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Anonymous No.725712536 [Report] >>725712758 >>725713213 >>725713415 >>725716315 >>725716953 >>725717886 >>725719313 >>725722035 >>725722158 >>725722465 >>725725515 >>725726483 >>725728417 >>725729013 >>725729175 >>725732317 >>725734684 >>725735175 >>725736298 >>725736393 >>725737605 >>725738697 >>725740515 >>725742657 >>725746023 >>725752323 >>725752547
Qrd on the situation?
Anonymous No.725712605 [Report] >>725712843 >>725714709 >>725742890
To redeem my waifu's honor there is only one solution:
I must fuck the femboy in front of my waifu!
Anonymous No.725712758 [Report] >>725712843 >>725714709 >>725742890
>>725712536 (OP)
I add this little fagboy to my harem but I fuck him in the ass (not gayly) to make sure he knows his place is beneath me. He can fuck my waifus on occasion but if he gets uppity the cock cage is coming out.
Anonymous No.725712843 [Report] >>725714229 >>725728331
>>725712605
>>725712758
You are gay
Anonymous No.725712967 [Report]
>still no explanation
???
Anonymous No.725713213 [Report] >>725713307 >>725713326 >>725713349 >>725713670 >>725716739 >>725717384 >>725719038 >>725724902 >>725733098 >>725733487 >>725733847 >>725745429 >>725749091
>>725712536 (OP)
In very short, the behind-the-scenes drama with the numerous writers of this game caused heavy rewrites, making the story unfocused shit.
One of the problems with the writing is the the protag is a passive, meandering non-entity, only ever "doing" stuff when the plot needs to advance.
This character, Owen, by all accounts is just a nice guy. But the shitty writing caused him to have more way more interesting stuff happen to him than the protag. Add to this the fact that he had some interactions with some of the girls that were pro-active, unlike any of those with the protagonist, and there you go.
Some people think its deliberate sabotage by feminist writers (feminism is a completely different beast in south korea), and we got the current shitshow. I think there is some merit to at least some scenes being written at least to deliberately rile people up, because the alternative is laughably oblivious.
Now they are rewriting the story from scratch.
Anonymous No.725713307 [Report] >>725747808
>>725713213
Wrong picture, that is the deboonking follow up. This is one of the scenes that I think is pretty on the nose with its intent.
Anonymous No.725713326 [Report] >>725713448 >>725714409 >>725715317 >>725717129 >>725725016 >>725726258 >>725729243 >>725734197 >>725737210 >>725738189 >>725749091 >>725749313 >>725751246
>>725713213
why does this kind of insane drama seem to only happen with gacha games?
Anonymous No.725713349 [Report]
>>725713213
Get woke, go broke
Anonymous No.725713415 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HE GETS MORE ATTENTION THAN ME, THE PROTAGONIST
Anonymous No.725713448 [Report] >>725717129
>>725713326
Gachapigs are both mentally ill and borderline retarded
Anonymous No.725713670 [Report] >>725713904 >>725713987 >>725714145 >>725714205 >>725717339 >>725721516 >>725721664 >>725721687 >>725740214 >>725743630
>>725713213
>just a normal nice guy that got hated because he interacts with his friends and is not a self insert
Isn't that just normal writing? Why are people getting mad from this
Anonymous No.725713904 [Report] >>725714010 >>725717129
>>725713670
>male character interacts with female characters in any way, shape or form
That's getting cucked as far as your average gacha player is concerned
Anonymous No.725713987 [Report]
>>725713670
It's purityfags. They existed before gacha too, tldr if another male exists it's NTR. Because it just is, okay? If she's seen another male she's used goods, that's how it works.
Anonymous No.725714010 [Report] >>725714185
>>725713904
I thought the dude was actively trying to cuck you or something but the guy as far as I've seen is just a dude? Not even a sexual dude, he could be gay or bi and I wouldnt even notice.
Anonymous No.725714145 [Report] >>725714213
>>725713670
Of the two offending scenes that people are mad at, the first one was when Owen got possessed by a demon or something, and when he got un-possessed, every girl in the room was actively worried about him, despite the protag being injured in the same scene. I dont remember if none of the girls cared about that or not, havent read that far.
The other scene was that one of the girls was injured (I think), and Owen ran up to her and grabbed her had to escort her to safety. Needless to say the protag did not have anything as proactive as that.
Anonymous No.725714185 [Report]
>>725714010
afaik he's a cute boy and was also designed to be appealing to the player. Well, players that like dudes anyway. Like Astolfo I guess. I thought he looked pretty cute.
Anonymous No.725714205 [Report] >>725717339
>>725713670
>ignoring the part where the anon specifically mentions that he's hated because of how useless the MC is in comparison to this random dude
If the MC wasn't so pathetic then people wouldn't have a problem with this dude. Well, ok no there would be people who have a problem with him, but it wouldn't be a massive drama like this
Anonymous No.725714213 [Report] >>725714439
>>725714145
*grabbed her hand, which is the big deal here.
Anonymous No.725714229 [Report]
>>725712843
it's gayer to NOT fuck him in the ass in this scenario
Anonymous No.725714262 [Report] >>725714485
I dunno, the whole thing felt like an astroturf to me.
Anonymous No.725714409 [Report]
>>725713326
Asians are hooked on cucking so they have to make up some when there's none.
Anonymous No.725714439 [Report] >>725714549
>>725714213
In a non romantic situation though, I suppose? Thats shipfag territory of stretching. Jesus.
Anonymous No.725714485 [Report]
>>725714262
I do wonder if this happens, like these games purposely write "bait" into the game then falseflag outrage to ignite a genuine meltdown, just for exposure
There's 99999 of these games so they have to grab attention somehow
Anonymous No.725714549 [Report]
>>725714439
Well again, she was injured/in danger, he ran up to her and grabbed her hand, and got her to safety in a pro-active manner. People really just want this stuff for the protagonist.
Anonymous No.725714557 [Report]
Imagine the moans this little girly twink would make as you pound his ass
Anonymous No.725714709 [Report] >>725715918
>>725712605
>>725712758
>wanting your dick covered in shit

being sucked off would be enough since you won't get parasites that way right?
Anonymous No.725715119 [Report] >>725715445
What game
Anonymous No.725715317 [Report] >>725740136
>>725713326
Korea is a really, really fucked place. Think of the most fucked up shit you have seen where you live, now double it, triple it, and just for good measure double it again. That might approach korea. It's a really strange land that seems like it ought not to be real but it is.
Anonymous No.725715445 [Report]
>>725715119
Chaos Zero Nightmare
It's gacha slay the spire with darkest dungeon's stress mechanics
Anonymous No.725715559 [Report] >>725715708
>make Owen the MC
Boom. Problem solved. Why is this a problem again?
Anonymous No.725715708 [Report] >>725715827
>>725715559
I don't want to be a shota. I want to be a cool ojisan. Make more ojisan MCs.
Anonymous No.725715827 [Report] >>725716147
>>725715708
Why are old people so uncommon in games anyways? Everyone's a teen or a young adult.
Anonymous No.725715918 [Report]
>>725714709
>right?
monkeypox
Anonymous No.725716147 [Report]
>>725715827
To put it simply? Old men don't sell. They sell a bit more now that your primary audience is getting older but at the end of the day most people want to play a late teens/early 20s MC.
Anonymous No.725716315 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
The translation of the cards is so fucking bad. I dropped it when I realized "Dark Mist" and "Dark Cloud" are the same thing.
Anonymous No.725716739 [Report] >>725716908 >>725717257 >>725717340 >>725717428 >>725717783
>>725713213
>feminism is a completely different beast in south korea
Maybe to some extent. Like having a secret cabal of artists across multiple companies to sneak in anti-male insults into their artwork is crazy fucked up, but nothing else they do would raise any eyebrows in the west.

