Thread 725740857

Thoughts on Arc Raiders?

Pretty fun imo.

>gay rainbow and tranny colour shit
you couldn't pay me to play this slop

>>725740857 (OP)
The only people who don't like it are the friendless 4chan types. Me and some rando got attacked by 3 spiders on a night raid last night, two other dudes came by and we told them we were out of ammo, they dropped a bunch and the 4 of us destroyed all 3 spiders then got the achievement for extraction with 5 seconds left. I'll remember this interaction for a long time. It's a very fun game.

>>725740986
your brain is completely rotted if you see any kind of bright colour combination theme and instantly think of the gay lobby and get mad enough to post

TIL 80s aesthetic and retrofuturism is woke

>>725740857 (OP)
Has the event started already?

>>725740986
do you also get mad at transit maps irl?

>>725741902
yes because only poor people use public transport

>>725742049
You yanks ever say shit like this and pause for a second and wonder if maybe the problem is your country and not the concept of sharing transport

>>725740986
So mindbroken... You're worse than any retard who fell for old /b/'s shenanigans, like charging your iPhone in a microwave...
What happens if you see a naturally formed rainbow? Do you scream at random people?

Having fun with it, haven't played this week since I got sick.

Soulless cash-grab extraction slop.
I also feel like they made a cheap Forever Winter knockoff to undermine its release.

There is no PVE only mode?

>>725742238
you got a licence to criticise your betters m8

game is absolute KINO
also the devs don't get enough credit for making UE5 sing, having their own distinct art direction, and not being a stuttery mess

>>725740857 (OP)
Anon, we don't talk about good games in here

>>725740986
faggot zoomer

>>725740857 (OP)
Another FOTM slop game like Marvel Rivals. You fags will forget about this crap by January at best

>>725741623
How long is it and what do you get for participating?

>>725742734
Nope.
Game was originally designed to be PVE-only and apparently the playtesters thought it was boring as shit.

>>725742734
Solos is basically pve only.

>>725743460
no don't bully him
consider it a blessing that retarded zoomers think this aesthetic is gay coded or whatever and stay away

>>725743540
>millions of people play game and have fun with it for awhile
>"heh, idiots..."

>>725742238
>the concept of sharing transport
The USA is about avoiding the consequences of our civil rights act, aka avoiding niggers. In the USA, public transport is for niggers, so we will do ANYTHING to stay away from it.

>>725740857 (OP)
>Bold neon colored stripes in the cover make it seem like the art style will follow 80's-futeristic
>All armor and weapons just look like scavenged junk, no 80's or future theme at all
How did they drop the ball this hard

>>725742618
Forever Winter undermined itself by being completely style over substance. Somehow Arc Raiders manages to do both by having competent developers

>>725741157
And thpose not paid for by nexon, unironically. The rest is forced viral marketing

>>725740986
>sees colors
>starts thinking about men sucking dick
That's fucking crazy lmao. You can't make this shit up

>>725740986
rent free

>>725740857 (OP)
I played the test, it's totally unremarkable but polished extraction style gameplay.
It's pretty boring after a while, mainly designed to addict people to shallow retention dripfeeds thay only feel good if you suspend your disbelief and don't get tired of the trash you loot 90% of the time.

>>725740857 (OP)
It just feels like The Division's Dark Zone. I don't know how people think it's anything revolutionary.

>>725743540
>nooooo you have to play a videogame for 1000 hours you can't just get 60 hours out of it and be satisfied!

>>725745046
No one does, it just takes a format and makes it run well, look good, have unique PVE instead of humanoid dudes. The problem is its just boring

>>725745046
Kind of wish it was also like the non-PvP part of The Division as well.

>>725743567
We have to pay a resource tax as a community to gain access to the new map. New map has a heckin new legendary gun blueprint and new enemies. It'll be up until december at least.

>>725740857 (OP)
PvP doesn't sound particularly fun when the other guy who might be cheating just nullifies your progress and leaves you with nothing.
I actually enjoyed Escape From Duckov because it's a strict PvE and it's only your fault if you lose.

>>725745783
myeh part of it is just getting over it and not caring too much about losing shit
like your stash is going to be full 99% of the time anyway and everything is weirdly cheap to make

>>725740986
I thought that rainbow is more akin to ZX Spectrum.
It does look to me like inverted ZX Spectrum colors so...

>No PvE
>Forced to play with human beings on the internet
Another game I got briefly interested in before not buying

>>725740857 (OP)
played it for about 3 hours with some friends and got bored
i really hate the character designs too

>>725745783
you can literally run a free loadout and never risk anything if you want, there's no gear fear in arc cause pretty much everything has some sort of value and there's an absolute abundance of loot
plus being third person makes it inherently more casual

>>725746414
His face looks familiar.
Is it the guy who cried when he was reviewing some game?

>>725746414
I agree with him, E33 is so overrated, get fucked le baguettes... but let's be real, E33 will still win cause journo fags are the dumbest motherfuckers alive and it's all so rigged so whatever

>>725740857 (OP)
Its gay, just like me, so I like it.
But jokes aside its a GOTY from audio perspective alone. Gameplay loop is very addictive and interactive once you get a grip on it, everything kind of works as it should, I'm at a phase where I murk 2-3-4-5 players per match, full kos and triple nade extract points, its a vibe.

gamechanged is turn off crossplay on PC, its different game completely.

>>725746414
he looks like a jew but I agree with him. I don't even like Arc Raiders much but the way the media collectively nutted over that mid normalfag tier rpg made me feel sick

>>725740857 (OP)
Paid, online only game.
I will skip.

>>725742238
>be me
>live in japan
>in a major city
>”paradise” of public transport
>it’s still comfier, more convenient, and faster to drive everywhere

>>725746414
old news he called it boring now
(since he played it every day for 18 hours and ran out of things to do)

>>725746565
You're not old enough to be on this board

>>725746673
obsessed soijak poster

A game with a lot of care and polish, indubitably

BUT
It's popularity is incredibly overblown, it is not a game that deserves GOTY as many people claim

I also firmy believe that Embark should not deserve this much praise as "competent" developers given how badly mismanaged and directionless The Finals has been for the last year or so.

>>725747027
So what does that matter? Overwatch, a fucking MULTIPLAYER only game also won GOTY at the exact same game awards show. What a stupid piece of shit

>>725747012
It's actually the opposite.
I am too old to remember e-celebs.

>>725747076
hater bitch

chinkslop

>>725747076
The Finals was their first game you stupid nigger, when that game came out they only had a very small team. Embark's CEO said in an interview that they learned a ton from that launch and admitted they made a lot of mistakes and it shows with Arc Raiders, much better start already

>>725747381
Swedish people are now chinks? low IQ inbred fag right there

>just bought it
>get mission to kill 3 arc
>first player ive encountered kills me while im trying to kill the flying robot
aaaaaand refund

>>725747165
iirc they introduced the multiplayer category because that pissed off a lot of people

>>725747381
>chink
you coomers will say anything to no play 3d

Anyone play duos or squads? Does anyone stay friendly on those modes or is it all just kill on sight?

>>725740857 (OP)
I'm kinda upset because this is the game I wanted Forever Winter to be. Instead fun is stuck in one game and peak aesthetics are stuck in the other.

>>725747675
Wrong retard, Overwatch also won best multiplayer game of the year

The only thing I know about this game is that it's set in a post-apocaliptic version of Naples. For the love of God I can't understand WHY, but it seems beautiful

This game needs something to even the playing field for people who want to start friendly vs those who kill on sight. Getting the jump on someone means their death, assuming you're not a retard. Something like:
>-90% damage to Raiders who haven't damaged you
>+100% shield protection against Raiders
would be cool. I don't want to kill someone, take their loot, and waste their time. I do want to kill retards who are loot hungry or want to treat this like CS.

>>725747636
>implying you didn't buy to review bomb in the fist place

we all know your fag tactics

>>725740857 (OP)
>thoughts on generic FOTM online shooter #614643?
I don't think of it. Or any of its kind.

>>725747818
well that is pretty retarded then

>>725747165
>>725747818
why are you so angry Shroud?

Why do people always KOS on Buried City? I haven't had a positive encounter yet on that map.

>>725740857 (OP)
too stressful
every fucking moment in this game is adrenaline paranoia
its fun for awhile but not chill at all

>>725747873
Nigger, most Raiders are friendly, this is a YOU issue, open your fucking mic and talk to people and you will leave the raid most of the time with all your loot

>>725747782
just load in Dam & Spaceport during storm event and tell me its not peak aestetics

>>725740857 (OP)
Burned myself out for now
I'll wait till the new maps unlocked before jumping in properly

>>725747873
>This game needs something to even the playing field for people who want to start friendly vs those who kill on sight.
The ancient MMORPG Lineage II solved this a long time ago.
>hit a player - you temporarily enter a PvP mode (nickname becomes purple)
>kill a player who is not in a PvP mode - you become a PK (player killer), your nickname becomes red
>PK status makes you drop more items when you die, and players attacking you don't enter PvP mode
>PK status is only dropped on death

So it could be like that
>if you die normally you retain some loot
>if you die as PK you lose all loot
>PK status is dropped after death/extraction

>>725747873
Solo is not a serious game mode my man, the actual game is in party play. I know hearing that annoys you but its the truth.

Getting ambushed is not such a big deal in trios because you can recover and respond.

>>725748312
For me its buried city during a sandstorm. Goddamn this game is fucking peak kino.

