Thread 725698186

>>725698186 (OP)
At least it does not use carbon shit sticks that die in 5 minutes.

>>725698186 (OP)
Hey they put the sticks in the right place. Are the buttons pressure sensitive too?

i remember seeing the initial render of this thing years ago, feels wild to see it as a finished product.

I hope we get a gamesaar version, the original steam controller quality was ass.

>>725698186 (OP)
Put the left stick up top. Still wouldn't buy it tho.

>>725698186 (OP)
It looks like the face of a fucking spider

>>725698850
Why only the left stick?
Why not the right stick?

>>725698186 (OP)
The original controller was pretty fun, the only thing I don't like about it and the reason I barely use it is because it's regular rechargable AA batteries and I'd rather not use the controller than deal with them

>>725699038
It's not for bing bing wahoos anon, it's for playing PC games that typically play like ass on controller and/or don't have controller support by default. And the original controller was great for that

>>725698997
reasonable, personally i hated that it didn't have rumble

>rear buttons
about damn time

>no share to facebook button
>no flashlight on the back
>no speaker to make sound effects
Dualshock 4 still wins

>>725698186 (OP)
I hope it's mod friendly.

I'll buy it after nobody else does and it goes on sale for 5$

>>725698186 (OP)
>it's going to be $70
it's over

Will the analog sticks use standard potentiometers that last two months?

>>725699573
Advertised as "next-gen magnetic sticks", presumably they're TMR

>>725699382
im betting the sticks are on a separate PCB, valve tends not to make unrepairable hardware. but i fully expect 3d printer autismos to make a good amount of docks/wall mounts and etc for it very quickly for the magnetic charging dongle. and very possible they make non-ass d-pad mods depending on the pcb and membrane design

either way my autistic ass is stoked

could have used onboard 3.5mm though since it has a dongle

>>725698287
>buttons pressure sensitive
Fuck your pressure sensitive buttons. Whatever fucking PlayStation controllers used that retarded fucking "feature" for the gas on driving games were a history lesson of what not to add to a controller.

>>725698186 (OP)
I will buy this for sure, the steamdeck controls are great. don't really care about the other stuff they announced unless the headset is somehow less than 400 bucks

>>725698287
>That one unc that won't shut the fuck up about the Playstation 2

>>725698186 (OP)
Get rid of the worthless triggers and put proper buttons there. Then we'll talk.

click stick buttons are so terrible, that's a waste of two underside buttons to rebind them like every other controller with underside buttons.

>>725699573
>2x full-size magnetic thumbsticks (TMR) with capacitive touch

Happy to see four back buttons on a symmetrical controller with trackpads that will be able to bind anything to them via steam input.
Not happy to see no trigger stops, and the stick position looks awkward but maybe it feels fine. Also skeptical about the d-pad but that's moddable at worst.

TMR sticks are a game changer but I am curious about that dpad. Looks too stiff for fightan games.

>>725699839
>>725699814
>not wanting to support the feature set of the best consoles of their generation
good little zogbot goy slaves.

>>725700595
touch sensitivity was fucking ass, go play a racing game with touch sensitive face buttons and it makes emulating games from that era annoying as fuck. overrated ass feature that people nostalgia fag way too hard for

>>725700769
Works great for me, must be inferior PC issues yet again.

> instead of innovating lets just add more shit to a controller
When are we going to move on and simplify the controller so we don't need fucking six thumbs?

>>725698186 (OP)
I'm a big fan of new innovations and when people break traditionally shapes and do more than just gimmicks.

>>725698186 (OP)
>shitty analog sticks that will drift in a year
COOOOOOL
keep having to buy chinkshit because no one else will use high quality parts
what a fucking joke

>>725700998
retard

>>725700998
Does he know?

>>725700769
this is playing on real hardware, you contratian fucktard

>>725698186 (OP)
As Steam fan, I'm disapointed.

>>725698186 (OP)
Steam Controller 1 has more soul though

>>725700769
The Dualshock 3 has pressure sensitive buttons too and it's easy to set up for PCSX2

>>725700769
You can map them to triggers and change sensitivity in the emulator.
You could also buy PS3 controller for cheap and use it on pc with no issues

>>725702267
They could put you thru hundreds of watts of heat to prove you're capable, but instead, you will have to barely work because 30 Watts, give or take.

