Thread 725518887

why is it more expensive than CPU's

Probably AI niggers.

I am so glad i got 64gb on my computer I built like a month before this bullshit happened

>>725518887 (OP)
Unironically AI

>>725518887 (OP)
A new datacenter is being opened for AI in the USA.
They bought up all of the RAM manufacturering, so there's a massive shortage and will be until the datacenter is complete.

So you're telling me in an alternate universe where Trump's assassin had better aim, Elon Musk commited suicide, Jewgle, MicroPenis and AAA companies got bombed, trannies got lynched and India and Israel got nuked RAM prices would'ven't been like this?

I LOVE SUSHI KARMA

ai is ruining everything only for them to realize there is no use for it

AI is the perfect thing to blame for price increases as it's just a fog of shared responsibility and unfalsifiable. If the entire media says so that's how it is.

>>725520545
kys rajeesh

(((Trump))) keeps giving billions of tax dollars to tech companies

>>725520234
AI is going to do everything. you're literally a luddite if you think otherwise.

>>725518887 (OP)
>check ram price
ddr5 set i got last year for 101, is now 204

i know it was black friday but sheesh

>>725522437
It can't even replace jeet call centers

>>725522701
>xhe doesn't knows

>>725518887 (OP)
best hag
Also yeah it's AI's fault but it's fine because all the different Skynets are going to be of great help to humanity.

>>725522785
Can't wait for AM to become a thing

>>725522873
>AM
Damn, what was that computer's fucking problem anyway?

>>725522948
No legs, unironically

>>725518887 (OP)
>>725520092
>>725520201
SUSHI KARMA ON /V/?

>>725522437
>AI is going to do everything
lmfao

>>725518887 (OP)
supply has not yet met a surge in demand. But it will, and then RAM will be cheaper than ever

>>725522701
tf do you mean bro, it already did, it's just trained off jeet call centers because thats all that exist

>>725523187
se? AI responses already know how to greentext

>>725523251
>The year 2027
>Microsoft finally decides to replace their call centers with AI trained off millions of instances
>Shuts down after 2 weeks because AI start asking Boomers for 500$ Google Play cards

>>725522437
Two weeks

>>725522785
>different Skynets are going to be of great help to humanity.

>>725518987
>I am so glad i got 64gb on my computer I built like a month before this bullshit happened
Bought the RAM for two systems I'm building a few months ago.
Feel like I dodged real bullets here.
>the console war is OVER
And I feel like that's just getting started.
Instead of a high-end haven, PC gaming is barreling toward smartphone slop because very soon normies won't be able to afford anything else.

>>725518987
this but 80
>tfw bought them 4 months ago because I was learning to video edit my own porn and my computer was chugging

faggot corpo niggers trying to shove ai garbage down everyones throats looking for a new problem to solve instead of working on things people like

i watched a documentary on somaliland(literal warzone btw) and it's at least 100x cleaner than india why is this

bump

>>725524773
or working on problems people already have?
>>725525220
good question but how is that related to the topic?

>>725524773
>new problem to solve
the problem of getting more and more data out of people while trying to push people into subscription models

>>725526730
SAAAR I NEED BLOODY AI TO GENERATE ARTS SO I CAN GOON TO VIRTUAL WHITE CUNNY #IndiaSuperPower2035 #ElonForPresident

>>725525220
I remember seeing a video a while ago of third-world African people reacting to Indian street food with utter disgust. It was pretty epic.

>>725527618
i watched videos of nigerian floating slums and rural pakis living in the himalayas, and i've never seen anywhere remotely as dirty as india

>>725527523
im anti generate ai bro
i just want to know what somaliland has to do with this convo?

>>725526730
>how is that related to the topic?
Will the the use of AI propel india into the sanitation standards of a third world country?

>>725522437
This is unironically true
2 more weeks

I built new pc couple weeks ago (ordered parts on october 27th) and two sticks 2x16gb ddr5 was 160€. Yesterday I checked the price had jumped to 200€. Also m2 ssd was 30€ more.

