Thread 725712353

Why did this happen?

>>725712353 (OP)
Dimitri saved three houses.

>hey you know how people liked all this stuff about Fire Emblem, and Three Houses sold like 4 million copies and dominated CYL for years
>what if for the next game we didn't do any of that
I genuinely think the FE4 remake was in the pipeline, hence the conspicuous absence of FE4/FE5 profile options among the Switch 2 avatars while every other FE is represented, even with old ass art, but also that if they tried to follow Engage's tepid reception with FE4 it would probably cripple a franchise that was just a few years ago at the apex of its power.

And so here we are, Four Houses.

>>725712676
>Xhe still copes about a FE4 remake
Kek

Cutesythea

>>725712353 (OP)

>good srpg with fun dialogue
>good srpg with bad dialogue

stabby mcStabby lol

>3hrt
>good

>>725713001
>stabby mcStabby
Pointy Demonspanker is a far better name for Falchion than that

>>725712353 (OP)
If the last reported number for Engage was the second quarter of its release year while Three Houses was last quarter of 2022, like three years after the release, is it not an impressive feat on Engage's part to sell maybe a third of 3H's numbers in less than a year? Since they haven't updated the numbers either, it would be fair to say that both 3H and Engage had more sales after the fact and Engage would at least be in the 2 million range by now.

Nammy, you know what to do.

>>725714525
Make jannie's life hell by following in Vidya Butts' footsteps? I'd praise Nam as a Fire Emblem Hero if he did that.

3rannies inflating the numbers

alear's nice puffy pussy > edelchud

>previous thread that was relatively civil gets deleted
>gamewar thread takes its place
Anyone else nooticing how often this happens?

Why can't we just enjoy both?
They are both better than Shadow Dragon and Awakening. Isn't that all we truly ask?

I like Shadow Dragon.

I like Awakening.

I like Engage.

toothpaste hair

grandma hair

Blue hair

>fucking mario golf sold more than this trash
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>725715076
Her canon cameltoe doesn’t really get depicted all that often in fanart. Which is odd, since you’d think the fandom would be all over that.

>>725716419
Nigga, you just put Mario in the title and it outsells 75% of the entire industry.

>>725712353 (OP)
I didnt buy it purely because of the protagonists appearance
Watched a friend play through the opening story beats, made me glad about my choice

>>725719093
>I didnt buy it purely because of the protagonists appearance
>Watched a friend play through the opening story beats, made me glad about my choice
>>725716419
> >fucking mario golf sold more than this trash
>BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>725714719
>Make jannie's life hell by following in Vidya Butts' footsteps? I'd praise Nam as a Fire Emblem Hero if he did that.
>>725714525
>Nammy, you know what to do.
>>725712353 (OP)
>Why did this happen?

Just look at the SHARTracter designs

>>725715292
The guy fucking hates when people talk about games instead of the my game>your game shit. He reports threads he doesn't like so he can make console wars ones instead.

>>725720734
>Just look at the SHARTracter designs

Character designs look like shit.

3H had spotty performance, Engage didn't improve.

I've heard almost nobody talk about the Engage story, but 3H still gets threads of people arguing about warcrimes.

>>725712353 (OP)
engage panders to memberberries and most fire emblem fans haven't played anything earlier than awakening

>>725721709
>story
>warcrimes
we dont care about those things

for me, its about the girls

Complete Edel domination.

>>725712353 (OP)
People don't like censorship and shitty localizers, which is prevalent in Engage

>Jade thread fell off
No fans even on /v/, sad!

you know why i like engage? it because i dont have to deal with reddit discussion such as war crimes

>>725722931
I didn't even know there was one

>>725722931
sorry bro. i was busy with something

>>725721709
>Character designs look like shit.
>3H had spotty performance, Engage didn't improve.
>I've heard almost nobody talk about the Engage story, but 3H still gets threads of people arguing about warcrimes.
>>725721813
>engage panders to memberberries and most fire emblem fans haven't played anything earlier than awakening
>>725722173
>People don't like censorship and shitty localizers, which is prevalent in Engage
>>725722931
> >Jade thread fell off
>No fans even on /v/, sad

maybe if we can make jade viable in battle, we might get some discussions about her..

>>725712353 (OP)
fans didn't like Engage as much because:
1. it feels like it relies too much on nostalgia
2. people didn't like the cutsey uwu anime style Engage had compared to Three Houses which they considered more refined and matured.
3. Three Houses is already such a massive beefy game with loads of replayability that there was less need to buy another one

Probably why they return to the Three Houses art style with the new one.

>>725723286
>fans didn't like Engage as much because:
>1. it feels like it relies too much on nostalgia
>2. people didn't like the cutsey uwu anime style Engage had compared to Three Houses which they considered more refined and matured.
>3. Three Houses is already such a massive beefy game with loads of replayability that there was less need to buy another one

>Probably why they return to the Three Houses art style with the new one.

>>725722964
You don't have to deal with any discussion at all LMAO

>>725723563
>You don't have to deal with any discussion at all LMAO

>>725721709
Damn is warcrimes a trigger word for some people?

Maybe I should have said bernieposting instead.

Because Fire Emblem has always been a niche IP and Three Houses was a blip in the radar because it turned the game into Persona and cranked the waifu/husbando bait to 11?
It worked but it was a monkey's paw like the Persona fans that got in for P4. That was the only thing they knew about the franchise and they kept on riding high on mount stupid for years talking shit all the time, and getting smacked also all the time.
Engage reduced the waifuslop just a bit, FE18 will most likely to keep decreasing it. That'll keep happening until Nintendo threatens IS again that they'll can the IP and they'll deliver another FE following whatever trend is cool by that time to lure tourists in.
Happened with Awakening being a dating sim
Happened with 3H being Persona
Will happen with whatever next FE requires to boost up the sales
Anyway, Tana cute

>>725724958
>Damn is warcrimes a trigger word for some people?

>Maybe I should have said bernieposting instead.

>>725712353 (OP)
Would have unironically been the reverse if you swapped the release dates for the games.

>>725723286
I don't many fans hate Engage, it's just very forgettable.
General audience didn't buy it because of how it looked and it didn't have much any word of mouth that would give it long legs because there's just nothing to talk about, the story is extremely bland and the gameplay is better than 3H but it's not so dramatically different that it'd cause any buzz outside of hardcore FE-fag circles.

>>725725385
>I don't many fans hate Engage, it's just very forgettable.
>General audience didn't buy it because of how it looked and it didn't have much any word of mouth that would give it long legs because there's just nothing to talk about, the story is extremely bland and the gameplay is better than 3H but it's not so dramatically different that it'd cause any buzz outside of hardcore FE-fag circles.

I have never played a fire emblem game. Should I play 3 houses or engage?

>>725725632
If you want a dating sim with a bit of tacked on gameplay play 3h. If you want a strategy game with vtuber character designs and an incredibly barebones story play Engage.

>>725712464
No.

>>725712353 (OP)
3 Houses was so bad it hurt the franchise so loyalists didn't bother with the next entry

>>725725783
>>725725892
>>725725935

>>725723286
4. Yumes didn't have good looking dudes apart from Diamant if you're generous.

>>725723286
I didn't buy engage because 3H was low effort copypasta in it's first phase, rushed and unfinished in its war phase

>>725712353 (OP)
constant unhinged engage hate threads years after the fact really make me buy into the theory that kekmo paid for the SBI extortion fee but IS did not

>>725725935
Sounds like cope to me, if three houses was so bad how the hell did it get so much community engagement, and win players voice at the tga.

>>725712676
Too bad Three Houses had a shitty artist and not good gameplay. Engage had such better gameplay it's insane but art for Engage still ain't good, went from frog faces to moe.

>>725726723
out of those two Engage is the one with a trannie character though

>>725726723
Troongayge is woke as fuck though.

>>725726717
>I didn't buy engage because 3H was low effort copypasta in it's first phase, rushed and unfinished in its war phase

>>725726819
>Sounds like cope to me, if three houses was so bad how the hell did it get so much community engagement, and win players voice at the tga.
>>725727106
>Too bad Three Houses had a shitty artist and not good gameplay. Engage had such better gameplay it's insane but art for Engage still ain't good, went from frog faces to moe.
>>725727183
>out of those two Engage is the one with a trannie character though

>>725727315
>Troongayge is woke as fuck though.

