Thread 725550985

I just got my ass beat by this fucking monkey, how do I cope?

by making a shit thread on /v/

>>725551060
At least it's on topic

Throw firecrackers at him.

>>725550985 (OP)
Burn the fucker.

>>725551294
Damn hadn't thought of that, I just took them off since they seemed useless after the Blazing Bull

>>725551487
It's probably the most useful prosthetic.
Works against humans as well.

>>725552395
Good to know, cheers mate

>>725550985 (OP)
It's a rite of passage, everyone gets humbled by the monkey

>>725550985 (OP)
firecrack to stun + hit them with oil + flame vent + living force (if you have the skill, it really completes the flame vent maybe my favorite in the game) into floating passage combo will delete him.

>>725553563
I think I'm missing half of those things but I'll take note

>>725550985 (OP)
Anti-air deathblow
Timing is stupid tight, but it 1 shots them
Firecrackers works great to increase posture dmg

Do you have the Prosthetic you obtain from the Ring?
The upgrade for that is pretty hilarious

>>725553774
>Do you have the Prosthetic you obtain from the Ring?
The what?

Living force is the last skill you learn in the esoteric text with all the shinobi moves. It allows you to buff your sword with your flame vent (fire or lazuli). Floating passage is that combat art you learn from the one pot noble in Hirata Estates, it's maybe the best zero emblem combat art in the game. So basically you buff your sword with fire and then go into a combat art combo with a buffed firesword.

>>725553851
meant for this anon>>725553631

>>725550985 (OP)
improve and git gud

>>725553841
I'm being intentionally vague because I don't want to spoil
List the prosthetic tools you have

>>725553851
based floating passage enjoyer. i'm on ng+4 and still don't bother using any art besides fp. the combat arts in general are all dogshit and some of them have no business consuming spirit emblems

>>725554094
Nigga the game is 20 years old I'm not playing it for story.

>>725553841
The whistle that’s shaped like a finger

>>725554243
Shame
Story is fun
The prosthetic tool you get from killing Guardian Ape

>>725553851
Sounds great, since I've been playing blind I don't know just how many skills and shit I missed or I should have, I'm right before the Guardian Ape but I think I also stumbled into other areas that are meant for later
>>725554094
Shuriken
Axe
Poison Sword
Flame cannon
Umbrella
Fire Cracker
Mist Raven
The fan

>>725554243
Why the fuck would you reply pretending to be another person you fucking faggot?

>>725554243
NIGGER

>>725554341
Nope, you don't have it yet

>>725554430
>>725554482

>>725554158
It got a buff after release to where it now does damage even if an enemy blocks it, maybe some other buffs too. But yeah being able to combo after buffing with flame vent or even just buffing using the monk candies gives it tremendous value. The double ichi is very good combat art as well, good damage if not just for keeping your posture low during long boss fights. Praying strikes is good for building up the enemies posture bar, like O'rin. And nightjar reversal is good for getting in and out.

The real problem thing is you should be able to equip more than one combat art at a time. Like let me set neutral + l1 + r1 to be floating passage, backwards + r1 + r2 to be nightjar reversal, and forward + r1 + r2 be shadow rush. To me that would greatly increase the gameplay (its already really good though)

>>725554507
My arm tree is looking like this, I feel like I'm missing a ton of shit given the point of the game I'm at. Maybe I should try to complete some questlines, everyone has DragonAIDS

>>725554846
You get the spear from the one storage shed kinda near the moonlight tower by the castle. You need some key that you get from beating a miniboss or something (I can't remember). The whistle you will get after beating the ape. Those are the only two you're missing. Should probably get the spear before the ape fight, it can help.

And if you are at the ape, you could get floating passage back in Hirata Estates near the beginning if you got the carp scales to purchase it.

>>725552395
>>725552458
the most useful prosthetic is flame vent, at least once you have living force
completely btfos nearly all minibosses and helps greatly against most bosses or strong normal enemies

oil -> flame vent is very powerful
if you have living force you can skip the oil and maybe combo it with floating passage, spiral cloud passage, sakura dance, sabimaru or whatever you think of

>>725554846
You are missing 2
You are at the point of the game that you should have those missing 2 as well
Dragoncancer will not be stopping obtaining Prostheses. And does not stop a lot of things unfortunately/fortunately
Search up Loaded Spear imo. You've probably passed that

The finger ring/whistle... you'll get it soon

>>725554846
>Maybe I should try to complete some questlines, everyone has DragonAIDS
Most people I think just leave the dragonaids until they beat the boss of the area. No point of curing it then going to die 5 more times against the same boss of the area just to have it applied again.

