Thread 725746809

>"rapidly evolving market conditions."

>"will be priced like a pc, rather than like a console with games subsidizing the upfront hardware purchase"

>"Because it's a full-fledged PC"

>"There's no guarantee then that uh say a corporate purchase of 10,000 of these things would result in a single game sale."

>https://youtu.be/g3FkuZNSGkw?si=4jc6piV4voXjsmZW&t=654

You didn't "call" shit you loser

>weaker than a PS5
>expected to be over $500
>questionnable thermals
>limited upgradeability (but I will give them bonus points for allowing a full size NVMe upgrade)
who would buy this?

>>725747045
It's gonna be a great Plex server.

>>725747125
You could buy any one of the plethora of existing mini PCs for that. Likely to be better value, too.

>>725746809 (OP)
is it cheaper than building real pc?

>>725747016
>"There's no guarantee then that uh say a corporate purchase of 10,000 of these things would result in a single game sale."
I called this yesterday, ask your mom.

>>725746809 (OP)
A real pc gamer wouldn't want the meme box

>>725747185
>is it cheaper than building real pc?
This is a real pc and thats the "problem" valve can't sell it at a loss, because people can just buy this REAL PC and install Windoze, other Linux distros and never buy shit on the Steam Store, unlike a console where the boot loader is locked and you are forced to buy games on one store.

But maby Valve wiggers got a good AMD deal + they are selling their shit only on steam, so no vendor fees.

>>725746809 (OP)
How do I upgrade the CPU or GPU of the memebox

>>725746809 (OP)
As long as its not the post AI pricing for hardware, that shit is going to sell like hotcakes.
I was lucky to buy the hardware when I did, people building the same PC would have to pay double if not more for storage now. So if valve passes the deal on to its consumers, even at regular in store pricing this will end up as a deal. Might not be for the PC enthusiast, but for people who want an OK gaming box for mid tier performance, it seems great.

>>725747559
>How do I upgrade the CPU or GPU on a laptop?
You don't. RAM and SSD only.

>>725747163
Then link me to one.

>>725747185
>>725747540
>maby Valve wiggers got a good AMD deal
>no vendor fees.
This is going to make or break the thing imo. If they sell at normal prices, its going to be a decent pickup. Like fuck me, the ram I paid 190$ for went to over 400$ in a few months. The prices are spiraling.

>>725747658
how good is the CPU & GPU?

>>725747693
>Ryzen5 5500
>Asus B550 Mobo
>NZXT H3
>DDR 4 RAM
>MSI PSU
>RX 7600
Just install bazzite and you have le steam machine.
>https://youtu.be/rdzCEGZja4c?si=gLNZ7KmID8NdLzyk

>>725747045
The rumors when it was in development was that it was meant as a bundle deal with the new VR headset. So Valve could sell a complete self-hosted package like Apple for less than a third of Apple's price tag, even if the compromise on price meant it wasn't all in the headset.
But since it is just a PC there was also no reason not to sell it separately as well, and as weak as it is 40% of Windows systems used with Steam are weaker.

I bet it gets dropped in as an upgrade on a lot of old guys home sim setups who just want something well supported and hassle free.
The specs also mean it won't be constantly sold out because of AI purchases.

>>725747693
just look at brands like Minisforum, Beelink, GEEKOM, NiPoGi, AceMagician, GMKtec, as well as really anything using intel NUC.
These aren't a new concept at all, anon.

>"There's no guarantee then that uh say a corporate purchase of 10,000 of these things would result in a single game sale."
Realistically is there any way for Valve to prevent this from happening?

People get mad at scalpers but hungry corporations have been just as bad in the PC space. I'm so fucking tired of everything cool getting jacked up in price and demand so they can burn billions on the latest tech fad.

>>725747045
The ram is also apparently upgradeable.

>>725748394
It is but they admitted it's not easy to access and requires quite a lot of disassembly, the NVMe however is a very straightforward upgrade.

>>725748276
increase whatever the price by $150, but give a coupon code for $150 on steam account. That way you force companies to look for an alternative and gamers still get their money back

>>725747912
Ranging from -10% of a PS5 to +20%.
Linux Mesa driver is very good, they talked about 4k@60 with FSR and they didn't even mention LSFG (fake frames), which is on Linux now.

I'ts a nice piece of small and efficient hardware, recommendation depends first and foremost on the price and 2nd on the user.

>>725747185
Less blood too

>>725747045
Weaker than ps5 but can do 4k and 60fps which ps5 can barely do 30

>>725749709
>but can do 4k and 60fps
This doesn't mean anything without any game benchmarks yet.

>>725749783
so now you care about framerate and stuff ?

>>725749878
Huh?
I don't own a PS5, I already have my own gaming PC which is why I don't understand the point of this product with such weak specs.

>>725746809 (OP)
Why the fuck would they not release HL3 or any 3 at this point with this
It really is gonna be DOA if its anything more than 500 bucks, why the fuck would you get a non upgradeable PC at PC price and compete against upgradeable PCs, its incredibly fucking stupid
Non of the perks of having a fanbase with shared specs will matter if its overpriced and static specs, its an e-waste PC

Why are tendies seething so hard over a prebuilt PC?

>cube is bigger than I initially thought (would have been fine if it was same volume but more rectangular)
>usb-c (no display output)
Welp I'm out. I carry a miniPC for traveling and this thing isn't really meant for traveling.

>>725750429
>they release HL3
>to get a loicense you need to buy the Orange Box edition Steam Machine
>releases with Denuvo, so anyone who wants to play it needs to buy one of these shitboxes
I've always said that Nintendo was retarded with the Amiibos. What they should have done was made it so you can use the Smash Bros fighters a month early if you had the Amiibo, then just raise the Amiibo prices by 30 dollars and include a DLC code for the character.

>>725750429
The info on pricing is not set in stone, but still...

>>725746809 (OP)
I'm convinced anyone leaving the tracking querystring in youtube links is either a shill or a moron.
Either way, fuck off.

All I care about is the controller.

>>725750429
$499 for the entry level system makes sense given the specs and the rumors. With RAM prices so high and tariffs that change on a whim they might have to go higher, but 16+8 memory setup is less than is likely to be in Sony or Microsoft's next-gen consoles so Valve could have a price advantage there.
As with most pre-builts, its not priced for the dumpster diving extreme budget hobbyist, but I bet it will be hard for Windows OEMs to beat on price selling smaller batches, with more SKUs, and the Microsoft Tax.

>>725750634
I'm a tendie and I'm honestly very excited for this thing. It'll be nice to have a simple box to play my steam library on.

I barely use my PC for games anymore - I do a lot of work on it and I just don't wanna sit at my desk for the rest of the day once I'm done.

>>725749709
>but can do 4k and 60fps
I imagine the PS5 can do 4k 60fps on Balatro too

>>725748519
That sounds like a great idea, that would allow them to underprice without the bulk purchase issue.

>>725751294
>I'm a tendie
no you're not, you're an idort

>>725747185
no

>>725747702
Why the fuck did ram triple in cost? I bought a team group ddr5 at $120 cad and its like $300+ cad now

>>725749680
>Canadian
lmao

>>725746809 (OP)
Linux Freemason trsnny race mixing vaccine immigration tips

>>725747016
FPBP

>>725751780
Whats wrong with canada

isn't this the racemixing guy?

>>725751741
Apparently another surge of AI popularity, where the same chips used for ram and ssds are being used on GPUs which creates a shortage. Its fucking insane.

>>725751935
yeah. typical steamie

>>725748456
I think Gabebox could work if it was like an up-gradable console (PC), but upgrading is easy as opening a lid and swapping a cartridge for retarded normalfags
Too bad that's not the case

>>725746809 (OP)
What's your point, exactly?

Don't care. Will buy. You're trans.

>>725751640
I get called a tendie for saying I enjoy Nintendo releases/owning a switch 2. I figured that was the working definition on /v/ these days

>>725746809 (OP)
The biggest advantage to me is the compact size. I imagine it mogs laptops so it could be a good portable PC.

>>725752194
And I am buying as well. Valve is woke. I support woke companies. Simple as.

>>725746809 (OP)
Who is this fag and why did we move from twitter screencaps?

>>725748061
Looks pretty big for a steam machine

>>725746809 (OP)
if they are worried about corps buying thousands of them then only sell it at the subsidised price in a bundle with the VR headset.

>>725751213
>I'm convinced anyone leaving the tracking querystring in youtube links is either a shill or a moron.
they are too retarded to copy the URL from the address bar so they use the "Share" button, probably phonefag too

>>725746809 (OP)
If they packaged it with free digital copies of all the old first party Valve games + whatever new shit they got coming out, I think that would justify the price. This is assuming the target demographic is console norms who are scared to build a PC, since that group may not have played a lot of Valve stuff besides Portal. I mean the actual PC gamer audience is not going to buy an inferior pre-built and surely Valve is aware of that.

This thing will not succeed if it's way over the $500 price point. $600 works at a push, $700 is the absolute maximum 99% of the gaming populace would accept. $800 is fucking financial suicide.

