Thread 725712759

Just upgrade already. You're not impressing anyone by gimping your gaming PC

I agree, which is why I'm going Linux.
Well, that and the hot trans furry girl.

Fedora

Already did.

>>725712759 (OP)
why?

>>725712759 (OP)
I upgraded, and this shit sucks, they literally hide the User folder now, but pinned fucking OneDrive, it's fucking continuation of My PC > This PC

>>725712759 (OP)
My old gayming PC officially doesn't support Win11.

>>725712759 (OP)
I'm using Windows 7 with VxKex. Whenever that quits working on modern software I'll just use Linux

can't my shitty motherboard can't handle having secure boot active and will constantly cause the computer to crash.
I had to disable secure boot and downgrade from 11 to 10.

I want to use 11 because I had no other issues using it, but the crashes sucked.

>>725712759 (OP)
Give me a $10,000,000 and I'll think about it

>>725712759 (OP)
With the upcoming steam hardware I'm finally gonna be free from jeetdows.

>>725712759 (OP)
I want to move to Bazzite, but unfortunately some programs I use are still wangblow only. Will move to Bazzite once devs port them to Linux or I find an adequate replacement. Hopefully nvidia drivers for Linux will be better by then.

>>725712759 (OP)
I did how do I stop the antivirus from deleting my piracy. Exe

>>725712869
Based. Fedora atomic is the future , universal blue spins are amazing.

>>725712759 (OP)
>upgrade
>to a system which is full of even more bloat and spyware
>to a syste3m which takes scrreenshots of your activity every few seconds and sends them out in reports
FUck off retard lololol

>>725713196
Use simplewall and block all of that shit.

If you're already using a regular W10 install there's no real reason not to switch to 11. Basically the same level of cancer.

>>725713291
Fucking no, jeetsoft shill

>>725713408
If you have a debloated W10 install with all the shit stripped out or blocked then keep using that. If you're a normal user like 99.999% of people using W10, your shit is already getting spied on and you probably don't give a fuck. And for the record I'd prefer if people would switch over to Linux instead but no one wants to even though there are distros that are completely braindead easy to setup and use.

is w11 ltsc bad as well?

>>725713291
11 is just 10 with the cancer cranked up. There is no reason to switch.

>>725712759 (OP)
If I'm going to "upgrade" it'll be getting the new Steam Machine. It's technically worse specs than my current PC, but the change in OS is likely enough to make up for that.

don't care, still on 7

>>725715365
You know you can just install Bazzite or the steamOS desktop ISO (once Valve release it) on your current rig?

>>725715487
Yeah, I just forgot because I was distracted by new thing.

>>725712759 (OP)
You know they fucked up when people are going BACK to 7.

10 is already a privacy and bloat nightmare, surprised they somehow managed to make it even worse that even 10cattle couldn't stomach it.

>>725712759 (OP)
>had a windows 10 update yesterday
I WAS PROMISED END OF SUPPORT, WHY IS THIS SHIT STILL UPDATING?

>>725717227
>It's afraid!

>>725717227
To annoy you. If people on 10 have an objectively better experience thanks to a lack of interruption then they can't get people to switch over to 11.

Unironically a redditor take
no seriously it takes a bootlicker who likes other men to fuck his wife (if he had one) to fucking say that
it takes 30 years being a push over bitch working at the most gay ass tech company for your neurons to shit out shit like this, and all you have to show for your life is a subpar linkin profile

>>725713012
Use ame11

>>725712759 (OP)
>windows 10 support ends
>steam machine using Arch comes out almost in time for an upgrade
thanks, but I think I'll use 10 a bit longer

My computer's fine. I just want SteamOS to make its way to home computers so I can ditch Mint and finally go to Arch.

>>725712759 (OP)
I upgraded to Arch Linux btw a long time ago already.

>>725712759 (OP)
Half the shit I play is over a decade old and the main game I play is over 20 years old and not even on steam.

>>725718601
I like arch until I break it by updating the system
other then that its peak

i went back to windows after 10 years of arch (btw)

Is steamOS just Linux but with more qol? Why shouldnt I run with that?

>>725718915
Because you can't play Fortnite and COD on it.

>>725719025
GOOD

literally the instant that celsys makes a linux version of Clip Studio Paint i'm abandoning windows

>>725718730
Real breakage is pretty rare these days. My current installation is over 6 years old and I only had to reinstall because I accidentally wiped the wrong drive when I meant to get rid of Windows instead.
Sometimes there are upgrades that require manual intervention, but most pacman wrappers fetch the news and notify you when trying to update.

