We have fallen to a night attack...

>Origins reveal trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU48saHVmh4
>Origins gameplay features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8
>Origins - Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MEAKfgMyc
>Abyss - Launch Trailer
https://youtu.be/jn238X1UXoU?si=Yzz2RFhh_fDPOR2B
>Pirate Warriors 4 - Next Generation Trailer
https://youtu.be/GMKNpEASitY?si=yujKnMt-MVyja2mL
>Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kGASsFqQI

NEWS
>Origins spring updates added Photo Mode and various QoL improvements
>Abyss has received new Jin, Atelier, and Samurai Warriors characters, along with a new Traversal Level 6 difficulty and QoL improvements

Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqc
Recommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNS
PS2 game mods: https://pastebin.com/J96YhRu8

>New to the Musou-verse?
The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.
>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel
>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games
>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story
>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history
>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events
>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.

YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.
https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTrivia
https://www.youtube.com/@Klogalous
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollection
https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/
https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/


>FRIENDS:
https://boards.4channel.org/vg/catalog#s=dqg%2F

>PREVIOUS:
>>524533696

I'm playing NA13 Ascension, I started as a vassal of Murakami Yoshikiyo, after developing my hold I was promoted to chamberlain and after dealing with the Unno I was made lord of Toishi castle, after snatching Yukitata Sanada I was an offer by Nobutora Takeda to betray the Murakami which I did. Then I destroyed the Nagao and recently the Date who took all the north, now I have to deal with the Hojo who control Kanto. Also I married Yukitata daughter so all the Sanada are family now

I failed you /eagg/

What would be a good time and place for third Warriors series?

>>525826898
Masayuki is going to teleport behind you and betray you
>>525836396
End of Qin into Chu-Han Contention

The code for officers to revive at gates is kind of funny, it seems like regular officers don't respawn but subofficers do and that ends up being a hindrance as they get farmed over and over until their commander's morale hits 0 stars

>>525842740
He would never, I'm his brother in law, and I was able to keep Dosan as a vassal without him having a melty

>>525861931
Me spitting at page 10

>>525826898
The Hojo are fucking dicks in Soi, Ascension and Awakening. Their troops never seem to run out.

>>525876939
They keep pulling them out of the sea

>Page 10
Perhaps, it is time to let go...

>>525876939
It's over them, they can't stop me and once I'm done with them I'll betray the Takeda

>>525891316
The night watch must remain ever vigilant tonight...

>>>525891316

>>525898181
God tier channel
https://youtu.be/61J9m84jcrM?si=VAXPEeSNcS6MKqfX

>>525832467
>Wu hypothetical route.jpg

Tomohiko Sho's thoughts on Jin being added
https://twitter.com/koeilau/status/1826571262698946863

>>525907437
lizard brain tier take, why wouldn’t you want to see how it ends no matter how painful

>>525914647
I mean, he's not the only one. There's a lot of people who don't really care about the lead into the Jin Dynasty. For them, interest in the Three Kingdoms ends at Wuzhang Plains.

>Aid Katsuie and rescue Oichi mission
>find Sakuma Morimasa benevolent grave
Well I certainly didn’t know that when time for them runs out they have a line to spout, that’s nice. I’ll have to run around the earlier stages to find others like this.

>>525914647
In his interview he mentioned how the period after Zhuge Liang's death is something only the western audience is actually interested in. Japan and China in general don't care.

>>525907437
based Sho putting Jinshitters in their place, Origins Part 2 and all future mainline DW games will end at Wuzhang Plains. The characters will likely still appear in spin-offs, maybe empires, but story wise Jin probably won't ever be covered again in the main games.

>>525915605
>>525918071
They just don’t want to acknowledge that their Chinese losers get steamrolled by BBC (big barbarian cavalry) within 50 years of unification

>>525918071
>Jiang Wei launched multiples attacks against Wei for 30 years straight and jobbed every single time
>Deng Ai got sick of his shit and just march straight to the capital of Shu through an alternative route.... and win instantly.
>Sima Yi overthrew Cao family by pretending to be retarded for 10 years straight.
>Wu got into an internal power struggle so bad that it ceased to exist with zero intervention from Wei.
Literally nothing cool happened after Zhuge Liang died.

>>525920259
Shouchunbros...

>>525914647
I don't care about Jin, also I don't want the games to follow history no matter what you do because it's boring

>>525918060
Oh yeah, some do. It's a cool detail

>>525907437
Hmm, on one hand, no Jin means the games can focus more on what's widely considered the most interesting period of the Three Kingdoms, as well as open room for hypotheticals. On the other hand as Sho notes, no Yuanji. It's a tough choice

Does Hisahide just refuse to leave the Interim because that would be so him

>>525920575
Fourth time's the charm!

Why is Ii Naotora dead at Komaki

>>525842740
>End of Qin into Chu-Han Contention
Why that time?

>>525928469
Because it’s interesting as hell. Who doesn’t want to learn about the origins of the great Han dynasty? Liu Bang is the luckiest dude on the planet.

>>525933368
Why is Cao Mengde so based

>>525933542
hanging upside down, edging and drinking urine does that to you

I’m going to shoot my shot

>>525933542
That's just the wei it goes

do we expect anything at Summer Games Fest, or is it too western centric?

Sho said he wants to appeal to the west, but I think there's a strong chance we won't get any Origins hypothetical DLC so don't really expect to see anything at SGF.

So I'm doing a Cao Cao campaign and the last story battle I had ( I've side missions to get people's training or whatever bonding things you call them completed) was with Lu Bu attempted to take over the Home Base Line( apparently back campaign in real life lasted like a hundred days for Cao Cao) I remember they're supposed to be hypothetical scenarios when do I need to worry about the first battle that will affective if Cao Cao gets his hypothetical scenario?

>>525961870
Hypotheticals are very small in Origins and based entirely on saving key figures from their historical deaths, which is just achieving difficult tasks (for a first playthrough) in the missions they die. So no, you don't have to worry about that battle.

>>525976762
>young pretty boy Zhuge Liang vs. decrepit old man Sima Yi
Every time

>>525924098
Yes, he's going to stay there and die by my hand a thousand of times. Nobody mess with my shogun Ashikaga Yoshiteru

>>525937894
Sorry bro, only BKC. Big kodama cock

>>525962770
Don't even think about touching her.

it's looking grim for this thread

If Lingqi was playable in Origins we would be booming.

>>525914647
from the perspective of the devs look at it this way: if you need to create a ton of new characters solely for the boring second half of the story, and the only way to redeem it would be massively fictionalizing the events, why not just do what-if stories with the existing first half everyone already loves

If you have ever danced in your life you should kill yourself

>>525962770
I feel I would have been vastly more interested in WO4 if they had updated the really outdated movesets, such as the characters whose kit date back to DW3.

kek Katō Kiyomasa is such an asshole

Ruinous Gouma is absolute cancer

Other than Lu Bu, how many enemies can counter parry you in Origins?

>>526023635
None

>>526023635
>>526023854
Since Lu Bu would already be dead in the sequel they should just give that ability to max courage officers instead of giving them massive health bars

>>526025832
Or maybe just enemy officers when they're supposed to be monstrous for a given stage, like Zhang Liao at Hefei or Gan Ning at Ruxukou. Although a DW game without Lu Bu just feels wrong, historical accuracy be damned.