>>725746809 (OP)
>>"will be priced like a pc, rather than like a console with games subsidizing the upfront hardware purchase
gayman laptop it is for me then

>>725752551
>people actually copy yt urls from the address bar
you know you can just right click the video and select 'copy url', right?

>>725752603
Do people buy non denuvo games on PC?

>>725751213
You are correct. A linus fag is a phone fag for sure.

>>725747125
>Plex
I stopped using it when the jews in charge changed remote streaming to a paid feature.

>>725752268
>delicious plumpy latina on the side
Que rico

>>725752613
It's going to be $800+.

>>725752551
Thanks, noted for next time

>>725752093
>an up-gradable console
the entire point of a console is in its static nature
when the hardware and drivers can be counted on to be completely standard, devs can target hardware specific optimizations far more effectively
that's why a pc of equivalent specs to a console gets worse performance

>>725752854
You're mistaken, that's a pajeeta.

For me it's ninomae ina'nis

>>725752268
that’s the fault of whatever third party marketing company they commissioned to shoot the promo

>>725752829
Is it? I bought a lifetime pass years ago.

>>725747259
see
>>725747016

Has anyone done a pcpartpicker of a similar specced PC to compare with this?

>>725753554
Yep, they want like $4/mo for the feature when it was a completely free feature before.

>>725751935
Yes he's a Jewish freemason who mandated the Vax for his employees, supports trooning out employees, and supports mass immigration to democide white people

>>725752935
>that's why a pc of equivalent specs to a console gets worse performance
These days that's really more because of how modern Microsoft Windows works than anything else since it runs everything through a compatibility layer and Direct3D 12 is at best a mid-level API with some high-level bits.
A game built for the low-level graphics API on the Playstation's BSD OS, and a game compiled for GNU/Linux and using its low-level Vulkan graphics API with RadV is going to perform about the same on the same hardware.
This is why it is a big deal that some developers have started doing native Vulkan builds for the Steam Deck, and that will likely follow to the Steam Machine as well.
Worst case scenario for RadV with Proton is usually still slightly better performance than modern Windows.

>>725746809 (OP)
Games gaben doesn't want you playing on his box.

>>725751916
lol
lmao

>>725754317
what "game" is that?

>>725753842
a little under $800
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZBwRV

>>725747693
A cheap $300 mini PC from minisforum or beelink makes a fine plex server. You can even get refurbished corporate PCs like a dell optiplex mini or hp G4 elitedesk for like $90.

>>725753547
New mental gymnastics unlocked

>>725754725
Ah sweet, I love state sponsored malware embedded in my Chinese hardware!

>want the console players
>want to out manouver competitive consoles
>price it as a pc
????????

>>725754847
>HP and Dell
>Chinese hardware malware
?

>>725754610
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxFcJn
I guess technically you could shave like $50 off, but I dunno why you niggers are acting like the steam machine needs to be $400 to be competitive

>>725754847
>Chinese hardware
you know literally ALL hardware comes from there right

>be me
>man child, neet.
>Steam Machine, day 1. (just like the deck)
>tinker with it, upgrade hardware
>set up emulation
>play once
>let it collect dust
Btw, same goes for the VR goon glasses. Except maby for the steam controller, but I already have ps5 controllers... I will waste $800 on the machine (I have a better PC) and another 1k on the fucking goon glasses. I hate myself for being such a loonix fag and valve drone.

>>725755047
>emulate basedboy bing bong wahoo games
>let it collect dust
that means you'd let the original console for those games collect dust as well

>>725755039
not all of it has embedded malware

>>725754725
Sounds like a waste, looking to upgrade not get a piece of useless trash that's not even as good as my current solution.

>>725755135
prove it

>>725747185
prebuilts cant be cheaper than diy machines because of scale.
this will be even worse because valve won't be ordering 100k of these right away, so they can't reduce costs
expect $750 at best unless valve is willing to take a loss

>>725747045
It's honestly looking like it would be a great home server or home testing for development

>>725754445
Wouldn't you like to know. So you can ban it again.

>>725755281
see >>725747163

>>725747045
It looks like it's targeting consolefags who want to move to a simple set up and don't want to waste time building a PC only to upgrade it in a few years.

>>725755117
When I still had the switch 1, I was gayming a lot more. Same with my Ps5, I was gaymin daily, but I sold this garbage and now I only have PC hardware (except old consoles). And I browse 4chin instead of gaymen, thats what freedom does to you.

>Trusting this fag's credibility after they spew constant bullshit they dont even correct
>knew about the honey scams decades and never said anything
>fucked over Billet Labs by not only using a prototype on the wrong GPU, but also giving away the prototype in some charity instead of sending it back

Fuck this faggot kike. Fuck OP for watching this faggot kike, it only proves op knows nothing of what he speaks of.

>>725755281
you know you can make those for like 100 usd tops right

>>725746809 (OP)
Is there a video about this computer that's not linux racemixing tips?
I have him in my blacklist and I don't want to give him a single cent with my yt premium view

>>725755378
>>725755429
That is true.

>>725755403
i'm so sorry

>>725755470
Gaymers Nexus or I/g/N.

>>725755237
It's been common knowledge for a while now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi0_wzdz7aY

>>725746809 (OP)
>AMGOY
>relies on FSR
Bro, FSR is so fucking shit that you could just lower internal resolution and get better image quality with the same performance.

>>725747163
Mini PCs don't do HDMI-CEC.

>>725755159
You wanted a plex server. Why are you buying a $600 device for that solution? Sounds like a waste.

>>725746809 (OP)
>will be priced like a pc, rather than like a console
so why buy the gabecube instead of any other prebuilt PC?

>>725755586
Show me proof that the brands minisforum and beelink have embedded malware. I've seen lots of people use them and there were never any issues on that side.

>>725755237
AMD PSP, Intel ME, ARM TrustZone, Apple Secure Enclave.

>lgbt tips
I'll wait for Tech Jesus to give me my opinion.

>>725748276
>>725748519
Ok. I guess callme a giga retard.
Why in the fuck would some company, like Amazon or Ford buy 10k of these exactly?
What purpose would it serve them?
Or am I understanding this statement wrong? If so wtfh does it mean?

>>725755772
because it would make the designer of the gabecube happy

>>725755840
>>725755586
i don't see any proof

Wtf is all the plex talk? Do people seriously use closed source subscription based malware for their selfhosted stuff, when jellyfin is a thing? Why don't you sub to netflix atp?

I legit don't understand all the controversy around this whole "who is this for" shit.
It's for people who want a consolized living room pc that is performant enough to run all their PC games that can be played with a controller, without the hassle of having to build one on your own or spend time in researching how to set it up.
>just buy a console
that's not a solution at all cause if you get a console then you have to rebuy any game you might want to play, and not all games you might want(which you already have anyway) are on that console

not to mention that building a similarly capable living room PC on your with the same size and power draw will definitely cost more than whatever this will cost, cause small form factor boards, cases, GPUs, PSUs, and anything that goes with this size costs more than the equivalent standard size, so a $700-800 standard sized pc will easily cost $1000-1200 when using parts for this size.

>muh performance
that's honestly the dumbest argument in all this, no one in their right mind would buy this expecting top tier performance
anyone who buys this knows they'll have to run console-like settings or below, and anyone buying this isn't someone who NEEDS to run everything on maxed out settings and are just fine running whatever settings makes the game playable

>tl;dr:
the "who is this for" debate is dumb, this is for PC gamers that want to play their ALREADY OWNED pc games in the living room without having to make their own living room pc, it isn't that hard.

>>725755810
I'm not gonna do a deep dive on some chink PCs for some anonymous shill on 4chan. Ask one of your e-celeb jewtubers to do one for you.

>>725755982
>*closes eyes*
>I don't see any proof here
Thanks for the update, chang. Still not buying your Malware boxes.

>>725747045
>expected to be over $500
Unless it's significantly more expensive than a base PS5 it's still the better deal cause you don't have to pay extra to access your own internet.

>>725746809 (OP)
>>725755962
>linus sex tips sponsored by emily
why is it always these obese monstrosities in tech

>>725755772
Because of the Valve branding and easy access for normies. Also it's low power and smol.. but other than that... idk. I really have to hold myself back. But I'll wait for the final price.

>>725746809 (OP)
400 dollars would be the sweet spot, but I doubt it will happen.

>>725746809 (OP)
>Linus Cuck Tips

>>725756006
Okay thanks for admitting those brands don't have malware.

>>725747045
>weaker than a PS5
No? It should be as good as PS5 Pro.

>>725756196
Show me proof

>>725747045
I place it right next to my ps5

>>725756081
>i-i-it's malware!!! hardware wired malware!!! wehhh!!!! wahhhh!!!!!
>no malware sighted anywhere
okay

>>725756002
>this is for PC gamers that want to play their ALREADY OWNED pc games
ngmi, sad... I honestly thought this kills ps6...

>>725746809 (OP)
It's not going to be over 600 bucks.
You can screencap this post for future reference

>>725755693
They all do though...?

