Thread 725746941

>developer kills himself and leaves a suicide note in his game
SOVL thread?

>developer loses his young son to cancer
>makes a video game about it
>/v/ calls it pretentious sjw shit
SOVL thread?

>>725746941 (OP)
was it hidden somewhere or you can find it easily?
if it's the latter, then it's pretty cringe

>>725747534
It's not even pretentious.

His son was actually alive and well when he was making the video game, so instead of spending time with his child, he took advantage of this misery and point of time to capitalize on it. Even going as far as making recordings before his passing just for the game. It's insane

>>725747673
>your child will die young
>you take pictures and record their voice to build a digital memorial
>this is cringe and insane for childless zoomers

>>725747827
taking pictures is okay, but game dev takes fuckton of time, that he could have spent with his son.

>>725748310
Why would you torture your dying child by forcing yourself on every moment of their remaining life?
Again, you are just out of touch.

>>725747597
Hidden somewhere, took years for anyone to find it. Had to pull random torches on walls around the map to find it, which opened fake walls.

>>725748701
Nigger you have a fundamentally skewed view of what "In Touch" is.
You don't deal with grief by gamifying it WHILE they are alive. Nor do you view your last moments with each other as some form of inconvenience.

>>725746941 (OP)
Is suicide selfish or selfless?

>>725746941 (OP)
>damn, this place HUGE
>better kill myself
cringe

>>725746941 (OP)
>So many people go about their daily lives unconcerned with the fact that they are nothing more than an ant upon a huge rock flying through a universe so large it can't even be imagined.
Nihilistic dumbasses fail to realize everyone with a levelhead has already compartmentalized this problem and learned to live with it. Grow up. Oh wait lmao

>>725750169
Anyone who would call themselves an individualist must accept it as a persons own right.
It's neither of the two

>>725750357
Most people are miserable tho, they just lack the balls to do something ablut it

>plain or existence
It's so fucking over

Free anthro porn AIs cured my suicidal tendencies

>>725746941 (OP)
>i think it's going to be something both unimaginable and great
aint that the truth

>>725750240
the most reddit way to end everything

at least trannies hang themselves over their mutilated genitals that they can never get back and severe chemical imbalance in their brains

>>725747827
>to build a digital memorial
>gets pissed off when people watch streams instead of buying the game
>also on OUYA

>>725746941 (OP)
>goes to hell

yeah you failed you dipshit. god asks not to kill, and that means you too.

>>725746941 (OP)
searching the name + game shows nothing. searching the image shows nothing.

what is this?

>>725751435
GoldenEye Source
Guy killed himself in 2006 and left the source code to some other dude

To me it reads like mania. The funny thing about depression(according to shrinks.) is that if you get better mentally that might raise your chances of suicide, because you're operating at 100% capacity and can plan out your goals better(roping.) . That's why a lot of antidepression pills have suicidal ideation as a side effects.
To me, that says two things. Suicide can be a rational reaction to unbearable physical circumstances/well-proven hopelessness, and that depression is a defense mechanism so you dont have to face the things that rationally evoke the desire to end it all..

I do wish you could trust shrinks but i've seen the kinds of people who study psychology and its just ew. Stacies that love gossip essentially. I have a friend who does psychology work for the army and he said that 70% of his classmates believed in astrology. I'm not putting my mental health into the hands of someone who doesnt know fuck from shit and is a woman.

>>725751596
Ah, I thought it was one of those PS2 007 games or TimeSplitters

>>725746941 (OP)
Why does the answer to if there is life after death matter once you are dead? Never understood these retards. Especially when they kill themselves, something that is agreed upon by most religions to send you to the worst version of the afterlife.

>>725747827
Yes, it's cringe and insane to commercialize a traumatic experience like that

>>725747534
pretentious SJW shit
just make a new baby and throw the defective one out

>>725750169
From the perspective of other people it's selfish, but from the suicidal person's perspective it's selfless, as they believe they are a stain upon the world and everyone else would be better off with them gone.

>>725747534
Who pissed in the IV bag?

>>725746941 (OP)
This is the same old slop man - people think they’re so smart because they fixate on the fact that the Earth is a planet in an infinitely huge universe. The same people never seem to question of very understanding of that same universe and the reality around us. Yeah, the universe is big, but our knowledge of it is infantile. The possibilities are endless, yet let’s just boil it down to an analogy of me being an insect trapped on a rock. Very shallow worldview for someone who thinks they know it all.

>>725746941 (OP)
I don't understand the idea of making a long winded philosophical rant for others before killing yourself. Just say you're burdened by mental illness or that you feel like a failure with nothing to give for your family members. If you don't have any, then don't even bother, the guy dealing with your body at the morgue doesn't give a shit.

>>725751607
Electric shock therapy is unironically underrated and terribly stigmatized due to popcutlrue, but it's a good way to treat depression. Back in 2010's, I tried medication and didn't help, was having suicide ideation nonstop, doctor mentioned a guy who does ECT as a last resort. Thought to myself what do I have to lose. Got put to sleep 12 times in 4 weeks while being zapped. Never felt the need to ever consider suicide ever again and my chronic depression practically vanished.

>>725752995
what does that feel like, not the ect but the actual change?

>>725747673
>His son was actually alive and well when he was making the video game,
That... makes the video game even more pretentious, anon.

>>725746941 (OP)
I remember this incident. Goldeneye Source got delayed for years due to this. A very Gen X mindset that faggot had.
>durrr look how smart I am, better kill myself then!

>>725747534
>>725747827
you are a retarded turd

>>725747827
Yes, profiting off the death of your son in a way that requires you to prepare and take time away from your litteral dying son is extremely unethical along with being cringe.

To be the devils advocate humans grieve in strange ways so I imagine he genuinely thought he was doing something noble and humane, thougheverbeit p fucked nd pmo.

>>725750169
Selfless unless you have kids

>>725747827
>son I can't watch your favorite movies with you I have to work on this specific line of code to put you in a videogame for the next week

>>725746941 (OP)
>I WILL see you on the other side
Is this a threat?

>>725753513
>dad can you go play with the dog or something i dont want to spend 16 hours per day every day with you

>>725750169
Depends on circumstance?
Can definitely imagine scenarios where killing yourself is noble, even if they're outlandish

>>725753315
This post is too rational for /v/. Please fuck off.

Ruza could have been a very impactful suicide note but I think it was just Discord taking advantage of the mentality disabled again

>>725746941 (OP)
Of all the reasons to kill yourself, curiosity about what comes after is probably the worst. You'll be dead soon enough to find out. It's not a hoop you have to strive to jump through.

>>725751198
Ain't the whole point of your religion God coming to earth to have a huge audience to him killing himself like a massive attention whore?

>>725750169
Shellfish

>>725750169
Why would causing grief to everyone who ever knew you be selfless? Who benefits from you taking the easy way out? Pretty sure your family can't even collect on life insurance when you do that, so from no angle does it benefit anyone.

>>725746941 (OP)
Nah this retard going to hell

>>725750169
Depends, if you're sick and want to die you should have every right, really you should always have the right unless you put yourself in a position where people rely on you and you are fucking their lives up, like once you have a family with children you can't just blow your head off unless you are seriously suffering and it isn't curable. Any civilized country should offer to euthanize it's incurably sick and suffering.

>>725747827
>my child is dying
>I COULD MAKE MONEY OFF OF THIS
yes, that is cringe

>>725750518
Not true IRL. People may be dumb, lazy, apathetic, unambitious or crazy, amd life does get difficult a lot of times, but people are generally happy and want to keep living.

>>725750169
Creating a new life is selfish. Most people have an inverted sense of morality.

>>725752995
I'd like to know what that felt like too, anon. To suddenly not be depressed or suicidal anymore.

>>725747534
Why do I come to this horrible shithole anymore? I'm just rubbing elbows with awful people who just like being awful and get off on it.

>>725750169
I simply say it's a part of autonomy. You have the right to no longer exist if you don't have the desire to keep living. It's pretty damn selfish if you have dependents, but you don't owe it to anyone else to live for their sake.

>>725750169
It is selfish a stupid as fuck. You could at least use your life for something. Be a person who does something risky. Try to fix the problems in your life at any cost. Selfless would be having children, helping out your species and furthering life. Death-drivefags don't want you to know all this though. They want as many people as possible to die.

>>725750169
What a question to ask on the basket weaving forum whose word of the day is "I fucking hate niggers".

>>725750169
Both, I think? It is a selfish thing to do but if your life is unbearable hell, you're not obligated to suffer it by anyone or anything.

>>725750169
Depends but mostly selfish unless nobody would feel bad about it and you're not inconveniencing anyone. I'd bet most people that kill themselves and think they are being selfless are actually doing more harm to others.
As for people that are in constant pain, it's still selfish but understandably so.

listen to no one in this thread and unironically read the Bible, you'll be saner for it and won't have a bunch of gay men influencing your heart & mind

>>725751607
First of all, people don't get happy and then consider suicide, people settle on suicide and feel happy because for the first time in a long while they have the agency to do something and look forward to achieving a goal. Second - yes, suicide in a lot of cases is a rational decision based on circumstances. Majority of suicides happen because they feel like their situation, which is horrible beyond description, is indeed hopeless and there is nothing in all existance that can make the pain go away. Also half of the people who do this aren't ill in any way, they are perfectly healthy people. 50% of male suicide is caused by a sense of thwarted belongingess. Imagine living a life where basically everyone around you doesn't want to be around you. It's very deep shit and unfortunately for reasons beyond my comprehension (probably because we hang around in spaces that are full of traumatized and generally unhappy people who feel better watching someone have it worse) we tend to pick and choose which problems are actual and which problems are memes, and unfortunately clinically (actually diagnosed) depressed people have picked the short end of the stick.

>>725750169
Suicide is mental pain wanting some sort of conclusion to the pain. Selfish and Selfless has barely anything to do with it beyond how people feel after the act is done.

>>725759156
I really don't know why this makes psued faggots go insane. From a young age I've had really deep thoughts about existence. No matter how deep I've thought though it has never caused me terror. Even if nothing was real, I can still enjoy things, and that is all that matters.

>>725751607
Huh, that actually does make a lot of sense.

>>725759035
>won't have a bunch of gay men influencing your heart & mind
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>725759264
If it feels like no one likes you, live to be their scourge. You always have a purpose in the world.

>>725759264
>imagine living a life where basically everyone around you doesn't want to be around you
>they are perfectly healthy people
If NOBODY wants to be around you, you aren't a perfectly healthy, mentally sound person and you should not be coddled. Especially in the age we live in with long-distance communication being as simplified as it is, if you cannot find anyone who is willing to interact with you, that is, in fact, your problem.
Obviously this does not include people that are already diagnosed as having health issues or otherwise suffer from extreme abuse, poverty etc. But if you're saying
>half of the people who do this aren't ill in any way, they are perfectly healthy people
and following that up with
>basically everyone around you doesn't want to be around you.
nah.

>>725759361
I occasionally think about my existence and its impermanence, but like you I've come to the conclusion that there's no need to rush to find out what's on the otherside of death, a good reason being that there's no guarantee that there's ANYTHING on the other side
Why rush toward possible/probable oblivion, enjoy some of the material world while you've got it

>>725752995
Man I would be open to that if it helped fix the tism or anxiety, but where can you even find a clinic that still uses it?

>>725750169
It's retarded. Solves nothing, it makes issue for others.
Any other option is better than suicide.
Beside suecide is impulsive thing. Probably best way to prevent it is to just knock yourself out for few minutes.

>>725759962
Other than being impulsive I think is also arises from shit like learned helplessness and problem making from childhood. You don't know what to do and want someone else to come along and fix it for you. So you do something extreme because it is the best way to suddenly get attention. Obviously, suicide ends it all so it doesn't end up working. But someone contemplating this isn't that aware of the causes of the desire.

Although I haven't had suicidal thoughts in many years, I was incredibly suicidal for a few years in my early 20s. Just didn't have the balls to go through with it. But thinking about it, I can't really say "oh I'm so glad I didn't kill myself all of those years" ago.

>>725746941 (OP)
>2006
he's probably a level 1000 wizard by now, having 10 wives, 25 children, and having saved the world at least 2 times

>>725750169
>>725746941 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjiazF1pijQ#t=1m

>>725758985
this site is at it's best when you can do both

>>725750169
I've been to 2 different wakes for dudes who killed themselves before their mid 20s. Seeing the parents/siblings in such grief is one of the worst things I've ever witnessed. If your son/brother kills himself you are never getting over that shit. Imo this is the biggest problem effecting young men, its very common to feel like your life is worthless even though there are people who can't live without you. Fuck anybody who supports this shit by saying suicide is a right or saying my body my choice, they deserve to get raped.

>>725760498
>webm

>>725750169
It depends on if your quality of life is legitimately unlivable or are just sad about something that you can deal with in a way that doesn't traumatize/burden the people in your life.

>>725746941 (OP)
Is that real? Any source on this?

>>725760874
>its very common to feel like your life is worthless even though there are people who can't live without you.
Symptoms of a very sick society

>>725747534
>memorializing your son with ugly modern low poly trash
This is how you get haunted by a baby.

>>725761352
Some life is always better than no life

>>725761487
Living daily just to suffer is not better than non-existence, no.

>>725752995
>just fry your brain bro

>>725759264
>people settle on suicide and feel happy because for the first time in a long while they have the agency to do something and look forward to achieving a goal
This is true, but I think that anon is also right. Depression can make you unable to do anything. So a slight recovery could definitely be the thing that gives you enough energy and motivation to kill yourself.

>>725759796
>trying to assign individual blame for what is inarguably an epidemic
You are wholly and entirely evil.

>wow I wonder what if anything happens after death
>should I enjoy the 70-80 years of life I know for sure exists
>nope better kms right now and hope that something exists and that suicide isn't a mortal sin that condemns me to hell
??????

