Thread 725553321

Why don't gamers use Linux tho?

Because of anti cheat and a big percentage of gaymers want to be able to play their compslop games.

>>725553321 (OP)
people have been using windows all their lives and dont know or care for alternatives, it's the default OS for 99% like google is for search engines

>>725553321 (OP)
I have it on my old ThinkPad to play around with the OS and on my Deck. Ironically I stopped using my Deck in favor of my Rog Ally X because the latter is Windows based and easier to use.

>>725553321 (OP)
There's a word missing on the title: poorly.

>>725553321 (OP)
i also draw furry images on my computer and my drawing software of choice is unavailable on linux and i'm too lazy to learn gimp (i tried it before and it's fucking dogshit)

>>725553321 (OP)
if only everything on linux didn't take hours of tinkering most normalfags would have made the switch already

I don't wanna buy a new game and have proton shitting its pants because it's not compatible + Nvidia gpu

>>725553321 (OP)
gamers cant install operating systems

>>725553887
playing pirated games on linux is next to impossible
most cracks simply do not work

>>725553321 (OP)
Mods

>>725553321 (OP)
I already do, I have a deck.

>>725553321 (OP)
Because people who dont consume dont count as gamers. Also they want linux gamers on bleeding edge unstable operating systems cause you know you gotta cumsoom

>>725553321 (OP)
i dual boot because im not a retard like everyone who isnt me.

>>725553664
krita is a much better art program than gimp. its on windows as well

>>725553961
My entire stolen gog library & iso library work fine. Use lutris dummy

>>725553961
>freetards have to paypig all their games
its so beautiful

>>725554316
Krita is fine, but it's trash compared to Photoshop or Clip Studio Paint.

>>725554316
You can't really compare them, one is mostly for drawing the other is more for image manipulation, I use both for different tasks

The best is having a windows pc and a linux pc and use them both. I play the majority games on my windows pc but for serious stuff I use my linux machine. Its only 3-4 grand every few years than cannibalize the parts as you upgrade.

>>725553321 (OP)
HDR

>>725553321 (OP)
Because you don't

>>725554316
i tried it and it's really mediocre, it also doesn't works well for me because it's clearly designed for tablet use only and i draw with a mouse

>>725553427
The only good competitive games are cs, dota and deadlock. All run on Linux. People competing in non valve games do so because they suck

>>725553321 (OP)
Zoomers are the most tech illiterate generation, moreso than boomers. Do you expect them to know how to type on a keyboard to do basic commands? Or the fact that they have to use a mouse to install shit through Discover? Just look at >>725553605

>>725554534
works on my machine arch btw

>>725555217
I'm >>725553605
and I'm 35, been using Windows since 3.11
I know enough about Linux through playing around with it to know that I'm not going to bother using it for gaming when I have decades of experience on Windows. Linux is fine and fun to play with but outside of my x250 having Mint and my Deck I am not making any effort with Linux.

>>725554997
the only good competitive games are AFPS and they all run on linux*

I rather use macos and not play games at all

>>725553321 (OP)
Linux is shit.

I'm a gamer and I've been using Linux since 2019.

>>725553321 (OP)
People are afraid of the terminal, the public is not interested in the philosophy behind Linux and just want something that boots the thing they want to use, incompatible with a lot of anti-cheat software, zoomers do not want to jump through hoops to play/use the software they like (generation raised on Android/iPad), most people accept the OS their PC came with and just press the upgrade button when the time comes to do so, Linux does not come prebundled with PCs/Laptops, learning a new OS is a chore, Linux can be very uneven in terms of quality, screensharing does not work (you would be surprised to know how often zoom-zooms sit in a discord watching each other stream vidya), etc.

There are many and multifaceted reasons that hold Linux back. It is sad, but at least it is not going to get ruined like Windows, gaming, anime and all the other hobbies that normies destroyed.

>>725556025
Embarrassing, totally lost all curiosity and interest even before half your life is over.

>>725556819
>lost all curiosity
>already said twice I installed Linux to a Thinkpad to mess around with
I'm just not fully converting to something I don't need to. Why would I do that? In what world does that make sense?