>>725720021
idk i hardly install shit, but in a years time a update will for what ever the fuck reason break shit
the linux people tel me im just retarded and should use a simpler distro

which sucks because i actually do like arch all things considered, I just wish it wouldnt fucking break when I update it

>>725712759 (OP)
>experts claim

>>725718915
It's Linux but locked down, by design. You can't do wild shit that'd break your system, and any permanent config changes are reverted by updates. At least that's what I heard, if I were you I'd just install CachyOS or EndeavorOS. Or if you DO want the locked down design, install Bazzite, as I'm pretty sure SteamOS is not officially supported yet.

>>725718398
This. If our Lord and Savoir Gaben can make the best gaming platform of all time he can simply make a new OS that makes Bill Gates look like the government stooge he is.

Arch defeats the purpose of updating whenever you want and it brakes. You have to be willing to run timeshift and maintain your disks often, even read the forums.

Sending windows people to Arch or any other rolling/bleeding is irresponsible. SteamOS is locked to avoid having idiots break their systems. by running commands they find on the internet.

>>725720898
All gaben has to do is give SteamOS a word processor and a spreadsheet manager and durgasoft would crumble. There would be no reason to ever touch binbows again.

>>725718915
It's designed for Valve's hardware specifically. The Deck and the upcoming gabecube and VR headset and I think some 3rd party handhelds are also supported. It's available for anyone to test but not officially supported, so who knows how well it'll work on your desktop PC.
I've never used it but from what I've gathered it's simplified to be normalfag-proof. It's Arch-based but updates come from Valve and are tested more extensively. The root filesystem is immutable by default so you can't fuck it up by accident. You can unlock it by entering developer mode if you want to tinker but then you're really on your own.

general steamOS when

>>725712759 (OP)
nobody cares you retarded shill

>>725712974
Can I switch to this without losing the data on my harddrive?

>>725712759 (OP)
Realistically, what will I lose out on by switching to Linux Mint?

>>725712759 (OP)
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) x86_64
Way ahead of you OP

>>725722027
Yes but It is still recommended that you coy/move all the important shit in your C drive somewhere else just in case. On one occasion M$ fucked me and deleted some files in the C drive after formatting on top of an existing W10 installation.

>>725712759 (OP)
Yeah install Arch/CachyOS already anon

>>725712759 (OP)
no i won't upgrade, steamjeet.

>>725721651
I struggle to comprehend what anons are thinking when they encourage other anons new to the ecosystem to do cachyos or worse, jump into arch raw and insisting that starting an OS from scratch is somehow a character-building exercise for your average joe. It's almost a bizarre form of gatekeeping in a way.

It should be legally mandated to start out with mint if you're a new user. Maybe fedora if you're feeling slightly more spicy. And the people recommending arch or arch variants to newcomers should seriously reconsider what they're doing, because they're sure as hell not beating the allegations that linux is some sort of broken mess and that some undefined man in the big cloud can push an update which'll brick your whole system. You should not have to keep abreast of a forum section either, just to figure out if you'll have a working OS after you push the big red button.

>>725719025
>giving gayming companies full access to your pc
based zoomer

>>725712759 (OP)
>check steam hardware survey October
>Windows 10: -1%
>Windows 11: +0.5%

Literally half of the people switching off Windows 10 did not go to 11. Microjeets are shidding themselves, especially with the new Gabecube announcement.

>>725712759 (OP)
i disliked 11 enough to become a gnomefag

>>725718915
It's Arch+KDE but with their own repo. It doesn't have anything that magically would make it better.

>>725713012
You will own nothing and you will still pay for it like you do, but you will be be happy.

>>725717227
>updating

I literally work at microsoft and I'm still using windows 10

>>725712823
it's not gay if it's a fox

>>725712759 (OP)
kys

>>725712759 (OP)
jeets really don't understand just how much of a blight on humanity they are

>>725712759 (OP)
Nope TPM and secure boot are anti-freedom and will be used to fuck end users I won't upgrade. I only use 10 for gaming anyway so I don't even care linux is my main OS which is another reason I'm not install secure boot because it will mean I need to re-setup grub.

>>725712759 (OP)
>upgrade
but they don't support windows 7, either. i already downgraded to 10 to play new games. I'm not downgrading further.

>>725722027
Look, if you are going to use ltsc, you are going to do a clean install. The installation disc is different from the classic win10 disc Microsoft provides, so you cant upgrade from your stardard win10 license (wont recognize your key anyways) nor you can format your win10 to a ltsc.
So the stardard procedure is that you backup your important files on an external drive, and then do a clean installation of win10 ltsc

>FEDORAARCHMINTGENTOOBUNTUARCHMINTDORADORAMINTBUNTUFEDORABUNTUBAZZITE
Give me, a windows refugee, as brief of a selling point of each "Relevant" distro that does not go into complete autism or political shitflinging as possible. Why would i choose one over the other or consider third purely on a functional level?