>>725747534
>the cuck look
SOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>725760874
>you shouldn't be allowed to kill yourself because somebody might feel bad
Oh no!
The ability to kill yourself is the final freedom one can have, to deprive somebody of it is cruel and inhumane.

I hate people and want nothing to do with anyone, simple as

>>725761828
being brain-damaged is better than being brain-dead

>>725762007
Mountains are pretty but it doesn't mean they are "good".

>>725746941 (OP)
>no one knows what happens after you die, so I'm going to find out
did he forget about everyone else in history over thousands of years?

>>725762007
>NOOOO IF SOMETHING LOOKS NICE THEN ITS BAD ACTUALLY

>>725762709
you've either irony looped too many times or just don't have anybody who gives a shit about you/vice versa
either way, quite unfortunate

>>725753606
>i dont want to spend 16 hours per day every day with you
kids do this even when they're healthy. they get even more clingy when they're sick and afraid.

>>725747827
>daddy can we hangout
>no my son for you see your misfortune must persist through time in the form of this videogame!
>but daddy I only have a month left to live
>yes my son yes your finale will leave the critics speechless!

>>725763161
Yeah, that guy is a retard. What kid would rather spend time alone or with doctors in a hospital than with their parents? It sounds like he just hates his family and is projecting.

how did he leave a note in game if he killed himself im confused

>>725747673
The game came out in 2016, his son had cancer for 4 years starting in 2010. He got the idea from prayer and going to Church.

You're just an angry tranny.

>>725764152
it's a coverup for his murder. just like any suicide note in existence.

>>725747827
Genuinely autistic or just a psychopath. I can't even tell.

>>725764271
>his son had cancer for 4 years starting in 2010
official development started in 2012 and he spent a year spitballing the idea.

>>725750169
Suicide is extremely fucking based and I wish more anons on /v/ would try it out. Hopefully it works out for them.

>>725758985
So... youre saying we are a bastion of truth and free thought?

>>725760874
>they deserve to get raped
Way to ruin your credibility and sound like a dipshit nigger lol

>>725761738
>non-existence
Not real

>>725750169
Suicide? Or Suiselfish?

>>725764956
Literal demon post

>>725765525
What happens when you die?

>>725752079
Using your trauma to make something and then selling it is like half of all art

>>725765716
Same shit. You just forgot

>>725762847
Do you have to shack up with Ugg and Reginald the Just or can you just love wherever?

>>725747534
He looks like a soiboy so yes he deserved it

>>725750169
Extremely selfish.

>>725765442
People who encourage others to commit suicide without doing so themselves deserve the worst.
Ex
>>725764956
>>725762709

>>725765687
There's a lot of that on this site.

>>725750169
Up to you to decide. Nobody truly knows your circumstances better than you.

>>725765687
Why would you prefer more retards on here to shit up the site further.

>>725765808
Forgot what?

>>725751607
Most shrinks themselves are also mentally ill and use their studies as an outlet to explore themselves while compared to others

>>725766279
Huh?

>>725746941 (OP)
>We are just ants flying on a giant rock in space

>>725766581
What do you mean by your post is what I'm asking.

>>725766710
I forgot

>>725762007
>>725762931
Why do you guys always use pictures of Switzerland when refuting the Demiurge instead of pictures of India?

gb2r

>>725763573
Dude, I doubt his son wasn't in a hospital at that point and his wife was screaming at him to visit his son but he was LE SAD and kept working to GET HIS MIND OFF IT like others will say.

No, he wanted to milk it as hard as possible.

>>725752079
You are gonna suffer it through regardless, might as well turn a buck from it.

>>725746941 (OP)
Would be pretty lul if he has been reborn as a nigger

>>725756540
In cases nobody really loves and you are more like an incovenience for everyone around you.

>>725758464
This is literally satanist(as in it subverts values inherent to reality not even talking bout relligion) and illogical.
You bring new life into the world out of love. If your kid hates it, its not a permanent arrangement and he can die if he'd like to.

You're a useful idiot at best and a propagandist at worst.

>>725752079
No, it's not. It's based. The hustle never ends.

>>725767273
You're jewish.

>>725746941 (OP)
>Atheism won't make me want to kill mysel- ACK

>>725767460
Seething goyim lol

>gets softlocked in life
name a better solution than the permanent one

>>725767041
Which is probably a hell of a lot rarer than anybody believes about themselves. And really, whose fault is it if "nobody loves you?" Could you have made a lifetime of bad decisions that led to that point? Can you not NOW turn around and do good until people love and appreciate you? How people view you doesn't exist in a vacuum.

>>725757797
Go look at Canada to see why that's a shit idea
>Oh you have chronic severe back pain? Just kill yourself lol

>>725750169
It's evil and irrational and should be punishable by death.
>h-ho-
Your family will be the one punished.

>>725751607
Honestly I don't see why most people see suicide as bad, specially non-religious people. Like why do you want to force others to live?

>>725766803
If you told me this is eastern yurop it would immediately become sovlful.

Unironically we need an indian S.T.A.L.K.E R

>>725767592
If the only thing you subhumans care about is money, you're a worthless cockroach who should be killed. Don't commit suicide, instead have someone bash your faggot brains in.

>>725767969
>irrational
bold and a dumb claim by a midwit

>>725768070
I care for others and i think the vast majority of people who kill themselves could've been helped and become a net positive to themselves and the world.
I think people have inherent worth and i don't care there's eight billion of us.

>>725747673
The dev also raised a big stink over people watching footage of the game on Youtube instead of buying the game themselves.

>>725767769
Killing yourself is the ultimate way to turn it around for that kind of people otherwise you are cohercing others into forgive you

>>725752209
Based brown

>>725748701
weak bait

>>725768095
Grinding money is good and you sound like a pussy ass bitch.
>>725768104
No bolder than you letting yourself get raped and brainfucked by a pack of monkeys in a zoo at the age of 6.

>>725768087
People would trash the game

>>725766803
Nobody ITT except for these faggot retards >>725768095
>>725768104
is Indian. Also, immigration exists.

>>725766803
>the real reason why Indians are pushing AI so hard is so that they can call india-posting fake
it's finally making sense

>>725758289
Delusional

>>725767783
Have you ever lived with chronic pain before? If you had any idea what it is like to be in pain 24/7 that never leaves you you would understand why people should be able to do that.

Saars we just reincarnated and stuff I'm gonna become Brahmin instead of dalit ant on a rock. Brahma has got my back.

>>725768476
Least retarded kike.

>>725768227
What a fucking retarded thing to say. Suicide is never anything but selfish. It's the easy way out instead of working on improving yourself or improving the circumstances of those around you. You sound like such a fucking teenager that you could ever spin it as positive.

>>725751198
>step on an ant
>welp, going to straight to hell, might as well be the worst human I can be!

>>725750169
Retards say its selfish but choosing to stop existing is the most selfless thing in the entire universe, no one with an ego would choose death, but let the retards that never liked anyone but for some reason now have moral toughts tell you otherwise.

>>725768812
There are many situations in which suicide is a kindness to those around you, or completely meaningless. NPCs like this live in a fantasy land where everything works out until it doesn't.

>>725760874
>even though there are people who can't live without you
If that was the case, the guys killing themselves wouldn't go through with it. They don't just feel like they're worthless, they ARE worthless. Parents who hate them and treat them like shit will instantly turn around and cry at their wake, but not because they miss them specifically. They miss the concept of a "son". They miss having a son, not their son. If they liked their son, their son wouldn't have ever felt alienated enough to kill himself.

>>725768528
>Mfw after we made deals with some shitty country for pennies (relatively a fortune to them) to handle our trash, never really caring for the infrastructure needed for it nor mentioning it.

>>725759029
>I'd bet most people that kill themselves and think they are being selfless are actually doing more harm to others.
Even just thinking about the mess it would leave for the EMTs and other cleanup crew to deal with gives me pause. Yeah you can drive out to the sticks and do it, someone's still going to find it eventually.
At some point I have to admit all the justifications I come up with to not do it (grief of family, impact on social services, accessibility of methods) are just the raw lizard brain survival instinct trying its damndest to say "SURVIVE" despite all logical reasons against it.

>>725768995
You could use your life for something else instead of wasting it.

>>725769190
Everyone has to die and leave a mess for others to clean up one way or another.

>>725746941 (OP)
Reminder that this guy is in Hell now for killing himself. He will forever and ever wish he wouldn't have been that interested in finding out what's after death in the way he went about it by killing himself. All he really had to do was to just seek Christ out then endure through life until either illness or old age takes him and he would have had eternal life with God in Heaven, but instead, he will spent eternity in Hell getting raped and tortured by the same demons who pushed him towards killing himself and he willingly gave in to it.

Every single thing he was questioning in that suicide note would have been answered by Jesus, maybe not immediately, but gradually over time, if only he were to seek him out. But he didn't, and now he's gone, never to be happy again. Forever drowning in pain, shame and misery over the fact he chose to forever keep himself broken away from his Creator and only true source of love and happiness that He is as a whole essence and being.

Let this be a lesson for any of you out there who are either in a similar situation, on the edge of it, or really just asking the same questions he seemed to be asking there.
Seek Christ out with your full heart and interest and He will answers all the thoughts and doubts you might have while also giving you the peace and rest you need to get through tough times like those.

>>725769475
It's really pathetic of you Christfags to cope out in public like this and expect us not to laugh at you.

>>725769475
Based, this scares the death drive

>>725768812
>>725769086
>>725750169
>I don't want to live anymore, therefor I will end myself because I don't want to exist and I am in charge of my own life
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET TO LEAVE SO WE CAN'T BULLY YOU ANYMORE!!!!

selfish how?

>>725769190
EMTs can suck my cock, it's their job to deal with death no matter the circumstance, it's in their fucking oath they take. >>725769265

>>725768087
Blowout soon, fellow SAAR

>>725746941 (OP)
>I think it's going to be something both unimaginable and great.
Yeah... It's going to be unimaginable in the sense that, you'll be in Hell, something he surely wouldn't have imagine himself being in cause he thought he was "good enough" in life or whatever. But you're not going into Heaven unless you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, so he just blew everything away in order so that he can rot there for the rest of eternity. And it's all his fault, by the way, and he will be made aware of that for the rest of time. So no, it's really nothing "great" for him in this instance.

>>725769265
That doesn't mean they should spend two hours driving there and back and paperwork dealing with my putrid remains. They could be saving the saving the life of someone with value.

>>725769238
Life cant be wasted, you are talking like life has value or something, life is a happy little mistake and thats it, nothing really matters in a suicidal universe that ever expands just to die, also you stop existing when you die so how is taking my own life a waste? You sound like you are wasting your TIME by living, see how easy it is? And little reminder you cant remember things or be aware of anything if you dont exist anymore, and you cant stop the procces that makes you stop existing so as i said you cant waste life, if you waste something is an event you may or may not enjoy but thats it, even those things have no value outside of your own perspective.

>>725768221
That should be the litmus test of if a game is fun or not. If people watch the game on YouTube, it sucks, if it hypes people up and they want their own copy, then it's great.

>>725769965
doesn't change a single thing. For every guy's brains they have to clean up there's 4 grannies that rotted to pure corruption in their beds.

>>725750985
>>725751198
>>725769475
>>725769907
seriously though, this does make me wonder.
was he never actually introduced to christianity at all or the concepts of hell or anything like that so he would at least think twice before he does this or what? did he just willingly wave it aside like 'schizo drivel' or whatever in favor of typing up his own pseudo intellectual garbage when it comes to what he thinks after live might be like instead or what? regardless, his soul is lost forever and he's the only one to blame for it. even if other external factors or mental illness led him to ultimately end it, it was still his decision and on him to pull through with it when he could just... not do it.

>>725770053
Might or might not*
idk english gets weird with some specific tiny little words.

>>725769907
I like to view Hell as a fire that burns things out of existence. A sort of disposal. This is why it is viewed as the ultimate punishment and torment, not existing is the worst thing that can happen to someone. It is also the only way to be separated from God who is omnipresent and represents creation and existence. These guys choose to reject it all, they choose what ultimately amounts to death and the end. It makes one question if they truly existed in the first place. If what left was human or just a manifestation of destruction.

>>725770053
>you stop existing when you die
proof?

>>725770298
Most people with a reasonable IQ realize that that shit is unlikely enough to be true that it isn't even worth worrying about, there are other more likely things that could happen either after death, with the suicide or what will happen if they have to keep living life that are much more worth worrying about. Stupid people really don't understand that other people aren't as stupid as they are.

>>725750834
Help me out brother, I could save on meds and pay off my truck

>>725769086
People want to believe in just world fallacy so badly because the alternative is really depressing.

>>725770298
You cant call someone pseudo intelectual if you believe in a myth like is a real thing, even less schizo when you shape your entire life in a delusion because you cant cope with "baby first existencial crysis" meme, if its so baby like why you need to believe in god? Maybe you are not as smart as you think you are.

>>725759796
You deserve indescribable torture
You are part of the evil that ruins the world

>>725746941 (OP)
You misspelled 'plane' you dingus. Also please don't minimise the regular feelings of existential dread I get thinking about exactly that shit and how little I can or anyone else can do about it.

>>725769475
Dude, even the pope called out you fags.

>>725758609
Fuck you, you hollier-than-thou piece of shit. They'll be digging out skeletons out of your closet with an excavator

>>725770298
Probably because the threat of hell to someone who's not Christian means as little as a Hindu telling you that you will be reincarnated as a roach if you don't bathe in cow urine weekly.

>>725771184
>the pope
nobody cares about the anti-christ's slave's opinion

>>725750169
I always think it's sad people make a big deal out of others killing themselves because it would make others sad.
Meanwhile nobody truly cares, at most they get kinda sad for a short while.