>>725553321 (OP)
Believe it or not most gamers are NOT tech savvy and just use the OS supplied with their system.

>>725553321 (OP)
>nearly 90% of gamea run
Keyword is
>run
Not
>run flawless

sell me on linux
what do I actually get with it.

90% of games run on linux*

*if a game has no native linux version, it runs at 75% speed of the native windows version at best or 25% if you have an nvidia card, by chance you also installed a distro that doesn't support the games YOU actually want to play because not every distro has all of the required dependencies / workarounds / hackjobs for every game

>>725557691
lmao, what other lies do you want to tell us

>>725553321 (OP)
"Runs on" literally just means the game boots to the menu without crashing, it doesn't mean it's playable or even comparable to a windows install.

>>725557264
>what do I actually get with it.
A headache.

>>725557264
sudo

>>725557669
i don't want to learn about computers, i want my computer to just fucking work

I use Linux on my desktop, games are not an issue. It's other software that causes issues, as stuff is often Windows+Mac.

>>725553450
>like google is for search engines
Name a single search engine that is as good as pre-AI Google without merely being a different Google frontend *coughduckduckgocough*

>>725553321 (OP)
Kernel level anticheat doesn't work nice with it and Battlefield Of Duty almost always has it now.

That aside give it time, the other large reason is the stigma where people assume Ubuntu doesn't have a desktop and search function that works like Windows' used to back when it actually could find files when you type out a partial name or directory.

>>725557264
Once you know the ropes and set stuff up, you're free from Microsoft's Pajeet insanity (accounts, splash screens, antivirus breaking programs, whatever might have annoyed you). You open up to opensource commie insanity though.

>>725557691
>>725557978
i installed linux late last year and i have had no issues running any game
and that includes esoteric shit like skautfold or siralim
i don't get why people keep saying stuff like games don't run or run wrong

>>725553961
Anon I've been on Ubuntu for about 2 years now and it's a cold day in hell when I buy a game. Just about EVERY pirated installer can be added to steam, ran through Proton, installed, then the game itself can be added to steam and ran on Proton.

>but that whole sub 1 minute of active effort is too much!
Enjoy your copilot and feature creep until it annoys the fuck out of you.

>>725558653
>>725558595
What about my original disc from 25 years ago?

>>725554316
Going from my pirated Photoshop CS6 to Krita was such a downgrade I immediately uninstalled.

>>725557264
Any further bullshit Microsoft puts out will no longer effect you in any meaningful way.

>forced updates
>more resource consumption
>more telemetry
>ads
>God knows what dumbest shit because they sure ain't improving with time

>>725558723
It runs Heroes of Might & Magic, Arcanum and Diablo 1 with fewer issues than Windows 10 enterprise/last one I used. No artifacts, no broken menus, no discoloration at random.

>>725558307
>as good as pre-AI Google
The "pre-AI" prefix being mandatory is a real tragedy.

>>725553961
>>725554324
Do you retards just make up bullshit just so you can feel vindicated by not using Linux? If you don't want to use it don't use it. Don't just fucking lie on the Internet like that. I've been torrenting and running games like Turok 2, DoA 5,the Tomb Raider Collection, etc on my Ubuntu build for like 5+ years now.

This is shill tier misinfo you niggers are spreading.

>>725558824
I am asking about installing from my original discs, not how the games run.

>>725558653
>he didn't take 10 seconds to uninstall copilot
And you claim windows users are lazy.

>>725558653
>Enjoy your copilot and feature creep until it annoys the fuck out of you
LTSC exists with none of that shit and will continue to exist because windows, whether microsoft likes it or not, runs on a lot of critical infrastructure.

Because Linux trannies spent many many years building a reputation for the OS that it's completely incompetent for gaming. While everyone else was playing games just fine on Windows, Linux troons had to cope with glitches, bad performance and having to jump through hoops just to run anything more advanced than Tux Kart.
Also a game being able to "run" is one thing - stability, performance, the level of tweaking you need to do and various things like frame pacing, visul glitches or quirks that can pop up from trying to emulate windows on Linux are another issue.
People don't want "90% of games kinda work", they want "99% of games work perfectly".

