Thread 725752089

This is Kris from Deltarune, and THEIR pronouns are THEY/THEM!

>>725752089 (OP)
>Dilatroon

It's 2hursday

>>725752089 (OP)
Kris is non-binary but they'd sure as hell be a great alpha male bf to Noelle.

>>725752089 (OP)
>345th deltatranny thread

>>725752089 (OP)
Obviously a he, look at his left leg, he's clearly hiding something in there

>>725752089 (OP)
>will fight you with all their strength to keep you from seeing a code on a missing girl's guitar
>"S-Soul-sama!? You're telling me to put a heckin' ring on her!? AIEEEE FORGIVE ME NOELLE-CHAN I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF, GASTER-DONO TAISUKETEEEEEE"
Why are they like this

>>725752089 (OP)
>a singular entity
>use the plural form
English retarded, mein neger

>>725752483
>the guitar thing
shit I donno, wait for more parts
>the funny thorn ring
because some part of Kris was already just as much of an asshole as your actions are actively turning HIM into and HE doesn't want you to flip that switch, probably (they/them went from "Please don't" to "PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED" on they own)

>>725752089 (OP)
Toby and the fans will always see Kris as an evil straight white male

>>725752089 (OP)
well THEY use THEIR big human COCK to breed THEIR female monster friends

>>725752089 (OP)
And xhe rapes biological women

I control every aspect of Kris's life, including his gender and pronouns.

>>725752842
I don't know, my he/himro doesn't seem like the person to have excessive deep-seated desires of mindbreaking Noelle.

>>725752089 (OP)
*she/her

>>725752089 (OP)
>made this thread right as the other deltarune thread hit bump limit
i see your plan

>>725752089 (OP)
And THEY have a BIG HUMAN COCK

Imagine being able to find Frisk in dark world and then joining with him after Kris dumps us during one of his tantrums

>>725752089 (OP)
Kris - Male
Frisk - Female
Chara - Female

(Let's see if the thread survives)
>>725755224
>simply told him
We can see he notices, if you die to him frisk has a dialogue telling him that he killed him and that he should stop fighting
The more you die and call him for it, the more miserable Asgore gets, but he doesn't stop the fight regardless, for me it paints him in a very cool and devoted light

>>725753603
Based player chad

>>725752089 (OP)
God, I want to deadname Kris so much.

What does Kris do with that knife? They/them!

>>725757397
idgi

>>725752089 (OP)
Reminder that Flowey WILL be the Chapter 5 secret boss and he WILL kill Asgore again

>>725757569
they SLASH them

>>725757725
Could be kino but he's the main boss.

>>725752089 (OP)
Add another citation to the wiki I'm sure this will be the one to do it

>>725752089 (OP)
Hey Kris! Why you so yellow for?!

>>725753723
He has a deep seated desire to torture Noelle and a deep seated desire to fuck her. Weird route does both.

>>725758305
>raped

>>725753723
He's a soulless freak desperately trying to not hurt things he knows he cared about when he had one

just found out Seam also uses they them pronouns

>>725755224
I'm still working on that game btw, its not following the stream lore. I was already ignoring the books too, so it wasn't much of a change.

I was losing my shit for a bit though, at least until Toby said the stream was only a possibility and we could IMAGINE whatever we wanted

Why did Chara make Dess groom and molest Kris?

>>725758724
Kris thinks its a rape. He doesn't know Noelle actually means that and has been fantasizing about Kris "taking what he wants" for years.

>>725759252
To turn him into another Chara. It was like Carl in AHTF turning that alternate universe successful version of himself into a balding sex pest so he could live vicariously through him.

>>725759442
But what about all the times she sucked on they’s theynis and fingered they’s butthole

>>725759737
That's how it happened to Chara.

Man I hope the Soul doesn't get attributed to some random asshole
It really has been refreshing to not see every negative player action followed by "why did Chara do this?"

>>725761226
Toby has made great efforts to depict the soul as (you), it would be insane of him to backpedal

>>725761575
Yeah and that's almost how Undertale was until literally the last ten seconds when it hits you with le evil smiley face

>>725752089 (OP)
https://youtu.be/ozPkgbuDjT4?si=vF3qEuL7WnGiYBuh&t=2395
Rewatching this scene got me thinking, what creepypasta tropes has Toby not used yet?

>>725752483
probably because whatever fucked up reason is, keeping you from seeing the code seems to be infinitely more critical than letting you rape the doe

>>725758724
>struggles and resists and gives off a "I don't want this" vibe until the 'ring' (thorn) gets jabbed into her finger
>the ring that has mind control powers
>after the mind control artifact gets forcibly equipped on her, she thanks him
Yes, raped.

>>725752483
Dess’ sanctity and purity is Kris’ top priority, the doe is secondary to Kris’ mentor and rapist

>>725752089 (OP)
The PeDoe that BROKE /v/

>>725762898
dess is for asriel only

>>725762898
why did she do it?

>>725763036
asrielle you mean?

What are the pronouns for Kris' juicy boy dick?

>>725761948
The scare jump was by far the worst choice toby ever made in undertale
He should just had gone 1:1 with off and leave it to (you)r choice, then chara wouldn't be a meme

>>725762794

>>725763076
Because deranged females are based

>>725762163
We haven't gotten a garage sale yet, so that might be fun.

>>725752483
You, the player, were Noelle all along

>>725763181
caged/locked

>>725763416
Wouldn't that mean we used Kris like a onahole during the rape?

>>725761796
Who's hands are those?

>>725755571
>susie gets to tap that

>>725763163
>she's a lesbian but finds asriel cute
>has the perfect solution

>>725763416
so i was... the friend inside her? that's kinda hot

>>725762418
Anon, its just a thorn in the light world. That was all psychosomatic. And the game makes us painfully aware that Noelle has a rape fetish, is a masochist, has repressed romantic feelings for Kris, and got said masochism from years of Kris playfully indulging his sadism with her as the victim.

Fem Kris is for ME
Male Kris is for all the monsters

>>725752089 (OP)
I/Me need they/themdst've to fuck/bang purple/violent barney/dinosaur pussy/vagina.

>>725763076
Asgore STOPPED her and Toriel left him for it ???
Kinda fucked up

Kris, the most raped human in monster town

>>725763747
She's so fucking lucky, how can a homosexual man like me compete?!

>>725752483
Carol threatened to cut of his chocolate supply if he told anyone about YOU. Noelle virginity comes second to da plan

>>725763856
Imagine she makes the attempt but asriel mindbreaks her with the power of boss monster cock

>>725763747
Hot

>>725765102
never asked for it
never wanted it

>>725766116
She would NEVER approve

>>725766116
i want ralsei to jerk me off

>>725766116
>>725766618
She would NOT say that.

>>725762163
That scene at the timestamp you linked is so fucking good. Gave me chills the first time it happened to me. I hope there's more like that where it's like the weird route is breaking the game at its seams

gb2r .