Not today!

>>526016301
Konishi fucking own him here. Honestly I'm liking that guy more and more with everything I read about him, make him playable for the next SW

>>526034892
Meanwhile Katō looks more and more like a psycho

>>526036574
Poor Nabeshima, he's a cool guy but he's stuck with that psycho. It's really funny how they made Kato in SW

>>526036574
>with this demonstration of Kato's determination
That's a weird way of saying "fucking pyschopath"

Image of lion yelling at chimpanzee

>>526055883
Hideyoshi really grow retarded in his old age.

>>526026796
Yeah that'd be cool too. I just hope they do something with it, being suddenly forced to react to his follow up made Lu Bu a lot more fun

Obu nobunaga 3 greatest military victories and why?

>>526001821
She was shipped off to Yuan Shu off screen

>playing DW8 for the first time
>having a blast
>doing the story mode missions
>get to the Battle of Hefei on the Wu side
>go through a tunnel cave area in the west side
>accidentally press the call horse button
>didn't expect anything, since I was so used to not being able to call horses when I'm in these tunnel cave areas in SW4 and SW5
>the horse actually came

Why can't we do this in SW?

Oh shit. I finally get to play as my beautiful wife!

>>526087627
She’s so terrible to play

>>525907437
there's more dudes they can add to the existing timeline before even getting to the Sima clan stuff later on. Hell I'd rather they go backwards and focus on stuff earlier on in the period than later, at least at first.

>>526091916
Having just finished playing a map with her, I have to say that she feels very nerfed compared to her WO3U version.
But then again, in WO3U I had her completely decked out with maxed out things like Agility, Blast, Windslay and equipped with items that allowed her to sidestep cancel and jump cancel her charge attacks.
Speaking of which, I don't like how DW8 removed the different classes that were in WO3U (Power, Speed, Technique, Wonder). It felt so good being able to do wonder charge cancels with Wonder characters or double jump with speed characters.
Anyway, I'll wait until I have my wife properly geared up in DW8 before I render my final views on her in this game.

On a different topic: Why did they make this guy so fucking plain and ugly?

>>526094863
>On a different topic: Why did they make this guy so fucking plain and ugly?
Who, Ling Tong? He's a big beautiful boy and you're not even showing us his good side.

>>526094863
>I don't like how DW8 removed the different classes that were in WO3U (Power, Speed, Technique, Wonder)
You sort of have that with Whirlwind/Dash/Dive/Shadow Sprint, but you don't unlock those skills until Lv25 in DW8, which is late in the campaign unless you grind in advance.

>>526095963
Oh, I guess I wasn't clear. I was talking about Han Dang. He looks like every mid-life crisis Asian uncle ever.

>>526096103
Thanks. I'll look forward to that.

>>526070616
I already talked to you about this

>>526097125
Who? Anon there's only Ling Tong in your last image.

>>526097125
I should warn you, the weapon abilities in DW8 aren't as involved as the classes in WO3.
>Whirlwind creates a mini tornado around your character every other attack, allowing you to play more aggressively, but it's completely passive.
>Dash is your regular jump cancel and air dash combo.
>Dive allows you to escape getting hit or iframe out of enemy combos by pressing the jump button. Doesn't really help you on the higher difficulties, where your biggest threat is getting one shot from offscreen by enemy Musou attacks.
>Shadow Sprint allows you to cancel a charge attack by pressing the normal attack button, allowing for easy infinite combos with some weapons.

>>526102045
Heh. Took me too long to get it.

>>526102626
At least these things are bound to weapons instead of specific characters. So I'm guessing that every character has access to all of these abilities?

>>526106339
Sort of. Every character has compatibility with different weapon types, and under normal circumstances can only use the skill of a weapon that matches their preferred weapon type at Lv25 and up. However, you can equip skills to give any character temporary 4-star compatibility with any weapon. Explore the skill menu to find out more.

>>526094863
>Speaking of which, I don't like how DW8 removed the different classes that were in WO3U (Power, Speed, Technique, Wonder).

The different class types was always more of a Warriors Orochi mechanic. The mainline DW and SW games don't have it.

Taking the day off work. Gonna watch this later today. Part 1 of it, at least, because both parts combined is like almost 6 hours. I'll watch part 2 on the weekend. I love John Woo. I love the Three Kingdoms. I hope this is kino.

Page Nineji

Page Lingqi

>>526137895
Guan Yu, that's not how you score a touchdown.

Guan Yu if he shaved.

Fuck this.

There's gonna be a Sony State of Play soon, what are the chances of them announcing an Origins DLC or Abyss next update?

>>526139574
Scary

I just want the Switch 2 to be get a port of DW Origins and have it be able to run at 1080p/60fps in handheld mode. If it can do that, then it can run every other SW/DW/WO game at 1080p/60fps, and I'll always have something to play while idling in transit.

>>526162081
Leaked footage of the port
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0IXlWT0yHU
Though realistically the CPU is going to be the bigger bottleneck for a Switch 2 port than the GPU

>>526157537
abyss will get more at some point, but I think there's a higher chance of origins not getting any DLC than there is of it getting some. I wouldn't mind a hypothetical for lu bu or whatever, but I think they'll just quickly start on the sequel instead.

>>526157537
Origins Lingqi route dlc

>>526153175
No, fuck you!

>>526173250
Sho's already teasing new content on twitter that paired with the weapon polls they did a month or so ago point to DLC being more than likely

>>526137895
Are the Kessen games worth playing in this day and age, or were they always just the movie games with a faint veneer of strategy laid over?

lvling bodyguards in dw3xl is so tedious. Get them through to the end of the stage and then the enemy commander kills them in 2 hits and they get zero XP if they don't survive the stage.

>>526183548
what new content has sho teased for Origins?

I know he did a weapons poll a few months ago I haven't seen him say anything related to new content for origins since the "big" update that turned to be a useless photo mode and 1 costume.

>>526190112
I started playing a few days ago and they've only gained points on one stage, I'll probably have to lower the difficulty and go into free mode if I want them to get a single level

>>526190112
>>526195719
Set them to Shield or Defend and they will just guard around you the whole time, drastically increasing their survivability

>>526195936
yeah thats what I've been doing. Just gotta keep replaying low level stages until they lvl up a bit, but that's a bit boring.

You guys think they're holding off on DWO/Warriors Abyss stuff til State of Play or Summer games fest?

Nioh 3 has been announced, early 2026, PS5 only, demo available today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gjPYlpEYZk

>>526190112
you only need to level up them once and then they stay good forever.
You need to level up second group of guards only if you play coop.

>>526206720
Kou saw me posting my first time playing 1 and 2 and did it for me

>>526206720
Judging by the dialogue at the end, we're either playing a young Ieyasu Tokugawa or a nameless self-insert who is working with Tokugawa. I was hoping we'd actually get something set in the modern day, but this is fine.
I guess on the bright side we actually get to see figures that the Nioh games haven't actually delved into yet, like Shingen (pic related) and maybe even Nioh's version of Kenshin (I wonder if they're gonna make him a woman).

