Thread 725656730

The new Steam console is here.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

Can you play games offiline on Steam Machine??

worshiping the motherfucking saturnian cube???????

>RDNA 3
DOA.

>>725656730 (OP)
>arm processor
holy fucking shit they are genuinely legit revolutionising gaming

>>725657324
Current consoles are RDNA2 lmao

>>725656730 (OP)
>dogshit specs that dont even match current consoles

>make cool panel
>not for sale
fucking retards

>>725656730 (OP)
>powerful pc gaming made easy
Apparently the glorious pc masterrace is desperate to the point it reached proselitism levels. Consoles and Windows have the easy approach more than covered; DoA

>>725657358
are you retarded?
it's a Zen 4

>>725657358
Holy shit it’s just like the Atari VCS

This shit is going to sell like 300k total

>>725656730 (OP)
Told you fags it was going to be a thing.

>>725657601
Valve loyalists are going to call it a success just like the deck lol

Didn't they already make this? I don't remember what it was called, but it's the reason that awful fucking big picture mode shit exists.

>plays all xbox games
>plays most playstation games
>plays most nintendo games
Consolefags can finally step into the first world of gaming. There is 0 reason to own any other console.

>>725656730 (OP)
The Gabecube

>>725657601
They will surely produce less than that.

>>725656730 (OP)
so what makes this different from just owning a PC?

>>725657662
Deck is a success tho, it even kickstarted an entire niche

What is the point of consoles even when PC can run everything?

>>725656730 (OP)
>1 Gigabit Ethernet
>DisplayPort 1.4
>HDMI 2.0
Dead on arrival, fucking last gen ports

>>725656730 (OP)
Next gen Xbox PC got competition.

>>725657713
most likely a lot cheaper

>>725657663
Steam Machine as well. The difference is that they had a retarded controller and could only run native Linux games (aka useless)

yeah Deck kickstarted the handled mania didn't you know they were the first handled?

>>725656936
yes, like you can on steam PC and steamdeck?

>>725657673
>1 Shekel has been deposited into your steam account

>>725657842
>most likely a lot cheaper
but in the case of a PC, that means its much weaker no?

>>725657761
Laptops have been around since before you were born tho

>>725656936
Of course you can, i can play shit on my deck offline 90% of the time.

>>725657761
Chink handhelds existed before, anon

>>725657421
PORTAL 3 CONFIRMED BABYYYYY

can someone remind me why the pclard race is trying to sard to replicate a half-assed console-like gaming experience and then going out of their way to pretend that they are not actually doing this?

8GB VRAM, i think not. maybe the next revision, when my own hardware will be so old it would be at least a minor upgrade without the hassle of buying all the stuff myself

>>725657846
>trannyme picture

>>725657713
cheap
can be used by low IQ consolefags

>>725656936
>tranime
can you fuck off?

>>725657918
well yes but it's probably $400 for the 512gb model vs $1000~ for a low end pc.

>>725657708
I'm gonna start calling it that from now on, way catchier than Steam Machine.

>>725657776
No windows or shit running in the background.

>>725657814
>another one sided defeat for microsoft/Xbox
lol lmao

Cool. What exclusives did they announce for it?

Microsoft was right people want boxes. Not that obviously designed by a woman, looks like a vagina PS5

>>725657976
english?

>>725656730 (OP)
I'll say the same thing I said for previous steam machines and the steam deck: I already have a PC. Had a steam controller before, track pad is stupid. My 8bitdo is everything but the trackpad so I don't care. VR is neat though, will keep on eye on it.

>>725656730 (OP)
Impressive. Very impressive
Now lets see the price.

>>725658006
thats just a steamdeck, this is going going to cost more than a steamdeck by a large margin otherwise theres no point in having both of them

>>725657453
current gpus are RDNA 4

>>725658054
they have god of war and the last of us 2

>>725656730 (OP)
How powerful it is?

Behold the face of steam lmfao

>>725656730 (OP)
>8GB vram
>in the year of our lord MMXXV
what the fuck is Gaben smoking?

>>725656730 (OP)
>troonmachine
it's a no for me

>it's just half a Series X

Specs?

threads moving so fast no one will notice i think denuvo is fine

>>725657761
Why are you valvetards so delusional? Fucking tendies of the PC world.

>>725657931
Not the same form factor.

>>725657960
And they were irrelevant. It was basically GPD doing their weird low powered shit and struggling to hit crowdfunding goals. Now you have a bunch of handhelds coming from big brands and they can actually play games.

>>725658006
Mini PCs exist already...

>>725658214
>Specs?
a half too

>>725658214
8gig vrm

Steam Deck has all the power I need for a system. There are no new games that interest me that require more power.

I am mainly a console guy but I still love my 'eck so I might give this a chance if it's powerful enough but cheap enough. Can't say I see the point THOUGH. The VR headset might be the first one I get.

>>725656730 (OP)
Based

>>725657960
Most of them were android based and the ones that could run Windows/Linux were easily above 1k

>>725656936
It's a PC not a console

>>725658006
why would they buy it if they can get ps5?

>>725656730 (OP)
saturn's cube

Should I buy this or a new compy with a 5070?

>>725656730 (OP)
>Gabe Cube is finally here
what a time to be alive

>>725658180
What are you fags even playing that requires a trillion GB of VRAM? 8 is more than enough for almost anything, unless of course it's UE5 slop.

>>725658268
>more expensive than the Steam Machine
>doesn't have Stream OS

No thanks.

>>725658363
Because if they put windows on it, they can run fifa worse than on their ps5 but without their monthly subscription

So what makes Valve VR lightyears ahead of every other VR model?

>>725658150
That's the whole point. It's a Deck but powerful as an actual living room console.

>>725656730 (OP)
>maybe it won't be a huge failure this time!
Just donate all your stolen money to a charity and retire, Newell, this is becoming pathetic

>>725658171
So this is what the average middle aged TF2 player looks like?

>>725658268
Those throttle and slow down like crazy if you use them for any games post 2015.

>>725658467
who cares no good vr games exist

>>725657306
look out your window, the gangstalkers are back

>>725658436
>more expensive than the Steam Machine
We don't even know how much it costs yet.

>>725658171
No, the face of PCfags.

>>725658467
it's a slightly better quest that doesn't lock you into a proprietary os

so are you going to be able to change out the graphics card or will it become obsolete in 2-3 years?

The Steam Controller is the only thing im interested in

>>725657761
What niche are you talking about?

>>725658465
>Because if they put windows on it
they can't due to low IQ

>>725656730 (OP)
Gay Ben today:

>>725657713
Retardproof, most people don't know how to assemble PCs.
And with how fucked the GPU and RAM market is right now because of AI slop scam companies bulk buying all the supply, it may be cheaper because of economies of scale.

>>725656730 (OP)
death to gabe fat piece of shit
i hate steam so much

>>725658259
>And they were irrelevant.
Just like the SteamDeck.

>>725657713
it doesnt

>>725658569
What features in this do you not find in other controllers? Do you actually use the trackpad?

>>725656730 (OP)
so its not half life 3?

How much?

>>725658667
you lost and got raped

>>725657483
Wasn't "Fremont" the name Laidlaw used for Gordon to avoid copyright in epistle 3?

>>725658561
>doesn't lock you into a proprietary os
steamVR is opensource?

>>725658712
yeah i do

>>725658601
What war? The fat fuck has the monopoly on PC when it comes to gaming.

>>725658268
And they are just regular PCs. Underpowered too. The Steam Machine is a console, with a console OS and comes all set up for gaming. Just download and play.

>>725658363
Why would you buy a PS5 if you can buy a machine that plays PC, PS5 and Xbox games? Not to mention all the other legacy stuff.

>>725658467
Not attached to F******k

>>725658569
magnetic joysticks means hall effect right?

>>725657713
it's basically a steam deck for people who travel a lot

>>725658712
trackpads can be modified to do a ton of different things, like being a circular shortcut menu or for macros

>>725656730 (OP)
Who is the target audience for this product? An underpowered 7600 seems wildly out of date? If this is more than $300 you might as well get a second hand PC no? But guess Gabe can do no wrong.