>>725724945
There's no goddamn reason to use linux unless you're a retard

>>725725046
I'm just not going to redeem windows 11, saar.

>>725724671
I am 100% sure the are planing to make onedrive an actual user folder, stored in the cloud, limited by subscription, that is why they hate local profiles

>>725712759 (OP)
>implying we'll "upgrade" to a worse OS just because someone tells us to

Couldn't pay me to get win11. Fuck off.

>>725725117
>it's either win11 or linux
go buy a mac you fucking retard

>>725724904
Massgrave found a way to upgrade ANY version of windows 10 to iot. Lots of people have done it over on /fwt/ and nobody ran into issues.

>>725721931
>general steamOS when
This is the smart move, if a serious competitor to windows is to happen, I think gaming needs to be the driving force behind it.

You can check emails on anything, you can browse the internet and shitpost on anything, most of what use to be pc specific can now be done on tablets, phones, basically any device with any OS, it doesn't require windows, so what are people doing on windows that they can't do on those other devices, the answer is gaming, and what's at the centre of that? In a lot of cases, Steam.

Steam could very easily turn it's 140 million active users into at least probably a 100 million steamOS (or whatever alternative) users very, very quickly and the userbase would snowball from there.

If I can do all the basic computer shit on *any* OS, but steamOS is better for gaming AND can do that other shit, that's what i'm using.

>>725725284
>go buy a $2500 nogames machine
LMAO

>>725712823
>Willingly fucking a fox
>The absolute gigawhores that have fucked the world
Many STDs will come to you, with love from Tajikistan

>>725712759 (OP)
I'm still on Windows 7. I'm yet to find anything worth playing that requires Windows 10.

>>725725432
yes you're that stupid

>>725725432
you mean a do fucking noting at all machine but the same programing shit that works on fucking everything else

>>725725380
Nice to hear that.

>>725712759 (OP)
I upgraded to win11 and activated it for free and removed tpm and secure boot with rufus.

https://www.makeuseof.com/rufus-bypass-tpm-secure-boot-requirements-windows-11/

activate for $0: https://massgrave.dev/#Download__How_to_use_it

now, you dont need to update to win11. but you can make it a bit better with some tinkering.

>>725725505
Does win7 support DirectX12 games? Because this is why they got discontinued from what I hear. Clair Obscur is pretty good tho

>>725725386
Steam hardware has always sucked. And their OS is a joke. They will never get any siginifant market share with it. It's the same thing that happend with steam itself. As a game distributor they got in it early and kept going and own the market with steam.
MS is the same. They pushed windows OS early, kept it going and own the market.
Nothing steam can do will get them anywhere in hardware or OS sales. Just like any other distributor like gog or Epic will do anything to steam.

>>725725625
oh, almost forgot: MANDATORY fix for the shitty new context menu, to get the old menu.

https://www.laptopmag.com/how-to/get-the-windows-10-context-menu-back-in-windows-11

>end of support
>there are still 6 years of support
Gamers are dumbasses

>>725725764
Isn't it only for the goyim who paid for the extended security program?

>>725712759 (OP)
I have an 11 LTSC laptop and it's fine, but I'm just sticking with 10 LTSC for my actual PC. I really don't see any reason to "upgrade" ever

>>725712759 (OP)
>Disable copilot so that it remains disabled even when it downloads updates
>Revert the right click menu back to W10 standard
>Disable the standard Windows shit like UAC bitching
>Use Windows 11 for a year with less problems than the people bitching about how their old crusty copy of Windows 7 isn't supported any more and they're good boys who dindu nuffin and the man is keeping them down

>>725725640
>Does win7 support DirectX12 games?
For some games yes, but not every game, the devs have to go and suck microsofts dick to get permission to do it.

Further proof that microsoft are faggots.

>>725725972
cool but it's still uglier, slower and has the retarded settings "apps" instead of the control panel and just feels like a gay mobile-like OS for normalfags than an actual PC

There was literally an update for 10ltsc today.

>>725712759 (OP)
From my IT wagie experience with w11 I rather fucking shoot myself than use that piece of shit.
Ended up moving to arch with CachyOS distro

>>725713291
It's much slower rendering basic shit like desktop folders.

>>725724945
There are no real selling points besides "it's not windows" and "it works better than you think it does and it's less broken than you think it is". If you don't think those are compelling points, then you're probably happy on windows and it's a meaningless gesture to delve into minutiae like long-term support versus rolling releases or cinnamon vs kde plasma for desktop environments or apt versus pacman for package managers.
I would put mint on a USB stick and fuck around with the live environment for a bit and if your experience is generally windows-like but with the knowledge that your OS is not spying on you or wasting system resources on stupid shit, then I'd say that's a good excuse to dual boot or switch.