>>725523412
>Mixing this with schizophrenic Bing AI gaslighting people into trying to kill themselves
Boomers will not survive.

AI is just the latest excuse, the memory cartel has been a thing for far longer than this. It's not the actual reason, again, it's just the excuse.

nigerian floating slum in question:
https://youtu.be/8NTIY8Qy2f0
i think they're at least better than indians because they have the concept of toilets

>>725528752
>things are not caused by real world conditions
>they are caused by conspiracies

>>725520092
>Trump's assassin had better aim
You mean the ketchup pouch? Show me the scar on his ear.

>>725529068
New, or underage? It's not a conspiracy when it's so fucking blatant.
There's only a few established players in the DRAM & flash manufacturing space who actually matter and they've all openly admitted to price fixing cartel behavior since. You fucking think Samshit or SK Hynix didn't just cut production and raise prices rather than do the opposite? Or that they have your best interests in mind? Stop being so fucking naive

>>725529520
selling more goods at a cheaper price is more profittable, i think the issue was that they're not making RAM in favour of hbm which is more profittable because big tech is buying them in unprecedented bulks to build AI centers o algo

>>725518887 (OP)
AI coomers finally realized VRAM usage can spill into regular RAM.

>>725528576
They'll survive just fine as they can't understand phones.

>>725529068
What in the fuck am I watching anon
How the fuck do people enjoy this

>>725529520
you are missing the fact that there are real world fluctuations in demand
>>725529991
it seems to be not a real game but just a joke somebody made as far as i can tell

>>725529735
>>725530063
Even if the initial reason is it's true (I'll grant that it probably is), they're still gonna do the same shit they did in 2022, 2018, 2014, etc. and slow-roll out consumer RAM as slow as they can to extract as much profit.
Selling more goods at a cheaper price doesn't make rational sense when you're an oligopoly with little to no outside competitors and total control of the supply. And they'll blame AI the entire time they do it so the bad PR falls on business consumers rather than on their shady practices.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-20/samsung-is-said-to-plan-lower-chip-growth-to-maintain-prices
Yeah, because this shit definitely reminds you of healthy market competition and not OPEC, right?

>>725528225
good joke but to answer your question, ai seems to be negatively affecting the real world due to the fact that a lot of the plants that generate energy for the technology are in disadvantaged neighborhoods even in the USA

>>725519119
kids nowadays don't even know how to pirate photoshop

>>725530216
even if you want to raise prices for profit, you shouldn't double or triple them in a month like currently because nobody wants to buy them resulting in less dollaridoos earned(unless you're a luxury brand which is a different story)
it's 100% AI datacenters hoarding all the memory

>>725522437
Oh I hope idiots like you continue to fall for the scam.

>>725524773
Haha shareholder number go brrr
>>725529518
They patched it with foreskin, it's like it never happened

>>725530178
there is no such thing as healthy market competition
the invisible hand has its counterpart, the shadowhand, just as the government has its counterpart, the shadow government.
neither are calculated conspiracies or cabals but people acting in their self interest within a larger structure.
Its dangerous to start attributing things causes to coordinated maliciousness rather than general human behavior compounding over many people in many situations making many individual decisions.
The rise of ai like bitcoin mining has affected computer prices. There are always also forces of corporations trying to maximize their profits as well, and their internal calculations and decision making are also done by individuals who have certain incentives based on corporate politics so you cannot even trust a company to ruthlessly try to maximmize profit.

The Invisible Hand molested my sister

>>725530469
>you shouldn't double or triple them in a month like currently because nobody wants to buy them resulting in less dollaridoos earned
you shouldn't in theory, but cartels don't operate under the same logic. which explains their behavior through standard prisoner's dilemma keeping everyone else in line.
maybe they overdid it, but they'll eventually find a sweetspot price to more comfortably price gouge you on.

>>725530509
if it's a scam would it be taking up billions of dollars and use more power than an nations grid? checkmate.