>>725698186 (OP)
Honestly seeing the side profile gives me a little more confidence in its ergonomics. The trackpads seem to be in the same spot a keyboard attachment would be on other controllers.
I still think the sticks are a bit too far inward and the buttons/pad are a bit too close to the edge.

If it isn't too chunky, I might be able to finally retire my WiiU pro controller with this ting

>>725708653
Would this benefit the armored core grip?

>>725698186 (OP)
Looks like an AI-generated concept.

This seems to lack features that every chink pad has like profile switching.

>>725712765
steaminput does that retard

>>725698186 (OP)
The distance from the pads to the buttons looks really annoying to deal with.

>>725712975
Proper profile function is saved on the controller. Needing steam on at all times to use this controller sucks ass.

remove the gay back buttons or at least let them lock and retract into the controller like the tarantula pro. i hate this shit.

>>725713142
you control the buttons you press

>>725713187
not enough. i don't want to feel them at all.

>>725698949
That's because the left stick is used 99% of the time in modern games while the right stick isn't. Hope this helps.

>>725698186 (OP)
>22 diffrent buttons
>4 direction and 4 regular buttons
>2 sticks and 2 touch pads
> 4 shoulder and 4 back buttons
>gyro and grip sensitive
Pure sex. With ability to program every button to do anything you want. You finally have enough functions in one controller. With 2 joysticks and 2 pads and gyro. You have quite bit freedom. This thing will be beast in ds2

>>725713187
>swarthoid xitter quote
kys nigger

>>725713289
Right stick is used in every first person game, most 3rd person action games, and in strategy games.
The face buttons are more vestigial than the right stick, given the back paddles.

>>725713376
>most advance gyro tech
this shit fucks up EVERYONE IN FPS GAMES gyro aiming is already on par with mouse aiming including things like flicks but with aim assist its litearlly going to be hacking on any modern fps

>>725699814
I wanted to throw the thing after playing borderlands with a semi auto

>>725700961
Innovation happened with VR controllers.
Regular controler is way it is becouse idea is to have something that's easy to use when sitting in couch.
If you want "better" you use keyboard and mouse. But true innovation are vr type controllers.

>>725713376
Yeah it was totally necessary to mention all the regular buttons that come with every controller for the past 25 years. No shilling at all here seen.

Appreciate the sticks being a fuck you to Xbox but hate that giant bottom half with the trackpads.

>>725698186 (OP)
How are you supposed to wrap your fingers around the protrusions with the touchpads in the way?

>>725713581
Only controller I have used are nes and steam controller. And I like my steam controller. I'm just happy for new one that has more buttons and functions.

This doesn't look ideal for fightan games but genre is dead anyways

>>725713726
It's basically steam deck with screen removed. It suposed to rest in your hand. People say steamdeck is conformable to use. So who knows

>>725713543
Why do you just assume the sticks should both be placed below the dpad and face buttons, and needs a writen thesis to be placed elsewhere? Why do you demand symmetry when the most popular input style, keyboard and mouse doesn't have a shred of symmetry?

>>725713887
Playstation pad is worldwide standard is why.

>>725713887
>below
Claw grip.
Less necessary for this though on account of the back paddles.
The controller is also massive and you couldn't put the sticks higher without making it so only baseball players could use it.

The D-pad is the most irrelevant part of any modern controller. Putting it in the cuck corner is good.

>>725698949
Because he's a buckbroken xfag who wants something to remind him of his dying jeet company

>>725709440
Same. Idk how I feel about the trackpads being so low, looks annoying to press the shoulders and triggers at the same time as using them.

>>725713701
How else you are going to play RTS or point and click games?

>>725714056
I'm only intetested in first world.

>>725698186 (OP)
Might get it to replace my old ps3 controller, never liked the xbox layout so this looks perfect.

>>725714153
Playstation is still the standard.
No one has bought an Xbox in 10 years.

>>725714085
The dpad is also better utilized in the top corner. Almost nobody prefers Xbox layout for fighting games for instance.

>>725714232
>almost no one prefers this layout for a genre no one plays
Ok?

