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>>725520542 (OP)
And also the final boss in every JRPG, apparently. You haven’t truly saved the world until you’ve drop-kicked a holy mother-figure into the next dimension.

>>725520645
And then the superboss is just some dragon in a cave that can breathe fire really hard.

>>725520645
Nah she's an optional boss and an easy one at that (she's a damage check, all she does is heal) and to get her to that level you've gotta do a lot of fusion fuckery. The real superbosses in SMT V are Demi-Fiend and Satan. I guess Shiva counts if you're a bitch.

>>725520645
Which JRPG?

>>725520542 (OP)
Why does she have a dinosaur?

how do I get into shin megami tencent

>>725521181
>Maria’s body has various beasts and serpentine demons attached to it, like Cerberus, Griphon, Nandi, Mizuchi, Yamata-no-Orochi and so on. This chaotic aspect exists due to Christian Maria assimilating mother goddesses of various regions. The mother facet of Virgin Mary fused with the prostitute facet of Mary Magdalene and became the mother of the crucified Jesus after hearing his words, as depicted in John 19:25-27.

>>725521181
Why don't you?

>>725520876
FF6

>>725521373
That doesn't make a lick of sense

is this the thread frens?

>>725521181
>>725521645
NTA and I dont think it was ever confirmed but i think its supposed to be a representation of the devil in which she steps on, the other animals (lion, eagle, bull and fish) are all heavily associated with saints or symbols of christianity, so the dino was always the odd one out.

>>725521645
Christianity assimilated multiple religions into it, adapting multiple cultures and traditions in order to make Christianity the dominant religion in Europe and more with the help of colonization. Because of that, Maria is interpreted as an amalgamation in SMT. She is a representation a mother goddess or holy virgin seen in multiple other religions across the world.

>>725521181
The tengus have Jewish hats and prayer boxes because Konerko believed in the theory that japan is a lost tribe if Israel. Last time tried to research it I found an autist went to Japan to piss on the grave of some smt demon.... I

>>725521862
>She is a representation a mother goddess or holy virgin seen in multiple other religions across the world.

How does this explain the trex though?

>>725522094
what I want to know is how the bitch is level 150

>>725522094
Everything on her is a demon and when you fight her in NINE (the game she was first made for) each demon falls out of her as you kill her. Look up Maria's boss battle and see which demon the trex is.

>>725520821
Shiva>Hitoshura and Satan
Fatlus once again shows they can't into superboss deisgn

>>725521862
>in order to make Christianity the dominant religion in Europe
That's not true and is just you projecting the Abrahamic concept of extreme religious fervour to pagans. All it actually took to convert them was for their nobility to convert, then the people followed.

>>725524227
>All it actually took-
Was adopting their gods, traditions and holidays into Christianity and telling them everything was made by god and is part of god. Also offering them the idea of salvation and avoiding hell.

>>725524291
No, they did all that themselves. They converted because their nobility did.

>>725524357
>rich people lied to them and added their gods and traditions into the bible and told them it was always there
>they just auto converted bro

>>725524458
They converted because their leaders (the nobility) converted and they then continued to practice their traditions with a different context. There has never been any church doctrine in any Christian denomination to do the things you describe. You're just a retard.

>>725522261
Godborn difficulty and essence fusion.

>>725523946
Why and how did Shiva give you any trouble whatsoever? His summons?

>>725524592
Don't look up what they did to Artemis.

>>725524826
Are you talking about St Paul? That has no bearing on any of this discussion, you child.

>>725524978
>immediately gets mad

>>725521181
Mary is often depicted by Catholics as standing on top of a dragon or serpent representing Satan, which is actually a holdover from depictions of Ishtar.

>>725525046
And here comes the non-argument quotation posts. Why is this always the last resort of the uneducated teenager?

>>725520542 (OP)
That triggers the almighty spergout

>>725521273
For sheer entry level?
SMT1 & 2 SNES or PS or GBA is essential.
SMT3 emulated or remaster, whatever you prefer.
SMT4, some may argue try Apocalypse, I'd argue they try lobotomy.
You may as well Strange Journey while you're at it, there are strong opinions about Redux as well but that one I'll leave to you.