>>725748203
its the smallest map meaning its fastest way for pvpers get to combat, what really you should do is once hear a player announce them you're friendly in voice chat, if within 3 second there are no response you'd know they're no friendly.

>>725748409
This is a big brain post.
>initiator of PvP gains PK flag until the next time he dies
>victim of PvP Initiation can only drop a handful of items and maybe 50/50 chance for either weapon slot

>>725748203
its cramped and multiple floors every building is cause for extreme paranoia since you are hearing rats scurrying everywhere

high stress + surprise = kos

I just chat in voice and use emotes to announce when I'm in a building. If they dont emote back or dont talk to me I murder them.

>>725748521
for me buried city is peak too, just sorta adapting my answer to what normalfags usually like, game is all around stunning but desert mad max like aestetics are peak.

t. same anon

>>725748284
No, it's not. It's a nigger issue. In fact, I began typing this response, found a game, and experienced it again. 95% of my interactions are positive and friendly, but there's always a faggot who will just start unloading on you after you tell them "Don't shoot!" because they know your gun is holstered and they have the advantage that will guarantee them your loot. An augment or shield designed to protect the player from ambushes will removing their ability to do the same solves that.

>>725740857 (OP)
It's alright. It has a nice aesthetic, great maps and challenging NPC enemies, but at its core it's just another extraction shooter. It's not doing anything different. Ease of access and incredibly quick queue times are my takeaways, but I only got about 50ish hours out of it before getting bored. If you haven't played extraction shooters before, it'll be amazing, but if you've already played the shit out of Tarkov like I have, AR will feel shallow.

>>725746973
Tokyo should ban cars, close most roads and just have bus lanes and more rail lines and make it appealing to walk instead by using old road space and investing in more public toilets, bins and trees. Maybe then Japanese people would suffer less from respiritory issues, depression and sexual dysfunction.

>>725748409
That would good solution. Killing those who kill friendlies is fun, but if you happen upon a scene too late, you don't have any way to tell who was at fault. That solves that too.

>>725749040
talk to him like a real person, not with your stupid AI voice emote wheel, dumbass. This emote shit makes people even more angry

>>725747387
Well, their first released game anyway.

Technically they started Arc Raiders first; The Finals was a secondary side-project which was pushed to the front after they decided to retool their PVE-onry piece of shit into the PVPVE game it is today.

>>725749437
I know that nigger but my point still stands

>>725749340
>This emote shit makes people even more angry
Sounds like you're exactly the type of player I'm talking about, because in over 40 hours of play, most people respond positively to it.

>>725749040
>An augment or shield designed to protect the player from ambushes will removing their ability to do the same solves that.


Tactical Mk. 2 retard, but it wont save your pve ass, because in roder to bet good at pvp you need to think at split second that comes with experience and non gayness.

>>725748409
if you want change, post this on the arc raiders reddit or their discord, devs watch those places with hawk eyes

>>725745406
Nah that would ruin what it's trying to do. The pvp zones would just be KOSfags, no diplomacy or community.

>>725745783
This game manages gear fear pretty well, there's very few items you'll panic about

Shilled slop. Buy an ad.

>>725749676
I'm not one of those, I'm friendly all the time but I know AI in general makes people mad

watching a boomer streamer and every person he encounters is friendly
he met 10+ people in a round and non shot at him
makes a change from marathon where theres no concept of friendlies and not. every single person kills on sight
i bet bungie are reeling from how much better arc raiders seems to be

woke+extraction slop

>>725749973
here is bought it and here is this thread, problem?

>>725746842
>turn off crossplay
I play solo and I have noticed that every time someone acts like a nigger (shoots you in the back as you're calling the elevator for both of you) it's a console player.

>>725744457
Fixed

>>725749698
If you're good at PvP, you're going to win an ambush situation. You're not going to start it when they'll have a chance to recover. I'm playing this specifically because it's not purely PvP. If I wanted death match, I'd just go play that. You'd have to be brain dead to enjoy modern single-life-per-round shooters.

>hear some faggot making tons of noise fighting bots
>sneak up on his ass and unload my Venerator point blank
Keep quiet if you want to live, Anons.

>>725740857 (OP)
Mid
https://litter.catbox.moe/9lu5j3p6g7gfgh5a.mp4

>If you're good at PvP, you're going to win an ambush situation
lol

>>725751470
>lol
You just proved it with your webm?

>>725742238
You ever say shit like this and then wonder why you're not sharing public housing

>>725746414
>the guy who get pay by the game
>say the game is the best
>hmmmm

Daily Reminder this game will slowly go under. When this ecelebs stop getting pay.
Its crazy how much money they put in this shit game to schill it. They literally had Ads on UFC events on the ring and shit that probably cost them million.

It's a shitty Tarkov
>items all take up the same inventory space
>fortnite loot rarity colors on every single item
>generic sci fi icons
>generic sci fi guns
>all the cool tactical rigs and armor you see can't be looted because they paid real money
Just play Tarkov

>>725740986
Never saw pre-90's tech?

>>725742734
Just play Generation Zero.

>>725752165
Tarkov is for hackers and browns, but I repeat myself

If it were 20 bucks or less, sure, worth it for a weekend or playing with friends
as it stands, 40 bucks, hell no

the discourse is also way too positivley toxic, nobody admits any sort of fault about the game, this is a litmus test that something isn't quite right about the game

>>725740857 (OP)
Tarkov without most of the shit that makes it interesting like BHS and the black market.

>>725752165
You lost, Slatan.

>ask a guy if he wants to extract together
>get no response
>he pulls out gun and shoots me
>I retaliate and down him
>he cusses me out
what causes a nigga to be like this?

>>725751809
All he had to do was shoot me while I was running and I would've died
But instead Mr Redditor was a heckin wholesome friendly and gave me his stuff!

>>725752458
Yeah the people sucking this game off are just really bad at vidya. The hit detection with the shit latency is a real killjoy but the shitters just eat it up cause they're so used to getting bodied + they can team and be faggots in solos

After playing for awhile:
Blueprints and loot tables are fucked.
Theres free and excessive trash loot and you have to grind to skill into breach security lockers to find blueprints at a decent rate and that rate is still trash.

Every map is people rushing security lockers to farm blueprints. Massive gankfest.

Grey weapons are too strong. Tons of weapons are shit vs people.

>>725752813
>hit detection with the shit latency
Anon, the bullets just have travel time.

>>725752165
I'd rather play neither

>>725752918
They're probably talking about people killing you despite being hidden behind walls, seen a few fucked up vids about that.

>>725752703
the same reason for PvP faggots that camp a roof and wait to hear footsteps below, then ambush like the pussy camping faggots they are

Why do so many people whine when I shoot them? Never seen this in other shooters.

>>725748284
40% of the population has personally executed at least 10 downed raiders. Does your blogpost come with any citations?

>>725752703
just enjoy taking down a retard, you'll never understand what the fuck is happening in their reptile brains

>>725740857 (OP)
I see the cover art with those neat color accents and then I watch gameplay and it's just another brownslop shooter, like where even is the correlation?

>>725753061
they already fixed it cause embark is based and don't fuck around

>>725753253
Are you a campfag

I am once again calling on the devs to buff Hairpin headshot damage multiplier
I just want to Sam Fisher some cunts

>>725753715
hopefully this is a proper fix cause even just killing arc there was SIGNIFICANT delay between shots and them landing and the arc reacting
like half a second, it was fucking bad

>>725751470
I have to say this is the most low brow gameplay Ive seen so far
>extract camp
>miss shooting someone in the back
>have to wait for them to get on the console to hit shots
>get bent by the rocketeer that you saw, because you had to loot right away due to serotonin starvation
>All he had to do was shoot me while I was running and I would've died
If he was a KoS knuckledragger and ignored you pissing yourself and spamming dont shoot he would have maybe

if you like h1z1, pubg, tarkov.

You'll enjoy this game, trust me. Aside from that technology they use for ingame NPC is on another level, sound design, and maps are large, I'd say single biggest map is on a scale of entire tarkov game, and there are 4 maps(5 about to come out), so if you like learning and make new routes to fit your gameplay, it hits perfect spot.

to me it kinda check all boxes because I'm into post-apo sci-fi.

>>725752703
I'm willing to bet it was a console player.

>>725753715
Still happens btw

>>725753915
When did I say "don't shoot" retardbro? Also yes, when you get the jump on someone they die, that's how this game works for solos

too many players per map and too much mid-raid lobby re-fill

>>725740857 (OP)
>installed
>'want' to link up your whatever account?
>uninstalled

>>725740857 (OP)
>newsletter
>youtube video preview of upcoming content
>twitch event
>highly organic 4chan /v/ thread
curious!

>>725740986
utterly mindbroken

>>725753919
ironically my #1 downside for this game is that it's an extraction shooter.
even a fucking battle royale would make it more fun. it's a really well made game but extraction is such a shit, unfun genre

>>725752871
they nerfed lockers in todays update

Im interested but i only play solo

Was just running around with a free kit after dying a bunch of times from being retarded. Some bot saw me and started raising an alarm only for some dude to snipe it out of the sky and save my ass.

>>725753914
You're in luck, they also fixed that

>>725740857 (OP)
Fashionfags, we won

>>725748409
I love seeing you numbnuts coming up with elaborate schemes to punish someone that buckbroke you. Dont trust anyone Solo, shoot on sight as a squad. Its that simple. Also, dont spam hullcracker on a bastion for 2 minutes like a retard, Im just going to kill you, take your hullcracker and the bastion loot.