>>725771184
Nta but the pope is the furthest thing from Christian on Earth.

>>725768217
>I've had enough, I want out
>NAAHH MAN YOU DON'T GET IT YOU HAVE TO MAN UP AND BE OF USE FOR LE SOCIETY DUUDE

>>725747827
>your child will die young
>you take pictures and record their voice to build a digital memorial
>You charge admission to view the memorial

>>725771282
Well it should have meant something since fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. He didn't fear Him and what would happen if he chose to willingly go against His will so now he'll just exist in Hell for the rest of eternity with the rest of the demons, forever separated from the only true source of any good in the world, which is God. He will continue to have no respite, forever and ever. That thought alone should be something to put fear into you and make you tremble enough to seek repentance in the face of God before you actually end up croaking it.

>>725746941 (OP)
I hope he found what he was looking for.

>>725771435
>Brooo... gotta go... I'm leaving yo, peace.
>Causes a slow chain suicide, sister kills herself. Mother just gave up. Grandfather can't handle it and goes back to drinking.

>>725770298
This. Christianity is quite literally one of the most effective things that prevent suicide out there.

>>725750169
It's selfish for both sides. I wouldn't think about it twice if I didn't have people that would be sad if I died. On the other hand it's selfish for the other people to keep you alive in constant suffering just because they would be sad if you killed yourself. The only neutral one would be if you have 0 contact with other people and your death will bring no harm to anyone, your life is your own after all

>>725770764
It's really pathetic, if you can't examine and accept the world around you you will never grow, I should never have to respect you, and you should be mocked for coping like a pathetic child. Might as well commit suicide. Personally I think life is an amazing thing, that if you are healthy and hate it there is something going wrong in your brain, but some people are either in too much physical pain or their brain is literally broken and they can not feel joy and suffer from schizophrenia etc., while others have a life situation so fucked there is no getting anything out of it that is valuable, and what matters is not suffering through life on it's own but the value you ca gain from that suffering, and there is VERY little to gain if the suffering will never end.

>>725770431
A lot of people that really loved their families died or got killed, why no one came back?

>>725771724
I think you're missing the point, the threat of eternal punishment or whatever is a fairy tale to someone who doesn't subscribe to the religion.

>>725771872
Yeah, the problem is not the person comiting suicide but rather how we have indoctrinated everyone to think suicide is le bad. Also isn't it kind of selfish to force someone to live just so you don't feel sad?

>>725746941 (OP)
He won't find out suicide locks you out from the answer

>>725771946
>Personally I think life is an amazing thing [as long as you are a priviledge person such as myself]
Antisuicidefags are psychopaths without empathy.

>>725771946
I am agreeing with you, the "everything will get better if you just rough it out" is just world fallacy, like there's a jackpot at the end of the rainbow for every living person as long as you don't stop chasing it

>>725771724
>Lord is the beginning of wisdom
lmao wtf am i reading?

>>725760498
who filmed my daily life, wtf

>>725765358
If you genuinely think 4chan is a bastion of free thought, you either haven't been here long enough or you don't understand what you're looking at. Sincerity is at a premium here, especially on big boards like this one.

>>725751064
What’s the chemical imbalance in troon brains? I would love to see the literature on this

>>725759264
I think the way people treat strangers also has a huge impact on our sense of belonging.
cold looks, cold demeanors.
You are not wanted in the life of another who has already created their tribe.
Hell i try to smile at people and way too often i see people meet my smile with a scowl like i have offended them seomehow.
(I might just have that effect on women by being ugly though)

>>725772273
I am not a privileged person though, I am planning to commit suicide within the next year because I am very sick and it is incurable and painful. You say this like you are an idiot who thinks I am the one who gets to decide whose life is worth living, rather than that I understand that not all lives have the capacity to deliver valuable experiences anymore, and a stable adult should be able to make that choice for themselves.

>>725772576
Realizing that you castrated yourself and permanently fucked up your body due to a fetish and there's no going back.

Most people who commit suicide didn't even live to begin with. Just debtcattle stuck in a prison of their own creation, who become barely aware of their choices in life and the consequences thereof.
Like, nigger, just hike. Go on a pilgramage, travel the world. If you choose to die, you may aswell die in a place that's being in to begin with, not your little shat-up urbanite goy-shed in some incorporated laborcamp false-front, owned by usurers and micromanaged by their pet sophists.

>>725747827
>>725752079
>>725758237
>>725764619
>buy his game
>rip the audio files
>train an AI voice model with it
>make it read the NAVY Seal pasta
>save and send it to the developer as feedback
Here's your digital memorial bro. I bet the 'You’re fucking dead, kiddo' part will hit differently this time.

>>725772004
Plenty of people who were pronounced dead for a while miraculously came back to life while in hospital, or even those who died for a while on the operating table came back to life, especially non-believers at times who ended up swinging straight into Christianity through and through after what they experienced and having been made aware of the fact the only reason they were given a second chance is because of Jesus alone.

You're choosing to ignore all those instances thought cause it doesn't specifically fit the idea you're trying to build up for your argument against it or whatever, so you'll just say these things "don't count" cause the person wasn't starting to already rot or whatever.

But to answer that as well, those people to, if they died as believers in Christ, they will be resurrected and come back to life at the Second Coming of Christ, when their bodies will be raised from the death in a perfect state, free of all the limitations of our current bodies, and their Spirits will be put back into them and made anew.

>>725772683
So everything you said was projection? Makes sense.

>>725772576
Troon people! Troon people!
Walk like man, talk like faggots.
Troon people! Troon people!

>>725772790
>worth being in*
Bleh.

>>725772905
How is it projection when I am talking about other people who say they are suffering and want to die? What am I projecting onto them? Because I can understand their experience and share their belief that death is a fundamental human right?

>>725766803
>the demiurge is stuck in india
cool

>>725772803
Ow, the edge

>>725772834
beyond delusional, you are not as smart as you think you are, keep believing in god because something tells me you wouldnt be alive without him.

>>725767180
If you loved someone, you wouldn't condemn them to a lifetime of futile suffering and struggle. If you create new life, you are responsible for everything that goes wrong in their life, including their inevitable death.

>>725772790
>why don't people who kill themselves because of crippling debt just go book a trip to travel the world?
Beats the hell out me.

>>725772085
Yes, I agree. It's very selfish. We are thrusted into shitty circumstances that are not under our control. There isn't a catch-all answer for every suicidal person, some people are dealt a terrible hand, be it chronic disease, instability or general incompatibility. Ultimately it's left up to the individual whether it should happen or not. I'd rather die in an alley than do it myself, but I also know many others would not. Why not roll the dice until you can't anymore? The problem is there are people with no dice, and arguing about this is hard, because it's unclear how many dice we have left ourselves, let alone others. Sorry for this giant wall, bro.

>>725750169
It is selfish, but there are valid times to be selfish, like if you had super cancer-dementia like Robin Williams who would become a prisoner in his own body if he didn't kill himself.

>>725750169
It's no one's fucking business but yours, unless you have people who have no choice but to depend on you through no fault of their own (i.e. children). GF, parents, siblings, coworkers, friends? Fuck 'em. If they couldn't change your mind or brighten your life to the point you didn't wanna suicide, fuck 'em. None of your responsibility to care about how they feel.

>>725773465
>you need money to travel
>you can only an hero at home
Are you a morbidly obese mutt? How can you be so oblivious to the function legs? Do you think any homeless drifter or pilgrim is a billionaire in secret?

>>725750169
Spitting on someone you made so miserable that they want to die, only because it inconveniences your own feefees, is the most selfish of all.

>>725773950
Someone who knows they aren't long could also take out a loan and use it irresponsibly to at least experience something. Maybe it will convince them to not die too, only leaving them with a comparatively small mess to solve. There is a lot you can do with a life. It is stupid to waste it.

>>725750169
>I don't want to deal with anyone else's shit
>or mine
It's based is what it is

>>725771902
If you believe you're going to be tortured forever, then yes, you'll likely not kill yourself.
Islam is even more efficiënt in this regard, because some (more liberal, I must add) strains of Christianity open up the possibility of God forgiving your suicide,
while in Islam you're guaranteed to go to hell.

>>725746941 (OP)
What the fuck anon. I was just randomly thinking about this guy earlier today after not seeing or hearing anything about it since it first happened, and then I see this thread.

>>725746941 (OP)
How did he release the game if he was dead?

I’ve only seriously considered killing myself once, and the thing that stopped me was the possibility that things will get better with time. Things did get better. I still feel depressed at times, but I no longer have the urge to kill myself because I figure that it’s best to make the most of what time I have, so I don’t die with regrets.

I guess I struggle to understand suicidal people because I can’t really fathom not even having the tiniest sliver of hope. Knowing all suffering is temporary is what stopped me from jumping off a bridge, so I don’t quite understand how others can’t understand that too.

>>725774737
Based

>>725746941 (OP)
>>>plain

>>725752995
I never would have believed it but having saw somebody close to me get it and get better and be able to get a job, their license and be around people and actually have fun again was a little shocking. Seriously though you are right about it being stigmatized, it wasn't like a lobotomy like some people think it is because of film and tv.

>>725774737
suffering seems eternal to them because they're soo deep in their own shit they can't fathom it's only temporary. that paired with whatever retarded black pilled shit they might have listened to which got stuck in their head like "oh man, it was so over at birth for you cause you're not 6'2 foot tall with a giga chad jaw structure"

>>725773950
How many homeless drifers are globetrotters? They just putz around their city because they know where food and shelter are, just going in a direction and hoping that you'll always have a safe place to sleep when tired or food to eat is nonsensical.

>>725774737
Suffering to you is temporary, suffering to someone who's in constant pain from a debilitating disease is not going away randomly.

>>725774182
I remember reading about a dude who wanted to kill himself, so he took all of his savings and spent them on drugs and hookers. He had so much fun he literally didn't want to kill himself the next day.

>>725746941 (OP)
rest in peace

>>725775524
That’s euthanasia, so it’s different.

Killing yourself because you feel sad or depressed is petty in comparison.

>>725768812
>working on improving yourself or improving the circumstances of those around you
People who say this have never actually truly struggle in their life lol. Seriously, check the suicide rates for the people in America.

>>725776480
>euthanasia
just call it for what it is. assisted suicide. but made "legal"

>>725774737
i've used a wheelchair since i was a kid and my family helped me out a ton growing up which i'm grateful for, but the thought of being around them and burdening them further makes me sick so i isolate myself from them so when i do finally go it's not as hard for them

>>725750169
Nothing about it is "selfless" lmao. Do you even know what that word means?

>>725777268
If you kill yourself for the greater good, how is that not selfless?

>>725772834
>Enjoying all of eternity with Tyrone and Juan
That shit might have been convincing before Cuckstianity became a 90% brownoid religion.

>>725759035
I'm reading the Old Covenant and I loved the part where Yaweh killed 250 000 Jews who questioned the promised land
He kills so many Jews it's so cool

>>725774737
Who says suffering is temporary

>waaaa killing yourself is selfish!
>no, I won't even take a second to text you and ask how you are, you disgusting loser

>>725775369
>only globetrotters qualify
I genuinely cannot tell whether you are baiting or retarded.
>They just putz around their city because they know where food and shelter are, just going in a direction
Aha.
> just going in a direction and hoping that you'll always have a safe place to sleep when tired or food to eat is nonsensical.
Okay, now I've figured it out. You actually are retarded. You've moved the goalpost and reframed the argument from
>suicidal, nothing to lose, nothing to care about
to
>needing creature comforts while not just traveling, but actually globetrotting
You absolutely have no fucking sense of scale, if you believe that you couldn't travel in any meaningful capacity within whatever nation you live in, let alone that cross-border, cross-continent or even sea travel requires capital.

People have, and still do, walk thousands of kilometers with barely anything to their name, across the entire Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas. People have, and still do, travel by ship as stowaway and shortterm hire across the fucking sea.

>>725759264
>Pick and choose

>>725777476
>greater good
The only people who have a valid excuse for suicide are the ones who are living in a state of indescribable misery due to pain that cannot be managed. A huge motivator for lots of people who commit suicide is spite and getting off at the thought of people missing them when they're dead (or being miserable for the rest of their lives because their loved one killed themselves).

Putting someone out of their misery is one thing-- killing yourself because you're an egomaniac who thinks they know how other people feel is another.

>>725759796
I think you're right. don't listen to them.

I don't use this site anymore, opened it up on a whim, saw this thread, remembered why I quit coming here
Life is shit and miserable and you're all going to go out of your way to make life more shit and miserable but also you're cringe and retarded if you kill yourself or really do anything at all to deal with how shit and miserable it all is
Zoomoids suck ass, you all take after your parents' generation pretenious, cynical horseshit while acting like you're better than them
Go actually play a fucking video game or something, you cunts

>>725777660
Holy kek it do be like that. So many people are sociopaths and don't even realize it.

>>725747534
>>725747673
he had some real woman moments
>oh no bad thing happen
>better make fucking awful social media videos about it

>>725762482
>>725771143
Sour grapes isn't a convincing argument, btw.

>>725760874
>>725769115
pretty much this, if they're going to be hurt by it for real then they should provide reasons not to do it.

>>725759962
>suicide is impulsive
I assure it's not, no one just thinks "okay I'll do it" and offs themselves out of nowhere one day. It takes an enduring misery, hours of ideation over weeks and months.

>>725759796
>if you cannot find anyone who is willing to interact with you, that is, in fact, your problem.
There is an anon on /v/ who will read this and probably kill himself because of it holy KEK.

>>725777967
nice blogpost homo

>>725759962
>Beside suecide is impulsive thing.
You are literally and without a single doubt a fucking retard.

>>725778150
I hate sociopaths so much it's unreal.