Look at that "I would be safer with a bear, and if you're offended by that, you 'don't understand women'" shtick from last year. Nobody would bat an eye at a feminist group that encouraged all its members to abort any male babies, you hear rhetoric like that in the West all the time, it's no different from "All PiV sex is rape!".

The biggest difference, imo, is that Korean men still push back against it, and reject the idea that games with them as the target audience should be ruined at the whims of women who hate them. Western men would shame, hate and belittle anyone who tried push back against any form of feminism these days.
Anonymous No.725716908 [Report]
>>725716739
Didn't Koreans sent a bomb over a character wearing normal clothes instead of a bikini in a summer skin
Anonymous No.725716953 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
reid?
Anonymous No.725717129 [Report] >>725717881 >>725734356
>>725713326
>>725713448
>>725713904
Because gatcha are pretty much the last gaming space that does still shamelessly and openly appeal to men, and sell them a fantasy.

What they do used to be completely normal, that used to be the baseline. Go back to the old RPGs line BG2 or PST, multiple love interests and all were straight women. Farming games like RF or HM, male character and love interests were women. Action adventure games same stuff.

Now, the only genres that almost exclusively target guys are sexless games like strategy or boomshoot ones. RPGs and anything slightly comfy targets either women or goes 4quadrant, and there's very little to nothing that simply has any interest in selling guys a fantasy like gatcha does.

The rest of the industry left the market open and gatcha happily took residence in the niche. You can see the same thing with how Isekai grew out of the dissatisfaction with harem-manga always being a fake out into a solo girl ending.
Anonymous No.725717257 [Report] >>725734948 >>725739938
>>725716739
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say the feminism thing is a red herring.
It's just classic otaku stuff, otaku pay out the ass for low quality products but in return they expect heavy pandering and fanservice. Whether their demands are making it less ecchi or making it more ecchi is irrelevant, the fact that a feminist might be opposed to what they're asking for is mostly coincidental. The eroge market moved over to gacha and it's the same audience, these are the same people that were cutting disks in half over NTR and mailing it to the devs in the 90s. But also the same people that would buy a fandisk for $80 in 2005 money if you pandered well.

That's the entire business model, fans want to be pandered to, you pander to them, they pay you inordinate amounts of money in return. If the pandering happens to be "remove the thing that reminds me my penis is small" so be it, that's the genre you chose to be in I guess.
Anonymous No.725717339 [Report]
>>725713670
>>725714205
This. There's multiple male MCs in Girls Frontline and they're all widely beloved. Nobody cares about them existing because

>The MC is proactive and forthright, taking an active role in everything
>The game never ships and of the girls with any of them

The sequel forgot those rules for a time and found themselves in some drama as a result. They back-pedalled, fixed it and haven't let their eyes off the ball ever since.
Anonymous No.725717340 [Report] >>725717570
>>725716739
You don't know half shit, the feminist are literal cultist and men are psychos, south korea is the unhappies place on earth. Is literally a war of sexes because everyone hates everyone.
Anonymous No.725717384 [Report]
>>725713213
>It's just Raymond 2.0
Why do they keep doing this
Anonymous No.725717428 [Report]
>>725716739
>tranny frontline
Anonymous No.725717570 [Report] >>725735095
>>725717340
but they banned porn
Should be woman paradise there
Damn does that mean feminism doesn't work?
Anonymous No.725717783 [Report] >>725740307
>>725716739
>a secret cabal of artists across multiple companies
If it exists, its not a cabal any more than posting memefrogs is a cabal; at best it's a stale meme that managed to miraculously troll a bunch of overly sensitive autists. It's the standard conspiracy theory pipeline. Freak the fuck out over mundane thing, people respond not because the thing is evidence of a shadowy cabal but because its easier than dealing with people freaking the fuck out, at which point conspiracy theorists take this as "evidence" that they were right all along, because why would companies ever panic about people freaking out online and throw some contractor under the bus if it makes bad press go away? Of course, then you get second wave grift trolling, where the actual radical feminists now invoke it solely because its proven to make the conspiracy theorists jump like vampires being confronted with a cross, which only further entrenches the conspiracy.
Anonymous No.725717881 [Report] >>725718463
>>725717129
The issue is that unlike its predecessors gacha embraced the most debased form of idol purity worship and by enabling it caused a destructive spiral.
That's not to say pure idols are bad, but when you make "cannot have any positive interaction with any male besides the self insert" the baseline things start to get fucked.
Anonymous No.725717886 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
korean penis small
Anonymous No.725718463 [Report] >>725718650 >>725718812 >>725718839 >>725719028 >>725721575 >>725741491
>>725717881
That's just a strawman you've been fed, Anon.

Look at Girls Frontline both 1 and 2, look at Nikke, look at FGO. All of them have girls that deal with guys all the time. Dier was working with Team 404 for 10 years while the Commander was in exile but nobody has ever freaked out about him, K asked Alva out, and nobody had any issues with that, etc etc.

It legitimately is as simple as having the MC actually proactive, and not shipping the guys with the main cast of girls.

That's not even counting Hoyo games, like Genshin or ZZZ which have NPC shipping as one of their core elements.
Anonymous No.725718650 [Report] >>725719461
>>725718463
I agree with most of that but hoyoslop is aimed at a completely different audience and actually has had similar controversies as a result.
Anonymous No.725718812 [Report] >>725719461
>>725718463
>shipping guys with the main cast bad
Why?
Anonymous No.725718839 [Report] >>725719461
>>725718463
Strange you say gfl2 after the dayian meltdown, although it was such a schizo episode that is it's own beast.
Anonymous No.725719028 [Report] >>725719779 >>725749589
>>725718463
Bro you can go even harder on GO since it has actual couples in the game as units because its based on mythology in which said people were sometimes couples.

But then you also have shit like the Ishmael incident and it becomes clear that it is mainly a Korean issue that if it hits critical mass riles up fans in other countries.

I do hope that the North and South start shooting eventually, the resulting conflict would likely end with a South victory but one that fundamentally shifts the balance of power as gets their stagnant culture moving again.
At worst it gets a bunch of former North Koreans into the culture with wildly different tastes and a mass influx of manpower.
Anonymous No.725719038 [Report]
>>725713213
>tfw three literal (I'm guessing they're androids or the equivalent) plastic women won't bully me about my small "pistol" while my Look Outside bro hangs out in the back
What's even the point in clinging to life?
Anonymous No.725719313 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
Director wants his vision which aligns with reddit audience. Panik when whales dip and move.
Anonymous No.725719461 [Report] >>725720169 >>725720663
>>725718650
They're still impossibly successful gatcha games, you can't ringfence them out. Plenty of people who play Genshin or ZZZ also play Nikke or GFL2.