>>725658890
are you actually retarded

>>725658841
TMR is better than hall

>>725658763
the steam frame runs steamOS

>>725658890
>it's basically a steam deck for people who travel a lot
but thats what a steamdeck is for?

>>725658841
its the level above that, its more accurate and less drift than hall effect as well its what 8bitdo has been using for the past year now

>>725656730 (OP)
What's the equivalent to that GPU? And most importantly, what will the price be? Having two models with different SSDs already makes me think that the 2TB one will end costing close to $700.

>>725658572
Handheld gaming PCs

>>725658693
yeah anon, that's why you are coping about it

>>725658006
>can be used by low IQ consolefags
lol no it cant

If it's cheap enough I'll get it. Been planning on upgrading anyway, I'm using over a decade old hardware but been hesitant since the GPU market is absolutely fucked in my country.

le banana xD
why does /v/ bootlicks this literal ledit company so much?

>discrete semi-custom AMD desktop class CPU and GPU
Fucking finally.

wahhhhhhh I can't install the worlds most invasive spyware why would Valve do this to me!!!!

LITERALLY JUST FUCKING SPOONFEED ME

WHAT IS THIS

WHY WOULD I GET THIS INSTEAD OF A PC

>>725657713
Probably cheaper and plug n' play. You know, like a console. It's essentially a console but the hardware isn't locked down so you can use it as a PC.

>>725658712
maybe it actually has a good d-pad

Can I play those shitty korean mmos from my millions of launchers on this thing? I am quite fond of shitty fotm mmos unironically.

>>725659143
Because you're gay and probably black

>>725659073
Valve has been using that type of writing in TF2 and Dota since before reddit banned jailbait porn subs
They never changed
>>725659143
If you have a PC you don't need it
This is for the curious console player who wants to dip their toes into PC gaming but can't because assembling PCs is hard, prebuilds are a minefield, and the hardware market is raped by 60 AIsloppa Niggers.

>>725659143
Cheaper for one thing
Spend $500 on a full mid-range gaming rig or spend $500 on just the GPU for a PC

>>725658569
Same. My Dualsense Edge is on suicide watch right now

>>725657453
>No FSR 4.0.1
DOA

>>725659034
>Handheld gaming pcs

Is this a joke?
I really cant tell

>>725659143
>WHAT IS THIS
STEAM DECK BUT STRONGER AND NOT PORTABLE
>WHY WOULD I GET THIS INSTEAD OF A PC
IT LITERALLY IS A PC

>>725659315
google it

>>725656730 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA NO HALF LIFE FOR YOU
NOW BE A GOOD GOY AND BUY THE SHITCUBE I NEED ANOTHER YACHT

Too late, I already built my Steam Machine last year. But when I'll have to upgrade I'm considering it if it will still be a thing.

>>725659040
All they need to do is hide unverified games under a checkbox and it just works like a console.

My PC broke lately and I'm fucking sick of Windows. I've been absolutely fucking seething because of Tardows ever since my PC broke and I tried to repair it.
So I might just buy the Steam Machine if it has a good price and I can use it as a PC

>>725658984
>less drift than hall effect
they can drift?

>>725659481
Half life 2 cave.mp4

Honestly if it's like $500 this is a pretty good deal for many. Instead of buying a console for one game you could get this and play/emulate decades of great games. I already barely play anything modern enough to be demanding on my PC.

Any tech seers know if I can make this a aisloppa porn video machine? I don't wanna shell 2k for the nvidia gpu

price point is going to make or break this.

A steamdeck is like 400 dollars and still plays everything including expedition 33

>>725657547
He's talking about the Steam Frame using a Snapdragon as to be a standalone device.

>>725659283
>prebuilds are a minefield

I've used prebuilds since 2001, never had any trouble.

>>725657962
>soon™

I want to know the price for the thing.
Because you can already get a PC whit similar specs used for less than 500$.
Sure its a little bigger but i am assuming most people dont live in Japanese pods.

>console is cheaper than pc!
Whats the point when you have to buy like 10 of them

>>725659143
It's a console PC thing, probably way cheaper than a PC you can build for the same performance. It's for people who just want a console but with Steam games.

do we have any idea what the price will be for all this new stuff?

>>725659521
Depends on quality of the hall effect mechanism but they're pretty standardized nowadays. TMR's benefit is they're higher resolution and consume less power. ALPS joysticks generally behave better than hall effect, TMR behaves like an ALPS with no-drift and low battery impact.

>>725659521
rarely but it can happen

>there's an LED strip, y'all
IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY AN THEN WRITE IT AS L.E.D. NOT LED YOU FUCKS

>>725659591
all they have to do is be cheaper than snoystation

>>725656730 (OP)
Can't wait to install emudeck and play Melee on my Valvetendo GabeCube.

>>725656730 (OP)
Another ouya lol

>>725659295
Ey Tone, how can it be cheaper it it's just a PC?

>>725656730 (OP)
>Zen 4
>RDNA 3
Steamfags deserve it

I feel like they could've just released a steamdeck 2 with a beefed up GPU

>>725659740
you might be the only one who has an issue with this

>>725659740
english is dumb and most grammatical "rules" are nonsensical, who cares

>>725656936
You can't play games on it at all because it has 8GB VRAM lol

>>725659783
This is that

>>725659775
its not going to have all of fluff that a PC needs to have and economy of scale since all of the parts will be standardized

>>725656730 (OP)
>ARM CPU

>>725659851
this is a console, not a handheld.

the target audience

>>725658268
Can you show me one with comparable specs?

>>725659892
ARM is the future sis

>>725659819
The autism was pre-empted with Valve saying you can just turn it off

>>725659640
sneed deck was unironically perfect for my vacation sleeping in japanese pods and netcafes
i would totally use the cube in my campervan

>>725656730 (OP)
>Price: 999$

>>725656730 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0

>>725659315
PC vegans are that dumb. But that one is more on those tech consoomerists than vegans tbqh

>>725659819
>>725659828
basic english lsn't that difficult, but whomever wrote this shit is most likely someone from California so it's expected that mistakes will be made

>>725659143
People who want to get into the PC ecosystem but don't want to invest on a whole PC. This also helps Valve because they can now properly dip their toes into the console environment while still increasing their Steam userbase.

I hate it when they don't release the corresponding prices, what's the point of that?

>>725657948
>i can play shit on my deck
Can you play good games and not shit too?

>>725659775
...consoles are also proprietary computers, anon. Sony/Microsoft/whatever just places bulk orders on the same part x10000000 so they get a cheaper price.
>silicon manufacturer can only print so many wafers this year
>who do we sell to?
>the gaming division of Nvidia/Intel/AMD that will put them on retail so maybe a few John McGamers can buy a unit each
>or sell 6 gorillion units to MetaPerpexAuto, a startup that just got fifty bajillion AI investment funds and wants to bulk buy everything we make for the next decade
If they can order a lot of the same unit, it should be cheaper for the same amount of power than regular PCs. And if they don't lock this shit down like console manufacturers, it's a bonus.

'ick on 'ox

If they price it above 400 USD it’s dead on arrival. If they’re smart they’ll bundle everything together for discounts. The move should be to get people into their ecosystem and sell at a loss.

>>725659034
>y-you're coping
ah, yes; I forgot all those shitposts saying Deck was competing and going to destroy the Switch of all things these couple of year.

>>725657960
The steam deck has probably sold more units than every chinkheld combined. We' re talking like 4 million 'ecks vs like 5,000 ayaneo minis or whatever. The only reason chinkhelds are so cheap despite low production volume is because there's so many of them being resold.

people get consoles because they just want to come home from work and play something. this is perfect for that

>>725659783
The cpu on this alone has a 30W TDP. These specs wouldn't last an hour on battery.

>>725658171
accurate

>>725660064
my guess is they're gauging demand based on the wishlists after announcement. they can then put in an initial order with their suppliers for parts, and the amount they order determines the bulk pricing they get, which in turn determines how much they need to charge

>>725660253
bigger battery then

I mean

If it's literally just a gaming PC at half the price then of course I'll fucking buy it

I know the steam deck had a lot of success with proton, but they seem awfully confident about being able to run x86 PC games efficiently on Linux/ARM. Did compatibility layers actually get that bulletproof or are they retarded?