>>526209858
Shingen looking like the pneumonia's hitting fierce

>>526206720
Correction, only the demo is PS5 exclusive, the full game will also be on Steam per the official website
https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/

>>526209858
inb4 now there’s two ieyasu’s alongside the existing 2 hideyoshi’s(real one and created character) from nioh 2

Yep. It's him. Demo is up btw.

>>526209858
>>526210985
>>526212442
https://youtu.be/1SbUt1-N-TU?si=kKw8FbAmqD2HGmYH

Samurai/ninja stances do NOT replace low/mid/high, it looks like basically every system from Nioh 2 is back on top of samurai/ninja

>>526216854
It's also combining stuff from Wo Long, ROTR and Stranger of Paradise. I'm excited.

>>526206720
>dub trailer
Also why do they keep doing exclusives?

>>526209858
>we're either playing a young Ieyasu Tokugawa
Your theory made me puke a little
>or a nameless self-insert who is working with Tokugawa
Again? It wasn't enough with William and Hide? Now I have to help that fat fuck AGAIN!? I though Kou was a nobunagachad but it seem he's a Tokugawafag

>>526217636
>insulting the bringer of peace
man you can drop deeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaad

>>526217636
>Now I have to help that fat fuck AGAIN!?
I hope Team Ninja just uses his SW5 design for this game. I need my cute twink boywife.

>>526222820
>>526224789
Begone! I'll have you execute, your heads will be show to everyone who enter this thread to know what happen to Tokugawafags

More......... insects!

Seems to take place roughly around the same time as Nioh 2 chronologically.

>>526237056
Probably a lot of time skips like with that. I really hope they cover Shingen taking power from his old man and beyond

>>526210985
Considering he dies a year after the year of the demo's events, yeah, he was probably already sick here.

>>526237056
There were Oda flags in the trailer, but I'm guessing this is going to cover a lot of the 'other' stories that Nioh 2 didn't cover. Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo, etc.

realistically, how long until Origins Part 2? Part 1 was in development for quite a few years. We're only 2 - 2.5 years away from the next gen of gaming, so Origins:P2 could very well be an early PS6 title as it's slated for late 2027.

>>526260441
There was a large gap because Koei cancelled DW10 and used some assets for Origins.

>>526240839
Good god, I hope they do the same thing Nioh 2 did by having an epilogue set AFTER the events of the predecessor game. It'll be both a prequel and a sequel.

Don't worry, Warriorsbros. Since we didn't get a DWO DLC update even at this State of Play event, that means that they're already working on a sequel or a possible SW Origins game.
It means we can stop crossing our fingers for a DWO expansion DLC, since at this point it's crystal clear in that it's not being made. In a way, we can finally have peace of mind.

Toukiden is.......................Toukidead.

>>526273619
Never played Toukiden, but isn't Wild Hearts basically Toukiden's spiritual successor? If so, then it's still kind of alive in the form of Wild Hearts S.

>>526271094
there's still summer games fest tomorrow, but I've always said its more likely they move onto part 2 instead of doing an expansion. Cant completely rule out DLC as its Koei at the end of the day, but wouldn't bet on it.

>>526262003
>1185
>end of the Genpei war
what the fuck is even the point, there’s no hogen rebellion or time to get to know the Taira or the Minamoto

Eat the korean baby kiyomasa

Are these games any good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lBhXtJ-_c0

>>526281134
If you enjoy rts and micro management of resources yes, they are great

>>526281134
Yeah, NA series is pretty solid.
>Decisive Battles
Rise to Power bros are eating good

>>526281134
Niceeeeee, now I can stop playing ascension. Fuck that retainer that tell me to betray my master every fucking turn, he trick me! He ruined my game!
>>526281879
Awakening is waaaaaay better than SOI and Ascension, at least I don't have to rebuild every castle from zero because the IA is fucking stupid. Capturing new castles is so annoying now

>>526279054

>>526274480
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't plan DLC at first but possibly changed their minds seeing the game's legs, for a relatively 'finite' musou game it's holding very strong in Asian markets, still reaching ~3k peak daily CCU on Steam almost 5 months after release

>>526271094
bait or heavy copium. Call it

>>526016301
what book and author, again?

>>526287015
Saved. Also
>Fukushima is retarded
>Kato is a psychopath
>Ishida is retarded
Nene did such a shitty job

this board is too fucking fast anymore

Tenji

>>526334512
There are like 50 gachanigger generals, I'm more impressed that this general stays afloat at all.

Bros, where's Pirate Warriors 5?
Where's the DLC for PW4 that they made a survey for?

They didn't even post the results of the survey, WTF?
I know that's a way to keep the people whose picks didn't win involved,
but according to them the game sold 4 million copies.

What's going on with the lack of communication?

And please don't tell me they're waiting for the anime to end Egghead.
5 could've come out when Wano/ Onigashima ended.

/eagg/'s perilous night watch begins, what is your favorite night battle in a musou game?

>>526367273
The one where I battle against my urge to sleep because of the fact that I'm playing a musou game!

>>526357926
Koei Tecmo are stingy faggots. Omega Force and Team Ninja need better publishers. It's been a well-known and established fact for ages now.

>>526373875
One Piece is entirely Bamco's affair. It is well known at this point that KT would actually treat the franchise right.
>>526357926
They're working on it blud. And yes, the anime sadly determines where the arcs cut off.
>PW5 could have come out when Onigashima ended
no it couldn't

>>526319851
Imjin War, Samuel Hawley

>>526016301
These accounts are always so fascinating. What could have provoked this kind of pettiness from Kiyomasa? It just felt uncalled for, especially coming from someone who serves under a man (Hideyoshi) who was born a fucking peasant. If being from a family background of medicine sellers is supposed to be bad or embarrassing somehow, what does that make Kiyomasa, a man who serves a lord whose background is from the lowest rungs of society?

>>526379602
I suppose the primary difference is that Konishi couldn't have Kato's entire bloodline removed from the gene pool just for talking smack.

This has got to be the worst mission in DW8 so far.
So insanely buggy in terms of event triggers and so much backtracking.
The gate you see flashing on the left didn't open until I went and crossed an invisible tripwire in the environment. I assumed I could pre-emeptively wait at the game because at that point I figured out that I needed to be ready to destroy any enemy ballistae that was in the way of our ram.

Also, I guess it didn't help that I'm using Wang Yi, an utterly dogshit character.
>Her C2 EX move is trash on officers because the start-up animation takes so long that an officer hit by the first normal attack before the C2 has enough time to get out of blockstun and block the entire string of the C2 EX attack
>Her first and second musou attacks whiff enemy officers so easily and basically do nothing at all if they miss (ZERO crowd control potential)
>Her third musou attack has crowd control, but is so goddamn narrow in its AOE

I will never use this character again after this mission is over.

>>526383957
Oh, and lest I forget: Her EX2 start-up animation is so slow that officers will often block the "grab" and just render the entire EX attack obsolete, so you have to deliberately target weak fodder enemies and hope that the flash grazes the officer's hitbox.
Wang Yi was great in WO3. They made her so shit in this game, in large part due to the bigger overall problems of officers being more block-happy than they ever have been in SW4, SW5 and WO3U. They will constantly block your attacks and even full musous.
Mind you, this is on Normal difficulty. I cannot imagine how insanely cancerous officers will be on the hardest difficulty.