>>725530985
https://acgc.cipe.org/business-of-integrity-blog/albanian-ponzi-schemes-as-an-extreme-case-for-strong-corporate-governance/

>>725530646
Trying to figure out intent aside, that still doesn't change the overall outcome. Or the explanation that memory manufacturers collude with each other, and that's the ultimate reason why prices are so shit long-term.
Fluctuations caused by AI are just that, but price fixing has been decades in the making, whether you think it's because they're evil douchebags or it's because it's in their ultimate rational self interest as long as no one punishes them for it.

If AI is so great, why doesn't it replace operating systems? Logically the next step of Microsoft's obsession with putting AI in Windows would be to have AI assimilate Windows instead.
Did nobody see Tron?
>No

In this thread just for my wife Sushikarma

>>725520545
Okay so then what's the real reason, mudasir

>>725530469
It all depends on their profit margin. RAM has been really cheap a decade. I cant see profit margin being much more than 10%. If you triple the price, you go from 10% to 210% profit margin - even if sales drop by 95% you're making a bigger profit than before. And while consumer sales may see such a drop, AI companies are buying the stuff in bulk so the massively increased overhead will more than make up for the loss in consumer sales.

These arent random price hikes, but very carefully calculated operations to maximize profits. Companies arent your friends. If tripling the price leads to even slight increase in total profit, they'll do it.

>>725518887 (OP)
I was actually planning on buying a new PC soon. How much RAM is a good amount these days? 16GB? 32GB?
Don't tell me 64GB is actually needed now, is it?

>>725518887 (OP)
>Wanna upgrade CPU
>CPU i wanted is now 100+ bucks fron February because they discontinued production
>wanna upgrade RAM
>RAM prices are up too
That's it, I'm sticking to pre 2020 games since those are pretty much the only ones I can play at decent frame rates anymore

>>725531335
there's a more straightforward, realistic and simple explanation;

https://cybernews.com/tech/ram-prices-skyrocket-as-ai-demand-grows/

>Samsung and other major manufacturers suspended DDR5 DRAM contract pricing in October, and their supply strategies are expected to become even more stringent in the future.

>Industry insiders expect prices to rise further in the fourth quarter of 2025 and reach new records in the first half of 2026, as manufacturers gradually shift production capacity towards more profitable HBM products for AI computing.

>In just one week DRAM spot prices jumped 30% amid tight supply, according to the latest TrendForce report.

>”Buyers are snapping up quotes immediately, sending spot prices soaring,” the report reads.

>The market is experiencing severe hoarding as buyers purchase the available module supply immediately after receiving quotes. This exacerbates short-term supply issues.

>TrendForce also quotes “zero availability” of NAND products on the market, driving prices for storage and also end products, such as smartphones.

plenty of articles like these when you look it up, and this isn't a polarising political issue either that would incentivise journos to lie like BBC CNN and Fox reporting on latest shitshow in America

>>725531543
yours also seems likely. prob a mix of both

>>725518887 (OP)
>Checked the same 32gb G.Skill Flare X5 kit I bought back in July
>Its more than double how much I bought
GPUs went down a bit since then but are they going to get worse?

>>725532018
https://www.techpowerup.com/342787/nand-flash-prices-doubled-in-six-months-warns-phison-ceo

>>725531960
>there's a more straightforward, realistic and simple explanation
Which only explains the current fluctuation, yes, but not their long-term, incentivized behaviors. Which is the larger overall point.

>>725531597
32gb minimum since most AAA titles these days require 16gb
>t. same situation

>>725530515
I thought he was very proud of surviving that assassination attempt, to the point he would ask for a more visible scar to wear as a medal.
> it's like it never happened
What an odd thing to say...

>>725524773
Ive never used ai

>>725532656
>he's giving out 2000 USD to every american
american alphies are gonna have a feast

Realistically, why would you need more than 64 GB of RAM?

>>725533624
16 million tabs

>>725531597
16 technically works for now but it would be very silly to not get 32.

It's fine, I'll just use my old ram when I upgra-
>they've changed the format again
GOD DAMN IT

>>725533624
Blender projects can eat up ram depending on how big the project is.