>>725756275
Still not buying your malware boxes, Chang.

>>725756002
>It's for people who want a consolized living room pc that is performant enough to run all their PC games that can be played with a controller
You can do that with any other prebuilt PC on the market.

>>725756002
>this is for PC gamers that want to play their ALREADY OWNED pc games in the living room without having to make their own living room pc, it isn't that hard.
I'm a PC gamer and I just stream to my living room TV from my main PC. The Steam Cube has zero use case for couch gaming PC players. It's designed solely to target console players who don't have PCs.

>>725750634
Why are pctwats so eager to start console wars?
I thought you niggers were above this.
I could give a damn less, as I recall when Valve did this shit back in 2012....with the literal same name.
It was an irrelevant nothing then, I don't see this being any different because valve is incapable of fully committing to hardware sales and production.
FFS the deck is only at like 4mil all these years, simply because valve won't ship them to stores and make them easy to access and buy. it could easily be at 8 or even 12mil if valve made an effort to move hardware.
They are going to do the bare minimum. Again. And be lucky to cross 6mil in 3 years.
My question is wtfh does anyone care about this retread?

>>725756081
>*closes eyes*
>I don't see any proof here
lmfao

>>725751294
Makes sense considering tendies were the most interested in the ick on eck

Kind of hope it's at a reasonable price. My steam deck really isn't that good of a living room PC and streaming to it is a mixed bag.

>>725756351
yeah dude you're totally right i'm sorry

>>725755772
I feel like this is for people that are too lazy to figure out what the funny numbers next to all the PC parts in the prebuilt mean. Go to Amazon, search "prebuilt pc" and then sort it by best sellers. Go through the whole first page, there's some wild ones.

>>725756238
>These PCs have malware
>Show me proof
>No YoU sHoW mE pRoOf!!1

Concession accepted.

>>725746809 (OP)
8gb VRAM is the only thing I have issues with.

>>725750429
They just released 3

>>725756309
>You can screencap this post for future reference
I did. You posted as anon, what name shall I call you, when I shout you out in my YT vid?

>>725756469
>can't provide proof to his claim
I accept your concession.

>>725751935
He's disgusting antiwhite anon.

>>725751916
It's America's hat.
Though not necessarily a bad thing

>>725756390
>>725756081
samefag

>>725756380
>My question is wtfh does anyone care about this retread?
about who?

>>725756426
I am and I'm also still not buying your malware boxes, Chang.

>>725752229
cute monke

>>725752268
>Valve is antiwhite. I support antiwhite companies.
fix'd
ironic shit posting is still shit posting btw.
as is ironic support of antiwhiteism still supporting antiwhiteism

>>725756664
okay so sit this one out then

>>725756597
No, I'm the AMD PSP, Intel ME anon.
I'm on this other anons side now, just because you are a schizo. Close your eyes again.

>>725756230
are you stupid?

>>725747185
Its probably gonna be the price of a cheap gaming laptop.

>>725756169
Adding up likely bulk-rate prices for components I suspect $499 base price, maybe $449 when on sale. Sale price would probably be a slight hit for Valve, but more than covered by 1 new game purchase, or 3 or 4 sale price game purchases.

The problem with the shitty hardware is it cannot be compared to consoles because linux still has some overhead that won't get games running at more than maybe +20% the performance you get on windows if lucky under certain weather conditions. And that is taking in account of course, the gamescope session, which does perform slightly better.

>>725756721
i dont even know who's jewing who anymore

>>725756705
It's not antiwhite, whites are included as well. There are 3 of them in the images, in fact.

>>725756392
What is a tendy?

>>725755252
They absolutely can. Just look at the shit Dell and HP pump out. They make so much stuff that they can sell their garbage office PCs with proprietary custom parts for less than you could build a system with similar specs.

>>725756707
No chink malware, all smiles

725756592
ok saar

>>725756472
Why? Are you a victim of bigger number = better? 8gb vram is enough for the next 8 years.

they could've hit it out of the ballpark with sub 400 usd pricing but nooooo the richest game dev company had to make more money

>>725747045
Modern audiences

>>725756871
It's not even enough for 2024 AAA slop.

>>725756721
Based knower. Fuck Israel.

>>725756885
>NOOOO I THOUGHT THE CAPITALIST WITH TEN YACHTS WAS MY FRIEND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh incels.

>>725756962
does it really take that much mental gymnastics to disagree with my point?

>>725756862
Indians are no different, they're all out to scam you. Sorry you fell for it.

>>725756372
>You can do that with any other prebuilt PC on the market.
show me a small factor prebuilt with similar specs at a price that is at least close to what you think this steam machine will cost

>>725756375
streaming from your main PC means your main PC is running the game, which is extremely dumb when you might want to, you know, use BOTH at the same time
if you live with your family(be it if you still live with your parents and siblings, or your own family) anytime your gf/brother/kids want to play in the living room, you can't do shit on your main PC.
it's not just about YOU moving your ass from your desk to the living room.
>It's designed solely to target console players who don't have PCs.
that carries the same issue i already explained, having to rebuy the games you already have on console again, and for what? to play them on the same TV you already have your console hooked up to? that's the dumbest shit ever, and console players aren't even interested in playing the games that aren't on their consoles, so no, this is 100% not for console players.

>>725755951
>big company buys out stock
>sells on their own platform at increased price

725757030
Damn this jeet is desperate for (You)s.

>>725756002
Your whole problem is Valve has done steam machines before.
They have solid data that this shit is a futile effort unless they put serious effort into getting it into stores. And since they still haven't done that for the deck, why in the fuck would they do it for this?
why retread an prior failure just to fuck it up again?
Plus you can go down to your local pc parts store like a microcenter and get a prebuilt pc made for you real easy.

gamer girls (male)

>>725756375
>>a gamecube sized pc purposedly made for couch gaming has zero use case for couch gaming
are you retarded?

If it's not priced like an Xbox SeX, what's the point?

>>725757007
Can't agree with sour grapes. Sorry.

>>725757057
>A ""PC"" has to be small, okay? Because I will move it once a year, okay?
Bro this isn't a portable device

>>725757057
>which is extremely dumb when you might want to, you know, use BOTH at the same time
Why would I? If I'm playing vidya on TV I'm not sitting at my PC to play it.

>anytime your gf/brother/kids want to play in the living room, you can't do shit on your main PC.
Now you're talking about getting a separate PC for each family member to play vidya which just goes back to my point that this is targetting normies who don't have PC setups.

>>725757102
>inability to click to reply to posts due do shaking from rage
Easiest way to spot a concession

>>725756796
And? That matters how?
Whites can be antiwhite.
Look at scum bags like joe bidden, bill gates, timmy tencent, etc.
What an irrelevant moronic statement to make.
'''woke''' is what dickless pussies say, it's antiwhite.

>>725756764
If more devs start publishing optimized native Linux+Vulkan builds thanks to SteamOS as a stable target then the overhead vs BSD native builds on Playstation evaporates.
That is a lot more likely now that GNU/Linux based OSes are over 5% of western Steam users, and Steam Machine and INT8 FSR could push that number higher.
30% of Steam users run an abandoned OS, and 40% have less than 8GB of VRAM.

>>725749680
damn Canada really did become 3rd world.

>>725757246
buy two while you're at it

>>725757181
based as fuck

i don't get it, if normies don't want to build a gaming pc, why not just have one built?
I live in a tiny third world European country and there's plenty of stores that will build you a pc, you just gotta give them a budget and pay like 50 euros for them to build it

>>725757159
>Your whole problem is Valve has done steam machines before.
Valve's previous steam machines were underpowered tv boxes made before the whole steamOS ecosystem was refined
>why retread an prior failure just to fuck it up again?
cause steamOS is now refined enough to be a completely usable console like experience, something previous steam machines did not have
>Plus you can go down to your local pc parts store like a microcenter and get a prebuilt pc made for you real easy.
like i already replied to another anon, show me a small factor prebuilt with similar specs at a price that is at least close to what you think this steam machine will cost
similar price
similar size
similar specs

>>725757358
I like the BSD / PS5 line. But forget it, we won't get native builds, just once a year for triple a games and indie titles. Everything else is proton/wine. Even AAPL doesn't care and they just get a few native builds, the rest is crossover.

>>725757185
Not him.
But counter point.
Give me five (5) games on steam or GoG.
No emulation.
Actual pc games.
Five of them.
That are built around for couch co-op/local play.

>>725756372
>You can do that with any other prebuilt PC on the market.
you still have to do typical pc setup, install/setup steam, probably set it up to wake from controller input. yeah its not particularly difficult, but judging from how many consoles sell every generation, it's too difficult for a hell of a lot of people

725757350
You're not getting it jeet, no matter how hard you try.

>>725756002
this , and compared to consoles don't have to pay to use your own internet to play online

This board is full of idiots.
1. Gabecube is marketed towards the people who don't care about learning to build PC but get priced out of gaming by Sony and Nintendo
2. They plan long term, it's not supposed to sell gorillions, but it's supposed to be a gateway into PC gaming for utter normalfags, the people who buy FIFA and COD every year and don't even consider themselves "gamers"
3. XBOX is finished when Gabecube comes out. It has all it's library on top of thousands of PC only titles
4. It doesn't have any gay monthly fees for online services, so even if it's a little more expensive than PS or Switch, it will be cheaper long term

>>725757395
You will be a woman
You are a woman

>>725746809 (OP)
>Linus reached puberty

>>725754156
Freemason is what you say if you don't want to be cancelled for antisemitism. Saying "jewish freemason" is idiotic.

