Thread 725573806

Which DRM is worse?

game kike card, literally just a waste a time for everyone

All DRM is bad.
I dream of a console that is entirely DRM-free

>>725573806 (OP)
Game key cards literally make no sense. It's just digital with pointless steps.

>>725573806 (OP)
this is what happens when millions of retards openly brag about pirating and emulating instead of keeping a low profile like they fucking should, they ruin things for everyone

>>725574258
>Translation: DRM is bad because I can't pirate

>>725574512
It's bad because it makes it really annoying (or impossible) to backup my vidya.

>>725573806 (OP)
Having a switch 1 & 2, the virtual game card system is tolerable.
I'd prefer being able to just play all my games on either console freelywithout dealing with it, but it's fine.
Better than system-locked games like Wii/Wii U/DSi/3DS
The game key card is retarded because it is resellable only from now to when the servers go dark, and doesn't reduce the amount of console storage space it takes to play the game.
Even those Switch 1 games with required updates to play the entire game at least save you a few gigs of internal storage.

>>725573806 (OP)
is this NFT or videogames? I do not understand

>>725573806 (OP)
Top is just digital game shareing.

>>725573806 (OP)
>Before I could just turn on my second switch and boot up my games, only had to download/sync save data
>Now I have to give myself permission every time I want to play my own games
>Can't do it unless both consoles are online
My playtime on my Switch Lite dramatically dropped after this shitty update.

>>725573806 (OP)
Probably this...
>Buy a 'physical' game
>It's literally a cartridge with a redemption code
>Not only have to download the game
>But requires you to have the dummy cartridge installed

If it wasn't for the fact that Nintendo never losers their digital prices, this is pretty much the equivalent, but with extra steps.

>>725573806 (OP)
This

>>725574985
At least with video games, you can actually interact with them.

NFT's are/were straight up a scam to push Etherium bitcoins they were based on.

>>725577140
you didn't actually answer me though??

>>725577000
>>725574274
It's a step up from digital since you can sell it.

>>725577103
>Thinking you're actually 'buying' software
This has been debunked decades ago. Steam is still one of the better--if not best, digital storefronts by virtue of being able to manipulate your library. Pretty sure Origins or Uplay doesn't allow you to install/backup your games on a headless VM instance.

Otherwise, you NEVER own software, and never will unless you program it yourself.

>>725577352
>Selling a jpeg
>Selling a license to a jpeg

Cool story, bro...

>>725577532
Thanks.
>>725577425
No steam is actually the worst since you can't own any of the media you purchase. It's all entirely digital downloads.

Physical media is the worse drm. Having to keep track of slowly degrading medium to play my game is ridiculous.

>>725577425
You don't have to purchase a game from a PC storefront to mod it

>>725577845
Worst is actually full digital since you can't own what you purchase

>>725577691
you don't own any console you purchase
you have to be a retard to choose to have toy hardware over obsessing over easily crackable software

>>725577992
Actually I own every console I purchased and and my PC as well. I didn't chose anything over the other.

>>725578282
you don't own your consoles
if you did you would be able to connect them to the internet after reclaiming even a tiny portion of the functionality pcs have after jailbreaking

>>725574274
What really rubs people the wrong way is how they went out of their way to manufacture cartridges and then cuck you out of your game. It's the equivalent of booking a hooker, getting all hyped up and when the time comes she gives out a paper note with the link to her OF then leaves.

>>725578585
>you don't own your consoles
Just checked and I do. Did you mean I can't crack the hardware and continue using the Internet? Yeah I already knew that.

>>725577853
The only other storefront that comes to mind is GoG, but hose include only a handful of AAA games, and you still can't sell/trade licenses as if you owned them.

If any and/or all of this bugs you, then you probably shouldn't be playing video games. Even with old-school cartridges, you only ever own the physical plastic, but not the game itself.

This is all besides the fact that modern video game development is antithesis to physical media.
>Company gets a game into a barely playable state
>Sends game to get discs stamped
>By the time a game is sent versus when consumers actually have them in their hands...
>The developers would have squashed major bugs
>Just about every game nowadays needs day-one updates

>>725579401
you have conditions to using your hardware that pcs don't
therefore you don't own your consoles because daddy console corpo decides what you can and can't do with them

>>725574258
You don't have a Dreamcast?

>>725579706
It had DRM it was just ineffective.

>>725579552
That just means I have more conditions on my hardware that I own.