>>725533624
https://youtu.be/tVQsxLfKPNI

>>725518887 (OP)
>tfw 32GB ram

>>725518887 (OP)
Why does she look like that? I'm going to read her mango now.

>>725524572
Extra-hilarious considering how many devs were starting to push for "ssd required" on their games.
Be funny to see how many of them backtrack in the coming year.

>>725518973
>>725519041
Whatever happened to AI being the future? To owning the artists epic style? Weren't we on the AI hype train?

>>725534249
>NEET
>30+ years old
>virgin
>extremly socially awkward
>introvert
>chuddy
>pedophile
>permanently online
>weab
>literally who artist who draws degen art
literally 4cuckerino

>>725534348
Supplanted for hatred for the hebrews trying to cram shitty AI into absolutely fucking everything.

>>725534348
It's just a tool. Faggot 'artists' crying on twitter should always be mocked regardless of the topic and the misuse of tools like >>725534421 says is exactly the reason why the spamming of AI slop shouldn't be tolerated in stuff we want to buy.

>>725518987
>Thought about upgrading to 64gb
>Figured that I needed to upgrade my entire computer anyways so I'd just wait until I build a new one to get 64gb
>Now ram and ssds are stupid expensive
Boy do I have egg on my face.

>>725533624
Casual uses discord, which is just a chat application at the end of the day. That app uses 8GB of memory. Think about it.

>>725518987
It's funny how they kept recommending 32 gb cause it's cheap anyway and now they went full panic. I lucked out with my new PC again even though the GPU was overpriced.

>>725535154
what

>Think that the prices can't be that bad.
>Check Amazon and the 32 gigs of ram that I bought for $50 last year is now $150
What the actual fuck bros. Why does everything have to suck so bad now?

>see ram prices
>remember that all you do is play runescape anyway

>>725518887 (OP)
Lol ai wankers and wait fags lose again

>>725535586
>you'll work 16 hours daily share your car to communte and share your house with illegals and you'll be happy. oh and you will hardly manage to eat too

>>725536601
>>/pol/

>>725536601
>>>/pol/

>>725536798
never been there
but guess you still live with your parents and dont see houses,rent, salary or food prices

>>725536842
i was refering to your comment about "illegals"

>>725518887 (OP)
Same reason why both HDDs and SSDs prices are skyrocketting
AI data centers buy them in masse to keep producing their slop

>>725536896
so you are fine if i go live in your house?

>>725537050
fuck off, racist cunt
>>>/pol/

>>725522437
I work in AI field and I know that's not true

>>725537106
so are you or aren't you?
mind you i'm going to shit in the kitchen too

>PC will return to be tech for rich people
this is a good thing

>>725518887 (OP)
>RAM I bought last year is now 130$ more expensive
Damn I'm glad I decided to upgrade early

>>725537106
lissun 'ere liburals
if i am racialis' 'ow cum i cheerd for ngubu loik me un sun when 'e scored a goul against souf fc?
don't 'ate pakis or arabs, jus' don't loik 'em

>>725537286
>early
early to what?
its not like vidya is getting good games worth updating for
and the small graphic difference between generation is so negible its no worth it unless your pc can't run shit at minimum

>>725537106
Cry about it, faggot

>>725531597
32GB is enough for the next 10 years of gayming.

>>725537493
doesn't help new games hardly look different than 10 years ago, if its "needed" its simple to poor optimization

>>725537583
>10 years ago
you mean 15

>>725537653
works for me too

>>725533624
I’m trying to beat Lobotomy Corporation

>>725519041
they're gonna have a bad time when the AI bubble bursts

>all of the AI companies keep just "paying" each other "money" and their share prices keep rising
Hmm.

>>725537327
My PC was kinda shit before I decided to upgrade last year, I'm just glad I bought a GPU before the prices went retarded.