>>725558943
It's more like they used it for half an hour, never Googled how to update packages and never did a copy/paste to actually update them because terminal is so scary pasting in a single command that gets all your drivers for you instead of hunting them down across manufacturer sites on Windows is preferable.

That and fags here keep suggesting Mint and shit with way more setup than necessary for a "I just want it to work" gamer.

>>725559131
you typed this on a nvidia pc

>>725553321 (OP)
>how would you like to assemble your own car every time you take it out for a drive?
>exciting right? but wait it gets better! you have to assemble it while blindfolded
>what do you mean you just want a car that works?
>don't you want to be forced to check every nut, bolt and hydraulic connection yourself to make sure they aren't loose?

>>725558307
Pretty sure duckduckgo is a frontend for Bing.
Or at least, it was.

>>725558184
>i want my computer to just fucking work
Then just get a Mac. Oh wait, those pieces of shit can't even run games in the first place.

>>725558653
Linux users don't know how to debloat. Sad. Takes way less time than installing and learning Linux.

>>725558595
Every now and then games need workarounds that you need to look up, because without knowing the inner workings of Wine, it's impossible to guess. Just a 2-3 years ago even basic stuff like Skyrim i Steam didn't run without extra configs. And with other launchers (EA or GOG) you're completely on your own.

>>725553664
Post more of your art

>>725558886
So I'm not retarded and Google search did actually become worse?

>>725559015
I have no idea but if it works just like an iso (it should) then you put your disk in, open it like a folder in the drive, then do with Proton as I said.

>>725559025
>Need thirdparty tools to turn it off
>can't even turn off Windows Defender
>toggle is a literal illusion of choice
>deleting it bsds your whole system
>search bar gives Google results not file directories

>>725559031
I don't care. I'm a gamer. All I want to do is game. Thanks to Valve going all in on a Linux OS I can plug and play my games- especially old 90s crpgs- with less issue and workaround than when I was on 10 enterprise.

>>725559163
Haha, I wish Windows still let you install drivers yourself. Now you have all the pajeetware automatically installed with no chance to intervene.

>>725559228
The obsession over bloat borders memetier

>I don't have to get it "just working" myself?
>that means it doesn't have my flavor of resolutions to make it work
>its a bloated piece of shit- works out of the box- do not use.

People forget a lot of Windows to Linux pipeline are people who just want it to work and do not give a shit about engaging further beyond it just works.

>>725559412
You don't need third party tools to remove copilot. You're digging yourself deeper with every post that you actually have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>725553321 (OP)
I use linux on my handheld

>>725559616
@grok hey is it true you can actually turn off copilot with Windows' in menu toggle, or does it still remain running in the background anyways? What happens if I try to delete Copilot functionality?

You might want to ask AI to spoonfeed you an answer.

>>725559412
>all i want to do is game
>goes out of his way to install linux
You are such a disingenuous retard.

>>725554316
I'm a windows user and I still use krita cause its free, initially i was using it to get used to my tablet but then I realised if i switch to csp i'll have to go through the learning curve of another program so I just stuck with it. Anyway i vouch for it.

>>725559721
>Windows makes itself so unappealing I picked up Ubuntu
>my old boomer games plug and play better now
>my CPU isn't being used for mystery processes
>any "They fucked up again" tier update or feature will never effect me again

I've been on Windows since 97. Tell me when they fix their search bar and Diablo 1 can launch.

>>725553321 (OP)
Scenario A:
Dedicated gaming machine. You treat it like a console: It's for Steam games and nothing else. You want it to boot straight into Steam and you don't want to need a keyboard and mouse. Likely a living room HTPC setup. Desktop or min-pc form factor, AMD hardware.
In this scenario, Linux works better than Windows. Bazzite-deck makes for a flawless "steam console" experience. Updates are seamless, occasional, and never force you to reboot. The overlay and gamepad controls are better than anything you can set up on Windows.
Everything just works. Highly recommended.

Scenario B:
You play games but also use the machine for general desktop tasks, creative work like image and video editing, office stuff, maybe work, maybe you like to generate AI pictures to goon to. It's a laptop with an Nvidia optimus switchable graphics setup. You play a lot of non-Steam games (other launcher or pirated).
In this scenario, you're better off with Windows for the time being.