>>725766669
I want Ralsei's dick in me

That's a GUY and HE sticks HIS PENIS in doe pussy.

>>725762163
Hyper realistic blood. And he would somehow make it effective and not corny as shit.

>>725766669
his full name is Ralsei Softpaws

>>725759252
Dess is human and also Chara.

Its not gay to fuck ralsei

>>725752483
>Forces Kris to rape their friend he was explicitly trying to not involve in his bullshit
>Players get upset when Kris isn't happy and beats the shit out of them.
lmao

>>725767142
>Snowgrave route
>It comes from the Soul when we get impaled together with Noelle
>It's also a fusion scene

>>725763190
Anon, that's Frisk. I thought only Asriel was colorblind.

>>725767595
Maybe if you're playing femKris.

>>725767647
I'm just confused where the energy Kris had in the normal route when they're fighting like hell to let you see the funny code went in Snowgrave.

>>725767595
That's right. It's not gay if he's cute. And Ralsei is the cutest.

>>725767595
ralsei will turn into a girl no nah

>>725767595
ralsei is for purple dinos

>>725767818
Kris is in a state sort of like Flowey was before the start of Undertale, soulless but still remembers what it's like to have one and helping people he used to like as a result
He's dead set on the mission right now, and keeping you out of the bunker is part of that
Noelle however, is not, and there are parts of him that wants to experience what you're doing with her, to the point that he can't muster everything to stop it like he can when fighting you for the code

>>725767721
>All humans look the same!
I was going to reply with just a pic, but the pic part never happened

>>725768156
>He
THEY. THEM.

>>725759252
That was gaster. Chara’s the one who made me make kris rape noelle to fulfill her childhood friends to lovers kink

Ralsei (White) is made for being held face down in a bucket of black hair dye until he agrees to change back

>>725768276
I don't have that one image of Asriel not being able to tell Chara from Frisk so I will just post a random one.

>>725752089 (OP)
Noelle is so humble for a rich girl, I want her to act more like the snobby rich kids from Bully

>>725753134
Only susellefags think that and they constantly get assraped for “misgendering” the jaundice muppet. This fanbase is so gay that it loops around to hating the preachy dykes

>>725760430
Human sets.

>>725768490
Don't include me as part of that faggot

>>725752089 (OP)
I don't care

>>725767445
literally the best dry handie you could get

What are your thoughts on dragon Susie happening in the climax of a chapter or the last chapter? Either with or against (you)/Kris?

>>725768864
If you didn't care, you wouldn't have left a comment. BITCH.

>>725752483
>>725767818
People are under the impression that Kris lets You do things and could just stop You whenever they want, when the exact opposite is true.
As long as the SOUL is in Kris's chest, You are in control and Kris acts at your pleasure. Kris can only resist when you're distracted or with great effort, when You directly command them to do something they HAVE to do it, even if they bite their tongue or something they still have to move their mouth when you tell them to speak.
We can relax our control enough to let them play the piano, and at the same time we can assert ourself to the point that Your voice is coming out Kris's mouth. Kris is your vessel, You are always in control.

>>725767595
i would only kiss ralsei if he put on the hat first

>>725768676
Tar dipping is a time honored tradition

>>725761297
I have autism that compels me to complete picture sets.

>>725768810
> “misgendering” the jaundice muppet.
He's male though

>>725768921
im banking on this. it feels as sure as noelle growing angel wings at the end of the weird route. the girl will take flight.

>>725767647
It's always funny to me seeing people switch from "they" to "he" mid-sentence when referring to the same person. I imagine the gayness slowly dissipating from their beings as they type.

>>725752089 (OP)
well THEY are going to be fucking their friends every opportunity i get. save 1 is for susie. save 2 is for noelle. save 3 is for ralsei. end of story

Berdly is going to break Kris with his BBC (Big Bird Cock)

>>725770324
He would never say this

kris looks cool in the pinstripe suit
i wish it would come back

>>725763856
Are these people completely unaware of how fucked up it is to look at a guy who isn't having a good time and immediately think "lol I should forcefem him until she likes it"?

>>725768068
Is there more of this?

>>725770970
Too masculine for Toby "my future TRUE name will be Izumi Foxxeru" Fox.

>>725770324
made it extra annoying for if you want to use it on people on other shitty websites

>>725771007
It's the norm in the LGBT community at this point. Their attitudes toward masculinity and femininity have grown to be pretty fucked up.

Holy shit you guys, I just found out Ralsei is not a anagram of Asriel but of Is Real
That's why he has no problem going from dark world to dark world. It's all crystal clear now.

>>725771115
toby also put susie in a suit and she looks cool too

>>725770970
Humans in suits looks pretty good.

>>725771249
>wojakslop

>>725771007
I imagine on some level they are, but rather than admit it and get off to the degeneracy of the whole affair, they instead use political ideology to justify it as a good thing.

>>725771031
No

>>725771031
read filename

>>725771629
Is his dick bent at a 180 degree angle?

i've fully accepted that kris is meant to be a they/themer at this point but just IMAGINE the shitshow if Toby actually did intend for kris' gender to be a mystery and then just later revealed kris to be a chick or something

>>725771817
the forbidden theory

>>725771817
The fandom would kill him.

>kris fuck noelle
>Susie is impressed
>Ralsei is jealous of noelle
Why are all "males" monsters like that???

>>725771981
Inb4 that's why he moved to Japan in the first place: to be safe from any attempts on his life made by a delusional Martha Danielle Chapman seething in autistic rage over the fem!Kris reveal.

>>725772183
One autist would probably still travel there to kill him.

>>725771817
it would depend on the current global political climate at the time

>>725771383
Pretty much

>>725771817
See this? Looks like a Rude Buster, right?
WRONK! It's an ACT symbol.
Ralsei was making a big deal out of ACTs being Kris because he was trying to associate Kris with this part of the prophecy.
"At last, was the girl" is Kris taking of her armor and revealing she has tits.
But Susie insisted on ACTing and now all hope is lost

>>725773440
Wrong image because I was distracted by Kris boobies.

>>725768706
I know which one
I couldnt find it either
Have this one instead

>>725773558
Damn, we both forgot THE pic... it's over.

>>725773440
the thing is, i don't think kris wants to be/ anyone to know that she is/ is supposed to be the girl
given susie's reaction to the end of the prophecy after hyping herself up, it's clearly not a good thing

>>725763747
Blue Kris is superior.

>>725769214
>>725768818
Good kind of autism

>>725773712
Its buried... Somewhere
Is only online where it seems lost for now

>>725752089 (OP)
That's obviously a boy
an unmistakable school shooter phenotype

>>725774112
Funnily enough that is precisely what we'll force him to do once we assert more control.
Either that or we find the original vessel and do it ourselves.