But also this is a souls game all the side quests are obscure and as obtuse as can possibly be so sometimes you got to use a guide.

>>725555121
>back in Hirata Estates near the beginning if you got the carp scales to purchase it.
I forgot about the guy in a bucket, I haven't been back in Hirata since I beat Granny Butterfly
>>725555342
Yeah unless they unlock some important shit (I doubt the fat retard in Mt. Kongo unlocks anything important for example) I might just skip them, I'm not gonna cure it now that I'm at the ape though. I was just worried of trespassing a point of no return for some of these questlines in classic From fashion

>>725555162
>oil -> flame vent is very powerful
Plus you get those items from the headless that give you the re-usable monk candy buffs. Basically can buff fire and strength for floating passage. Floating passage also goes great with bestowal ninjustu for the same reasons as flame vent. Anyways glad to see it get some love int his thread. Too many fags say that combat arts don't matter in Sekiro while completely sleeping on one of the best offensive tools in the game.

>dropped the game during the maintenance/update schedule
>noticed car started leaking oil overnight
>just drops but it's all over around and underneath the oilpan
>welp at least it's not burning oil
>get it serviced
>turns out it was just a valve cover gasket
>actually luckshitted my way out of an expensive repair

anyway how's the update

>At least it's on topic
Anyway, each time you die for real in the game OP you should restart from the beginning.

>>725556043
:|

>>725550985 (OP)
>>725553774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j28rSAcH9o&t=47s
This is what I meant by anti-air deathblow
You need to be expecting it to be able to perform it
It's a skill you buy from the same guy that gave you the Umbrella
If Black badger is nowhere to be seen/has closed his shop, go to the Offering Box at the Temple next to Hanbei the Undying
>inb4 "who hanbei?"
tutorial guy
He actually has a prequel manga fyi

>>725555876
ako's is pretty good for a first playthrough. i also feel people underrate the blue candy, helped me immensely for ogre
bestowal is amazing with some of these combat arts yea

i honestly dont blame people because sekiro does a bad job at encouraging players to do stuff other than L1R1, theres a reality where way more people would do it but theres a few silly aspects about it
For starters, emblems not always resetting to full on idols. A pointless timewasting mechanic at best, that makes you spend 5-10 minutes grinding to buy hundreds. In practice though? Most people dont notice just how worth it is to buy hundreds so instead they dont use prosthetics freely for the entire playthrough, which is plain silly
Another thing is early game prosthetics. Many tools like the axe will be comically shit at low levels, except extremely powerful against specifically shield enemies. So it really makes a lot of people think they are exclusively hardcounter or cheese tools

the game really should have placed some more incentive for certain concepts like
>lets have an early game enemy that gets btfo by anti air shurikens (other than lady butterfly)
>lets make the early game axe start really good as a heavy attack instead of only getting decent at the high upgrade levels
etc

>>725556264
I think you break the monkey's posture with a shuriken while in the air anyways, the hard thing is to bait it into actually jumping

>>725550985 (OP)
If you are talking about that fucking monkey in the swamp(right outside from the 2nd snake's lair) you can land behind him and backstab him by swinging from the branches that are above him

>>725556402
Yes, shuriken can do that
Anti-air deathblow however is as advertised:
When the enemy goes airborne for some big attack, they tend to pause for like half a second
In this moment, if you jump you have the opportunity to kill them in 1 attack

Their HP or posture status will not matter
it's a 1-shot

>>725555121
>>725555162
I just went and got floating passage, is it good at base level or should I wait? I like using Mortal Draw, unironically

>>725557019
Nothing will trump Mortal Draw
No one knows why, but mid-air Mortal Draw does more dmg
i.e jump, input buttons for Draw in the air

>>725557325
Okay, anyways thanks for all the help guys, the combos you can do in Sekiro look fucking insane but I still haven't even attempted to learn any of that, I'll try to pick up the shit I missed

>>725557019
its okay by itself but mortal draw will be much stronger
floating passage is best paired with something like Living Force that lets you augment your weapon with something that synergizes with multihits, or bestowal for crowds something

>>725556341
Yeah I definitely agree that emblem should just reset. The way they work in practice is either you're bad at the game/still learning and you don't have enough emblems (which is the time you actually need them) and then later when you're actually good at the game you have too many emblems. They just need to reset like your flask, that would be such a simple solution.
>>725557019
Mortal draw does good damage but it costs 6 emblems for its full two-hit mortal draw combo. It's too expensive for normal enemies if you ask me. And even against bosses if just doesn't last that long. A living vent + floating passage combat

>>725555876
I just used overhead smash over and over and it floored everything.