>>725698186 (OP)
It might turn out to be fine but I'm skeptical of how comfortable that trackpad placement will be, for heavy usage.
See my Xbox controller here? The chatpad works fine for reaching down and quickly typing something once every few minutes, but you wouldn't want to keep your thumbs resting on it continuously, like if you're having to aim or control a mouse cursor with something down there

>>725714124
If the game doesn’t have controller support I’m not playing it so that’s not something I consider.

>>725714216
Nope, Xbox/Nintendo is the standard in the first world. PS/Steam is in 3rd world shitholes.

>>725713187
too bad that series required those weapons eventually to progress so that tweet became worthless

>>725713289
The right stick is absolutely used just as much. It's for camera controls dingus. Always thought it was hilarious how you Xbox tards couldn't see that issue with your argument. Somehow stick on the left is such a big pain, but in all your Help and Gears of Wars games it's the right stick doing the work but somehow it's lowered position isn't even something you acknowledge yet you guys don't bitch about it.

>>725714769
American here. Anecdotally, I know around 10 people who have PS5s, just 2 who have a Series S and just 1 who has a Series X

>>725714614
grim

>>725714769
Xbox was a "standard" in a single generation retard. The 360 is the only era it ever had relevance. I'm not even a PlayStation fag either - but other than that single gen, PS was always the household name and standard.

>>725698186 (OP)
Correct stick placement at least. Might buy it just because of that.

>>725715159
Yep. And even then, the PS3 eventually managed to outsell the 360 worldwide

>>725714232
>The dpad is also better utilized in the top corner.
No it isn't

>>725715159
Cool but "it's just how it is" is a shity argument for a flawed control style so I'll continue preferring Xbox and Nintendo layouts since that's where my thumb rests naturally.

>>725714232
A benefit of the Xbox layout is that I can reach across and hit the dpad with my right thumb if I need to, so as not to take my left thumb off the stick and have to stop moving.
It'll be harder to do that with this layout

>>725715336
Nintendo+ Xbox outsold Sony nearly every gen. Standard is left stick up top.

>>725698186 (OP)
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>>725715836
I prefer the Xbox layout, but that's not true.
PS1, PS2 and (so far) PS5 are/were the unequivocal winners of their respective gens, selling more than their competitors combined.
8th gen is the only one where Nintendo and Xbox combined sales were greater than PS, yet the PS4 still won there

>>725716649
Nintendo and Xbox popularized dual stick shooters with Nintendo inventing it with goldeneye and Xbox perfecting it and popularizing it with Halo. Sony never had a dual stick game worth a fuck so it doesn't matter.

>>725698186 (OP)
wish the trackpads were a detachable thing but otherwise looks good, will probably pick one up if the dpad is good
>symmetrical sticks
based

>>725699471
the 8bitdo ultimate is 70 too.

>>725712151
what the fuck is this a thing??

>>725716909
Goldeneye was not a dual stick shooter, as the N64 controller only had 1 stick.
Sony was the first of them to put 2 sticks on their controller, with the Dual Analog and later the first DualShock in 1997

>>725698287
>Hey they put the sticks in the right place
They didn't.

>>725702267
As an electricity fan myself, I am mildly pleased!

>>725717289
Goldeneye had a control style using two N64 controllers both thumbs on sticks.
>Sony was the first of them to put 2 sticks on their controller
Who cares, they never used them in that manner until Xbox popularized it. It was literally an after throught to the N64 and Saturn.

>>725699038
but they didnt post the ps5 controller

>>725717791
Alien Resurrection for PS1 (2000) was the first console game to use such a control scheme.
And then a handful of PS2 games
>Red Faction
>TimeSplitters
>Quake 3
>Unreal Tournament
also did it before the Xbox and Halo came out.

>>725699471
I can live with that.
I wouldn't want it, but that's not too bad comparatively speaking for first party not chinkcrap controllers

>>725698186 (OP)
Is snappy gyro aiming going to take over?

>>725708653
lmao underrated

>>725718305
Left stick still goes up top

>>725698186 (OP)
The optimal katamari controller

>>725715051
Seriously, the stick that demands more precise movements being in the lower "inferior" position is fine, but the movement stick isn't?
Pretty flawed argument for a cockeyed controller.

>>725698186 (OP)
What kind of sticks they have? Hall effect?