>>725725380
Cheers for this, going to do it shortly. For anyone else who wants it.

https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol

>>725725669
I am honestly hoped that gay ui works fine because they killed transparency on win10 to show how better it is, and it is just a coat of paint, even worse, it hides useful things

>>725726745
needing two clicks for a right click is fucking stupid. reverting that menu is mandatory imo, why hide stuff in a submenu?

>>725712759 (OP)
already did and it's about time you do too

>desktop is an electron app
how do w11 lusers cope with this fact?

>>725724945
>Arch
Pure arch is autism, avoid. Has a dedicated wiki, but you can use it with other distros too
>Arch-based distros (EndeavorOS, CachyOS)
Probably best overall. Gives you freedom, the ability to use Arch User Repository (useful user scripts) and an easy installation
>locked down Arch (Bazzite, SteamOS)
Retard-proof, still has the advantage of Arch User Repisotory, locked down so better on shit like the Steam Deck than your desktop unless you're paranoid about fucking up
>other distros
Stable (aka slow to receive updates), no AUR, easier to use

>>725713148
What programs?

>>725724945
>Mint
If you want a jack-of-all-trades OS that's very beginner-friendly and hands-off.
>Bazzite
For a hands-off console-like experience and low-fuss gaming focus.
>CachyOS
For bleeding-edge Linux gaming performance and deeper customization/control, but you need a willingness to do some tinkering.

If you go off the beaten path:
>Avoid debian
Outdated software for the sake of stability. For gaming it's not good to have old graphics drivers
>Avoid Gnome
Shit desktop weighted down by the spergs developing it
>Avoid manjaro
Adds a layer on top of Arch which can make it break more easily. Arch forks are already done better by CachyOS and EndeavourOS

"Just buy windows 11"

F*ck off op.

I'll go buy a Nintendo before I make your
shitty spyware my only gaming system.
Your masters screwed up, live with it.

>>725725046
Sorry Rajesh guess you'll have to scam again.
Arguably windows tech support is a scam but that's a discussion for another day.

>>725722027
>Not using a drive unit to install all the "expendable" things and create others for the things you must preserve

>>725712759 (OP)
upgrade to linus/steam os

>>725712759 (OP)
I did, to SteamOS/Mint.

>>725725246
I've seen a good bit of laptops advertise the storage associated with OneDrive as actual usable storage available to the computer and a selling point at that, but they also mention that the purchase includes a 1 year subscription to Microsoft 365.
It's definitely manipulative for the uninformed/ignorant as far as I'm concerned.

>>725712759 (OP)
>yeeeeeeees goy, windows 11 is more popular than always!
>it's completely organic! it definitely has nothing to do with us pulling the plug on it
your lies are as clear as ice you disingenuous kike

>>725712759 (OP)
I won't, because I don't spend all day thinking about what my OS can do for me. I play games.
>citation needed
No.

>>725722672
I started with arch and it wasn't difficult to adapt. If you set up btrfs assistant to create backups every update even if something breaks you can just roll back in a few seconds. If you're not retarded you can start with Cachy or Arch no problem. Now, I know this is a tall order because the average normalfag is mentally challenged but those people should just stay on Windows.

>"upgrade" to w11
>windows keep replacing my AMD drivers no matter what fixes I try

>>725712759 (OP)
I don't need to, I only play vanilla minecraft

>>725736767
>using windows is more difficult than using linux in 2000+25
The future is bright.

>>725712759 (OP)
Eurochads get free updates for life tho

When it comes to tech I use personally I'm almost always in the earliest adoption wave.

>>725712974
does this need a legit license key?

>>725739580
Just use massgrave.dev

>>725712759 (OP)
why would someone without nothing to gain be so interested in me updating to windows 11?

>>725712759 (OP)
Even debloated to hell and back it's still less responsive than W10

Bane: It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Bane: No one cared who I was until I I didn't update windows 7.
CIA Agent: If I update that (your PC), would you die?
Bane: It would be extremely painful.

>>725712759 (OP)
can one of you niggers tell me why windows on my computer is trying to update again? I thought they said there weren't going to be anymore? I don't want to install it after the last one nearly killed my computer

>>725712759 (OP)
I will wait for zwelf

>>725740910
Stop using windows

>>725722308
>Realistically, what will I lose out on by switching to Linux Mint?
For Linux Mint specifically, you will lose time (possibly a day) after install for set up, drivers, fiddling with settings, etc.
But once set up you'll be 90% fine for gaming and 99% for everything else (outside of very specific use cases like Photoshop or some video editing etc, you'll be covered).
90% for gaming is apparently superior to windows 11 actually.