>>725660351
how can they make a gaming PC at half the price though? graphic cards alone cost 1k

>>725660064
because the economy is in flux and they don't want to announce prices they might have to backtrack on if things change
same reason nintendo waited to reveal the switch 2 price

and then 80% of the master race will mod it to look like mario's option cube.

>>725659560
Are you people being facetious or what, imagine a consolebro buying this shit and not being able to play his latest CoDs or Fifas because anti cheat not working. This is an incredibly niche product, and I don't even know what that niche is.

>>725658434
This will be connected to a 4K TV retard, you need more VRAM unless you are playing pixel indieslop

>>725659783
It still would never hit this performance target. It seems to be on the ballpark of a OC'd RX 7400 or a 2060 Super, so basically a PS5.

playstation has got to be shitting its pants right now

OFFICIAL THEME FOR THE STEAM MACHINE
https://youtu.be/0sa2R-PM0Uk

>>725658738
the whole video is full of these things, it's kinda like an ARG, they are definitely teasing something

>>725660407
>what is a loss leader

Where is the price? Valve are such amateurs

>>725660414
I have... Other ideas.

>>725658180
The reason we even need more than 8GB VRAM is UE5 slop. Daily reminder crisis needs 1GB VRAM and still look better than every single UE5 game.

>>725656730 (OP)
Can I download the Epic client on it to play Fortnite?

>>725659919
Is the old man dead? What happened? He would never, these are anti-valve products

>>725660152
whoever said that was a retard or just well poisoning, deck was always aimed at pc gaming nerds

>>725660407
economies of scale usually, though idk if it's enough to make this genuinely price efficient. i guess, at worst, it is literally just a pc and you can buy it for the things that are a good deal, and then swap in your own upgrades later

>>725657306
I'm not exactly surprised. it's pretty blatant though

>>725656730 (OP)
>Linuxbox
MS cheeks sweating rn, release the SteamOS Gabe and its trully over

Who'd want to play normal games on VR? If it wasn't for porn I'd barely used my Quest.

>>725657601
maybe, but the steam box is more 'pc' than the steam deck and means more development in general towards steam os.

as steam puts more money into steam os in general, it means a greater push towards more games being compatible with linux.

it feeds into my dream of steamos eventually becoming a legit full fledged alternative to windows as a gaming os

>4K 60fps (*with FSR)
Why would they brag about fake frames?

>$399

DAMN!!!! GABEN FINNA BE A TRILLIONAIRE

it's FSR

dead on arrival

>>725660203
>The steam deck has probably sold more units than every chinkheld combined.
Due the Valve droning. Those are one special kind of loyalists. Imagine if someone of worth allies with them; even if redundant as a product they could get somewhere

>>725660664
>60 fps
literally unplayable

>>725660407
their gpu looks like it would cost 150

>>725658569
price predictions?

how much stronger than a steam deck is it?

>>725658434
>unless of course it's UE5 slop
that's like 95% of modern games lmao

>>725658180
It's supposed to be affordable...

>>725660407
they sold sneed deck at a loss for like the first year iirc

>>725660651
games idk, but i like it for doing virtual movie theater. i get irritated by how badly the quest handles positioning if you turn the lights off, so this would be an upgrade for that at least

>>725660570
>whoever said that was a retard or just well poisoning
It's been years of that anon. It's no isolated case nor a tinfoil conspiracy

>>725660594
>release the SteamOS Gabe
Didn't that happen already?

>>725660713
whatever consolecuck cage you're flinging shit from you don't get to call anyone a loyalist

>>725660790
a little

>>725659892
You could unironically take a bunch of games, check statistics for most ised instruction sets and strip it down to that. Most of the instructional are never used in gaming.

>lootbox and AAA tard money financing cheap hardware for me to play indie games on again
Thank you Volvo

>>725660664
>FSR 3.1
LMAO

>>725660790
six times

>>725660790
x6 according to their own video

>>725656730 (OP)
>Steam Frame can run everything straight from the headset without anything else
This is it, VR will finally become mainstream.

>>725658712
gyro usually, only a couple controllers have it working with steam but it is rare

>>725660738
>levels of faggotry are so high now that 60fps somehow aren't good

>>725656730 (OP)
Will it run GTA VI?

>>725658039
That's fair, but still a new PC should either cost $40 000 USD and play state of the art shit or it shouldn't exist. That's the only appeal of the PC, it's more expensive, sure, but it's a billion times better. What is the appeal of a capsulated shitbox that may or may not cost less just because it has a Steam sticker on it? It's quintessentially a worse PC, it has nothing going for it and it's a useless product in today's time. If this was done by anyone other than Steam nobody would even give it the time of day. PCs should not compete with consoles in that regard. Everyone loves to bitch and moan at consolefags when they do this cult shit but I've come to find out Steamies are literally exactly the same, they just didn't have the avenue to reveal their true colors until today. It's an indefensible bad product.

>>725660790
steam deck has a pr of around two plates squat for pb, steambox did five plates last week, ass to grass

>>725660848
>n-no u
Excellent argument, anon

>>725658180
a bit concerning

>>725660485
You mean the company that just released a PS5 version for 350 dollars..?

https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-announces-cheaper-japanese-language-only-ps5-just-for-japan

Cool, I was gonna make a mini itx build for my TV but I guess I can get this instead

the gabecube will be 299$, and if you want a source then just ask me about it

>>725660329
The fucker already weighs half a kilo, you stick more batt and more cooling into it and you might as well attach a keyboard and turn it into a gayming laptop.

>>725661019
that's impossible

How concerning is 8GB of VRAM for someone who doesn't play that much western AAA slop?

>>725656730 (OP)
Can anyone explain to me how this is different from using your own PC and plugging it to your TV with a HDMI cable?

>ARM CPU
So you can't install Windows on it, lame.

>>725660989
will rockstar be jews to make as much money as possible by making a shittier version that can run on steam box and steam deck 6 months after console releases?

yes. yes they will

>>725660713
Seething brownoid. You couldn't afford a deck even if it was available in your turd world country

IS SHIT

>>725660994
The problem with consoles has always been that they're locked down, not that they're weak. Budget PCs are nothing new.

>>725660989
Since there is no pc release date, no. but maybe in the future

>>725661129
It's only concerning for that AAA slop, it's more than enough for everything else

I already have a PC but I am going to be buying boughting one for my girlfriend, who's always gamed on shitty laptops her whole life and I want to get her something better, but she doesn't play AAA UE5 RTX slop to justify the inflated cost of modern PCs, and I don't feel like upgrading yet in this shitty GPU gen to give her my own.

predict the price

>>725661131
it's not, it's a prebuilt PC for extra retarded

>>725658180
AIniggers bought up all the RAM chips in the world, consumer electronics get scraps.

>>725661078
How is it going to be cheaper than the cheapest steam deck (399$)

Didn't Xbox announce that their new console is going to be exactly this but more powerful? Why would anyone buy this?

>>725661129
You can kiss modded skyrim goodbye. You need 40 - 60gb of vram. But maybe don't buy from a company who has a war against Lewd

>>725659892
>for the steam frame
qualcomm loves arm. boomers, zoomers, and techlets alike are obsessed with arm because le emerging tech and le shared resources and le x86 drama and muh apple toddler supremecy. seems to actually make sense for a vr headset though.
>>725660687
using any fsr, dlss, xess, or lossless scaling tech and its derivative features are memes to begin with. if you turn them on, you've already lost.
>>725661161
why would you even want to deal with jeetos anymore

>>725661105
nothing is impossible if you believe and have the right pre-workout energy drink

>>725660994
>It's an indefensible bad product.
it's a product for casuals to get them to swap to pc gaming. then they can upgrade to a big boy pc later on if they like it. pc owners aren't the target market, it's designed to get people to become pc owners by offering a cheap alternative that developers will most likely optimize games for(like how sony made sure all their games ran on the deck)

>>725658169
6x more powerful than steam deck. Probably like series s level or maybe a little better since it's newer architecture

>>725660886
>>725660878
?!?!?!