>>725698186 (OP)
>looks fun
who would say this about a controller
the expected endorsement here is "looks useable"

>>725698186 (OP)
>another common win for GYRO chads
when the fuck will xbox catch up?

>>725698186 (OP)
i think this might be too big for my hands

>>725698186 (OP)
cute

>>725715805
And for that you have the right trackpad. You can bind a touch menu with up to 16 actions to it instead of only 4 (or 8) on the dpad.

>>725722381
Probably never.
For this I don't blame MS as much as I blame everyone shrieking "GIMMICK! GIMMICK! GIMMICKS BAD!" during the PS3/Wii/Kinect era, telling them that controller stagnation is what all the real gamers want

>>725698850
Why would you want the stick in a shitty unergonomic position instead of where your thumb naturally rests like it already is?
>Still wouldn't buy it tho
Alright. Enjoy having the game aim for you on your shitty xbox controller. I'll be over here aiming naturally with gyro and trackpads.

>>725699176
Totally normal response. Totally not sucking Gaben's dick. It looks shit.

>currently own 7 unopened original Steam controllers when they cleared them out
>also own 10 Steam Links
Time for my collection to grow

>>725699573
That seems like a fairly reasonable price for a nice controller? I think I bought my switch pro controller for like 60 way back when that was a thing

>>725724358
Reminder that Microsoft set this precedent and fucked the standard controller before this complaint even fucking existed.

>>725724620
Did they? How, by creating XInput on PC?
They certainly didn't come up with the layout

>>725698186 (OP)
how can a controller look fun you fucking mouthbreather

>>725724776
Gyro was potentially known as new innovation controllers would move to as early as gen 6, after lazily copying the dreamcast controller for the duke, they basically screwed every platform by having NO means to do any sort of motion input and for parity that meant it fucked everything on every other platform

>>725725007
Ah, so they should have done it because the Wii and PS3 were also going to do it. That's fair I suppose.
Sucks that they later went the Kinect route, instead of something more like PS Move, mimicking the Wii and making something similar to the VR controllers we have today

>>725725647
Well they had no real option, xinput is so haphazardly slapped together they'd basically have to retool the whole system and hope emulation could cover current gen games from breaking.

>>725715036
I agree that "you control the buttons you press" is a shitty deflection when it comes to game design, but on a controller it's true. You don't have to press the back buttons unless you explicitly wish to do so, and they won't affect your experience otherwise.

>>725713581
Call me when you have 64+ actions available on a regular controller (16 on each trackpad times 2 with a layer switch, even more with more than 2 layers)

>>725713726
>How are you supposed to wrap your fingers around the protrusions
How the fuck do you normally hold your controllers? I'm genuinenly curious. Can you post a pic?

I can't wait for the Chinese to start copying that design kekekekeke

Where's L3 and R3? Don't tell me it's the sticks, no one likes clicking the sticks

>>725728124
it would still be balanced around it. unless it specifically tracks weapon usage and notices your not using a specific attack (which hey, if it does, props to them thats good game design ), its going to assume you did use all weapons at your disposal. the healthpacks, ammo drops, yadda yadda, (should) be carefully determined by what your expected to have.

imagine if you just decided to not use the double barrel shotgun in the zombies section of timesplitters. youd be fucked, because its designed around having the double barrel shotgun.

>>725728915
you can bind anything to anything, steam ini shit is fucking awesome. want half l2 press to be l2 and full l2 press to be l3, go for it. want hold one of those back buttons to be a shift layer so l2 is l3, fine. wanna hold the controller at a 30 degree tilt left so l2 is l3, do it baguette.

>>725714351
The trackpads on the SC aren't nearly as far down as the chatpad in that pic. They're pretty comfortable on the Deck, which this heavily copies.

>>725714153
no one in europe (white people) owns an xbox

>>725699363
but does it have a headphone jack?

>>725724472
>It looks shit
It's a fucking controller. Normal people look at the game when gaming instead of down at the controller. What matter is the functionality and comfort, and this will be better than basically any other controller in both regards.

Today I will remind everyone that the Steam Controller is the perfect control method for Kid Icarus Uprising.
You have no excuse.