>>725755951
>Medium sized company wants to open a new office or renew their existing one equipment
>The gabecube might end up cheaper than regular pc's with similar specs
It's simple really, if they can save a buck they will go for it and naturally they won't allow employees to run steam on them.

>>725757496
>before the whole steamOS ecosystem was refined
I'm not completely in the know on this.
What about SteamOS was refine and restructured exactly?
How will this improvement draw in gamers exactly?

i'm tech retarded and don't know how linux or steamos work but like how easy would it be to pirate games? does anyone know? if its like windows than It could be worth it for me.

>>725757554
It takes two
factorio
valheim
tekken
sonic racing
brawlhalla

>>725752149
The point is that Valve told Linus that it will be priced "like a PC" since it won't be sold at a loss. This means the retards on here predicting it would cost $200 are BTFO.

>>725757554
portal

>>725757620
>1. Gabecube is marketed towards the people who don't care about learning to build PC but get priced out of gaming by Sony and Nintendo
okay so all pc retailers have to do is offer similar hardware for less. which they can do.

>2. They plan long term, it's not supposed to sell gorillions
so they invest millions upon millions to... not sell that much? and that's some kind of masterplan?

>3. XBOX is finished when Gabecube comes out.
no.

>>725757352
>how does it matter that you've proven me wrong?
Oh right, I forgot I'm speaking to third worlders who have been inhaling lead dust and asbestos their entire lives.

>>725757181
it'd be funnier if it said kills tranphobes

>>725752745
you couldn't pay me to steal ubisoft games

>>725756380
>Why are pctwats so eager to start console wars?
It's snoys falseflagging.

>>725757967
they're literally the same thing

>>725757603
Your first concession was already accepted. No need for more.

>>725755409
Hey retard. He shot the video with Valve. Valve employees are in the video on camera. Do you think he's just making things up that they didn't say? Do you not think Valve would catch that when they reviewed the video before upload? Are you fucking retarded?

>>725757751
>What about SteamOS was refine and restructured exactly?
fully usable with controller only, proton is one click run for the majority of games, quick resume sleep mode(more important for deck of course), standardizing runtime libs so you don't run into linux dependency hell, general performance optimizations

>>725757908
>okay so all pc retailers have to do is offer similar hardware
Prebuilts are notoriously shit. Normalfags are afraid of them but they will trust Valve logo.
>so they invest millions upon millions
Into growing steam.
>no.
Yes. Name one single reason for Xbox to exist in 2026. They even killed gamepass.

>>725757872
Interesting, you'd have to be a massive retard to think it would be $200.

>>725757620
1. It will cost as much as a ps6
2. It cant run those games.

>>725752745
I am 1000% sure that this number is based on their marketing specialists and their completely delusional sales predictions
>I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE METRICS AND FORECASTS INDICATED THAT WE WOULD SELL 600 GORILLION COPIES OF AC:SHADOWS BUT WE ONLY SOLD COUPLE OF MILLION
>THEY MUST BE PIRATING OUR GAMES

$500 else nah

In reality it will be priced at $800, have heating problems, and be of less value than buying a pre-built at walmart. Neat idea though to help with PC optimization for devs if it does take off.

>>725747016
I didn't think that they are stoopid, but apparently op did. They are likely feverdreaming to go breakeven after 20 years of failures. Holy kek, delusional clowns.

>>725758152
>Prebuilts are notoriously shit
and this one won't be?
>name one reason xbox should exist
i can't and i won't because there's no upside to buying any console for that price because a pc for that price is going to outperform it. my point is why would valve ask pc prices when they want to penetrate and undermine the console market? and if they don't want to do that then why make it this shape and size and advertise it with tvs?

>i'm going to make the next best fastfood! eat your heart out mcdonalds!
>500 usd please :)

Hey ""tech"" anons, is the Steam Machine worth in my case?:
>Bazzite, 32gb ram, 7800xt, 5800x3d.
>Steam Deck owner
>I don't own a console

>>725755951
Imagine that the machine is competitively priced for the console market ($400 US) and then some firm looking to replace their fleet of PCs realizes that this $400 PC plus another $100 for a Windows license is way cheaper than anything on the market with comparable performance and does just that, taking Valve's subsidized hardware and not paying them back a single cent through Steam purchases.

>>725757735
you can get pcs of this form factor with integrated graphics for like $100 each. maybe a game dev bulk orders these for the QA department but that's still a soft benefit for valve if they're targeting steam hardware.

>>725758331
If you want something worse, sure

>>725757274
>Why would I? If I'm playing vidya on TV I'm not sitting at my PC to play it.
did you not read my post?
it's not just about YOU moving your ass from your desk to the living room.
>Now you're talking about getting a separate PC for each family member to play vidya
No? This is exactly to AVOID that? if you buy this, it's clearly not gonna get the same amount of use a regular PC would, they won't play games as much as you do, so ONE unit is more than enough, just like families don't buy multiuple PS5 for each kid

>>725757554
i never said anything about co-op?
and >>725757798 already replied for me anyway

>>725757751
the old SteamOS was a clunky mess full of bugs which Valve themselves took ages to fix, DXVK wasnt a thing yet and Proton barely managed to run a small handful of games, meaning that the old Steam Machines could run very few selected PC games, and the OS itself wasn't easy to use.
On the other hand now DXVK is a thing, various Proton versions allows most PC games to run in Linux with no issues, and Valve has improved SteamOS to the point it's as easy to use as any other current gen console, plus its extremely customizable.
Think of it of when phones started having built in cameras, they were barely good to take the occasional pic, so people still bought dedicated handcameras, but now any phone has a camera that is more than enough for anyone to take any amount of pics and videos at great quality.

>>725758331
>Steam Deck owner
you're already a troon cattle consoomer so might as well

>>725758241
I never bought a game in my life, so I thought this is true. I don't know anyone who buys games, except my rich cousin on the ps5.

>>725758434
>you can get pcs of this form factor with integrated graphics for like $100 each.
where?

>>725757782
it can get annoying depending on how the cracker set up the install. if you just have to move a cracked dll, ez. if you have to run a repack .exe its a crapshoot.

>>725747045
HDMI 2.0 port also, when even 5 year old consoles like PS5 and Xbox have HDMI 2.1

>>725757782
>install nvme drive
>switch 16gb ram wth 32gb
>install windows
there. now you don't have to use shitnux and can pirate like usual.

>>725757554
https://store.steampowered.com/remoteplay_together

there are more, these are just the ones that support their couch co-op mode through steam remote play

>>725758324
>and this one won't be?
No. You are lucky to even just have a video card and RAM inserted properly in a prebuilt. And there are million different prebuilts, a target audience for steam machine doesn't want to think and pick the right one. They need a plug and play box that just works. And they can believe valve can deliver it. That's all there's to it.
>why would valve ask pc prices when they want to penetrate and undermine the console market
Nobody knows the price yet. If it's cheaper than PS5 Pro then it can be a good alternative for people who don't want to pay monthly for online and $70 games. Their promise is entire Steam library that has hundreds of cheaper good games.

>>725749709
4k 60fps WITH FSR™

>>725757798
factorio has local co-op? didn't know that interesting.
but fair list.

>>725757923
Except you didn't prove me wrong.
Most antiwhiteism comes from self loathing, self hating, self destructive Whites.
You ignored this point to seethe and shit yourself.
Antiwhiteism began when the English declared Irish as 'not White enough', when the Germans and French did such to Italians.
Find your fucking testicles and stop being a coward.

>>725758121
I see, fair enough then.
Guess it's all on valve to actually try to push this hardware for once then.

>>725746809 (OP)
>it will be priced entry level gaming pc
Its probably going to be around 500$ because thats the price of reasonable brand new gaming pc prices (with dogshit ram and ssd)

>>725751741
>upgraded to 32 gigs 3 months ago for 120€
>if I sell my old kit right now, I can make all my money back
I dodged a fucking bullet right there

>>725758675
It's the same bandwith as hdmi2.1, they just have to label it as HDMI2.0 because of the HDMI/AMD/Linux problem. It's not possible to reach 4k 120fps because of HDMI. If they fix it, it is HDMI 2.1.
>https://www.phoronix.com/news/HDMI-2.1-OSS-Rejected

>>725759038
lmfao

>>725750429
They haven't even announced the price for this. It's gonna come out next year and who knows what Valve has in store for it then. But yeah, they need a proper 'killer app' to complement this.

>>725756472
>8gb VRAM is the only thing I have issues with.