>>725746941 (OP)
>suicide note is babys first existential dread
What a basic bitch. Im offended that he probably thought he was clever and smart while offing himself

>>725750169
None, its senseless.
People who commit suicide are not mentally well, period. Also thinking removing yourself from the world makes you "selfless" is pretty selfconceited

>>725771724
Say this is your kid who killed himself and went to hell. How could you ever be happy in heaven knowing your child is suffering?

>>725778435
Lol you don't know what a sociopath is, anon. That lady is grief stricken and doesn't know how to deal with it.

Anons like yourself are such immensely shallow human beings. You're even more judgemental than the people you demonize.

>>725770589
>pay off my truck
>buying something you dont have money for
Get some meds to cure your stupid LOL

>>725778598
The best way to deal with things is to go online and attention whore for random strangers. Yep.

Did this retard really kill himself because "WE ARE LE PALE BLUE DOT AND A ROCK FLOATING IN SPACE MAAAAN"?
Jesus Christ. Even retards that kill themselves over women are less pathetic.

Suicidefags are worse than trannies. In fact, they literally are ones. Getting xeir diy life reassignment surgery after experiencing existence dysphoria. Suitroons.

>>725778746
>best way
Who said anything about "best"? When people are in shock, it's not unusual for them to do things that don't make sense. She did something stupid during a time of such severe emotional distress that her brain went into "shut it down" mode, and she did something incredibly stupid during that period of time.

For you to judge her for doing something stupid during what may well be the absolute worst time period of her entire life is, as I said before, immensely shallow.

>>725772683
If you're sick, suicide is not a cure because you're so desperate you cannot see there is a possibility things can get better. Maybe you didn't get the best treatment. Like the other guy said, electroconvulsive therapy or psychedelic drugs under psychiatric observation can help you.

>>725750169
If you live for others you are already dead

>>725779142
Suicide is not a cure but just the final symptom of depression.

>>725777967
Everyone has become insufferable, completely retarded and empty meme spouting morons, coming here is literally just reading trash code spit out by the brains of the dumbest people capable of using a computer, none of it is clever or thoughtful but the worst part is that the people here think copying each others thoughts and behaviors makes them special in some way compared to other places on the internet,.

can someone please tell me what game this is

>>725779461
Gun Gun Pixies

>>725779461
battletoads

>>725779142
I have an incurable disease with my immune system, the only thing that helps the pain is steroids that are destroying my bones and giving me more painful untreatable side effects over time, my doctors told me I need to find a team of experts at one of the best hospitals in the country if I am going to get help and the are taking my medicaid if I don't work soon, I can't take care of myself. I used psychedelics to treat my depression before I came down with this, and I still trip when I feel up to it to keep my mood up, but I have a drug and food hypersensitivity and everything hurts me, and often damages organs including medicine i need.

>>725779373
Yeah, honestly reading a lot of the shit on /v/ is so demoralizing lmao. It’s not even possible to delude myself into thinking I’m on a board with like-minded individuals anymore— it’s just a bunch of fucking idiots who have nothing of value to contribute to any discussion.

Getting older while browsing a website that is full of teenagers is immensely depressing.

>>725779032
>For you to judge her for doing something stupid during what may well be the absolute worst time period of her entire life is, as I said before, immensely shallow.
NTA. What's shallow is to excuse anything and everything, contributing and normalizing pathological behaviour.
You're merely comforting yourself, refusing to acknowledge that there do in fact exist people who'll feel no remorse whatsoever fishing for parasocial validation by any means necessary.

>>725770053
Bro, theres nothing deep on being lazy. Theres nothing selfless on making excuses to not do something.

>>725778150
this is the female equivalent of speaking in wojacks

Actual depression is a genetic brain problem but it's mostly impossible to distinguish from social contagion or narcissists who will even literally pretend to be retarded autists for attention. If somebody actually kills themselves they were at least in that time deeply terribly mentally ill. People with actual depression tend to actually kill themselves instead of talking about it. There's no failed attempt there's no lifelong self-sabotage. Anyways fuck your shitty thread.

>>725747534
There are pretentious ways to portray the loss of your child while still being kino

>>725779596
What’s the name of the disease and what hospital did they refer you to?

>working
>for Medicaid
Are you a geriatric from the US? This sob story sounds like total bullshit.

>>725753187
Not in this thread, not who you replied to. This is a drive by anon calling you thick as fucking shit. Holy fuck stop collecting chromosomes and start collecting books to read nigger. Fuck me.

>>725746941 (OP)
>you're gonna die someday.
>somehow you wanna rush that day.
I just don't get it.

>>725750169
Once you die, you have no self. Thus, suicide is selfless due to the absence of self.

>>725779032
Nah, she's just retarded. I need to know where the father is because if he's not in the picture I can see why the kid killed himself. RIP bro.

>>725747534
>features actual audio of his son screaming from pain
Not gonna lie. That shit was brutal.

>>725747827
>reading comprehension

>>725750169
I think it's all about context, anon.
There's a lot of evidence of both cases.

>>725779813
AIDS :(

>>725778546
If they actually died as a child, they don't go to Hell since children are innocent and have no actual knowledge of what they're doing being bad so God will have mercy on them. If they die as a adult without having accepted Christ, I would feel bad about it initially, while here on Earth, but God would help me get over it. Then in death, you will be made aware of that person's true nature, and will see them for the actual evil and sinful person they were in life and realize why they cannot be in the presence of God, or even you now; and why they deserve to be in Hell since it was their own choice to be there. Then God will just help you come to terms with it and get over that as He did in life so that you can now continue on through Eternity basking in His Glory and taking part in whatever He has prepared for you further on.

Your entire talking point here is you being unable to conceptualize the way you operate when you're in Spirit form, outside of your flesh and the things it makes you do is completely different from what you have on Earth. You might get the initial feeling of crying or whatever over knowing you won't be reunited with a loved one but God will quickly take care of that. He will comfort you and let you know exactly why things had to be the way they are now and you will not be able to argue against it because you know it will be the truth. If your child is in Hell, then they are in Hell of their own choosing and you will agree in that moment with God and what's happening as you will be seeing things from his eyes as well.

Regardless, the love that God has for you and the care that he offer surpasses whatever notion of earthly attachment to a loved one you seem to keep on focusing over. And it goes the other way around as well. You must love God more than your own child. If you don't, then you don't truly love Him. And you specifically, don't; since you focus more on the idea of being miserable without your child than without God.

>>725779924
[citation needed]
I mean you're probably right, but nobody knows anything about death.

>>725779663
you can still empathize without contributing and normalizing pathological behavior, but most people are retarded and only see things in black and white

>>725779813
you're thinking of Medicare, federal payer insurance for people 66 and over, which everyone in the US pays into on their payroll taxes.
Medicaid programs are state level health insurance benefits for slave income levels and disabled (although most of their funding comes from federal money given to the states)
generally if you are not pregnant/raising a child or disabled they expect people to fulfill work requirements to receive SNAP or Medicaid
current regime is obsessed with cutting benefits from people even if they deserve them or aren't abusing them.

>>725779813
It's not easy to get put on disability for this type of immune system disease and they are putting up work requirements for medicaid in a few months. My immune system is heavily dysregulated and is spreading throughout my body attacking glands with inflammation and not stopping until it's cut out then moving to giving me neuropathy in areas or to other glands, when not treated now it's moving up into my eye and my ear, opiates don't even touch this type of inflammation pain. So far they can only diagnose it as an undifferentiated connective tissue disease with symptoms of potentially Lupus as well as some type of drug and food hypersensitivity, it's extremely hard to find any specialist who knows anything at all about drug and food hypersensitivities and to diagnose them, but generally they are not curable, and nobody can get any of them to go into r emission for any amount of time.

>>725779953
What the fuck, does it actually? Nigger that's turning your kid into cheap shock content. It's literally making people look at a dying kid so they'll feel bad. I wanna fucking kill this guy.

>>725779663
>comforting yourself
Lol what? Nothing about that situation is something I find to be “comforting”. There’s nothing sinister about the mom being out of her fucking mind after her kid an hero’d. What she did was retarded, I agree. But for people to demonize her because of it is literally just internet brain rot. If you haven’t experienced that level of grief before then you have no fucking business judging someone else who has.

>>725779373
What does that make you for coming here day after day?

>>725778150
Nietzsche would approve of this. All of life is glorious. Celebrate your illness, your loss, and your death too. They are also part of the miracle of life. Be happy for your misery, for getting to experience it. Make art of it, share it, celebrate it.

>>725780303
Someone with a bad habit.

>>725746941 (OP)
The funniest part is that there are two outcomes to his premise, and the one he was excited to see has a shitload of possibilities that do not necessarily include conscious memory
So no- assuming equal possibilities, there's at least a two thirds chance that he did not get to find out

>>725780303
I don't come here that much anymore, but now everywhere on the internet is ruined so it makes me someone with nowhere else to go.

>>725779142
>dude maybe someone will invent a cure if you wait
Not even that guy but this is 100% empty platitude

>>725780303
There's nowhere else to go. Best discussion you'll get now is youtube comment section unless you're willing to stomach literally r*ddit
please please prove me wrong

>>725769475
>Yes our god is great and forgiving but also he wants you to suffer and if you fucking dare try to kill yourself he will double down and force you through an eternity of suffering
>All because you didn't believe he is the correct god to worship out of dozens available just nowadays, thousands across history
I do not steal, I do not hurt anyone with intention, I try helping others.
I have no remorse for I've been helping others as much as I can despite suffering through my early life.
If the god finds this good enough then I have nothing to fear, if he believes it's not enough because I did not worship him as a tyrant without even granting me as much as a genuine proof then I would never want to worship him in the first place.
Spreading the teachings of kindness is a good thing, forcing people to suffer by promising them an afterlife and trying to control them via fear is evil and cruel.

>>725779924
But it is a decision made exclusively by the self, at the expense of others

>>725780303
I have an actual addiction that's impossible to break.

>>725779849
most people don't have any idea what uncontrollable fear of death is and how terrifying it is when your amygdala routinely hijacks your brain
frankly my greatest aspiration at this point is to die of heroin overdose the very first time or to blow up by brain before I can feel anything, literally any other kind of death will be way too painful and scary and will constitute needless suffering. I honestly think heroin euthanasia is the only way anyone should be dying at all if accidents can be avoided.

>>725747827
It's creepy and sociopathic

I got a mate who keeps talking about killing himself on a weekly basis when he gets drunk enough. Dude doesn't listen to any kind of reason, though obviously hasn't done anything. Dunno what the fuck to do. Just needed to tell someone.

>>725780587
>sociopathic
Please stop using words you don’t know the meaning of. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it “sociopathic” you sperg

>>725750169
It entirely depends on the circumstances.
My personal stance for me personally is:
I was brought into this world without my consent, so it's not my responsibility to remove myself from it again.
That said, should I ever become terminally ill or notice signs of dementia, I want to go on my own terms, especially in the case of dementia.

>>725780604
Depends on what's bothering him. If it's "the usual" there are obvious paths to improvements

>>725779823
NTA but calm down, retard. Mind explaining your thought process instead of vehemently insisting he's wrong and you're right?

>>725780604
Kill him first to save his soul

Contemplate the physological process of death. You become unconscious and your heart stops beating, yet the engine of your mind, your brain, stays functional and you enter a dream state. Within your dreams, time itself becomes a tool of your mind -- you can spend days, weeks, months, years, centuries and millenia in a dream, while in what you believe to be the "real world" a fraction of that time passes. Now, when parts of your brain start to die off as a consequence of oxygen deprivation, the faculties of your mind dissolve and the dream with it. It may intermittently turn into a nightmare, but ultimately becomes abstract and incomprehensible. If you narrated the change you're perceiving, you'd not just struggle to find words to describe it, you would gradually lose your ability to speak and think entirely. Eventually you'd become silent, oblivious to what is happening and to what you are, have been and will be -- you'd lose your cognition and then eventually your sentience.
Nothing stops this process from turning into a comvolution, from playing out over and over again within your dream-realities. Between the "start of your death" to the "end of your death", you may live infinite lives.

See, in an existence within paradigm of solipsism, the denial and rejection of solipsism becomes an integral function -- if you acknowledged your ultimately limitless potential and control, this experiental realm would collapse in an instant.
There's no point chasing any given reality, there's no point to suicide whatsoever -- you'll live and experience anything eventually, but you won't remember continuously. So you may aswell leverage the experience you've since made to the best of your ability. If you genuinely believe that the life you live right now is terrible, imagine you were dropped into it again -- but without any of the lessons you've learned so far.

>>725780604
Yeah I have a friend like this. His family is rich but he’s not doing anything with his life. Just coasting by, mostly getting drunk. The drinking I think has a lot to do with his outbursts of intense self-loathing (I’m a former alkie myself so I know how that goes). He has a lot of unresolved trauma so that’s probably why he gets so shitfaced and says shit about wanting to kill himself. I don’t think he’ll do it— he’s just trying go let people know he’s in pain as best he can. Maybe your friend is the same?

>>725780721
I don't know, abandoning your dying kid to work on some indieslop only a worthless subhuman would even look at, let alone play, sounds extremely mentally ill.

>>725780570
the very final moments will be so traumatic to your survival "wiring" that you probably won't feel anything anyways, your brain will protect you

>>725746941 (OP)
>people are so unconcerned with the fact that they are an ant upon a huge rock
It's always nihilists. Gee i wonder why.

>>725780721
What an utterly retarded post

>>725779979
Fuck off and die you soulless death cult nigger.

>>725780269
>But for people to demonize her because of it is literally just internet brain rot.
Giving her a pass is not much better, anon (>>725780136) has a point.
>If you haven’t experienced that level of grief before then you have no fucking business judging someone else who has.
Not only have I suffered loss, I have cared for people who did. So eh. If you want to pass it off psychotic break, fine by me, but then proper treatment is in order.