>>725725632
engage if you're heterosexual
3h if you're tranny

>>725729162
>>725725632
This but the opposite.

>>725715292
Trannyjanny hates two things - horsegirls, and people actually having fun discussing video games. It's at that point, the solution becomes obvious of what to do and post about.

THIS THREAD NEEDS A HERO!

>>725729225
>This but the opposite.

>>725722931
The only Jade /v/ likes these days is the Jade Wyverns.

>>725729369
>The only Jade /v/ likes these days is the Jade Wyverns.

>>725712353 (OP)
I just want another Awakening. Give me back my eugenics simulator.

>>725712353 (OP)
Because 3 houses actually felt like it had some interesting shit going on with the different factions all being characters you grew to know before they became enemies + them each having different, arguably justified goals.

engage meanwhile felt like a boring slog with no unforeseen twists and nothing but generic good guys vs bad guys crap. + Protagonist was shit, + localisation was shit.

>>725723286
>2. people didn't like the cutsey uwu anime style Engage had compared to Three Houses which they considered more refined and matured.
If "refined and matured" means "otome game art with fishlips and sameface", then fuck me, I don't get kids these days and their taste in art.

I wouldn't mald so much about Weave existing if they just opted for a different artist. Get Ippei next time, everyone likes Ippei.

>>725729557
>Because 3 houses actually felt like it had some interesting shit going on with the different factions all being characters you grew to know before they became enemies + them each having different, arguably justified goals.

>engage meanwhile felt like a boring slog with no unforeseen twists and nothing but generic good guys vs bad guys crap. + Protagonist was shit, + localisation was shit.

>>725726374
Even then the localisation team censored/outright cut half of the romance content so even if they found someone they liked there was a good chance their dialogue would've been neutered anyway.

>>725729625
>Even then the localisation team censored/outright cut half of the romance content so even if they found someone they liked there was a good chance their dialogue would've been neutered anyway.

soo what's the deal with the schizo?

>>725729369
>pronouns

>>725729675
just report and ignore

>>725729675
>soo what's the deal with the schizo?

>>725729718
>just report and ignore

>>725712353 (OP)
One was shilled insanely hard every direct for 2.5 years
The other one received so little advertisement that people unironically thought that it was a gacha game. Also, it appeared in one single direct, the same one that showed the first real TOTK trailer

>>725729018
Why is someone posting hideous ai generated images on purpose?
Is this the cowardice of sharty ipad kids?

>>725729845
>Why is someone posting hideous ai generated images on purpose?
>Is this the cowardice of sharty ipad kids?

>>725729582
> sameface
ah yes, these characters look exactly the same.

is this the same schizo who shut down gw2 threads for like 4 years?

>>725729984
>is this the same schizo who shut down gw2 threads for like 4 years?

>>725729948
yes. they both look ugly

>>725730192
ugly is at least unique

>>725712353 (OP)
The amount of cope in this thread is unreal, kek.
Anyway, the reason it sold is worse because it looked like shit and is written like shit

>>725730260
true

>>725729845
There's a Canadian named Calbert who got assblasted on an FE Discord or something, so now he schizoposts porn and gore on every FE thread across /v/ and /vg/, has been doing it for five years straight, and not only do jannies let him get away with it, but the Canadian government doesn't put him in the government-sanctioned euthenasia chamber for far-gone mental cases.

>>725730225
>ugly is at least unique
>>725730260
>The amount of cope in this thread is unreal, kek.
Anyway, the reason it sold is worse because it looked like shit and is written like shit

>Look mom, I'm posting gore, but it's AI gore!
Zoomers make everything gay, holy shit!

>>725730225
ugly ass game
ugly ass characters
source of all schizo
>at least
no thanks

>>725730319
Hey, I was just making a point, sameface wasn't really the issue in 3H

>>725730280
>true
>>725730283
>There's a Canadian named Calbert who got assblasted on an FE Discord or something, so now he schizoposts porn and gore on every FE thread across /v/ and /vg/, has been doing it for five years straight, and not only do jannies let him get away with it, but the Canadian government doesn't put him in the government-sanctioned euthenasia chamber for far-gone mental cases.

>>725730314
> Look mom, I'm posting gore, but it's AI gore!
>Zoomers make everything gay, holy shit!

>>725730319
>>725730192

>>725730360
>Hey, I was just making a point, sameface wasn't really the issue in 3H

I don't know jack shit about tactics games. Just started playing Tactics Ogre, how does FE compare?

>>725712464
Yes.

>>725730460
Modern FE isn't really that focused on the tactics aspect.

>>725730609
So it's more of a 4 niggas in a line game where you just happen to move along a grid? Like Trails?

>>725730640
Nah you have teams of a dozen or more, though you can make it less if you want, its mainly just that even with the hard mode its not really that difficult or complex.

>>725712353 (OP)
because both character designs and the story are absolute ass on engage
even if gameplay is among the best, presentation took a major hit

>>725730319
>Why does this strategy game with an engine made to be seen from top down not sport the most realistic AAA graphics?

>>725730910
>because both character designs and the story are absolute ass on engage
>even if gameplay is among the best, presentation took a major hit

>>725731039
> >Why does this strategy game with an engine made to be seen from top down not sport the most realistic AAA graphics?

>>725730319
>the worst recent FE artist
>looks like shit
>runs like shit
>gameplay is mid
And yet, people still like it more than Engage because the characters and story are good.

>>725731246
> >the worst recent FE artist
> >looks like shit
> >runs like shit
> >gameplay is mid
>And yet, people still like it more than Engage because the characters and story are good.

>>725712353 (OP)
Fire Emblem is a dogshit series and even the tasteless fans of it couldn't abide the main character design in Engage. I mean just look at that horrid thing. Half red half blue hair? What the fuck were they thinking?

>>725731367
>Fire Emblem is a dogshit series and even the tasteless fans of it couldn't abide the main character design in Engage. I mean just look at that horrid thing. Half red half blue hair? What the fuck were they thinking?

>>725712676
Theodorable

4chan is so fucking shit, this retard has been spamming every FE thread for years now and they're completely incapable of getting rid of him.

>>725731656
I feel like schizos realized a few years ago that they can ruin specific threads just by being dedicated and spamming, making anonymous imageboards basically unusable

>>725729582
>this is a 0/10 in Elibe

>>725731656
>4chan is so fucking shit, this retard has been spamming every FE thread for years now and they're completely incapable of getting rid of him.
>>725731730
>I feel like schizos realized a few years ago that they can ruin specific threads just by being dedicated and spamming, making anonymous imageboards basically unusable

Xhe can't ruin because I [-]

>>725731656
I have nostalgia for the comfy Fates release threads, when /feg/ was actually usable and all people had to worry about was Raul, Silasfag, and the one guy who kept putting Etika's playthough in the OP post.

>>725731814
>Xhe can't ruin because I [-]

>>725731913
I think that Silas fuckhead was the most annoying cunt because he couldn't stop salivating over niggers and bringing it up 24/7

>>725731913
> I have nostalgia for the comfy Fates release threads, when /feg/ was actually usable and all people had to worry about was Raul, Silasfag, and the one guy who kept putting Etika's playthough in the OP post.

>>725729582
"Otome style" is wide and varied. In general what they like are attractive fashionable designs, especially in the clothing. You can see that with the school uniform in 3 Houses. For instance, Hidari's artstyle is very close to an otome artsyle.

Why does FE specifically attracts lunatic trannies who spam their disgusting fetishes everywhere?

>>725712991
>tiny womanlet built for manhandeling acting like she's tough and powerful
cute

>>725732197
She would woman handle me
t. 5'8, 120lbs, single digit body fat
Bonus question: FE girls I could beat in a fight?

>>725732125
> Why does FE specifically attracts lunatic trannies who spam their disgusting fetishes everywhere?

Troons are so fucking disgusting man.
Whenever they start angrily spamming it's always gore, scat, or CP, I've noticed that on several boards.
Demonic people.

>>725732331
>Troons are so fucking disgusting man.
>Whenever they start angrily spamming it's always gore, scat, or CP, I've noticed that on several boards.
>Demonic people.

>>725729675
He transitioned and now has buyer's remorse.