>>725579847
if you own it then why can it be disabled remotely?
the answer is you don't own it, you're coping because you're too stupid and blind to see the fine print

>>725580246
Because being disabled remotely doesn't mean you don't own it. For instance, your steam account can be disabled remotely, and that's not why you don't own your games.

>>725579706
>For years think this is cool and awesome
>Then later realize I was playing butchered copies with data missing or compression of assets to fit a CD ROM

>>725580461
I don't care about being able to resell plastic, the files can be easily sourced and unlike you i'm not lying to myself about this shit
consoles have objectively less functionalit than pc and jailbreaking them isn't illegal yet a corpo has the right to dictate what you can do with your shit
you discriminate on this basis to gloat about your plastic but you refuse to apply it to your toyboxes
either digital is ownership or you don't own your consoles faggot
can't have both

>>725581149
Actually you were the only person lying during this entire reply chain.
>either digital is ownership or you don't own your consoles faggot
Digital isn't ownership and I own my consoles. I have both because both are transferrable licenses that were transferred to me. You have neither because your entire library is a non transferrable license that runs from a webpage, and also because you're a PC vegan which means you're not allowed to own things.

>>725581723
if you can't own digital games because you can't do whatever you want with them then you don't own consoles because you can't do whatever you want with them
cope, seethe, etc

>>725581885
False if/then

>>725574564
>backup my vidya
Grow up.

>>725582105
I did
and now some of my old vidya doesn't work and I don't have backups to be able to play them.

>>725580879
If you can make a clean cdi then it's fine, the real problem is that the data "playback" speed expected of GD-ROMs is far faster than a CD but of course the console doesn't account for that because it thinks you're playing a game and not listening to music lol
And you will wear down your optic laser way quicker as a result

>>725582037
>n-no
you lost
your console has built in DRM
steam games have built in DRM
the difference is violating one is trivial and takes less than a minute while violating the other bricks your device and requires years of work from the community
you don't own your console

>>725582215
>>Noooooo, I need to replay a 20 year old game I've already beaten 10 times, I'm going insannnnnnnne
GROW. UP.

>>725582549
>I AM SILLY!

>>725582549
I thought consoleniggers liked physical due to preservation.

>>725582391
Owning means having a transferrable license. Owning doesn't mean being DRM free. I own my consoles and media, you don't own anything, PC vegan.

>>725582668
>>725582549
>>725582391
>>725582215
Would you fucktards just shut the fuck up? You're both wrong AND retarded.

>>725582826
owning means not being subject to a non-governmental ruleset
it's not property if it has fucking terms from its makers retard

>>725574464
this, also if the ps5 could be emulated they would be chimping out as well, by all those 5 exclusive games pirated.

>>725583127
Objectively false statement.

>>725577532
>selling a jpeg
You can’t give that jpeg to other people anon

>>725583267
as opposed to your retarded and narrow definition of ownership that only serves to jerk you off?

>>725574512
Servers have been shut down, Sorry, your key card will no longer function.
Just stop being a supreme idiot and you won't have to get your ass kicked so hard.
>>725582105
That made no sense. Get help.

>>725583587
Correct your statement was objectively false, as opposed to my statements which are objectively true.

>>725573806 (OP)
As a pokefag I actually like the Virtual Game Cards. Before it was kind of a pain in the ass to play the DLC. All the DLC for the games is on my Switch account, so if my daughter was playing anything digital on her switch, then if I tried to play digital things on mine, it would kick her off. Don't have to worry about that now because I can just give her the digital game card and not have to worry about it.

This website doesn't know what DRM is

>>725584084
ownership includes both the right to transfer and alter the goods
you don't get to pick and choose what it means so your toyboxes look better

>>725584243
>ownership includes both the right to transfer and alter the goods
False. you don't get to pick and choose what it means so your toyboxes look better.

>>725584454
i'm at no point arguing that i truly own digital games on the same basis you don't own your consoles
you don't get to say you own something if there's a non governmental third party dictating terms of use and that applies to both steam and every single console

>>725583925
>your key card will no longer function
this
i can't wait to see all you tendies crying in 2084 when your drm shit for your toy tablet stops working

>>725584697
I'm not saying anything. I'm simply reciting factual information about owning media formats.
>well if I can't say I own it, then NOBODY OWNS ANYTHING NYAAAAAA!!!!
Are you six? Did you just shit a diaper or something? I'm not conceding btw, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. Sorry you figured out just now that steam is just netflix prime video and kindle of the gaming world.