That's a fucking lie.

>>725661019
Yeah but was the steam deck using straps.

>>725660837
>at a loss for like the first year iirc
probably still are considering they lowered the price

>>725660840
I can see that, I just find the whole thing too niche for normal games.

>>725661229
Believe in Gaben

>>725657713
PC for 3rd worlders.

>>725656730 (OP)
The Gabencube

>>725661245
>why would you even want to deal with jeetos anymore
Because I want to play video games?

>>725661221
$1000

>>725661202
a steam gaming console that cant play AAA games is concerning

I need to upgrade my PC and that shit is probably going to cost the same as 32GB of DDR5 by next year. I'm getting this, fuck it

>>725661042
>no u
so you admit you're a consolecuck?
my man, the entire premise of you playing games is founded on sucking off one corporation and being a complete slave that doesn't get to choose anything

>>725658824
what machine plays PS5 and XBOX games lmao

>>725661229
No screen or battery and full sized PC parts drives down the cost.

>>725660651
I hate using the Switch in handheld mode, and I can't imagine the Deck would be much better. I know it's the entire gimmick but I just don't like sitting down or lying down and staring at a tablet
Headset you just slip on, might be more comfortable for someone like me. That said it's just a niche bonus, real selling point is running PCVR off the headset directly

>>725660994
>That's the only appeal of the PC
That's not true, the appeal of PC is the ability to install every piece of software ever made.
>If this was done by anyone other than Steam nobody would even give it the time of day.
It's just a prebuilt PC. Plenty of people have bought that from Dell, Razer or whatever. It's nothing groundbreaking and Valve doesn't claim that either.
>It's an indefensible bad product.
It's just a prebuilt PC. You have some flavor of mental illness.

>>725661338
99.9% of steam game are not AAA games from the last 5 years.

>>725661339
Me too! We held out bros, fuck the GPUws.

>>725661179
>coping this hard

>>725661161
But that's a great hook for it.

>>725660994
>What is the appeal of a capsulated shitbox that may or may not cost less just because it has a Steam sticker on it?
Plug and play for normies to dip their toes in PC gaming anon, get that brain working.
>>725661339
All RAM production for the next 2 years has been pre-ordered by AI demon companies. 32GB of DDR5 RAM is 300 euros now, it's madness.

I'm just going to watch porn with it. Brianna Beach specifically

If it's cheap enough it might be worth it to replace aging home entertainment box, its powerful enough to decode 4k/surround sound HDR video from any internet source or NAS server, it would be great to stream games from a proper gaming pc (but way overkill if that's all you do with it), and it should be perfect for emulating retro games + play indie games.

Honestly it seems like a great little machine but it all depends on the price point, if they pull a steam deck and price it super competitively its a strong move from valve

Just buy a mac mini

>>725661318
We have mid range PCs already for that.

>>725661379
I mean, my old Windows XP can run basically every program just fine. The only reason to ever upgrade your PC is to play newer games.

The real question is; will piracy be possible? If so I'm sold, especially with Win 11 fagging it up.

>>725656730 (OP)
didnt they already do this with alienware a long time ago?

>>725661129
vram is less of a issue on linux. windows is a resource hog.

>>725657713
it's a PC for people who have sex

>>725656730 (OP)
Very interested in the gabecube if it's reasonably priced

>>725656730 (OP)
If valve can implement proper hdr on linux, I'm getting one.

>>725660994
desu I have a good PC and often end up playing
>emulated SNES/N64/PS games or source ports
>doom wads
>VNs
>fan missions for Thief
>old(er) games or mods for them, like MCC, HL/HL2 mods, Skyrim, XCOM 2, etc.

You can play a fuckton of great games on hardware like this. In theory the PS5 could too, but it's too locked down to play anything like that.

>>725661359
>now xhe's clinging to strawman

>>725657713
It won't overheat at EVO Japan

Steam fandom will love it and talk it up endlessly but will anyone actually buy it?

>>725661513
it's just running linux, yeah piracy is possible

>>725661236
why would anybody buy an xbox in 2025? lol

>>725661513
>The real question is; will piracy be possible?
It's a PC. You can install whatever you want on it. I don't understand how /v/ is so technologically inept.

>>725661240
Lol even the most bloated 4kmaxxing modlist only takes up 16gb vram of my 24gb gpu

This puts Sony in an awkward position, not only does Valve get Sony games on Steam and their own hardware, while Valve port nothing of their own games to PS, and now they are moving against Sony on the hardware front as well. Sony needs to wisen up and leave PC ports, or lock everything of it down to only buying from a PS storefront on PC. It makes no sense to have business dealings with a clear rival, which Valve is to them, just like Nintendo understands, Valve is no lesser rival to Nintendo and Sony than they are against each other. So Sony releasing games on Steam makes about as much sense as releasing their games on the Nintendo eshop. Not only is Nintendo taking over the console industry and NS2 has the rocket start but Steam could possibly start eating up PS sales as well, even though I think this looks like a shit buy just like steam deck was/is. I could easily see casuals buying it because they don't know any better

>>725658039
>well yes but it's probably $400 for the 512gb model
You are legit nuts

>>725661525
they didnt use custom hardware or custom software. it was just dell pc with ubuntu.

>"buy our new console you can play games on it"
>may I see one of those games?
>"...no"

>>725661594
>Steam fandom
Who?
People that already have a PC and don't need this?

The Black Box?

>>725658180
>retarded cat poster can't read
Typical.

>>725658039
they said its more expensive than a console expect it to be 800$

>>725661525
difference is it wasnt valve manufactured, it was licensed garbage

>>725661339
honestly speaking, if steam cubes actually were popular (they won't be), it would be pretty good for game development in general, because game devs would actually feel restricted by some specific tangible pc hardware specs instead of going full randy and being like "this game is optimized adequately because there exists a super computer cluster in the university of houston that can run this at 40 frames per second"

>>725661708
it DOA then if thats the case

>>725659143
it's a small cute machine that you can put in your living room instead of a giant autism box

>>725661670
>may I see one of those games?
Not just one buddy
https://steamdb.info/

>>725661708
>they said its more expensive than a console
source: my ass

black cubes are islamic, jewish, satanic, and saturn symbols. PC gaming is about autonomy because you have so much customization and options. A black cube was chosen as the shape of the box that 'simplifies' the PC gaming experience.

>>725661619
I might get the frame if price is decent because it would be first standalone headset that supports linux, which is the reason I never got quest despite wanting to play alyx.

>>725661701
Black Box Console

>>725661594
Me
I don't have a gaming PC and I want something small and cheap

>>725661601
Oh god. Not Linux. Anything but Linux.

>>725657842
>most likely a lot cheaper

No lol

>>725661708
you're legitimately retarded
$800 is how much it'd cost to build a pc that's way stronger than it

>>725656730 (OP)
>Recently bought my brothers 2k PC off him for 1k
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>Steam frame
>Hold off on that an hero

>>725660835
If it is more than $399 it's a giant scam.

>8gb gram
Oh no no no no lmao

>>725656730 (OP)
>Steam console
Wouldn't that just be a PC

>>725661752
>t would be pretty good for game development in general, because game devs would actually feel restricted by some specific tangible pc hardware specs
you just described gaming consoles in general and it will have the same faults of a gaming console. You cant upgrade shit

>>725661835
ok Satya

>>725661797
Yeah, I'm gonna get the frame for sure. Maybe the gabecube for my TV when my itx build shits itself

>>725661670
What even is the modern Pcbro? They don't exactly make much vidya these days.

>>725661895
yes, it is just a pc

>>725661379
>That's not true, the appeal of PC is the ability to install every piece of software ever made.
ok fair
>It's just a prebuilt PC. Plenty of people have bought that from Dell, Razer or whatever. It's nothing groundbreaking and Valve doesn't claim that either.
Never said Valve claims this - /v/ does. It's important enough for /v/ to have like 8 threads in the catalog with 200+ replies.
>It's just a prebuilt PC. You have some flavor of mental illness.
Prebuilts suck and Valve shouldn't be doing them. My mental state is irrelevant to the discussion, and generally insulting people weakens your argument.