>>725731913
Turns out that mobilefags are the absolute worst, who would have guessed.

>>725731246
It is kinda weird how mediocre gameplay can be carried by good characters and a good story, but a bad story and bad characters can't be carried by good gameplay.
Guess the doom man saying the story in a video game is as important as the story in porn wasn't right after all.

>>725729557
Honestly, 3 Houses was another attempt to recreate Awakening, with the devs actively ignoring the actual feedback that Awakening got leading to them making Awakening but worse due to them doubling down on ideas that seem popular with secondaries.

>>725731913
Beruka is a desperately underrated girl

>>725732386
> He transitioned and now has buyer's remorse.

>>725732392
> Turns out that mobilefags are the absolute worst, who would have guessed.

>>725732450
> It is kinda weird how mediocre gameplay can be carried by good characters and a good story, but a bad story and bad characters can't be carried by good gameplay.
>Guess the doom man saying the story in a video game is as important as the story in porn wasn't right after all.

>>725732479
There's only one reason why Beruka hasn't left my mind

>>725712464
If the game was only Dimitri it wouldn't have been that popular. The variety and clashing perspectives was the games saving grace.

>>725731913
fates era wasn't much better.
It was 90% awakening/fates babies waifufagging. It was all downhill from there with the gachafags making it completely unusable

If you hate Engage, you are not true FE fun, you are just new fag

>>725712464
People came to 3 Houses for Edelgard and to a lesser extent Claude but stayed for Dimitri.

>>725732512
>had a pic saved of that takedown he did on Raul
>also had a pic saved of a guy nailing Rhajat for 900 damage in her Fates chapter and Raul seething endlessly about it
>both of them were lost to a broken hard drive
>Raul doesn't even like Tharja anymore
Man, where does the time go...?

>>725732679
It was still better than the 3H era, that was just schizos screaming at eachother all day long while some dudes waifufagged in the background

>>725731656
The schizo who made this thread deserves this guy.

>>725732732
> >had a pic saved of that takedown he did on Raul
> >also had a pic saved of a guy nailing Rhajat for 900 damage in her Fates chapter and Raul seething endlessly about it
> >both of them were lost to a broken hard drive
> >Raul doesn't even like Tharja anymore
>Man, where does the time go...?

>>725732797
I personally found Edeltards getting embarrassed to be hilarious thing about it. That is until that fujo spammers would make the threads unusable.

>>725732797
At this point I miss the Edelfag who made threads every day and got increasingly mad when people said she was both evil and retarded. We got some gems like almyran raiders stealing Flayn's dragon stone.

Edelgard needs to be chained in a Kingdom dungeon

>>725732932
>abzngp.jpg

>>725732732
It's strang to think about it, isn't it? All the ancient /feg/ pics I have are over 10 years old and survived two PCs all because I'm paranoid and do a lot of backups

>>725726374
>>725729625
I honestly don't think that that particular dev team realizes how big of a group yumes actually are. I think that that dev team honestly thought that fujos were the largest female group and then found out the hard way that that wasn't the case at all.

>>725732815
i mean he is literally the anti engage schizo in the non twitter images...

>>725732981
Not muh Almyran raids

>>725733091
i literally just made this in two seconds on meme generator and saved it as is. i don't bother changing file names

>>725732981
Edeltards might've peaked there

>>725733232
>i literally just made this in two seconds on meme generator and saved it as is. i don't bother changing file names

>>725731246
>because the characters and story are good.
delusional

>>725733934
projecting 'jeet itt

>>725734016
>projecting 'jeet itt

Can someone give me a quick rundown on this schizo? I keep seeing its posts when scrolling through /v/.

>>725734174
>Can someone give me a quick rundown on this schizo? I keep seeing its posts when scrolling through /v/.

>>725734174
Shut the fuck up tranny.

>>725734174
I also want the rundown, somebody educate me

>>725712353 (OP)
Edelgard, Dimitri and the brown one were better than toothpaste chan.

>>725734174
>>725734289
Who do you think is going to know? Some tard is spamming 4chan with something. Is he seething? Is he Autistic? Will we ever know and will it ever be worth knowing? No, probably not

>>725733232
>anti-anti-tranny meme
i made this comment in 1 second. lol, shut up tranny

>leave FE threads for a month
>return
>they got worse
I don't know what I was expecting

>>725734289
>I also want the rundown, somebody educate me

>>725734337
>Edelgard, Dimitri and the brown one were better than toothpaste chan.

>>725734414
>Who do you think is going to know? >Some tard is spamming 4chan with something. Is he seething? Is he Autistic? >Will we ever know and will it ever be worth knowing? No, probably not
>>725734635
> >leave FE threads for a month
> >return
> >they got worse
>I don't know what I was expecting

>>725733116
Fujos have it even worse in Engage.

>>725734174
Guy got banned from the feh discord and iirc he thinks some russian guy that hates engage did it so he thinks every anti engage post is him so he spams ai scat/gore of him on every FE related thread and his family and friends fb/twitter, he also defends raul for some reason

>>725734746
>Guy got banned from the feh discord
kekk no way, imagine this being your villain origin story

>>725734746
>Guy got banned from the feh discord and iirc he thinks some russian guy that hates engage did it so he thinks every anti engage post is him so he spams ai scat/gore of him on every FE related thread and his family and friends fb/twitter, he also defends raul for some reason

>>725734979
> >Guy got banned from the feh discord
>kekk no way, imagine this being your villain origin story

>>725734746
Damn that's fucking retarded even by 4chan schizo standards

>>725734746
Discord really is the place for all the mentally ill retarded, geez

>>725735276
>Damn that's fucking retarded even by 4chan schizo standards
>>725735314
>Discord really is the place for all the mentally ill retarded, geez

>>725712353 (OP)
I enjoyed the gameplay and maps in Engage, but only holy shit, the post-game is so awful, along with getting the DLC characters that I haven't played it since beating the game the first time. I have over 200 hours on Three Houses, and that's because the post-game offers so many ways to try different builds, such as getting a mediocre character like Raph with Quick Riposte, giving any of your fav characters skills, abilities, and battalions early in the game at the hardest difficulty, making them all viable. The DLC characters also get unlocked very early on after you beat the DLC.

Engage? There's barely any post-game content. You can't restart and try different builds because none of the resources you receive carry over in NG+, and oh, you have to beat the DLC every time in every playthrough if you want to use the DLC characters. If you want to try different builds or have a preference for certain characters, it sucks because your favorite mediocre character has to be babied every step of the way, and it's way harder to try other builds because, from the start, you have to decide who you're going to train and how you're going to do it with resources, since you start with nothing.

>>725735496
> I enjoyed the gameplay and maps in Engage, but only holy shit, the post-game is so awful, along with getting the DLC characters that I haven't played it since beating the game the first time. I have over 200 hours on Three Houses, and that's because the post-game offers so many ways to try different builds, such as getting a mediocre character like Raph with Quick Riposte, giving any of your fav characters skills, abilities, and battalions early in the game at the hardest difficulty, making them all viable. The DLC characters also get unlocked very early on after you beat the DLC.

>Engage? There's barely any post-game content. You can't restart and try different builds because none of the resources you receive carry over in NG+, and oh, you have to beat the DLC every time in every playthrough if you want to use the DLC characters. If you want to try different builds or have a preference for certain characters, it sucks because your favorite mediocre character has to be babied every step of the way, and it's way harder to try other builds because, from the start, you have to decide who you're going to train and how you're going to do it with resources, since you start with nothing.

>>725735496
Plus with engage there's not really much incentive to replay because there's no routes. If the writing is gonna be simple you may as well at least give the player some more options with how they see the story so its not completely mind numbing the second go around.

>Fire Emblem
>post game
3HRTs really aren't beating the not-FE-fans allegations.

>>725734414
No, we know exactly who he is and why he's doing it. It's just really fucking stupid.

>be aspergers
>hate it when games end because I need to say goodbye to friends I made along the way
>want to write dumbass fanfiction to try and continue the magic
>keep looking back at writing when getting around to it and get dissatisfied with writing style and overabundance of dialogue
FE-loving writerbros, what's your tips for hobbyists?

>>725736957
> Plus with engage there's not really much incentive to replay because there's no routes. If the writing is gonna be simple you may as well at least give the player some more options with how they see the story so its not completely mind numbing the second go around.