>>725585501
you should start reciting factual information about owning hardware
you don't get to cry about digital while all the ugly shit about physical is hidden with how draconian the hardware itself is

>>725586738
Looks like you're the one crying. I have no issues with DRM.

>>725587678
then why do you obsess over game ownership so much?
face it retard, consoles only have physical because it's inherently a cucked and limited platform
you can't copy shit easily and you have the disc in at all times
if you actually had the freedom of pc you'd have limited installations, cd keys and all the other gay shit pc physical games had before they died

>>725587982
>then why do you obsess over game ownership so much?
To troll PC vegan cultist such as yourself.
>consoles only have physical because it's inherently a cucked and limited platform
I prefer walls around my garden, yes.
>you can't copy shit easily and you have the disc in at all times
I know. Don't care.
>if you actually had the freedom of pc you'd have limited installations, cd keys and all the other gay shit pc physical games had before they died
I already have a PC, thanks though.

Steam should sell sd cards that do this

>>725588538
and i don't care about owning easily reproduced and crackable software when the alternative is being a console goyslave with a complete black box operating system
consoles are matthew 7:3, a complete retardation of priorities

>>725588850
Yes you do. This is the 80th time you've argued with me about this and it's not about to stop any time soon. You're obsessive about this topic and you can't handle any console owner boasting about the benifits that consoles have that PCs dont. This is because you're a PC vegan.

>>725589084
if we trace this post chain it leads to you being mindbroken about steam enough to post the same image 20 times lmao
steam is winning and you're mad

>>725585343
>Still alive by 2084
giwtwm

>>725588706
someone post that one steam deck pic

>key cards literally have the worst of both formats
How can tendies even defend this shit?

>>725589327
I'll post it another 1000 times if it keeps making PC vegans such as yourself shit their diapers in a blinding rage. You're furious with me and I'm chill.

>>725589708
hey, you're the one mad that consoles are finally exposed for the raw deal they actually are
you're going to seethe so hard once physical dies out on consoles too because you can no longer whiteknight your tendie overlords

>>725589614
Nah, keycards is the best it gets if you have to get a game digitally. It's almost like owning your media, but not quite.

In order

Fully on cart/disc > keycards > pirated digital > PC storefront digital

>>725574512
Yes, but If they're getting a better experience than the people that actually paid for your product. That is a major problem. Getting something for free was something the pirates were willing to through hoops for. Now they're being rewarded for bad behavior with better performing games.

>>725589936
>you're the one mad that consoles are finally exposed for the raw deal they actually are
Did something happen recently or is this just the same level of seething you always carry towards consoles? I have no problem with PCs so I'm not sure why you're furious with me. Are you a PC vegan?

>>725574258
>I dream of a console that is entirely DRM-free
You're dreaming of a PC.
The whole point of consoles is that they're DRM boxes

>>725589614
>How can tendies even defend this shit?
They would defend Nintendo murdering their parents if it came to it.

>>725589614
I can defend it because it's better than traditional digital. Really easy to defend actually.

>>725590094
yeah, your toymakers have released an absolute worthless shitbox and you've gone into overdrive coping about owning a license to a bunch of files because that's literally the only remaining value of consoles

>>725589948
Are you retarded?
>have to be online to play it
>have to change the key card each time you want to change game
>if servers get down it's ogre
>if key card breaks gets lost its ogre
>have to wait the shipment and the download
It has all the disadvantages of both worlds

>>725590315
Thank you for conceding that media ownership exists on consoles and is a value.

>>725590564
The advantage is that Nintendo's profit margins increase, which is a good thing since they're my friends.

>>725590564
Thanks for starting with a lie. It saved me the time of reading the rest of your post. Do you value honesty?

>>725590630
it's a value when you're dealing with untrustworthy consolenigger corpos that seek to resell you your games over and over
not that consoles are actually good for playing those games

>>725590564
>>have to be online to play it
Only to download it. Once it's downloaded you don't need to be online to play it.

>>725590662
Having to manufacture a cart will lower profit margins. Do you still not know what profit margins are? I though I taught you that yesterday

>>725590838
>it's a value
I agree.

>>725590867
It costs my friends at Nintendo less to manufacture a cart with a smaller storage than it does for larger ones. Which is why I want more games on the GKC.

>>725590971
It costs Nintendo more to manufacture a cart than do nothing and have the same game fully digital. Keycards exist because they're more consumer friendly than fully digital but it costs more to make.