>>725752089 (OP)
I call Kris "him" on purpose to annoy faggots that care about pronouns too much and don't care about whether it's incorrect or not.

>>725774005
Someone will post it eventually and we will find it.

>>725771817
That's a theory several people on this board have. There's very good reasons to believe it's true.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN???

>>725768706
This one?

>>725776381
YES!
Exactly that one

>>725752089 (OP)
You don't own pronouns.

>>725776364
Kris and Ralsei are circumcised, Susie and Noelle are not

>>725776547
I could've sworn I had a part 2 where Asriel waves a chocolate bar to find out which is Chara, but I can't seem to find it. I'll keep looking

>>725776716
yes, there is another, but is not part of a set
Is Kris who does that

>>725752089 (OP)
Sure, why not

>>725776912
Ah, that's why I had no luck. Turned up quick when I knew what to look for, thanks

>>725771817
I genuinely believe there's a real chance that in the Weird Route Noelle will start addressing (You) directly, and ask You your name and if you're a boy or a girl.
Kris being they/them would then become significant as part of their identity that we would overwrite with our own, without the narrative ever having to explicitly address or clarify Kris's gender. Another one of Toby's tricks to give everyone a win and slip through controversy.

>>725768068
I will laugh my ass off if Toby pissing on suselle and krusie fags by making fucking RALSUSIE canon as his big sleeper ship

>>725776381
Thanks anon, it's that one. Same artist as this, huh?

>>725752089 (OP)
>Toby use meta narrative to refer to Kris as they/them to obfuscate their gender as well as ethinicity and voice so that the character is much more relatable to everyone playing the game

OR

>Toby uses they/them to represent 0,0001% of mentally ill blue hair teens who usually revert back to their assigned gender when they find a stable job

???

>>725752089 (OP)
>saying they/them for woke reasons
Small-brained
>saying they/them because the player is present too
Big-brained

>>725777625
>game makes it an explicit point that kris is their own person separate from you and not a blank slate
>”no no kris is TOTALLY meant to a stand in for ME”
Toby’s also made NPCs that are also “non-binary” so what? Are you suppose to be able to self insert as fucking seam?

>>725752483
I mean the Mantle game itself mocks Kris that he actually wanted the snowgrave

>>725777313
Don't fool yourself. He's a part of the Vivziepop Rebecca Sugar Dana Terrace clique

>>725777979
Neither is "non binary" none of them were born with assigned gender (male or female) and then decided to be a third gender thats neither male or female. They are genderless or unknown gender characters. Its a meta narrative. Like game narrator saying "the year is 20XX" it doesnt mean its 20XX on calendars, like when game always hides Masterchiefs face it doesnt mean he is a faceless blob, like when Gothic always finds a way to not reveal main hero name it doesnt mean he didn't have one. Its literally the same with characters refering to Kris that way to not reveal it to the player. It literally doesn't matter if Kris is suppose to be a self insert or not. Kris is written as self insert anime character and people meant to see him as male or female. Adding a twist that he is his own person doesn't change that fact.

>>725777313
Ralsei is brotherzoned since the tea party. He will probably die or reveal to be just some part of Kris that doesn't exist or some shit. There will be no Ralsusie or Kralsei at all. Only Krusie or Kriselle.

whats the game that spawned the webm of the people walking in on the dude having gay anal sex with the giant ogre
i want that to happen with ralsai and clover with a 1% chance when we enter his room during chapter 5

>>725774313
If Toby didn't want this ship to be canon why is he writing their relationship as being this adorable?

>>725752089 (OP)
>characters use they for frisk because the dev said the child's gender is whatever you, the player want it to be
>characters use they for kris
>NO HIS PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM
hmmm

>>725777963
I think it's both. Toby loves his double entendres, after all. Kris using they/them pronouns for gender identity reasons and the they/them pronouns alluding to us being in control of Kris sounds like something he'd think of.

>>725779031
Because you're delusional

>>725770093
Already happened

>>725779568
How am I delusional? Kris and Susie are very cute together but Noelle is obviously getting paired with Susie.

>>725778404
>key plot point of SU is that the crystal gems former leader got dicked down by a random human causing the series' "uber dyke" to be perpetually assmad
idk i like those odds also didn't it turn out that Rebecca drew fucking greg x pearl smut

>>725778837
Literally the opposite of this chart, only midwits think theres even a 1% chance Toby isn't going full dyke mode, if you don't like Suselle than you aren't enough of a faggot to be fandom goblining over this game and you should find something better.

Normal people: I love this (singular) apple. It (singular) is (singular) delicious. I love these (plural) pineapple(s) (plural). They (plural) are (plural) delicious.

Retards: Hur, I love this (singular) gender neutral apple person. They (singular) HUR ARE (plural wait wtf) HUR delicious. I love being fucking inconsistent and destroying the English language.

Can Kris forgive himself for what he did to Noelle?

>>725782872
>plural they exists for longer than any of your family has been alive
>this is fine
>someone calls attention to it
>HOW DARE YOU ENGLISH IS SANCROSANCT YOU CANT USE IT LIKE THAT!!!!

lol, lmao
language is defined by its usage, not by whatever faggot rules you think you can apply to it
and english is already a fucking graveyard of good sense

We need to make the English language even more gendered, unlike retarded bullshit like non-binary, English WAS gendered in the past.

We need to reintroduce even more gendered pronouns. We need to bring back gendered nouns. There won't be a plural they anymore. It will be theyo (masculine plural) and theya (feminine plural). In addition, we should introduce the pronouns that denote hierarchy, like ye and thou.

>>725783204
The problem is singular they has always been used as either a generic, an unknown, or in rare cases an extreme formality.
Not something your own mother calls you.

>>725762898
DESS NO-

>>725783063
>Ignoring the dussy for years
He doesnt deserve her

>>725774371
If by shooting you mean loads then yes, we'll do his whole class.

>>725783204
No one uses singular they in real life because it fundamentally doesn't fucking work in real life. You are confusing an old usage of they as a way to describe an unknown subject whether it is plural or singular as proof they is a singular gender neutral pronoun. It wasn't, people just used it because the actual singular gender neutral pronouns were too cumbersome for real life speech (he or she), or fell out of favor (he and it). Its a terminal online phenomena. Singular they only works online when you are a faggot troon on discord introducing yourself as "they", or putting that stupid shit on your bio.

Bu it doesn't work in real actual conversation. Using it in real life conversation is cringe, and quickly gets extremely confusing, because in real life English, there are many situations where you need to use both plural and singular, meaning if you try to use singular they in real life, speech quickly gets confusing and awkward. It sounds wrong. Even woke translations try to minimize how often singular they is used because it can produce awkward phrasing and sentences. I also love how in these faggot translations, if singular they were a real singular pronoun, you think you would hear sentence (THEY IS A GOOD PERSON), but these fags will never do it because it sounds stupid. So its always (THEY ARE A GOOD PERSON). Singular they is so confusing, you need to add context to it, which defeats the purpose of a pronoun in the first place. Even in universities, with these same woke retards, you never hear them use singular they in real life for the exact same issues I pointed out. So if you definition of language is usage, then singular they is even more dead. It is a word completely driven by an agenda.