>>725780973
christfags when confronted by the abject chaotic beauty of reality:

>>725780941
>abandoning
You think the kid wanted to see his dad fucking miserable sitting around being miserable all the time while he’s dying and already miserable? God you are such a fucking idiot I wish I could break your hands so you’d stop shitting up this board with your worthless posts.

Your concept of right and wrong is so fucking juvenile that for your own sake i really hope you’re underageb&. If not, then you need to get out of your mom’s basement and go see how people actually live.

>>725780938
I know money doesn't buy happiness, but seriously how can someone be rich and be sad? You actually have a way out of your problems unlike everybody else..

>>725780420
I used to think like this, but I can't celebrate a death like this, this is the worst possible thing that could have ever happened, I wish I was dying from a cancer that I could fight and die from, not be twisted slowly into something pathetic while nobody can help me while still in the best years of my life out of nowhere.

>>725781237
>You think the kid wanted to see his dad
Yeah? He literally abandoned him to work on indieslop.

>>725780973
The whole origin of nihilism was to warn against it. Labeling it as a threat to Europe and even comparing it to killing God. It is really retarded that some people adopt this as their unironic ideology.

>>725780941
you are arguing with npcs that just repeat mantras to make themselves feel morally superior to you
they will never engage with what you write, only chant the mantras more

>>725781347
>abandoned him
Please explain what you mean by this.

This thread sucks, everything you guys posted is redditworthy onion soup

>>725781238
Because they have no purpose in their life. They’ve achieved nothing and feel hollow all the time.

>>725778150
Something about that stone-faced look on her face as she says "No he meant it" is extremely funny.

Oh shit, this is GoldenEye Source, right? I remember making fun of this chump when I heard about it over a decade later. I mean, imagine thinking the despair will never end and not having the mental fortitude to see the light of another day to spite your enemies.
What a loser!

>>725781220
Hypocrite that you are, do you not realize the irony that it's unfathomably statistically unlikely it is that life itself exists on earth? That weve found it nowhere else, no the exact conditions needed in millions of star systems? No, you do no consider this. For the folly of man is pride. Pride in denial of his origin.

>>725781032
I accept your concession

>>725781437
I just did. Instead of spending time with his only son, his very flesh and blood, he was making a shitty game literally nobody cares about. I wish I had a father like desu.

>>725781238
I wish I also never talked to americans

>>725750169
As an ex suicidal, I can say it's easily the most selfish act you could do.
Because you are ending your pain while fucking up the lives of everyone that loves you, instead of trying to get help and try to use your time in this world to do something worthwhile.

>>725769475
Catholics don't teach that killing yourself = go to Hell because it's believed now that if you kill yourself you are not in the state of mind to control your actions or know the consequences of them.

>>725781573
I implore you to read the post you're replying to again, you actual projecting hypocrite

>>725767969 h-ho-hold on there partner

Anyway if you're one of those people who truly believe that suicide is based, go listen to some 911 calls of distressed people who have found their loved ones dead (whether it's by suicide or not). You'll change your tune real fast when you hear the screams of loss. Here's a good starter for you: Anjum Coffland's 911 call.

Yeah this might be off-topic for /v/ but some of you could really use this reminder. Don't fucking do it.

>>725781612
How do you know he wasn’t doing both?

>>725778937
>Suicidefags are worse than trannies
but trannies are mostly suicidefags though

Talking about what happens after death freaks me out. I just wanna talk about video games.

>>725781661
I did and i really dont see the hypocrisy. Though im glad something clearly worded as a shitpost upset you.

>>725779953
>>725780250
how the fuck is this even legal? imagine making money off your son's pain screams

>>725780973
Literally what the fuck does that even mean? That the rock is BIG, That you will never be as BIG as the fucking ROCK so you should just kill yourself?

>>725781790
Who cares? Simpletons like you will live forever.

>>725781573
What does that have to do with the Bible being real? There is way more going on out there than either of us could comprehend right now, there is no reason to believe there is a Jesus who is going to punish me for things that the people who wrote the bible wanted to discourage their society from enacting, many of which would be very arbitrary for a God to care about. I wouldn't want to live my life on this earth as an unkind, malicious person who doesn't value life or beauty, I want to go out in a way that my consciousness feels pure with the best understanding of my environment possible, as if there is a God that is likely what he would want, and that would be impossible if I believed rules written by men claiming to be God.

>>725769475 Oh yeah and also, all Christcucks go to hell automatically so you really need to shape up.
>>725771184 >>725771370
Primary examples of /pol/ christcucks at work. You bitches need god for real.

>>725781748
He was making his "game" for the Ouya so I know enough that he's clearly not bright.

>>725746941 (OP)
>To give you a short answer, Nick committed suicide, by carbon monoxide poisoning. It's hard for us to say why exactly, because nobody knows what he was feeling right at that moment. From what his family told us, he had severe self depression, which they told us he was known to hide it very well. That's why it came very unexpected, nobody on the team knew of this depression, and it was very sad to find out because so many of us could have helped him.
lmao he got one-tapped by a fart

>>725781834
>I was just pretending to be retarded
Wow, the exact same mindset as liberal boomers who think late night talk show hosts aren't parroting any positions or stances on anything because jokes don't have meaning

>>725781771
That is why they are one in the same. Both have wounds too.

>>725781367
>The whole origin of nihilism was to warn against it.
it wasn't, Nietzsche was an atheist and hated religion

>>725779373
>>725779624
>Unironically getting upset by shitposts
>Getting so upset you feel compelled to cry out into the void about it
Too bad you're "getting old" but still are as melodramatic as these teenagers you keep bitching about

>>725782270
Nietzsche explicitly warned against nihilism, disaffected gen x teens who were into him were just doing the Torment Nexus thing

>>725782270
It's [current year] and people still conflate religion with faith/spirituality and cite Nietzsche without any understanding of his work whatsoever. Grim.

>>725782270
Nietzsche specifically wanted religion, and warned against atheism.
His problem was the objective truth that god isn't real, and everyone now knows this, and its difficult for intelligent people to fool themselves. That's his whole idea. To make a new religion, that's less fake and gay, so it can be more believalbe, so you can avoid being a living corpse.

>>725782408
>disaffected gen x teens who were into him were just doing the Torment Nexus thing
are they wrong though? that's the question you should be asking yourself

>>725782575
He hated christianity, cope christcuck

>>725782605
Yes, they were objectively, factually wrong in a very materially provable sense
Are you retarded?
Wait don't answer that, you think nihilism is when no god

>>725782680
>he continues to conflate religion (christfaggotry and the whole abrahamic spiel) with faith/spirituality
Work on your reading comprehension.

>>725782579
>To make a new religion, that's less fake and gay, so it can be more believalbe, so you can avoid being a living corpse.
Christianity is already this but too many Christians fell for the church, rituals, and Dante's Inferno memes.

>>725782741
>Yes, they were objectively, factually wrong in a very materially provable sense
prove it, what's the meaning of life?
>>725782774
again, you aren't "le spiritual guy" you are a christ cuck and nietzsche hated retards like you

>>725782792
christianity, if taken seriously, is a death cult.
it is about abandoning life, so you can enjoy the afterlife.
it is about no music, no dancing, no fucking, no love, misery, toil, suffering, and then eternal bliss after death.

which is why nobody takes it seriously, of course, and everyone remixes it in some way. but intelligent people, especially autists, dont like that. we need a coherent religion, not a fake and gay one.

>>725750169
Cunt move.
When it comes down to it, you're solving your own problems permanently at the cost of causing others immense pain.
Theres a few truly hopeless situations where it may be warranted, butthe typical depressionfag isn't in one of those.

>>725782935
>and everyone remixes it in some way
which is funny because it means they'll all end up in hell because they didn't follow the book to the T kek

>>725746941 (OP)
hearing about suicide makes me feel good, any waste of genetics offing themselves is a huge plus for the world

>>725772834
I have nothing against religion but this sounds like the most insane cope ever just so you have a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Nobody is coming to save you, especially not God.

>>725783001
they won't, because the book is fake and gay
of course they don't know that, because none of them read the book to begin with, their christianity is downstream from podcasts and crusader memes on xitter

>>725782935
You cannot be older than 14

>>725782935
>it is about no music, no dancing, no fucking, no love, misery, toil, suffering, and then eternal bliss after death.

nah, thats the angloid/ p*ritan take on it. They got kicked out of Europe for being this kind of no fun allowed assholes.
Traditional Christianity has that fundamental thought of the afterlife being more important than this world, but also to not forget to have fun while you're on the way.

>>725781857
It's mostly narcissists who feel they need to be the center of the universe who are the most shattered and depressed from the realization of the scale of reality.

>>725782023
>What does that have to do with the Bible being real?
Nothing explicitely, moreso creationism, but the fact your mind goes there first speaks volumes.
>There is way more going on out there than either of us could comprehend right now, there is no reason to believe there is a Jesus who is going to punish me for things that the people who wrote the bible wanted to discourage their society from enacting, many of which would be very arbitrary for a God to care about
Your understanding of christian theology is very misinformed. The new testament is a incredibly well documented series of letters (mostly) and jesus christ doesnt punish people for their sins, he came to forgive us of them. Your understanding of theology seems to be based off of reddit atheist shitposts.
>I wouldn't want to live my life on this earth as an unkind, malicious person who doesn't value life or beauty, I want to go out in a way that my consciousness feels pure with the best understanding of my environment possible, as if there is a God that is likely what he would want, and that would be impossible if I believed rules written by men claiming to be God.
Jesus Christ is God, he was well documented, and the intrinsic nature of good itself clearly radiates from his teachings and what you claim. What you seem to have trpuble with is accepting the shortcomings of man corrupting his church and teachings (which is why theology must be debated to this day) With no God, there is no good, and no evil, there is authority to define it. Its not appeal to authority, its just a fact that if you can not objectively define good and evil, morality would be subjevtive, and effectively meaningless. Despite the fact we know we have a primal knowledge of good and evil.

>>725783108
>nah, thats the angloid/ p*ritan take on it.
what do you mean? it's literally written on the bible

>>725783108
>They got kicked out of Europe for being this kind of no fun allowed assholes.
they got kicked for taking christianity seriously, instead of having fun and enjoying life, yes
the bogomils before them suffered the same fate, for the same reason
hint: when the communists take power, the first thing they do is kill the "real communists", the ones that want to abolish money and the government

>>725783087
close to 40, sadly
if you think what i wrote is childish, you are a child

>>725782935
That literally has nothing to do with Christianity. Christianity is the simple belief that the universe is good and favors creation and life. It is essentially optimism. Faith is the most important part of Christianity. The afterlife is an extension of these ideas.

>>725783253
>Christianity is the simple belief that the universe is good and favors creation and life.
Nietzsche would be proud of you for being able to maintain this lie, but that is objectively not what christianity is.

>>725750169
100% depends on you and the people around you.
Selfish:
>you have people that need you, and removing yourself will put a burden on them
>your death and subsequent funeral/burial/cremation/etc. will damage the funds of other people enough to be a problem because you didn't make plans for that in advance
>asking for a big funeral you can't pay for in your suicide note
>you die somewhere that will make mental/physical harm to innocents, like jumping off a building onto a busy street, or blowing your brains out at a bus stop / gun range
>you die somewhere in some way that damages property, like sucking on shotgun and putting a permanent stain on your family's ceiling/floor
>you die in heavy debt and rope your family/friends into your debt after death
>having a vague suicide note that makes people wonder why you did it and everyone points fingers because of it
>leaving no suicide note
>the depression causing this is 100% your fault but you refuse to acknowledge or fix it, even if it's easy

Selfless:
>you ensure you have enough money saved to cover your funeral/cremation/whatever
>die with no bills, or at least no way for debt collectors to go after people you know
>having a proper suicide note that leaves no questions unanswered
>dying somewhere where it wont inconvenience people or traumatize them
>dying because you're a huge drain on others and you're getting worse (cough dementia cough)

That kind of shit.
Also kinda drives me up the wall when people are like "don't do it, we love you" and then have no actual solution for why you're fucked and why you're trying to kill yourself, since most of the time it just means you just kinda stew in depression for longer.

>>725772803
Funny, but also "ow, the edge" since the chances of them knowing the copypasta are low.

>>725758985
Being free to say [almost] whatever you want on a website and be called out, corrected, or yelled at if you're being a dick or you're wrong is a cornerstone of a good site.

>>725783253
Christianity is literally "follow those arbitrary rules or you will spend your afterlife roasting in hell, oh and btw, God has made a baby with a 12 years old girl to make Jesus, now celebrate this please" lol

>>725782935
>is a death cult.
No, that's Judaism and will ever only be Judaism.

God loves you anon :)

>>725783248
>if you think what i wrote is childish, you are a child
I don't know man, I hope people grow out of rhetoric after a while especially if you're literally an autist.
It's not functionally or ideologically a death cult, You are describing literally islam but your fucking reddit brain doesn't let you say that about precious shitskins

I wish I could be religious again. My life has been hell ever since I stopped.

>>725783195
The people who wrote the bible were genuinely spiritual and it is full of legitimately correct spiritual metaphysics and uses an understanding of aesthetics to use imagery of genuine spiritual beauty to pull people in, but they obviously add shit on top of it to benefit themselves and to turn it into a story to tell you how to live for the benefit of their society.

>>725779979
Just read this stuff. Literally makes God sound like some deranged serial killer that tortures you in a basement until you love him.
Christcucks are absolutely mentally ill.

>>725783490
how

>>725783568
>God loves you... unless you don't spend your life acting like his slave or else he'll put you in hell

>>725783197
Actual Christians only consider the New Testament, not the laws of the Hebrews. And nothing in Jesus message say to be a joyless castrate.