>>725718812
Because that's not what the audience wants? And the gatcha audience is one of the last remaining audiences that will push back on companies that try change the agreement.

If you want to have a story where the girls are shipped with other guys you can, a Genshin and ZZZ do that, so does FGO to some extent, and Umamusume has a fair bit of yuri baiting.

They were built from the ground up like that, that's the audience they cultivated. If you cultivate an audience that wants or expects something like Snowbreak and then try pivot into something like Genshin, then people will be pissed.

>>725718839
Case in point, GFL2 made a huge misstep there, because they saw how popular Genshin was and they wanted to try make the sequel along those lines.

The original intention was to have the MC be an outside observer like in Genshin, the fiasco with Raymond was them dipping their toes in and seeing if Genshin style NPC shipping would work.

It absolutely imploded, and rightfully so, because GFL2 was a sequel, and GFL1 hadn't been anything like that. They were essentially pivoting from their original fanbase into a direction they thought might have been more profitable (or maybe just one they preferred).

It was stupid and ridiculous, and it's absolutely right that the team that did that got fired and replaced with the writers from GFL1.

The issue wasn't having other male NPCs, the issue was Daiyan treating the MC like a distant colleague, while being pushed so strongly with this other guy. Thankfully it all got removed and what the story was replaced with was MUCH better.

The MC takes an active role and events will now be about pushing the narrative forward, rather than random side stories.
Anonymous No.725719779 [Report] >>725720798
>>725719028
The interesting thing for me was when it was pointed out that the Korean population had already peaked. We will never again see we many Koreans as we do today. It's going to go down several million.

I've always thought this was something that should be addressed culturally. Like, take manga for example, how many manga end with the MC and his/her love interest getting together, and then we see in the future they had a kid. But it's usually (not always but usually) only ever one kid.

They should normalise that in manga, anime, games, drama. Not in law or anything, just an encouragement, if you're gonna show a happily ever after shot, give the couple 2 or 3 or 4 kids. Normalising the idea of only having one child means population stagnation and decay.
Anonymous No.725719973 [Report] >>725720046
Reminder this is canon
Anonymous No.725720042 [Report] >>725722228 >>725722460 >>725734085 >>725740346
Just play Uma Musume if you don't want to deal with males in general.
Anonymous No.725720046 [Report]
>>725719973
brehs, is this real?????????
Anonymous No.725720169 [Report]
>>725719461
They are successful off the backs of normalfags more so than traditional gachafags. It's like comparing sportsball 20XX to a game that has a more traditional gaming audience. This is why people got pissed at the scarladouche shit in sumeru but nothing changed as a result, gachafags had not realized that they weren't the target audience and the normalfags who simply did not care vastly out weighed them.
Anonymous No.725720663 [Report] >>725721505 >>725737376
>>725719461
I don't think Mica was thinking on making the mc an outsider considering they have a personality and even fight themself in the first game but I do see they trying an approach like hoyo, from what I know no one is satisfied by the constant shiptease and pandering someone to be for (you) but forgets about you in the next event.
The thing that makes me doubt how legit the Dayian drama was is how everyone was twisting the history. That bullshit translation with the name Raymond meaning thunder god and linking it to the little tlighting accesory she wore when it was a gameplay presentarion because of the elemental damage, the bullshit review bombing and that retale of events with Dayian crashing a car because she remembered something about Raymond and they described it as her having an orgasm. Like, yeah, maybe it was shit but at some point they sounded and looked like schizos. And no, I am ot the kind of guy to go full hurr durr incels like some shitty youtuber.
Not like it matters because the game is absolute shit, seen my brother play it and he lost all faith as he played and how piss easy it is and how little he care about cheesecake.
Anonymous No.725720798 [Report] >>725721212 >>725721670
>>725719779
The population thing is scaremongering by the elites that run the country and need cheap domestic labor and young conscripts to exploit. The so-called "population collapse" will mean that in a hundred years, worst case scenario, Korea returns to the population it had in 1950. This is not extinction, but a return to normalcy. And in the best way possible too, no great matlhusian famine or plague or horrific genocide, just a peaceful and prosperous return to normal population levels.

This is happening globally. The global population isn't supposed to be almost 9 billion. If the whole world followed their lead and returned to the population it had in 1950, so many problems would be fixed. Environmental pressure, resource constraints, food and water stress, housing prices, wage suppression, pollution, employment problems... and also the birth rate. If all those things were fixed the birth rate would rebound to a better level too. At the end of the day people aren't gonna have kids if a manga tells them having kids is nice, they'll have kids if they can afford to have kids and the world is a nice place to bring kids into.

East Asian countries are just ahead of the curve, everyone else is going there eventually. The sooner they go through it, the faster the imbalanced population pyramid gets fixed. But no, the elites of every country (or no country) want wages to be as close to serfdom as possible forever and ever, so they do anything they can to that end. In European and Anglo countries that means importing foreigners to fill the gap, but their birthrates crater to native levels after one generation too. Even India is below replacement rate now. Think about it, even India will have to import guest workers from Africa to keep the pyramid scheme going. And where will Nigeria get its guest workers in 50 years? Perhaps immigrants from Mars?
Anonymous No.725721212 [Report] >>725721363 >>725721525
>>725720798
The main issue with the low birthrate is the lack of young people, when the population is a bunch of old farts, things don't do well.
Anonymous No.725721363 [Report] >>725721670
>>725721212
No, anon is pretty much spot on. It's a return to normalcy and the powers that be are horrified by it because the current fractional reserve system demands a constant increase of non-debt saturated bodies. Without it the pyramid scheme we call an economy will collapse completely.
Anonymous No.725721505 [Report]
>>725720663
You're completely right that the whole thing was filled top to bottom with misinformation and people from other gatcha intentionally spreading lies and trying to stoke the flames. That's why I'm glad they cleared out all the rot before the global launch, so we didn't get any of that garbage, and got a much better game instead.

That said, I do think the original plan was to make the MC mostly an observer/outsider for the original cast Dolls. Like, look at how both the game and the UI presented events.

Events were locked away in their own section of the UI, completely separate from the main plot. And in the story you'd have (for example) Makiatto added to the game, and you can roll on her and add her to your team and spend money on her... but her story was just a random side quest and there was zero indication when, if ever, she would be added to the main cast. Maybe we'd check in again with her every now and then, at best.

It's completely and utterly dissatisfying for people who played GFL1. I think the sentiment probably boiled over until the Daiyan event, where SKK *finally* gets to meet another original Doll (aside from Lenna I guess) and gets basically kept at arms length while the story narrates how important Raymond is to her instead.