>>725559714
I'm not referring to a windows menu toggle either. Again, you're just exposing yourself more with each post.

>>725553321 (OP)
The behavior of normies can be directly tied to how easy it is to get usable celebrity b-roll of something and also convey to normies what that b-roll is supposed to represent in a way that is normalfag friendly.
How are you going to sponsor Linux celebrity b-roll for a distro that isn't genuinely awful to use on account of needing to conform to preconceptions formed by Windows and also needing to pay for that celebrity b-roll?
VR also can't work for the same reason.
>>725558886
SEO already ruined Google, so pre-mid-2010s and pre-evil are probably necessary additions

>>725559923 (Me) (Submitted too early)
Many people fall somewhere between A and B, and there's a cutoff point somewhere between the two where you're better off with one or the other. That point is changing in Linux's favour each year but Windows still has a place for now.

>>725559957
Me exposing what I apparently don't know I'm on about isn't at all exposing you can't even use a basic tool to educate yourself to such an extent you think that toggle isn't an illusion and you think you can gut out copilot into a nonfunctional form while having an OS that still boots.

Mindbroken

>>725559879
Literally played D1 Hellfire from gog a week ago on w10 ltsc.

>>725560162
How's that magenta treating you?

>>725560148
>schizobabble
Why is it always jeets?

>>725553321 (OP)
Because Linux is for trannies

>>725560240
>I don't know what in on about
>I'm gonna pretend like I'm a tech support jeet

>>725560224
wut?

>>725554997
People want to play good games not valveslop

>>725560352
10 literally cut run it without incompatible display issues. This is why teal and magenta across old games on modern Windows are a well known scourge.

>>725553321 (OP)
Because of those last 10%

>>725560314
>in on about
Saar

>>725560534
>Be Windows user
>So mindraped by basic facts you have to make shit up
>so far gone everyone who isn't as retarded as you must be indian
Stupid nigger

>>725560449
If it was there i didn't notice it, generally felt the same as i was playing it few decades ago on shitty squared celeron pc.

>>725553321 (OP)
Linux distros should not become the majority of users because if they do Microsoft and other big companies will crush it through bogus legal action and Indian scammers will start targeting it. Let the normals stay in their containment OS.

>>725560715
Share how anon, you've done the impossible.

725560667
Saar do not redeem the windows Linux is very good.

>>725559303
Yes. Google's main goal is to force-feed you ads, but they noticed that people mainly used the first few search results. Thus, now you don't get what you want with your search, so you try the second page that has more ads to forcefeed you which repeats as you move over to the next page.

Google is one of the primary sources used for the term: enshittification.

>Tripling down on being a retard caught acting like a retard
Pathetic.

>>725553321 (OP)
You are literally asking smartphone users to install platform that require setup shit to work.

>>725558653
>Just about EVERY pirated installer can be added to steam, ran through Proton, installed, then the game itself can be added to steam and ran on Proton.


you call that easy? fuck that really.

>>725561552
If you think that's hard wait until you need to go to a torrent and copy the hash because magnets don't play nice. It's so frustrating and overwhelming dude, just like spreading butter on toast.

>Linux for gaming threads
>AYEEE WINDOWS IS SO BAD SWITCH LINUX LOOK AT THIS IMAGE ABOUT PAJEETS
>AYEEE LINUX IS SO BAD FOR USERS LOOK AT THIS IMAGE ABOUT PAJEETS
>AYEEEE MUH 5% OF GAMES WITH SHITTY ANTI CHEAT
>AYEEEE
>AYEEEE
A few quick balanced facts
Windows 10 isn't over yet. You've got another year if the situation with 11 is that bad for you. Windows 11 will also be forced to iron out bugs as more users switch to it. Like anything, they either sink or swim as the majority of 10 users that hadn't switched over floods the mark.
Linux is not as bad as shitposting shows. It is harder than any Windows install on average, but the necessary knowledge required is peanuts to pick up. If you've ever debugged anything on Windows you already have the common sense required to do it. Probably hold off if you've got Nvidia and think about switching to AMD given driver situation, though Nvidia drivers on Linux are getting better every day.
And finally, privacy IS a valid concern and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you're concerned, switch to Linux, but don't think Linux is a magic fix either. Prolly look into removing google and microsoft usage in general out of your day to day life as well.