>>725729129
I was agreeing with you. Games are designed around you using all the actions at your disposal, so it's not really an option to just not use some mechanic you don't like. With controllers, however, if you don't like the fact that it has trackpads or back buttons or whatever, you can simply choose to not press them.

>>725713581
I loved my steam controller for my metroidvanias but damn when trying silksong after not using it for 6 years I realized that now my thumbs hit each other when i use the stick and xyab

>>725699471
patient troll them and snag it for $5

>>725700595
nigger

>>725713142
enjoy clawing bro

>>725730056
oh yeah i wasn't disagreeing, i was just being hyperbolic i guess.

still, it would be annoying to have moving parts where you are expecting a solid part to hold onto. the solution is literally just tape, but its 4chan so im gonna be needlessly aggressive and call you a douchebag to keep the status quo up, or something.

>>725722381
yes, they could have had a great thing going if not on the retarded insistence on avoiding gyro and TMR sticks at all costs. They are also the only company without any haptics.
But I am so big mad that the companies with the biggest resources avoid TMR and Hall sticks like the plague just to rip us off with defective controllers out of the box.

>>725713142
Just don't use the buttons, you'll be alright.

>>725730316
>annoying to have moving parts where you are expecting a solid part
True I guess, but they are just buttons. They really won't move much.
>but its 4chan so im gonna be needlessly aggressive and call you a douchebag
Fair enough, faggot.

Sigh. At first I was like "I'll finally be able to buy a steam controller". Then I realised those seem to be the same d-pad and buttons as the ones in the steam deck.
I accept/cancel japanese style, and the non-flat B button that looks like it melted is something I hate.

>>725698186 (OP)
the only thing im interested in getting if its well priced otherwise i will just get a 8bitdo controller

>>725698186 (OP)
Too big

how is the dpad on the steam deck? I assume it'll use the same parts, my 8bitdo pro2 is getting really worn down and I need a replacement, might just wait for this

>>725730543
they tend to release 3d models of their stuff so that modders and companies can make replacement parts/cases real easy. someone will have different buttons ready to go real fast i bet. and valve usually doesnt care if you open your stuff up, replacing that shouldnt void it. although i get if you think thats too much effort, just sayin it should be easy.

just for neatness sake, heres the pages where they released the straight up CAD files for both.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/353370/view/3931035846865618326
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675180/view/3106923225208810470

they even released the steamdecks CAD files before it even came out so people could 3d print/make cases preemptively. im sure as soon as the final design for the new steam controller is set in stone they will release one for it as well.

>>725731467
Fuck, I did not even consider that it would be possible to replace it with a flat button. Thanks.

>>725698186 (OP)
The bumpers/triggers are always in the wrong spot. No one has hands like that.
I have never held a controller that is comfortable to grip and that allows me to reach all the buttons with my fingers unbent in non fucked up ways.

>>725730543
Do you have a steam deck? The buttons on the controller are FAR bigger than those on the deck, it's not even close, a slight "dropoff" of the B button is irrelevant.

>>725731745
i didnt look hard, but someone did just that for the deck, it has the same kinda annoying curved button? someone made concaves for it so its totally a thing that should pop up.

>>725698186 (OP)
I really want it dude
looks amazing

>>725732304
Yep, I have one (can't look at it right now). And that's what I began thinking a bit later, that the drop shape seems to be a lot less pronounced in the new steam controller. If it is similar to the Dual Sense's circle button, It should be fine for me. I need to look at it in detail when I get back home.

Xbox is probably the weirdest one with almost every button having a unique shape, but I guess it's a matter of personal preferences. The Switch controller is not great and it was more of a gyro tax for me, but I definitely like the face buttons.

>>725698186 (OP)
my hands get itchy just by looking at this image

>>725699038
Valve goes for function over aesthetics. They actually use the controllers they make and aren't just trying to sell you a nice looking product that sucks to actually use.

>>725724063
lol

>>725717913
What's so bad about it? Genuinely asking.

>>725734078
The buttons on the controller are also not domed like on Deck, not as much at least.
It is very hard for me to play games like Silksong that need precision and readiness on Deck, that's why I use a DS4 when I play at work undocked. But I think that's mostly a problem of how tiny and close to each other the buttons are, rather than them being domed. Hard to say.

