay
Anonymous No.725504941 [Report] >>725505062 >>725505064
>>725504316
The old games that don't suck
>>725504756
Maybe if you didn't nolife achievementwhore you wouldn't get burned out on your games
Anonymous No.725504942 [Report]
>>725504797
What questions would I be asking?
>>725504815
>So you didn't have fun playing the game
Source?
Anonymous No.725504947 [Report] >>725505152
>>725504831
>ebay
Yeah, let's trust a bunch of scammers and retards who will sell you garbage in a box.
Anonymous No.725505062 [Report] >>725505235
>>725504756
>>725504941
What if a game doesn't have trophies? Do you refuse to play it?
Anonymous No.725505064 [Report] >>725505360 >>725505892 >>725506179
>>725504941
>NOOOOOOO you can't enjoy the games the way YOU want! You have to do it the way I WANT
Anonymous No.725505129 [Report]
>>725490672
I own access to any game on gog at any time whatsoever through other means
Anonymous No.725505152 [Report] >>725505369
>>725504947
ebay literally refunds any damaged or incorrect items for free. You're creating problems in your mind that don't actually exist
Anonymous No.725505158 [Report]
If I can't keep a back up of it on a hard drive I don't need it, it's pretty simple.
Anonymous No.725505235 [Report] >>725505285
>>725505062
I probably wouldn't bother to play it unless it's something really spectacular
Anonymous No.725505285 [Report] >>725505489
>>725505235
Why?
Anonymous No.725505334 [Report] >>725505969
Is this the steam schizo thread?
Anonymous No.725505360 [Report] >>725505727
>>725505064
Enjoy it however you want, but the way I see it you weren't enjoying it if you lose all motivation to play as soon as you achieve a predetermined goal. You're only wasting your own time
Anonymous No.725505369 [Report] >>725505594 >>725505801 >>725506659
>>725505152
>good luck demanding a refund if you're sold a counterfeit, and the guy runs off with your money.
Anonymous No.725505445 [Report]
ummm gogbros? what do we do about this?
Anonymous No.725505489 [Report]
>>725505285
No plat to aim for
Anonymous No.725505495 [Report]
Technically you don't own your cock. Think about it. You just licensed it from your parents' genes.
Anonymous No.725505580 [Report] >>725505892
>there are "people" on this board who refuse to play games released on consoles older than the 360 because they don't have achievements
Imagine going back in time and telling /v/ that the board would become infested with these kinds of "people".
Anonymous No.725505594 [Report]
>>725505369
I just bought a rare light novel series on ebay and this terrifies me. i'd be out of $300 bucks if it turns out to be a fake
>some faggots in malasia are copying an out of print book and selling it for cheap
>scared someone in the US bought it, then is reselling these counterfeits at normal price
Anonymous No.725505727 [Report] >>725505807
>>725505360
No, that wrong. The plat is like a jigsaw puzzle, you put each piece (trophy) into it until you complete it. I doubt people put together whole jigsaws, then break it up once it is finished and instantly start putting it together again, wouldn't you want a new jigsaw that you haven't experienced before?
Anonymous No.725505801 [Report] >>725506092
>>725505369
You don't need luck, just file a complaint with ebay with the evidence your order was wrong. It's easy
Anonymous No.725505807 [Report] >>725505995
>>725505727
Ok but you should understand that you're talking to people who have played video games since before achievements were a thing.
Anonymous No.725505892 [Report] >>725506072
>>725505580
see
>>725505064
Anonymous No.725505969 [Report] >>725506065
>>725505334
And to think this evolved into the ultimate slop machine or something.
Anonymous No.725505995 [Report]
>>725505807
Yeah I have too, but I was more easily amused back then and there wasn't so much choice
Anonymous No.725506065 [Report] >>725506490
>>725505969
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME
Anonymous No.725506072 [Report] >>725506179
>>725505892
lol people like you complain about a lack of "gatekeeping" when you're the perfect example of why a lack of gatekeeping is bad
Anonymous No.725506092 [Report] >>725506253 >>725506659
>>725505801
>just trust the greedy website that profits off of purchases
Anonymous No.725506179 [Report] >>725506402
>>725506072
Your whole """argument""" is just this >>725505064
Anonymous No.725506253 [Report] >>725506768 >>725506980
>>725506092
Again, you're just inventing problems in your head that don't exist
Anonymous No.725506402 [Report] >>725506696
>>725506179
and you're mad because you know he's right.
Anonymous No.725506434 [Report] >>725506930
>>725504512
How are you choosing what 'plat' to pursue then
Obviously there are so many games out there that you can only feasibly get all the achievements in a select few, so how are you choosing them if not by the game's quality
Anonymous No.725506490 [Report]
>>725506065
*explodes into latent space goo*
Anonymous No.725506659 [Report] >>725506768
>>725505369
>>725506092
You're such an insipid fucking mongoloid ape, ebay has always had one of the strongest customer protection systems on the net.
Anonymous No.725506696 [Report]
>>725506402
I'm not mad at all because his mong opinions are irrelevant
Anonymous No.725506768 [Report] >>725506940
>>725506253
>>725506659
They literally allow the sale of illegal contraband and things that could get you fined and arrested. Sorry if I don't trust their stupid asses.
Anonymous No.725506930 [Report] >>725508579
>>725506434
I like all sorts of games, I reasearch numerous games before deciding which one to start
>only feasibly get all the achievements in a select few
What do you mean?
Anonymous No.725506940 [Report]
>>725506768
Just because they're in a constant war with black market sellers doesn't mean you aren't gonna get your money back.
Anonymous No.725506980 [Report] >>725508669
>>725506253
Problems that don't exist like losing my steam games?
Anonymous No.725507449 [Report] >>725507535
>>725486781 (OP)
How come jews want to own steam and make it public instead of private? This is what they do. Tarnish the name and buy up the scraps at a low price. Just like burned lands in California. How compelling.
Anonymous No.725507535 [Report]
>>725507449
This actually is just some schizo who got VAC banned on steam and complains about it every day with threads, we mostly just come in here to laugh at him.
Anonymous No.725508579 [Report] >>725509707
>>725506930
I obviously mean that there are so many games by now with such significant time investments required to get all of their achievements and more coming out regularly that it is impossible to complete them for more than a small fraction
Anonymous No.725508669 [Report]
>>725506980
What's that got to do with ebay? Can you sell steam games on ebay like you can console games?
Anonymous No.725508672 [Report] >>725508770
>>725486781 (OP)
>Console makers hate your guts, can remotely deactivate your console forever, revoke games with no way to play them afterwards, etc
>Steam hates your guts, can ban you from steam and the games forever, lol you can just install DRM-bypasses and play them anyways
That's the difference.
With steam you ultimately have control. Consoles? No control.
Anonymous No.725508770 [Report] >>725508816
>>725508672
>can remotely deactivate your console forever, revoke games with no way to play them afterwards, etc
This is illegal outside of Burgerstan
Anonymous No.725508816 [Report] >>725509258
>>725508770
>This is illegal outside of Burgerstan
Literally legal anywhere, you're using their services and they can cut it off anytime they want.
Anonymous No.725509227 [Report] >>725510572
>>725504723
I’m 44 and don’t revisit games much once completed unless it’s a service game that has new content. Hardly just a youth thing, more what you are playing for. If it’s the story there’s not much incentive to replay unless there’s multiple endings.