>>725553321 (OP)
all the anticheat games i want to play dont run on linux
having to fuck around with proton versions for every game was really annoying aswell

>>725558307
>pre-ai google
gtfo newfag. google has been shit long before ai was even a thing. its probably been shit since something like 2010 or 12. back then you were able to find literally anything you searched for

>>725553321 (OP)
Run != fully playable

>>725558217
For future reference experimental runs 99% of games and the 10.+ beta runs the other 1%.

Lutris can function as a workaround for anticheat where Proton can't but I'm not comfy with it and wouldn't call Lutris new user friendly. Star Citizen doesn't support Linux anymore but has documentation to get it running. Battlefield 6 however will not work because of the servers it phones home to- notably among the 3 is a new one in the form of a server in India it wants to interface with.

>>725559231
This shit happens on Windows too though. Looking shit up to fix some old poorly made game is nothing new regardless of your OS.

>>725554316
Never understood all the shit krita gets. It's great.

>>725558653
I uninstalled Copilot and Onedrive faster than it takes a tranny to hunt for a command line.

optimization is still hit and miss

you are locked out from most multiplayer because EAC doesn't work on proton last I checked

>>725562975
If you truly gutted Copilot your OS wouldn't be launching, anon.

Normies getting into PCs has lead to normies thinking an off toggle means it's actually off.

>>725553321 (OP)
There have been a lot of hiccups, stuff getting used to, and compromises, but it's been great

>>725562418
>fuck around with Proton version
I've been on Linux for a year and the only time I had to do anything Proton related was switching to GE for MHWilds when it was brand new. That's it. Everything else works after just pressing Play.

Still not using linux

>>725553450
This is the correct answer, disregard the autistic meltdown replies.
Linux also has a reputation (understandably so) of being complicated to use, it is only fairly recently that
>it just werks
alternatives are actually available (like Bazzite for example).

>>725563427
why

>>725563379
For me it was updating my 4070 drivers a few days after game release. Was kinda fucked until then.

>>725563185
EAC works. I play Elden Ring online without issue.
It's kernel level anti cheats that block you. Mind you, it's not a compatibility issue. They explicitly deny Linux on their anticheats.

>>725563185
I'm on ARK and Arc Raiders just fine and both have EAC. The latter runs natively in Linux, no compatibility mode needed.

>>725553321 (OP)
https://reshade.me/

>>725554268
Same. Helps to have it around for the odd issue but otherwise its all linux all the time.
Windows is such a pile of dogshit I'll never go back

>>725553321 (OP)
There's no reason to use it.

>>725563460
They prefer to samefag on behalf of a company that pushes out mandatory updates to fix workarounds and further limit user power while further increasing load on their CPU.

BOY I SURE CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY SAINTS ROW 2 ON MANJARO.

OH BOY I CANT WAIT FOR GOOGLE TO USE A FULL CORE TO GATHER ADSENSE DATA!

>>725563697
Not only is reshade extremely niche, but also it works without issue on Linux. The setup is not exactly the same as on Windows but it's not any more complicated.

Windows is to the PC market what Apple is to the phone market.

If you buy a phone for someone that doesn't know tits from tails you get them an iPhone. If you buy a PC for someone that doesn't know tits from tails you make a few hundred in the builders' fee and brainlessly slap the latest Windows OS on it.

If they know what they're doing and want to tinker or have the options open to allow it in the first place you won't be building them a PC and they probably own an android.

Simple as.

>>725563441
It doesn't help for a long time the wider linux community actively worked to ensure new users had a miserable time as possible.