Absolutely no surprise that went down like a lead balloon.
Anonymous No.725721516 [Report]
>>725713670
To be fair this sounds like another roastie sabotaging the writing. It's already suspicious the popular previous writer was fired and then suddenly every scene is about another guy
Imagine if LADS scenes included the guys constantly worried about another girl in front of you, EVERY czn scene is this kek
Anonymous No.725721525 [Report]
>>725721212
Yeah, but a system that relies on more people forever and ever wasn't going to work either way. Population growth was fairly flat for almost all of history. The industrial and agricultural revolutions created this blip where the population exploded by 800% in only two centuries. It was never going to last forever. You can't have a system where every member has to recruit more members into the system to keep it running, that's just a pyramid scheme.
Anonymous No.725721575 [Report]
>>725718463
Not only proactive but also the scenes being about the girls and the mc
In czn EVERY scene is about Owen
Anonymous No.725721619 [Report] >>725722110
So did she end up being yuribait or did they actually make her bi for (You) after the shitstorm?
Anonymous No.725721664 [Report] >>725721730 >>725727721
>>725713670
>Isn't that just normal writing?
not in gachas.
(You)'re supposed to be the sole [important] male in the entire world, girls cannot be lesbians either, they all must succumb to your cock.
Anonymous No.725721670 [Report] >>725721924 >>725722039 >>725722194
>>725720798
>>725721363
Nice idea in theory. In practice you can't just shrink your economy like that, and so instead your politicians destroy your culture by importing more, more and ever more migrant labour.

Every slightly wealthy Euro country is in the same position of population decline, but none of them report it like Korea or Japan does, because they import millions from Africa and the Middle East.

I don't know much about Korean immigration laws, but Japan has already loosened its restrictions multiple times. Right now Japan is about 95% Japanese, in ten years it'll be about 70%.
Anonymous No.725721687 [Report]
>>725713670
>people
ah, you misunderstand.
Anonymous No.725721730 [Report] >>725722758
>>725721664
Ie. How games used to be written.
Anonymous No.725721924 [Report]
>>725721670
I swear if I had powers I would send politicians to another planet with all their precious browns so they can be rich forever surrounded by shit
Anonymous No.725722035 [Report] >>725723169
>>725712536 (OP)
looks like a male Futo
Anonymous No.725722039 [Report]
>>725721670
It will still happen eventually. But you are right they will kick it down the road as long as possible. the only actual question is whether the imported horde causes civilization to completely collapse before or after everything else does.
Anonymous No.725722056 [Report] >>725722110
Will korean society ever heal? Or are they always going to be fucked from now on
Anonymous No.725722110 [Report]
>>725721619
Option 3, she tries to fuck the shota.
>>725722056
No, you don't come back from these sorts of things.
Anonymous No.725722158 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
>go to this games r34
>first shit that shows up is a bunch of cuck shit where this guy fucks your waifus
lmao based
Anonymous No.725722159 [Report]
I CAN'T PLAY WHERE IS THE UPDATE ON QOOAPP
Anonymous No.725722194 [Report] >>725722881
>>725721670
Yeah that's exactly what I was saying, the upper class that makes these decisions would do anything to huff copium and keep the pyramid scheme going as long as possible, even if it means importing a trillion foreign laborers, or dumping 56 trillion into dreams of automated robot laborers, etc. But eventually even the foreign labor will run out because birth rates are falling everywhere. So what happens in 100 years? It's just a band-aid on a terminally ill system, kicking the can down the road

A shrinking labor pool, whether by plague or war etc, historically always means redistribution of wealth, and that's a no-no for the oligarchs 100% of the time. Their goal is absolute maximum concentration of wealth, all else be damned. If you want to talk about "importing millions" just look at Canada and their big population increase plan, which nobody voted for or campaigned on, approved across party lines by their "democracy", at the expense of the voting public. Human labor is a shrinking resource and the local oligarchs understand they need to hoard as much of it as possible as fast as possible, povertymaxxx to the extreme so the system keeps chugging through their lifetime, and after that they're dead so who cares what happens.

And then you have Korea, China, and Japan in the reverse situation, where they're facing population shrinkage earlier. The fact that they face it earlier means they have an opportunity to accept it earlier and move past it, and their economies will be healthier later on if they do this. The countries that try and dope themselves with cheap imported labor will face a rude awakening later on, simply because their drug of choice will inevitably get more expensive
Anonymous No.725722228 [Report]
>>725720042
ENTER
Anonymous No.725722460 [Report]
>>725720042
Anonymous No.725722465 [Report] >>725722642
>>725712536 (OP)
Makes people talk about the game more than it deserves and for the wrong reasons really. It's all about Owen and never about the game itself being absolute garbage even by gacha standards or how they try to force you to install their shitty launcher if you want to play on PC without an emulator.
Anonymous No.725722642 [Report] >>725722794
>>725722465
Being garbage was a forgone conclusion. It's the same company as epic 7.
Anonymous No.725722758 [Report] >>725725352 >>725729958
>>725721730
I... No? Not at all? In fact I can't think of any game BEFORE gachas became popular that work that way. Even dating sims tend to have some other guy you're competing against so that there's a fail condition. Like I'm genuinely trying to think of a single game that was entirely "one dude in the entire world and all the girls want to fuck him". It's not even a common concept in fucking H-games!
Anonymous No.725722794 [Report]
>>725722642
Indeed, it is. Another reason why no one should even talk about it. It'll fade into irrelevancy within months and won't even show up on the gacha revenue charts. Hopefully they go bankrupt.
Anonymous No.725722881 [Report] >>725749141
>>725722194
>At the end of the day people aren't gonna have kids if a manga tells them having kids is nice, they'll have kids if they can afford to have kids and the world is a nice place to bring kids into.
That's not how it works. All people now can afford kids, most of the time people gave birth in much, much worse conditions. It's about mind, really. People now just look at things differently, which is something that can be chainged.
>This is not extinction, but a return to normalcy
You don't actually know what normalcy is. 0.7 or whatever birth rate is not normal, and nothing says that it's simply going to fix itsel.
>Environmental pressure, resource constraints, food and water stress, housing prices, wage suppression, pollution, employment problems... and also the birth rate. If all those things were fixed the birth rate would rebound to a better level too
You're just pulling shit out of your ass now.
Unc SHiN !RfQvneuvRU No.725723051 [Report] >>725723178
Good thing I never considered playing CZD.
Anonymous No.725723169 [Report]
>>725722035
Unironically true, he looks like Futo if she got shoved into a blender with a bishounen filter on max. I can't unsee the stupid hat/poncho combo either. Wonder if they just kitbashed a bunch of Touhou designs in mid-development and called it a day.
Anonymous No.725723178 [Report] >>725730013
>>725723051
>trip fag
Anonymous No.725724714 [Report]
HOMO FUCK
BUTT SEX
GAY COCK
Anonymous No.725724902 [Report]
>>725713213
so feminists are pushing for shota characters?
do mind if I do!
Anonymous No.725725016 [Report]
>>725713326
Because Koreans actually do boycott and organize against companies to get what they want. Westoids just take it up the ass.
Anonymous No.725725159 [Report]
all fufos are stinky and delusional
Anonymous No.725725352 [Report] >>725727721 >>725746421
>>725722758
That's because you're taking the point to a silly extreme. Let's look so a Baldur's Gate 2.

Who does Aerie want to fuck? Is it Minsc? Is it Cernd? Edwin? What and Amonen? No it's the player character, only. Okay, what about Jaheria? Yup, only him. How about Viconia, a drow and massive slut? Yup, she's only for the player character too.