>>725531597
Battlefield 6 lags with 16 ram and they only decided to optimize to kill off COD who is their competition. It is only going to get more essential with all the bloat shit as well switched on the background

>>725538003
the MIT indian with a PhD saying "what" is what gets me every time

>buy 64gb of DDR4 3200mhz some months ago because I got the upgrade itch and convinced myself I needed it
>do not need it
>rumours spread of Zen 6 being delayed (which was going to be my next platform overhaul)
>now RAM prices skyrocket
>are projected to stay high until 2027 at least
Seemingly my upgrade itch has bought me more time and AM4 is eternal with my 5800x3d now going to be trooping on for another 2 years. The fun part is I jumped on AM4 day one so my motherboard is from 2017.

This thread has reminded me I can cannibalize my brothers PC. nice

WAITFAGS BTFO ONCE AGAIN

Thank fuck I just built my new rig a couple months ago.

>>725518887 (OP)
Just set your page file to the cloud and dl more ram.

>>725538430
Or just use a huge page file on your blazing fast gen 5 nvme amirite?

>>725534348
its good for the cumlogs lora and nothing else

>>725518887 (OP)
Partly so they could sell it to you on black friday at "cheaper" prices and partly because ai companies are sucking it by the pounds.

>>725518987
>IM SO LE GLAD I GOT IT BEFORE THE PRICE HIKE BRO IT LITERALLY DOESN'T AFFECT ME ANYMORE PHEEEW
you know they don't last forever right

>>725534348
>Whatever happened to AI being the future?
Current LLMs shit themselves in long conversations.
They keep forgetting crucial things and hallucinating answers. AI cannot improve if it'll keep being based on the current technology.

>>725534384
I'm the same but about a decade younger

>>725537838
Doesn't matter, they already ordered years of supply

I'm not so concerned about RAM since I really doubt I will need more than 32GB unless I heavily delve into AI porn, my problem is that SSDs were also affected and I was planning on buying a second 2TB one to have a dedicated storage and gaming memory and also to play with dual booting into Linux, but those are also doubling in price. I guess I'll just get a fat 10/20TB HDD for now, surely those won't be affected.

>>725538906
people need to realise that chatgpt is what AI THINKS the comments with the most upvotes on reddit will say about a particular scenario
would you trust a random redditor(there's no way of knowing if he's from a related subreddit) on how to perform medical activities in case of an emergency?

>>725520092
You could’ve just said “a world where Hadrian finished the job”

>>725518887 (OP)
I'm actually curious about this because to my understand LLMs and shit were just using GPU memory. How did RAM get into the conversation?

>>725539526
idk much but they say companies are sucking up hbm like crazy to build AI data centers, and as a result they have to cut ddr5 production to keep up with the demand o algorithmn

>>725518887 (OP)
>>725524572
>bought 32GB DDR4 while waiting for 64GB+ to come down
>now stuck like this for 2+ years
How do you need system RAM for AI anyway? I thought VRAM was the secret sauce, or is it because of vendors hoarding chips?

>>725539745
This >>725539639, it's just companies focusing on selling all of their stock to corporations which in turn severely cuts the supply available for the end consumer. We'll be suffering from a shortage of PC components for the foreseeable future because THE LINE MUST GO UP.

At this point, I'm hoping that some chinese corpo comes with cheap components and sweeps the whole market.

>>725518973
There's no probably about it. It is the reason.

>>725539745
There's only so many wafers being shat out and if the demand for other memory skyrockets, they're just not producing those DDR modules you want. The allotment goes towards whatever form factor AI requires.

>>725531494
most of the known brands for ram cards have left the manufacturing business and simply rebrand SK hynix chips. Hynix realized they are the only game in town and raised prices to resellers, and resellers are trying to spread the margins to the customer.

>>725539113
AI is neural networking and that's just statistics. Of course there is much more to it nowadays but if people were aware of its foundation there wouldn't be such a huge hype surrounding it. Train a model on Reddit data and the response with highest probability to your query is Reddit shit. Things will get funny now as a lot of content is AI created thus leading to digital incest as Ai may learn now on AI created things.