>>725734451
imo it has worse ergonomics than the ps4 controller and is less comfortable.

>announce peripheral
>"looks fun"
who talks like this

>>725713289
you mean movie games

>>725735082
I mean I can see myself having fun with the Deck's nice ass controls in the form of a controller.

>>725699038
that's not wiiu controller

>>725698186 (OP)
No it doesn't.

>>725721230
TMR

>>725708653
Perfection

>>725734476
>The buttons on the controller are also not domed like on Deck, not as much at least.

Interesting. I like that the Deck buttons are big enough to be comfortable when compared to the deck, but the dome shape was... Not great, not terrible. It's probably a reasonable design choice if your target audience is used to Xbox controllers, something that was the norm before the Dual Shock 4 got popular with PC gamers and third party controllers got decent enough.
I suppose they will release a press kit with better images than the ones in the store in the next days.

>>725735497
Yeah, I use the DS4 everytime I can. It's not perfect by any means but among those I've tried it's the one I feel most comfortable with.

>>725698186 (OP)
People complaining that this is too huge for a controller have clearly never had an Xbox 360 growing up.

>People complaining that this is too huge for a controller have clearly never had an Xbox 360 growing up.
Or a Gamecube.

>>725699038
>worst looking controller ever made
Do you mean worst looking as in it looks stupid, or as in it looks uncomfortable?
If the former, it doesn't matter how it looks. If the latter, it will be really comfortable based on the Deck.

>>725698287
Not highly advertised, but the Steam Deck's touchpads are pressure-sensitive, so this controller's probably are too

>>725698186 (OP)
>Looks fun

it looks so fucking ugly,

>>725698186 (OP)
Looks better than the original steam controller and it looks like the trigger buttons won't be clunky when you press them. Only thing I hate about the steam controller is how clunky it is, especially the dpad.

>>725735381
cope. it's just the Deck's control layout translated to a standalone controller, of course it does. not saying it’s perfect, but pretending there's zero overlap is just denial. you can literally see the same trackpads, same grip buttons, even the same offset sticks. it's Valve's design language now.

>>725737469
Does it fucking matter? You're looking at the game anyway. There's no other controller with features or comfort even approaching this.

>>725715769
Except yet again, if it's "so flawed" why did you fags never complain about the right stick? It's easy - because it isn't flawed, and console warriors are still uppity about gay shit from 3 generations ago. Just accept you lost lol

What are the chances Valve will release Aperture Desk Job tier tech demo for the controller to convince people to buy this?

>>725738604
They did. It's called Aperture Desk Job.

>>725735772
The DS4 does not have the most comfortable d-pad, but at least it's pretty accurate. With a bad one it's impossible to walk in a straight line with tank controls (emulating Resident Evil 1 or Hard Edge).

With regards to this one.
- I wish the d-pad was textured.
- Waiting for the iFixit review, but the battery will probably be pretty easy to replace if it follows the same design philosophy as the deck.
- The 3 dots button looks like an improvement compared to the one in the deck.
- Pending to see it they improve the sticks over deck. The sticks end scratching themselves against the shell's border and making movement less smooth, but that's probably me putting too many hours on Binding of Isaac.
- Almost the same weight as the Dual Sense and the xbox series controller.

I'm curious, but I can't justify buying yet another controller. Most of the time I play on desktop, so I don't need the touchpads. Luckily I know of at least one friend that will buy it and let me try.

so with the haptic feedback and the zone sensors, you could make it vibrate differently as you touch the rub your finger across the center of the pads, and vibrate less across the outer regions, to simulate the sensation of rubbing someones nipples

just sayin

>>725742334
Fuck. I just imagined the "ick on eck" guy playing with it. Let's hope we get new janitors asap before he records a new video.

>>725698186 (OP)
So if this is going to have back buttons, will I finally be able to use the ones on my 8bitdo ultimate pro super giga wireless 2? People say there's beta firmware for the controller on steam but I've never found out how to even use it, so I have like four extra buttons that I can't use on every game.

>>725698186 (OP)
My steam deck sticks have pretty bad snapback, so if I for ex flick the stick left, it's possible my character ends up facing right after they dash left. I've heard these sticks are different. Anyone can say if it'll prevent snapback?