Games like Harvest Moon and Rune Factory having rivals was considered an interesting exception, because it was the exception. And even then it was all at the players discretion, generally the girls would only marry someone else if the player character didn't want to marry them, he always had the first right of refusal.
Anonymous No.725725515 [Report] >>725725719
>>725712536 (OP)
>draw a very feminine, pear shaped, thick thighs,cute face, kyojiri, small pp boy
>call it a boy
Anonymous No.725725719 [Report] >>725725928
>>725725515
Its a self insert character for Koreans.
Anonymous No.725725928 [Report]
>>725725719
Oh...This might explain their current birthrate then.
Anonymous No.725726258 [Report] >>725726662 >>725737270
>>725713326
South Koreans are the biggest woman haters on the planet.
Bigger than the USA, bigger than Mexico, bigger than Saudi Arabia, bigger than India
They have inhuman levels of hatred toward women
Anonymous No.725726483 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
People ackshually read the story in this?
Anonymous No.725726662 [Report]
>>725726258
Given what I've read about their women, it seems justified.
I'm surprised they're not all in chains yet.
>the men or the women?
yes
Anonymous No.725727721 [Report] >>725727870 >>725729516
>>725725352
I'm replying to someone who was taking it to that extreme.>>725721664
Yes, the romance options in Baldur's Gate 2 were for you, but there were other women in that game that DON'T just wanna fuck you, which is absolutely unacceptable to this genre of schizo. Not to mention a lot of other important males.
Anonymous No.725727870 [Report] >>725729516
>>725727721
Also Jaheira was LITERALLY FUCKING MARRIED in BG1! Wouldn't that be an "older days" game too?
Anonymous No.725728331 [Report]
>>725712843
Wow, we've got a genius here. How did you figure that out?
Anonymous No.725728417 [Report] >>725728539 >>725728804
>>725712536 (OP)
I dunno why people on this site are shitting on gooks for this. If the same situation occurred in a western game, and the guy was black instead of a twink, this board would be flooded with cuck threads 24/7.
Anonymous No.725728539 [Report] >>725728990
>>725728417
Wrong. If the guy is cool enough /v/ doesnt give a shit.
Anonymous No.725728804 [Report] >>725729489 >>725732443
>>725728417
Did you play the game?
They're shitting on it because it was found out that even the EN version toned down the cuck shit.
He was literally cucking you in the korean version the writer was literally taunting players.
If you think thats just absurd and no one would do such a thing oh boy do you need to read up on how fucked they really are in gookland.
Anonymous No.725728990 [Report] >>725729038 >>725729083 >>725740456
>>725728539
Daisuke lost all of his credibility with the bridget shit. Its like if Deltarune suddenly turned into a game for straight people in the next chapter.
Anonymous No.725729013 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
I have no idea what this is, but I need him to choke on my dick.
Anonymous No.725729038 [Report] >>725729130 >>725729416 >>725729570
>>725728990
>the creator lost his credibility because he did something different than what i expected
Anonymous No.725729083 [Report]
>>725728990
That was pretty funny.
Dude flipped completely.
Anonymous No.725729130 [Report]
>>725729038
Das right. Cope.
Anonymous No.725729175 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
If he's cute, I don't care if he fucks my waifu or has a platonic sleepover in the same bed as me. Or a shower.
Anonymous No.725729243 [Report]
>>725713326
bugs people will act like bugs...
Anonymous No.725729416 [Report]
>>725729038
Yeah, that's how it works.
Anonymous No.725729489 [Report] >>725729595
>>725728804
Are you retarded...
The MC is literally just nothing. Just old captain B.
Anonymous No.725729516 [Report] >>725730003 >>725742512
>>725727721
There's women in GFL1, GFL2, Nikke, Arknights and even BA that have little or no romantic interest in the player character, and even that are designated love interests of other guys. I believe that's also true in FGO, let alone Genshin, ZZZ, HSR, Umamusume etc.

And all those games have important males too. K was basically SKK's battle buddy in GFL1, everyone fucking loved him, and Dier was miles more popular than his (hot) sister.

This of all strawman stuff. People are able to understand the difference. What they don't want is the MC to be emasculated, or for women that are clearly presented as being "for you" being designated with other guys.

But you can see that beyond Gatcha games. XIV for example, there's a very frustrating tendency for feminists to aggressively ship any woman that shows interest in the WoL with anyone else, (Y'shtola clearly loves him? No! She's only for Runar, er, I mean Zero, no I mean Runar! Kan-E pretty openly confesses her love for him? Man, I hope she gets with the literally unnamed NPC that stands behind her. Yugiri says she wishes she could stay in Eorzea with the WoL? Um, actually, she should be with Hien! And Hien's love interest should be a lesbian!) meanwhile, they ship themselves with G'raha, and Estinnien and Aymeric.

>>725727870
Yeah, and funny how that worked out, right?

It's the same with PS:T. A game which outright says that Anna is a virgin and very coyly impress implies that Grace is too.
Anonymous No.725729570 [Report] >>725730650
>>725729038
Yeah? That's how it works, lmao.

When my favourite band completely switched genre to one I didn't care about, I stopped caring about them too.
Anonymous No.725729595 [Report]
>>725729489
The characters refer to (You) throughout the game. Even in the very first scene. (You) go on dates with them after a certain level.
The game literally gives you 3 date tickets per day.
Anonymous No.725729958 [Report]
>>725722758
>Even dating sims tend to have some other guy you're competing against so that there's a fail condition.
they had one or two girls like that
and every other girl was only interested in the player character