In the good old days you'd get shit like;
>hello help & support forum, i've recently switched to debian and XYZ isn't working, any help?
>FUCK SAKE NEWBIE, READ THE FUCKING DOCS
>I did and the documentation refers to version 0.32 of the software but my fresh install is on version 1.4 and the program ignores a lot of the variables the docs mention
>FUCK SAKE NEWBIE GOD HOW HARD CAN IT BE?! IT IS WELL KNOWN 1.4 IS BUGGED YOU NEED TO RECOMPILE 1.3 FROM THIS TARBALL USING THE FOLLOWING FLAGS TO AVOID A DEPENDENCY LOOP AS IT RELIES ON AN OLDER VERSION OF X.ORG
>okay how do I do that?
>RTFM [thread closed]

It straight up has taken ubuntu dragging linux to the desktop kicking and screaming for nearly 20 years that it got in a good enough state smart gamers actually care enough to use it and things have imp[roved from there. Oh and the support of a multi-million dorra corporation who isn't Red Hat.

>>725553427
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hhwSCa-RKl0

I built a PC with an AMD GPU this year (9800X3D / 9070XT) so I could main Linux. The only outstanding issues I have are:
Racing wheel support is poor and EA are RETARDS who won't let me play EA rally on Linux.
Setting a custom refresh rate for my monitor is trivial in Windows. My monitor is 165hz but it doesn't natively support 120hz. Setting a custom refresh rate in Wayland is a pain and I'm just too lazy to actually try.
Apart from that, Linux just fucking works bros.
VRR works
HDR works
Latency is identical to windows (I tested it myself with a 1000fps camera)
Games (mostly) work

>>725558653
Is there a fully offline alternative for this?

>>725554316
I think gimp got decent with its latest version, but its problem is that is has a very ass UI that requires to put some time to learn it. Unless you are doing some heavy duty commercial work, there is no reason to use Photoshop anymore. Gimp and Photopea are good alternatives. Also, Winboat on linux looks promising as well. Its an linux program that will run windows programs that dont run well on linux like adobe shit, and AutoCad

>>725553321 (OP)
>run on Linux
>yep main menu boots at inconsistent 30fps
>slap a Gold compatibility award in the database
>another win for loonix gaming mirite?!

>>725553321 (OP)
>why don't you play on the OS that doesn't support 10% of the games
gee I dunno

>>725567197
lutris, heroic, bottles, just using wine manually
take your pick, any proton frontend will work

>>725553321 (OP)
cause linux is doo doo. even more so than wangblows.

>>725564373
People actually buy iPhones? Like, not just a few fanboy paypigs, but actual people, people as in big numbers of people? They are like 4 to 10 times more expensive than some random motorola that does the same fucking thing.

>>725564421
Ubuntu and it's rigid design philosophy where everything sucks and none of it can be changed has been keeping Linux down. It was Arch Linux and Valve building on top of it that actually has made Linux desktop relevant.

>>725568063
Status symbol. Seriously. Its global too, it's why 9/10 its more profitable to resell your old phone than trade it in toward your new one, the chinks buy them up and resell them in China

>>725568954
Jesus Christ

>>725563971
>Not only is reshade extremely niche
Wat
>but also it works without issue on Linux
Not RTGI

>>725553321 (OP)
>as Windows 10 dies
?

I just enabled 3 more years of security updates on my Win 10 PC for free with MAS. Win 10 is only dead if you're a retarded techlet who's never brought up the command prompt in his life.

>>725553321 (OP)
>car turns on 90% of the time, why doesn't anyone want to buy it?

>>725553321 (OP)
They don't even know to update their drivers, they can't use linux and deal with compatibility layers.

>>725569721
are you talking about LTSC?

>>725553321 (OP)
I love to repost this pic because I get different responses every time

>>725559923
Microsoft's only growing segment is Scenario C:
The user does not own the system, it is owned by a net cafe, and runs on bargain basement hardware.

Right now this is usually a low-end Intel + Nvidia system running Windows.
A lot of the business decisions Microsoft has made around switching to a subscription services model and ad-supported operating systems are due to this reality.

>>725553321 (OP)
literally because of developers not allowing the games to run on it, aka anticheats, i would otherwise.

>>725568284
what are you smoking? how is ubuntu holding you down? it's most supported distro.
it's just linux kernel and software. you can do anything you want. moron

>>725563971
>reshade extremely niche
Lmao.
>also picrel
Double lmao.