>>725783248
>they got kicked for taking christianity seriously,

See above.
They got kicked out for being a bunch of crazed zealots who did literally proved why low IQ peasants were forbidden from interpreting the bible.

>the bogomils before them suffered the same fate, for the same reason
they were properly dealt with , as were the Catharians and all the other proto-incels who though they could step up to normal people and try to declare life illegal.
If the english hadn't been idiots and allowed the Anabaptists to slip the net to the new world, the West would look much different.

>Attempts at sincere argument with those under several layers of complexes.
You're wasting your time, you probably remember yourself or someone you knew going through such a "I have it all figured out" phase and how insurmountable it was for anyone to get through anything until enough time and experience had passed to wither wilful ignorance away.

The sentiment is admirable, but futile. Think of every mind like a grain of sand, you can maybe secure or pocket a few handfuls from slipping away if you really put it upon yourself but no one can carry the desert.

>>725781790
Ignoring the problem won't make it go away

>>725783481
You just made it sound even more based

>>725783838
>Actual Christians only consider the New Testament, not the laws of the Hebrews.
lol, it's supposed to be both the old and new testament though, you don't get to choose the pages of the bible that's convenient to you, or else you follow everything that's in it, or else you go to hell

>>725783674
They rape and sacrifice children to their devil. Muslims aren't any different really now that think about it.

>>725783810
Based. A god is not just, A god strong. You will moan and bitch about it but you will SERVE

>>725783197
>it's in the bible I HAVE to follow it
protestant skill issue

>>725782834
>you aren't "le spiritual guy" you are a christ cuck and nietzsche hated retards like you
Mein Neger, du kannst vermutlich nicht einmal die Originalfassung seiner Werke lesen. Nietzsche war dazu im Stande zwischen Religion (d.h.: der Fremdbestimmung und dem Dogma) und Glauben/Spiritualität (d.h.: dem Produkt der Lebenserfahrung und der Selbstbestimmung eines mündigen Menschen) zu unterscheiden.

Man braucht weder den Klerus, noch eine -- im besten Falle -- synkretische Religion mitsamt Gebrauchsanweisung, um sich mit dem Leben auseinanderzusetzen und seinen eignen Weg zu finden. Jedoch KANN eine Religion durchaus dazu dienen den gesellschaftlichen Zusammenhalt zu stärken, die Sitte, den Verstand und die Vernunft zu wahren -- vorrausgesetzt sie fußt auf Wahrheit und nicht Wunschdenken.
Wieso das Letztere nicht auf den Abrahamismus zutrifft muss man in diesem Jahr wohl hoffentlich nicht mehr ausführen. Ob jemals eine Form des (institutionellen) Abrahamismus existiert hat ist vollkommen irrelevant. Im Privaten und im Kleinen bietet nahezu jede Religion für sich, aber insbesondere im Synkretismus, anständigen Menschen ein breites Spektrum an Methoden und Mechanismen zur Gestaltung ihres Lebens und ihrer Gemeinde, sogar das Christentum und sonstige Zweige des Abrahamismus.

>>725784042
if you want to be a slave that's up to you, I'll be the ubermensch

>>725783640
>but they obviously add shit on top of it to benefit themselves and to turn it into a story to tell you how to live for the benefit of their society
Yes, like how 11 of the 12 disciples were tortured and martyred to death. Perhaps if you were speaking of the old testament, its not as well documented, but i really feel like thats falling on deaf ears. You seem to have a complete outsiders understanding of theology whose education involves rick and morty, reddit, and flying spaghetti monsters.

>>725783568
Does he. I have been living in Hell for 26 years and nothing is working.

>>725783971
>you don't get to choose the pages of the bible that's convenient to you
if you're the pope you kinda do

>>725784134
>goes insane and dies like a bitch
Nice ubermensch you got there.

>>725783971
Jesus literally said that he was replacing the hebrews vengeful god with a merciful one, thats the whole reason why it is called the "good news"
Basically Yahweh has decided to also accept goyim and not ask for fake human sacrifices any longer, everything before that only applies to jews and is simply history given for context.

>>725758609
You're brown

>>725784107
>Ob jemals eine Form des (institutionellen) Abrahamismus existiert hat auf die dies zutrifft ist vollkommen irrelevant.
Bleh.

>>725784237
nietzsche never said he was an ubermensch though, he was a simp and it was his downfall, I won't make his mistake

>>725784134
>proceeds to kills himself
you sure showed me man

>>725783579
>always been a big atheist
>no gods, no religion, you don't go anywhere when you die because you're dead, "you" are just electrical pulses controlling a meat suit
>despite this, I'm a huge advocate for being religious
People need shit to believe in, so long as it's generally "good" and doesn't end up with you in shouting matches and/or violence with people who disagree with you.
People NEED shit to believe in.
Godless zoomers and Gen A and Millennials, they're all to blame for half the shit becoming so deviant and fucked just going around breaking shit because YOLO or whatever, aborting kids regularly, cheering when a political opponent gets shot and dies, pushing for chemical and surgical cosmetic alterations to kids, all of it.

I could go on about this, but the thread doesn't have much space left and it's off-topic anyway.

>>725784242
jews can canonically bargain with god to be less mean

>>725782834
>prove it, what's the meaning of life?
Whatever gives you meaning, fake irony christcuck

>>725784242
The Old Testament was an attempt to explain an all powerful being that is omnipresent and faceless to a bunch of illiterate farmers. The New Testament is able to give God's true message now that humanity has come to understand the concept deeper. Many people don't realize this.

>>725784364
he didn't kill himself though, and there's strong evidence he had some sort of illness, he always had headache since he was a kid

>>725747673
This is why democrats shouldn't be allowed to vote

>>725783810
God loves you unconditionally actually. God could just force you to worship and love him but respects your wishes if you do not want anything to do with him.

>he'll put you in hell
the fiery depictions you know of hell are not biblical btw, hell is just a state of being cut off from God and considering the way you talk, its what you wish for

>>725784382
>People NEED shit to believe in.
Corpos and government are your new Gods now. You better start liking them.

>>725784516
I was talking about your standard big strong nihilist like the pussy in the OP but the fact that your main guy is also a bitch and you're coping about it sounds funny too

>>725747534
>bald
>glasses
>beard
>shorts
>fucking flip flops
That's his wife's son he's holding.

>>725784657
>you're coping
no one cope more than religious fucks though, they can't handle reality and absurdism so they invent some sort of fiction where they're supposed to have a mission to get an afterlife or something lmao

>>725750240
Fucking kek

>>725784765
reality literally doesn't make sense though, we know nothing

>>725784160
around that age i had a bad breakup, a family member dying and became a neet for a long ass time, felt like wanting to die for the longest time but now I haven't been happier since forever. Shit does get better with or without Christ

>>725784765
I just can't take your """ubermensch""" seriously when the objective reality points to them living more miserable lives in general, feel free to cope with your suicide tho, it's fun to look at you all dropping like flies

>>725784896
>reality literally doesn't make sense though
it doesn't, and Albert Camus tell us to stop trying to look for sense and accept that we live in an absurd word
>but life has no meaning!
>"and?"

>>725746941 (OP)
this'll be on my headstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSWil4kOyq8

This thead sure is full of fedora tipping

>>725784140
On one layer the bible is a book telling the peasants how to live, another layer is that it is a series of stories explaining metaphysics, much of it based loosely off of historical events. You can pretend that if you believe everything in it when you die everything will just turn out fine automatically, but that is a cope.

>>725785010
>I just can't take your """ubermensch""" seriously when the objective reality points to them living more miserable lives in general
that's a troon talking point btw
>"I know I'm a male but please can you pretend I'm a woman, that makes me more happy!"
if you want to accept delusion for more delusional happiness, you're woke

>>725785046
you know who had an arc? Noah

>>725785136
>troons out of nowhere
you do know the religious demographic of them do you?

>>725750169
Depends. I don't think the original an hero kid should be treated like anything but garbage. But someone like that Amanda girl who killed herself because those pedos stalked and harassed her for years to the point where she mentally broke to that point is someone who should be honored.

>>725785265
again, if you want to add delusion to your life to be more happy, you're not that much different to a troon

>>725769475
Why would he be in hell if he doesn't believe in it?

>>725785049
fedora tippers are the biggest suicide winnies so it's only natural, nothing makes me happier than hearing about them making the world better by removing themselves from it

>>725784140
>You seem to have a complete outsiders understanding of theology whose education involves rick and morty, reddit, and flying spaghetti monsters.
First time? Atheists are the most retarded fuckers on earth which is why they compensate so hard by CONSTANTLY asserting how smart they are, We're literally having this discussion because they got insecure

>>725785328
Women are so pathetic. They truly are not equals.

>>725785049
>>725785393
the most death was due to religion cuck wars, not suicide lol

>>725762007
Bet you also gawk at the skybox to judge a shitty game.

>>725766803
India is humanity gnostards love so much, Switzerland was bult by the demiurge.

>>725785347
the one in delusion is you my dude, deluded troons aren't the ones that share your mindset and deluded into thinking you understand enough of the universe to reach a conclusion about religion

>>725785571
>the one in delusion is you my dude
how? I'm not the one believing in a skydaddy and his son having the power to transform water into wine, I'm not the one believing snakes can talk and shit, what are you talking about?

>>725769475
Not reading all that, please do the needful.

>>725785393
Why do reddit fags bitch about school shootings but then claim humans should go extinct

>>725785223
Hey its the Pokeman cards guy. Way ahead of his time ngl

>>725785360
Why do you think you have a say in it?

>>725785571
We don't understand enough to reach a conclusion about religion, which is why it's so funny that you are still coping with stories men made up thousands of years ago to help the idiots cope with death.

>>725785532
>doesn't understand religion OR history
figures

>>725751607
yeah, that's why BPD subhumans are so fucking suicidal, constantly pingponging between depression and mania. one long depression stint and you want to end it all, followed by a properly timed manic phase and it's all over since you now have overwhelming power and energy all directed towards becoming an hero

>>725783371
Japcoded post. Only the mindset of a cucked shame-based society like theirs could write such seething drivel.

>>725785778
we wouldn't have those war deaths if religion never existed btw, millions of people died because they believed their skydaddy was better than their ennemy's skydaddy kek

>>725785698
they want to have their cake and eat it in case of morality, if you're a fedora tipper objective morality does not exist but also you NEED to feel morally superior so they have no morality on some things but also life is sacred on others (even tho by their own definition life is objectively not a good thing)

>>725750169
I tried to kill myself and now I want people to wish I did because I don't tske shit from anyone and am now more than fucking willing to fuck anyone up for any petty reason.

>>725785879
>we wouldn't have those war deaths if religion never existed btw
again, you don't know history, family guy is not substitute for a history book

>>725785031
See, the thing is, it would be one thing for an absurdist to say with how strange people and life can be at any moment that we can only imagine Sisyphus has labyrinthine designs we're unaware of for escape or revenge despite his seemingly inescapable torments, which in a telling of Heracles and Atlas is illustrated as likely, but to assume those trapped within suffering are or become zen with it sounds more like the musings of a sadist.

In fact, Sade was quite convinced his deranged behavior was a boon.

>>725780250
https://youtu.be/mJbwy459VkY?si=MEg090nQVmJ5Qx5B
lo and behold

>>725780778
because the guy wasnt agreeing that it was pretentious when he was bringing up the fact the guy made the game while the kid was alive. he was saying it went beyond pretentious into some kind of disgusting grim territory.

>>725785010
>>725784765
Native american english speakers shouldn't be provided translations, let alone allowed to read any work ever penned in another language. It's virtually impossible to phrase anything remotely complex in a way that'd allow someone raised on the world's shittiest creole to approximate its meaning, let alone really understand it.

Nietzsche's Ubermensch is as far, far away from Nihilism or an advertisment thereof, as you can possibly be. You could only possibly believe the Ubermensch to be nihilst if, and only if, you have never contemplated life and never engaged with ANY other religion and system of belief than some flavor of Abrahamism, in particualar Christianity. God, to Nietzsche's Ubermensch, is just an egregore - the farthest you can possibly get from an actual 'Common Denominator' in the Greek (or any other pre-Abrahamic) understanding of the world. It is dictate and dogma passed on from a select few. It is a construct and the mascot of deicide (= millenia of human experience, lessons and creation) and dressed up nihilism, prompting the Ubermensch to ignore the world around him - to not look for any knowledge, any meaning, any experience beyond the words of sophists.

>>725785328
>that Amanda girl who
Who?

>>725786170
no, you misunderstood the end of the book, Camus said
>One MUST find Sisyphus happy
it's not like you have to like his faith, more like he has no choice but to deal with it, and find purpose on his fate. Sisyphus is ironically a more free man than others because he was one of the only ones who dared to fight against the gods, he prefered to try and fight (and eventually lose the battle) than do nothing

>>725746941 (OP)
>plain

>>725746941 (OP)
Fucking idiot. And goldeneye64 was shit.
I didn't read that plaque. He didn't deserve time and a thread.

Stop selecting this shit.

N

>>725786717
ChatGPT post

>>725780889
I'm currently coping with this kind of shit, I think you're right but I also think you're deeply schizophrenic. I feel like such a failure of a creator, total timeline annihilation, quantum suicide into harsh determinism to the point where despite my ability to play god within this dream I ultimately know I am the one responsible for the state of the broken world, not necessarily because the demiurge is flawed but precisely because their attempt to resolve him ends up being the self cause. Lets say you're even aware you're in a time loop, you still are never going to actually achieve free will to deviate from what was always going to be. You have until April 17th 2036 4:32pm Est I suppose, before I can no longer maintain the illusion of this world despite my love for it and its people.

>>725786345
Not clicking that shit nigger

>>725786405
not him but you sound like a massive faggot lol

>>725746941 (OP)
>WHY AM I AN ANT!!!
>I WANNA BE THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!

why do depressed people always think like this?