now every female (and male) character is a bi slut who fucks everyone at the same time
Anonymous No.725730003 [Report]
>>725729516
All that yapping just to be wrong on the first sentence. YWNBAW
Anonymous No.725730013 [Report]
>>725723178
That one is a trip tranny, actually.
Anonymous No.725730650 [Report]
>>725729570
That's not what credibility pertains to
Anonymous No.725732317 [Report] >>725749971
>>725712536 (OP)
Is there porn of this little fag getting fucked?
Anonymous No.725732443 [Report] >>725733120
>>725728804
I know, which is why I said this board has no place shitting on gooks for being upset over that shit.
Anonymous No.725733098 [Report] >>725734459
>>725713213
Can't fucking STAND nothing burger MCs that don't do anything.
I can enjoy nothing-burger MCs as long as they're kick ass or have good accomplishments like Master Chief or whatever. But this is just retarded.
I'm glad I'm not a gachafag, the communities seem to just be filled with waifufag paypiggies and a loud minority of yuri-tards.
Anonymous No.725733120 [Report]
>>725732443
We here on /v/ love bettermen
Anonymous No.725733487 [Report]
>>725713213
KEKED ZERO NIGHTMARE
Anonymous No.725733717 [Report] >>725734617
>I throw a nuclear meltdown cause some bitch did a gesture of small pp
Unless you're below average why should that bother you? Seems like genuine mental illness, If I wanted fanservice to jerk off I would just go to a porn site and save myself the headache of playing gacha shit
Anonymous No.725733847 [Report]
>>725713213
>pic
And this was AFTER translators both EN/JP essentially rewrote the scenes themselves even they realized how bad that shit would roll over with the type of people interested in this type of game.
Effectively "censoring" the product to quell backlash that anyone with a brain can see coming.
Anonymous No.725734085 [Report]
>>725720042
The issue with no males and no male shipping in gacha is that you get a bunch of yuri-faggots turning the series into their AGP cope.
Anonymous No.725734130 [Report] >>725735041 >>725735634
The difference in attitude is really interesting. Westerners feel no threat or competition from femboys whatsoever, seeing them as just sex toys for them and their gfs to enjoy.
Anonymous No.725734197 [Report]
>>725713326
When you're spending hundreds of dollars on one waifu you get extremely attached
Anonymous No.725734356 [Report] >>725734404
>>725717129
>Because gatcha are pretty much the last gaming space that does still shamelessly and openly appeal to men, and sell them a fantasy
This is bullshit. Gachas appeal to people prone to gambling addiction who also can't control their lust and think engaging with skinner boxes that offer sexualized anime girls as a reward is a good use of their time. They're coomers with more money than sense.
Anonymous No.725734404 [Report]
>>725734356
>This is bullshit.
>>>>heres why it isnt bullshit.
You're a fungi
Anonymous No.725734459 [Report]
>>725733098
>nothing-burger MCs as long as they're kick ass or have good accomplishments
Gachafags hate those kind of MCs, especially mihomofags.
Anonymous No.725734617 [Report]
>>725733717
Koreancels are a different breed
Anonymous No.725734684 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
Quadratic pondering
Anonymous No.725734948 [Report]
>>725717257
Only good comment in this thread.
Anonymous No.725735041 [Report] >>725735672
>>725734130
This isnt true in the slightest and goes back to tbe fear of the (fake) gay friend from way back when.

The only things men can offer to women are manly things. If a woman doesn't care for that, or has someone who can do one and the other, you become obsolete. I don't think it's an understatment to say that most men across history have only ever passed their genes across because they could lift overhead more than the other guy as opposed to looks(altho markers of genetic health such as skullshape cpuldve helped.)
My point being is that if a femboy or a twunk can outbench you there's 0 reason for a woman to ever want you over him.

If you look at female-centric romanceslop novels all of the male characters are usually some sort of a "prettyboy"
Anonymous No.725735095 [Report]
>>725717570
>but they banned porn
But i thought sex work is based
Anonymous No.725735175 [Report] >>725735912
>>725712536 (OP)
UN Owen Was Him
Anonymous No.725735440 [Report]
I wonder what happened to the anons that were shilling this when it came out, because they sure aren't even trying to obscure all of this.
Anonymous No.725735634 [Report] >>725736538
>>725734130
You are delusional bro. It isn't about femboys, it's about the MC being a worthless dishrag whilst another male character can fight and gets praised for saving the day.
Anonymous No.725735672 [Report] >>725735838 >>725735992
>>725735041
A femboy that works out is healthy competition and helps to keep his tight little body ready for sex. I am straight but that would be an ideal bf material.
Anonymous No.725735838 [Report] >>725736308
>>725735672
I'm basically that but a twink and not a femboy(i'm not sure what the difference is exactly. I just dont look like le draw woman say its a man meme, just a very unmanly man.). I am also straight but socially awkward so i've never had a gf in spite of looking ok.
Anonymous No.725735912 [Report]
>>725735175
Lol
Anonymous No.725735992 [Report]
>>725735672
>ATREUS! ITS FINE IF OTHER MEN FLIRT WITH YOUR MOTHER, ITS HEALTHY COMPETITION!
Anonymous No.725736298 [Report] >>725744137
>>725712536 (OP)
I love that the solution to this entire fiasco is just to make the player character a playable character with a face. That's literally all it takes for them to be plot relevant and quell the cuck brigade.

I also love that this thread is like 50% logical and sensible people and 50% delusional gachafags that really exemplify the gross stereotype
Anonymous No.725736308 [Report]
>>725735838
In an ideal world twinks would be sexualised in the same way girls are in games, and it would be good to see more variety there.
Anonymous No.725736369 [Report]
who cares about what the worthless self-inserting suicide victims think?
Anonymous No.725736393 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
>still going on about the nothingburger drama
Tired of getting BTFO on /vg/, anon?
Anonymous No.725736538 [Report] >>725737078
>>725735634
I will never play any gambling game so I don't really care about the facts. I just want to post about femboys and twinks.
Anonymous No.725737078 [Report]
>>725736538
Well, go ahead then, we're waiting
Anonymous No.725737210 [Report] >>725737247
>>725713326
Gachagods are based and refuse to eat pig for slops like normie consoomers do. They know that developers must KNEEL for them, not the other way around.
Anonymous No.725737247 [Report]
>>725737210
Only easterners
Anonymous No.725737270 [Report]
>>725726258
Unfathomably based.
60% of civilizational problems would be solved in a decade if we revoked the right to vote for w*men.
Anonymous No.725737376 [Report] >>725744357 >>725744384
>>725720663
>singular they
>"themself"
what is wrong with you tranny, SKK is canon male. They even got rid of the tranny they/them pronoun bullshit for him REAL fast.
yes you can play as the female version, Gentiane, but she is not canon. she was made up in the dogshit anime
Anonymous No.725737605 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
Anonymous No.725738189 [Report]
>>725713326
Because unlike most game devs gacha game devs will listen to their fanbase.
Anonymous No.725738697 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
I want to have sex with him.
Anonymous No.725738905 [Report]
Owen? Wonned
Korean incels? Seethed and losted BIGLY
Anonymous No.725739938 [Report]
>>725717257
>make product that customers enjoy
>they support your business
>make product that customers hate
>they drop your business
Incomprehensible. What sorcery is this?
Anonymous No.725740136 [Report] >>725740185
>>725715317
South korea is like every single conspiracy theory that exists regarding the US was actually true. They LITERALLY and ACTUALLY had a gynocentric cult control their President that LITERALLY was only uncovered because of a sacrificial ritual involving drowning students
Anonymous No.725740185 [Report] >>725740465
>>725740136
What makes you think thats not the case in US
Anonymous No.725740214 [Report]
>>725713670
you seem to have dropped the point that you as a player are written as the third bystander observer when you are the tactician.
Anonymous No.725740307 [Report] >>725748460
>>725717783
anon they literally had to oust their female president because she was in a cult
Anonymous No.725740346 [Report]
>>725720042
I'll now play your honse game.
Anonymous No.725740404 [Report]
all girls in all gacha games should be only for (you)
Anonymous No.725740456 [Report]
>>725728990
It is a game for straight people though.
Anonymous No.725740465 [Report]
>>725740185
Even if it is the case in the US it has never been truly confirmed with actual evidence, and accepted as truth by the populace. South Korea’s suicide rate is the 2nd highest for a reason. It’s like if every us citizen knew for a fact 9/11 was an inside job.
Anonymous No.725740515 [Report] >>725743310
>>725712536 (OP)