Play and have fun, only you dictate what’s fun
Anonymous No.725509258 [Report] >>725511108
>>725508816
No, bricking your console and taking away games you paid for is literally illegal in Europe
Anonymous No.725509542 [Report] >>725509820 >>725510079
>>725487123
You dont own your games on GOG either. You are still renting a license which is immoral and evil for something you pay for your hard earned money that you spent labor on.

For all of human history it was and still is agreed upon if you pay someone for a product whether it be food, tools, etc and you keep it permanently, you own it.

This is not the same as renting like a horse carriage ride, uber, movie play or handyman work.

Copyright law makes it so licenses(renting) can sell the idea and market it as "buying" essentially saying you own it forever and permanent without saying you do. Yet you don't own the right to do shit with your the product you payed for with your hard earned money. That's wrong. You can't have it both ways.

You either buy it and its permanent OR you rent it and its temporary.

Also copying is not theft, the only law you are breaking is copyright infringement.

A game copy can't be stolen. For people who never had the money they were never going to pay for it anyways, just like its not illegal for someone to hate grocery chains, use and plant seeds (copy) to not pay the grocery store for apples/oranges to eat. They still have to store the fruit and tend the crop to get it themselves but its not theft just because the grocery store could potentially lose out on sales that never existed.

But if you steal a physical item someone has one less. What makes something theft and something not is whether you are taking someones original property and leaves them with one less.

Also just because something is digital doesn't mean it can't be stolen legally. For example, if you take bitcoin or crypto from someone they have one less and lost their original property, that's why it is theft even though its digital. Copying can never be theft because it is infinite and only potential that wasn't guaranteed.
Anonymous No.725509605 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Yes, but that's ok since Lord Gaben is the exception....OK???
Anonymous No.725509646 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
>Continue coping
Anonymous No.725509707 [Report]
>>725508579
There are large amounts of games I have no interest in so no time needed at all for those plats. Some people have 500+ plats already
Anonymous No.725509712 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
Just because I put my cock in your ass temporarily doesn't mean you own it. The only thing you get to keep is The Disease. What the fuck is wrong with zoomers, baka
Anonymous No.725509767 [Report]
You never did.
Anonymous No.725509820 [Report]
>>725509542
>blah blah blah blah
nigger shut the fuck up.
download the game on steam OR gog, crack it if its steam, and save it as your own permanent copy using physical media or on drives if you fucking want.