>>725755519
kek the way that's worded seems kinda sus no?
surely if they'd fixed the root cause they'd just say "fixed network issues causing perceived desync in engagements between arc and other players
not convinced yet, i'll have to play for a bit and see how it feels

so what's the deal with the matriarch? is it actually bigger than a queen?
and we won't see the shredder until we finish this event and get the new map?

>>725755804
>admitting you're a nigger
Shameless!

>>725755885
network play inherently has delay because the Internet isn't instant. but if they just make the game locally show your bullet hit the drone and then worry about showing the impact for other players slightly after instead of at the same time it will be much better

>>725755747
the skins are so fucking ass in this game
only good one is the deluxe preorder bonus g suit and the fighter pilot one

>>725756046
cowboy is fine too, even if I hate the arm thing

>>725755747
unless its a mad max style skin i shant be buying

>>725756023
of course it does but any game with pvp that has delay of 1/3 to 1/2 a second is doomed
if you're gonna make a multiplayer game you need to shell out for good servers

>>725740857 (OP)
FOTM slop with extraction mechanics that have no goal or purpose. The game play is shoot robots that fly around and then loot storage lockers and get killed by extraction campers and players with free loadouts going on suicide runs to kill you. Extraction games have a bad gameplay loop that attracts people with bad mentalities. If you want an extraction game for the rpg elements play a looter shooter. If you want an extraction game for the pvp play a battle royale. Streamers are the only reason this game is even being talked about.

>>725753349
60% is the majority fucking retard

>>725756201
reminder that cod warzone launched with 12 hz servers and now they are up to ~18 hz
arc is probably in that same range.
CS2 still has this same problem where the player and server might see slightly different things. they even have an option to try and predict the hits on the frame you shoot or you can have the game display only what the server sees but hit reactions might be delayed slightly.

>>725752452
Weird because the developers are Whiter than you

>>725752643
A scav junkbox full of cigarettes has more soul than the entire game

>>725754339
A lot of people suck so bad you can turn an encounter pretty easily. Just take them to a choke point and throw a single nade to burn their shields out. Or, just run. After a while they'll just get tired and leave you alone

>>725740857 (OP)
I'm about 5 hours in, and I want a refund.
The loot system is total shit, everyone always kos, random teammates don't even help you if you run into an enemy.
What am I doing all this lootin & scootin for exactly, if shooting is not even fun?

Glad I only paid like 25 bucks for this shit but I'm sad I can't refund.

>>725756485
my statement goes for cod and every other mp game
there is literally no excuse for these multimillion and billion dollar companies to keep using dogshit servers
stop making excuses for them
60 hz should be bare minimum for any mp game

>>725741157
>Plays Pvpve game as coop friendslop
disgusting

>>725740986
the design is obviously inspired by subway maps in which various "lines" are represented by colors. you would have a chance of making this connection if you had any life experience / had ever visited a real city
stop posting, now

>>725756012
Better a nigger than a bitch that nags at devs for a hugbox.

>>725756845
I mean yeah I want better servers too but CS still has the problem at 64 hz. Even the fancy 128 hz servers have the same problem just to a slightly lesser degree.

as long as they are working on improving it I'm happy. won't ever be perfect unfortunately

>>725740986
The Rainbow is a symbol of peace/promise of eternal human existence, not a banner of Sodom. We are reclaiming it.

>>725740986
alright, here's your (you)

>>725740857 (OP)
>400ms delay on every action
>rubberband netcode
>every enemy is a generic drone
>looting is boring
>instant TTK
>0 depth
>nearly 0 customization options
>$20+ UE5 marketplace asset skins
>home base is a bunch of menus not a physical place
>no environment destruction
>bosses are 10x size drones
>characters and audio are ai generated and it shows
Refunded and bought Astlibra instead. What a piece of shit this game turned out to be.

>>725757059
The LGBT rainbow is actually missing a color from the real rainbow. The founder of LGBT is jewish by the way.

>>725756759
That's true but I talking about the situation you can find yourself like in my clip where you get caught out in the open. I do lots of trap plays at choke points and hell I even got my first gg from someone that got baited into it when he had me on the run.

>>725757248
being gay has a founder?

>>725757935
Did I say being gay? What do you think the LGBT movement is? Do you think it just always existed? It started in 1950 by Harry Hay. Come on dude how low is your IQ? Even liberal faggots can agree on what a movement is

Normiecattle slop game

>>725756549
And the playerbase is filled with niggers, just absolutely subhuman people, only those who never reached the light of God

>>725758303
>>725758004

>>725758101
>heeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy simmer down
>sorry!

>>725740857 (OP)
Okay game made horrible with a terrible crafting system designed to waste your time making every time you die a horrible exercise of inventory management for no fucking reason
Best described as obtuse.

>>725749174
this is what pro public transport arguments always end up at, you just want to force shit to suck for everyone because you're a bad person

>>725744080
The hilarious irony in your statement, saying that zoomers are braindead for thinking rainbow means faggot, when the very term you use to describe faggots, "gay", was stolen in the exact same manner by them. You are exactly what you're shaming.

>>725758945
>waste your time making every time you die
does not happen to me

>>725759242
>just play like a pussy so you don't have to engage with the inventory and crafting system

It's another flavor of friendslop. Everyone i meet is KOS now even in solos and if a nigger decides to unload on you with a lvl 1 stitcher you're fucked 90% of the time

>>725759340
The game is a prisoner's dilemma simulator

>>725759340
This happened to me being unable to get off two shotgun shots because he had cover too. Now I just run stitcher lol why bother with anything more expensive.

>>725740857 (OP)
It'll have the same fate as any other console extraction game, the two sides will ruin the whole thing as they overcompensate and force it to be a lame destiny clone, or tdm focused on shooting people in the back. Neither side will admit the only fun part of these games is the other side existing and will do everything they can to drive the other away. The mxt's keeping it afloat are absurd and the faggots who start every conversation with "as a Tarkov player" will leave for the next game because a TPS will never rrach their level of "competitiveness". Other than that, the game looks nice, plays okay and is literally the same gameplay loop and motivatiom as every other extraction shooter except the screwdrivers needed to upgrade your crafting bench are now called Arc cores or whatever.

>>725758215
or you can just play the game

Are the battlepass fomo shit or like helldivers 2?

>>725759903
The gimmick is PVE vs robots, the solution is obvious: focus on high quality PVE with more robots that require cooperation to extract from the map after looting -- treat the game like Fortnite where you have a free for all loot scramble and the map gets increasingly more difficult with better loot drops over time until everyone is forced to extract from a single remaining extraction point. Then add a shitty PVP mode for people who like being shot in the back.

>>725755747
Give me a dirty, scrap stormtroper.

>>725759903
>have fun looting, shooting bots, talking to people into helping me or trading, and offering to help with quests
>I also enjoy sneaking up on people and testing to see if they pull an absolute nigger move only for me to down them anyway
>if anyone gets the drop on me and doesn't immediately holster their weapon or speak it's KOS
>if I get downed it's my fault for not assessing the situation properly
What now, faggot?

>>725760128
>add pve mode
>people still toss the bot targeting nades and get (You) killed
>loot your corpse for the cause
>fun right :^)

>open game
>donate 300 random shit crafting items
>get 900 merit
>close game
see you guys in a few days when the actual content is available

>>725760515
PVE would mean no PVP damage you retard. The game would be solely a loot scramble and then forced cooperative if you want to good loot as the game goes from GTA style 1-start robots to 5-star swarm with mega robots.

>>725760315
>talking to people into helping me or trading, and offering to help with quests
Based. I do the same thing. Then I tell them my inventory is full and shoot then in the back while they loot.

Raider bros. I’m level 25 and I’ve found 3 blueprints so far. Why am i not finding these damn things?!?

..stella montis... home...

>>725760629
You didn't get his point that there's other ways to get people killed without you being able to kill them or get them off your ass.

>>725760629
>no PVP damage
Throwing a nade that attracts ARC swarms to your position isn't PvP damage, retard. It's already in the game.

>>725760629
stop trying to talk your retard shit about changing the game when you've clearly never played the game you dumb fuck

>>725760706
Locked rooms and random. Green, flat weapon locker spawns are pretty consistant in blueprints as well.

>>725760706
Are they rare? I started last night and found one for some pistol called a venetor. I can't even build it since it needs a bigger bench.

>>725760660
I have never trusted someone enough to loot in their presence. If I team up it's purely quest or feat stuff and I constantly watch their aim in peripheral vision.

>>725760741
>>725760745
>there are other ways to troll and grief in the game
Okay I don't care. The game isn't fun right now when you can be shot in the back at any time if you engage in any mechanic besides PVP. They have a choice: PVE and make it fun or PVP and remove the shitty loot, crafting and inventory system.

>>725760315
>agreeing with me
Sorry about the retardation anon, good news is arc raiders has a basement level entry level for skill and a low skill ceiling so you'll be okay

>>725760894
>The game isn't fun
then don't play it you fucking sperg

>>725760954
I won't, enjoy the burn out as the player base is reserved to only free loadouts doing PVP only

>>725740857 (OP)
Everything I've seen of this game looks extremely boring.

>>725761017
>if I don't like it, no body can!
ok. fuck off.

>>725760894
>trust someone to help you shoot stuff for feats and quests
>watch them to see if they aim at you
>don't loot or ever turn your back to them
>if a person enters an interior and doesn't immediately holster their gun, turn their back to you, and or speak then you shoot them
It's not that hard, you just hate dealing with other people in a multiplayer game. If it was co-op only you can just pretend the other players are NPCs.