Given that this looks like a budget version of an RX 7600TX with less compute cores, I am really not sure how much of an improvement 16GB would make over 8GB's in this scenario.

https://youtu.be/w6V_GX2l9-w?t=152

There are games that would take advantage of that extra 8GB's of VRAM. The extra VRAM doesn't seem to benefit the RDNA3 RX 7600 platform much.

>>725758535
i got an oldgen thinkstation for $200, throw in the bulk enterprise discount and it will be much cheaper

Gib steam controller

>>725758513
disposable income and convenience
I don't buy games from shit companies like EA, I'll pirate The Sims any day of the fucking week
if it's some 10-30€ game from an indie developer or some 20-30 year old game from GOG, I'll pay purely out of convenience. GOG especially since it offers compatability patches and updates for games that would probably be lost media.

>>725747045
That sounds like a ps5 and ps5 pro

>>725759038
Perfect. I just realized how good that is. The Finger, the black block... mashallah good work.

>>725759203
>budget version of an RX 7600TX
It is a gimped 7600, the non-xt version

>>725759315
I will buy on gog, once I have my job. I don't get how FOSS people support steam, steam is closed source drm shit (at least easy to crack tho)

>>725759203
>Given that this looks like a budget version of an RX 7600TX
Its more like an RX7400.

I already have a $3000+ PC. Sell me this gabecube.

>>725752745
>>725758241
This is just an excuse for investors. They have to answer to them. When some rich boomers who don't care and don't know about vidya invested millions in Ubishit is unhappy, they need to come up with excuses. "I-It's not our incompetence! We swear!! It's le pirate boogeyman!! It's all them they steal our games that's why we sell like shit trust us we are great company!".
That's all there's to it.

>>725759728
>I already have a $3000+ PC. Sell me this gabecube.
You probably have windows installed
You don't know shit about PCs and security
You are a casual fat neet that just consooms
>in short, just switch to open source, a nice low power device that will free you.

>>725759728
No. You are not the target audience.

>>725759203
The steam has 28 CU, so it is weaker than a RX 7600XT. It looks more like a 7400 or a weaker 7600

>>725757358
Cite one example. More devs implies there's at least a few examples of games that run equally or better under the same hardware on linux than on a PS5. Optimization takes a lot more than just "knowing the specs to target".

>>725759728
>How to break out of the botnet?
prism-break.org

>>725759728
you don't need it, you already use steam and give them money. the gabe cube is about getting console fags to also give them money

>>725759734
I can't believe someone to be retarded enough to believe that "95% of our products are being pirated"
That is a bold fucking lie and they should cut off the morons at Ubisoft

>>725760158
Do you think it's a smart strategic move to buy valve shit for linux to succeed? Do I matter? Is there anything I can do?

>>725758925
Valve should try to get that shit going the same way they found out how to make HDR work a two whole fucking years before everyone else did on linux.
Hell it's still fucking broken on GNOME on Wayland. What the fuck is with color management and linux

>>725755281
Oh god the same cope as last time volvo shat out a turd no one bought.

>>725746809 (OP)
Something "6 times as powerful as a Steam Deck" wasn't going to be competitively priced with Nintendo plastic. Not surprising in the least.

>>725758850
Mmm nah, I'm thinking I proved you wrong. Your seetheposting isn't gonna change that, comrade.

>>725759524
>>budget version of an RX 7600TX
>It is a gimped 7600, the non-xt version

True. The 7600 and 7600XT are still identical, with the XT being higher clocked with 16GB of GDDR6. The GPU in the Steam Machine will have fewer RT cored than the 7600 (28 vs 32) and will be undervolted to 110W. Meaning it will be a gimped 7600 (or close to it).

>>725747045
>weaker than a ps5
this will never be a relevant point as long as playstation remains a locked down walled garden where you can't even choose to use a mouse or adjust performance settings beyond the absolute bare minimum.

>>725746809 (OP)
Why get braces at age 40?

>>725747045
I think it should've been a larger micro-ATX sized device and had a more iconic design that way you could slap in different parts. I wanted an AIO linux gaming PC positioned at 2-3 different performance tiers. Honestly I don't think these will sell and I wouldn't recommend one to anybody. Also the controller is ugly as fuck and the touch controls sagging off the controller are never going to be as good as a thumbstick. Nobody cares about VR. Deck 2 needs to happen sooner rather than later because Valves announcement is about manufacturing landfill waste. For those who do care about VR it doesn't do people much good to have an equally shit headset as facebooks.

the cpu is an 8400f and the gpu is an overclocked 7600m. it's not going to be expensive.

>>725760585
You can't upgrade the Steam Machine either aside from the storage and RAM. No self-respecting PC gamer would buy that.

>>725760379
the steam deck was already obsolete years ago, something 6 times more powerful than it isn't a high bar

>>725746809 (OP)
I'm excited for the Steam Controller, but there is no point in buying a Steam Machine for more than the price of a 5070. Every gamer has a PC already.

>>725760554
It is a cut down Navi 33. It is a 7400.

>>725759038
I was waiting for this kek

>>725760507
Based white man dabbing on vatniks

>>725759639
>Its more like an RX7400.

Maybe it is an overclocked 7400? My guess is that it's an overclocked 7600M. The 7600M also has 28 CU, and runs between 50-90W.

>>725752745
How old is this shit? They have Denuvo on everything now and Anno alone being the only worthwhile Denuvo game not just from Ubisoft but accross all Denuvo games isn't enough for any scene group to justify cracking it.

>>725761559
performs like a laptop

>>725757751
>>725758469
the old steamos didn't even have proton/wine. valve really expected more native linux ports.

>>725755951
>Why in the fuck would some company, like Amazon or Ford buy 10k of these exactly?
>What purpose would it serve them?
it's a computer. if valve made it "too cheap" they're afraid companies would buy them to use as normal fucking office computers. well, at least for office usages that require a GPU like 3d modeling

>>725760594
No one chooses to get braces bro
You can only refuse it and have to deal with a more serious dental problem later down the line

>>725756002
My pc is already in my living room so I guess this is useless to me

>>725759728
I'm a target audience because I'm a cheapskate and no way spending $3000 on a PC.

>>725761745
Orthodontics are usually cosmetic

>>725762314
You can literally build a high end pc for $1500 or less all in. Not everyone is a drooling retard.

>>725761753
It's fine anon not to jump on consooom bandwagon

>>725761707
>at least for office usages that require a GPU like 3d modeling
There's a different line of cards for that, gaming cards would be dogshit especially budget tier. plus they'd have to pay for windows licenses since big corpos hate linux. valve also isn't going to have enterprise support contracts which big corpos also want.

>>725746809 (OP)
An entry-level PC costs 500 dollars.

>>725758925
I don't think 2.0 can do VRR which is a huge loss

>>725754156
wait, the fat retard really trooned out? I thought it was an AI edit lmao

>>725747045
The CPU is significantly stronger than a PS5 and the GPU will also outperform it.

>>725754748
He's right. The promo was written, shot and directed by Valve Corporation. They are not otherwise associated with the company behind the Steam Machine, Valve Corporation.

>>725762721
My home PC is docked Deck, because I liked its pricing range and is just enough to play most of things. I'd feel guilty to waste $1000+ extra just to switch graphics settings from medium to high/ultra

>>725761745
holy adult answer on 4chan, god bless you. <3

>>725763241
It's using the equivalent of a 7600 (non XT), so no.

>>725761672
>performs like a laptop

Valve already said that the GPU and 8GB GDDR6 was embedded on the motherboard. That sounds like a mobile GPU. The system will use SODIMM. Sounds like a custom laptop turned into a PC.

>>725763367
7600 outperforms a Nogames5.

>>725763507
no it doesn't, it's about on-par.

>>725761672
>performs like a laptop

Valve already said that the GPU and 8GB GDDR6 are embedded on the motherboard. That sounds like a mobile GPU. The system will use SODIMM. Sounds like a custom laptop turned into a PC.

>>725752446
Just google that CPU and mini PCs retard.

>>725755951
Don't think of Amazon or 10k, think more abstract. Just in THEORY, you could buy 100 of these for your start up. Or any other office could buy these, IF they are actually sold on a loss (which I doubt now)

>>725763590
>Sounds like a custom laptop turned into a PC.
All consoles are already that.

>>725763564
It's on-par on Windows, on Linux it's gonna outperform it.

>>725763090
Yea it sucks, i mean techincally it is hdmi2.1, fucking HDMI shills just have to enable it for FOSS AMD drivers.

ngl my PC is a ding 2070 super and a 8700k so if this thing is half decent i might use it

>>725763790
Not when you're having to run things through proton.

>>725747045
>pay $500 for a system that supports pirated games out the gate
plenty I'd assume

>>725763918
>a system that supports pirated games out the gate
I'll take 'Any PC' for 500, Alex

>>725763839
>he doesnt know

Dont care, its good

>>725754997
Because the Xbox will crush it and it's rumored to be a PC console hybrid so it needs to be cheap to have a shot at being successful.

>>725761745
retard
>>725762519
knower.

>>725763839
Linux games run better than Windows. Proton is that good.