>>725590965
yes, because console ecosystems are low trust society shit with homeless crack addicts and physical games are the equivalent of anti homeless spikes
completely unnecessary if you weren't in that low trust shithole

>>725591206
>yes
Glad we agree.

>>725591140
But it costs them less to make those than put full games on carts.
I hope the next Mario or Zelda game aren't on the cart and cost $90 so my friends can make more money. You're a snoy if you disagree.

>>725589948
>It's almost like owning your media,

>>725591269
>I AM BEING SILLY
have fun. I'll be here when you settle down and want to discuss things honestly.

>>725591268
glad we agree consoles are inherently shit and would be complete garbage without physical

>>725590845
.....just like steam

>>725591341
Yes because you can sell it and trade it, etc. It's not confusing at all.

Why would you buy a no games console like shitch 2?

>>725591415
>glad
Me too.

>>725574512
how's those boots taste faggot???
>if buying isnt owning than piracy isnt stealing

>>725591367
What's there to discuss? You'd defend them if they did that, and I hate you "people" so I'd love for them to do just that.

>>725591486
All you need is permission from Nintendo to play their game. It's just as good as plug and play. Which is why we defended Nintendo, until they changed their mind so now we defend them for that thing we shat on snoy for doing.

>>725590747
Yep
Tendies are retarded

What is the benefit of a Game key card over a regular physical card? Is it just that the devs and nintendo make more money?

>>725591457
Yup, just like steam in that regard. What's your point?
>>725591539
To play video games.

>>725591661
Yes. Which means it's actually a good thing since Nintendo making more money is what the tendie craves.

>>725591683
>To play video games.

>>725591617
I'm glad I fill you with hate. It honestly gives me a mini dopamine high.

>>725591661
it's much cheaper to put the bare minimum amount of memory on it to give you the equivalent of a download link than it is to ship the game itself

>>725591773
>>725591642
Sure.

>>725591683
See >>725590564

>>725574670
>The game key card is retarded because it is resellable only from now to when the servers go dark
You can still download Wii games as long as you've bought them anon.

>>725583925
>Servers have been shut down, Sorry, your key card will no longer function.
>>725591972

>>725591970
>>725590747

>>725592070
>Servers have been shut down
They look fine to me

>>725591972
That's a good strategy to spin this news. Sure Nintendo said their games would all be on cart, and sure they went back on that in less than half a year. But that's all in the past now and we need lines ready to defend Nintendo in the now. I think this can work...

>>725592203
Storefronts and matchmaking services were shut down but the CDNs are still up.

>>725592325
Nintendo doesn't own Pokemon

>>725592091
Dumb nigger
The key card is USELESS without online because you NEED online to download the game.
God are all tendies this dense? Or just lol im le ebin trolololo xD?

>>725592489
>The key card is USELESS without online because you NEED online to download the game.
So steam and all PCs are useless? Got it and glad we agree.

game key cards are the worst digital product ever made

>costs more than digital stores
>creates a bunch of plastic waste for no reason
>nintendo servers always get shut down quick so these cards will be useless in 1 or 2 gens from now

>but you can transfer it so its better!
you can just login to your friends account or create family accounts with many digital stores, this is actually worse because you cant do that

>>725592489
If you don't have access to the internet why are you buying video games? Find some public wifi or use a hotspot.

>>725592579
Without online
Yes

>>725592473
Yes, we all know that Pokemon was never a Nintendo game.
Think the anonsnoys will buy it?

every single console is looking to shed physical games and the writing is already on the wall
how the fuck do consolegroids not see this shit already
without them they have nothing, not a single console corporation is worth trusting and unlike pc you have zero recourse for anything

>>725592689
Yes.
>>725592774
Doesn't look like it. They're still rejecting reality as we speak.

>>725577103
Why do people post this like some kind of gotcha when everyone has known this since like 2004.

>>725573806 (OP)
Regardless, Stop Killing Games finally lost!

>>725592887
Who are you monologuing to? You don't have an audience and nobody is going to find your post from a google search.

>>725592657
>just pay for not owning nothing breh

>>725592892
Handwaving anything Nintendo does away is the best defense we have for our friends, true.

>>725592917
I just spent an hour with someone in this very thread who didnt know this. PC vegans aren't very bright.

>>725592991
the subject of the thread you fucking mong? does every post need to be targetted at specific posts?

>>725593075
Sure.