This all said, is seriously advocate for PopOS if you're a gamer. So many things are preloaded, it was so much easier getting into Linux with PopOS.
Gnome is the only shit part of PopOS, I'd recommend immediately disabling gnome animations and then install an extension manager to load arc menu and dash to panel, which will give you that windows 10 look and feel after a little tweaking and set up.

Windows 11 doesn't even include Voodoo 2 drivers. How are you going to play games on this shit if your card isn't even supported? Fucking goys with their goyslop. I'm glad I'm not a goy.

No point risking the upgrade going wrong when my games still work just fine.

>>725713012
oy vey
next you'll complain about the 70 year mortgages

>>725741586
Imagine being so poor you can't afford a 15 year mortgage. Guess you shouldn't have got a degree in lesbian poetry and should have got a real job.

>>725712759 (OP)
I'm taking IT classes right now in school and they taught me how to use linux so I'm not going to use Windows anymore.

>>725712759 (OP)
Upgraded to Linux. Never looking back.

Let me add as well that for you guys new to Linux and struggling, use a new os: Deepseek AI is hugely underrated for Linux terminal.
I've tried Copilot and GPT extensively, but for managing the Linux terminal, Deepseek has been unmatched.
Just don't ask it about Winnie the Pooh.

>>725712759 (OP)
I am not buying a product marketed with troons. I just know it will be bad.

Works on my machine.™

>>725736627
Dunning-Kruger anon.
Also, just because you liked Arch doesn't mean everyone will.
Does everyone like your preferred genre for gaming?
Keep this stuff in mind when discussing Linux.

>>725725640
If the game force to use dx12 yes like state of decay 2 afaik. that shit is what caused me to upgrade to 10 because of lack of dx12. But some games have workaround on dll to let it launch on 7. Also n00b like to fearmonger about security reason like whoa you're vulnerable to hacking etc if you're not upgrade your windows

>>725713148
>Hopefully nvidia drivers for Linux will be better by then.
They're better than AMD now and they have been for 10+ years.
Are you from 2012?

Just use mint or popos dude. Bazzite is a meme.

>>725722812
Use case for hating 11?

>>725742471
>Also n00b like to fearmonger about security reason like whoa you're vulnerable to hacking etc if you're not upgrade your windows
This. If you want to stay in win 10 and are afraid of "muh haxxorz" just put load what you want and put it in immutable mode.
Keep all your important files on a slave drive or an external.
It'll reset everything to what it was set at on a reboot.

>>725713291
If Bill Gates wants me to do it, then I should go out of my way to not do it.
Already added W11 as a dual boot option to try out RTX HDR (not worth it), and it sux but shockingly there absolutely are games that perform better on it, like Halo MCC and bizarrely classic Thief 1 and 2. Doom Eternal's mod manager also won't open on my W10 boot but will on W11.

>>725742553
>Use case for hating 11?
I hate poo in loo jeets

>>725717227
Literally my same reaction. I was promised this piece of shit would stop interrupting me. STOP.

>>725717227
>>725743445
>he downloaded the kill OS update
it's over for you

>>725739779
>massgrave.dev
thanks anon, appreciate it

>>725743535
It downloaded itself.

>>725729078
They don't let such thought distract them from using the best OS on the planet.

There isn't a single reason to run an out of support and inferior version of windows that cannot be summarised as being destitute and/or being retarded.
Being baited by anons (who have never substantiated why you should use older versions of windows) into to using old versions of windows is no different to being baited into microwaving your phone.

>pleased to be putting all the telemetries in your ass, saars
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 is still supported until 2027. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is still supported until 2032.

If you switched to 11, you are a gay retard.

>>725743983
Openly admitting you're too tech illiterate to administrate your PC and network isn't the own you think it is anon.

>>725744098
What are you even talking about? I put LTSC on the fucking computer with EOL in mind. I deliberately rejected 11.

>>725744516
There is no reason to use Enterprise LTSC for a gaming PC outside of a LARP which only demonstrates tech illiteracy.

>>725712974
>not LTSC Enterprise IoT
Cringe

The only reason I am running Windows at all is because Manjaro KDE in 2019 couldn't handle multi-GPU with more than 4 screens. As long as it keeps working, my LTSC install will remain. If anything stops functioning I will go back to Linux and find a way to make it work.

>>725743983
>10kek calling out 11tards

>>725744670
The reason is I don't want 11 on my computer. What exactly would I be larping? Humping your mom's junky butt? Tech illiteracy? Your logic is dogshit, shill.

>>725745012
>Your logic is dogshit, shill.
He says while completely failing to substantiate anything he's saying.