>>725764210
enlighten me

>>725747045
>>725749709
>>725755390
>>725756084
It's not a PS5 competitor.
It's not competing with home consoles at all. It's in the same boat as the deck- niche hardware for existing PC gamers, and that is because it is only sold on Valve's storefront.
Not at GameStop, Walmart, Amazon, Target, etc., just Steam. A digital only storefront where this will be buried under the hardware tab, and it won't be advertised beyond steam. Because this is a present Valve consumer item, like the Steam Deck.

>>725762978
I wish I was Sam Lake

600 dollars is the best price I can get on PCPartPicker.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9gxnYd

>>725764534
>same boat as the deck- niche hardware for existing PC gamers
Existing PC gamers had a reason to desire a handheld unit that they can play a good chunk of their library on, but they won't need this underpowered mini PC when they already have a gaming desktop.

>>725763918
How do your pirate games on Linux?

Why does valve hardware always look like shit?
>Controller looks ass
>Steam Deck looks horrible
>Steam Machine, meh.
I'd rather kms, before my class mates see me in the bus with a fucking steam deck. Switch vs Steam Deck in public is the equivalent of iPhone vs adnroid in public.
If /v/ didn't red pill me on steam, I'd still be on epic and enjoy my free games.

>>725746809 (OP)
>linus shit tips
>believing anything he says
lol lmao even

>>725763276
So Valve is woke. Got it.

>>725764276
>Because the Xbox will crush it

>>725764715
The Frame looks pretty damn good though, gotta give them that at least

>>725764658
>Existing PC gamers had a reason to desire a handheld unit that they can play a good chunk of their library on, but they won't need this underpowered mini PC when they already have a gaming desktop.
They do actually.
Do you own a TV. That's the reason why one would buy it. Generally people don't actually enjoy sitting in front of their PC all day and do like to have options and maneuverability. The Steam Deck Dock was already a way to create a Steam Machine equivalent.

>>725764620
why are you wasting money on a case on such a tight budget
I would get a giga board with a slightly beefier vrm, the hdv has all the cpu current running through 4 mosfets... and 3 is throttle city with the 5500

>>725761559

yeah, I think it is going to be close to this 7600M. But the voltage is 110W. But specs wise, it is like a modified version of this.

>>725764696
Just get your copy and add your exe as non steam game. Or use something like faugus launcher. Add your game to faugus, gg. Sometimes you have to install dependencies like vcredist, but pirated copies bundle them.

What haplogroup is this

>>725746809 (OP)
is it just me or does he look uglier now? wtf happened? i want old linux back

>>725764817
>Do you own a TV. That's the reason why one would buy it.
Ever heard of remote play? Steam Link???
Why the fuck would I buy a $600+ mini PC just to do that.

>>725758117
Linus, i didn't know you browse /v/, do the right thing, fund Billet Labs research since you threw away their prototype, you fucking nigger.

>>725764826
The CPU costs as much as the motherboard.

>>725764927
All of Linus's good hosts keep leaving lol. Jews made him "THE" tech youtuber after he joined freemasonry.

>>725763839
winjeet lies...

>>725746809 (OP)
>e it's a full-fledged PC"
no
>>725747125
no

>>725764868
old (young) linus sex

>>725755951
As a real world example, I think it was the US navy bought something like a thousand ps3s to make a ghetto supercomputer.
Sony selling them at a loss generated precisely 0 game sales on that batch.

>>725764715
>class mates

>>725764461
winapi and wine are both translation layers that take application calls and send them to the kernel. wine/proton isn't an extra step, its a replacement for the winapi subsystem and in a lot of cases it performs better

>>725765070
>>e it's a full-fledged PC"
>no
explain? this thing is more modular than a (non framework) laptop (pc) and you have the freedom to install winshit.

>>725765058
>>725765157
Where are the benchmarks to prove this?

>>725764892
NTA but I sometimes use Steam Link with an app on the TV and there is always a bit of lag and blur despite using a wired ethernet connection.

>>725765078
>>725764868
what the fuck? he genuinely looks like he took estrogen and is losing the little masculinity he had

>>725765370
How is its hardware more modular than a laptop?
You can only upgrade the storage and RAM, like most laptops.

>>725765449
I used to use parsec which worked near-flawlessly for me, but I haven't done this in years

>>725765479
The front shell isn't glued and modular

>>725765465
Probably getting old. Some people start taking testosterone when they got older but most normal people don't.

>>725765383
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-steamos-than-windows-11-ars-testing-finds/

>>725765542
is this a yt video? what's the source?

>>725746809 (OP)
WHY IT HAS ONLY 1 FUCKING USB-C
1 USB-C
ONLY FUCKING (one)

>>725765479
Laptops are PCs.

>>725765001
it's an extra $5

>>725765637
Lol everyone knows that Linux runs better than windoze, fucking Linux mogged the "Xbox Handheld" running Linux.
Tbf, thats only the case for AMD, nvidia has worse perf on avg on linux.

>>725765631
I would not consider that as "more modular than a laptop"
>>725765717
ok...?

>>725765542
those are native linux games not windows lol

>>725765730
The build it's just meant to go as low as possible given available parts. I think it's weird that motherboards, RAM and SSD are so expensive right now.

>>725754725
Get the fuck over yourself narcissistic schizo no one is "spying" on you you're not that interesting

i'm more excited for the inevitable steamOS for pc thanks to this

>>725765121
Whats wrong oji san?

>>725765935
that 70 dollar board is 52 dollars in communist europe with 20+% tax included

>>725746809 (OP)
is it weird that i want to punch his face even though ive never seen any of his shit ?

>>725766058
No one is interested in you specifically. But they'll collect everything about you to profit from your data.

>>725754725
Sorry didn't mean you>>725766058
Meant >>725754847

We're at a point where consoomer goynimals think they need a $500 PC to stream movies. God help us all

>>725747045
I'm paying 1700 for rent and 1000 taxes, I think I'll handle a one time purchase of a thing over 500 as well.

>>725766132
he has untrustworthy physiognomy + both ears pierced is a red flag

>>725766302
Why buy it when you already have a PC?

>>725746809 (OP)

First mistake with the thing is that it's not called Steam Engine.

I don't think it has a real shot of doing well unless it's reasonably priced, and what they said implies it won't be. Trying to think about it leaves with very little to justify it's existence outside someone who wants a console like experience without setting up 2 things on their own. If you really wanted something done yourself, you can force Steam Big Picture on startup and skip the password login at a much cheaper pricepoint.

>>725766058
>no one is "spying" on you
>Microsoft gets sent hashes of every file on your PC
>they monitor all installed programs and usage patterns
>literally keylogger is a feature for "typing experience on windows"
>non-removsble Microsoft recall now literally takes screenshots and processes them with AI (to be sent to Microsoft later)
>Intel ME/AMD PSP CPU rootkits
>if you acknowledge any of this you are "mentally ill"
I can't wait until you kikes are sent back to Israel.

>>725766364
Couch gaming mostly. Right now I'm using Steam Deck and while it's fine I know I would've played more if I could run something other than indie titles.

>>725766490
Why not use game streaming like steam link?

>>725750634
That's a great question. Like, if you think it'll fail just sit next to the proverbial river and wait.

>>725766249
Thanks for the update, Chang.

>>725766478
Is that why Donald Trump is working for Israel?

>>725766058
Holy fuck since when is 4chin full of defeatism boomer retards?

>>725764276
Xbox already crushed itself and died nigga.

>>725746809 (OP)
Did you really need linuscucktips to tell you this?

>>725766930
Don’t underestimate the demand for a $1200 Xbox!

>>725763703
>>Sounds like a custom laptop turned into a PC.
>All consoles are already that.

Yeah, but I mean, like... The 7600M and 7600M XT really didn't appear in many laptops between 2023-2024. Most gaming laptops would come equipped with a 3060/4060. These must have been collecting dust, and Valve purchased them at a bargain.

>>725766917
You mean shills, and they arrived once Linux superiority on UMPCs became news repeatedly.

>>725766469
>I don't think it has a real shot of doing well unless it's reasonably priced, and what they said implies it won't be
Yep and that pisses me off, I honestly thought we finally have an alternative to Windows/Sony/Xbox/Nintendo, that is mainstream, but this sounds like a niche audience device. I don't even think normies will get this thing, the steam deck had a selling point.

>>725757620
>XBOX is finished when Gabecube comes out. It has all it's library on top of thousands of PC only titles


The next Xbox is going to be a PC and will probably be alot more powerful than this piece of crap.

>>725767196
Xbox should have been made a software platform 10 years ago when they released the chinese-only halo PC version.

>>725758152
>Prebuilts are notoriously shit.

Not anymore. Same with gaming laptops and MiniPCs.

>>725759728
Do you want to play coop with your live in gf without paying the game again?
Get this and setup family sharing. You can now play Stardew Valley with her or other games in your library.