>>725661784
>>725661773
pretty sure he means steam os compatible games, which even the ones that are compatible sometimes run like dog shit

>>725660779
$799.99 + tip

Why would you buy a PS5 at this point? Steam machine is stronger and smaller.

>>725658214
>Specs?
The specs

>>725660932
You look like a fucking retard using that shit and it looses it's novelty after a while.

>>725661931
With Proton that's still almost all of them.

>>725659840
8gb of ram not bogged down by windows bullshit is ok

>>725661701
FINALLY after all these years its real. it even has radeon gpu like half life advertised.

>>725661898
gaming consoles did work to limit out of control specs for a long time, the problem is basically past the ps4 era consoles all started to suck massive dogshit, and game devs started seeing way more money in pc.

these days people don't develop for ps or xbox anymore. they develop for pc, and the ridiculous spike in requirements for even bland games like borderlands is a reflection, i think of that.

>>725661940
Not to mention the overall cheaper games and you're not charged to play online

>>725661940
ps5 exclusives

>>725661594
Not really. Just the deck owners buying more from Valve with little to none increase is the most likely scenario. Unless its hook is the price but then again

>>725661812
>he thinks it will be cheap
Expect $600 at minimum.

>>725656730 (OP)
>HDMI 2.0
>No FS4 4 support
I get this is supposed to be cheap but what idiotic choices, in 2020 this would have been an odd decision

>>725661752
You're describing the thought process behind the previous failed Steam Machines. Devs aren't going to build around these things.

this sounds like the Ouya all over again

>>725661923
EU5 just released bwo

>>725661174
Anon, it has to run on a Series S. Series S is weaker than this.

>>725661263
not a single casual on this planet will drop their PS5 for this

>>725660779
50-80 is my guess

>>725662113
Linux has had FSR4 support for RDNA3 for a long ass time now. You Windows fags are cucked not only on features but also 40% less performance than using RADV.

>>725662035
8gb VRAM, dumbass.

Will steam OS be available separately? With microsoft becoming jewish retards I'd love to jump ship to a gaming oriented OS.

So if I just buy the controller I can play steam vidya on my TV?

>>725662087
>ps5 exclusives
No such thing

>>725661997
>Arch-based
>KDE Plasma
ya love to see it

>>725661940
I wouldn't buy any of those.

>>725661997
>2kg
That's too much

>>725662120
they don't really need to this time, that's why valve put so much money into proton

>>725661180
That's expected. Even proper custom-built PCs with high-end GPUs can barely handle 4K 60fps native unless it's potato graphics. I would not expect a little mini PC to do it.

Meanwhile PC prebuilts has physical, real graphic cards, no APUs. Steam Machine is just a laptop

>>725657976
I can play pretty much any game released on pc and most console games via emulation on a PC, regardless of form factor. That's why PC is superior to console.

>>725661362
PC?

>>725662120
correct but the valve deck was moderately successful, and is definitely on developer radars.

i agree that its unlikely to happen, im just saying this console doing well would not be bad for games in general, in my opinion.

but i agree most people would rather make their own pc, and have the option do things like install steam os on it (if steam os worked).

>>725662236
yes, with your regular pc

>>725662170
you might be the most retarded idiot ever
the ouya only played 2013 mobile games...

>wishlist the gabecube
>check wishlist
>ricochet
>"what?"
>"wait..."
I'M NOTICING

>>725662226
Just install arch and then whatever bloatware Steam ships with it manually

what the FUCK is that

>>725662310
kino, will pre-order

>>725662267
it's not an apu

kek

>>725662236
you still need a PC but yeah

>>725662241
>That's too much
do you think you'll be holding it retard?
there's nothing wrong with big heatsinks, in fact it's desirable

>>725661791
>islamic
and you would be correct

>>725662372
Linux users lmfao

>>725661898
it's literally why consoles exist - one person wants to splurge on an expensive machine that does everything, the other wants the console so they know that in 5 years a PS5 game will just run on their machine

>>725662120
Previous Steam Machine required devs to port their games to Linux, they don't need to this time.

>>725659283
>prebuilds are a minefield


Their better and cheaper then assembling your own in the current year.

Valve could butt fuck every competitor if it sell this for cheap at a loss for them but that's asking for too much.

>>725662104
>Expect $600 at minimum
It will not be that price but that's still cheap enough for something that isn't a giant ugly thing like the average gaming pc and ready to go

>>725656730 (OP)
SD cards for expanded storage is an awful idea.
My 1st gen Steam Deck has fried two cards already.

>anti steam shills seething
Feels good

The last Steam machines failed so why won't this one?

>>725662087
You mean delayed PC games?

>>725656730 (OP)
Why does it look like cube of satan/saturn?

>>725661997
>zen 4
>RDNA3
ohnononononono

>>725662498
wtf how

>>725662251
because windows is dogshit and nvidias driver suck on linux. its a different game once u use amd+linux. even xbox amd handheld is half as slow using windows than linux

>>725662348
just announce it already you fat faggot

>>725662372
Why can't Americans hire pretty people for their ads?

>>725662237
Astrobot, it won GOTY

>>725658816
this is obviously supposed to compete with the console market retard

>>725662525
proton

>>725662525
you guys are massive retards

>>725656730 (OP)
Why not just build a pc

>>725661318
3rd worlders can't even buy Steam hardware, anon. It's not available in the store at all.

>>725662525
I hope valve has some metrics for this shit or they're just burning money trying to convert normalfags into pc gamers

>>725661939
i dont tip

>>725657306
>>725660585
HL33 confirmed!!!

>>725658164
Current console competition uses AMD RDNA2 SoCs.
The PS5 Pro one has some RDNA3 features and RDNA4 raytracing cores awkwardly and inefficiently stapled onto the side of what is essentially still RDNA2.

Steam's new little box (Oh god; I'm going to have to start calling this the "Gabecube" aren't I?) is literally the most graphically advanced living room console entering the market now. They only shat the bed on the actual horse power backing the architecture. Even the base PS5 has 36 CUs - the Pro has 60. Steam's stepping forward with a not-very-competitive 28 CUs in their machine. The RDNA3 architecture vs the RDNA2 one is not going to close that gap.

>>725662492
Nah man the fucking of the butts will commence as planned. This will be cheaper than a Switch 2 and Nintendo can finally FINALLY go fuck themselves, the greedy pricks.

>>725656730 (OP)
FINALLY i can pc game on the BIG SCREEN wowee thank you valve this has never before been possible!!!

>>725656730 (OP)
Could be pretty based if done correctly. I doubt there's as much demand for this as there is for something like the Deck (kind of rough), BUT a simple, dedicated gaming PC with Steam's user base and a reasonable price point could be great.

>>725658436
>doesn't want better hardware
You can stick to PS5 or Switch 2

>>725656730 (OP)
I need one tbqh

>>725661997
>28CU @ 2.45GHz
It’s basically a RX 7600
Even my old PC was faster than this. And that wasn’t really fast enough for WQHD or 4k
>16GB
Obsolete when new

>>725662498
You can expand with a SSD, it can be opened at the side.
There's more info in this video
https://youtu.be/bWUxObt1efQ

>>725656730 (OP)
Can I play Fortnite on it? How much will it cost?

>>725662372
steamxisters..... not like this!

>everyone laughing at 8GB VRAM
>meanwhile I play the best ludos with 6GB
this board is filled with UE5 pajeet shills, right?

I wonder if itll be easy to pirate games? I dont know if torrent files would mainly just be for windows

>>725657813
>DisplayPort 1.4
Enough for any monitor currently available.
>HDMI 2.0
Now this is bullshit. They advertise this thing to be used with TVs and it can't even output 4k 120fps, or do VRR?

>>725662775
got a non-tranny video?

>>725662687
>>725662754
freebsd and windows is much slower than radv driver on linux

>>725662668
>or they're just burning money trying to convert normalfags into pc gamers
Not that I mind. If they're gonna milk retards with lootboxes might as well burn that money on some philantropy.

>>725661318
>3rd worlders.

Nigga, valve don't sell that in most countries.