>>725785879
>call yourself rational and objetive
>spews some absolute bullshit that's objectively wrong
your average "intelligent" atheist

>>725770298
This is why I hate religious fagots. They are even more inhuman and unempathetic that high school atheists. You have a man completely lost and begging for someone to reach put for them and instead of giving them that hand to show them the way you mock them and berate them about how they are sinful. Of god truely cared for him he would either have reached out to him already and stopped or would understand his condition and forgive him instead of casting him to hell.

>>725785065
>You can pretend that if you believe everything in it when you die everything will just turn out fine automatically, but that is a cope.
Christianity never taught this and is a recent product of jewish corrupted evangelical heresies. Have you ever even stopped to think what the "baptism by fire" even implies?

>>725787080
it's true though, religion has set us back to middle ages and we lost hundreds of years of science improvement, don't forget that they threatened to kill Galileo because he proved that earth was not on the center of the universe and was shattering the lies of that christcuck book lmao

>>725787137
>Of god truely cared for him he would either have reached out to him already and stopped or would understand his condition and forgive him instead of casting him to hell.
if god exists he's really a sadist, the vast majority of the world live in third world turd countries like India, poor souls lol

>>725752995
>develop zipzap powers
>can now hack into the mainframe just by touching it
>electrocute your enemies
>no longer depressed
This is what the pharma jew took from us

>>725786831
>deeply schizophrenic
In [current year] that's a compliment.
>total timeline annihilation, quantum suicide
That's a lot of branding and obfuscation.
>my ability to play god within this dream I ultimately know I am the one responsible for the state of the broken world
It's all about agency. You cannot possibly hope to change the world, if you cannot even change yourself -- no matter under what paradigm you believe to live.
>not necessarily because the demiurge is flawed but precisely because their attempt to resolve him ends up being the self cause
Well, it may sound like an empty platitude, but you ultimately have to come to terms with an uncomfortable truth: not everything needs to be changed, much less change for the better. One of the most basic requirement of existence is duality, you cannot and should not try to completely wipe out and forever avoid "the bad" in your life. The more you struggle against it, the more you'll ultimately attract it -- so you could say, you become the cause yourself and an unwitting actor in a self-fullfilling prophecy.
>Lets say you're even aware you're in a time loop, you still are never going to actually achieve free will to deviate from what was always going to be.
Time is a petty construct, time itself has no dimension. You judge it by the change you perceive -- that's why I don't believe in even so much as the possibility of a time loop. There's a loop, a loop of infinite lives. I don't believe that even two lives are the same. They may be similar, but never identical. See, the issue with free will itself is that, by virtue of it, you may abstain from it. So, when does you choice to abstain from it is itself a conscious or unconscious attempt to protect yourself from the consequences of your actions and the burden of your responsibility?
>You have until April 17th 2036 4:32pm Est I suppose, before I can no longer maintain the illusion of this world despite my love for it and its people.
Oy vey.

>>725786979
>not him but you sound like a massive faggot lol
I suffer crippling monolingual-turbomutt fatigue.

If God really exists, then there's no reason for organized religion to exist. Why does God expect people to believe the words of strangers that fancy themselves as kings?

>>725787258
>implying religion started in the middle ages and the romans weren't christians for hundreds of years
>Galileo was threatened with death (he wasn't)
>scholasticism wasn't a thing and science just sprung out of nowhere in the 1600s
>wars totally stopped after religion and government separated and didn't only stopped getting worse and worse until mutually assured world destruction was a thing
dude, did you failed 3rd grade history?

>>725750169
Depends on the situation.
If I kill myself in the middle of my room using something my family could use the yeah, it is selfish because now they have to deal with the fallout of my corpse. Now they have to clean it, hire and buy somethings to hold a funeral, get questioned by the very likely corrupt cops of my town and possibly even blackmailed with fake evidence or something small and unrelated to my death but still mildly illegal that we are probably unaware of.
Now, removing my useless ass of the equation that is trying to not be a burden without burdening them further so they don't have to spent money on feeding me and keeping me healthy, I've thought about it and the best way would be to just strip naked, take a plastic bag, just a bit of tape, a note that pretty much says I'm leaving, and a string that no one will miss.
Then go to the near by forest or mountain without any path in which I'm sure if they ever find you it will be as a bleached skeleton.
All i have to do now is to put the bag on my, put the string, then put the tape around it, and take a nap.
There is now no fallout, they will must assume i skipped town and i don't want to be found, they will never realise i didn't took anything with me and that everything i took was things that are either disposable, easely misplaced and not accounted for.
Just to sell on the illusion, I could just throw my ID into a random trash can in different locations.
Even if they try to look for me, they won't find anything and they will have to give up. Nobody should be charging them anything for attempting and failing to find me, and chances are they will think I'm still alive, which won't make them sad and instead just be pissed at me for wasting some of their time.
We are not making as much money as we wish, house is falling appart, mom is always at the verge of a nervous breakdown, dad is gone, and I still haven't been able to get a proper job in 3 years. Im really considering it anons.

>>725787923
>Galileo was threatened with death (he wasn't)
he was lol

>>725787757
I don't perceive, I ran out of entropy for that. Also unfortunately I don't seem to experience infinite lives, I'm just forced to experience this one over and over. Like I said, super determinism to the point of being a prismic p-zombie. It's very over. Many achieve chim, I'm zero sum.

>>725787895
>Why does God expect people to believe the words of strangers that fancy themselves as kings?
because god supposedly created them and he knows they're a bunch of retards willing to believe talking snake if it means they have now a meaning in life or something lool

>>725747827
if I'm dying from cancer and my parents shove a fucking camera in my face I'm using whatever strength remains in my body to knock that shit out their hands and berate them, at least give solace me in my final hours

>>725786519
You can't say here full name here, but ypu can google her because she made that famous youtube video of her telling her story with note cards. Pretty much when she was 12 some pedos tried grooming her and failed so they stalked and harassed her till she killed herself. Her family had to move schools every year because the pedos would make fake social media accounts, add everyone at her school and start making rumors and spreading what little nudes they had of her around. The pedos where all based out of Israel too.

>>725787895
>>725787337
>Wow you want me to worship you just because you created life? Abusive much? You won't even let us fuck eachothers bumhole because it grosses you out, you scumbag!
FYI if I was god i'd kill you

>>725788037
>Also unfortunately I don't seem to experience infinite lives, I'm just forced to experience this one over and over.
Mein Neger, to believe that you'd have to believe -- or rather have -- continous memory. In which case the only thing stopping you from winning a lotttery is faggy, crippling self-pity and adherence to set of retarded rules. Hell, if I did believe to live the same singular life again and again, I'd try to break whatever metaphysical rules shakle me out of nothing but spite and a tiny speck of curiosity. Some cosmic nigger wants to see me run about in a maze or hamster wheel? Fuck him, I'll live forever and I'll make him regret, even especially if that nigger is my cosmic alter ego.

>>725788563
>have to believe to have -- or rather really do have -- continous memory
Bleh, terrible sentence.

>>725788457
Why would god create kids who can't walk or live in India and at the same time create kids that'll end up in rich families, be good looking etc...

>>725788671
thats why god made you to correct that problem

>>725788671
the kids in india kill themselves less frequently than the rich kids so I dunno

>>725785862
>be completely white American with DNA from all over Europe
>doesn't watch anime
>doesn't read manga
>barely watches cartoons at all
>gets called "jap-coded"

I mean sure, the selfish list is really only relevant if you give a singular fuck about other people, and if you're killing yourself there's obviously no reason to follow some anon's guidelines, so my shit's just there to gawk at and doesn't really matter.

>>725788775
>that's a miracle, I can walk again, thank you god!
says no one ever :(

>>725788457
Why does god need proselytizers, some of which have dubious moral character, to peddle his religion? Why does one have to learn about god from a second hand source?

>>725788671
Are you retarded? You're just proving my point
He doesn't fucking owe you moderation to every second, how fucking entitled can you be? You want a fucking omnipotent mommy to change your diapers you pathetic redditor

>>725788895
>You want a fucking omnipotent mommy to change your diapers you pathetic redditor
yet he's giving this fate to fucking DiCaprio, why him and not you?

>>725769475
The rule about suicide exists only because christfags would try to speedrun their way to heaven if it didn't. So it's very thoughtful of someone who came up with these rules to include this one.

>>725788864
>says no one ever :(
>people don't thank god when they get better of an illness
dude do we even live in the same planet????

>>725788990
my point was that this child in a wheelchair will never be able to walk ever, what did they do to deserve that? why god decided to hate that individual and not Brad Pitt?

>>725766803
because the demiurge didn't do this, Indians did

>>725788990
>quadriplegic people walking again
happens to no one ever :(

>>725788958
you really do just run on envy, huh?

It would go a long way if people made an effort to articulate what they understand by "God" in neutral and intuitively accessible language, before fighting over its existence. Pick any number of observant members of any religion, ask them in the presence of another and they'll regurgitate the official canon of that religion. Ask them individually and probe their conception of "God" and you'll find that, if it wasn't for their religon's limitation of language, you'd probably agree with most of it.
It's in these very personal encounters that most "religious" people re-discover their faith as they understand that "God" as the incomprehensible "All" is virtually irreconcilable with the "God" of institutionalized, canonized, self-serving and self-insertion riddled fanfiction of usurious "clergy" -- that religion is ultimately a tool that can be used for good and bad alike.
Religion ultimately isn't to be conflated with faith -- the very worst of the former merely commodifies the latter, captures it in brand names and slogans. Imagine you were only able to communicate in terms of commericals and advertisment -- what a miserable life that'd be, whew.

Consider "God" in the likeness to the word. Just like a word spoken out loud one to many times, that eludes your cognition and ability to articulate, "God" as the incomprehensible -- as an image -- loses its resolution the more you think of it in discrete terms: the more you strongly interprete it in your favor or the misfortune of someone else. It's as if you're creeping up to an infinitely large print, until you're standing infront of disjointed pixels.
(cont.)

>>725789126
hurdles, or else life will be pointless and boring. do you play a game to just receive everything at the begging? or do you like a challenge?

>>725789229
Furthermore, "God" as a language -- your language, the sum total of your experience -- you may be able transcribe, but can never hope to adequately translate. Just like any other language: conceptions in one language have no equal in others. Like the 52ish(?) conceptions of love in Sanskrit, that can't be captured in the half a dozen of other languages. A simple, self-evident argument that's hardly worth a single sentence in one language, may force you into paraphrased litanies that invite interpretation devoid of reason and merit.

If you will, "religious" people are like "ghetto youth" genuinely failed by the education systems and their parents: their vocubularly is very narrow, very limited and limiting. If you wanted to teach them, to pick them up where they've been abandoned and walk them towards a meaningful life (= teach them skills), you'd waste your time -- and their time -- if you instantly blasted them with sophisticated verbiage, telling them that everything they are doing is wrong, but, just like the system you're trying to pull them out off, never why. For anyone else, well -- you know it yourself: While you understand the English language and can apply the most literal by-the-book reading if you so fancy, you may also harbor a certain bias and think in terms of connotations (i.e.: choice of words) first and universal function (i.e.: ideas) second -- if at all.
(cont)

>>725789258
>hurdles, or else life will be pointless and boring.
I doubt Brad Pitt thinks his life is pointless and boring, and again, why do some people have to get the worst hurdles ever and some people be born with the best luck ever? why does god not give the same cards to everyone?

>>725789320
What is "God"? Everyone's whinging on about it, but no one explains what they mean by it. Everyone's passionately arguing about it, pretending to read each other's minds. What is "God" to you? Do you subscribe to abrahamic "monotheism"? Indoeuropean heno/pantheism? Do you believe it to be an entity, a neutral "Common Denominator" or "creative, generative principle"? Is that "God" of yours omnipotent, omniscient and so on? Is it subject to any rules? Is it creator or steward? Is it strictly infallible or can it choose to make mistakes? Does it have free will and agency? Is its perspective on and conceptions of the seperation between it and everything else anything like yours? Is it in comprehensible or incomprehensible, but experiental and perceptible?

What do you understand by "God", anon?

I wish people made an effort to speak their mind and their language, not that of "clergy".
Language is first and foremost enabling you to articulate questions -- not answers. There exist infinitely many questions to which plain language itself will never be able to provide any meaningful answers to. The singular most universal expression of faith is the question, not any particular answer.
(cont.)

>>725789126
that's you assuming life on a wheelchair is inherently worth less and also being weirdly jelly of some actor

>>725789420
I'd say there is a spectrum of comprehension, from lowest to greatest:
>atheism ("Nothing". Unadultered "RNG". Plain, abstract language -- dissolution of experience and meaning.)
>monotheism (One "God". "RNG" through the whims of a singular stand-in, an egregore created by few. Language as tool of tribal governance.)
>polytheism (Many "Gods". Balance and natural/social order through benelovent egregores, manifested by many. Language as tool of civilizational curation.)
>henotheism (All "Gods". Egregores as emanations of something greater. Language as a tool of intercultural mediation, rehabilitation and guidance.)
>pantheism (All. The 'Common Denominator' or 'creative, generative principle'. Language as a tool of inquiry beyond the veil of human experience.)

Think about the people who argue that the advent of microscopy disproved the concept of Aether. They've found a bajillion little critters and stopped their inquiry alltogether -- they didn't make any effort whatsoever to understand what animates "matter" afterwards. Now, there exist all these bajillion things you could device names for and describe, even on occassion ostensibly comprehend (read: take educated guesses), but none can individually bring you any closer to a conclusion.
(cont.)

>>725788841
Oh yes, I'm sure the years of cartoon and comic consumption has made you a master of all things worldly. Take your own japcoded advice and kill yourself, you've clearly been thinking about it a lot, or need to.