>>725556043
... What update?

Nine Sols is a 2-D attempt at replicating Sekiro's combat
Honestly it does scratch the itch
The story's great too
Go in blind if you can

>>725550985 (OP)
i have no memory of this thing so you must suck

>>725556043
I have the same issue I think, I just noticed my car drips a few drops when it's jacked up and the oil pan is oily all over

>>725558389
Nine Sols is fantastic. It's a shame people (especially around here) will sit around with their fingers knuckle deep in their nose and say it's an inferior version of Hollow Knight and nothing else.

>>725559210
It's the sword monkeys from the poison swamp

>>725550985 (OP)
Stop hesitating

>>725559847
I think it’s a superior version of Hollow Knight because the story is cooler and I like good combat more than good platforming.

so what kind of setting is sekiro anyway? alternate history with low fantasy elements?

>>725563841
Alternate history with mythological elements. Spirits are real, some yokai are real, land guardians are real, demons are real.

>>725564069
Im just kind of confused about how sekiro handles mythology. The game has oni, but they're not like the actual mythological demons they're just big monster guys who get called oni because, well, they're big monster guys. And it seems like other yokai like tengu don't exist in this setting either.

Should I kill the snake in my first playthrough? or does it not matter?

Sekiro was so fucking good bros

>>725564386
Yeah but the monsters are otherworld monsters still. The spirit women that kill you for answering their questions are right there. If you piss off the mountain god, he eats you. Hell, the tenets of buddhism appear to exist and those with particularly rancid karma can turn into horrors.

>>725564449
Snakes are for an ending, if you aren’t going for that ending it doesn’t matter.

>>725563721
On the whole I would tend to agree with you there. Nine Sols has some very nice characters and the combat feels so much better to me. It's clear the difference between what elements the two games focus on. I do admit that HK has better exploration overall, but like you said that matters less to me than the writing and combat.

>>725564693
Nah I just wanted to kill for fun

>>725565178
Doesn’t matter either way, then.

Op, if you haven't figured it out yet, the best strategy in sekiro is forcing enemies into blocking when you can. Their options are limited out of deflecting you compared to neutral. Don't give them time and space to breath, if they're blocking you you are eating their posture for breakfast, when they finally deflect you it's your turn to defend.

>>725565407
Yeah I figured something like that, I got spoiled the whole "hesitation is defeat" line so I kinda had that idea, I've been refighting Genichiro to get my muscle memory going as well. God this game has such good combat, and I probably haven't even scratched the surface because I mostly stick to R1-L1 and jumping+Mikiris and my prosthetic and skill upgrades are shitty >>725554846

>>725555162
>The most useful prosthetic is flame vent
Nope it's the simple shuriken because you can use it to keep the pressure and preventing bosses from ever regaining posture and also it cosit 1 emblem

>>725559847
its not an inferior version of HK as theyre aiming for different appeals, but putting them on the same level is also a little silly
>>725563721
a lot of people would rather play a game with its own combat and hitbox-based stuff instead of something that is way too much of a shallower sekiro really
but i love the talisman attacks and jades
>>725567302
the shuriken is great, but between an useful gap closer and an absolute boss raper, ill have to go with the former
also, flame vent is always strong. shuriken gap closing is usually worse than being able to keep the pressure up by just swinging the sword and going forward all the time which is almost always doable on any boss, so it falls off in relevance when you are playing too well

>>725567815
>go with the former
the latter*

>>725551487
>Uses fire item on an enemy that is literally on fire
>huh this item must be useless

The worst part is this motherfucker is going to insist he's superior and intelligent once he beats this simon says trash.

>>725568304
this post is actually stupid because firecrackers are actually the most effective prosthetic against the bull, specially given its a beast