>>725658517
What? It deneds how much you wanna spend on them. If you drop more than 1k it should work fine

>>725658824
They're not underpowered if you have the wallet to drop more than 400 bucks for the mini pc

>>725662626
believe it or not, casual gaymers who can't and won't build a pc are a way bigger market than those who do

>>725662267
my laptop has dedicated gpu :)

>>725657713
Honestly I've been tempted to build the smallest form factor pc I can to build into something powerful since this is my PC case, this might scratch that itch instead

I dont take my deck out of the dock so i'm definitely getting one of these and maybe even getting rid of my ps5 and switch when the time comes

>nasty-ass tranny gif on repeat on the store page basically the first thing you see
KEK what the actual fuck were they thinking
big time ick t b h

>>725658268
They are designed for record video of security cameras

>>725661129
My Main Desktop has 256gb of RAM.

Is the Deck's dpad any good?

Is the index still better?

>>725662779
No, you can't play Fortnite on Linux, you dummy

>no headphone jack
come on man

>>725662525
Proton, actually functional OS, and they're building hardware in-house instead of outsourcing it to vendors

>>725662687
GayBenCube

>>725662372
>the transbian meme was real

>>725658816
He does. That's why he's coming for the console monopoly now.
XBox is already dead in the gutter and has pretty much admitted defeat.
Sony is in a slow simmering deathspiral decline.

You're right. There is no war.
Gabe has already won by definition.

He literally has to just sit back and watch this thing launch succesfully.
Do nothing, and win.

>>725662547
qrd , why's that not good

>>725662754
16 + the vram is legit still fine for games. you're not gonna hit 4k, but everything will run

>>725662423
At least its a Syrian name

>>725658712
>do you not find in other controllers
The battery life. 35 hours is fucking insane for a controller with this much shit going on. The only other one I can even think of is the Switch pro controller which has similar tech and a 40 hour battery life. Meanwhile you have Xbox controllers with okay battery life and then fucking PS5 controllers with like 8 hours tops lol and lmao even.

A reminder that native Windows gaming is slower than Steam Machine using emulation layer

>>725662917
it's fine, not great, not terrible, just fine.

>>725662893
Obsessed

>>725662815
You can run most windows software with proton and probably fex now too

>>725662626
Building PCs is not for normies

This is so fucking dumb. I say this as someone who loves my Deck.

It's obviously designed to target console players, and not PC enthusiasts, because PC enthusiasts can build something better for cheaper.

I doubt console players will embrace this as they love competitive multiplayer games, and due to this running Steam OS, those are not going to be available.

Console players also don't like to tinker, so i doubt they will want to bother dual booting windows. Also, many of them fucking hate windows, and for good reason.

Good news is, we may be able to get these used for dirt cheap in a couple years.

Unless Steam is about to drop Half Life 3 and Portal 3 as Steam exclusives, these really have no appeal to a normie. Also, most gamers these days havent even played Half Life or Portal so even if they did, it might not move the needle

>>725662917
I never liked the face buttons or the dpad
too much travel and a weird press, d pad is very stiff too

>>725661053
That's plenty for current games. This isn't 2008 anymore where you needed higher specs for alot of games.

>>725662893
Trust the plan, aryans are in charge! Also be prepared for a 50 years mortgage to buy a Steam game.

>>725663024
Doesn't matter, Switch 2 is best way to game. That's what real portable library/machine looks like.

>>725662810
yeah, upgrading ram was so cheap for so long i think people just got memed into thinking they needed more than you really do. i don't think there is a single piece of consumer grade software that actually needs 64gb

>>725662893
It's avif tho

Why would I buy this gimmick instead of... a PC? This is some alienware shit

>>725662626
they want the drooling retard market (console gamers)

>>725663024
This is why Steam won btw.

>>725663007
Not the latest, so it doesn't get FSR4 for looks and function, and Zen 5 is way more efficient on the power draw. Let it be said that any FSR before 4 is still dogshit compared to the competition.

>>725658342
so, what's even the point now of the new Xbox since this was basically the strat that the MS team was pursuing. The major difference is that it doesn't run bloated Windows, but rather Proton - which Valve has been optimizing over the last few years via the Steam Deck. Did Valve just become a better hardware and software gaming company than MS? MS is getting their lunch eaten.

>>725662810
it's like when anons pretend 8 inches of dick is small
retarded shitposting
8GB VRAM is more than enough for any game right now

>>725663123
lol
lmao

>>725662829
single digit % more fps is not going to fix it

>>725662973
on the pc designed to be hooked up to your living room tv? why?

>>725662560
I used a 1TB both times, had them near full, but after reboots they both just stopped working entirely regardless of what system I plugged them into. Each probably lasted a year or two. I'm not sure of a technical term, but they just became useless chips. I thought the first died because I had game recording set on it but I had that disabled when the second died after a random update.

>>725663123
>UHUUHUHHUHUHUH IT DOESNT MATTER
jit

>>725663110
Valve is mostly indian now is it not

>>725662392
It's pretty relevant. If it was $2,500 it's a rip off. It was $250 it would be an absurd steal and everyone will buy one.

>>725662973
Basically every TV and monitor have one nowadays

>>725663194
>8GB VRAM is more than enough for any game right now
Even if you're poor, why lie?

Prebuilders jumping off a cliff rn

>>725663206
xbox handheld is half as slow running windows than steamos

so will this be available everywhere or will I have to order it through france or some other third world country like for the steam deck

>>725663087
People buy iphones for the brand alone.
If people think this is a console and is worth to buy it, they will buy it even if it just a prebuilt PC.
yes, people are that dumb.
It will all depend on the price, if valve doesnt want risks, it will be expensive, if they sell it at the same price as consoles it will be over for them

>>725656730 (OP)
Looks like half of Xbox Series X

So is /v/ gonna pretend all of a sudden that 8gb RAM is enough now? That was barely enough over 10 years ago.

>>725656730 (OP)
The 'eck only worked because it had a gimmick and the usecase of being portable. This thing is just a shitty prebuilt linux PC that you can't upgrade.

The Frame however might be decent assuming it's affordable, otherwise it can't compete with the Quest.>>725656730 (OP)

>>725663194
>8GB VRAM
No. Maybe at 1080p at medium settings. But if you're at 1440p or 4K at high settings absolutely not.

>>725663024
and it's only going to get better now that the development focus has shifted to a desktop level of performance with the steam machine
windows will be fucking brutally murdered

>>725659345
it looks portable enough for me honestly, more than a series s

>>725656730 (OP)
How strong is it compared to the PS5 and Series X?

>>725662867
I did a small but powerful PC in the past, it was a fucking nightmare to open and do anything inside of, I'd honestly recommend against it unless you're okay with just bricking the thing when you finally run into a big hardware issue
the steam machine is probably fine though

>>725663359
its 16gb of ram + 8gb of vram.
not a problem on linux.
you use windows bloatware thats 50% slower than radv linux

Meh, I am excited for the controller tho

>>725663227
trust the plan Q made a tweet on how Good and Big things are going to get. Valve is going to bring huge games and consoles. and Half Life 33 is going to be a blast!

>>725663024
NT isn't Windows in the minds of anyone other than Microsoft's marketing department. It has to use a compatibility layer just like Proton. Only without the focus on gaming, and on a much slower base.

>>725658171
>Saturn cube
>Trannies in promo
What did Gabe mean by this?

>>725663087
>because PC enthusiasts can build something better for cheaper
>didn't announce prices
what did he mean by this?

>>725663213
i do treat the steamOS updates with a fair amount of suspicion at this point, i have multiple cases where the deck just wouldn't turn on after an update, or charging was completely and mysteriously disabled

>>725663170
I agree. However I'd take it one step further, and say DLSS / nvidia is just overall better, and all of these consoles should use nvidia apu/gpu and tech

Obviously my switch 2 is nvidia based

>>725657713
It is just owning a PC. The difference is the frontend. It'll boot straight into a controller GUI for Steam. The desktop is hidden behind the power button in the menu.