>>725593103
no you didn't nigger
your obsession with owning plastic is cope for how little you actually control on a cucksole

>>725574512
Even if I authentically purchase the product, there's a slight annoyance.
>click to boot up game
>loading... (checking servers)
>your game is not up to date, pls install patch
>you aren't using the latest system firmware, pls update
>pls pick the correct user this software was purchased under
yeah yeah it's trivial but GOD I miss those days I can put in a cartridge and it would immediately start.

>>725593028
Would you rather force devs to keep servers alive for games no one will play? No wonder Europe's government turned down SKG

>>725592917
Hey here he is, he just replied to me
>>725593256

>>725593313
You mean those servers that key cards also need?

>>725593371
tendie typing style just fucking oozes of reddit
i thought you actually meant to disengage but no, you're genuinely that retarded to think you were winning something

>>725593423
They've kept the license server and CDN up for all of the consoles they've removed storefronts from.

>>725593313
>tendoid doesn't understand skg
fitting
got your takes from the ferret fucker?

>>725593516
Sure.

>>725593669
As opposed to a grifter who wanted nothing more than to kill live games to own da gubment? That same "gubment" that rightfully told him to fuck off?

>>725593669
To be fair nobody understand SKG because "preservation" is the entire goal and preservation just means piracy. No, they are never going to legalize black markets.

>>725593547
Until they don't

>>725593868
what the fuck are you talking about you dumb fucking nigger
skg is still being processed
live games aren't being killed, you just have to release your damn server files after you're done supporting the game
tendies are genuinely pathetic

>>725584130
Why don't you just buy your daughter her own copy of the game/dlc?

>>725594165
Considering how massive the Switch's eshop has been for them compared to their older systems there's a good chance they keep moving this one forward for the foreseeable future. We'll all be dead before the CDN gets spun down.

>>725594090
preservation means dump your fucking files to the public if you're no longer selling it
this is literally all you need to do, one fucking guy uploads shit and you're done

>>725594352
Why would I buy the same games twice?

>>725594165
Why do you worry for something that has never happened before?
Hell, after 19 years you can easily pirate those things, in 19 years you will be able to pirate switch 2 games don't worry sprout.

>>725594174
>skg is still being processed
Anon... the European government rejected it today
>>725594174
>live games aren't being killed
You say this, but...
>you just have to release your damn server files after you're done supporting the game
which shows your ignorance of game development. You cannot realistically keep servers up.

>>725594487
So you both can play at the same time, maybe even play multiplayer together cheap fuck

>>725594512
>>725594354
You already posted it here >>725593028

>>725594646
Did the EU reject it or are you talking about the UK rejection from a few days ago? I'm not seeing any stories about the EU. It'd be funny if it did get rejected since fuck these speds.

>>725594739
But i own a license and it has been working for 19+ years
You're all hypotheticals that has never happened

>>725594461
>preservation means dump your fucking files to the public if you're no longer selling it
That's what I said. Preservation means piracy.

>ah cool it works like a normal physical cartr-
>Ejecting a game from one system and loading it onto another requires both consoles to have an internet connection.

What the fuck is this my guy
Is this really the new norm???
Also
>6 months later and the console hasn't been pirated yet
It's absolutely and unironically fucking OVER.

>>725594646
>Anon... the European government rejected it today
absolutely no fucking source from you nigger
i found nothing supporting your shit unless you're a fucking retard that believes it's about the uk's starmer government or that they would do anything to begin with
>You say this, but...
but what nigger?
you have absolutely zero obligation to do anything as long as you're still selling a live service game and it's functional
>You cannot realistically keep servers up.
you're not keeping them up dumbass, you upload the server files to steam and you're done, no action from you required past that

>>725594991
>Preservation means piracy.
how the fuck can it be piracy when the product is no longer sold?
take your fucking meds you alzheimers rotted octogenarian

>>725595116
Its over for poorfags, actual tendies just bought it like it was Monday

>>725595228
>I should be able to get this game for free on the internet
Yes it's piracy that you somehow want to legislate to be legal. Just pirate the game you fucking retard.

>>725595405
again, piracy is acquiring software through illegitimate means
how can you have illegitimate means without having legitimate means?
the game is no longer sold, you're not taking potential revenue away from anybody

>>725595116
Yup, just like how buying steam games requires internet.