>>725761079
actually most people don't like the PVP, you can see it everywhere but there's a very vocal PVP-nigger crowd that like the sandcastle stomping

Anon in another thread posted this. If you want to rat use the stitcher. This was a free kit dude scaring the fuck out of the anon and almost killing him in 1 clip despite his shield.

>>725761127
that's cute but they can shoot you in the back while you're moving across the map, I know this because I do this to people all the time, wait until they engage with a bot or start looting, shoot them in the head

>>725761162
>source: your ever-widening ass
play Helldivers or darktide or DRG or fucking anything else and stop insisting the game change to your whims. faggot.

>>725760128
Then it dies in less than a year when everyone has purple/yellow gear and only meme bots to fight. The arc isn't a threat outside of third partying or catching a stubborn retard with their pants down who refuses to retreat. You can out range and kite all of them. Healing supplies are cheap and readily available. You're asking for them to undo all the the changea they made when they moved from pve to pvpve and make a different game. Just play a different game.

>>725760904
>muh skill
we get it, you're miserable watching people interact in ways you can't understand and make up excuses that the game is rigged since you can't into basic social interaction.

>>725761301
It dies in a year because it will be replaced by another more fun PVP game. The problem is Games as a Service model trying to keep players for a century.

>>725761162
The current problem is that the enemies are kinda flaccid if you take away the threat of pvp. They don't even kill you while downed so you can crawl to the exit sometimes. It would need a ton of changes to make a PvE mode not be boring as fuck.

>>725761218
loot tiers are too even, I don't feel a difference at all between blue and purple shields and they're way too many free kit rats being too successful being kamikaze faggots

>>725761241
>while you're moving across the map
So can ARCs retard. Funny how you can react the same way: Hiding or shooting back instead of being offended.

>>725761442
I can strawman bad faith your argument too by reverse UNO.

>>725761450
>I don't feel a difference at all between blue and purple shields
it's the difference between 2 shots or 3 shots with a ferro. that's a noticable difference

>>725761241
no because I'm not an idiot running across open fields, I have literally never died to sniping

>>725761451
Can you at least pretend you're not a disingenuous faggot for a second? I gave you a direct refutation of the retarded assertion that you only get shot in the back by people in the same room as you.

>>725747305
i really dont think this game would do well with just a pve only mode cause it already takes a decent amount of effort to take down some of the weaker arc's without 4 more being right on your ass in certain areas

>>725761218
$40 for this garbage? Yeah, no.

>>725761442
>enemies are kinda flaccid
t. someone who has never tried to solo a Leaper or Queen without spamming Wolfpacks or Hullcrackers.

>>725761569
The map is a giant room. Keep looking around and taking cover occasionally instead of turning your brain off to run out in the open like a retard.

>>725761661
NTA but you can solo a leaper with a single flame made a 2 sticky nades. If you have a single fucking tree or pole between you and it, it cannot hurt you unless you are a genuine tard.

>>725747027
Multiplayer-only live-service games should be disqualified from winning GOTY. Ephemeral as they are, they'll become unplayable eventually, either getting some awful patches, or the community simply moves on, or the servers literally die. Why give that a place in a hall of fame?

>>725761339
I think you're shouting at the people in your walls again anon. I'm not particularly skilled at this game, that said, in your own spergout half the interactions are only possible because pvp is an option. Like I said in my original post, you and the tdm niggers are literally too stupid to see how extraction game ecosystems work and will simply move onto the next slop with an aesthetic that clicks after this one is no longer the fotm. Best of luck seeing everything there is in the game for you by the ejs of the year, or not man

>>725761787
Can you at least pretend you're not a disingenuous faggot for a second?

no anon, im in my 30s so I don't play slop made for third worlders or children

>>725761661
Leapers are very easy since they're helpless if they can't reach you inside a building, Bombardiers and Rocketeers are mean mofos though.

>>725761661
The point is that you can just walk away from most enemies unless you somehow get caught entirely out in the open like a retard. Most of them can't get around objects very well.
I think PVE could be cool but not as it is right now.

>>725761930
There is only two ways to play this game: stealth pack rat that avoids every player encounter or TDM KOS player hunting, any other play option rewards investment is random deaths.

>>725761823
If I wanted a challenging experience I wouldn't be playing a game with fast shooting guns and high powered explosives at my disposal ,now would I?

>>725762147
so are you saying it's easy or hard to solo a leaper you fucking retard? Or did you reply to the wrong post

Anyone else have trouble with sound direction? I hear loud rotors or rockets landing and literally can't find them based on their sound.

>>725759915
retard

guys Helldivers needs a PVP mode it would be really cool and the game will die in 2 weeks without it

>>725762324
go play helldivers you shitter

>>725761392
If people wanted a pvp game they already exist with price points ranging from f2p all the way up to $120 AAAA milking stalls. People play pvpve games to ambush and rp as psychos, rats and nice guys. The entire genre exists by ifferinf the pve guys difficulty in the form of players and the pvp guys fun in the form of easy marks. It's all done this way because BR and extraction games represent a great ROI for companies in the form of creating a sandbox and letting the players figure out the gameplay for them.

>>725762324
Helldivers with PVP is like this game with PVP, game mechanics fighting itself and everyone with a brain can see this game becoming more and more KOS every day.

>>725762324
>why don't they add stealth to DOOM I don't like constantly shooting things and every enemy aggrod on me, i want to assassinate the demons instead

>>725762408
I believe it is a satirical comparison. Friendly fire!

>>725762480
Too bad for this game because Tarkov is a better extraction shooter then, this game has the PVE appeal but PVP ruins it which makes it just a worst Tarkov because it baits carebears.

>>725762528
>what if you could talk to these creatures?

>>725762635
tarkov isn't even a real game

>>725762696
Neither is this one when you realize how shallow it is. It's basically a really bad Minecraft crafting modpack.

>>725762080
Nah solos was a "Don't shoot" simulator for awhile where people would sprint everwhere amd get in long drawn out engagements with arc without fear of getting shot. Not so much now that they've reached comfortable levels with their benches and realized the handful of guns are really only useful shooting other players.

>>725762896
So this is just a bad PVP game where the devs wasted time on a PVE game that isn't fun.

>>725762790
>muh "no true Scotsman" fallacy
You could've brought up Hunt: Showdown but no, you picked the literal Russian Scam Simulator instead.

>>725762538
based kuroeda enjoyer

>>725762975
>that isn't fun
Subjective bias.

>>725762980
Funny because the assertion was ARC is a really bad Minecraft modpack where someone thought recycling is a real game mechanic.

>>725762991
Extraction Shooter where I can rape big booty choco elf players when?

Let me spell it out for you dumb fuck retards
This game would not work as a pvp game because the pvp is dogshit, it's a casual as fuck third person shooter and the gunplay isn't particularly good
This game would not work as a pve game because there isn't anything that sets it apart or makes the combat particularly interesting, and it was literally developed as a pve game that they had to add pvp to because it wasn't fun
ARC could only work as a singleplayer narative driven campaign, or as a pvpve extraction shooter
Guess which makes more money?
Now shut the fuck up with your dogshit opinions that mean nothing and play the game or fuck off and play something else you faggot niggers

>>725763139
never sadly

>>725762635
>as a tarkov player
There it is. Last I checked tarkov is still up and running despite Nikita's best attempts. If you mongs are going to continue to compare every game that has a gun in it to Tarkov you might as well keep playing that game instead of getting mad all the time. This game wanted console money, because they're all cash grabs at heart, and no way in hell is anyone going to deal with Tarkov's inventory/looting system on a console in a genre built around ambushing people when they're vulnerable.

>>725763207
Feel free to leave the thread anytime you like, faggot.

>>725763325
that's rich coming from a retard who does nothing but bitch and moan how the game should fundamentally change

>>725762975
Welcome to extraction shooters. PvP is just jerking yourself off over onesides victories and PvE is free loot boxes that other people can steal

>>725763325
get fucked faggot imagine coming to a thread about a game you don't play to bitch about why to don't play it
go back to jerking it to anime you cuck

isn't this just fotm streamer slop?

>>725764374
It's true. Streamers are playing it so don't bother.

>>725763139
You kid but I really want to rape downed female players in games and we'll never get it.

>>725764792
God damn it. This happens every time I want to try a game only to find out streamers play it and now I can't. Fuck those guys

>>725764874
How about one where you build up a cyborg or full gynoid companion that you can show off to other players in a hub safe zone?

>>725740857 (OP)
Its literally just Tarkov. I don't get why anybody is giving this any attention.

>>725764374
No, that would be Dispatch.

>>725766440
Right cuz 7/10 runs in Tarkov have friendly players in them right?

>>725766352
Blam! Extract shooter kino when as well?

Aside from that patch notes say they reduced character movement latency for the "desync" problem. Everyone go get into fights and test if that shit is fixed now.

>>725747636
based

>>725766609
I actually can't tell if you're being intentionally retarded or not. If so, good job. If not, kys. Its literally just Tarkov. It even has the same aesthetic.

>>725766610
>get visit multiple levels of Mega Structure each with their own ecosystem of enemies and a hub settlement
>customize your gynoid companion to play fire support medic, long-range overwatch, or armoured frontline
>she comes with a random personality that can be swapped out later using a crafted core
>only time other players can see her is in the safe zone hub areas
>she joins you in solo or duo co-op PvE runs

>>725758378
The light of God is in everyone dumb kike golem.