I would like to congratulate Dessfags for overthrowing Charafags for being the biggest UT/DR degenerates on this site

>>725783929
Dess is the new age Chara, that's why she wins.

>>725782242
>spoiler
idk if it was smut, but it was definitely romantic

>>725782242
I just know that Hazbin Adventure Time Steven Universe Owl House etc all follow the same mold as far as lesbian couples

>>725784357
Toby does love subverting tropes. So he might do Krusie or Kriselle just because everyone else would've made Suselle be the winning ship.

>>725784491
Subverting this trope would be career ending and have him labelled a homophobe

>>725784491
kriselle would be the big twist one, i think the average deltarune player can see krusie as the 'real' romance of the game despite the mandatory suselle
both kriselle and krusie have a lot going for them in their own ways, but it really depends on how toby's going to end things
a happy ending would be more fitting for krusie, but a bittersweet - downer ending is prime kriselle

>>725783063
No
Not that anyone cares but him, he's the reason the situation is as it is

>>725782242
bro in the movie she was literally dressed like the Jlullaby comic where greg fucks her head hole

>>725784862
with schizophrenic phrases like 'non-binary yuri' being used in the more questionable parts of the fanbase, i think a lot of them are prepping for suselle not being toby's big yuri romance

>>725752089 (OP)
She's a beautiful girl who being pushed by the woke mayor to transition.

>>725784862
>career ending
Considering his current health, I highly doubt he's going to have any career after Deltarune's completion regardless.

>>725784862
He does most of his work in Japan, where nobody gives a shit about homophobia, and he's already filthy rich from Undertale and Deltarune money. He doesn't need a career anymore.

>>725785025
"non-binary yuri" existed in this fandom since the Undertale days. Well, in the shitty woke part of it.

>>725785025
Toby is also someone who's concerned a lot about optics. He'll make some characters specifically with the eventual merchandise in mind.

>>725785721
He explicitly said he is never making lightner merch because it wouldn't feel right.

someone give me susie lewds to goon to. it's urgent

>>725785867
Nah

>>725782242
those were a fun several days on /co/ck

>>725785978
artist?

>>725752089 (OP)
Did they really need 200 million citations on the wiki?

>>725782872
>>725783283
Good morning señor

>>725753783
yep, that's him

>>725785503
Kris has dreams about being Noelle's puppy and never tells anyone

>>725779031
Chapter 5 will confirm if there are waifu routes or not. If theres different scenarios for ferris wheel on normal route then no doubt there will be changes happening in the epilogue or after credits if everyone survives

>>725786289
what's this supposed to prove
even in your screenshot it looks dumb

>>725783879
To see what a giant fuckup the singular they creates, try watching or reading then official translation of Land of the Lustrous. Every character uses "they", which makes the dialogue incomprehensible. There's a reason people don't talk that way.

I headcanon Kris as female so it isn't gay when she fucks Ralsei until he turns retarded

>>725787303
This is supposed to be a they/them? That's clearly a chick.

>>725752089 (OP)
We know, Robert, that's how you wrote the character, to the chagrin and cope of your many fans who wish they weren't as Woke as they are.

>Toby
>I will make Kris ambigous, this way i can enjoy fan art of Kris as a big booba chick as well as Chad railing Noelle and Susie
>troon fandom actually made Kris a genderless blob and ostracize anyone who portray Kris as a girl or guy

>>725787357
The characters look female but talk using masculine pronouns (in Japanese). The localizers were activists who decided to ruin the translation with they/them bullshit.

>>725785867
kris would've scored this if their drunk ass mom didn't fuck everything up by getting drunk while her child is still outside at 1am during a time of crisis.

>>725787705
Kris hates themselves to much to do that.

>>725787357
The gems are canonically genderless, but the person who sculpted them made them look (and act) like girls. However, he also taught them to refer to their siblings as "big brother" sometimes, so it gets weird.

>>725787526
>n-no, see, Robert actually wanted his fans to make sexy fanart of a character who's clearly meant to be a teenager!
>i-it's those dumb tranny fans who want Kris to be genderless, not the creator who wrote the Ambiguous™ character in the first place!
So he's a pedophile as well as a "soft" autogynephile. Got it...

>>725783283
Every day i thank god for making spanish inpervious to any attempt to making it non binary.
For example if you tried to degenre the word pena (shame) you'll end up with pene (penis).
That and the fact that the genre has actual phonetic weight and it feels wrong to use the other gender on a sentence

>>725779031
either
>toby is actively setting suselle to fail and is throwing fuel to other shipfags
or
>toby is so terrible at writing romance that his intended platonic dynamics feel more romantic
pick your poison

>>725787926
Anon, activists don't care about that. They'll bastardize the language to push their agenda no matter how incomprehensible it becomes.

>>725787526
This side of the fandom needs to be honest with itself that Toby's a massive faggot. If his characters are referred to with queer pronouns, then it's most likely that they're queer. Any other explanation feels like mental gymnastics that ignores the simple fact of Toby's faggotry.

>>725752089 (OP)
It would be funny if in the Snowgrave route Noelle asks (You) if you're a boy or a girl and then proceeds to call Kris he or she when talking about you.

>>725752089 (OP)
She's a very nervous and confused enby who's struggling to change her fate as the prettiest princess, please be nice to her!

Kris being The Girl is a twist that everyone seethes about.

>>725788065
anons are VERY scared that they enjoy something queer made by a queer made for queers. Its interesting.

>>725752089 (OP)
Made for De/ss/

>>725788269
It's understandable, but I think the right course of action is not to downplay its queerness but to admit that it's queer, you disagree with it, but you're able to enjoy some parts in spite of that.

>>725788012
Suselle is a joke. Literally a joke you laugh at to start because of how cringeworthy it's written compared to every other instance romance is focused on, including the throuple falling apart as a stunning critique of "alternative" lifestyles, and then you roll on the floor lmaoing out loud at it later knowing Susie is the sweet healer girl who loves adventure but put up a mean front from abandonment issues while Noelle is a mean girl who has an edgy punk sister, picks the cruel option in games, and was happily going along with whatever (You) asked her to do before Kris begged her to stop.

>>725752483
He can take us out easily because we're letting him when we play nice.
On weird route we don't play nice.

>>725788191
only the self insert tards seethe about it, i think most people balk at it because of how toby handles these sorts of things i.e., he never touches them
although there has been a number of cases where a presumed male character actually turned out to be female, although i don't know if kris is the best comparison
two examples off the top of my head are samus (iirc referred to as a male in the manual), and naoto from persona 4
kris also being a girls name has some legs to it, the first female pc in pokemon is officially named kris
while i don't know if it would call it a guaranteed theory, it's not as impossible as some people try to say

>>725788117
Monsters view all humans as genderless. They genuinely cannot tell the difference between men and women. That's why they refer to them as "they".