>>725595127
>you're not keeping them up, you're just... keeping them up
Not surprising a pro-piracy tranny who abuses the n word like it's the estrogen he takes is incapable of reading

>>725595584
You can always buy second hand. Not because something isn't currently being officially sold means you can't legally obtained elsewhere

>>725595584
>how can you have illegitimate means without having legitimate means?
Easy. You can have illegitimate means without having legitimate means. That's how.

>>725593313
Offline mode? Private servers?

To be fair I don't think SKG specified anything. What exactly is an "offline alternative"? How can you really enforce that? You can't promise a 1:1 experience in offline mode. And giving server code away isn't exactly user friendly or even safe (as there has been precedent of hackers compromising private game servers). Who the fuck would want an offline/local MMO? Only losers with attachment issues to skins and levels and shit.

>>725595817
>second hand
PC vegans can't do this because of non transferrable licenses. They're trying to fix a problem they caused with the exact wrong solution.

>>725595928
SKG makes themselves vague on purpose. It's a known grift.

>>725594920
Vs actually own a thing you buy?

>>725595958
Wich pc game you can't buy right now?

>>725595775
>n word
the absolute state of tendoids
hosting a fucking server file for people to download costs fucking nothing compared to actually having the game still live and running
look up aws hosting costs

>>725595817
how do you buy second hand files to something that's NO LONGER BEING FUCKING AVAILABLE TO PLAY
this is objectively not piracy because that would imply an official avenue where there isn't one
also buying shit off used hardware scalpers is fucking low iq

>>725596043
You can't buy any PC game second hand because you can't own any PC game.

>>725596093
steam lets you play games you bought 20 years ago on brand new bleeding edge hardware
show me that from nintendo or sony or microsoft
if you can't then you don't actually own your games

>>725596089
>removes the ability to own media
>can no longer buy media second hand
Not my problem.

>>725596093
You didn't mention any game

>>725596193
>I must defend my friend PC from criticism by deflecting for the issue that PC games can't be bought second hand

>>725596220
Point still stands. You can't buy PC games second hand.

>game cartridges/discs
Resellable license that most of the time do not require an internet connection to be usable
>Game card key
Resellable license that requires an internet connection to become usable
>Buying digital
Non-resellable license that requires an internet connection to become usable

Game card keys are bad, but not as bad as digital.

>>725596290
digital games can't be second hand due to their infinite durability
your piece of plastic will wither and decay
if they were transferable they'd be so good that the market for "new" digital games would die overnight

>>725596368
I gladly accept your concession

>>725596509
I'm not conceding anything. Sorry.

>>725573806 (OP)
On consoles, you'll want everything physical if you really care about the games you're buying.
Sure, if you buy a digital game for $2.99 on sale, it doesn't matter, but if you're going to spend $80 on Mario Kart World, then you'll want the full game in the "cartridge", it's that simple.
Game key cards are digital games, so you won't buy them. Digital products can only be purchased on open platforms.
For example, I bought an ebook yesterday on a website. This ebook is now on my PC's SSD, on my ebook reader, and in the cloud. I have three copies of this ebook, so I know that my access to it is pretty secure for years and years to come, and I can open it on any device that reads epubs.
You can't do that with a digital copy of Mario Kart World. You'll only be able to download that copy on a Switch 2 with your account logged in, and that's it. Game Key Cards at least allow you to move the game to other accounts, but you still depend on Nintendo's servers and the eshop that will one day stop providing you with your $80 game (pic related).

>>725596492
>the market for "new" digital games would die overnight
Good

>>725596659
bold of you to think you'll have a choice 10 years down the line consolecuck
you'll have digital only consoles with the worst possible masters and you'll still defend it

>>725577425
>Steam is still one of the better--if not best, digital

>>725596890
I don't get it. It digital so fucking bad that you're now threatening me with it?

>>725594726
We already do and did that. The problem was always that we had to jump through hoops to do so. I had to be offline, and then she could go online. With virtual game cards, that's not longer an issue at all, because the games (and DLC for those games) just stays on her console.

>>725597307
valve lets you play 20 year old games on newest hardware
now do you think nintendo and sony will extend those courtesies to you?

>>725597520
Valve doesn't need to, you're already forced to upgrade OSs and cards every 5 years for $2000 minimum. not you tho, you're poor as fuck, pirate out of necessity, and playing on the same build you got as a graduation gift 16 years ago (its a laptop) :)

>>725597748
>actual schizophrenic meltdown and projection that missed the point of it being free and infinite backwards compatibility
you really had no response there huh
you people really have no idea what the purpose of hardware upgrades even is nor what level of performance a $2k every 5 years gives you

Why is a PC vegan seething in a thread about consoles?

why is a consolecuck negroid upset that a board where 60% of the population is pc users has conversations about pc?