>>526384512
>block the "grab"
I thought the whole point of most grab moves in fighting games is that they're unblockable? Mickey Mouse bullshit like this is why I didn't bother playing as three quarters of the cast in 8.

>>526386946
I hate to sound like a broken record, but once again, WO3 got this right despite coming out 2 years before DW8.
Characters like Sophitia in WO3 had grabs that enemy officers just couldn't block.
And since we're on the topic of how much DW8 is an utter downgrade compared to WO3, here's another thing that DW8 fumbled: The sense of fluidity from dash attacks into C2 attacks.
In WO3, you could sprint, do a dash attack, and immediately go into a C2 attack. The entire process was fluid.
In DW8, if you sprint and do a dash attack, you cannot immediately go into a C2 attack. You have to wait until the recovery animation of the dash attack was over, then do a single normal attack, and then you get to do a C2 attack.
It's so retarded.

>>526387645
But then on the flip side it's ridiculously easy to cancel combos using the switch attack and its iframes, to the point that being stuck in a big crowd of officers is better than 1v1 because you can switch attack/counter your way to victory.

>>526389046
You mean the R1 weapon switching attack?
I don't like that move, because that fucks up your positioning, often making you face away from the officer you're trying to hit, forcing you to turn around and restart your combo from scratch so that you can get the charge attack you desire (something that could have been fixed if this game had dodge offset to continue charge combo sequences after dodging like in Warriors Abyss).
If this is the optimal way of clearing crowds of officers, then I'm not still on board DW8 and think its combat is marked step down compared to WO3, which offered tremendous freedom in how you could use your attacks to deal with officers and crowds.
Not to mention I hate the R1 switch because, depending on the enemy officer, it can result in you getting the shit weapon affinity with the giant exclamation mark that gives the enemy officer insane hyper armor against your attacks. So you either have to wait for him to do a blue attack that you can counter with an R1 switch back to your original weapon, or you switch back to your original weapon anyway.
It feels very stiff.

>>526379602
>What could have provoked this kind of pettiness from Kiyomasa?
Isn't it just because Kiyomasa hates Christians?

>>526387645
>It's so retarded.
Different game, different design philosophy. I won't argue that DW8's combat structure isn't worse than WO3U, because it definitely is, but I think you're going to have a really bad time with DW8 if you keep comparing it to WO3U.

>>526371229
Shut the fuck up zhenji

>>526383957
>Wang Yi, an utterly dogshit character
Skill issues, literally one of the best and most fun characters. It's unbelievable that you're having troubles which such a brain dead game like DW8

>people talking about gameplay and writting boring wall of texts

>>526394382
Yes, Kiyomasa hates Christmas

>>526379602
>1.
Kiyomasa had served Hideyoshi from the beginning and Yukinaga joined after so there was probably a jealousy/intimidated by a newcomer angle
>2.
Religious differences, Yukinaga was a Christian and Kiyomasa was a Buddhist, almost to cult like fanaticism. When Kiyomasa was butchering Christians in his territory, Yukinaga sheltered them.
>3.
Their territories were literally next to each other, one had the northern half of Higo province (on Kyūshū) and the other had the southern half. I believe even if Sekigihara didn’t happen, one would have ended up killing each other in a border war.
>4.
They were both different people when it came to fighting and it’s not a slight against Yukinaga here but he was definitely more a negotiator, Kiyomasa was a militarist and more than ready to skewer the problem as was shown in Korea.


As an addendum, it shouldn’t be surprising that Kiyomasa felt vindicated in his feelings during the war. At the start, Yukinaga was supposed to wait for his other allied divisions after taking Busan but didn’t and immediately advanced to the capital. Whether this was a fuck you to Kiyomasa and or wanted to blitzkrieg the Koreans into surrender with minimal loss of life is up for interpretation, Kiyomasa took it as and called it out as Yukinaga being a glory hog.

>>526399728
I've had it with the bullying

>>526411113
I'll kill you!

>>526409940
Yukinaga seem like a better general and Kiyomasa seem like a jealous bitch

>>526418474
Bullets can't stop me, nor can they help you where you'll be going

Damn, traversal 6 in 37 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7TjMjEHi8

>>526419908
Silence you fat cow! Also I did that picture

Sho here

origins fans, please look forward to summer games fest tonight

>>526431562
I don't believe you. Take this charlatan outside and execute him.

Koei probably would've been announced here if they were going to do something at SGF. Maybe one of their games under another publisher will be shown, like NG4 under Xbox, but I doubt we'll see any of their self-published games.

>>526445413
Welp. Wrap it up. Omega Force are not announcing anything.
Since Nintendo is listed there, the only hope I have is maybe a new gameplay trailer for that Hyrule Warriors sequel being made by KT's new subsidiary.

trailer for chronicles medieval at SGF looks cool. Always thought koei are leaving money on the table by not making a more immersive DW game and setting it in medieval europe or the british isles

>>526453981
>trailer for chronicles medieval at SGF looks cool.
>almost no gameplay
>looks cool
Dunno about that.

>>526376202
>PW5 could have come out when Onigashima ended

The made PW2 with original story.
Wano/Onigashima was 4 years
and there's a lot of Wano content that wasn't in base PW4.

They could've release 5 when Egghead ended in the manga,
anime it's not an excuse.

And in the case anime was an excuse,
that doesn't excuse the lack of communication.

>>526467959
They should be working on the game already.

The systems at least should be in place,
then adding characters or content
shouldn't be a problem because there's extensive source material.

My copium and hopium was that the content they released as DLC for 4
was just content they had been working on for 5.
But then they announced more DLC for 4 and a next gen update.

That was weird as hell, and it doesn't give me much hope.

>>526453981
I'm hoping it'll be something like that but I could barely tell because like the other anon said, nobody shows gameplay in their trailers.

Tenji!
>>526431056
I know, how the turntables

I don't know what exactly they changed, but Spear feels... pretty off to use in Nioh 3

>>526493685
Give me that! Heh dumb bitch

>>526497391
You are quite possibly the rudest person I know
And I begrudgingly know quite a few people, so that's saying a lot

Sometimes I have to remind myself what these games actually looked like at the time and not spruced up in emulators

>>526501120
Hyper looks soooo good, but they just had to make it incomplete

>>526501120
KT's Warriors games didn't get good art direction until Samurai Warriors 4.
Every other game prior to that just ages poorly in terms of visuals. And mind you, I'm not just talking strictly about graphics. I'm talking about art direction. KT's Warriors games have just been ugly for most of their history. The first Dynasty Warriors game I'd say looks actually beautiful in terms of art is Origins.
Meanwhile, I could pick up old PS2 games like Maximo Ghosts to Glory or Okami, and they'd still look great on emulator to this day even without any upscaling.

This is my wife.

>>526511687
Pang Hui-kun...

Cute girl (boy).

>>526459434
>>526478162
Pretty obvious what its going to be from the last 20 seconds of the trailer with all the enemy troop formations as he looks over the ridge and that HUD, it's a Mount&Blade competitor. Just checked their website:-
>"step into a vast, dynamic medieval sandbox. Create your character and forge your path from rags to riches. Engage in intense combat, fight for land, glory, and legacy, and lead massive armies into epic, large-scale battles."