>>725788798
i mean, they still took us out and almost killed us in the bathroom. we are alive soley because of the plan, probably.

>>725787169
It's pretty simple, you and your compadres >>725783879 >>725787303 can't follow a simple conversation because you're brown
Whining about needing to rely on basic context to parse a sentence is the most ESL shit imaginable

>>725788831
My biggest grievance with the theory is that it would require a double subversion, which is not something Toby does. Dess Knight for example is very likely to be true because it subverts the obvious red herring of Carol being the Knight. Susie being the girl hero is the obvious red herring, but FemKris being true would require Noelle hero to also be a red herring. That's too subversive for Toby, so I don't think it's true.

>>725788920
If we aren't in Kris he isn't lasting a day without a soul. He got no choice, plan or not.

>>725788191
>>725788831
Kris ain't the girl. He's the cage.

>>725789204
>obvious red herring of Carol being the Knight
Not a single person living on the planet Earth believes Carol is the Knight.
It's either Dess (99% chance) or Rudie (if he decides to subvert expectations).

>>725789207
i don't think they care, they seem pretty ok with dying with how they respond to queen

>>725788023
>They'll bastardize the language to push their agenda no matter how incomprehensible it becomes
Just like Robert and his player characters.

>>725788978
>>725786289
Are you the same retard who think Digimon have no gender and defend Toei's retarded subs.

He uses the same tactics you do, trying to gaslight people into thinking singular they is a thing. Of course, singular they is a terminally online phenomena. My posts resonate with actual fluent English speakers because all of them are aware that no one uses singular they in real life. Not even in corporations that enforce pronoun in bios have HR that really uses singular they as an actual singular gender neutral pronoun.

Yet, here you are, being an eglintard ragebaiting while accusing us of being ESL. However, only an ESL and an agenda driven faggot would defend "singular they"? Why? Because you are an agenda driven faggot pushing pseudoscience.

>>725788920
That was Kris's HP going down, not ours. No matter how much they want to hurt us they can't, not in any way that matters. This isn't Deltatraveler.
Still, they need us for the plan and they have to put us back in no matter what.

>>725788846
>Monsters view all humans as genderless
Oh boy, this stupid cope theory again

>>725788831
I'll come clean that I seethed at it for a while as a self insert GOD. Thankfully my [fell off the truck] copium helped me overcome my issues to see the truth: The SOUL is my real self insert, the Vessel is a male body, and once we reunite I will fuck Kris into the bed along with her friends.
>>725789204
That's how he's blindsiding you. Noelle can't be the second hero for one very simple reason.
>>725789295
Bro, you made the cage but she stole it back in Chapter 1, remember the save she didn't let you load? Remember how she keeps pulling you out to throw you into a cage at night?

>Chara is obviously named for the word character
>People always say it as char-ah instead of like Kara

>>725789204
>>725789403
noelle could also the the knight, and is honestly more likely of a candidate than rudy
queen says she's incredibly powerful, and while we know this is true through snowgrave, it's still strange that she thinks noelle is like that completely outside of the route
noelle has also been said to enter a 'trance' of some kind when exposed to cold air, like from a fridge
the images for the cage and girl are deliberately vague, with the only one being concrete being ralsei's, and that's really only because it's the most consistent of the lot and was named as ralsei's in some concept art

>>725788012
>>toby is so terrible at writing romance that his intended platonic dynamics feel more romantic
It's obviously this one. Toby writes based on the vibes he wants to put out and never puts any thought into the implications. It's why the whole Weird Route flower situation happened.

>>725789617
Many such cases

>>725789403
You only think that because you're here discussing it
Normies were lucky if they realized Dess exists before chapter 4

>>725789491
Please tell me more about the rigorous science behind English grammar, this ought to be good.

>>725789204
>>725789403
You forgot the third option: Noelle is the Knight.
>>725789703
Having said that myself the problem with Noelle being the knight is what the hell is Kris doing with her trying to keep her ignorant?

>>725789782
'who the fuck is dess' was a meme for a reason pre ch3+4

>>725789617
Because chara is pronounced Char-ah
Kara sounds very deviant art oc, not out of tone but still...

>>725752089 (OP)
XHEY WERE RAPED, DON'T TRIVIALIZE XER PAIN

>>725789782
Watched a few youtubers see the Knight to see who the normalfags thought it was and 90% of them immediately went
>oh shit that's the bat
>oh yeah that's definitely Dess

>>725789830
You explode at the sight of gender neutral he.

Dess raped Kris.

>>725788978
I can follow it just fine
it just looks retarded

>>725789985
In the sweltering summer of 1992?

>>725789985
statutory doesn't count

>>725789985
It should had been me!!!

>>725789841
she's already pretty easy to gaslight into thinking something that did happen was a dream
we don't really know what the knight does outside of opening fountains asides from the fight at the end of ch3, it could be something as simple as
>enter room
>stab ground
>leave
noelle knight also explains how neither she nor berdly saw anyone leave the server closet
although the hole in that theory is how did noelle become the knight in that instance if her trigger is cold, the classroom has the same issue
maybe it's a phone call? there isn't any solid proof that the caller is the knight, after all

>>725789616
I must be the only one who prefers female Vessel and male Kris as a heterosexual male.

>>725789914
Kara is clearly the better name, though.

>>725790196
You'll come around, my AGP friend. Cross hope onto her heart.

>>725790196
I like it too
Alongisde the idea that the soul is a fucking BRAT

>>725785978
do you have any non-futa?

>>725789946
He is masculine though?
So you don't know if a "he" is a "he" just because someone calls them "he"?
I thought if you needed context to interpret a pronoun that defeated the purpose of it, isn't that what you said before? >>725783879
Your scientific theory seems a little confused.

>>725789428
I think he does care. He's pokerface more often than not but clearly he gets emotionally distressed when you hit the right strings like after the Spamton NEO fight.

>>725789617
the only chara i know outside of undertale is chara soon

>>725790309
I don't have that tranny shit, I just see the Vessel as an OC, not (me)

>>725788978
>>725788978
>>725789782

wow anon. They really knows what they are talking about. I should inform my anon friends that they should realize that they proved their point, so they have no reason not to use they when referring to a singular person. They should also tell the world that they proved this fact, so they can understand that this word is acceptable Of course, for some reason, it doesn't apply to objects, or even multiple objects, in fact, those objects don't even deserve to be mentioned because they are irrelevant. So its only for people, so when you see them, you use they.

Anyway they posted a bunch of pics. I saw them, and they clearly show that they know what they is talking about. I will post the pics on my xitter so my followers can see them and they can also agree and give me likes and understand what they is talking about.