The obscure stuff mentioned here about events in NINE requires emulation or patience with a video, because I doubt browsing the wikis will make a lick of sense.
While you're watching vids you may as well watch the DDS Megami Tensei and Shin Megami Tensei: Tokyo Revelations anime movies. They don't provide a lot of context for SMT though, the first is the premise for the Megami Tensei Games you can play as the Kyuyaku Megami Tensei compilation which has elements that SMT references or uses but isn't vital to know, the latter movie is actually closer to Giten Megami Tensei but you probably can't play that, even so it's still interesting to watch. Very abrupt ending though, I'll warn you.
For a similar vibe see if you can find the Devilman OVAs while you're at it.

Tehom is the most interesting antagonist I have ever seen in any SMT game. The fact that the abyss referenced in Genesis 1:2 is a boss is cool all on its own. That entire fight oozed unknown fear.

>>725525092
>still mad

>>725520542 (OP)
why is the holy mother showing off her legs like that?

>>725525091
>which is actually a holdover from depictions of Ishtar.
It is a very common symbol that predates Ishtar by many centuries, in fact it predates Sumer.

>>725525284
Godborn Ishtar is a bad bitch, especially if you don't destroy her press-turn towers. You only get to fight her in the lame canon though.

>>725525274
This was considered weak trolling decades ago.

>>725524458
> added them to the bible

Are you actually retarded? You have some saints that were inspired by some pagan myths but they aren't at all biblical

>>725525367
Her battle theme is one of the best in the game.

>>725525397
>but they aren't at all biblical
There are multiple versions of the bible and stories involving Saints were crafted to promote whichever version was approved of.

>>725525432
100% fuck man it's so groovy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e03q6WaRKl8

>>725525552
How about posting some examples of this that show where the directive was made to do this by church officials?

>>725525249
Music was really good during that fight too

>>725525601
There's a funny scene after this fight where Decarabia questions whether he was right to help you or not then wanders off.

>>725520645
Nah that's the demiurge and he deserves it because he sucks

>>725525552
There isn't, no one was added to the bible to convert people. You have canonizing saints, but they weren't added to the bible.

>>725525627
Really thinking he's just confused with what canonization was back then.

> what about fartoques the best farter in the forest?
> yes yes he was a good boy and resides in heaven now

>>725521273
Start with SMT VV

ねねね!!!!!

>>725520645
SAAAAR

>>725525885
He's one of those anti-Christian types who wants the church to be some evil, shadowy group that manipulates everyone and everything behind the scenes in the interest of forwarding their evil goals. People like him make similar claims about the CIA forcing black people to do drugs and commit crime as a way of enforcing "white supremacy". It's just retarded conspiratorial thinking that any midwit can perform in an attempt to feel more informed.

>>725526024
Beating the fuck out of every jeet deity is one of the best features of this entire series dude.

>>725526098
Saar, this is a fucking SMT thread.

>>725524227
There's no 'original' religion, all religions mish and mash and loan from eachother and bleed into eachother.

>>725525934
This but unironically. Terrible story, objectively best gameplay.

Norse mythology added the story of Ragnarok due to Christian conversion because at the end of it, the world makes way for a new tree and the first human beings, a man and a woman thanks to Odin. This was the church trying to say that even God's creation myth is in their own mythology and that norse mythology is actually just christian faith. This was all made up shit. They looked at what others were practicing and said "look what you believe is already in the bible!!!" by twisting the truth or adding addendums to their pagan myth. Cry and bitch all you want. There are tons of examples of this.

>>725526227
I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm disagreeing with the idea that there was a concerted effort from the church to co-opt certain myths and traditions in order to fool pagans into converting.

>>725526349
Do you even know what you're trying to say anymore?

>>725526349
The louder you say it the truer it gets.

>>725520542 (OP)
>nullifies pierce if you buff
I must be fucking retarded because I never got to fight her in any of my playthroughs.

>>725525960
Flying daugtherwife onahole

>>725526434
>>725526463
Norse myth was recorded after Christianity started being practiced, before then it was all word of mouth. Everyone around icelanders at the time (like the Saxxons) used similar names for what they refereed to as the first humans. Ask and Embla were entirely different and written by Snorri Sturluson who was a church mouth piece and practicing christian who also held a ton of land and was incredibly wealthy which is why his accounts were spread including his fanfiction that added an Adam and Eve story to norse mythology.

>>725527070
Just present the evidence, not your personal interpretation of events.