>>725766872
Here's your last (You) :^)

>>725767101
>this game that looks and plays just like Tarkov is like Tarkov
>noooooo that's offensive to us gaymers noooo stop this stop it now

>>725760872
That's a good one. It would be worth farming the mats to make plenty

>>725763498
>go back to jerking it to anime
Why are you threatening him with a good time? Retard

What does durability actually do? Does the item break at 0% or something else? The repair cost seems to be flat.

>>725740857 (OP)
last time i fell for the meme shooter hype was battlebit

>killed first person
>it was a canadian furry
guess i dont have to feel bad any more

>hear rockets going off
>go to it
>see 4 faggots teaming the queen
>one of them is named aqua, prob a pajeet
Clown ass game
https://litter.catbox.moe/ieloojk8aipoar3r.mp4

>>725770751
>ran away like a bitch instead of fighting to the death

>solo raid
>blue gate
>night raid
>looter mk2, light shield, hairpin, lure grenades
yep, it's gaming time

Its literally a walking and collecting junk simulator for like 20 mins out of the match, people think thats fun?

Queen sucks ass, but Matriarch is actually some real shit.

>>725740857 (OP)
Jackfrags and shroud loved it. It's definitely goty.

>>725754339
>the element of surprise is the most important thing
NO WAY HOLY SHIT LOOK AT SUN TZU OVER HERE
That rocketeer definitely had the element of surprise on your dumbass. Get fucked by a literal bot.

>>725771491
>Matriarch is actually some real shit
isn't it bugged and not in the game yet?
literally not real kek

>>725740857 (OP)
Honestly think it might be GOTY material, probably competing against Expedition 33 & Silksong.

It's riding the hypewave of "friendslop" that has been really popular the last few years (Amogus, lethal company, R.E.P.O., Peak) but actually has a decent amount of budget and scale behind it. It's a shooter which is arguably the most popular gaming genre. It capitalises on scary multiplayer moments which is absolute gold dust for content creators. People seem to love this fallout-esque post apocalyptic "salvaging rusty loot and shooting people with pipe guns" aesthetic

Its a very effective blend of different things that comes together in a very fun little package. Also the music slaps. I dont know much about music, but it sounds vaguely like electronic 80s music, am I on the money?

>>725740857 (OP)
hyper-astroturfed slop for streamers. Tarkov is better in every way.

Wow the character customization is really shit isn't it? You can't even mix and match.

>>725743928
...With the underlying fear that your "fellow" players might shoot you in the back of the head and take your shit

>>725761868
Every game becomes unplayable eventually

>>725742238
Rich people in bongistan don't use public transit, retard. He's not wrong.

>>725771838
Its on Dam literally right now. Got 4 cores, and dropped one for some dude too. I assume the blueprint for the weapon isn't in the game yet.

>>725771428
There is a certain "junk looter goblin" instinct that we just don't get to satisfy in our daily lives. A weirdly specific itch that the game just scratches

>>725772364
sweet it was supposed to be on blue gate earlier but never spawned so i assumed it was still bugged
how is it compared to the queen? can you solo it

I enjoy the game a lot but damn I wish the human designs and art style weren't so fucking soulless and generic, the skins suck too, no one is going to buy that shit

>>725772637
old man with receding hairline is the only good aesthetic

>>725772529
Except for that whole anti-hoarder mechanic that punishes you for collecting.

>>725772637
Considering the game is going to lean on cosmetics a lot going forward to sell the raider decks, I imagine we're gonna get cooler stuff later on. The stuff we're getting now is from a free battle pass remember and all the unlocks are likely functional holdovers from beta.

Once they release the first proper season with a paid Raider Deck, they'll have to put some tastier cosmetic upgrades in it to lure people in

>>725772335
>people still playing DOS games right now
Maybe if your game requires an internet connection so they can nickel-and-dime you on microtransactions zoomer

Why do I have to donate 5 at a time when I have hundreds of materials to donate.

>>725773067
1 handful at a time

>>725772867
If what they start the game with is uninspired trash you're coping quite hard that the future will be better, it's always, always worse and at best you'll only see cool stuff locked behind $50 paywalls.

>>725772775
>Anti-hoarder mechanic

What one? Inventory space or losing loot on death?

>>725772893
I meant when we die anon

>>725773256
Stack size (extreme)
Inventory space (major)
Losing loot on death (minor)

This game has some of the worst inventory I've ever seen in a game that expects you to recycle and craft from junk.

>>725773410
What do you actually want? to carry 100 items in your backpack and fill your 2500 slot inventory with every item in the game? and then instantly complete every mission as it appears and say the game is short? what is it you want, and why aren't you looking for it elsewhere?

>>725771428
You stop collecting junk after like 2 hours playing and you realize loot is highly situational and locational, the progress the game puts you through is about finding specific goals rather than amassing generic net worth.

>>725743902
The playtesters being Chinese, you mean. If there’s no way to cheat out another person with better gear gained through grind the Chinese aren’t interested

>>725773410
>Stack Size
Agreed its annoying but I understand why. Its to encourage you NOT to hoard and instead actually craft shit. If you could just hoard en masse the tension of losing your gear on a raid is far lessened because you have x999999 of everything back in base anyway
>Inventory space
Again, same logic. And its got some nice progression by upgrading it with cash
>Losing loot on death
Core part of the loop. Creates the tension, the fear, makes people play and react in a way they wouldnt otherwise.

>>725772562
>solo
Even with an inventory of wolfpacks or launcher ammo I can't see one person doing it.
Queen does
>laser beam, easy to deal with
>three aerial blaze nades, no issues
That is basically it
Matriarch
>spawns tons of flying enemies, a bastion and a leaper and respawns after several minutes if you kill them
>shoots out a ton of flashbacks at people who recently damaged her
>aerial gas grenades that linger a long time to drain stamina
>super fast rocket barrages
>and a forcefield that prevents anything from damaging her for a period of time
Its a long ass fight in comparison. Obviously 10 hullcrackers is ripping that shit

honestly kind of wish there would be more weapons as loot

>>725773550
I want the game to not be fucking tedious where it hides it's completely shallow game mechanics with a layer of anti-QOL inventory management that requires a Wiki because it's completely obtuse about what's valuable, what will be required later in a quest (punishing people who recycle), and what's complete junk (regardless of rarity). If you think limited inventory and stack size is a good idea you're an idiot who doesn't know what is fun and what is wasting your time. When we play games, we maximize activities that are fun and minimize activities which aren't, in case you missed the memo on what makes things entertaining.

I said don't shoot, why do they shoot?
I didn't even shoot back.

>>725774015
Are you people capable of not strawmanning, there is a line between a stack size of 3 and stack size of 99999. Further, if you game is designed contrived hunting for artificially scare loot that you're artificially forced to rotate stock of in your imaginary base, you have a shitty game. We know this because people gain meta knowledge of what items are actually good and should never be recycled and what items are actually bad and should never be looted.

>>725774169
this is the first extraction shooter where I have not needed a wiki a single time. that's one of the only things they do better than their contemporaries in the genre.
All of these points of friction are just to encourage you actually go out on raids and engage with the gameplay. It pushes you to specific points of interest and to fight specific enemies more than one time and then living off your stock forever after.

If you find that tedious, extraction shooter just isn't a genre for you

>>725774169
I think these people who enjoy this shit have autism or something.

>>725774390
yes and items have varying stack sizes. having 10 wolfpacks in a single slot would be equally shitty for the opposite reason you're complaining about. If you want to hoard a bunch of blue crafting items it's going to take more space than generic grey crap

>>725774390
>Are you people capable of not strawmanning

What is the strawman in >>725774015

i like the game but i feel like theres absolutely no reason to not use a free loadout most of the time unless you're doing something that requires it or you're just going to be killing people

>>725774458
>>725774169
>>725774390
Why are you guys so against a game actually making you think and plan a little bit? Its not the end of the world jesus its just loot.

If you run out of space just recycle shit, make some shit. Its not the loot is finite.

hello sars, as you can see i am brown and am paid by nexon a few indian ruples or whatever the fuck they use to post here
game is woke and gay but fun, does NOT have the depth of tarkov but for me that's a good thing as i found i was spending too much time in the lobby instead of in the actual game on tarky, the free loadouts give progression on your actual character instead of a scav gaining 0 xp for your character, also nice
the game aint for everyone and it dont deserve goty, i just have 3k hours on dark and darker because i like dungeon delving and need a reason to survive/(extract)
if only this game was FPS instead of fortnite tps
nexon sucks dicks

>>725774739
green loadouts are basically just as free and having a safe pocket lets you progress even if you die. I don't know why people are using free loadouts at all when green is so cheap. You literally carry like double the weight

>>725774169
Uh why are you wasting your time hoarding trash before the game tells you you need it?

>>725774739
>less inventory space
>less quick use items
>weaker shield
>No safepocket
>Shit weapons
>Shit everything

Its not superior in any way. Its just the safe option for when you dont want to gamble. And gambling is kinda the point of the game

>>725740857 (OP)
>friendslop garbage
no thanks

>sees someone get both batteries to open the latch
>shotgun them to death as they finish
>they start screaming in proximity chat
>escape with the loot
I love games that have community enforced "PVE"

>>725774709
>a raid is far lessened because you have x999999 of
Get checked

>>725774739
the game won't outright tell you that but you're literally gimping yourself for no gain at all, free loadout only makes sense in the first few runs when you have literally no money or workshops
they could add a "green loadout" button that just automatically crafts the trash you need and there would never be a reason to push free instead of green

No surprise, all the people that have killed me on sight are all subhuman slavs.