>>725713012
You gotta manually fix it and then re-pin the folders you want. Also you might have to install one drive, disable it, and then uninstall it if you cant remove the OneDrive folder.

>>725745003
Is it the year of the Loonix desktop yet, virgin?
>>725745102
You're doing the same, robot. Why should I switch when my OS is secure and yours is proven malware?

Also I removed all the telemetry shit from mine with the programs that are widely available for that purpose. You lose. Sit down.

>>725745282
>my OS is secure
>a literal NPC (sorry in case such a comparison hurts an actual videogame character) calling other people robots

>>725745282
>You're doing the same, robot.
I can give you reasons why 11 is superior, but I'm not the one gloating about using an inferior OS while completely failing to substantiate why.

>>725743948
>cpu spike
>if you notice the CPU spike, you're likely below the minimum requirements anyway

>>725712759 (OP)
I already upgraded to W11 but this is the last Windows OS I ever use. Fuck Microsoft and fuck Windows.

If SteamOS isn't fully ready and fully featured by the time W12 is around the corner, I'm moving to another Linux distro regardless.

W12 is going to be fully jeeted AIslop.

>>725743948
>I try not to let performance get in the way of my work
jesus christ. I commend his boldness but why hasn't microsoft imploded already? they're worse than IBM's OS/2 at this point

>>725745416
>reference from 2017
All the crap is removable. You can remove and deactivate anything that he's rightfully bitching about in that post. W10 Privacy remedies that.
>>725745425
>I can give you reasons why 11 is superior, but
Shut the fuck up then, shillbot. 10 Does everything I need it to. Gaming, drivers for any application, whatever. There is no good reason to switch unless you are retarded.

>>725745649
Because there's literally no alternative to Windows.

>>725712759 (OP)
What's a good distro that works with high end games in a 4070?

>>725745696
>shillbot
I'm using linux you brain damaged retard, you're the one advertising a windows product.
Reminder: You still haven't given a SINGLE reason to use Enterprise LTSC (An OS inferior to 11 Pro) over Windows 11 other than "I don't want to".

>>725745696
>SAAR DON'T BADMOUTH MY OS BLOODY

>end of support
i just got 2 security updates last night

>>725745917
I was calling the other anon shillbot, linuxtranny. You're just having a butthurt episode from lack of dilation.

You're also asking me to provide reasons why one Windows is better than the other which should make no difference to you. Also Windows 11, as an OS, is malware in itself. The telemetry on 10 can be mitigated or eliminated with various applications as I mentioned before. Now toddle off.

Windows 11 is so fucking dogshit I'm thinking of doing a fresh install of Windows 10 and dual booting Linux.
Learning that a recent W11 update broke old FMV cutscenes in games was the last straw for me. Can't even fucking play Silent Hill on this shit

>>725746302
>I was calling the other anon shillbot, linuxtranny.
????????????????????????
>You're just having a butthurt episode from lack of dilation.
I'm not sure why you're choosing to demonstrate your obsession with transexuals as some own but sure, keep allowing them to live rent free in your brain I guess.
>Also Windows 11, as an OS, is malware in itself.
So is Enterprise LTSC you shill and you are demonstrating your complete tech illiteracy by pretending 10 is any different to 11 for telemetry gathering.
Reminder: You still haven't given a SINGLE reason to use Enterprise LTSC (An OS inferior to 11 Pro) over Windows 11 other than "I don't want to".

>>725722027
reminder that this is the average /v/ poster

>>725746680
That image shows you shilling for 11. Then you claim to be a Linux user. You're sketchy as fuck. Stop replying. This exchange is over.

>>725712759 (OP)
Yes.
To Arch.

>>725747060
negative IQ award

>>725747060
I'm not shilling for anyone you actual shill (Reminder, you're the one advertising Enterprise LTSC here).
I'm making fun of yet another misinformed Windows user who is demonstrating in real time complete tech illiteracy, who cannot substantiate anything he's saying, who was baited by 4chan/youtube recommendations into using Enterprise LTSC beleiving to be safe from Microsofts nonsense.
>This exchange is over.
I accept your concession.

>>725747060
>the smartest guy still using 10

>>725744670
>gaming PC
a meme

>>725747060
>Stop replying.
Translation: STOP BULLYING ME!!! AAAAAAAAAA!!!!

>>725712759 (OP)
What's bad with Windows 11?

>>725746480
I have Windows 11 installed on the company laptop and it's utter dogshit. The few good ideas they had (tabs in file explorer, you can actually search for processes in the task manager) are not worth all the other bullshit. I'm NOT upgrading from 10. Might give CachyOS a try.