The rest of the info on the site makes it sound even more mount&bladey. It's about time that franchise got some real competition as while bannerlord was fine and sold over 5 million copies, they simply ignored player demands for more depth and modders had to do things the dev's should've done. I'd love a DW spin-off that tried this kind of battle approach with proper formations, no anti-player bias for amy size & morale, and more realistic combat (without being a true sim). So at the end of a stage instead of KO'ing 2000 easily like you're just mowing the lawn, you might end up with 100 - 200 KOs, but they'd be far more meaningful kills.

>Sho intentionally gave Lu Bu buff to a Gate Captain

>>526523091
Evil

Do musou games have to be insanely grindy as fuck?
Even if [insert musou game you like here] had every character's level maxed out, you'd still enjoy a good 100+ hour game playing through all story missions on the hardest difficulty and completing all objectives.
And that's assuming you're only rotating through a handful of characters. You can easily get 5-6 times as much playtime trying to play every mission with each character.
Early and mid game in these games is just miserable. You have a slow character with a shit weapon, with shit items to equip, and a shit and slow horse.

>>526498084
What you're going to do about it, pussy?

>>526529392
He won't be so evil once I domesticate him with my dick and make him my wife.

>>526529446
Grinding is one of the fun in a Musou game though. And you really don't have to grind all of the characters, just stick to the ones you like that would still give you plenty of hours of enjoyment.

>>526529615
Cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>526530438
all he cares about is killing deer and Koreans

>>526529446
Just use CE like I do

I want to ctrl+alt+delete every bastard stunlocking archer/crossbowmen in dw3. hated it as a kid and still hate it now. The damage isn't the issue, it's the constant dizzy/stunlock that leaves your butt wide open. It's infuriating.

>>526527561
That's hilarious he acknowledges that someone accidentally swapped SSX's health with the gate captain nearby, I guess it was a funny joke on the dev team

I don't understand build optimization in this game, but I sure as hell know that getting a setup that allows me to summon specific officers with literally zero cooldown even if I use the speed summon shortcut is broken as fuck. I was able to endlessly summon Yukimura and melt the shields of bosses in seconds, all while constantly maxing out my musou gauge.

I've noticed an overlap between DW fans and wrestling fans... whats the link?

>>526526776
>Mount&Blade
Still a shame what happened with Butterlord. Hoping this game fills the niche. Even if it doesn't, it's still good that it got a competitor though, I see the same with some indie stuff that's been stagnant as of late, and I'm always glad for a competitor to come around and give them a swift kick to the rear.
Just a shame I can't think of many games that attempts to fill the same niche as musou. Would be nice to see something like 99 Nights or KUF again.

>>526543128
Superpowered dudes steamroll paid actors and cut hype as fuck promos before duking it out with finishing moves while there are scantily clad females standing around. Only thing missing is the commentary table.
Seriously, don't tell me you never played through a stage while meticulously planning out a storyline on who you kill in what order at least.

kek Won Kyun is such a jealous bitch

>>526543128
War was a great story before guns

>>526327918
Nene was also 1,000 years old and barren, she had too much on her plate

>DW8 came out 14 years ago

>>526588164
The fact that they still use assets from DW8 in new games like Abyss is insane.

>>526589143
Why not though?
They reuse everything BUT the map asset for the Orochi series.

>>526607438
my feeling is that Origins homoerotic bond events are nothing new to the franchise. It's just that they were always tucked away in some side mode that requires some extraneous requirement to raise, so most people never see them. In Origins however, they are front and center in the campaign, their requirements can be achieved during regular play, so now most people can view them.

>>526588164
time flies

>>526621337
He's a few years off, but DW7 had its 15 year anniversary a few months ago
I have a lot of issues with 7, but I can't deny the fact that buying a used copy on a whim after dropping musou post-DW5 brought me back into the fold, so it'll always have a little place in my heart. I think it's a DW everyone should play once they have some investment in the series but never as their first game.

>>526607438
This retard would be saying this after raising our first child in a loving caring home together

>>526613759
>requires some extraneous requirement to raise
>making friends is extraneous effort
>and also homoerotic
Anon...

>>526588164
>nioh 3 is coming out 10,000 years from now

Is the PS3 version of Samurai Warriors 3Z worth playing? I want to play at least one Samurai Warriors 3 game, but I heard that all but the PS3 version of 3Z are shit and slow as molasses in terms of gameplay.

>>526628440
I enjoyed 3Z but I'm also saying that as someone that enjoyed 3.
>I heard that all but the PS3 version of 3Z are shit and slow as molasses in terms of gameplay.
Might be anecdotal or placebo, seen some mention otherwise too. That it's the exact same as it was on the original 3. It's been too long since I last played, so I can't really give an accurate answer here either.

>>526630191
So what exactly does 3Z improve? Every time I read about gen 3 of SW, people say that vanilla 3 is trash but 3Z on the PS3 is good.

hiragumo my beloved let’s go to page 10 together

Oh what the fuck, I just read Zhou Yu's passives.
So the reason why I've been able to melt bosses and get fast clears with him was because he literally has a 30 percent passive damage buff against bosses.
I think I'll be using him as my first traversal 6 character.

Is there a recommended cumulative level progression for each traversal level? Like, if I want to tackle traversal 2, what is my recommended cumulative level? 100? 150?

>>526645734
In my experience, LV300+ for T5 is doable, LV200+ for some of the more broken characters lik Nobunaga or Mature Yukimura, and T6 pretty much requires LV500.

Now that I'm more aware of the Sengoku period, SW is a really strange game all things considered.

>>526645995
Thanks. What about T2? My cumulative level is currently 59 for Zhou Yu. When can I move up? Should I grind until I'm at cumulative LV100?
>and T6 pretty much requires LV500.
Damn. At about 30 levels per run, that's about 14 more runs to go just for Zhou Yu.

>>526654856
Why

>suggest IRL fren to get Origins last week
>already uninstalled it

Feels bad man. tldr, he liked the actual combat but hated the running from A to B to C to save crying allies part of the game, which raises its head in most stages.

Surely that final Wu slot is going to be for my beautiful wife Lianshi in a later content update, right?

>>526659835
>be game about the Sengoku
>has Hideyoshi and Ieyasu as semi imporant NPC and not fully playable, that's like if they make Cao Cao playable in DW2 but Liu Bei and Sun Quan are UNPC only
>supposedly focuses on Nobunaga
>but doesn't feature the Shogun
>Nobunaga's important retainers like Katsuie, Nagahide and Toshiie are generics, yet has his fuckboi being playable
>Keiji is also playable despite being more well known for fighting under the Uesugi at Haseo, which wasn't even a stage in SW1
>has Yukimura, whose only actual feat is going suicidal at Osaka, 30 years after Nobunaga's death
>he's the poster boy to boot
>he also has an OC ninja girl, despite the fact Sarutobi Sasuke is an insanely popular ninja despite being a literal who
>Shingen, one of the era's biggest conquerors, is very close to being portrait as a joke character
>Masamune being a brat and just interferes with battles that have absolutely nothing to do with him or the Date, and whatever historically significant about him is completely absent
>inclusion of Goemon and Okuni as playable characters

tl;dr: The first game has a lot of really bizarre choice for a roster with too many literal who characters, while some of the more major figures of the era are missing.

playing dw4xl, why is the stage participants so random, like Ma Chao and Zhao Yun fighting for shu as NPCs during a yellow turban stage?