>>725698186 (OP)
Will it be better than 8bitdo though?

>>725742546
>Let's hope we get new janitors asap
let's hope your newfag zoomer ass gets banned first

>>725698850
The objectively best position for the joysticks are to be on the bottom and horizontal of each other, so you can easily claw the dpad like you would the face buttons, without having to take your thumb off of a joystick.

Any other dog shit opinion need not apply.

>>725698186 (OP)
If there is no option to change the trigger shoulder buttons from analog to digital I'll pass.

>>725745617
...considering thats been a feature of both the steam deck and the steam controller, that would be an unusual ommission

I don't love the stick placement and I don't love the bulkiness of the trackpad placement.

But I absolutely love the wireless adapter/charger thing. Apparently if you have multiple you can instantly pair the controller to your device by simply tapping it on the adapter which is huge.

I'll probably end up getting one.

>>725735886
or OG Xbox for that matter

>>725744676
I certainly am waiting for the improved chink version

>>725724423
The thumb naturally rests where the DPAD currently is you goddamn retard

>>725728670
Okay, but it doesn't look much different from how anyone else would hold it.

>>725698186 (OP)
Hall effect?

>>725746982
Gimbal mechanism, so inferior to Sega Saturn 3D controller tech despite all the TMR hoopla.

>>725699038
The coolest thing about PC is you can have so many ways to interact with it. I seen a guy play Counter Strike with a racing wheel!

>>725698186 (OP)
ngl I like the touchpads

>>725740380
I play metroidvanias liek Silksong with with the analog... it's just more comfortable for me, especially for the half directions (up+right etc.) and the spacing.
Instead for some reason I prefer d-pad for racing games. I feel like I have finer control

Same, I want it but i don't really need it. Just bought a Switch Pro and I have 3 working DS4.

>>725717317
BASED

>>725714614
But with the trackpads, RTS and point and click games will now all have controller support!

>>725698850
>Put the left stick up top.
>Still wouldn't buy it tho.
Like poetry

>>725699573
no they'll use tmr and are stubby with no way to increase resistance so you can forget about having any kind of accuracy without some shit like control freaks

>>725717317
seriously why does NO ONE copy this design its perfect

>>725699471
the gaystation controller is 80 and has half of the features and no magnetic sticks that eventually drift

>>725746708
I mean they're not really wrapped around in your pic. Not completely anyway. Your middle and ring fingers are supposed to go on the back buttons with your pinky free on the Steam Controller, not wrap around

>>725737469
ah yes I remember buying controllers to LOOK at them

>>725699038
You're staring at the screen, not your fucking controller.

>>725729686
Use case for a headphone jack in a PC controller?

>>725754378
>using a controller for accuracy
Yeah, that's why you use a mouse for fps and other retarded genres.

Make it Duke large, then I’ll buy it

>>725699363
>Capacitive grip sense
What

This will unironically be a great controller if they dont fuck up the quality
The only good controllers in 2025 are gamesar or flydigi.

>>725757614
apparently so are the analog sticks. so you can just tap them with your finger and thats an input, as well as "pushing them in". for whatever reason

>>725757039
it's why you don't use kbm for dark souls and other games where movemen and acceleration/deceleration matter

>>725698186 (OP)
I'll buy it with gusto.

>>725714232
>Almost nobody prefers fighting games.

>>725759754
>rollslop
>movement and acceleration/deceleration matter
lol
lmao
xD even

>>725735886
see >>725714351
The chatpad serves its purpose but that placement is not something you'd want to actually play a game with

>>725758267
For whatever inputs you want to, one of the use cases was setting the gyro recenter to one of those spots.

My hands are too big for this. Where do my fingers go? Just awkwardly hover behind the black plastic?

>>725761397
They should have moved the sticks way up like with the steam deck.

I have a deck.
If they decided to just use the same internals for the controller, then it's absolutely fucked. The analogs are fine (it has capacitive caps, which is nice), the buttons are mostly fine, the shoulder buttons are mediocre, the back buttons are dogshit, but the worst, the worst thing is the d-pad. If you never had one it is just fucking awful. I already have a really good chinese controller and a dualsense and the touchpads and capacitive thumbsticks aren't enough to make me want this. It should have a good d-pad.