as an extremely dumbed down TLDR:
>'feminism'
>AI Illustrations
>NTR
>protagonist shafted
>internal politics shafting the original story/concept/world of a minor but well anticipated author/devs causing everything in this list to happen (which was the trigger to this entire shebang apon reveal)
>modified dialogue depending on server
>shadownerfs/patches/price increase
>damage control in communities and boards
>shadownerf gacha rates and various feature removals/downgrades (at least 10+ different instances which would demand too much space to cover individually, like fucking removal of L2D features for some reason?)
>removal of refund requests (btw is fucking illegal wtf are they thinking)
>revealed beta builds shows some actually nice quality worldbuilding with proper dialogues which further fueld the fire with emotions of 'what could have been' and 'it could've been so great, so grand'
long story short the PD, nepo'd into position, 'modified' the original plot and setting using internal politics pressure, butchered it with the modifications done by himself and his lackeys, failed to pass internal testing QR due to abysimal quality, said lackeys left when faced with disapproval, and subsitutes filling in their position had to sew the leftover patchworks of whatever 'setting' the damned thing had.
it's a complete shitshow and everyone here is just absolutely flabgastered and exasperated at how horribly mismanaged shitshow this has been, and in extention, could have been, and somehow keeps revealing its dirty secrets not monthly, not weekly, not daily, but at fucking HOURLY rate during the peak of this debacle.
I don't know much about how it's like overseas and it's been years since I've touched gacha games, but even from skimming various communities here this game is considered a fucking pariah in this state. shit's fucked yo.
>t. gook
Anonymous No.725740635 [Report]
gachacucks enjoy getting cucked
paying up and getting nothing
Anonymous No.725741391 [Report]
Westerners won't feel threatened by some K-pop looking faggot cause even the average white guy has a bigger dick than asian men
They became extremely xenophobic over westerners cause their women would choose them, like you just need to be an average white guy and some nip girls would hook up with you cause their me are too paaaive and boring
Anonymous No.725741491 [Report]
>>725718463
>FGO shitty self insert
He's a retard cuck and a faggot
Anonymous No.725742512 [Report] >>725742715 >>725742852 >>725742930 >>725743226
>>725729516
do people really care about this stuff
Anonymous No.725742657 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
Koreans are so insecure that they feel threatened by a SHOTA
Anonymous No.725742715 [Report]
>>725742512
In the gacha sphere, yes. It's honestly one of the most important things for players is how much (You) content is going on or how relevant (You)r avatar is.
Anonymous No.725742852 [Report]
>>725742512
Only "people" with huge ambitions in life but zero drive, and thus zero achievements.
Anonymous No.725742890 [Report] >>725743598
>>725712605
>>725712758
>no one posted this yet
this place really is newfag central
Anonymous No.725742930 [Report]
>>725742512
Gachafags are generally subhumans,like 95% just shitskins too poor to afford real games and too smooth brained to know how a torrent works and where to get without putting a trojan in your PC so they flock to these F2P gachas where they can find their mentally ill brothers and sperg out together cause a fictional anime woman talked to a male that is not you
Anonymous No.725743226 [Report]
>>725742512
This should tell you who is the main demographics for gacha games and it will explain everything
Anonymous No.725743294 [Report]
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12946131&tags=chaos_zero_nightmare
Kek someone made Rental GF meme
Anonymous No.725743310 [Report] >>725743562 >>725744932
>>725740515
>t. gook
I wonder how many cute asian guys are posting here. You need to be protected from those disgusting femisist hags.
Anonymous No.725743562 [Report]
>>725743310
They hate their men but will spread their legs to the first westerner they see
Specially if they do the foreigner thing and speak a bit of Korean, bitches love that shit
Anonymous No.725743598 [Report]
>>725742890
>he who fucked my wife, I shall fuck him in the ass
Did Confucius really say that?
Anonymous No.725743630 [Report] >>725744079
>>725713670
Its the price games pay when they make their mc a selfinsert. Any perceived slight to the selfinsert mc becomes a slight to the customer.
Anonymous No.725744079 [Report] >>725745201
>>725743630
>posts gacha with they/them tranny pronouns
lmao
Anonymous No.725744137 [Report]
>>725736298
>just to make the player character a playable character with a face.
Your average gookcel wouldn't be able to self-insert
Anonymous No.725744357 [Report]
>>725737376
>she was made up in the dogshit anime
she appeared first on the manga im still not sure if they really wanted to push for a female protagonist but it sure looks like that
Anonymous No.725744376 [Report] >>725745054 >>725747392
I mean, I may be a disgusting gachafag, but at least the player base in my gachashit doesn't consist of mentally ill gooks
Anonymous No.725744384 [Report] >>725744596 >>725745054
>>725737376
>yes you can play as the female version, Gentiane, but she is not canon. she was made up in the dogshit anime
Unironically I've only seen trannies liking Genshitanne, same with FemShep.
Anonymous No.725744596 [Report]
>>725744384
Femshep is at least hot, Gentianne looks like a troon
Anonymous No.725744932 [Report]
>>725743310
we do have our communities and 4chan is certainly known, but I doubt many venture to this place. despite the population clamoring to learn english at best it's done just to earn a job and most subculture groups tend to stay in select few major communities (with our own versions of >reddit and 4chan(s), vibes wise).
although I did see other gooks(or really convincing ones) appear here on various other boards so there are definitely some lurking these threads. I know for certain that during that initial wave of Project Moon threads there was an influx of people paying notice to threads here (particulaly to /vg/ when the lobcorp threads got exiled to it), and the /vg/ league absolutely reminds them the existance of this place every once in a while. specific /v/ or /vg/ threads also rarely appear as epik screencaps when a game/media with a big fanbase gets an update as well.
Anonymous No.725745054 [Report]
>>725744376
The only gacha fanbases that don't complain MC humiliation rituals and shipshit are the ones with fairly strong global fanbases like hoyo's games. i.e. the ones with a sizable population of women, homosexuals, and trannies.
>>725744384
Femshep predates current year identitarianism. Some people propped her up because she's voiced by jennifer hale.
Anonymous No.725745201 [Report] >>725748663
>>725744079
R1999 did have that bullshit
Med is the inverse of the trope.
Their gender isnt known. they have no preference to where they get mad at people who do fuss over pronoun shit, to the point theyd rather someone defiantly call them a man, woman, dog or slur and be done with it than waste time on semantics that could be spent in the lab working.
Anonymous No.725745429 [Report] >>725746667 >>725746960
>>725713213
>feminism is a completely different beast in south korea
QRD?
Anonymous No.725746023 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
cute twink, not interested
Anonymous No.725746421 [Report]
>>725725352
Tbf all the romance girls in BG2 were sluts, Aerie wants to be fucked by any/every male in the party, and Jaheria was glad her husband was dead to move on to some younger meat
Anonymous No.725746667 [Report]
>>725745429
there's been so much shit going down for two decades to even give a proper qrd in 2k words.
to give you a general example of their vibes the ones here causally mentions that all males should hang (yes this includes their father as well), unironically. they ran a deeply insular community on our reddit equivilant site which requires the photo of your Social Security Card (to proove that you're a female) to enter, in which they festered with not just bogstandard operations you'd expect from feminism but legitimately illegal acts like drug traffiicking and posting criminal acts.