>>725737223
> No, we know exactly who he is and why he's doing it. It's just really fucking stupid.

>>725737375
Try writing shorter fics so you don't have to go back and check it after leaving it for a while, helps to just put it out online so you can't just immediately change your mind and scrap it.

Even if its not perfect, a finished product is progress in your skills.

>>725732679
>It was 90% awakening/fates babies waifufagging
And how's a bad thing? It's not like the FE threads pre-Awakening had active discussion that discussed gameplay and the story.
>"Hey guys, how do I build my Ike?"
>"Have him be a STR and SPD monster, especially when he obtain Ragnell to easily kill enemies."
>"I see. Thanks!"
>Thread dies around 5-9 replies

Three Houses is one of the best FE game you can get fags like myself to play who generally dislike playing FE. Also I could be wrong (and most likely am due to not having much authority in this topic due to Three Houses being the only FE game I finished after bouncing off the series at least ten times over the course of 20 years) but the moment you make your mobile gacha game have all the warriors in it, releasing an anniversary game that has less than that it isn't surprising for it to sell less than stelar numbers.

>>725737495
Yeah I mean, one point in 3H's favor at least were that the waifufagging + "(X) side is the most morally right/practical!" arguments went a long way in making the threads last even years after the game came out.

>>725712353 (OP)
The art style is really, really bad. Both are honestly, but bland bad vs eye cancer bad is leagues different and that filtered people. The gameplay itself is great but holy shit is it ugly.

The Slithers did nothing wrong and should've won

>>725737794
You could really tell the new artist was a vtuber designer.

>>725712353 (OP)
Fire Emblem finally gaining a ton of fans and then immediately losing them all 2x in a row cracks me up

>>725737935
>release Engage
>people leave and say they want to go back to 3H
>announce DEI 3H
>same people hate it
You love to see it sometimes.

>>725712464
Fpbp

>>725737935
>gaining a ton of fans
3HRTs aren't FE fans though.

>>725738060
>announce DEI 3H
>same people hate it
You must spend too much time on 4channel because the majority of normies that came on at 3H definitely don't give a shit.

>>725712353 (OP)
Remember Stupid Dragon! and Berniebro?

>>725737375
First, think of what you want to write about. for example, Alfred's life after the game. Why would you want to write about it? What is it you like about Freddy? Us that as your basis.
Then think about what you know about the character. What would he do or say in the situation you put him in? This is the voice of the character. This is something that is familiar to most people reaing it so it's the most important. If you have a scene with Ferdinand being lazy and not wanting to clean his house organized then most people will see that that's not the same guy.
Also, do you want it to be character or world driven? This dictates what it is you're writing about.
But the final advice is to just write a lot. I suggest wirting short stories for yourself so you can see what kind of things you like writing about and how. For example, I found out that my humour isn't really universal but I'm really good at writing characters and their relationships with others and keeping it in line with canon.

>>725737495
I've been Eirikaposting for nearly two decades now.

>>725738242
I was the *S-Supports you* frogposter and I did that before I even played 3H. It was pottery, really.

>>725738242
Remember Disgusting?

>>725732709
I only ever finished my first run with Claude. Went for Dimitri second but that route was lame as hell so I quit forever.

>>725732709
I can't be the only one that saw Edelgard and instantly disliked her, right?

>>725738815
Yeah though admittedly I already got spoiled to some of her later story stuff so I knew she was a warmonger from minute 1

>>725737914
> You could really tell the new artist was a vtuber designer.

>>725737935
> Fire Emblem finally gaining a ton of fans and then immediately losing them all 2x in a row cracks me up

>>725712353 (OP)
Because I bought Three Houses but not Engage.

>>725738921
> Because I bought Three Houses but not Engage.

>>725739438
Do you even have any evidence that the guy you are harassing posts here?

>>725740236
> Do you even have any evidence that the guy you are harassing posts here?

>>725740236
Don't bother he's some mentally ill discord faggot.

>>725740579
> Don't bother he's some mentally ill discord faggot.

>>725741221
>thereheis.png

>>725712353 (OP)
i mean, just look at the mascot for engaged
it's like a parody of a character design
it also doesn't feel like an actual fire emblem game in and of itself and is more of a super smash bros "remember this guy?" kind of game

>>725740236
He's unironically schizophrenic. Of course he doesn't.

WTF JANNIES CLEAN IT UP

>>725741970
It's just the Fire Emblem scat spammer. Nothing new.

We need more Veyle

>>725738242
Remember Eating with Ingrid?

>>725741881
Sommie's actually adorable though, and the absolute failure of IS to try and capitalize on it with the realease of one plush toy released into the ether just goes to show a lack of confidence in their product.

Call me an Engaygie, but it's really the absolute lack of confidence in trying something new and immediately fleeing back to Sothisland and the same artist is what killed Weave for me, it's trading one series-centric-memberberries game for another game-centric-memberberries game, and that's so lame.

>>725741881
> i mean, just look at the mascot for engaged
>it's like a parody of a character design
>it also doesn't feel like an actual fire emblem game in and of itself and is more of a super smash bros "remember this guy?" kind of game

>>725741913
> He's unironically schizophrenic. Of course he doesn't.

>>725741970
> WTF JANNIES CLEAN IT UP

>>725742110
> It's just the Fire Emblem scat spammer. Nothing new.

>>725742151
SEXTER PITS

>>725738242
>Remember the obsessive retards who wouldn't talk about vidya?
Glad that they're gone.

>>725735496
>you have to play Engage like every Fire Emblem ever except the only other one I played
I hate NG+ zoomers so, so much

As a long time Fire Emblem fan, I didn't see much to get excited or hyped about it so I never bought it. The story seemed generic and the big gameplay enhancement they were selling was the ability to summon or equip protagonists from past games or whatever. I hate that derivative multiverse shit. Compare with Three Houses, which had marketing that had a compelling story, protagonists, and new features (I remember being really excited about gambits because they would make the game feel more like a large scale battle). Not all of that played out, but it got me to buy it on release.

>>725735496
Is this a bit? There are people who care about dogshit postgame and NG+ garbage in Fire Emblem?

3Hs ruined FE. The 3Hs only fans that talk so much shit are insufferable.

Why do you guys pretend 3Hs had a good story

>>725742994
Everyone wants to spite (you) personally. There is no other explanation.

>>725742994
Because they played one route (not that I blame them. The game is horrible to replay)

>>725742724
> As a long time Fire Emblem fan, I didn't see much to get excited or hyped about it so I never bought it. The story seemed generic and the big gameplay enhancement they were selling was the ability to summon or equip protagonists from past games or whatever. I hate that derivative multiverse shit. Compare with Three Houses, which had marketing that had a compelling story, protagonists, and new features (I remember being really excited about gambits because they would make the game feel more like a large scale battle). Not all of that played out, but it got me to buy it on release.


>>725743056
> Everyone wants to spite (you) personally. There is no other explanation.

>>725743136
Even with a single route, the story is utterly retarded. Hell, the writers couldn't even make a proper excuse to have their all important timeskip, so Byleth ends up falling off a cliff for 5 years.

Why can't modern Fire Emblem character designs compete with even a cheap Chinese knockoff?

>>725743136
Genuinely I think the only reason why 3H's writing gets any time of day is because the majority of people won't play the game long enough to notice the massive holes and contrivances in its plot
I remember going black eagles for my first route thinking they finally had some balls to have a story where everyone is morally gray. Then I played other routes and realized edelgard is just a retard and all of her justifications were made up on her route so players would feel better about choosing her, and worse still all of the plot holes that I thought were going to be resolved in other routes were either never touched upon or explained away in a long exposition dump.

>>725742508
I don't see you discussing gameplay, tranny.

>>725743136
>route I played had the characters I liked the best on a design and/or personality angle
>also happened to be the shortest route in the game as well as the series at large, possibly
>had to play the other three routes to get a more full experience with less characters I liked taking the screentime
>one of those routes was just an even more gay copy/paste of the Deer route without the assault on the mole people or cool final boss fight
>demanding a full four playthroughs at minimum for me to leave feeling like I got my money's worth
>mfw
Back in my day, we had a game that pulled that shit - it was called Megaman Battle Network 4, it sold the best of the series, it was rightfully mocked and ridiculed, and it mortally wounded the entire series to the point actual gems like 5 and 6 couldn't save it.
Fuck.