>>725717227
it will still get security updates anyway so the only reason to update to 11 is when things start breaking

I'm not updating unless I'm forced to do it. I don't give a fuck

Once I come across a game that I care about that doesn't run on W10 I'm just moving to Linux.
W11 sucks ass on my work laptop, I don't want it anywhere near my personal computer.

>>725750886
every game that's actually worth playing can run on 7 let alone 10

>>725749890
>are not worth all the other bullshit
Why can you people never ever substantiate what you mean by this. Why point out examples of positives then buckle when it comes to the bad stuff.
I genuinely believe its because it's so minor or easily avoidable, or demonstrates a lack of tech literacy that to give examples would be embarrasing.
Nodding your head to "11 Bad" is actual drone behaviour.

I'm on LTSC get fucked, not installing W11, simple as.

>>725722027
Bro I literally have one partition that is only the OS. Takes 1 hour to reinstall all my desktop stuff.

>>725712759 (OP)
i did

>>725712759 (OP)
why though? all new games are bad
there isn't a single UE5 game worth playing

>>725751928
See this entire chain: >>725746680
Gloating about LTSC demonstrates nothing but being a retard and you will be bullied out of the thread for doing it.

>>725751804
>the new right click menu sucks
>if you replace the right click menu with the old one in the registry, it sometimes hangs before it shows you the menu
>as soon as I upgraded to 11, bluetooth went completely bonkers and my headphones have various sound issues
>the fixes I found on the internet don't seem to help
>the entire system works slower, hangs more often
>I dislike the new aesthetic and the settings UI
That's just off the top of my head, I remember there were other small, annoying quirks, but my experience with Windows 11 was nothing but unpleasant.

>>725752307
Did Copilot help you write that? You are a 11 cuck and proud lmao. I will simply never create a microsoft account.

>>725752216
Wukong
Dark and Darker
E33
Satisfactory
Robocop
to name 5

>>725751804
defending this absolute garbage of an os is shill behavior though

>>725752419
Can't you disable all the filler software in the registry editor like you can on W10 to make it run better?

sure, W11 was crap in the beginning, but it works great now

>>725752631
>sure, anal sex was rough in the beginning, but I enjoy it now

>>725752518
rollslop
extractionslop
asset store slop
eh
never played it

>>725752461
>You are a 11 cuck and proud lmao.
So you didn't read the thread, thanks for confirming you are a retard with nothing of value to add.
>>725752586
At no point have I defended 11 and I'm not the one shilling LTSC. I'm making fun of tech illiterate windows users who can't articulate their issues with 11 and when they do they are embarrasingly nothingburgers like >>725752419

>>725752216
>there isn't a single UE5 game worth playing
I like Fantasy Life i

>>725752831
>the OS is slower, is more unstable and has a worse user experience
>nothingburgers

>>725752917
Substantiate that with any sort of metric anon. Do some testing on your PC and demonstate exactly what you mean by that. I can just as easily say your PC is faster on 11 and it has exactly the same value (Read: None).

>>725752917
>my pc that is getting older and older as applications demand more and more doesn't perform the same as it used to
Very inciteful.

>>725752831
>"i'm not defending it"
>jumps at whoever dares speak ill of w11
yeah, ok shill

>>725752996
You cannot quantify user experience, except through large statistical studies. And even if the overall sentiment for 11 is better, there are people (like me) who subjectively prefer 10.
This is a company laptop, I have no way to go back to 10, my IT department manages everything. I have no desire to test it on my PC when my personal experience showed me that W11 sucks ass. Besides, I'm NOT making a Microsoft account.

>>725753101
The drop in performance was noticeable right after the upgrade.

>>725753101
>you must update your PC so it could bruteforce layers upon layers of AI shit pajeets smear over it
strange how linux doesn't require regular hardware upgrades

>>725752996
>>725753101
I got a new laptop theough work that has twice the RAM and a six year newer i5 processor and it runs slower with Win11 than the old machine did with Win10. Applications take longer to open, even menus take longer to open like the Start and right click menus. The fan is constantly blowing. The login screen hangs up for several seconds at startup and visibly adjusts zoom and position and stuff before giving me control to login. It's a fucking garbage OS.

>>725725972
This sounds exactly like what some retarded shill from microsoft would cook up just to increase the users of your malware OS.

>>725712759 (OP)
I just realized that Valve is releasing their Linux PC right when Windows 10 support is ending. People wont downgrade to W11 they'll just buy a Steam Frame.