btw despite the public appeal for the site to be shut down due to aformentioned criminal elelments the politicians pay no heed; instead they maintain this political group since this keeps the youner population nice and devided clamoring at each other's throats while they carry on with their politics relatively undisturbed; it seems to be working unfortuantely, since only fuckups of massive scale can rouse the general population to the streets in sufficient numbers (they still happen like that coup last year lmao).
Anonymous No.725746960 [Report]
>>725745429
They had liveleak sites celebrating male deaths and have a state endorsed mafia. Only because it keeps infighting so everyone is too divided to deal with their countrybeing not only an actual dystopia, but two dystopias.
Samsung own the country in all but name.
Anonymous No.725747392 [Report]
>>725744376
And which gachashit do you play?
Anonymous No.725747414 [Report] >>725747712
So what are you guys thinking of the event? Frankly my complaint now is that it can't decide itself when it wants to be comedic and when it wants to be serious. But for what it takes I'm enjoying both sides of it.
Really feels like it was a huge damage control event if not tweaked around the controversies and criticism. The MC has more agency, although he is painted like BA's Sensei as somewhat of a chill guy pushing problems for later to have fun, Renoa is more clingy, we get interactions with more of the cast and they pushed Owen away from the story straight away lmao
I'm still early on it but enjoying the cast and seeing where it goes
Anonymous No.725747712 [Report]
>>725747414
I stopped caring for the plot already. The space ship place is filled with a bunch of the usual retarded anime designs, while the chaos stuff is filled with body horror and misery. The two aesthetics clash so hard that it's impossible for me to take the story seriously.
Anonymous No.725747808 [Report]
>>725713307
koreanbros just need to embrace ss femdom fetish
Anonymous No.725748298 [Report] >>725748695 >>725749208 >>725751207
any of those new gacha worth playing
>stella sora
>chaos zero nightmare
>resonace train star
>duet night abyss
Anonymous No.725748460 [Report]
>>725740307
The funny thing is that this is business as usual for SK government.
Every single politician is involved in or directly causes some absolute looney tunes bullshit.
Anonymous No.725748663 [Report] >>725748759
>>725745201
>their
>they
Yeah nah, you can fuck off with that inversion bullshit. It's a goddamn fucking they/them tranny I don't want that shit in my video games period.
Anonymous No.725748695 [Report]
>>725748298
>>chaos zero nightmare
Yes because the card game gameplay is actually good. In fact, the reason CZN survived in spite of all of those controversies, most of which were true, was because people got addicted to the gameplay.
Anonymous No.725748759 [Report]
>>725748663
Based.
These subversive faggots don't deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Anonymous No.725749091 [Report]
>>725713213
>>725713326
If you want to see how these subhuman think, just check the drama general on /vmg/
Yeah, they made a general of mtl chink forum posts and mental illnesses
Anonymous No.725749141 [Report]
>>725722881
>That's not how it works. All people now can afford kids, most of the time people gave birth in much, much worse conditions.
During that time, having kids meant *more hands to work* and was an investment that paid off in as little as 5 years. This is no longer the case for obvious reasons; children are an enormous burden for 18 or more years. To change this you'd have to reinstate child labor, abolish mandatory education, on and on and on, and nobody is going to regress to subsistence farming levels because some retard wants the line to keep going up for a little longer.
Anonymous No.725749208 [Report]
>>725748298
CZN has a really cool battle system. Everything gameplay related is pretty good but everything else is pretty mid.
Can't comment on the other games, I rarely ever touch gacha, only tried that one because someone shilled it as Slay the Spire + Darkest Dungeon in anime space.
Anonymous No.725749313 [Report]
>>725713326
Real answer, because extremist feminism in east asia has poisoned gender relations. Men and women are at war and media is the battleground.
Anonymous No.725749589 [Report] >>725750986
>>725719028
South Koreans are never going to win because fucking China right next to them. If it even looks like the North is facing difficulties expect them to get a donation of a bazillion tons of equipment and soldiers.
Anonymous No.725749971 [Report] >>725751239
>>725732317
The lack of replies suggests no.
Anonymous No.725750986 [Report]
>>725749589
China giving equipment I can see, and specialists to train with NK on those weapons yeas, but actual Chinese boots on the ground would serve nobody's interests.
If China got directly involved it would obligate the US to get involved which regardless of saber rattling burns up decades of trade at a time when the US still needs Chinese industrial output and China needs one of its biggest buyers to support its own initiatives.
Then making it into a international hot war costs both sides the level of independence from their patron country developed over the years which wouldn't go away once one side won.
Then we have the current example of the Russia-Ukraine conflict in which the entirety of NATO has dompted their surplus into it but have not directly engaged and we see the modern playbook.
To which China is strong, but they have never particularly liked NK outside of seeing them as a buffer, and so I cannot see them burning the same level of surplus as the US and NATO on the conflict, especially during a period where they are transitioning away from ideological rule and into pure economy and influence oriented rule, the money si just to good to pass up right now.
Anonymous No.725751207 [Report]
Im halfway through chapter 4 and haven't seen shit with this dude.
>>725748298
The Chaos Zero gameplay is REALLY good, you pull for character, you get cards via gameplay and when you get those good decks its awesome, I have a team that can pull off like 14 attacks per turn if I get a good hand.
Anonymous No.725751239 [Report]
>>725749971
Game just came out like a month ago bro. You might be able to find some sloppa though
Anonymous No.725751246 [Report]
>>725713326
A finished game has one chance to fall on its face or not, a live service game has that chance every time they release an update. Gacha's are also largely pandering games, they live and die on stringing along what their audience wants and a bad update can sour all of that work. If an update fucks up the gameplay, that's salvageable. All the previous fun the players had is still there, so they might come back if you fix things. If an update fucks up the pandering though, that poisons everything that came before
Anonymous No.725752323 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
>Qrd on the situation?
Originally, they hired a popular web novel author to do the story for the game where it was more in like with what you'd expect from gook regressor edgekino, the girls would have Eldritch horror bad ends in the original timeline and you'd use your rewind powers to save them, the boy was going to be revealed to be your son from a future timeline like Morgan in Fire Emblem Awakening, and the maternal affection shown to him by the haremettes was because one of them (or potentially all of them due to timeline fuckery) was actually his mother and proof that (You) and the girls had nakadashi mating press sex at some time in the future.

The web novel author was fired and the plot was rewritten. All the body horror shit and canon time looping was removed and now the boy has no relation to the player and instead is shipped romantically with the girls because some people doing the rewrites wanted that, turning the game from a protagonist centered harem plot to one with more of an emphasis on shipping. Regardless of your thoughts on this, those two approaches are like oil and water and changing from one to the other will ALWAYS result in shit flinging and vitriol. If Love and Deep Space introduced a new gigastacy who was fucking half of the otome playerbase 's digital boyfriends there would be kyoani firebombing and murder in response from furious yumejoshis

Personally I'm disappointed the original plot was scrapped and the author was fired because despite being an incredibly popular genre there's not really any actual gook regeessorslop gacha games, the closest is limbus but A: I don't give a fuck about project moon shit, and B: it's still not really the same since it's more like a localized undo button than groundhog day time looping.
Anonymous No.725752547 [Report]
>>725712536 (OP)
>ywn mating press him