>>725743136
The biggest problem with doing multiple routes is that NG+ makes the early game take forever since your teacher level is so high and you get so many more actions per day.

>>725743548
I would prefer to discuss gameplay, but the story discussion isn't too bad either so that's fine for now.

Marriage with Marianne!

>>725732732
I am sad that I lost the video where some flat slut posted herself masturbating with a Tharja figurine.

>>725744405
Not counting DLC and Dancer, is Falcoknight secretly her best class?
>Access to both Soulblade and Frozen Lance to use her magic stat off either swords or lances instead of her dogshit spell list
>Class path to Falco buffs her speed to a respectable 50% and Darting Blow, while not gimping her mag too much. Can also get Fiendish blow pretty easily on the way
>Easy to pull off, since she has proficiencies in every relevant rank
>Can use her relic effectively thanks to hit and run tactics with her relic art
>Access to Lancefaire and OP 3H flight to solidify her into a niche

>>725745465
>Access to both Soulblade and Frozen Lance to use her magic stat off either swords or lances instead of her dogshit spell list
Non doubling, non effective damage 1 range weapon arts are ass compared to regular attack doubling outside of the early game. I'd rather have an extra physic user than whatever meagre offense this offers. Once she gets her relic she's a bit better but even then it's a glorified silver sword.

>>725746015
Forgot to mention a pretty important point in the Levin Sword access for her best 1-3 range weapon, so she does actually have pretty good ranged combat to go alongside her strong arts she uses to hit and run with
>I'd rather have an extra physic user than whatever meagre offense this offers
You really don't need this much healing in 3H in the first place, since you either blaze through maps or play super defensive. I'd rather have a unit who can help delete the roadblocks than yet another healer in a game where few units can traditionally tank in the first place.

The last good FE game, ironically, was Awakening. FE# killed any good will Atlus had with Fire Emblem fans. They doubled down on nu-FE with Fates and made it all about the romances and the gameplay was fucking trash as a result.

>>725747562
They're calling it the worst bait ever

>>725747743
What if it's just his unfiltered dogshit honest opinion? What then? I notice a lot of Awakeningfags who hate Fates and the rest of nu-FE played it one time a decade ago when they were a dumb kid and don't actually know much about it. You kind of have to be a fan to see the problems with it.

>>725746712
Fair enough, it's been so long I completely forgot how good forged Levin was.
>>725747562
>FE#
I'm still mad.

What "weird" classes do you think should be in mainline games?
Mainly talking stuff like dlc classes, but also just really uncommon stuff. Witch, Ballisitian, Bride, Enchanter, etc.

>>725748443
Summoner.

>>725748443
Enchanter is the coolest class Fire Emblem ever did, and it pisses me off that it's locked behind a gay little episodic DLC you have to complete each run. It's extremely broken so on the one hand I get it, but I wish they'd bring the concept back, only balanced this time.

>>725742724
I thought 3H looked terrible in its first trailer. That second trailer revealing the time skip hooked me in and made it clear they were taking things seriously.

>>725748680
And then they didn't and you got mole people ICBMs

>>725748827
FE's had nukes since 7, it's not really anything new.

>>725748443
Make a vampire class to sort of act like a proto-beast unit, that can't transform, but doesn't follow the weapon triangle. Is capable of using a weak ranged magic and powerful close melee attack capable of limited health drain on both ends, but the drawback is that if they're on a daylight map, and you leave them out in the open where the sunlight floods the room, they take 10HP of damage each turn and get reduced defense and strength debuffs in battle. Makes you aware of how to position them against the map features.

Representative vamp unit leader's a pretty and mature-looking ojou with a parasol and arrogant attitude but is a massive girlfailure when doing the support route.

>>725747562
The last good FE game, ironically, was Sacred Stones. Path of Radiance killed any good will Intelligent Systems had with Fire Emblem fans. They doubled down on Path of Radiance with Radiant Dawn and made it all about furry politics and the gameplay was fucking trash as a result.

>>725749234
So you just want Constance as a class?

>>725749335
trvthsvpernova

>>725712353 (OP)
>metroid at 3 million
Nice.

>>725747743
>>725748373
I started the series with Sacred Stones.

>>725749335
Path of Radiance is the best game and it's not even close.

>>725749234
Already been done exactly as you described in a romhack. Grow up and get an original idea.

>>725748827
It sounds extremely weird out of context but it worked in context due to the molemen being so strange.

>>725747562
The last good FE game, ironically, was Genealogy. Binding Blade killed any good will Intelligent Systems had with Fire Emblem fans. They doubled down on Binding Blade with Blazing Blade and made it all about Archanea memberberries and the gameplay was fucking trash as a result.

>>725749335
I love pretty much the entire series (except Rev and Gaiden) so I disagree, mostly because pre SD fes lacked the strategic rigour you get from H5 SD and lunatic versions of NM/Fates/Engage

>>725749643
>it worked in context
(lol

>>725747562
The last good FE game, ironically, was Mystery of the Emblem. Genealogy killed any good will Intelligent Systems had with Fire Emblem fans. They doubled down on Genealogy with Thracia and made it all about edgy shit that involves incest and the gameplay was fucking trash as a result.

>>725749723
I just wish it got a remake or at the very least an official translation with qol changes

>>725747562
The last good FE game, ironically, was the original FE. Gaiden killed any good will Intelligent Systems had with Fire Emblem fans. They doubled down on Gaiden with Mystery of the Emblem and made a pointless forced continuation of a good story and the gameplay was fucking trash as a result.

>>725750054
What "qol" does FE4 even need? I think it still plays fine.

>>725749805
The rapid escalation of the molemen having a techno Agartha explaining how they do all the crazy shit we've seen them do was an interesting reveal and explained Arianrhod. The reveal only existing in the only route where searching for the truth was the goal also worked.

>>725725935
The exact opposite is true.
Engage sold more in its first week than 3H because people were excited for more Fire Emblem, and then negative word of mouth killed sales momentum immediately.

>>725750335
>The reveal only existing in the only route where searching for the truth was the goal also worked.
But they just get off-screened in BL, don't they? How is that satisfying or well-written?

>>725750658
They're never dealt with in BL since the focus was on ending the war. Dimitri was single minded and didn't realize events were being manipulated at a level greater than Edelgard and the Empire. Thales gets killed in disguise but points to Edelgard as the true villain while he's dying. Losing Thales would be a setback but Agartha is still hidden and they probably have another Thales in a tube.

>>725712353 (OP)
They went full vtuber for several of the designs of Engage.

>>725745465
I can see a case for Falconknight, she becomes a slower but far more hard hitting Ingrid with that. But with DLC, dark flier hands down is her best class. She’s arguably the best one too. I know there’s and argument for Constance, but I find her kit better served by gremory.

>>725749335
you are absolutely right, SS was the last FE that tried to follow Kaga's vision (it failed but at least it tried). PoR is for furries and fags, there's no bigger red flag than liking that pile of garbage. Crazy how every game since has been either a remake or a disappointment (sometimes both).

>>725750230
Being able to make the game faster and small castle improvements like being able to promote in different castles not just the starting one

I can't believe you people never get tired of bringing up the same talking points over and over.

>>725752726
Which ones?

Post more Alear puffy pussy, please.

Edy thread.
Edy board.
Edy website.

3H had bad graphics but an interesting story and characters dynamics, if improved on thd gameplay of the previous games aswell as getting rid of thag cringe pair up system. It was a game you could take seriously with waifus as the cherry on top.

I literally rolled my eyes when I saw the Colgate character in first engage trailer. You could tell off that design alone that the game would be a massive step down from 3H

Edelgard's whipped back and lewd ass is pretty hot in that one pic

>>725753376
>f improved on thd gameplay of the previous games aswell as getting rid of thag cringe pair up system

>>725753376
This but unironically.

>>725753568
Fell for obvious bait award

>>725712353 (OP)
They managed to ruin their best designs with stuff like dude, food lmao nonsense. That should tell you why the game was received poorly.

>>725754354
Why was dude food never a problem until Chloe did it?

>>725754354
I have yet to see someone actually explain why Chloé is bad beyond buzzwords

>>725754562
She's not, but the initial first impression she has in every C-support goes into how she eats gross things as food.
Good luck finding the supports that touch on her family life, why she became a knight, or any hopes for the future.