YOU bear the responsibility of preserving the integrity of YOUR games YOU OWN on places like steam and GOG.
Anonymous No.725509942 [Report]
>>725492864
You never owned games anyways regardless, and if developers take away licenses your money is stolen which is wrong. I recommend people pirate.

Either the US updates copyright law where it says you are allowed own the product and copy it infinitely and you can share it if you buy it with your hard earned money, or people will keep pirating.

Remember when movies used to be physical and at least you still owned the discs? Now everything is streaming service and now you rent everything because physical movies went away with hard earned money you work for.

It is morally and correct to pirate if buying isn't stealing.

Here are some resources below you can pirate with and get the majority of games online

fitgirl-repacks.site
steamrip.com
gog-games.to
rutracker.org
Anonymous No.725510079 [Report] >>725510909
>>725509542
>just like its not illegal for someone to [...] use and plant seeds (copy
sweet summer child
Anonymous No.725510143 [Report]
>>725486781 (OP)
game ownership stopped being a priority to me when i stopped buying physical games and learned pretty much every game ever made is available on piratebay if i'm really *that* pressed about having a forever-copy.
Anonymous No.725510572 [Report]
>>725509227
I have plenty of games that I've sunk many hours into out of enjoyment for their base gameplay, that I know I can always come back to and sink several more into, that I WILL want to come back to, the idea that one of those games could one day become unplayable forever is unreal to me
Anonymous No.725510909 [Report] >>725511574 >>725512240
>>725510079
That's just monsanto seeds that can be patented and it shows the hypocrisy of patent and copyright law. Thats why nobody in the world follows US law LOL.

Its not illegal to grow an apple tree in your backyard even if you use monsanto seeds which are "illegal", just like piracy isn't "illegal" because you can pirate at home and nobody will enforce copyright. If it can't be enforced effectively, it is defacto legal.

Its not theft either way to copy something is my point.

Also the US government and america as a country won't exist in its current form in 20 years, So no one really cares anyways what big corpos think or the corrupt old bones US congress thinks.
Anonymous No.725511108 [Report] >>725511228
>>725509258
>No, bricking your console and taking away games you paid for is literally illegal in Europe
So is genocide, but lol look what's happening anyways!
Anonymous No.725511228 [Report] >>725513261
>>725511108
What megacorp can you issue massive fines to for genocide?
Anonymous No.725511574 [Report] >>725511826 >>725512240
>>725510909
If it can't be enforced effectively, it is defacto legal.
That's not how the law works.
>Its not theft either way to copy something is my point.
Your point is powerless against copyright law.
Anonymous No.725511826 [Report] >>725512240
>>725511574
No, the people decide the law, that's literally the point of the US and people say copyright law is wrong. Thats why the US will collapse.

Also, most of the world doesn't follow US law or care about entertainment being free for poor kids who aren't multi millionaires or six figure salary jobs like is expected in america. America is evil and thats why it will be collapsed and destroyed.
Anonymous No.725512240 [Report]
>>725511826
>>725511574
>>725510909
This this and this.

>want to enjoy the original SNES version of Mega Man X3, due to fun romhacks exclusive to that version
>Can't obtain it legally because it costs 700 dollars due to extreme scarcity
>only alternative is to pirate it
>I COULD pay for the Mega Man X Legacy collection to legally compensate Capcom for the game, but I'm not allowed to rip the rom from the game or mod it because copyright law says I'm only licensing the game and am not allowed to modify it for personal use

This joke of a law should be rescinded.
Anonymous No.725512340 [Report] >>725514221
>>725492484
I know Steam does the same thing but don't they give you like a whole week?
Anonymous No.725513261 [Report]
>>725511228
The UN?
Anonymous No.725514221 [Report]
>>725512340
Steam randomly breaks offline for multiple reasons due to the way the steam client works, and on things like windows 7 or linux there may be more bugs. When it does update checks it can kick you out and you'll have to relogin to fix it. You can rely on steam for offline temporarily, but I wouldn't trust it.

Just another reason to pirate and use something like heroic games launcher which is FOSS and will never require an account or 2FA just to have your games offline, as well as the fact steam follows US copyright and licensing laws.

Those two are enough to make me never use it besides multiplayer games I own. I do own steam games like foxhole but I have less than 20 games on my steam account.
Anonymous No.725515224 [Report]
Steamies have no retort to this image, btw. They can only shit and seethe and piss themselves in response.