>>725663421
>not a problem on linux.
I really hope you believe this nonsense because nobody else does

>>725657982
アニサイト

>>725663087
Honestly, these products will only sell based on how sleek and stylish they look. If it's something you can have in your living room next to your TV without looking like a manchild then it might have a chance

>>725663313
Maybe. I just dont see it. Wish they at least opted for 32gb ram

>>725659740
at least it's not a LEAD strip!

>>725663359
My graphics cards has 8gb and that still works fine.

>>725662810
my 6gb 2060 lasted me a very long time and only struggled with very recent UE5 shit like the oblivion remake at 1440p

>>725658763
it runs SteamOS and SteamOS is GNU/Linux

>>725663009
16GB is already not enough for some games.
It’s the hardware of a 5 year old midrange gaming laptop

>>725663442
show me nt without windows

>>725662893
I love that you retards constantly gatekeep yourself from good things, I hope you never get to enjoy anything again because you're too busy combing advertising and trailers for undesirables

This entire thing feels like its marketed to Indians
>cheap because they are poor
>tiny because they don¨'t have room for anything
There¨'s not a single reason why anyone else would buy this

gabe isnt goign to annouce hl3 hes just going to preload it on all steam boxes and say its released when someone turns it on for the first time

This thing is actually more powerful than my current gaming laptop. If the price isn't bad and it can run Armored Core VI properly I might go for it.

>>725657713
it's pretty small, that's cool

>/v/ before steam frame
>prebuilts BAD
>/v/ after steamframe
>prebuilts actually okay

>>725662403
>there's nothing wrong with big heatsinks
For some reason I think you were mocking the PS5's fuckhuge size.

>>725656730 (OP)
I won't pay no more than $600.

>>725663471
> desktop is hidden behind the power button in the menu
this is how every console should be

>>725660560
>Is the old man dead? What happened? He would never
doesn't he personally donate to the democratic party?

>>725663223
Having a blast playing on switch, it meets my expectations. Meanwhile 7900xtx on PC struggling with xcom 1 cutscenes, when pc cost 4k? And upgrading to new mobo+cpu would cost almost 3k? Yeah I'm gonna stick to hardware that works, having amd cpu+gpu has taught me that I was happier when I gamed intel+nvidia

>>725663024
It's not an emulation layer it's a translation layer.

>>725663563
Have you tried not being obsessed with Indians for a sec, burgeranon?

>>725663579
Why not just buy a regular pc or a new laptop?

>>725663563
Not every poor person is a jeet, anon

>>725663242
>>725662392
this is the only shit about this shitty console that matters.

>>725658363
Because they might want to play games?

>>725661856
Mini PCs go for a $1k at high specs so I expect it to be expensive. No one is making products for the average person anymore.

>>725663647
based blast haver

I only have a deck and have been using it as my desktop PC with the dock for years
should I get this?

>>725663538
which games? i keep intending to upgrade my pc from 16gb, and literally have 64gb sitting in an unopened package on my desk, but just never really get around to it since i haven't yet encountered something that i can't play

>>725663612
because its now a standard prebuilt. any game will make a steambox setting that runs perfect on the steambox instead of trying to cater to 1000000 different configs of chink boxes

>>725657813
>>725662825
AMD can't do HDMI 2.1 on Linux. The HDMI Forum doesn't allow HDMI 2.1 implementations to be open source.

>>725662493
I was being nice. I'm sure it will be $899 or so

>>725663449
They definitely need to iron out something with the steam updates. I've used my Deck as a daily driver, I'd leave it plugged into a dock and play at my desk when I'd be home, and I noticed if I apply updates while it's on a dock and the screen is turned off then when I use it as a handheld again the touchscreen occasionally stops working until the next update.

>>725663481
It's true tho

>>725663717
how long did that last on the steam deck

>>725659892
For the Steam Frame.

The Steam Machine runs on a custom AMD Zen4 CPU.
It's basically a Ryzen 7000 series CPU made suitable for a SoC.

Quite possibly, because it's designed as a SoC together with its GPU counterpart, it may be able to pull off the same unified memory trick Sony used in the PlayStation architecture. Which means you get basically non-existent bus-transfer from main RAM to GPU for uploading meshes, textures, etc.

Basically, this might actually fix the one thing that gimps most naive PS5->PC ports and was one of the reasons MS came up with DirectStorage as a sort of slapdash fix: the data-transfer rate over PCIE to/from the GPU.

>>725661997
my 5600X will gladly pull 80W if I let it to boost all threads to 4.6GHz. how are they going to feed theirs with 30?

>>725662493
Thats literally a consoles price how would it not be cheap

>>725663538
You have to also look at the RAM in a different way than normal, however; Windows will just eat the fuck up out of your RAM like a hog to run telemetry and extra processes most users will likely never even know exist, while Linux and the SteamOS setup inherently has more advantages and overall performance on many games by default because it gets to draw from its components with a lot less overhang. There's a reason why something like Bazzite is pretty much still dominating the PC handheld space and routinely used as a point of comparison against Windows 11 machines, even swapped onto them for extra demonstration.

16GB of RAM is basically fine by most metrics since it doesn't NEED the excess.

>>725663563
you really need to take a step back and reconsider where you are in life anon
this is the most irrelevant thing in the world to still be thinking about Indians with
you might have an unhealthy fixation

>trannytrend shit
>yall
>no hdmi 2.1 in a 2026 hardware release lmao
>16gb ram
>8gb vram
>amd gpu
>a single usb-c port
>linux
ayyyyyyyy what kind of brownoid and/or LGBT people are they even going after with this?

>>725663723
the workaround is use a displayport to hdmi adapter. you can also do virtual display wrapping. it doesn't care for any standards, the only limit is your gpus controller.

>>725663723
Just don't use proprietary shitware. If you want to use the proprietary shitware connector you might as well stick with the proprietary shitware OS.

>>725662607
>another complete failure compared to the leading console
ok, i guess

>>725663816
corporate shill espionage post

>>725663816
sar please understand, Valve is based and redpilled white people. We do not need toilets as we are white and Brahmin.

>>725662943
Can I dual boot winblows?

>>725663781
Satisfactory just yesterday got a patch with Steam Deck specific improvements.

>>725663837
tvs dont ship with dp, they only come with hdmi.

>>725663806
>>725663652
>>725663673
hmmm such natural and organic posts

>>725656730 (OP)
Where's the handle and purple color?

>>725663563
Replace indian with consolefag, japanese or chinese and it still works.

>>725663087
You see why Steam never spend ANY marketing in devices.
No giant ads in New York. No a "Year of Steam/Team Fortress/Half-life/Counter Striker".
They know PC people spend money in Nvidia cards and high-end PC parts, no laptops with AMD graphics

>>725663939
yes but its not a good idea. same reason as installing windows on deck.

>>725663123
stfu neckbeard manchild, REAL men are talking here.
Go back to your bingbing machine and leave /v

>>725663957
Use a monitor then.

>>725663837
Not possible for TVs. The HDMI Forum members are all TV manufacturers and make a lot of money from pushing HDMI. Good luck finding a TV with DisplayPort.

>>725662997
>He does. That's why he's coming for the console monopoly now.
He's acting like Xbox then, that's a lost fight. Specially without games.

>>725663201
>ynr all the people seething at S2's price and Nintendo saying they were the cheapest product
>Nobody wanted to believe it but in less than 2 weeks Nintendo was proven right
It was a funny btfo to see unfold ngl

>>725662580
Not even pretty, just NORMAL people for god's sake

>>725664041
Installing Windows on Deck is a bad idea because it doesn't do power management properly, not a problem on this.

>>725664018
Valve:
>Black Cube
Nintendo:
>33rd street
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...........

>>725657713
It's going to be a LAN fragbox for me. I can just take that, a monitor, and a duffel bag with my peripherals and be able to play all my current gen games with my friends without any problems and not have to take my big-ass desktop with me everywhere. I have a full size case and it's a bitch to carry around if I wanna play vidya with my bros when I drive over there.