>>725790357
kris and susie are edgy teens, kris probably knew queen wouldn't actually kill him, which is why he was comfortable saying the edgy option
with spamton that was an actual life or death situation, and kris is rightfully rattled afterwards

>>725790356
>He is masculine though
Wrong! Traditionally, he can be both masculine and gender neutral. When you're not sure of the speaker, use he.
>what you said before
Not that anon, I'm a traditional chad who stands by the way he has always been used.

>>725790356
They is not masculine though?
So they don't know if a "they" is a "he" just because someone calls them "they"?
They thought if they needed context to interpret a pronoun that defeated the purpose of it, isn't that what they said before? >>725783879
Their scientific theory seems a little confused.

>>725790357
He was scared of never having his freedom and always being someone's bitch.

>>725752089 (OP)
kris is the girl
if you ever met a tomboy who got zogged into becoming "non-binary", then you know this by heart

>>725790472
But Kris isn't (You). Let me guess, you're a cringe anti self inserter. You'll grow up soon enough.

>>725790309
>>725790472
Also to be clear I enjoy sex with FemKris, too. I just like gray girls over blue girls.

>>725790707
girls claiming to be non binary is also fairly common after being sexually assaulted, in an attempt to protect themselves from further abuse
molester dess is still fully possible with femkris

>>725790745
Yeah, I am autistic and I can't self-insert in vidya unless it's an in-deepth character creator, which Deltarune isn't lmao.

>>725790930
You'll grow out of it.
t. diagnosed autist

>>725757725
>>725758198
>He
wrong

>>725790707
This. Also, what's more likely: a boy who acts like a boy deciding to be non-binary, or a girl who acts like a boy deciding to be non-binary? Pronouns and gender are closely intertwined. There's no reason for man's man to use they/them.

>>725789703
Kris knight still isn't out of the question
Or a part of Kris being the knight, like perhaps a part of Kris that they gave away to be the SOUL that is keeping Dess on life support.

Krusie yuri hits different.

>>725791068
>>725790745
shut up nigger

Deltatroon

>>725790649
So we're in agreement that it's perfectly reasonable for an English speaker to interpret the subject of a sentence based on context, and your objection to using "they" to refer to an individual is based only traditional norms.

>>725790532
>>725790680
Your ESL schizobabble is only demonstrating that you don't understand basic principles of English grammar like your grammatical person and subjective case. I will accept your concession.

>>725789616
>I'll come clean that I seethed at it for a while as a self insert GOD. Thankfully my [fell off the truck] copium helped me overcome my issues to see the truth: The SOUL is my real self insert, the Vessel is a male body, and once we reunite I will fuck Kris into the bed along with her friends.
Based, then you really can self-insert into Kris.

>>725790930
The vessel is pretty in depth for a character creator by old school jrpg standards.

>>725790152
Nah, the knight talked to the darkner leaders and handed out black shards. Noelle Knight would require a split personality / headmate shit, which instantly makes it a bad theory.

>>725791152
The Knight having Kris' soul is a possibility I guess
Could explain why it's so strong if it's a monster with a human soul

>>725791068
Eh, I don't want to. More girls for me to fuck with my anon cock instead of needing to be through another character.

>>725791219
niggers*

Kris is only they/them so you can imagine your payable character as a girl or a boy

>>725791364
>Chatacterxreaderfag
You get the crased badge.

>>725791272
Eh, not for me. It's too basic.

Why do people try so hard to deny the obvious truth right in front of them?

>>725791486
We're talking about old school jrpgs here my autist friend.

I'm not jerking off to Roaring Knight porn until I know 100% it's not Asgore or Rudie.
I'm not taking that 1% chance.

>>725791469
I will take that with pride.
>>725791569
Old JRPG character creators are too archaic for me, I guess.

>>725791270
Buying into femkris coin early will pay off bigly.

Man I hope there's an option for us to back up Susie at the end, Kris isn't our vessel anyway so it won't won't make much of a difference

>>725791661
Except you also said you want male Kris which makes you gay, so sorry, you have much to go.

>>725788846
>human genitals are so alien to monsters that no one knows what the fuck kris is suppose to be including his own family
HMoAFbros... this has some bleak implications for us

>>725791789
I said I preferred it, but I also said I didn't mind FemKris. That's because Kris is the least attractive human to me because he looks too male but stuff like this is good.
>>725791426

>>725788065
Toby is a massive faggot, but he's also a massive contrarian, and is actually pretty based about letting people have fun. So I could enby Kris just being another valid interpretation of the gender ambiguous presentation he gives Kris from Toby's point of view.

>>725790472
Why do the Japanese/Koreans love shipping the Soul with Kris so much?

>>725791642
Listen to your dick, it knows what your brain denies

>>725791958
Because they know the soul and Kris are two separate characters. I wish Kris would open up to me myself.

>>725791958
I assume it's that w*men there are more brazen about their Kris lust.

>>725791908
>he looks too male
Kris is so fucking female once you stop and look at the evidence it's not even funny. I thought you autists were good at that stuff.

>>725791319
I still think this is the only reason Kris doesn't want to hurt the Knight as well as why it can easily overpower every lightner in the Dark World: It's the power of a Monster + Human with all the advantages of a Darkner. It's the thing the humans of Undertale were specifically trying to prevent from happening by sealing away the monsters. And the prophecy and the story will eventually point out that the Knight is the worst case example of what humans fear of monsters always was.

>>725791958
People who get along with Kris are so weird to me.
Why do you fags want to be tethered to this little shit forever?
I want my vessel back.

>>725791958
We love Kris but Kris is tsundere. Kris thinks we hate him/her so s/he tries to play the part of the detestable villain so we won't feel bad when the big sacrifice has to be made.

What if when Asriel comes back, he looks and acts just like picrel. I think that would be epic.

Forcing Kris to fuck Noelle every night till they like it!

>>725792201
It's just that girls with hair covering their eye aren't my thing. FemKris art with the Mettaton esque look is really good.

>>725790707
Kris is specifically trying all of her best to hide what gender she is, what her interests are, what accomplishments she has, and what her friends and activities are. And she's doing it so much that it almost seems suspicious that her side of the room is missing everything compared to Asriel's side.

no way that's a coincidence. It's going to turn out that Kris' side of the room was punk just like big sis Dess' room looks.

>>725791829
what if monsters don't have genitals and monster babies literally come from a mommy monster and a daddy monster loving each other very much?

>>725789204
"Love too is an acronym" was a double subversion.

>>725792242
Jumping into this conversation to say I think P2/Cyan SOUL mode/Patience mechanic/Kris' actual SOUL will appear at some point in Deltarune and it will get unique mechanics from Blue SOUL mode. I'm thinking of a counterattack mechanic.

>>725792780
In what way?

The only canon route.