>>526669857
As you unlock characters they get inserted into past stages on repeat playthroughs, but since XL has them all unlocked at the start you see that immediately.

>>526667179
It’s just that simple

kek Hideyoshi is such a loving father

>>526139574
The peerless chin

>>526695574

>>526695817
https://youtu.be/moNHrJweepg?si=_bfKdQIb13XBO5g-

>>526689091
Was there anyone notable from this era who wasn't psychotic

>>526667179
SW1 was just a mishmash of famous people from the era, it wasn't really trying to be a close retelling of history, SW2 was when they started trying to do that really

>>526700527
Those kids were being mean to his precious baby boy

kek Won Kyun is such a spastic loser

>>526667179
I still play SW1 from time to time just because you can parry arrows and everyone has their own unique variation of bow and arrow (ninja throws shuriken).

>>526645734
T1-T5 are all doable with any characters. level up HP recover, Hall of Bonded Souls stat buff and summons will make up for your skill issue.
T6 is where shit gets real.

>>526588164
>>526589143
>>526595642
I was going to make a point about DW5 designs getting milked too, but there was only four years between DW5 and Musou Orochi Z.

>>526708351
It's just reflective of game development getting longer for everyone across the world, big and small.

>>526725245

>>526725662
kek Won Kyun is such a failure

>>526725245
>>526725662
>>526726058
Admiral Yi must've been a fucking miracle worker.

>>526728672
He was also operating under these circumstances with Won Kyun actively working against him

>>526628431
Nioh 3 will end in Japan in the year 300X

>>526743089
It is known

>>526707345
I understand what kind of specific formation you should go for. So for example, if I play Zhou Yu, I should pick formations that boost attack based on how many fire emblems I have.
That I understand.
The thing that confuses me the most is optimizing formations in terms of officer choices.
At what point does Enma's recommended formation harm you or give you a bad formation that's actually not the best possible formation you can have?

She's strong and fun.
Pretty much all her charge attacks are excellent, even her C1. It's big AOE explosions everywhere. Quite befitting of a battle mage like her.
And she's very sexy too. I hope she makes it to future musou games, like Warriors Orochi 5.

>>526764997
Also, I fucked up once again by not carefully reading her description. She benefits from having high Wind stat. So I was playing an unoptimized build by pumping her with the Fire stat.

>>526762464
I just keep using officers that have Lu Bu emblem because my boy Cheng Gong has the ability to summon everyone within his own faction at once.
Obviously there are better formations but I'm biased.

Fact: Warriors Abyss is a better roguelite than Nightreign.

>>526725245
>>526725662
>>526726058
YEAH! THE SHIMAZU RULES! TAKE THAT KOREANS!

Whoever's pointed it out here before, you're absolutely right about the guitar in DW8's soundtrack, it sounds awful

>>526784457
the best way I can described it is that DW8 guitar has this weird whininess to it. Like it sounds ok sometimes, but when it tries to hit certain notes, it just sounds ear grating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXClC82cc0

I like DW8's OST... I've always thought that aside from some really good songs like Thousand Suns and Last Battle, DW7's OST was the more forgettable one.

>>526787771
For me it's 4>5>6>>>>>>7 or 8 whatever

>>526787950
>DW5 at anywhere but the bottom
DW5 only has Great Red Spirit and that's it.

This game needs to be clearer in telling the player what he's supposed to do.
I reset my save like 5 times to figure out what I was supposed to do to get the successful pincer attack at the end so that I can get the final gold star.

>>526798508
At least they tell you...

>Battle of Myeongnyang
>14 quadrillion Japanese ships vs 13 Korean ships
kek the Japanese navy is such a failure

>>526798508
Why don't you just complain that the game doesn't play itself for you at this point. The dialogue is very easy to understand, and iirc, you can only really fail the strategy if you ignore Zhou Yu's advice and rush ahead, or run too far away from Zhou Yu and accidentally run into the Wei army before they are lured out.

Sho...please....we need news....*cough*....

>>526792184
All the themes of 5 are great, you're a faggot.

>dw4xl with advanced+ ai mod

The duels are near impossible. The AI is literally frame perfect and do massive damage.

>>526818937
I've only tried the DW3 one that's just a minor boost to the AI rather than making them killing machines

>>526784457
Yeah but it still has some really good ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMD7IuEHjlc

>>526827406
Ehhh it's okay

Here's a real banger https://youtu.be/0hG-ab8qKDw?si=1mdIrYVC0uJSp4g2

>>526831220
Another one https://youtu.be/bnxEGvRZJ6g?si=wfYGp0RtG4MA8yzm

>>526848348

70+ hours into SW4, don't feel like getting every secret weapons and the chronicle mode is beyond boring. probably will get just 1 secret weapon for achievement and call it a day.
I spent the last few weeks finishing nier automata instead, that was pretty nice but I didn't have the patience getting every achievements so I just bought the rest. currently moving to DMC5.

>>526854068
>don't feel like getting every secret weapons and the chronicle mode is beyond boring.
Can't imagine doing either of these.
Getting secret weapons is tedious as fuck (and there's no way of knowing how to get them unless you look up a YouTube video), and I stopped Chronicle Mode after about 3 battle nodes. Which sucks, because I probably spent a good hour or so customizing my custom character.

Is the full game of DW: Origins much better than the demo? It's $45 on Newegg so I was thinking of buying it, but replaying the demo has me on the fence. The camera is pretty bad and I felt like it was hard to evade officer attacks in the middle of battle because I just can't see what they're doing past the foot soldiers.

A few other questions: how many soulslopian bosses are there? How long is the game?

>>526863806
I'd recommend turning off the camera reset when block is pressed and turning up the sensitivity, camera control is pretty important and the lock-on is fairly situational since it's not hard to direct your attacks. There's an option in the full game (I don't know if it's in the demo, I think it was added post-launch) to make it so yourself and enemy officers are outlined at all times in crowds, without it the enemy officers still get highlighted when they're attacking and you're the target. If your boss question is referring to Lu Bu, there really isn't much else like him. There's only one other proper boss in the game, 2 if you count the end of Cao Cao's route. My first route took around 40 hours, the subsequent routes won't be that long because the branches start from chapter 3. I played it on both console and PC, I had 106 hours by the time I 100%'d the first time and around 80 hours the second time.

>>526864859
Thanks for the info bro, I think I'll grab it, since it sounds like my hangups are mostly non-issues in the full game and there's a decent chunk of content.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/koeipubsale2025

>>526867113
What's the better pickup, NA Awakening for $45 or ROTK8 for $42?

>>526867692
For that price? None but if you have to choose awakening because it's getting an update... I don't know when

>>526864859
>There's only one other proper boss in the game, 2 if you count the end of Cao Cao's route.
YTR Zhang Jiao, Lu Bu all the time, and Huarong Path Guan Yu?

>>526875541
Yeah, I do consider Guan Yu to be a boss there because he is pretty different from normal, he just doesn't have the same separate boss stage as the first two

>>525907437
The ending cinematic in DW7 is cool though.