>>725740857 (OP)
It looks so boring. ALl I see is people crawling around talking to people occasionally shooting at some flying drones or whatever the fuck a bit and going through the most ridiculous looting sequence ever then going back to some other place to leave the game and get back to the main menu

WHAT IS THE DRAW

>>725774810
His point is that you can't plan when you don't know what items will be needed to upgrade shit later. If it's required for a workbench upgrade then the tooltip should say so.

>>725774810
I realize as a poorfag with poor time management is strange for you, but if you recycle an item that you need later in a quest and requires a 20 minute run to obtain again, you literally wasted 20 minutes and you wasted 20 minutes because of bad game design. Hope this helps! Hope it applies to you in real life when you avoid driving to the grocery store back and forth five times in one day because you throw away things in your pantry because it's full instead of buying another shelf.

>>725774972
i dont feel like im gambling much in a sense cause im hardly ever finding anything i feel like im going to be upset over losing

>>725775374
This that's all it really is

>>725775250
Hyperbole not a strawman.

>>725775449
>the first time you hoarded something just to recycle it into more useless trash wasn't a waste of time
>but a quest telling you you need something to progress is a waste of time
world's smartest hoarder

>>725774889
>why are you looting green, blue, and rarer items in a game that wants you to loot didn't you know those items were worthless, you should be doing PVP anyways

>>725775682
>>725775449
also start selling that trash instead of recycling it so you can afford stash upgrades you down syndrome mongoloid

>>725775374
Basically just a "solved" extraction shooter. The "fun" is in the loop and possibly losing everything, though this is normies friendly as their is a "free set" system so you can safely loot without losing your items

>>725775682
Every time you remove something from your inventory that is later required to progress in the game is wasting time. Hopefully one day you won't be poor but I have a feeling time management isn't your strong suit. This isn't a difficult exercise of abstract or critical thinking, but I see I found the person who spends $200 in microtransactions in a digital game because basic long-term planning is foreign to you.

>>725775427
I mean this is down to personal preference but there are two ways to play a game like this
>Discover as you go as you progress naturally through the game
Or
>Metagame and look everything up on the wiki
I usually just play the former because I like the ebb and flow of
>Oh I need that thing? Shit I shouldn't have recycled it, that'll teach me to recycle blue loot when I dont know what it does yet, ok now I'll look out for it more and that influences me to hit up a certain biome more

>>725775450
Well I get your point but its loot progression. Every time you walk back with nothing delays your progression. And obviously when you start finding purple or better loot you'll feel sore if some underhanded individuals defile and rob your ass before you can extract- but a safepocket prevents the loss of the most key piece of loot

It's a disjointed mix of concepts that don't really work together.
PvP is alright, but weapon balance is fucked. Low tier weapons are too powerful for their ease of access, high tier weapons are only really good on against the AI. Shields are a joke.
The risk vs reward of fighting Arc is non-existent. You're basically fighting shit to loot shit to craft actual worthless high tier shit, all the while leaving yourself open to get shot in the back. The reward for taking this risk needs to be SOMETHING.
I don't know how to fix it. It's kind of just fucked.
Sliding around is fun as fuck though.

i think they really need to up the amount of high quality loot you can find the chicken already brings back more than enough of the basic stuff you need to just get out there

>>725775449
>t if you recycle an item that you need later in a quest and requires a 20 minute run to obtain again, you literally wasted 20 minutes and you wasted 20 minutes because of bad game design
>Wasted 20 minutes
>Wasted 20 minutes

Anon did you forget the game is meant to be, yknow, FUN? Its not 20 minutes wasted, it's 20 minutes of enjoying yourself topside.
If you aren't actually enjoying the raids then maybe the game isnt for you

>>725775803
you literally lose more by not having a safe pocket which can easily net you a valuable worth 10x more than a green set, and that's not even counting the extra weight, inventory slots, killability and survivability

>>725775931
you can look up all the questions items in advance if your autism doesn't allow any setbacks. but if you feel that strongly I'm sure losing a loadouts would also upset you so my advice is to play a different game

>>725775931
>Insinuating other people are poor with poor time management
>Whilst posting on 4chan
How productive are you being rn anon?

>>725775931
you're the retard hoarding shit you don't know if you need and then complaining about wasting your own time

>>725775992
Casual PVP needs to be punished more and stealth/planned PVP should be rewarded. One change is making bots swarm whenever PVP happens so the PVPer is forced to hastily extract or hide for minutes.

>>725776095
I think I just told you why it's not fun to be forced by a game's arbitrary mechanics to waste time. Just like I understand that retarded skin you spent $100 is a database row that can be duplicated a million times.

>>725776275
>One change is making bots swarm whenever PVP happens
That is literally how it already works
The bots can hear gunshots and explosions from ages away

>>725742238
always relevant

>>725775970
>that'll teach me to recycle blue loot when I dont know what it does yet,
That loops back around to what we were saying though. Now you don't want to recycle anything because you might need it for xyz but you're not actually sure. The game already tells you if an item is used to craft another item. Having it tell you "This is used in upgrading xyz bench" would be nice too.

>>725776357
Why is playing a game you enjoy wasting time
Unless you don't actually enjoy it

>>725776371
I have yet had to worry about bots in a serious way after killing players, so if the mechanic exists it's inconsequentially. I'm saying that within the time it takes search a player's body you should be already sprinting away or you're dead. But I recognize PVPers don't intend on fixing the game, just wanting to grind carebears until the husk is dry.

>>725775931
>remove
You literally got money or useful crafting mats you fucking disingenuous kike. Even the purple mats from arc are worth recycling for their blue mats.

>matriarch on spaceport
>everyone distracted
>rush tower
>loot and scoot
not a bad lil haul
still searching for my venator blueprint

>Game pisses off /v/ to no end
yeb that's an instant buy for me

>>725776456
I don't enjoy it and I left a negative review. The game is already bleeding 10% day/day so it's very obvious the game's problems are grinding players.

>>725776432
that would be a nice QOL addition but there's already a full cheat sheet of every item you need and every item that's safe to sell/trade.
People should just use that if they don't want to accidentally lose something. I sold so many fucking humidifiers before I knew I would need them but I just said "oh well" and got some more.
I think a lot of people are fundamentally against that but still bought the game for some reason

>>725776275
Does ARC investigate flares? I feel like that is a step in a good direction that could improve things, perhaps from a pretty wide area, or a big risk of some kind of automated drop-pod reinforcements like what snitches do. It's at least a bigger risk vs reward for PvP.

>lots of blabla
>no screenshot of the game
>no webm
yeah it's trash, won't pay a cent

>>725776650
I'm saying they shouldn't "investigate" I'm saying they should be actively hostile within 200m of a corpse making killing a player a death sentence if you do it casually.

>>725776693
>no screenshot of the game
>>725742938

>>725776693
This is the gameplay >>725751470
This is the heckin loot >>725776497

What does this game do differently from other extraction shooters other than marketing? As far as I can tell its literally just another copy of the dozens of other extraction shooters. Other than the marketing to attract normies, what's this game doing different?

>>725777403
Nothing much, I fell for the hype and its meh

>>725777403
It has completely negligible PvE that serves essentially zero purpose since the lower tier gear in this game has the best shit.

>>725777403
Fast paced. It doesn't take long to go anywhere on a map so you can scoot in,loot,leave in minutes. Also it's in the early phase where everyone is super nice and friendly. If the DayZ bean wars taught us anything then that won't last for long.

>>725776497
absolutely farmed

>Play Dam Battlegrounds/Buried City
>Tons of co-op in solo, people are mostly friends

>Play Blue Gate
>Absolute fucking warzone of savagery

>>725777904
The elusive rusted gear. Only on the most ultra rare of loots tables.

>>725778062
I'm going to miss Dam when newbies aren't the 90% populace.

>>725777403
much more casual friendly (which the genre needed).
better QoL.
that's it. if you like the extraction genre it's a great game. if you don't you wont.

>>725778095
swear i found one in my first 10 raids, recycled it, then searched forever for the 3 i needed for my hideout
and now i've found like 3 more without trying

>>725778291
i sold so many lightbulbs....and now...

>Sneak into extract to start the timer
>finish
>guy standing behind me the whole time
Do they just lurk at the exit waiting for someone else to finish it?

>>725778512
>tfw sold mushrooms

>>725778656
Me.

>>725778809
>Sold the ducks
FUCK

>>725778062
buried city is always deathmatch zone for me, there's some sleeper agent switch in people's heads that turns on in urban areas

Game is fine, had a lot of good moments with randoms and some have been absolute niggers. Scratching the right itch for my multiplayer group when we don't have 4 dudes for other games. Also holding me over until Tarkov 1.0 when I can finish that game for good.

anyone knows what the battery (not supply crate) on the south edge of space port does? it's like the ones that open locked rooms but no where nearby to take it.

>>725740857 (OP)
is this the game with the anus cat?