>>725791152
The Knight is kris's stand

>>725763747
man i love doppel

>>725792940
Oh man swapping souls with Kris or letting the Vessel/Noelle carry the blue soul would be peak.

By the way, Kris being a girl explains why they are so against being shipped with Noelle. Kris is straight.

>>725762418
>Thorn ring is a mind control artifact
Where you got that from buddy ol' chum

>>725793012
>>725793131
but then where does Ralsei fit in?

>>725789985
not her fault that human semen works twice as well as heat-suppressant pills with no risk of pregnancy, it's just the logical choice

>>725793598
>Trance

I still really like the idea that another anon had that monsters and humans stay separate since humans can become addictive to monsters. as human love is like cocaine to monster kind.

>>725793391
It's really funny to me how the SECOND human in Undertale is associated with a toy knife, ribbons, and bandages, three things that all fit Kris, and yet people refuse to connect the dots.

>>725792952
First subversion is Flowey saying that LV stands for LOVE instead of level like a normal RPG. The second is when Sans reveals that it actually is LOVE, Level Of ViolencE.

>>725793398
Kris is bi but scared of hurting Noelle due to the prophecy. Krusie is too canon for me to discount that.

>>725792242
It would also explain why the Knight doesn't swoon him.

I am surprised there are so many FemKrisfags in this thread. Usually 4chan sees all 3 humans as boys.

>>725752089 (OP)
AKA the antagonist of the game meanwhile (you) are the hero.

>>725794268
Susie and Kris are literally just friends. There's been zero romance between them.

>>725793885
Its only a trance because Noelle naturally goes into a trance when scared. The Noelle gives her constant pain, which excites her sadism, putting her in that scaroused trance.

>>725794367
>Usually 4chan sees all 3 humans as boys
Chara is a girl

>>725794367
I could go either way with Frisk and Chara, but Kris really seems like a guy. I prefer femChara though for the purposes of Asriel shipping.

>>725794367
I was a maleKris supporter for the longest time who only recently awoke to femKris. Usually the biggest barrier to overcome is self inserting as Kris. Chapter 4 weird felt way too much like all the edgy tragic yuri I read which did irreparable damage to my ability to self insert as Kris before the whole "she has dainty girly hands" settled in.

>>725794519
I see both Frisk and Chara as girls but that always felt unpopular here and only here.

>>725794227
LV was defined as LOVE in its introduction. The subversion of it also being an acronym was the later twist. I was referring to double subversions in relation to plot twists. Toby doesn't do double-layered red herrings. That's some Umineko shit.

>>725794601
Funny, female Kris and male or futa Chara feels right to me.
>toy knife
Obvious dildo
>real knife
About time.

>>725794367
I'm pretty sure there are only three of us. The lack of IP counter makes these threads appear more diverse than they really are.

>>725793012
This but Susie is strongfat and Noelle is overweight

>>725794519
Toby is a coward who retconned all the humans into girls. He saw them as boys during development.

>>725794837
Make that four, friend.

>>725794759
LV being introduced as LOVE is itself a subversion. Any normal person would think its level, and in any other rpg it is level, but here its love.

There's the whole Chara, Frisk, (you) thing where Flowey addresses Frisk as Chara, then its revealed that Frisk isn't Chara, but then its also revealed that Frisk isn't (you) either, leading the player to believe that (you) still are Chara, but then genocide reveals that (you) aren't Chara either.

>>725767595
>People who wanna turn a cute little faggot goat boy into a girl or a transgender instead of letting him be a cute little twink faggot goat
Gets my goat it does.

>>725794909
>during development
Post development too. It's another HIM, not another THEM. ;)

>>725794813
>futa
trash

>>725794837
That could be true, but it still feels more than usual. Even though I am a FemFrisk/Charafag, I don't mind it too much.

>>725795089
>faggot
Ralsei is exclusively attracted to women like Kris. Where's the gay?

>>725794367
I always thought people saw Frisk and Chara as girls and Kris as a boy

>>725795213
I'm using faggot like sissy or nancyboy, to describe how feminine and girly and adorable and pretty he is.

The gay is coming from inside the house, anon. Or bi-, I suppose.

>>725795305
I love Double King, absolutely hilarious video.

>>725795038
You are (kinda) Chara, though. It's convoluted enough that Flowey did see it that way.

>>725795305
FemboyxTomboy is dangerous. Careful.

>>725795425
Chara says otherwise.

>>725788023
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact it sound incredibly funny and if an activist actually tried to talk like that they'll be laughed at and made into a national meme.
https://youtu.be/Qe4XsnIxQwQ?si=hMcsOS0Cd6h-ku_4
https://youtu.be/a5XyqydSmDs?si=uy98Af8ynGf0Kli2
This was all over the place when it happened and every time something like this happens whatever non binary language change it's ridiculed by everyone.

>>725795217
That's the popular opinion in general.

>>725795815
My inner eternal contrarian stands for the inverse.

>>725795213
>Ralsei is exclusively attracted to women
wrong
>like Kris
DOUBLE wrong

>>725787926
You guys have latine/latrine tho

Deltarune is a bifag game

>>725795961
>>725796034
That's him blushing over two girls calling him cute. You would do the same in his position. It's one of the strongest pieces of evidence proving him straight, actually.

Frisk and Chara? Female.

Kris? Male.

Frisk and Chara? Shotas.

Kris? Tomboy onee-chan with GIANT tits tenting her shirt.

>>725796123
Everybody wanting to fuck Kris is actually the strongest evidence for girlhood. Berdly exclusively shows attraction to girls (and Kris). Noelle exclusively shows attraction to girls (and Kris). Hmm.

Chara? A cute girl
Frisk? Depends on which one is hotter at the moment
Kris? A shoddy vessel

>>725796367
Noelle could be excused under the self insert paradigm of "even lesbians want the MC" but Berdly makes it painfully obvious.

>>725796467
>the path of determination with Susie or path of genocide with Noelle

>>725752089 (OP)
Okay.
I'm gonna force THEM to fuck that doe

>>725796029
>latine/latrine
What? tf you talking about.
Whatever heresy the hispanic immigrant population of the US concocts is exclusively theirs since they are ostracized here and labeled as 'no sabos'

>>725796467
Vessel? Whatever you want, babe.

kris is really cute when she tries to be extra edgy because of us and could walk seemingly perfectly fine without the soul the whole time

>>725796578
>>725796367
>he think this is a girl
bait or retarded?

>>725796656
I'm talking about the latine gender neutral pronoun which sounds like latrine.

>>725752483
The thing about thorn ring is that the side route of chapter 3 implies that kris has fucked around before and is directly responsible for half the shit that is causing them issues right now.

They really don't want to make shit worse but part of them is like, why don't I find out?

>>725796750
Read the thread before posting anon, or play the game. She's a girl.