>>725527070
Wow that's pretty incredible that you know all about this Norse myth that was never recorded.

>>725527108
>please spoon feed me
I gave you enough explanation for you to go from there.

>>725527148
I just read everything about it and you're wrong. Trust me.

>>725527243
He presented as much evidence as you. I think I trust him.

>>725526817
Amanozako is not for lewd!

Huh, that one anon guessed right it's one of those disgruntled pagan types.

>>725526609
Thanks for posting the ugliest cosplay I've ever seen in my life.

>>725527315
Says you

>>725527342
Why are you in a SMT thread?

>>725527342
>it's one of those disgruntled pagan types.
Shut up law faggot.

>>725527342
He really gave himself away with the Norse pagan obsession. Why are they all drawn to that in particular?

>>725527148
I'm not part of this argument, but I was genuinely interested in your point and was wondering if you had any interesting reading

>>725527070
>*writes down all your myths and traditions, preserving them for eternity, since you don't know how*
No need to thank us!

>>725527615
>we just made some edits, hope that's ok

>>725527660
How do you know?

>>725527689
>he doesn't know

>>725521645
That's what makes SMT cool. It's largely anachronistic nippon interpretation of mythological figures. And you can argue it's apt in a way because followers of those religions would probably find modern mainstream interpretations to be largely if not wholly anachronistic. It's like if you use a photocopier (boomer moment) on the same document over and over again. It's a semblance of an idea of a thought of someone's interpretation.

>>725527689
They even tried to make Finnish pagan midsummer party juhannus the birthday of the dude who baptised Jesus. We still do our old traditions.
And why do you think people worship eggs and bunnies on easter? Because Jesus liked them? No, it’s pagan celebration of fertility, they are symbols of that t. another anon

>>725521645
>he doesn't know dinosaurs also followed christ

>christfags getting mad in a SMT thread
Just like old times.

>>725528041
Easter eggs came to the west from the near east during the Crusades. Before that it was a Persian tradition that spread throughout the Byzantine world.

>>725528041
Because of american jews?

>>725528041
>They even tried to make Finnish pagan midsummer party juhannus the birthday of the dude who baptised Jesus.
Do you have the decree for this? Or the council it was discussed in? Or the doctrine that states how this is to be done? Or anything besides a baseless conspiracy?

>>725528434
Here is article of it on churches site. I think there isn’t anything of it in English

https://evl.fi/sanasto/Juhannus/

>>725528995
I've translated it, but I don't see any references to what I asked for. This comes off more as hearsay than historical evidence.

>>725529060
Typical law fag cope.

>>725528995
Yeah, that’s more of a modern summary than a primary source. Doesn’t really prove the Church deliberately hijacked Juhannus with official doctrine-more like they just slapped Saint John’s name on top to co-opt the timing and make it easier to convert the locals. Like they did with Saturnalia and Christmas. Classic assimilation tactic, not exactly a Vatican deep-state operation.

>>725520821
Masakado as well. I couldn't beat him without cheesing it with Onkakopon and a tank.

>>725529060
Here is some information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer

>>725529386
What actually happens in the vast majority of these cases is that the people who converted added their own traditions to their own churches after converting. That's why there's no evidence of the church using this "tactic".
>>725529452
A wikipedia article?

Dazai should have gotten rid of the acne when he went full Aizen.

Is smt vx worth playing if I wanna play the first game? Or should I stick to the PS1 version?

>>725529646
>Muh Lady Abdiel.
I get it, man. But also, what a fag.

How dekinai friendly is VV?

>>725529842
It's almost all gameplay, and the applicability of the language is basically nonexistent. The terminology is either bad JP translations of international myth, but you'll mostly just be using spells with names that in any language, are made the fuck up.

>>725529987
My actual ESL is showing, fuck's sake. It's not Japanese, it's a white language, fuck you all. I can't help being German.

>>725529646
>>725529840

>>725530073
I bet making his hat say "SUCKER" was a little less obvious in Jap-speak, right?

>>725530043
You guys gas merkel yet

>>725530174
Most definitely. But the coolest part of his design is how his shirt says DANGER but how it's obscured most of the time it looks like it says ANGEL. Very kino.

>>725530221
I gave you my braps, please respond.

>>725530257
Nips really can't help themselves about lookalike writing.

>>725529840
>tells him he's a good boy once
>devotes his life to her, doesn't even care about God's law himself

>>725529665
Why not play both?
Start with PS SMT though.