Its fucking genius

>>725753237
>>jumps at whoever dares speak ill of w11
>I'm making fun of tech illiterate windows users who can't articulate their issues with 11
Your attempt to twist this has been denied.
>ok shill
I'm not even running Windows lmao. The only shills here are LTSC retards.
>>725753263
>You cannot quantify user experience
I'm asking you to demonstate some sort of evidence exactly went worse in your experience. You're being incredibly vague and its extremely telling. Every single anti-11 poster behaves the same way.
>The drop in performance was noticeable right after the upgrade.
Again, absolutely nothing to support this at all and a completely worthless statement. I could just as easily say "11 was twice as fast when I upgraded".
>>725753415
>and it runs slower with Win11 than the old machine did with Win10. Applications take longer to open, even menus take longer to open like the Start and right click menus.
oh ok, then you should easily be able to demonstate this. Record a video, transcode to a webm and demonstate this on your machine right now. You seriously aren't so tech illiterate you can't do this, right?

steamOS as a primary for pc soon

>>725747337
This entire exchange tells you everything you need to know about LTSC users.

>>725712759 (OP)
My hardware isn't compatible with Wangblows 11, such a shame.

>>725754010
>oh ok, then you should easily be able to demonstate this. Record a video, transcode to a webm and demonstate this on your machine right now. You seriously aren't so tech illiterate you can't do this, right?
you're smoking crack if you think I would do this to prove anything to a retard on 4chan, not even considering that recording my work computer would be illegal. Fucking Indian.

>>725754010
User experience involves non-quantifiable shit like icon sizes, colour palette, location of buttons &c. It's not as bad as GNOME or Windows 8, but I hate it more than Windows 10 and KDE, and that's enough.

>>725712759 (OP)
tell me how to build a 1440p gaming pc under $1000

>>725712759 (OP)
>forced ai slop
i won't...

>>725712759 (OP)
>Win 11
>upgrade
Lol. Lmao even.

>>725712759 (OP)
I thought it was impossible to upgrade now if you didn't do it by October
Or was that just an urgency scare tactic?

>>725755967
Buy a steam machine

>>725712759 (OP)
i'm dual booting windows since just a few weeks ago.
as long as i can play slopplefield 6 on it with my buds, i'm happy.

>>725719025
>Cannot play trash
Oh my god!

>>725756332
windows 10 to be precise

>>725756267
does it only play games?

>>725712759 (OP)
My wifi symbol keeps disappearing from my win10 PC.
Will Win11 fix this?

>>725724945
Just use mint.
Everything else is for autism people that love tinkering with their shit.

>>725740818
You're an outdated guy

>Le end of service
Not my problem

I'll upgrade to Linux, or, may God forgive me, to Mac. I'm fucking done with Windows

>>725755967
Ryzen 5 1600
GTX 1060
16G DDR4 RAM
B450 motherboard
1TB sata SSD

worked fine for me in 2018

>>725745649
government enforced monopoly. America is communist now in all but name.

>>725758246
you got 1440p on the 1060?

>>725757670
You'll still upgrade to Troonix?
Traitor to the race. fUck you

>>725758371
Yes saaar, we should all redeem windows saars

So I assume linux is at 45% marketshare now, right ?

>33 years of development
>biggest opportunity for increasing marketshare by a lot
>even one of the most famous youtuber has migrated to linux
>still at 0.2% marketshare
Face it, it will never be the year of linux desktop. Even DRM vendors won't make it widely adopted and it will just stay on their DRMdeck of DRM machine, and even then I'd rather use windows than a drmized version of linux.

>>725758326
yes

>>725712759 (OP)
What makes you so upset about people using their preferred OS instead of one some shill like you is trying to force on them?
Why are you so ass bothered by it?
Is the it pay good?
What about health benefits?
Do you get some free ass pain cream or something?

>>725758371
He's a weak father for giving in to his brainwashed daughter.

>>725712759 (OP)
I don't trust that TPM shit

>>725760115
You vill enable ze spyware in your mozerboard and you vill be happy

>>725725664
>t. increasingly nervous microshit man

>>725712759 (OP)
>running 2 pc setup
>main pc has modern hardware
>secondary pc has ancient hardware
>main pc is only used for gaming and therefore has no need to upgrade to win 11 for continued security updates
>secondary pc is used for browsing the internet and could theoretically benefit from upgrading, except it doesn't meet win11's system requirements
why are they like this

>>725725669
>>725725625
>>725713263
Bless you anons

Also any other things to unfuck the Telemetry and bloat?
Rufus?
Simplewall?
Massgrave to register?

That's it? I'm still on Win8.1 with KxVex but I am tired of using the latter. I'm willing to jump on Win10 since I use it at work and know some things.

Really need to build a new PC soon... I know I'm fucked due to RAM prices but I can afford it, I'm just clueless after 10 years of not keeping up with hardware news and tech

>>725712759 (OP)
Already upgraded