>>725796750
so true official art sister

Man, it's hard to believe this animation came out before new chapter, it got surprisingly many side details right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjgBdVOtZQo

>>725796750
YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE THE HOT WOMAN BODY AND TITS THE SUN IS SHINING THROUGH THE SHIRT

>>725796729
Kris's bare legs...

>>725796367
Berdly is just a bisexual faggot. He is mostly playing a rival for you over Noelle.

Noelle isn't even a lesbian, just Desspilled
>she clicks ads with female santas because thats how Dess was dressed up by Carol when she was alive
>She pines over Susie because she dresses and acts like Dess
Suselle is the most doomed yuri among all japanese media that Toby tries to beat

>>725797094
if you no hit the game she will let you watch her play dragonblazers on the bed with her legs spread

>>725796910
actual bait

>>725797010
>not fangamer
non official

>>725797051
its a square male body you faggot, you should jack off to more ralsei porn before posting

>>725797225
I am looking

>>725797180
Sure, every single character in the Deltarune universe could be bisexual. Or they're the same sexuality they were introduced as. I wonder which of these is the simpler solution?

>>725797282
>you should jack off to more ralsei porn
Good idea

>>725796464
How can something be so perfect

>>725797475
people headcanon straight canon characters like Asgore and Rudy to be fags then Noelle being straight is fair game

TELL ME WHO YOU THINK THE FINAL BOSS OF EACH ROUTE IS OR I'LL EAT YOUR SOUL!

>>725797282
gigi is an official artist, if you accept the fangamer art as canonical appearances then you have to accept art from someone who actually works on the game

>>725797282
toby specifically had me in mind with the they them shit he knows there is nothing hotter in fanart than cute girl versions of the mc
i know he knows after that ero games comment

>>725797696
Noelle in normal route
Susie in snowgrave route
SOUL on true route (unlocked after normal route end)

>>725797745
The only canon information is what's presented in the game itself during normal play. External sourced and datamined information is not canon.

I don't care what Noelle is, I just know that I think she's an annoying cringe dead weight on what is otherwise a very enjoyable experience so far and I think she's only going to get worse and worse outside of the weird route

>>725797745
no, some troons doing side fan art is not official you retard. Toby approved stuff beinf officialy sold on fangamer is as much as plushie depiction. And Toby takes depiction of his characters seriously as he refused to use Lightners in merch.

>>725797696
noelle in the normal route, but we play as her against kris susie and ralsai in the weird route

>>725797696
Normal Route: Kris
Weird Route: Spade King

>>725797475
>Or they're the same sexuality they were introduced as.
When did Berdly tell you he was straight?

>>725797180
>Berdly is just a bisexual faggot
He's just representative all the anons here who post about wanting to fuck twink characters

>>725798226
If Berdly was gay he would hit on Ralsei. He only hits on girls (and Kris).

I'm still mad about the rose. Not inherently because he may have altered the meaning of the scene, but because the objectively single most critical piece of imagery in the entire release wasn't vetted a dozen times to be ironclad 100% confident in it.

>>725798037
>Lightners don't get big merch because the entire theme of Deltarune is our relationship with the media we consume and how it can strengthen us in our day-to-day life and the unhealthiness of escapism, and treating them on the same level as Darkners would take away from that
This is dumb because I want a cute plush of my humanfucking purple lizzur wife but I can respect that level of commitment to your story and themes

>>725798037
>TFW Ralsei has as much depth of character, if not more, as the rest of the lightner cast but Tricky Tony is using the merch as a smokescreen.

>>725798351
He's disgusted by White Ralsei, as we all should be

Toby should simply end the gender debate with a hotsprings episode and we'll see which side Kris goes in.

Unless the team all go together in a mind gender baths....

>>725796783
>latine gender neutral pronoun
Thats what i was talking about anon.
It's known as lenguaje inclusive (inclusive language) which started as a feminist talking point, was laughed out of the room.
Then came back as a LGBT talking point for non-binary people, then got laughted out of the room (it did get implemented in a way but that just consisted of just using more female gendered words).
It has always been the laughing stock of the spanish-speaking world since its wholly incompatible with the way spanish works.

>>725797180
Suselle is just because every lesbian relationship requires there to be a man and woman in the relationship

>>725797180
>Suselle is hot garbage and brings the game down every time something related to it happens
ftfy

>>725752089 (OP)
I don't care, I like the purple dinosaur jailbait and the hot cop.

Stop lusting after Kris
NOW!

>>725752089 (OP)
I headcanon him as male
Would he like this pokemon?

It's been 18ish years are people still seethe about Naoto being female
Can you fucking imagine the sheer anal devastation if it was revealed that kris was female the entire time and covered up because of intense misogyny and societal expectations? (It's a mans world...)

Suselle would very completely ignorable if all the other romances were either written just as bad or didn't exist. But seeing it next to Kruise and Kriselle Ralsusie just highlights how fucking bad it is. The only ones that match with is are like, Kerdly and Kralsie and they are brief joke ships.

>>725794367
>4chan sees all 3 humans as boys.
How quick to be wrong
Kiddos, females
Little shit, male

>>725799660
Kerdly is the best
fuck off

>>725799749
Kerdly is yaoi suselle

reminder

>>725799006
>Susie relaxing in the hot springs between Kris and Ralsei with her arms around their shoulders
>Ralsei blushing completely red, literally steaming trying not to think about anything
>Kris completely stoic as ever but with just a hint of blush from the heat
Drawfriends?

>>725799660
Kerdly isn't just a joke, it's sideblastingly hilarious

>>725799838
At least they played games together
Noelle and Susie didn't do anything before Kris got in her way

Everyone is gonna feel stupid when the endgame ships are like, Noelle x Catti, Ralsei x Berdly, Kris x really hot darkner girl we don't meet until chapter 6, Susie x Chara or whatever.

>>725798226
Berdly said we're next

trust the berd

>>725800256
>Ralsei x Berdly
that would be hot
Me as Ralsei!

>>725800256
>Kris x really hot darkner girl we don't meet until chapter 6
Dess bros, we can't stop winning.

>>725800256
I'm gonna be honest I forced myself to finish the post but I realized immediately after Catti I already ran out of characters I can use for this bit. Like I wanted four "reasonable " ships that weren't any of 1.Already popular ship, 2. Insulting meme joke ships, 3. Not canonically possible age adult teen ship

Toby should have added a few more background filler teens that could feasibly be dated by someone.

>>725800560
i hate how she's only drawn darker
is there lighter fur Dess fan art?

>>725800763
Because of rudy she is thought to have that fur tone
There is only like one pic like what you ask and like that she just looks like noelle2.0

I will never forgive that hack Toby for making that Sussie x Noelle home DATE on chapter 5.
I was literally cucked in front of my face and couldnt do anything about it but fucking hear them
How could he do this to me? The fucking lizard is MINE MINE NO ONE ELSES FUCK YOU TOBY

>>725752089 (OP)
I really like him