>>725754354
Cute pegaslut.
Still won't play her game.

>>725753376
I like adjutants and battalions more than pair up. I don't like having to suck up half of my deployed units into other units every map. Adjutants being extra units you bring along for exp and small assists works better for what I enjoy about FE games.

>>725755120
>I like adjutants and battalions more than pair up
That just makes you a retarded monkey not even fit for sanitation work

>>725754894
>she eats gross things as food
The funny part is that it's all real dishes that she praises. Players, just like the characters in the game, fail to recognize her gastronomical genius.

>>725755254
>no argument
He won, you lost.

>>725753568
Man samsung auto correct might be the worst thing ever why did it auto correct 3H to if and not fix thd or thag?

>>725754562
She hasn't had sex with me yet

>>725754489
Because we got better.

>>725755254
Incredibly persuasive. Good conversation.
>>725755350
If you make that typo often enough it thinks you're doing it on purpose.

>>725755254
bwhahaahahhaha

>>725755439
>cuts off her hair
Hard pass.
Notice how most of her art is from her Academy phase.

>>725754354
>Well designed Engage characters are ruined by something
Many such cases. Look at Diamant, he looked like he could’ve been the protagonist. Except they made him one of the worst units in the game.

>>725755790
>one of the worst units in the game
You fags are so dramatic. Diamant pals around with the likes of Lapis as "average" in the grand scheme of Engage units.

>>725754489
Because the entire game was written just as poorly.

Here's my tier list. Played everything in the series. I'll probably start playing the kaga saga games next year as well.

>>725755439
Ingrides DUDE FOOD got mostly sidelined in favor of her hate for Duscurs, or diggers as she likes to call them

Engage detractors are the same people who'd unironically argue that the entire game takes place over a couple of days.

>>725754489
Most people actually don't really like Ilyana, especially people who play Heroes since she shows up pretty often there and all she does is talk about how she's hungry and how she's going to pass out from hunger.

>>725756305
Who are you quoting?

>>725756232
That she barely brings up

>>725742994
because people liked it

>>725756156
>Me when I generate random numbers

>>725756360
Some months back, /vfeg/ had a retarded argument over some guy claiming that Engage took place over a few days.

>>725755919
>game has 42 units
>can only deploy 14 at endgame
"Average" means he's around 21st.
Read as: he's not on the fucking team.

>>725756156
I don't understand why people place FE4 so high. The map design is awful and the gameplay is pretty much "Throw Sigurd/Seliph at everything to instantly win".

>>725712353 (OP)
For an anniversary game it does a pretty fucking bad job at celebrating the franchise. I originally thought it was going to be a giant crossover event where we get to go on adventures with all the lords from the past games like in Warriors. But no, all previous protagonists are just force ghosts who are just copies the actual protagonists, and they only serve as stat boosters and skill dispensers with all of about five lines each. Like who thought that was a good idea?

>>725756395
Yeah, but it lives rentfree in the perception the fanbase has of her
People remember her more as "that racist pega bitch" rather than "that hungry pegknight"

>>725756447
It's my honest opinion, here's a screenshot of my PoR post-ending results with Marcia.

>>725756584
You calles him one of the worst units in the game, anon. He clearly isn't.

>>725756156
I love everything above D and I can still play the D ranks and enjoy them.

>>725755790
>red hair
>protagonist
>worst unit
>they start him with the Roy emblem
Hey, they tried to warn you at least.

>>725756684
Not my post, retard.

>>725756670
Your honest opinion is retarded and not internally consistent.

>>725756695
I don't know if Conq and TH in S tier or Tellius in A tier is the bigger bait

>>725756657
>lives rent free
Not really? Most people kind of just gloss over Ingrid desu.

>>725756584
That has to be one of the dumbest arguments that I've ever seen. I'm impressed.

>>725756609
You can play a lot of FE games like that. I've seen people do the "pick one or two of the best units in the game, give them everything, and then destroy the game".
But honestly, I didn't do that. I used my infantry units, I fell for surprise stuff and had to scramble to get to the objectives in time, I didn't cheese or spam the arena with saves and stuff, so I ended up enjoying it a lot. The story and characters are really good too, Altena is one of my favorites of the entire series.

>>725756695
Very nice, I really really love Thracia, it's such an awesome game.

>>725732450
Eh, it's a different time. Back then, story was very constrained by the limited tech. Doom is also an FPS and not an RPG, so there's different expectations.
>>725756609
People like the story/tone/a few of the characters and that's it. The FE fanbase has always in general placed those above 'balance' or 'difficulty'.

>>725756695
>Tear Ring Saga in A
My dude. Only thing I really disagree with is 3H in S, but I ain't gonna make a stink about it.

>>725756609
Actually optimizing FE4 and just playing it as a solo leads to two different experiences.

>>725756813
I think they're some of the best at what they do and what they do is enjoyable. FE5 is the best at being a full package FE game.

shartcia on S should be another red flag

>>725756895
>People like the story/tone/a few of the characters and that's it.
So it's basically a Drakengard/Nier scenario where people prefer the writing over decent gameplay. That kinda sucks.

>>725757029
People like the idea of Thracia more than actually playing it I've noticed

>>725732450
In my opinion, it's not that bad story and bad characters can't be carried by good gameplay, you see people putting Conquest high up in tier lists all the time.
It's just that there are a lot of factors to consider, and some people blow some aspects of the games way out of proportion.
For example, I think 3H's gameplay is "good", and I think Engage's gameplay is "excellent". If you then add the story and characters into the equation, 3H ends up scoring higher, because its gameplay is good enough and the rest is really good, but engage's story and characters are horrendous so they drag down the final score a lot more.

>3hrt gameplay is good
how many times you spammed curved shot faggot?

>>725757162
>I think 3H's gameplay is "good"
Same bro I love chores and broken weapon grinding on reused maps

Thracia won its relay while GBAbies were too busy cheating in FE7 and FE8. Makes the noggin start joggin!

I still haven't played Thracia. What's even so good about it?

>>725757310
Thracia had like 2 players past the early game

Uh oh, melty!

>>725756959
By "optimizing" I assume you actually mean wasting hours of your life rigging arena sessions for dancers and mages, spamming staves, and setting up kills for thieves and Arden to get the exp rank, which is all completely tedious and mindless and the only people that think it's good don't actually play the game. The game is most easily beaten by running at everything with Sigurd/Seliph, a dancer, and a Master Knight with the Rescue Staff, everyone else is borderline worthless.

>>725757282
What broken weapon grinding? Grinding breaks every game.

Please, I can't take anymore of these circular arguments. You are people with differing tastes and different levels of tolerance on both gameplay and story. You're not going to agree. Just spare us the drivel and talk about something interesting.

>>725757162
3H's story is carried by the aesthetics. When you actually start scrutinizing it, I find that it holds up worse than Engage and many others.

>>725757115
I can't speak for others, but I legitimately adored Thracia, it's really so fun to spam staves and the maps are so good. Best defend maps in the series.

>>725757271
>>725757282
You don't have to play the games in the least fun way possible, you know.

>>725757426
Severa cute tits.

>>725757479
You actually do on maddening, hard-baby

>>725757410
Lol lmao even

>>725757414
I assume they mean equipping a broken weapon and standing in place while weak enemies do no damage to you so you can build up Mastery of a class and get its skill. I have to agree that I much prefer Thracia and the Tellius games that have skills as usable items you can earn by actually playing the game instead.

>>725712676
Why does Will Smith have boobs?

3H has a good story because everyone has last names and terms like Insurrection of the Seven are constantly brought up, making things feel important

>>725757479
>You don't have to play the games in the least fun way possible, you know.
Sadly that's the way to pass early game and deal with the fliers spam you troglodyte.

>>725757434
It's an ocean with the depth of a puddle. It looks super deep and interesting but once you start looking into it you realize how shallow it is.
LIke to this day I have no clue how Edelgards meritocracy is actually supposed to function. The game just goes "haha she makes meritocracy and everythings perfect :D" when forcefully improving the system is supposed to ber her whole deal. Yet I don't even know if her new system is an improvement at all

>>725757651
And every conversation isn't played for laughs.