>>725539526
guns/butter. Now that AI is spreading to the point where AI datacenters will take 'any' graphics card rather than just premium cards, ram chip makers are now making bad graphics cards instead of ram chips.

>>725540216
Is that why a.i tells people to kill themselves - because they scrape /v/ for training?

>>725540216
>digital incest

>>725518887 (OP)
What do you mean? Did they get way more expensive? I wanted to upgrade to 32gb.

>>725540345
it all depends on the quality of the learning data so yea that's actually possible.

>>725535027
>Decided to wait till next year to build myself a new pc in the hopes that things would come down a bit in price.
>Bunch of shit ends up skyrocketing in price.
God damn it the one time I decided not to impulsively purchase something. Guess I'm stuck on 1080p for the time being.

>>725540418
Have you been living under a rock? RAM prices have pretty much doubled in price since October.

>>725540418
32gb shot up by $100 in the past couple months.

>>725540418
154% price increase on memory since summer. All the silicon is going towards whatever shit "AI" requires.

>>725529518
>ketchup pouch
Don't be silly, he had a little blade on his finger to slice his ear a bit. That's why there was no blood until he touched it. Guy did pro-wrestling, he's learnt some tricks.

>>725540216
It's not like LLMs are just pretrained on all the data and then released like that, lol. That gives it a good foundation for learning generalised attention and prediction patterns but they do then refine it on high quality data

I don't use LLMs for conversation but i have been using GLM 4.6 for code and it's impressive how it holds up to about 32K context length. The biggest issue is that you do need around 130GBs total for a model that's any good... the issues you describe sound more like say a 32B or lower parameter model, which admittedly are all shit

>>725518887 (OP)
I'm on 32GB DDR4 myself, but I feel like Windows 11 is using up more RAM resources compared to 10. Some of the games I specifically upgraded to 32GB for such as my modded Skyrim is pushing ram usage to the very limit, and struggles if I have resource hog browser like Firefox open with several tabs active which wasn't that much of an issue before. Wanted to wait to see we got some good Black Friday deals on ram so I can upgrade to 64GB, but we probably won't be seeing much of a discount

man i am so glad i picked up a decent desktop before the (((chip shortage))) and coin miners fucked the entire game up. i just wanna shoot at colourful aliens for fuck sake, i am not paying a months wages to buy a PC for the privilege to do so.

supply and demand happened
you'd know if you weren't poor

>>725540671
That's actually the most realistic tinfoil I've heard about that thing. He would have learned blading from ol' Vinny

>>725524572
i hate ai so goddamn much

>>725529518
>>725540671
>>725541364
A guy right next to him got shot and died, that's a bit harder to fake

>>725541302
heres todays

>>725541562
The line is going up indeed.

>>725541009
massgrave.dev/windows10_eol
massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

>>725541551
I know anon, I don't think it was fake. Just saying that if there's anything that's realistic is that he bladed his ear (not something wrestlers usually do but it would be doable)

>>725536601
Literally the DSA platform

>>725541551
That part's not faked. If it was staged, the hardest part to explain would be getting that dumbass kid to go up there and sacrifice his life to take a shot that deliberately misses.

>>725541676
>>725542002
Only a giant retard would try to fake their own assassination by having someone shoot a rifle at a guy standing next to him. INSANELY risky.

>>725542246
The guy wasn't standing next to him, he was sitting in the crowd.

Cool it with the antisemitism. Every one of you!

>>725543225
No, I don't think I will.

>>725540642
>>725540610
>>725540486
Thats not good

>>725540926
Which is why at the current state AI can't really improve. We're already at the "diminishing return" state.
You need double the RAM for a model to be marginally better than a model that needs half its RAM. This is not sustainable and if no one comes up with a better solution, we'll be forever stuck with hallucinating shit.

>>725518887 (OP)
same reason every gaming gpu only has 8 gigs of vram

>>725539526
models can leverage RAM if the GPU do not have enough VRAM. You can try it yourself by downloading a basic kobold.cpp and a model that does not exceeds your total RAM + VRAM.
Granted the generation speed tanks when using RAM, but it's better than nothing.