Linux can't run normiefagslop like most F2P gaas shit, chinkshit gacha needs separate launchers, which these people will not want to install, and it won't be sold in every major retailer (Amazon, Target, Walmart, etc.) so who is this actually for? The poor SEAniggers and Indians who can't afford a PC? Those "people" only play on smartphones and I don't even think Valve sells directly to those countries. The people who can afford it already have an okay PC. I guess if you really want a dedicated TV box, but how many customers are there for that?

>b-b-but it's actually not supposed to sell more than 2 million!!
Actual cope, man.

>>725766478
Holy trvke, I'll gimp something up. You could also add "logs every website you visit" but thats probably redundant because of recall.
>now literally takes screenshots and processes them with AI (to be sent to Microsoft later)
scary... but makes sense: why should they phone back with a couple hundred MB of screenshots, when they have copilot so summarize it in a small .txt.

>>725767407
Seethe

>>725767196
>The next Xbox

>>725767538
Lmao mossad agent trying to justify spying when proven wrong. Go spam CP on alt chans, sharty tranny

>>725767030
No one is going to buy a $1200 steam box either.

>>725764534
>niche
Well yeah, you're right, it's for a niche audience: The audience of people who can't stop sucking Valve's dick.
It's basically pointless for the steam userbase and has extremely limited use cases. It's a complete waste of money. All of the downsides of a steam deck, none of the upsides.

>>725767606
https://www.ign.com/articles/next-gen-xbox-will-reportedly-play-playstation-games-like-god-of-war-and-spider-man-because-its-a-console-pc-hybrid-that-runs-steam

>>725767196
Yea niggi, but imagine the fucking price, they already say it's over 1k... fucking 1,2k for a PC? And they HAVE to sell it overpriced... no one on PC is going ms/xbox store first.

>>725746809 (OP)
>more speculative bullshit and 0 facts
I hope they announce the price soon, getting tired of this shit every day

>>725767395
>Stardew Valley
Very fembrained, ygmi <3

>>725746809 (OP)
If it's not a fair bit cheaper than anything you could build yourself it doesn't really have a market because poorfags will go for the cheapest while anyone with some money will get something with better specs

Also those quotes are all from Linus, not Valve

>>725757732
Idk where you live but there's 1 tiny beat down synagogue in my town of 100k yet i see white trash with their faggy little freemason butt buddy stickers and decals on their GMC's. Police love having those things, these porkers are not jews in the slightest lemme tell ya. I can't for the life of me imagine these people as actual jews when they're waiting in line at wendy's looking like randy travis. then again they might just be larping and are obviously nowhere near the 33rd level.

>>725767407
>who is this actually for?
It's a revolutionary product because it's made for people who likely already own a better version of the product.

>>725767407
Fuck.. why does it sound so legit?
I will ignore facts and trust valve because I love Linux, you will probably laugh at me... but Linux is my religion. Linux is not only an OS, it's a lifestyle. I will buy the goy machine, even tho I don't need it.

>>725746809 (OP)
I don't care, I just wanted the controller.

>>725766478
>>725767538
All these words, and none of them are true. Astounding.

>>725751741
Unironically caused by Ai technology requiring a lot of RAM for use. All just for a retarded creation that no one actually wants and is meant for braindead techbros and fags who can't be bothered to pick up a pencil or do their own homework.

>>725768118
>If it's not a fair bit cheaper than anything you could build yourself
Even if.. you have to remember you can't upgrade the GPU or CPU. I mean technically you could add an external gpu. But still.. imo it has to be much cheaper, for something thats going to be ewaste in a couple years.
although.. you can always repurpose pcs
>inb4 ESL, yes I'm ETL

>>725766490
>if I could run something other than indie titles.
The steam machine isn't really going to help much on that end

>>725767695
I just can’t see them selling at 500+, $499 would still put the 512gb model around $530 after taxes plus you gotta wait 2-3 days for shipping. It’s more powerful than the Deck but also can’t be played on the go so it’s in a weird spot releasing a year ahead of the ps6 and nextbox while falling way short of their specs so it would be hard to justify pricing them the same. They like touting it’s a pc first and foremost but I can’t help but feel the market for a pc already has one and this won’t be much if an improvement if any.

I’m a console only guy and don’t play old games or many indies but I guess they know what the massive Steam audience plays better than many and what settings the majority are okay with. We’ll have to see

>>725768243
>All these words, and none of them are true. Astounding.
Blind shill or bait? Last chance, sheep:
>privacytools.io
>privacyguides.org
>system76.com
>thinkpenguin.com
>wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware

>>725768632
>they know what the massive Steam audience plays better than many and what settings the majority are okay with.
Here's the thing right, the massive steam audience? They are already playing the games that will run on it.

>>725768498
Most people don't actually upgrade their PCs because by the time you need the upgrade you have to swap everything except storage, PSU and case

>>725752229
>owning a switch 2
yep, definitely a tendie

>>725768254
>trillions of dollars and sucking up all of our resources for a fucking predictive text algorithm to scour metadata and still feed us incorrect information
What a travesty. Hopefully anyone who supported this shit gets burned.

>>725747045
>who would buy this?
A consolefag.

>>725768867
But consider this, that audience who hasn’t upgraded before.. what’s their incentive to if this is $800 or more? If they are okay with low to medium settings already I don’t see this catching on.

>>725768897
Fair, my next update is like that... cpu, mobo, ram. But swapping RAM, expanding storage or swapping GPU's is something that even normies CAN do.

>>725746809 (OP)
ok yea this is DOA. It's interesting if it was $400 but if its $700 no one is going to care.

>SD card in 2025
people still use those?

>>725768809
>look at these schizo blogs and wikipedia!!!!

>>725769221
Yeah, no one got brainwashed to drop SD cards beyond phoniggers and switch 2 pedophiles.

>>725749709
4k 60...WITH FSR. lol.

>>725746809 (OP)
>Console this gabecube that
This doesn't even come with a fuck controller bundled in. You can order this product and receive ZERO input devices for it. If valve can't be assed to include a fucking controller with the device then they are not taking this seriously at all.
Even these retards included a controller

>>725769221
>people still use those?
Yes! It's totally fine for roms and games up to the ps4 era. I wish phones would come with an SD Slot again

>>725769221
Laptops, Cameras, Switch, Deck and well mostly portable devices.

>>725769124
>But swapping RAM, expanding storage or swapping GPU's is something that even normies CAN do.
if they think they can't, they can't

>>725769124
Swapping RAM won't do shit for most people as far as performance goes and upgrading a GPU can be kinda pointless if your CPU is too weak and bottlenecks the fuck out of your new GPU

The only way upgrading is worth it is if you are constantly looking for deals on upgrades and manage to sell your old hardware at decent prices but most people will just build a PC and use it until it can't run games at a performance level they want

>>725769532
>This doesn't even come with a fuck controller bundled in
source?

>>725769532
They are a so small company, no bully

>>725769221
>>725769384
Nintendo was smart enough in 2025 to require sd express cards only on the switch 2
Valve is releasing 2021 hardware in 20026 and doesn't support sd express. Just the older format. All while only having a single nvme slot. Fuck even Xbox did some proprietary expansion solutions half a decade ago to ensure that games work the same on the external and internal storage.
Valve attached sd card slots from 2017 and called it a day. I'm sure Chang gave them great discount too.

>>725769532
It's not on sale yet so we don't know what it comes with, maybe it comes with a bag of gold

>>725769567
yeah i worked in IT support and normalfags cant do the most basic shit. i had a guy my age at the time ask me “what the fuck’s a Fire-Fox?”. this was a couple of years ago and i was in my mid 20s.

>>725769384
switch 2 uses SD cards too, just the newer generation of them.

>>725769893
Cool, where's the NVMe slot on the Switch 2? Oh, that's right, you don't have a sane storage expansion method, you have to pay a premium on SD Express.

>>725761559
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD was sitting on a shitton of 7600M stock and offloaded it to Valve at a discount just to offload the damn things

>>725769893
>express can be 4x faster under the same name
Why is tech branding so fucking retarded?

>>725752829
I only recently started using it but mostly just internally so I haven't cared much about remote but couldn't you just tunnel into your local network and watch it that way?

>>725770017
SD Express will come down in price pretty fast

>>725770017
>point out jew practice of selling you old dogshit that impacts your performance and consistency whole other companies provided solutions for parity
>brings up some other bullshit not related to the topic
Steamies are a cult

>>725759728
have I got a steam frame for you

>>725761559
7400 is 7600M, literally the same core. Steam machine will be the exact same core but clocked slightly higher with higher power draw

>>725769767

I feel like I missed out on not buying an OG steam pad.

>>725770381
Surely.

>>725770412
>being forced at gun point to pay a premium on shit non-standard storage is good actually?
I'd tell you to eat shit if you weren't already.

>>725770563
Are you young?
Do you not remember how expensive regular SD cards used to be around the time the PSP released?
It'll go down in price over the next 12 months.

>supposedly
>Likely
>Possibly
>According to
>Insiders say

I'll just wait until the official price is announced. Valve did a lot of work in securing the price point of the steam deck. Would be very stupid if they didn't do the same here.