>>725757426
What about FEE3? Any cool stuff you guys are looking forward to?
I just started a file on the new (I think it's new? It got a trailer in FEE3) FE8 self-randomizer. It's really fun but I deeply regret setting the stat caps to random as well, since I didn't realize that large caps don't really matter and small caps completely fuck units over.

Engaygie melting down hours

>>725757651
>everyone has last names
superfluous
>insurrection of the seven is constantly brought up
Yes, 3H draws reference to a lot of events but tends to not really do anything with them or if it does, 3H has a hard time deciding how it actually wants to portray it in the narrative.

>>725757619
It honestly baffles me we haven't got Tellius Bonus exp back in any new FEs. Gives incentive to play the objective well and can be used to bring some units up to speed without stupid grinding.

>>725757889
I think he was being facetious, anon

>>725757752
Not to mention how whatever her vision of one would be, it wouldn't really change anything if she's in charge, as i remember discussing with a few people years ago, this picture was a nice post that someone else made about it.

>>725757479
>You don't have to play the games in the least fun way possible, you know.
People can't fathom not being autistic and grinding to 20/20 in the Tower of Valni.

>>725757717
>>725757587
False. I played through maddening and I didn't even do auxiliary battles, much less grind with broken weapons.

>>725757790
I haven't played the self-randomizer since last year, what the fuck is this option, people want this in FE?

>>725758015
The point is grinding in FE8 is a waste of time, while grinding in 3H maddening is strictly required

>>725757945
I also like the base system in Tellius and the DS games. It feels like you have a break between maps to talk to characters and buy stuff without being incredibly intrusive and drawn out, with insane feature bloat like cooking and shit like that.

>>725757095
>Drakengard/Nier scenario
Try basically every RPG-derived fanbase under the stars.
>>725757162
I think Fates gets put higher since people like at least some of the cast and the setting/set-up has some neat ideas.

>>725758149
The guy who made that self-randomizer basically makes "engine hacks" or something of the sort, so he just crammed everything into the rom. I don't like the timed hits thing so I just turned it off on the initial settings.

>using the most shameless meta mage and two bows as a gotcha.
Not helping your case retard

>>725757162
>engage's story and characters are horrendous
Engage has an amazing cast howsoever.

>>725758424
>using Marcus in HHM? PSSHAW you didn't play it

>>725758163
This, too many basic features are locked behind grinding in 3h

Engaygies have an inferiority complex and it show.

>>725712353 (OP)
>Make Fire Emblem for Vtubers (Fire Emblem Engage)
>game flopped
Simple as that

>>725758424
>using the golden deer cast in a golden deer playthrough

What the fuck?????

>>725754562
She's not interesting. There, no buzzwords.

>>725758660
It's clearly designed for it.

>maddening
Who cares. Hard is the true difficulty. Every thing else is just for retards or try hards.

>>725757991
>>725757752
Most of the flaws that are brought up in that image are also present in other forms of leadership.
What Edelgard wants to achieve and how 3H frames it as written are two completely different things. Its likely that Edelgard is trying to bridge Fodlan from feudalism into a more modern setting which is why Ferdinand/Manuela start talking about education/schooling/etc and the implementation of Hanneman's thing that devalues crests.
However, that kind of society would not happen as fast as Edelgard wants it. She'd have to initially create a transition government using qualified people from the old regime to slowly and steadily implement these reforms then handover to subsequent generations. (See, why Ferdinand and the others still get positions by virtue of them already being trained for leadership)

tldr, I get what writers are trying to get Edelgard to do but how its actually written is way off the real goal.

>>725758715
Don't care. That's a fucking copout it's a shit difficulty setting and fuck NG+ mechanics in general

>>725758721
What's wrong sis too scared of those min maxed falconknights and chapter 13?

>>725758746
pretty much yeah, deciding to make her a route late into development was a mistake.

>>725758647
>Uhh she's le bad because... she's le bad!
Nice explanation there, retard

Why are FEclones so uncommon despite FE being the most popular SRPG?

>>725712353 (OP)
Because 3H's success came from getting the Persona audience interested in the game, who then hated that the next game wasn't a persona game. Look at the fucking fanbase for 3H, it's infested with the fucking cringe ass modern persona tumblrite bullshit.

>>725758982
>late into development
The late into development route was Golden Deer. I just dont think they bothered to polish the BE Routes after they worked on the rest of 3H.

>>725759091
>uncommon
Untrue. Most FEclones are dogshit.

>>725759091
There have been quite a few releasing lately, actually. Most of them are usually pretty ugly and cheap, but I can't speak for their quality since I haven't played any. I usually play romhacks to get my FE fix.

>>725759146
It's basically just the same fanbase Awakening had, just replace the eugenics with route arguments.

>>725759324
Nah, it's worse. FAR worse.

>>725757382
Tone/aesthetics, story/characters, gameplay - kinda has everything going for it, instead of just one or two things. Obviously it's a taste thing but that's how I feel. I like the dark moody atmosphere and graphics and the more grounded characters and story, while the gameplay is some of the most inventive in the series and wasn't really matched until Conquest, in my opinion. Balance is top notch with a classic low-numbers approach to stats and enemy strength, and you always have a way to solve a problem with what you already have.
It is a bit of a mean game sometimes with a lot of hidden info and arcane shit in it but who cares, just guidefag it like I know you want to. Or accept you're gonna get btfo on a blind purist run. It's a game that gets better on replays but I still keep WoD open to remember things. If that's a dealbreaker, whatevs. I play Mystery Dungeon and Etrian Odyssey games so I'm used to wikifagging during a playthrough.

>>725759091
I like SMT Devil Survivors. To be totally frank, I think very few Fire Emblem games have objectively good gameplay, looking at it from an unbiased outsider's perspective. It sticks around through notoriety and things like its characters. I think most companies would rather just make more traditional JRPGs.

Engagekeks can vomit their cope all they want but at the end of the day numbers don't lie. Engage is shit, and the only thing people will remember about it, is the godawful MC

>>725759569
Adding onto this anon, Mekkah's video that tells you about the obscure shit in Thracia is pretty decent. It gives you hints so you don't miss the obscure stuff without being an actual in-depth guide, and is also spoiler-free.

>decided to play FE1 because I've never touched it before
>Enjoying it more than either 3H or Engage
It's so over for me, I might as well skip FW at this rate.

>>725758994
Pretty much. She's self-evidently boring. Bitch, you eat eels. You wouldn't want to know a person like Chloe. She's just hot. But boring.
I'm not into the "backstory checklist theory" of characterization, where characters are awarded points for having "depth" tucked away in the Z-support with Sleepy Axefag McQuirksen. If a character fails to be entertaining on impression, they're a bad character.

>>725722173
This is correct but it’s worth mentioning Engage’s dialogue is still shit even when not censored.

>xenonigger trying to start shit
I hear your dogshit demake still didn't sell a million.

>>725725632
Neither. Play Path of Radiance on Nintendo Plus GameCube or just emulate it.

>>725760068
This was the same for Fates. People were up in arms about its localization but it was dogshit even in the fan translation.

>>725725632
Start with Fire Emblem on GBA NSO.

>>725760185
I like the localization solely because Iago is a more appropriate Shakespeare reference for that character than Macbeth, the story blows no matter how you translate it.

For me it's Shamir

>Answering a post from more than 12 hours
Totally organic and natural.

>>725760017
>S-she eats eel
Considering that she ate eel by accident in that support, it seems like you didn't pay enough attention to the script nor to her character to do an analysis. If anything, her support with Framme has worldbuilding on the effects of the war for local buisnesses, shows how openminded and positive she is even when getting something completely unexpected as well as elaborating on how she does have good taste in food through Framme's second opinion.

>>725760017
>If a character fails to be entertaining on impression, they're a bad character.
i agree that there are almost no good fire emblem characters across the entire series

>>725761237
>explains I don't like character checklists
>gives me a character checklist
>>725761329
I would not go that far, but yes, support writing is dragging the games down hard. Chloe is just a particularly noticeable victim of it.

>>725760017
>framme poster is too stupid to read what he's complaining about

>>725761237
Not that anon but I don't think anyone that likes Engage pays attention to the script, let alone people who dislike it.
You are either the one in a million that actually cares about it's script, or you are Speedwinghere, in that case you are a faggot e-celeb that needs to get raped by a muslim and knifed by a nigger.