>>725663612
But these ones are personally put together by Gaben and he's the god of PC

>>725659143
Haven't you seen how expensive it is to build a mini-ATX without giving up on the idea altogether? Valve has practically a stripped-down GPU in that Steam Machine. A normal GPU can't achieve that with a PC that small, unless it's a Mac or mini PC

>>725662810
Retards dont know that this is meant to be a normalfag device and this shit is just targeting the average steam users set up kek

>>725662672
What if they really put up the effort?

>>725664130
theres virtually no driver support on windows for this thing or deck.

its using custom zen and custom rdna. you cant just slap on whql generic chipset driver and adrenaline software. you need oem drivers for that like asus rog.

>>725663665
>regular pc
I'm retarded and don't know how to build a PC or even find the best parts for my price range
>new laptop
I just don't want to get another laptop, I never use mine as an actual laptop and at that point I should just get a desktop or something close to it

>>725656730 (OP)
Can it actually play windows games or is it another linux thing?

I mean if I ever set up a second desk I wouldn't mind one specifically for running CivIV or something that doesn't want to blow my ass out with graphics or processing toys

>>725664180
unc forgot its not 2003 anymore lmaoooo

>>725662917
It gets the job done. A little mushy. I prefer the dual sense's

>>725663957
Use a HDMI to DP adapter, problem solved.

>>725664129
The faggot behind Benetton ads caused huge damage

Yeah it's just going to be the DotA 2 CSGO box

>>725663579
Idesigned for play pornographic games of PC-98, PC-FX and PC-Engine in a massive 80' screen with OLED technology

>>725664275
linux things can play windows games now

>>725664225
Or maybe a normal pc just does not need to be this small.

>>725662837
valve has infinite money though

>>725663612
the shill money check cs2 case came in and now I am legally obliged to tell you how good prebuilds are.

>>725663975
>No death threats
>No random mentions of onlyfans
>No broken English
That's not how jeets react to insults

>>725664275
ProtonOS can run 90% of windblows games

>the Frame is LCD
can't win em all

>>725664393
No, that's microsoft. Valve has bank.

>>725661053
You're forgetting that this is a SoC housing both CPU and GPU.
AMD has experience designing those with unified memory architecture.

Basically, the fact that it only has 8 GB dedicated VRAM is of no concern when transfer times from main RAM to VRAM are basically non-existent because you can temporarily page part of the VRAM as main RAM for direct zero-latency read/write access.

The PS3 through PS5 architectures do the same thing.
And it's the lack of this tech in general desktop PCs (and the patchy DirectStorage bandaid not cutting it) that causes most of the problems with stutter and load times on the PC platform as well as the need for exorbitant amounts of VRAM because EVERYTHING has to be preloaded and crammed in there to avoid loading stutter midway through.

>>725663549
Windows hasn't had a release in 25 years. NT, which the marketing department labels "Windows" even though it has more in common with VMS, has always used a compatibility layer for so-called "legacy" win32 software. None of Microsoft's attempts to have a "modern" replacement of win32 have ever caught on.

NT used to have other compatibility subsystems, but they all died out too. If you're confusing the WM with the OS you at least used to be able to replace the default interface with more minimal UIs like blackbox. I'm not sure that sort of customization of NT is possible anymore without Microsoft's sign off. If it was I'd imagine the handheld NT machines would be trying it.

>>725664275
bro, it's been possible to play almost any windows game on linux with same performance for years now and most exceptions to this are online games with chinese malware kernel anticheats

>>725664274
>I'm retarded and don't know how to build a PC or even find the best parts for my price range
Just get a prebuilt? That's LITERALLY what the steamdeck is.

>>725661628
Steam won. I thought I was going to have to buy more pc shit to upgrade for my additional gaming PC's due to win 10-locaust, but honestly, I think I will buy a few steam boxes for my extra PC's. The headset looks like a possible downgrade to index (controllers 100% are), and I will be buying multiple steam controllers since they are hall effect + (TMR). Blame M$ for their insolence.

And who knows, depending on the headset bundle price point, it might be good for company.

>>725664268
>theres virtually no driver support on windows for this thing or deck.
on release, you mean
it's still a bad idea because windows just sucks
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/6121-ECCD-D643-BAA8

Why is it only 6 cores? Wouldn't it be better if it had 8cores 16threads? Tired of seeing these budget CPUs

>>725660485
You know they are, why do you think they announced that the PS6 will be closer to a PC dropping the full custom console design. Valve just killed the next Xbox before it was even announced. Now Microsoft's Xbox "Squared" will have to content with the new Valve Steam Machine.

>>725661835
You can install another OS on it anyway, it's just a pc.

>>725664532
>We are providing these resources as is and are unfortunately unable to offer 'Windows on Deck' support.

the last time the windows deck drivers were updated was launch years ago.
mesa is updated weekly on linux.

>>725660017
English "grammatical rules" are Americans people angry because the world (Europe,Africa, India, China,Australia) prefer singular THEY and the "D" sound for THE

>>725664456
Pretend I'm a retarded normalfag who exclusively buy things based on hype. If I boughted this thing, would it be able to run the latest COD or whatever normalfags play these days?

>>725664275
The entire reason the Deck even exists is because Valve was developing a way to run Windows games on Linux for a future console. They can now, and this is the result.

>>725661161
The Steam Machine uses AMD's Zen4 architecture.
It's basically a Ryzen 7000 series CPU tuned for use on a SoC with a twinned GPU.

>>725664697
no, CoD anticheat doesn't work on Linux

>>725656730 (OP)
if they make it absurdly affordable like 200 or 250 then the ps5 is going down the gutter. It was never about power and its about time snoys understand.

>>725664647
nope
and of course they aren't offering any support, why would they

>>725664498
Are there any good prebuilts out there whatsoever? I was mainly entertaining the idea of buying the Steam Machine because I liked the Steam Deck, and given that I figured I could trust Valve to put together good hardware, something I can't trust any other company with

>>725660407
Laptop igpu
Low storage
No Express Microsd, only regular microsd
No support for Virtualbox, LM Studio or Midjourney

>>725664770
It's over for valve's console then. Every major gaming company wants kernel or whatever access.

>>725663816
>60hz @4k
...does it at least have display port?

>>725664856
Nearly every single website offers to "build a PC for you" and have different range options. Small PC boxes like the new Valve gimmick has also always been a thing

>>725664903
yes

>>725664819
the wddm driver they use is super outdated. you can confirm in gpu-z. missing a crap ton of vulkan extensions.

>>725664819
Anon...AMDVLK was discontinued by AMD officially. Guess what driver that package uses. It's outdated as shit.

>>725664890
Valve is pretty much Linux's only chance at fixing it. The Linux community isn't interested in kernel level anticheat and claim some server side magic or userspace thing would be the solution. Personally I wonder if games in the future will run in a custom VM that runs a proprietary OS to avoid needing a kernel level anticheat.

>>725663024
This is why Steam Machine makes perfect sense in 2026.

>>725664819
Funny how in a regular PC, you only need replace with graphic card with a newer one

>>725665029
>>725665097
You know that just the official AMD experience on Windows, right? Which is why anyone who understand what's going on has been begging them for porting their Mesa drivers to Windows.

>>725664390
If they want to compete with consoles, it has to be small.
It would be perfect for me to take to friends houses

this will hold back development of PC games like the series S did for xbox

>>725664890
denuvo works fine, there are plenty of studios who don't ask for more than that

>>725665029
>missing a crap ton of vulkan extensions.
amd windows in a nutshell

>>725664776
it would never happen
you clearly do not know how far snoys can go, they're full metal cult
sony could release a console shaped laptop, call it PS6pro and they would defend it, ffs
these people were buying ps3 with no games on the horizon because "anytime now" daddy sony will save gaming
they’re irredeemable

>>725665169
>The Linux community isn't interested in kernel level anticheat
As they should. Game companies have shown time and time again that code quality is the least of their concerns. Giving them full computer access for that reason alone is pure lunacy. That's not even mentioning the whole thing with large corporations having a thing for collecting user data.

>>725664983
>Nearly every single website offers to "build a PC for you" and have different range options.
So what are the best sites? Is Ironside any good?

>>725659892
Have you seen games running on Macbook Airs with M4? That thing is flatter than my phone and barely heats up or uses battery power.
ARM is the future