>>525920259
>Deng Ai got sick of his shit and just march straight to the capital of Shu through an alternative route.... and win instantly
I thought Shu fell because Jiang Wei gambled with a risky tactic?

>>526877404
IIRC, Jiang Wei dismantling Wei Yan's defences around Hanzhong (to lure in the Wei forces then deal more damage via counterattacks) was the gambit that failed because the invading Wei forces ignored the border cities to march for the Shu heartland, and Liu Shan didn't deploy reinforcements in time. However Jiang Wei did hold firm at Jiange until Deng Ai marched over the mountains to get around Jiange. But I could be completely misremembering this.

>>526877843
So was Jiang Wei being retarded? Or was it sensible, would you say?

>>526878714
Dismantling the Hanzhong defences and all that was overambitious, but Shu couldn't exactly turtle up against Wei. However, pissing away Shu's resources on his failed Northern Campaigns was retarded.

>>525918071
Even the novel itself accelerates rapidly after Wuzhang Plains

Now that river of time flowed for a bit, how was ROTK14? Its on sale now and I have yet to decide if I should buy it

>>526882484
Seems like the guy was in an unwinnable situation. I wonder what motivated him.

I love her. Too bad her game is apparently the worst Atelier game in the series somehow, if Steam reviews with 70+ hours are any indication. Hopefully the devs learn from their mistakes in this game and make the sequel better (because they'd have to be fools to throw this top-tier babe away because of one critical failure).

>>526812957
Koei doesn't seem to do DLC as much as they used to, there's a real chance they don't do anything for Origins and instead they just announce a Wuzhang sequel is in the works at some point this year.

>>526890407
I consider it a secret third gameplay style for ROTK along with 11 compared to the officer play quasi-sandbox RPG games and the ruler play ones that are just more streamlined officer play games. That style being territory control on one seamless map. As such it can be very hit or miss depending on what you're looking for from it.

I enjoyed the way that, while it has its usual ROTK stats and tactics where high tier officers can just delete troops for free, it places much more emphasis on proper positioning and pre-planning, and that also gives actual reasons to split your army up into smaller but more numerous units rather than a couple giant deathballs. You can genuinely outwit a far larger force by maneuvering around and cutting off their supply routes, the same can happen to you. There's real benefits to slowly conquering an area rather than rushing right to a siege unless you have a clear advantage. It has some of the ROTK 11 logistics autism where you have to manually be moving troops, gold, food, etc. around your cities, though not as severe and you can automate some of it as your kingdom grows.

I think it's good for what it is, I'd consider it underrated all things considered but definitely go into it knowing it's not another ROTK where you get intimate with raising officer stats and relations.

cao cao has the most tiniest dick

>>526878714
it was a gamble. and a pretty shit one at that considering even if they won they would at most get luo yang+western provinces and they would still be at huge disadvantage in every metrics. but who knows maybe this lets Shu survive long enough until Sima retards blow up on their own

Shu's best shot would have been Zhuge Liang surviving another 10-20 years and being ready and willing to lead another northern campaign coordinated with Wu in the wake of Cao Rui's death in 239. That was their last chance to strike a destabilizing blow to Wei to upset the power balance.

Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends and Berserk are both are both on discount which one is better ?

>>526906801
DW8XL no contest, even if you're a Berserk fan. Berserk musou is not good

>>526867692
ROTK8R sucks. It if way too different from the original game that I'd say it's not a Remake at all, and the changes make the game a lot easier to break and become a snoozefest. Awakening is my second favorite Nobunaga game after Iron Triangle because the AI is pretty aggressive there and there isn't as much micromanagement compared to previous titles.

>>526890407
It's a weird mix of IX and XI and could be enjoyable if you enjoy the combat in those 2 games. It's worse offenders are that its development phase reaaaaaaally drag and boring, and a lot of its contents are hold hostage by DLCs.

I still find it hilarious that the origins "bonding" dialogue ended up the way it did because Sho simply wasn't paying attention to what the writers were doing and some fujo seen her chance, swung for the rafters and lived out her dream.

>>526882484
We still don't even know how much Shu actually lost in the northern campaign so it's tough to make a judgement on it.

>>526906210
There is no reality where Wu ends up not being total jobbers offensively

>>526924346
Zhuge Liang didn’t want to write down that his campaigns lost 14 million billion zillion trillion squillion men all to maintain the same territory lines

>>526924346
We do know they took significant enough a toll that Jiang Wei had to record an apology memorial and request demotion to appease the populace, so there's that.

Origins is 23% off on the Steam sale right now, don't know why such a specific number. East Asia is carrying the game again as it's currently in the top 25 sellers for Japan/China/Hong Kong/South Korea and #36 in the global top sellers

When origins released and sold a million, I thought to myself I bet this will have legs and do well in future sales due to the good reception. The AAA pricing for a DW game would've put off some people at launch, but its a game more people will pick up during price drops. That does seem to be playing out.

Even if you don't like Ziluan, you gotta be happy that origins has pretty much secured the future of the franchise for years to come.

>>526938740
meant for >>526936637

>>526899903
>>526917245
Thanks

>>526919853
Imagine if they had access during SW origins

>>526936637
It was cheaper on Newegg for me, but I don't know if that's globally.

Not today

sovl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyuCGgfRzrA

>>526938740
I'm happy for that, sure, but seeing it sell well and also seeing KT not doing anything in terms of post-launch content expansions makes me sad at the same time.
For most other companies, sales is a guarantee that you'll get extra content, even if they didn't plan for extra content at first. Not for KT.

I wish Ubume core had a better attack in Nioh 2

>>526994339
You need to use it either on a cornered enemy or on an enemy that is doing some kind of an animation that keeps it immobile for a few seconds.
There are a lot of bosses that basically stand still for a while during their Dark Realm transition animation. That's a perfect opportunity to lower a big chunk of their max ki bar.
See: the end of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ws8RGDXw5U

>saw awakening randomly got an update and a new "decisive battle feature"
>if you and the other clan are large enough a retainer will suggest the decisive battle, if you accept you get a 6th month truce period where the two clans build up and prepare
>both clans gets to choose the castle they'll siege as a prelude, if the attacker wins then send reinforcements to the main battle
>the decisive battle is 12v12, if the sieges are won it goes up to 16v16
>win the battle and you instantly absorb the entire clan and all their officers.
I really like this, lets you make your own sekigahara and massively speeds up the late game. you also don't actually have to march anywhere so you even castles on the other side of japan can participate.

>heike crabs
OH SHIT

>>526998887
Nioh 2, right? Those crabs are one of the most useful soul cores in the game. High water damage/status build up, and you're immune from enemy grabs during the entire duration.

>>527000569
Yeah, I’m more into the fact that I get to fight among the Taira and Minamoto. Although I do wish they hadn’t thrown you in this late into the Genpei, makes you wish for an entire game of this stuff.

So now that Final Fantasy 16 (a game that nobody thought would come to Xbox) has come to Xbox, what are the odds that Koei Tecmo will put the Nioh games on Xbox? Or Rise of the Ronin? Or the Dynasty/Samurai Warriors games that aren't on Xbox?