>>725760347
A story being "bad" doesnt mean that you should accept whatever arbitrary shit the localizers peddle. Because they can make stuff worse than it actually is.

>>725761597
>i dont pay attention to it, so that means that its okay for me to just make up shit

Hi everybuddy, I'm teh AssASSin of D00m (and silly smiles :)
I'm very QUIRKY and I say cuh-RAZY things (saya! heya!) but actually deep down I have a dark side and a dark past >:((( RAWR
Read through 10,000 lines of throwaway text to find out that my real name isn't actually Yoshimitsu, it's actually Chestnut, and I'm secretly the runaway princess of the nation of Bubia.
but don't tell anyone, it's a secret

>>725761627
Yeah like how the Thracia fan translation tries to make all the Fiana Freeblades sound rugged and rural but the translation was done by pasty dweebs so it comes off incredibly cringe.

>>725761728
>think game and characters are boring
>say they are boring
>this is making stuff up
there are no interesting games or characters, let not kid ourselves here.

>>725761860
Okay but enough talking about three houses.

>Adult War Chronicle
>The New Awakening
Gee, I don't know

>>725712353 (OP)
Engaged felt like a step backwards in a lot of ways.

>>725761860
this except a wyvern rider who's sleepy

>>725761597
>NOOO YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE SCRIPT AND CALL OUT A PARROTED TALKING POINT
(lol

>>725761981
Backwards from what? The process of becoming Persona?

>>725761936
Only on 4chan will someone claim "I didnt pay attention to the script" and somehow still be taken seriously for an argument about its quality.

>>725759324
>but it was dogshit even in the fan translation.
What fan translation? Last time I checked, the FE IF translation is still pretty much incomplete.

>>725761860
How is that any different from Marianne/Bernie/Lysithea

So are we gameplay chads or story chads on this website?
I'm getting mixed messages.

>>725762243
You knew I wasn't talking about them, that's how it's different

>>725762132
Backwards from the dark age that started with Awakening. We're finally healing, maybe.

>>725760474
How can you say you like this character when you constantly spam shitskin trash that doesn't even look like her?

>>725762150
Half of the most popular boards are just filled with blatant fake images and obvious bait twitter posts disingenuously made to piss people off. But they get hundreds of replies because people have learned a few parroted catchphrases that make them feel like they fit in and they want to post them in response to try to get attention so they feel less like total losers. They're like trained monkeys.

>>725762361
We're whatever pisses off what the poster we're replying to likes. All that matters on nu-/v/ is making other anons mad now.

>>725762361
I don't know about any "we", I have my own personal opinion on stuff, and it varies by game. Some games have little to no story and I love them (Romancing SaGa 2 Remake, The Genius of Sappheiros), others have a horrendous story and I still love them (Conquest), and others have pretty bad gameplay but good story and I also love them (Ouroboros).

>>725762854
She has a cute support with Chloé

What is /v/s final verdict on dragons?

>>725762361
I played Danganronpa 1 and 13 Sentinels and realized I CAN enjoy story in a video game (don't @ me). I just don't like most FE stories, they're like a sleeping aid. Except Jugdral.

>>725763071
kys

>>725763071
They're the most interesting dragons in the series followed closely by Tellius.

>>725763071
Myrrh still best

Lissa

>>725760017
You know you can still like characters despite their personality and how bland they might be in the game? Heck, a lot of people like FE characters from the Kaga games and those barely have any dialogue or personality.

>>725764058
I didn't say otherwise

>>725729582
Ippei cant draw fire emblem woman, stop the audible jerk-off session you homosapien.

>>725764058
The more dialogue a shallow character has the worse they usually are.

>>725764058
True but I bet you dollars to donuts if I said "I don't like Bord because he's boring" you wouldn't have people pretend to care about the writing of FE1 and seethe about my opinion.

>>725764315
I've never got the impression that he even knows how to design characters. What characters has he designed? Anons think pretty art must be all it takes to make an original design. His art is also honestly kinda int

>The character is shallow!
>The proof? I wouldn't know, I didn't bother reading the script
kek

>>725764486
Bord has no script attributed to him, so it's self evident. When a character has a script though, it's a basic expectation that you elaborate on why said character is boring based on what's written.

you niggas have the same conversations every single thread

>>725762465
NTA but this is fucking insane to hear when Awakening saved the series from joining the grave with F-Zero, Golden Sun, Wave Race, Custom Robo, Punch-Out, and eventually Star Fox. Fire Emblem would literally be nothing but "that literal who series for some reason has playable characters in Smash Bros" and most people here wouldn't even be interested in the franchise at all.

Does Chloe have any fans who like her personality and not that she's a basic pegaslut?

>>725766006
I like her huge breasts does that count

>>725765881
If fe was multiplatform these paid threads wouldn't even exist

>>725766350
If it was multiplatform, it would be either be some Atelier style shovelware or it wouldn't exist. Nintendo is the only publisher that subsidizes games like FE.

>>725765697
Asking someone to read 10 plus support chains just to not find a character boring when they already don't care about them is asking a tad much.
Lord knows I can't get people to read Makalov's supports to make a judgement call on him, and he only has three, let alone trying to convince others that hey Alfred is kinda a neat character once you read half of his shit.

>>725766497
It didn't used to be subsidized until Engayge flopped so hard it nearly killed the franchise.

>>725766629
>it nearly killed the franchise
That never happened, take your meds.

>>725766629
>source: your obese pimple-infested ass

>>725766732
>>725766725
keep crying, gaygies
Engayge is the Concord of Nintendo

>>725766629
The Tellius games nearly killed the franchise though

>>725763071
Stupid, the lot of them.

real mental illness hours

>>725766859
The Gamecube nearly killed the franchise.

>>725763534
Lissa doesn't have a crest, retard.
That's her grand daughter, the legitimate heir to the throne of Ylisse.

>>725766919
Radiant Dawn wasn't on the GameCube.

>>725760068
Not any shittier than TiredHouse. At least I don't have to contend with fagsona 3 wannabe in Engage or the absolute pointless garbage that only serves to pander ADHD like answering stupid letters about lovestruck idiots. Such cringe was probably to leddit taste, but not me.

>>725767154
Radiant Dawn was a direct sequel to a game no one played because it was on the Gamecube.

>>725767154
This. Radiant Dawn was on a successful console like the Wii and it flopped bigly.
The console is not important on whether an FE game is successful or not.
Like in the most recent case: Three Houses was a huge success because it was a fantastic game, and Engayge flopped because it was dogshit. All on the same console. See?

>>725766507
I just expect them to know basic facts about the character and their supports, which is a basic expectation if you want to judge them so that there's at least grounds for discussion. If they don't bother doing even that much, then I'll rightfully dismiss the retarded fanfic takes they spout.

I am once again asking for puffy Alear pussy.

>>725767482
what would count as a basic fact about a character, what you see in their introduction, or stuff that's hidden away in supports and other optional dialogue things?
Someone mentioned DR1 earlier and that reminds me that one of Leon's character traits, that is only something you really get to discover by spending free time with him, is that he doesn't really give a single shit about his baseball talent and would rather focus on something he's not talented at, like music, because it'd be a challenge, and it'd impress women, It's a small part of why I have a soft spot for Leon.
I wouldn't call that a basic fact about him since it never pops up before he's executed in the main story, but I don't think I'd be able to blame someone for thinking he's nothing more than a one dimensional jock and consider him boring, you get what I mean?

>>725766006
I like her, I find her story of escaping her golden cage to seek out adventure endearing. Her emotionally mature character also help her stand out as a lovely person in her supports.

>>725767482
Most people read enough of Chloe's shitty meme food supports and her one dyke support with Merrin and the few fairy tale centric supports she has to be able to make a conclusive statement on her writing quality. I hate this nigger ass shit you people do, of demanding PhD level textual familiarity with the source material, like this trash garbage is Shakespeare or something. 3Hfags do it too, it's pretty annoying. People are good at sussing out good/bad on a vibes level.

>>725767482
If a player doesn't have a drive to read more about a character that's a pretty bad sign.

Fire Emblem should adopt Unicorn Overlord's support system. Everyone can support everyone, but only a select few pairings have actual conversations and endings.