>>725530409
>doesn't even care about God's law himself
No, they twisted it to say they were following god's law by disobeying it. Also I think it's funny how in CoV, it's the reverse where Abdiel becomes Dazai's bitch and attack dog instead.

>>725530493
>Also I think it's funny how in CoV, it's the reverse where Abdiel becomes Dazai's bitch and attack dog instead.
I legit hated that, in the original you can understand he becomes overbearing because he was always looking for approval but scarcely given a chance, so naturally he jumps into Abdiel's lap from how patient and supporting she is with him and turns on her opponents to keep in her graces.

With CoV he IS given a chance, and DOES get approval from his circle, but becomes fucking vile simply from being offered.

>>725530826
I think everyone agrees that Dazai was handled poorly in both of them. Yuzuru was just muh imouto, but at least he was consistent and didn't get his character and motivations in the last 2 hours of the story.

>>725531039
The only good thing about VV is the gameplay and the bos- actually those are also just gameplay because their designs are ass. So the explor- wait that's gameplay too.
Uh.
If you have a JK fetish doi is catering to you?

>>725531039
I don't agree at all. You have to keep in mind that everyone in this story carries the theme of hypocrisy.

Why do so many fags latch onto this game?
There at least three different mods to put the main character in a skirt.

>>725531247
It's a mystery, chief.

>>725531247
>why do people like this game?
>names something completely unrelated to liking the game

>>725520542 (OP)
not very useful skills huh

>>725531247
It took me a second to realize you meant fags in the literal sense, I was wondering why you randomly suggested a skirt mod.

Nuwa sex

>>725531182
Yuzuru is pretty consistent throughout. He just wants demons and gods to stop screwing around and make sure his sister is safe.
And I don't blame him, she's kawaii as fuck.

>>725531621
Did you not catch he's also obsessed with the Prime Minister and wants to impress him? Why do you think Miyazu got so mad at him?

>>725531407
Wait, wait, this neuron activation helped me realize how to perfect SMTV.
Instead of there being pre-existing human partners for the Demons trying to become a Nahobino, make the MC one of the rare humans capable of being molded clay, i.e. groomed.

Now it's like Persona with social links.

>>725531182
Tsukiyomi doesn't. And neither does Yakumo, really, Nuwa just had the true neutral scheme in her head that she didn't tell him.

>>725531689
Why are there like four words for hard in Japanese?

>>725531687
I mean, I'd follow Shinzo Abe if he sounded like Tsuda.

>>725531708
Yakumo had a whole subplot about hypocrisy and Koshimizu's hypocrisy is that he wants to be human despite acting as a god.

It's funny there is a SMTV thread up because I just jumped back into my old save file. I wasn't very far because I couldn't get into the game, but now it's really picking up for me. The first 2-3 hours just drag and feel boring. I'm doing a pure STR build. I'm at 70 STR but I'm only level 32, and I noticed the game really expects you to powerlevel/grind consistently. I actually feel underleveled for where I'm at in the game, so I'm not sure if I'm missing some kind of XP booster skill or what? Does the XP just pick up later on? Do you get some kind of passive that doubles/triples your XP?

I can tell you that I had no trouble leveling up in Persona games, especially in P3 because Tartarus is just one giant leveling arena with 255 floors. It feels the XP is much slower in SMT games.

>>725531747
It's like Eskimos with words for snow, life shapes priorities.
Have you ever seen JAV? Imagine living in one.
>That's not how Japan--
Shh, don't think. Feel.

>>725531882
If you explore the map then you shouldn't need to grind as much. If you really feel like you need to level more, you can always creamapi the magatama demons in that give you oodles of levels glory and money.

>>725531882
You shouldn't be grinding at all, I remember you can easily stay at the target level from the EXP you get from completing quests without ever doing random encounters. Quest EXP is pretty big compared to what you get from battles.

Unless you're talking about leveling your demons. Demons in SMT don't level up past the first few levels, you're meant to swap them out constantly. You can keep your favorites relevant with grimoires which Mitama drop, but even then you really only have enough to keep 1-3 demons all game.

>>725531882
If you do your quests, you don't have to grind.