>>725544324
>This is not sustainable
They don't care, line go up while they shuffle money around in a circle.

>>725522437
>AI is going to do everything
Even if it did, that means you would also be reduced to a warehouse carton box lifter, assuming you aren't one already.

>>725541009
that's because windows 11 does use more ram than 10
minimum requirements to run windows 11 is 4gbs of ram whereas 10 only required 2

>>725544557
You do realize that at some point, if things don't change, the line will eventually stop going up, right?

prices will always go up because of retards like these too >>725541363

>>725522437
>everything
except it wont, it will only be accomplishing calculatory tasks

>>725544703
Oh I realize and they realize, line must still go up so they can amass as much as possible before the bubble bursts.

>>725541009
Upgrade to W10 LTSC 22H2 IoT my friend. W11 use both more RAM and more CPU for no reason other than necause the GUI is written in React.

>>725518887 (OP)
Started reading this. Does the 31 year old washed up idol start making porn and make his 16 year old cousin watch in the chair or not

>>725544840
explain without sounding retarded

>>725534348
/v/ is not 1 person.

>>725545160
No, it's just cascade failure after cascade failure. It's great

>>725545187
People spend money to fake richness

>>725545160
no, she gets an offer but declines it. 16 year old is a pussy magnet

>>725534348
India happened
No, really. AI would be far more widely accepted if it wasn't for indians shitting up the internet with the most boring slop imaginable.

16gb is enough for me

>>725534348
>Weren't we
Don't include me with you, you filth, from the very beginning I knew that AI would be mainly used by the lowest common denominator to shit out the worst kind of slop imaginable and it was only a matter of time for the usual corporate suspects to also want a piece of that cake and ruin everything for everyone. All because every single company wants their own glorified internet searcher.

>>725518887 (OP)
I welcome it. If one is too poor to afford they shouldn't be gaming in the first place, get a 2nd job lazy zoomgroids

>>725546573
>t. Vile Schlomo

>>725546573
>I'm fine and even willing to throw away my money
textbook nigger poorfag mentality.

>>725533624
Skyrim mods.

Ive been telling you AI - ruins everything on a macro scale.
Even if you never use it - you still end up paying for it, AI boom destroys whole economy and society. You think its just funny pictures? Energy prices are skyrocketing - means EVERYTHING becomes unaffordable.
You dont hate AI enough.

>>725523221
If the increase in prices don't cool non-industrial sales, and no cheaper alternative exists, then there is zero incentive to increase supply. RAM isn't beef or corn anon.

>>725518973
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hhwSCa-RKl0

>>725549358
I for one welcome our new AI overlords.

call me a tinfoil, but this entire notion of sudden random scarcity feels planned to me. every time something on PC component market goes out of stock, prices skyrocket, and then later on price remains all the way up there, just like it did with GPUs
>xingyang-chan, we've received a report that our biggest competitor put an order for one gorillion chips from TSMC, and our analysis suggests that this won't met the demand for the next year
>if we request more, maybe chip manufacturer could work on improving their output, then we could fulfill this demand and sell more units than the competitor
>but if we request same amount, we'll end up with a shortage, and then later on we'll keep selling our product for 4x the price until the end of the world
my take is that they're winning the prisoner's dilemma

>>725530063
>it seems to be not a real game but just a joke somebody made as far as i can tell
it's a 'real' game in the sense you can play it, though I don't remember the name at this point, it's been over 10 years
your goal is basically just to crush other furries' nuts by throwing rocks at them and avoid getting your own destroyed

> There's more demand for hardware because of AI psychosis.
> Handful of Eastern hardware manufacturers jack up prices.
> There's little competition to bring prices down.
Just free market at work.

AAA gaming is getting the short end of the stick, because it requires unreasonably powerful rig. In this, indieshit and Nintendo are on the right side of history.

>>725551532
Given memory manufacturers have been busted in the past - more than once - for price fixing through various means it isn't some tinfoil hat theory. There is a reason why DDR4 production stopped earlier than normal.