>>725778809
at least you can reliably get those from hydrodomes

>>725740986
>you [insert angry video game comment] why not [paragraph defending LGBT+ rights] I can tell this is nothing but [unsolicited opinions on Israel] you damn [video of man falling from the world trade center circa 2001]

the AI is almost too smart, the fuckers will find a way to fly into a small dome if you hide even.
>its safe here
>nope

>increase normal AI density by 50%
>increase max total AI at any one time by 5x
>reduce total player count to 10
game fixed

>>725778062
>duos on dam
>bump into other duo
>"what's up?"
>"nm just doing some questing"
>we were not just questing
>hear raider flare near aggroed rocketeer shortly after
>rush to it
>insane fight ensures with every duo in the map shows up
>kill 4 duos
>time to loot
>the guys we bumped into earlier catch up to us and wipe us

>>725742938
kino screenshot, anon. What's would you say is the most graphically intensive map? I've got a new GPU and wanted to run some tests.

>>725747076
>badly mismanaged and directionless The Finals has been for the last year or so.
I dunno anon but it definitely feels and plays better than it did on release. it's fantastic for a F2P shooter

>>725747848
>WHY, but it seems beautiful
lighting and good art direction. Seems like a lot of the BF1 devs also worked on it since the maps have a similar vibe to them.

>>725781024
no clue tbhfam i've got good hardware and the game runs so well i don't notice any performance differences between maps
blue gate i think is the biggest and prettiest so i'd assume that's the most demanding but no clue really

>>725780687
i havent played the game yet but they couldnt just have seperate lobbies or matchmaking options for more or less PVP

>>725778656
>some guy taking potshots at an arc surveyor from a tower on Spaceport
>he abandons engagement once it starts rolling away
>I manage to pop it dead with a stunner and a sticky nade
>walk up to loot and another guy walks up from the opposite direction
>he aims at me but notices my stitcher is level 4
>we both holster and I let him have a look since I already had enough vaults
>he gave me some metal and wires for letting him loot
Pretty cool, happens all the time.

>>725777590
The lower tier isn't the best, but the best stuff is like <10% better which is countered but how much more expensive upgrading and repairing are. A Ferro4+Sticher 4 carry if you get the first shot.

>>725778062
Blue Gate has so many easy weapon boxes and puzzles. Checkpoint and all the underground shit, plus the fort has a puzzle.

>>725777590
>negligible
I'm like fighting ARCs so it's not a chore. No part of the game is a chore to me so I don't get impatient and think any part of it is a waste of time.

>>725743928
Ive play solo for 20 hours now and rando kills you on sight only maybe 2/10 are friendly.

So what am I actually in for if I get this to play solo? I'm tempted but not massively. Is it better than Forever Winter? looks kind of similar.

>>725776038
IM LEVEL 26 AND IVE ONLY FOUND 3 BLUEPRINTS. FUCK

>walk up on guy breaching door
>decide not to shoot and say hi
>he breaches lockers and gives me lvl3 backpack blueprint
nice

>>725781543
it's not about less pvp per se, it's that by reducing player counts you can spawn people further apart so that pvp doesn't happen within a minute of spawn with nothing to fight over, but in contested loot areas and travel pathways
plus it seems like half my raids there is at least one, sometimes up to 6+ other players trying to extract at the same place at the same time
it's just too player dense imo at least for solos
remember if solos and squads have the same number of total players, you end up with 3x as many "squads" of solos as you do in trios

so is this game like apex legends but with dark and darker looting?
is it fun? or is a game that you forget about it in 2 weeks?

i can feel it in my bones a PvE mode is coming at some point next year

>>725781858
Maybe avoid other people, so the only people you run into are also people sneaking around simply trying to loot? I swear the solution to this game's many challenges is stealth but you fuckers are deaf and blind with poor reaction time or never consider sneaking around people simply to avoid them.

i didnt know this was a nexon game

>>725740857 (OP)
i like how they had to put such a fruity pose on the cover so you know its a woman under there

>>725781878
Forever Winter is PvE only and half-finished. This game is fully polished in terms of little to no glitches as of last patch and requires you to avoid other players or work with them to take down larger enemies for better loot drops until you acquire the heavy ordnance throwables. Without mic you can still holster your gun and emote or try to avoid player interaction completely.

>>725782148
God I hope so. I haven't played, but all I see is a PvE game where the PvP was switched on for none other reason than to please the competitive niggers.

Be honest
Are you jelly

>>725782064
>apex
Recharges for your shields are plentiful and TTK is low. You can hang out with randos in the solo servers doing quests and fighting bots despite them being allowed to TDM at any moment or play Trio Mode to fight both players and enemy NPCs. Also you keep all the loot you find upon extract unlike Apex. Everything is fun and snappy if you like looting and shooting. The social aspect alienates autists because they can't read social cues of niggers trying to kill them in solo mode.

>>725782818
I decorate my little Raider shelf with the expensive trinkets rather than sell them. The loot gods blessed me with duplicates of each so I assume I made the right choice.

>>725782818
this is what you'd look like if you were black and chinese

>>725782976
Exactly what I do
Money will always come but I like the idea of decorating

I hope they upgrade the system in future to let you pick and choose what you display. A progression based extraction looter definitely should give you as many useless things you can slowly improve over time, to go from a dusty piece of shit room to a cozy bedroom

>>725782064
It feels very similar to Apex but with less of the Titanfall pilot movement and more realistic movement, but very similar in feel for sure.

Its apex if you kept all your loot when the game ended, the goal was to get loot and escape rather than be the last standing, and instead of using kills and supply drops and vaults and shit to get top tier loot, you scavenged supplies to take them back to your base to build it yourself.

If you like Apex you'll probably like this too in all honesty

A pure PvE mode is cool and all but what about a pure PvP mode? Something like 5v5. Smaller maps. Preload out kits you could pick before fight so that there are no super advantages. Similarly to arcade mode loadouts in resident evil 4 or Last of Us multiplayer. A couple grenades maybe depending on class. Can find craftable items in game to maybe help, etc.

>>725783619
why would that be fun?
not a rhetorical question

>>725782818
u are the one who is jerry

>>725778062
>>Play Dam Battlegrounds/Buried City
>>Tons of co-op in solo, people are mostly friends
It goes both ways. Some raids you team up with people and go hunting for ARC together. Others you get sniped at the edge of the map by some camping faggot.

>>725747873
thats what Fallout 76 did

>>725784574
Waw

>>725782838
>>725783604
is it worth 40$?
specially for solo play?

>new map
>time-gated

>>725783619
This is just The Finals without crafting bullshit

>>725785410
maybe $20 now, might be worth after a year of updates

>>725783619
Whats with you retards wanting to take out the unique/engaging part of games to make them boring "click enemy to kill them" shit? Like there are countless games like what you want, go play them, seriously lol

>>725785923
>>725785647
>>725784306
because I miss the Last of Us multiplayer. Did none of you play that? Was severally underrated. And Arc Raiders makes me think of it a lot.

>>725781667
How do you notice a guns level on another player?

>Playing in trio of bros
>Map comes out, midnight release hype in our hearts
>Enter first map looking for matriarch on bluegate
>Matriarch is bugged and doesn't spawn
>For the next 3 games different squads of cheaters are wiping the entire lobby and camping the only 2 extracts that are open thanks to the game mode

The game's going to go downhill fast. Yesterday it was about 30% of my lobbies (1 in 30-50 players, maybe) that had a cheater.
That's already a fucked gameplay experience in an extraction shooter - And because RMT trades are easily performed ingame, we're going to get an entire industry of chinkoids, SEAmonkeys, brazilians and russians cheating in arc raiders as if it's their job.
It's going to be exactly like tarkov, and die on the same hill.

>>725778656
When I find other groups of people extracting I like to ominously play the Recorder nearby while we all wait hiding from each other

Am I friendly? Or is it a threat? Who's to say

>>725788327
Recorder might be the best use of 3k in the game, its uses are inexplicable.

>>725788470
Best use I've seen so far is using it while walking down someone who's downed.

Its incredibly intimidating

>>725782976
I didnt even know this was a thing.

>multiplayer only
>pvp only
>buy-to-play with in-game shop
Three strikes, not buying.

post your skill tree

>>725788927
I wish i could respec my excess points out of red to finish mobility.
I Have regrets, maxxing green is no longer one of them since the locker nerf.
Dodge roll traits have absolutely paid off for themselves in PvP, but are useless against cheaters and laggers that will unload a full clip before you're rolled on their screen.

>>725788927
Making a beeline for the lootmaxxing skills first then will go back for mobility capstones like you have

>>725789202
yeah I'm guessing at some point they'll add the ability to respec, seems strange to not have it
>>725789401
cardiomaxxing is nice

>>725789591
I think they intended players to live with their choices until the expedition opens.
A somewhat annoying design choice, I don't mind it being taxxing to respec, but a 60 day wait is excessive.

>>725746902
>looks like

>>725740986
These retards will make fun of you but you're absolutely correct.
>body type a/b
>voice changers
Actual troon coded game. No surprise being made by Swdes.

>>725789401
Not even loot maxxing, the shit on the right is just nice
>max load capacity
>faster looting
>chance on double reveal which is huge for bodies with tons of shit
>field craft

>>725788927
mobility is such a joke.

>>725791045
you spend like half your time in the game just running across the map

>PvP literally just boils down to "Team that shows up last to an altercation wins" or "team the robots don't decide to focus on wins"
People enjoy this shit?

>>725792135
and I spent 38 points dedicated to that and move maybe 1% better

They should make queen and matriarch cores function as an orb of regret.

>tfw every game with an inventory system
gotta be pathological at this point

if Solo mode is just PvE queue why does that not just justify a PvE mode? The devs and the beta testers were wrong about it and its okay fro them to admit it.