>>725531882
V gives massive catch-up XP as soon as you're not withing 2-3 levels of your enemies, the level scaling in general is highly magnetic to force you within the designated range

>>725532371
>>725532494
>>725533350
>buy complete edition
>has a shitload of mitama floating around
>didn't notice this was a toggle
>first SMT game so think this is normal
>be lvl 50 when fighting Nuwa

>>725533698
Yeah the Mitama DLC is a menace. The crazy thing is you see Mitama pretty regularly without it, the DLC just turns every enemy into metal slime.

I wish Beeno could learn Hassou Tobi.

>>725520821
Is V demi fiend as hard as the DDS one?

>>725534232
I'd say so. He's harder but you have better answers which evens it out imo.

>>725531407
Yes

>>725534232
He's hard in a different way. The super bosses in the PS2 games are more like puzzle bosses where you need to understand their script. DF in V just has a shit ton of bullshit he can pull and things you have to protect against. That said I think Satan is way harder.

>>725534504
The True Neutral boss? I got wiped once when I miscalculated my damage and I got fireballed, but Masakado and Demi were way harder for me.

>>725520542 (OP)
shes another form through syncretism of Sophia/Inana/Isis.
the catholic church obsession with the virgin Mary, especially the black version of her, represents exactly that. just another example as to how the catholic church has never been followers of Christ.

>>725534406
If Yakumo is gonna nwf her then I'll gladly take her.
On that note, it's a missed opportunity not to be given to option to get extra dialog if you fuse her and talk to him again.

>>725534582
No, Satan, the Vengeance Super boss

>>725534504
how the fuck arent the super bosses in Vengeance not as much of a puzzle? you cannot brute force any of them. on hard that is, but if you didnt beat it on hard then you didnt beat the game.

>>725534838
god this design is so fucking bad lol

>>725531689
you are a faggot for using a screenshot I took to shitpost, kill yourself you nigger.

>>725535109
did you maybe not consider the fact that you are shit at the game if you genuinely think they are puzzles?

>>725535163
Why

>>725520542 (OP)
The bible itself had multiple Marias. Let me guess, you think his mother is Magdalene. But SMT as a whole is super blasphemic.

>>725535109
They have some complex gimmicks but what I meant is you really can only beat DDS DF one way, by following his script. In V DF you don't have to stick to the script to beat him (in fact the classic strategy is to Mute him constantly and make him skip his bullshit.

I think DDS DF is harder but V DF is a better designed boss.

>>725535163
I prefer classic Satan by a lot, but I don't think Doi Satan is bad, just wish they went with the original concept where he was a snake instead of humanoid.

Lucifer on the other hand I think Doi one is brilliant, easily my favorite look for him, and my favorite re-design. I kind of wonder if it wasn't based off an unused Kaneko concept since it feels like a complete arc from the original character.

>>725520542 (OP)
OK, there is the fish that was one of the earliest symbols of Christianity. Then we have the bird, bull and lion and combined with her head it makes for a nice nod to the Cherubim (the real Cherubim, not the little baby angels that mass media wants you think of them)...but what's the dinosaur doing here?

>>725535109
>but if you didnt beat it on hard then you didnt beat the game.
for once I agree with this

>>725536864
>Lucifer on the other hand I think Doi one is brilliant, easily my favorite look for him, and my favorite re-design. I kind of wonder if it wasn't based off an unused Kaneko concept since it feels like a complete arc from the original character.
what design are you talking about? (Doi's Lucifer) You seriously prefer robot-Lucifer over this (kaneko's lucifer)?

Which SMTs are worth playing if I think 3 is completely soulless compared to 1 and 2?

>>725537934
Soul Hackers on 3DS

the game is kino

>two smt V threads in two days
Did the game go on sale?

Tryhard American Christians are so silly sometimes.
I bet they never read the Bible in the first place and just want to show everyone in a polite way that their dick is bigger because they are lazy, boring and empty on the inside.

>>725528098
Fuck the dinosaurs, Unicorns were real, but they're extinct now. The Leviathan is also real and why you have an innate fear of the deep ocean.

>>725538573
It did (during autumn sale)

>>725538460
Gotta breed em all.

>>725539042
Speaking of Mermaid, I have one at lv34 on me but I feel she's gonna fall off soon, what essences are good

>>725537934
strange journey

>>725539227
All of them.

>>725520542 (OP)
Would.

>>725520645
No? I remember her being the final boss only in smt nine.