You had to for the Xbox too since it was pretty much a proprietary thumb drive. I still would prefer to pay a premium for it’s convenience over say the PS5’s expansion installation requiring taking off a panel. Just never buy at msrp and wait for the winter holidays.

>>725770381
Pretty sure microSD cards compete with ram for manufacturing and if ram prices have tripled you will see a price increase on microSD too

>>725770678
Uh-huh.

>>725770742
RAM prices skyrocketing hasn't affected SD card prices whatsoever

>>725770834
For now

>>725770708
Remember that L*nus fag tips had valve people watching him doing the video

>>725747540
The percentage of people who buy this and use it for things other than steam has to be negligible

>>725770717
>taking off a panel is too hard

>>725770887
Uh-huh.

>>725766058
this is a facebook post

The most demanding of games! So color me curious how would this feel streaming to the Deck over like GeForce Now?

>>725746809 (OP)
not to mention, its laptop parts instead of desktop parts

>>725770945
He's a cuckold so that makes sense.

>>725771079
The ps5 clips suck and it’s always unpleasant removing them in fear of breaking them. Those fucks still haven’t released Pro plates yet but yeah you can’t compare the experiences. One takes 5 seconds the other 3-5 minutes as you gotta unplug it, flip it over, remove plate and bay cover etc. Just feels annoying after the plug and play Xbox option.

>>725752935
>the entire point of a console is in its static nature

>>725771495
Difference is you don't pay twice as much for the storage and don't have a stick hanging off your console

>>725747045
>>weaker than a PS5

That's lies. All specs point to it being better than PS5.

>>725747185
Yes
any one saying otherwise is retarded

>>725772443
Bullshit.
Even DF acknowledges that it's a bit below a PS5.

>>725754958
It's not for console gamers it's for Steamies. You can't even buy it without a Steam account

>>725747540
Valve hasn't been selling anything at a loss in the first place.

>>725771227
foveated rendering means you don't need powerful hardware to run vr
in that way it's actually better than conventional gaming

>>725748061
the reason that's so cheap is that it has no upgradeability with a last generation motherboard

>>725751294
You are, by definition, an idort. Not a tendie.

>>725771227
It uses a dedicated 6ghz dongle with foviayed rendering so it will be much better than actual game streaming services.

>>725757872
Why the fuck would this thing cost $200? It's going to be at least $450.

>>725752745
I don't even pirate Ubisoft games because they're that bad.

>>725746809 (OP)
How many times do you think he dropped that gabecube off camera?

>in the interviews with the engineers when asked why the steam machine has the specs it does they say it’s because of cost and wanting to make the system affordable
>people somehow think this means 800$
This thing will be between 450-600$ and will be cheaper than the ps5 slim or the same price with a controller

>>725767150
The steam deck did well because it started at 400 dollars. If they made a cheap version instead of focusing on something expensive, it would catch on.

>>725755314
look at this beautiful chest

>>725769391
>>725758837
While anything below FSR 4 sucks ass, that's still better than the current console solutions of upscaling they currently use. Holy goddamn I am getting tired of playing some shit on the Series X that's touting 4K and then it looks like smeared shit that isn't actually a 4K image, but a lazy TAA up-res for performance.
I can bet you quite a lot that the PS6 and the Xbox Retardo are gonna be using FSR 4 and beyond as solutions for 4K because yet again they'll overpromise on the actual specs and not be delivering genuine 4K.

>>725756764
Linux REALLY does not have any meaningful overhead nowadays. Wine itself has no overhead (it's not emulation, it's an implementation of the Windows API and should not be performing more work than windows' implementation on average). Which leaves dxvk and vkd3d-proton, which somehow perform better than native directx if you use them on Windows more than half the time.

>>725772443
It's below a PS5 but honestly, that's enough performance to play fairly high fidelity games at 1080p and I don't see games actually needing more power any time soon thanks to hardware prices. If consumers can't buy better hardware it makes no sense to make games for that better hardware, not to mention GPU performance has barely improved between the past couple of GPU generations, it's all just AI trickery now

>>725764715
Valve hardware is utilitarian. It's not pretty, but it's damn good at what it does like a stealth fighter jet.

>>725773589
My guess is $399 for 512gb storage and no controller. That controller is probably going to cost at least $100

>>725767407
It's for actual gamers.

should i not build a gaming pc and just wait for steam box?

>>725746809 (OP)
Wait THAT'S how big it is? I thought it was a compact little NUC-type cube thing.

>>725774414
I mean that's still really damn small all things considered. And 80% of the fucker is a chonker of a heatsink/fan.

>>725773696
Look at the SD price now, it's still fucking expensive, what is valve thinking? Are they the new AAPL?

>>725773748
PS6 is going to use upscaling and 3x frame gen to get games running at 20fps 1080p to look like it's 60fps 4k

>>725774356
yes

>>725774553
Why do you wish to hurt me so

>>725746809 (OP)
I thought this thing was smaller, wtf

>>725762519
usually but in my case i literally felt my teeth rub on each other until one of my front teeth broke

>>725747045
you forgot
>has infinitely more games than a PS5

>>725774414
Remember that linus is 5'1 / 157cm

>>725774535
It does go on sale a bit. Even then I don't have much of a desire to get it since I have a PC already that can do anything it can do.

>>725751294
>I do a lot of work on it and I just don't wanna sit at my desk for the rest of the day once I'm done.
Oh, good, so that's not just me. It got worse as I got older.

>>725770318
I could, it's just such a roundabout solution to a problem they created because of greed.

>>725774797
I also have one, bought it on sale for 377€. (64GB, upgraded later on) decks should be 200-400

I was thinking of buying this to replace a living room PC that doesn't have a GPU but not if it's like $650.

>>725748276
Can Windows even run on it? I mean as much as I would like to I doubt most companies have a use of 10,000 Linux machines. Nobody wants to teach Carol in HR how to write company newsletters in LibreOffice.

>>725756380
>Why are pctwats so eager to start console wars?
>I thought you niggers were above this.
the sentiment is mutual, cattloid cocksucker
or at least it was until i discovered that you cancerous worms were the subhuman troons behind most organized shitposting against multiplats which had nothing to do with your axewound measuring contest against the snoytroons

>>725747045
aren't they like an RX 7600 XT give or take, which is roughly on par with PS5 except for VRAM

>>725775260
Yeah, hence slightly below PS5 overall.

>>725774964
I'm someone who usually doesn't even use my phone on work breaks to play balatro. It's not meant for me but I also don't know why people would invest so much into something that can be stolen easily.

>>725774481
I'm not saying it's massive but with how small I've seen AMD NUCs I thought that was what they were targeting.

>>725774998
>replace a living room PC
why do you want to replace it? Just install bazzite and hide it behind the TV or something... and get the fucking steam controller.

>>725775367
I live in a high trust society with many shut in people and very little crime rate (in my district)

>>725746809 (OP)
>valve too greedy to sell at a loss like sony and microshit

LMAO. this gonna sell 5 million like the steam deck. it will never play with the big boys because valve is too fucking greedy, to the point it makes them lose money

>>725775053
Yeah you just hold esc when starting up your pc to get to the bios menu and reformat the hard drive then boot and Install windows from a USB stick.
It's was the only way you could get anything to run on the original Steam Machine. Since nothing is compatible with Linux.

>>725774761
ok is that why linux has braces

>>725775053
Yes it can run on it, it's a pc windows also runs on steam deck, but we don't like to talk about it, okay???

>>725775395
It's just sort of dated. I don't game on it right now, I only use it to stream cable TV through a VPN.

>>725749709
>can do 4k and 60fps
KEK. just like the switch 2, right?

>>725751276
>but 16+8 memory setup is less than is likely to be in Sony or Microsoft's next-gen consoles

>last gen console will 500 dollars instead of the next gen console for 600
wow great savings valve just did it again let me have your cum gaben-sama

>>725775690
>implying that master gabeN would lie???
calm down, I will buy everything from valve

>>725747045
>>725746809 (OP)
another valve flop incoming lmfao

>>725761707
and why is that a bad thing?

>>725775916
anon, shhhhh. go to your n*ntendo eshop and buy $90 games, will ya?

>>725776308
why is valve so fucking based?

>>725776096
>and why is that a bad thing?
Because if you sell something at a loss (like a console) you will get all your money back + 1000%, because the customers are now bound to you. If an office company would buy Steam Machines, they wouldn't buy a single game, now valve sold this garbage at a loss and won't get anything back.

>>725775916
you worthless niggers have truly earned the title of nu-snoys

>>725776609
>Because if you sell something at a loss (like a console) you will get all your money back + 1000%, because the customers are now bound to you. If an office company would buy Steam Machines, they wouldn't buy a single game, now valve sold this garbage at a loss and won't get anything back.

> Purchase Steam machine
> Purchase Steam gift cards
> wait for Steam Sale
> Check Humble Bundle for some sweet bundles (They just had a remedy Bundle not long ago)

It would really be quite easy to build up a library of games on Steam.

>>725776512
cons00m

>>725777857
are you tendies seriously this retarded or is this a bit?