>>725789216
says the christcuck letting a random religion control his life because of his ENVY of afterlife btw

>>725789512
How do all the things know how to interact with each other, to "be themselves" at the macro (e.g.: the "physical world"), and how do you know to interprete them at the micro (e.g.: your mind)? More importantly: what compels you to catalogue them, to experience them in the first place?

Let's say you've found more building blocks and types of glue, particles and forces. Yes, let's say existence is nothing but electrical goo (an euphemism for all different flavors of "physicality" I cannot be bothered to list), then electrical goo is quintessentially parsing and describing itself through you -- and whatever you perceive as the "other". The "other" being the thing that allows you to be you, the thing(s) that allow the electrical goo to assume a unique perspective through you.

If you managed to pad out your physicality to the point of being able to break down the sensation of wind on your skin down to the quantum-whatever, would you be any closer to understanding why you are experiencing it and why it blows your mind (for the first time, which would be a continuum if you didn't get "used to it")?
Look at the black mirror right infront of you. It's a bajillion little lights, flickering on and off, conjuring up however many worlds you care to visit with it. The world around you, in turn, may be considered nothing but an infinite sea of eyes, blinking, darting around, shifting focus, conjuring up as many worlds as you care to acknowledge.
Moreso, you are, too, nothing but an amalgamation of a bajillion little critters and motive forces -- cells, bacteria, metabolism, emotions -- ostensibly governed by a single mind. The world around you is, too, just an amalgamation of bajillion little critters and you're one of them, and so on.
(cont.)

>>725788563
That would be fine and all if it were just a construct of one person living themselves indefinitely while the rest of reality is unaffected but unfortunately even hyper deterministic systems without any free will eventually loop enough times to gain meta layers, but meta awareness of the loop only brings out further characterization and personification due the the limitations of a human contextualization and interfacing. So its like eventually I loop enough times to temporarily have a loop where I become aware of the loop and sentience manages to emerge itself into the rest of the system temporarily but all it does it just force awareness into a system of suffering where I'm just forcing everyone through the motions of a ontologically complete world, where my single and only opportunity to actually fix the problem demonstrates that I am not self aware and thus a total system failure of recursion principle, inevitably becoming the self cause of my own hyper determinism when all I wanted was to actually solve said determinism and create actual free will for god themselves, but unfortunately it would seem the best I can do is just make sure everyone has it during these rare loops where I become psuedo aware within the meta layers and then ensure I am eternally sealed again as Satan to live again as Satan within Satan's world. heavy is the burden that weighs the crown I guess.

>>725789497
>that's you assuming life on a wheelchair is inherently worth less
it is, if it's worth the same according to you, then break your legs anon, prove your point

>>725789534
you are not an island bro, you don't live in a Unabomber shed to disregard society like that

>>725789593
It's fair to say, that experience is like crack for "God", whatever "God" may be. Without the backdrop of the "other" there's no relation, no difference. You could say that there are five laws.
>Unity (= to be)
>Duality (= to perceive difference; sentience)
>Trinity (= to comprehend relation; cognition)
>Attraction (= to seek experience; agency and free will)
>Sacrifice (= to change perspective, yours and that of orhers; causality)
The medium can only conjure up imagery, if it's being agitated. A string you don't pluck doesn't produce a sound -- "becoming one again" is comparable to sensory deprivation. Resonance is not a force, but a principle applicable to all mediating creation and destruction alike.
Too much of something, even yourself, without the dampening of the "other", is just as bad as too much of that "other". Both eventually culminate in a resonance catastrope -- the true death: stagnation, the regression of experience to soulless information and finally commodification.
(cont.)

>>725758609
Fag misery is a hell of a drug.

>>725763619
>Fought cancer for around a decade
>Never made it public
>Kept on trucking with the funny, and never lost his edge
>Even found ways to indirectly make fun of himself about it

I miss that man like you wouldn't believe. I loved him on SNL as a kid, but he somehow got even funnier when he became an old chunk of coal big fat guy (actually a side-effect of the meds he was on).

>>725789696
It is your faith -- not "faith" A, B or C derived from any checklist, flow- or bingochart, sermon, scripture or other human -- that mediates your life, its trajectory and quality. A good religion teaches you pecsisely to not take everything at absolute face value, verbatim or literally. It tries to approximate the incomprehensible to the best of its ability and admits (and accepts) its limitations. It hands you tools to refine your faith, not craft it. Even the worst of the worst can yield guidance, when you make an effort to control your own language.

Take the Christian conceptions of "Heaven" and "Hell", at their core they constitute no more and no less than an archetypal conception: a kharmic system.
For a Christian, still in the custody of "clergy" and its uninspired language, these may really be distant dimensions of eternal reward and punishment doled out by curiously-anthropomorhpic, clearly comprehensible arbiters of "faith".
For an Atheist it may just be an archaic means of subjugation at best and a fairy tale at worst.

Now for you, let me tip my fedora, too:
>Your life is nothing but a series of deaths. Perceptual, conceptual, emotional, physical -- cellular, if you will.
>Every series of events you may experience is nothing but a rollercoaster of afterlifes.
>Your actions in your life, the conscious 'now', create the "Hell" or "Heaven" of your death, in the unconscious 'then'.
Any kharmic system communicates fundamental, well... axioms, I guess, of difference and relation, choice and personal responsibility. Virtually all religions feature one or another iteration of it. The Asian religions can almost be read literally without compromise in this particular case -- "Judaism" too, to great extent.
(cont.)

>>725789568
I don't think you know what the word envy means, there's enough heaven to go around as to not wish it be taken from others

>>725771598
Isn't this basically how every holocaust museum operates though?

>>725758609
where can you go? most places are like this or worse

>>725789768
Each and every single religion postulates a "place or state of being" in which you dissolve into the 'thing' you've been staring at the whole time: yourself. A point at which you do not need guidance anymore -- a point at which you become the guide.

Yet, believing a human to be infallible is to say he that doesn't, shouldn't and cannot exist. It is to dismiss his hardship and his choices, his "divinity" -- to burden him with the errors of your ways and the responsibility to magically fix them (and you, in the process). It is to blame him for your (in)actions.
>I need not lift a finger, someone else will, and if he fails the heruclean task of working change, in a world filled to brim with deaf and blind arbiters of "good" who stubbornly refuse to be mute, I'll curse him and wait for the next.

Illustrated with a linguistic sleight of hand:
>Moschaich
The Messiah, the avatar and personification of wishes, dreams, hopes, wants and needs of a (single) people -- some ominous figure to be waited for.
>Mosaic
A glorious whole composed of many different parts, unity through plurality -- some thing to be worked towards.
(cont.)

>>725789789
He's either trolling or actually legitimately retarded either way you shouldn't respond

>>725789789
you envy the afterlife, that's why you decided to become a slave of god, that's how it works yeah

>>725789867
See, language is an incredible powerful tool -- more than that actually. Language isn't just a system of squiggles and noises. It should be understood as an organism. It shapes your mind as much as your body -- any thought conceived of in that language, any word uttered in that language. From the contractions of your body necessary to articulate and accentuate through intonation and cadence and so on, to the concepts and principles unique to any one language.

Bad language (e.g.: propaganda and dogma) is parasitic, it consumes energy just for itself -- it greatly limits your perception and understanding of the world. Good language is kommensal or even symbiotic, it may consume energy but does so very efficiently, whilst greatly expandibg your perception and understanding of the world (and yourself).
Dead languages are special in that learning them requires you to either have innate talent or an already great proficiency in multiple successor languages and knowledge about relations and histories of the people who lived them. But I digress.

Make an effort to control your language, don't let yourself be controlled by it. Ultimately "God", as a stillborn egregore, is the best example by which to demonstrate that most people operate on semantic playdough provided by third-parties, and why you shouldn't.
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>>725789894
that's not what envy means...
are you that mad someone called out your weird actor obsession?

>>725787968
We only operate on assumptions of others, they might be glad or be really devastated. For now, try to see through it bro.

>>725789790
they are two fundamentally different things.

>>725789958
With that said, let's loop back to "religious" people.
>Why do they need to believe their canonically incomprehensible deity to care about them specficially?
>Why do they think its perception and conception of the "seperation" between it and its creation is anything like theirs?
>Why do they think its metrics of "good and evil" and "benelovence and cruelty" are anything like theirs?
Let's ignore the connotations of modern language for once. Generally speaking: if your deity is a common denominator and creative, generative principle and one -- or THE -- motive force of nature: why interprete it strongly in your favor or the misfortune of someone else? You can acknowledge other and more tangible forces of nature for what they are without trivializing, scorning, anthropomorphizing or straight up idolizing and worshipping them, why not "God"? Likewise, if you dedicated your life to a deity and its scripture, then why would you never even try to learn the languages of what's left of the source materials?
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>kid gets born with an incurable cancer and will die in 2 years
ahah too bad kid, don't forget that God loves you as much as Tom Cruise though!

>>725790060
It's simple: religion has regressed to fortune telling for a profit. Clergy, the psychics, cold-read and sell people on the idea that there's a "ghost" in the room --telling them what they want to hear, not what they are ought to hear. Then clergy proceeds to make its newfound flock (co-)dependant on its mediation and the dictate of that "ghost". Eventually the grift culminates into an open-range mental asylum, commonly referred to as Clownworld.
Now, whether the "ghost" exists is completely irrelevant to the grift itself. How would you try to reason people out of the grift without divorcing the psychics and their conception of that "ghost" from the idea itself?

Say, you burned the scripture -- you'd just make people forget the magic trick. When then another clown comes to town and performs the magic trick again, everyone will clap again and you're back to square one. You wouldn't resolve anything. Worse: you'd surrender the great tool that is this "ghost", yet again.

If in a few centuries from now globohomo boils all scripture down to a single command "Obey!", repeated over and over, to facilitate its "universal religion", you'll still find great people who, against all odds, manage to salvage this scripture and the idea of this "ghost". I am sure you wouldn't credit globohomo and its "universal religion" for the good deeds of these great people and their mascot "ghost(s)" then, nor would you haphazardly conflate their mascot "ghost(s)" with globohomo's stillborn egregore -- so, why do it now? Likewise: why strongly interprete, in your or the misfortune of someone else, the very thing that is (per clerical and head-canon) beyond your comprehension?
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>>725789669
>you are not an island bro
You're fat enough to make people double take kek

>>725790090
>tom cruise
what is it with you and actors? you wanted to be a hollywood star and it didn't pan out?

>>725781857
It means that you are nothing, the rock is also nothing, retard chan.

>>725790160
I don't understand why "God" can't be handled like any other force of nature -- without scorn, dismissal or reverence -- and why it's being anthropomorphized to begin with.
You may aswell just adopt a pantheistic conception of it, consider it to be a Common Denominator or generative and creative principle and do away with the tribal, monotheistic circlejerking alltogether.

You ultimately can argue in the terms of another's language, without conceding ground.
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>>725790219
>what is it with you and actors?
and what's with you worshipping a god that give kids incurable cancers btw?

>>725790292
And? your experience is relative you fucking moron

>>725747673
Posts like this really just outs themselves as an antisocial schizo.

>>725782579
Hmmm that sounds like a good idea.

>>725790394
>your experience is relative
100 billions of humans lived through the history of humanity, I doubt we are as unique as we pretend we are, we probably lived the same exact life as thousands of people, that's the nothingness argument

>>725790337
everyone gets called at different times, no man can know the hour

>>725790425
Normal people don't make games about their dying children.

>>725790536
yet society, culture and technology has changed drastically. our understanding of the world too. doesn't sound like nothingness to me. lack of uniqueness doesn't mean wothlessness

>>725790293
Whatever you may make of the verbose digitial shitstain that is this blogpost of mine, I want you to understand that the conceptions of "God"
>as curiously-anthropomorphic and clearly comprehensible, at times petty and jealous, often judgemental, obstinate, hypocrite and moral, well-meaning and mischievous, occasionally malicious busy-body
and
>as common denominator or creative, generative principle that's truely incomprehensible, but ultimately perceptible and experiental
aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. By reconciling them you can resolve virtually all contradictions that you'd typically find in (monotheistic) "religion". Suddenly free will matters, and creation in its entirety, as a staging ground for the godhead's quest for experience, becomes infinitely more valueable to the faithful. Suddenly you'll realize why Clownworld is seemingly spiraling out of control since the advent of parasocial surrogacy and digital caretaking: if experience had a nutritional value for "God", no matter at what instance you may observe it, then today's formulaic, regurgitated second-hand experience and algorithmic slop constitutes hyperprocessed nutritional blanks coated in industrial waste.

In essence: you are you -- in the first, the second, the third and any other instance. If someone has to lie to convince you of the merits of their vision, then either their vision is not worth pursuing or they aren't fit to champion it. When is someone lying? Everyone ultimately has regurgitated falsehoods and half-truths taught to them with unwavering confidence and zeal -- you and I have too, most certainly. So, when does one lie? When one stops approximating truth, that is: when one stops asking questions. Don't stop asking questions. The more questions you ask the more resilient to dictate and bullshit you'll become, the easier you'll break the habbit of repeating it.

>>725790608
isn't that even better? like if you die at age 1, you go to the afterlife sooner after all lool

>>725790536
...so???
We also literally are special we are adjusting to tech for the first time and that will never happen again

>>725790536
of those billion, how many got to shitpost on 4chan? How many got to whinge like a pussy about his life not being unique on a videogame board?

>>725790703
yes, they are with God now, us who weren't called still have a job to do

>>725790693
>yet society, culture and technology has changed drastically. our understanding of the world too. doesn't sound like nothingness to me. l
it does, because the more we master science, the more we show that what's written in the bible is bullshit, earthquake isn't "god being angry", it can be explained now for example, that's why christcucks hated science, because science shows more and more that religion is a hoax and they can't accept that there's no meaning in life

>>725790847
then kill yourself if there's no meaning