>>725521273
Personally I'd recommend 1, 4 or strange journey, but nocturne and VV are also a decent place to start.

>>725539042
>>725539227
>>725539494
Based Mermaid chads

>played through nocturne
>dropped emulated V due to always crashing at the Lamu fight

Should I play Raidou, Soul Hackers 2, or give the pc release of V a try next?

>>725540116
VV if you want more press turn, Raidou remaster if you want an action RPG.
Raidou is also shorter so there's that, just remember to start on hard because normal is too easy.
Save SH2 for last because it's very divisive.

>>725537435
Yes. I love the combination of it being so lavish and ornate with the irony of his true and ultimate form being a machine angel, the one thing he's adamantly fought against. The 6 pairs of wings is something Kaneko has been teasing since the beginning of the series, and the fact that at the end of everything, this is Lucy's revelation it's perfect. Like Char or Devilman Satan, it's equal parts glorious and pathetic.

>>725539227
Mermaid has Pandemonic Feast. She will never fall off if you don't want her to.

>>725541152
He looks like a rank 9 xyz monster from yugioh.
And that's rad.

>>725541152
Man, speaking of Char, the more I watch CCA, the more I'm convinced it's a masterpiece
Having the last exchange between this rivalry that spanned 10 years in real life, 14 in-universe, being Char pissing himself over Amuro accidentally killing his underage indian prostitute mommyGF during the OYW and Amuro being completely befuddled that it was all for this is amazing
The last emotion Amuro felt before being engulfed by atmospheric re-entry flames was utter bewilderment
Bravo Tomino, genuinely the best way you could have ended this rivalry in

>>725521181
>>725521721
>I dont think it was ever confirmed
Kaneko literally talked about this design in [Kaneko Works III]
>>725521373
Is right. I didn’t expect anyone to write the exact translation from dijehtranslations here.
https://dijehtranslations.wordpress.com/2021/11/12/kaneko-works-iii-yaldabaoth-maria-adam-eve/

>>725541949
Lalah ;_;

>>725541965
>Maria means fat chick
lol

>>725535928
shut up faggot you dont know shit and are just talking outta your seething gaping wound where your dick used to be

>>725541152
I just hate doi's hardon for geometric angles
Stup angle legs
Stub angle pedipalps
Angled forearm guards with more angles protruding out the bad
Angle power lines down the body
Angled wings
Angles layered on angles layered on angles.
Angel's redesign works because it's restrained and mostly humanoid instead of devolving into transformers shapes all over.
Yes, I prefer a purple naked man with a cape to doi's odin.

>>725542706
The irony of this post.

>>725543051
Doi art is just as good, you kaneko fags need to move on already.

>>725541949
Their souls are weighed down by gravity=They can't let go of mommy (Earth)

That's what it always was about.

Don't shit up the thread with another Doi vs Kaneko pissfight. I'd rather watch seething christfags again.

>>725543240
>muh kanekofags
lol
lmao
Doi is just shit.

>>725539042
Bro, your Alice?

>>725543240
I liked Zeus. Odin, not so much.

>>725543240
>>725543240
I liked Odin. Zeus, not so much.

>>725541965
>Casually explains the plot of NINE to explain a semi-related boss from a new game
Thanks for the spoilers, Kaneko

>>725521862
>>725524227
>>725526227
It's not about syncretism, it is Kaneko being a weird fucker and believing that Judeo-Christianity is the origin of ALL MYTHS, RELIGION AND FOLKLORE throughout the world, to the point where he believe that Shinto came from it and that the Japanese people are descendants from the mythical Lost Tribes of Israel.

>>725520542 (OP)
Damn, Pistis Sophia looks like THAT?

>>725541965
Damn, Nine sounds kino.

>>725546827
Yes that is the correct interpretation of the book of genesis hes just taking it for what it is which is refreshingly honest because most christians dont even do that.

>>725520542 (OP)
>does to almighty

>>725549007
D-does what?

>>725520542 (OP)
Real talk. I did not like this part of the game. Not even a catholic bro.

What about Sophia? How do they explain things away?

>>725543240
>Doi art is just as good, you kaneko fags need to move on already.
Based

>>725535109
>but if you didnt beat it on hard then you didnt beat the game.
I'm not a loser faggot NEET and I'd rather move on to other games I didn't play ASAP. Sorry about your life.