>>725570249
but hey, printers work now!

>>725570093
No, I'm talking about MAS. https://massgrave.dev/

>>725570323
So Fortnite, BF6, and League? You're probably better off sticking to Windows.

>>725570249
No doubt choice has its downsides, but it is better than
>You have no options, and you will use what we dictate you will use. Downgrade your system or face end of life.
If you need a corporation to dictate what your distribution should look like, Valve has stepped into that role.

>>725570273
Microsoft doesn't give a single fuck about non enterprise entities, you as individual customer doesn't fucking matter to them at all, which is why using non enterprise windows versions, let alone paying for them, is being an absolute sucker.

>>725570706
Ah. Got you. Thanks, anon.

>>725570459
when people say ubuntu they mean the gnome version usually which is horrible

>>725571198
Yeah, that's true. Gnome sucks donkey balls but you can easily install KDE although KDE or Cinnamon.

>>725571364
I would like to use KDE but every time I see screenshots of it I get physically ill. I must stay with Xfce.

My computer is a tool to help me enjoy my hobby and not the hobby itself. Linuxfags will never understand.

>>725570249
Wayland is a scam btw.

>>725564373
>If you buy a phone for someone that doesn't know tits from tails you get them an iPhone. If you buy a PC for someone that doesn't know tits from tails you make a few hundred in the builders' fee and brainlessly slap the latest Windows OS on it.

Not quite. If you've never used a smartphone, iPhone and Android are equally alien. If you've never used a computer, Windows and Linux (and Mac) are equally alien. Any of them will require some EFFORT to learn how it works. But then, most people are not starting from a clean slate: they have already learned know how to use the most popular system, so learning an alternative is seen as additional effort.

Remember that linuxfags love their mandatory, attempt-to-change-and-everything-breaks software. It is why systemd took over.

>>725563379
why the fuck are you lying?
i used cachy has my daily driver for 2 months and every game needed some tinkering

>>725570249
Like, if you're winfag, it's just
>what audio system I install audio drivers from my motherboard drivers page and everything works, if I want to use some external audio card, I install its drivers and everything (actually everything) works as well
>what display server I just install video card drivers and everything works
>what is a widget toolkit?
>it just werks
>what damn init system grug pushes big button on PC case and 10 seconds later everything is ready
>if for some reason I don't want to download exe files and click on them twice like a proper human bean, there's always chocolatey
See? Simple. I want my computer to make sounds, I want my computer to show moving pictures, I want my computer to run games, movies, IDE, modding tools, anything. I don't want to think "how" because it doesn't matter, only the end result (or its absence) matters. And it. Just. Werks.

>>725570249
The last one bothers me the most. Get your act together nerds!

>>725570618
>Russian Federation
Now I'm imagining holdouts in snowy Baba Yaga-type houses using an ENBSeries cocktail on their Aliexpress Xeon setup

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>>725553321 (OP)
linux used to actually suck i remember it was hell with all kinds of shit going wrong i would not have believed you if you told me it would just work how it does today

>>725553321 (OP)
Nobody wants to be the guinea pig. It's like using an AMD GPU when you could just pay slightly more for a Nvidia card and have no problems

>>725553321 (OP)
>nearly 90% of games on steam will "install" and not run because steam obfuscated the only on linux alert message
FTFY

>>725571686
The majority of Linux users are running distributions that come pre-installed on devices, require no tinkering for the intended mainstream use cases, and just work.
Valve is on the way to making this true for Linux in the PC gaming segment.

>>725573798
source: trust me bro

>>725553887
Use Lutris to install your pirated games, the installation is faster than it would be on Windows and I'm using a Intel CPU with a Nvidia GPU.
Oh and Linux literally fixed the colors of my fucking screen, Windows sucks for SDR content

>>725553321 (OP)
The average normalfag is too retarded to use it. Case in point:
>>725553887
>>725553961

>>725553887
kill yourself

>>725553321 (OP)
Tech illiteracy

>>725553321 (OP)
>90%
is that recent releases or actually all games?

>>725553321 (OP)
We do. Normalfag "gamers" use windows still though.