>>725792598
choosing nonviolence and not allowed to be violent aren't the same thing anon

>>725792576
BRO I FUCKING LOVE SPENDING 3 MINS AFTER EVERY GAME SELLING STUFF THAT ALSO TOOK ME TIME TO GET TO REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING SLIGHTLY MORE VALUABLE JUST SO I CAN PLAY ANOTHER RAID WHY WOULD YOU EVEN NEED MORE STORAGE BRO

>PvP literally just boils down to "Team that shows up last to an altercation wins" or "team the robots don't decide to focus on wins"
People enjoy this shit? lol

>>725792669
yeah but if you start choosing violence in solo queue you get reported for griefing

>>725792747
>you get reported for griefing
literally doesn't happen

Are the quests and stuff in this boring. Is the PvE content any good? Im a sperg and just want to go around doing stuff but I dont know what that actually is.

What do you DO in each match if people are friendly and dont gun down each other immediately?

>>725740857 (OP)
3rd person shooters with PvP are ASS

>>725793293
except fortnite

>>725792743
Your statement is correct in shitter vs. shitter fights, But with better gear and utility you gain immense agency/freedom to play how you want against both bots and players.
TL;DR Git gud

>>725792487
I found all of the upgrades to be noticeable, maybe you're bad at evaluating this kind of stuff.

What is your goal in this game? Collect things and dont die?

>>725751470
honestly this is the only fun way to play the game, I do this but with the free loadout since there is no risk but high reward. keep it up toki bro
>>725740857 (OP)
the gameplay loop is very boring after 2-5 hours depending on what you're doing. If you don't want to be gunned down and cry then turn off the crossplay

>>725793579
>it's gear dependent
>get good
Pick one

>game has PvP
>get mad when people PvP
???

>>725793267
>Are the quests and stuff in this boring.
Most of them are "go here, do this, find this, kill this bot" and players in your lobby make the action for you, for the most part.

>Is the PvE content any good?
It's very rewarding, pretty dynamic too because the bot actions are partially dictated by reinforcement learning and leads to some very cool, often hilarious encounters.

>Im a sperg and just want to go around doing stuff but I dont know what that actually is.
If you're a PvPer, you want to be running very rewarding keyrooms with friends for high tier blueprints that you can sell to some 80iq american dad for $30 venmo.
If you're a PvE player, you'll be farming boss bots (Queen and matriarch right now) for both blueprints and valuable drops.
Blueprints are valuable because you can endlessly make top tier shit with very little material investment.

>What do you DO in each match if people are friendly and dont gun down each other immediately?
Kill bots or loot good areas. Realistically, those players trying to be friendly without reason already have the good shit and backstabbing them is the correct choice in 99.99999% of cases.

>>725740857 (OP)
I hate the face options. I wanna be a Chad. Still, I fuckibg love the outfits. I bought it just for that

>>725777403
>what's this game doing different?
Being a working game with new content. Every single extract game on release was in early access with every single aspect of the game being janky asf or not working or shitty performance and bugs. Arc is very well polished on release and pretty casual for an extract shooter.

Its so stupid this game has some unwritten etiquette that everyone is expected to be nice to each other. Go play a PvE game then? I dont get it.

>>725794278
I havent heard one positive thing about the customization. Are you glad you bought it?

>>725794339
It doesn't and you believing that also makes me think you may have a chromosome missing.

>>725794339
bruh there's no unwritten rules and you don't have to be nice to anyone stfu
only thing that makes you a cunt is pretending to be friendly and betraying someone and committing a literal war crime

>>725794097
>high tier blueprints that you can sell to some 80iq american dad for $30 venmo.

So wait, a few lucky blueprint drops and the game basically pays for itself?

>>725794535
>only thing that makes you a cunt is pretending to be friendly and betraying someone and committing a literal war crime
stop exposing me

I've played tons of extraction games and I'm always one of those friendly-with-a-big-stick players that rarely shoots on sight, but does loves when players give me an opportunity to PVP.
Was thinking about trying something new and playing as a complete extraction dickbag this time (KoS, fake friendliness to get the upper hand, etc) with Arc Raiders.
Is this a good game to play that kind of style?

>>725794278
>I wanna be a Chad
that option exists

>>725794445
>>725751470
https://litter.catbox.moe/9lu5j3p6g7gfgh5a.mp4
Hates people like who? Hates people playing the game? Example Is how most react when you kill them. Streamers get super salty about it too. People IN THIS VERY THREAD are whining about shooting on sight. Maybe you have the chromosome missing.

>>725794595
Yep, it's a part of why Tarkov's RMT cheater crowd took to this game so quickly.
>>725794628
Yes, especially with boss bots, you'll get a lot of times where the moment the boss dies players will turn on each other while half of them desperately try to shove queen cores in their ass

it's always so funny how dogshit at pvp the few cunts who unironically try to gank you at extract are
then they get on the mic and pretend not to care because they don't have any good loot on them but you can hear the fear and disappointment in their voice when they had all the advantage of being a grimy rat fuck and still got absolutely shit on

>>725794535
>only thing that makes you a cunt is pretending to be friendly and betraying someone and committing a literal war crime

So..some arbitrary, made up rule then? Hmmm..

>>725794769
Brazilfag, I have both done what you did in that webm a million times while also farmed shitters doing the same.
Nothing you do is unique to you and no white woman will ever touch you.

>>725794870
>made up rule
like all laws
>arbitrary
you don't know what that word means

post 'em
>tfw anvil was my first bp
TYBG

>>725795097
People whine about people killing each other in this game. Its stupid. Simple as.

>>725745034
dont give a shit about the loot. I get memorable interactions every day.

>>725781858
>Ive play solo
Maybe they shoot you because you're an ESL. I've put in over 100 hours almost exclusively playing solo and people are friendly 9/10 times and if they aren't friendly its because its some autist that doesn't use a mic or its a mexican that can't speak english. Just use your mic or emotes and you're good.

>>725795270
people who wine about pvp are retarded
people who pretend they're not going to shoot you then try to shoot you have a personality disorder
and are also retarded

>>725748203
weird, Buried city is by far the friendliest map for me. Just go to the middle, shgoot the big robot and you're guaranteed to have 3-4 dudes helping you by the time you look behind you.

>some autist that doesn't use a mic
Isn't that, most of this board?

>>725794769
You gave plenty of notice. There should be a proactive "Im gonna shoot" line honestly.

>>725795569
maybe thats why arc raiders filters so many people on /v/

>>725795478
Ive never had someone do thale pretend friendly thing. You must have terrible luck because you say it like its happened to you multiple times.

>>725794769
>Loses an entire stacked kit from not healing and getting IQ diffed by a rocketeer
NGMI

Wait, do you absolutely need a mic to play this game? I am a turbo autist and that might be a deal breaker.

>>725795783
Theres voice commands for Yes No Thankyou and Dontshoot, plus you can make your various pings and ping commands limke HEEaling here or Item here public, so everyone can hear them. Ive always managed to communicate appropriately. You can also ping items.

>>725795783
No, you can do simple answers to people using voice with emotes that have your character talk in proximity. It's actually pretty nice. If you want to hide your voice, there's an AI voicechanger option that many AGP trannies use to make them sound almost convincingly female in prox.

>>725792576
at this point I simply never send consumables to stash. Everything consumable i find has to stay in my loadout until used, unless its dogshit and sold immediately.

>>725789727
its not that excessive

This feels kind of like a swept up by hype game that will level out to its 'hardcore' players sticking around and get lower and lower on view count on Twitch and be talked about less in less on forums until next multiplayer hype thing comes out.

That said, im not actually saying its bad or blaming anyone for falling for it, but I dont know that this has staying power. Also I guess what I described would happen no matter how good it is

>>725796314
Not disagreeing, but i think that happens with every single game, and tends to always peak in dropoff once a serious meta is formed that <100iq players just can't overcome with thought.
The games that are exceptions to this rule are generally made for children and have very little challenge to them.

>>725761218
looks and moves like a mobile game

>>725795696
it's happened exactly twice in 40-45 hours playtime but people complain about it happening to them way more
not common for me but def a thing

holy fuck you can creep around on the ouside ledge of one of the buildings on spaceport and absolutely gank tf out of someone you hear looting inside
absolute most rat fuck move i've ever pulled
almost felt bad, poor guy never got a shot off

>>725796314
>game releases with high player count
>over time the player count goes down and settles with its dedicated fans
That happens with literally every game dude. You attributing this to being a problem specifically with this game or saying people are "falling for it" is retarded doomer shit.
The games fun, you can already get a lot of time out of it and its getting updates that will be fun to drop in and check out like the new boss they just put out today and the map that will come out in a couple days. You don't need everyone playing this game 24/7 every single day for the next 10 years or whatever retarded shit you think needs to happen.

>>725781858
>incel rat voice afraid to use mic

I was ratting by extract and got a double kill with my hammer, was about to snag a full triple and execute them but I ran out of stam and the last guy got away with a scratch of hp.

>>725797741
When you have these huge PVE bosses, you can use an Osprey and just fuck with people from really far away

>>725793805
you got it

>>725798353
i wasn't even being a fuck, i had to dip from 2 wasps and a hornet that were all aggro'd on me so went inside and heard someone, just crept around and looted, trying to figure out a path to extract then the poor fucker went upstairs so it was fair game
also have the osprey bp but no suppressor bp so it wouldn't be as fun kek