Game cards are literally an improvement over normal digital copies

Game cards allow you to lend and IIRC even sell your digital copy of the game, it's actually a surprisingly pro-consumer move from Nintendo

Boggles my mind it gets so much ire and not always online DRM or Nintendo locking retro games behind a subscription

>>725598390
This board is 60% PC vegans. You will hear them seething constantly at everything that isn't PC.

>>725598390
game cards are literally boiling the frog on taking away the one thing consoles ever had

>>725598563
No it isn't lol. It's a temporary fix for ridiculous tech prices. And STILL better than traditional digital

ITT: trans (physical copy warriors) vs trans (piratefags) shitflinging

>>725598732
you're delusional if you think anyone wants to keep making physical in an age of blazing fast internet speeds and bloating file sizes
the end game for consoles is digital because of how much cheaper it'll be, cope all you want about it

>>725598886
Have you ever been correct about anything in life? Look where you are. Look at how your life unfolded. Look at how angry you are constantly at everything.

>>725599019
do you legitimately believe that sony, nintendo and microsoft want to involve the entire fucking supply chain instead of just downloading shit off a server?
no, it's a cost cutting measure across the board and they all want it long term
they're boiling the frog, it's inevitable

>>725599304
I'll take that as a "no"

>>725590845
No it needs to verify once in a while.

>>725574464
Zoomers and Alphies are the reason we can't have good things anymore. Little shits love to brag and rat everyone out in the process.

>>725599565
you got fucking filtered by occam's razor lmao
legitmately delusional if you think they'd rather put in orders for plastic, discs, cartridges, distribution costs and retailer cuts over just setting up a server to download games off of

>>725599772
Nintendo literally just put in orders for plastic when they could have done nothing and let devs release straight to their eshop, and it's called key cards, and you're furious at their existence

:D

>>725600025
because they can't get away with it yet
but they will
are you autistic? do you need to have things spelled out for you and can't read between the lines?

>>725600276
Get away with what? What's so bad about digital :)

>>725600426
you lost that argument already consolecuckie

>>725600567
No I didn't, PC vegan.

>>725600694
yes you did
pcs are infinitely backwards compatible and have innate consumer protections due to their built in freedoms

>>725600895
Same with consoles. Even my NES still works.

>>725601076
you can't play nes games on your switch 2 without paying again
if the games are even there that is
you're completely dependent on nintendo even letting you do things
that's why console digital is bad, you have almost no control over them to begin with and when digital takes them over you'll have zero
meanwhile valve has to offer good service because the alternative is resurgence of piracy and collapse of pc gaming as a whole

>>725601423
>you can't play nes games on your switch 2 without paying again
>if the games are even there that is
>you're completely dependent on nintendo even letting you do things
Nope all my games still work. Try again.

>>725601531
can you not read? your library doesn't carry over to new hardware and that old hardware isn't going to last forever

>>725601635
>your library doesn't carry over to new hardware
I literally don't care what hardware I'm pushing buttons on.
>that old hardware isn't going to last forever
Yes it is.

>>725601863
>I literally don't care what hardware I'm pushing buttons on.
sums up console mindset quite succinctly
complete apathy and lack of technological understanding, driven entirely by consumerism, no interest in actually playing games, just the søy reddit aspect of taking a picture posing in front of a shelf
i'm done with you, you legitimately have nothing

>>725574512
This unironically

Isn't Steam stop supporting Windows 10? Or it just the 32 bit version? Isn't is the same as 'Nintendo server stop working in the future so it's bad'.

>>725602101
Buh-bye sweetie!

>>725602275
>Isn't Steam stop supporting Windows 10?
no
>Or it just the 32 bit version?
the last time a 32 bit cpu was even produced was almost 20 years ago
>Isn't is the same as 'Nintendo server stop working in the future so it's bad'.
linux will always be there and you can still install and use steam on 7 if you're willing to follow instructions

No one ITT is cis

>>725573806 (OP)
Is Nintendo doing this because they're anticipating a shortage of semiconductors due to China being belligerent faggots toward Taiwan?

>>725605339
no theyre doing it to scam their simps

>>725607638
Keycards are less of a scam than traditional digital so that's false