>>527006681
Maybe Nioh has a chance. But I don't think there was anything ever stopping SW4 for example from releasing on Xbox, pretty sure they just thought it wouldn't be worth it, so I doubt that'll come. In fact, not a single musou made it on to Xbox's backwards compatibility, which was pretty disappointing.

>>527007146
>Xbox's backwards compatibility,
It's so weird that they basically stopped with that program.
There are still so many games on Xbox Classic/Xbox 360 that I would love to have playable on Xbox Series S/X through backwards compatibility, like Tenchu Z or Spikeout: Battle Street.

>>527006681
If they're gonna do Nioh for the Xdrones, it's gotta be now because Nioh 3 is next year. That is, if they actually have any plans to release Nioh 3 on the Xbone.

>>527007372
I was hoping this would make it. Slowdown made it unplayable on emulator last time I tried. Point is, there were a ton of games they could've kept it going with.

>>527008980
Never even heard about this game till this day. Looks cool though judging by the bits I watched from this longplay here and there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_jY0CHGeXY

Considering that Xbox emulation doesn't look like it's going to reach perfection anytime soon, I think I might as well buy a jailbreaked Xbox 360 so that I can actually keep playing these Xbox/360 games that won't come to Series S/X.

>>527010985
I don't remember where I found out about it but yeah it looks really cool, almost reminds me of PSO. Funnily enough they also made a Crimson Sea 2 but it was PS2 exclusive while the first was Xbox exclusive.

If there is one Gundam warriors game to play, which one would you recommend as the best?

>>527017064
i play the second
It's fun but why the fuck would they think unlocking characters by grinding fucking friendship points was a good idea.

>>527008980
Play the PS2 version

>>527023064
That's a sequel, I'll probably just play it anyways though

Did KT whore out Zhuhe to GF?

>>527029667
Glad to see I wasn't the only one getting Omega Force vibe from the trailer

>replaying the post Dan-no-ura stage
>Sato Tsugunobu benevolent grave who famously takes a shot for Yoshitsune
>bloody grave of a fan holding revenant
>cause of death, shot down by Nasu no Yoichi
HOLY FUCKING SOVL

>>526990789
It feels like we've been sliding backwards in time since the 2000s ended

the interim…

>the tale of the Taira mission
it’s not fair bros

anything interesting happening in the origins modding scene? Don't care about model swaps or whatever, but anything gameplay related? Adding more troops, editing starting morale/courage etc

>>525898754
channel already gone

>>525918071
it's just that almost all the cool people are dead at that point and it's just depressing after

>>525920259
>>Jiang Wei launched multiples attacks against Wei for 30 years straight and jobbed every single time
>>526882484
>pissing away Shu's resources on his failed Northern Campaigns was retarded
>>526890939
>I wonder what motivated him
the real historical answer is that these northern campaigns force the various classes (native nobles, Liu Bei's people and others) to unite against one common enemy; otherwise they'd fall apart from infighting
it's why zhuge liang did it, and why jiang wei followed suit

>>526097125
>I was talking about Han Dang. He looks like every mid-life crisis Asian uncle ever
for some reason koei ran out of character tropes and decided that was it

>>526899903
>>526917245
I bought it with the first DLC, and I must say Im having fun with plots and fake reports, its like I can do things like in Ravages of Time

boompaloompa

Is origins likely to fall any further in sale price or are the devs as jewish as activision was with the cod's where they barely ever got reduced in price? Secondly, is there likely to be a dlc released for it so I should wait to buy them as a package or is there no dlc announced?

>>527083212
no mention of DLC. We have no idea if they're gonna release or or move straight onto Origins Part 2.

If you enjoyed the demo, then just pick up origins now while its on sale.

>>527083212
KT usually never goes to 70-80% sale range but it's already hit 20% a few months after release

>>527083212
KT is a jew, the first Ryza just this year get lower than 50% and that's a 2019 game.

>>527083212
I'm still waiting for Warriors Orochi 3 to drop below -50% discount so no.

>>527083212
>Is origins likely to fall any further in sale price or are the devs as jewish as activision was with the cod's where they barely ever got reduced in price?
Unlikely, It's something of an old JP suits thing. You'd see it in Squeenix too. They don't like doing big sales even for stuff that's doing really poorly and need the boost.
>Secondly, is there likely to be a dlc released for it so I should wait to buy them as a package or is there no dlc announced?
Nothing on that front.

On that note and something of a rant/peeve, Origins should be fine but beware of games using another corp's IP. Not sure whether it's KT's fault or not but it tends to get abandoned after a while and never get any more discounts. Been waiting for Arslan and DQH1/2 for a while and it's practically dead for discounts.

Bros why is Yorimitsu a broette

>>527121635
KT been consuming too many Fate works when doing the DLC.

>>527083212
jap games don't go on big sales

>>527130040
Not quite, Capcum and Sega like to do big sale for games that are at least a year old, Bamco sometimes too. KT and SE are just particularly jewish.

>>526890939
Zhuge Liang's strategic assessment was that the power gap was only going to get wider with time and as such for the weaker state like Shu aggressive military policy was the only way to try and turn things around before it grows completely unsurmountable. Which Jiang Wei largely followed, if with more propensity for gambling that had a habit of turning victory into defeat.

>SW4DX, SW4-II and SW4:SOS all look the exact same graphically and were released around the same timeframe
>yet SW4DX is the only run that runs well on my GTX 1060 6GB

How? The ongoing Steam sale convinced me to give SW4-II a try, and for some reason every time I kill an officer that's part of the objective and get that stylish slowdown, the slowdown is WAYYYYYYY slower than the one I get for SW4.
I just looked up on YouTube and the stylish slowdown that people get for the same mission I was running (the first Naomasa story mission) was way shorter and definitely not a performance issue.
So what the fuck?
I also got random moments of the game's framerate slowing down to a crawl every now and then.

>>527135254
SW4DX is the most recent PC release of the 3. Most likely they learned how to optimize.

>>527132637
Yeah, Shu attacking Wei was a sound idea, Jiang Wei just apparently wasted more resources doing so than Zhuge Liang for various reasons.

>>527130912
>Capcum
>japanese

>>527130912
SE sucks but they're not as bad as KT in that regard. And I'm not sure KT has ever even dropped the base price of one of their games.

>>527154728
On a macro level it's a Japanese vs. western publisher thing. JP publishers are much more averse to price drops and deep sales unless a product is a known evergreen property. Capcom is a good example in that they resemble western AAA a lot and games like Resident Evil have very long sale tails, so they're fine with dropping the price more often. Western pubs on the other hand have run into an issue where they lower prices so often and so fast after release that gamers are conditioned to wait for sales now. Ubisoft has seriously suffered from fostering this mentality

>>527158732
Yeah I don't really play Capcom games now but I certainly wouldn't buy one full price considering how often they go on sale

>>527132637
Wei was too entrenched at that time as a legitimate successor in the north. Also Shu needed Wu to pull their own weight, also also, Wei had an all star defensive roster at the time.

If I was in charge of Shu, Wei would've been toast.

If I was Lu Bu's strategist, we'd still be living the dream in Xiaopei to this day

If I was in the three kingdoms period, I'd fuck up Lu Bu.

If I was Chinese, I'd be perpetually angry except for when I'm gambling all of my money away at the casino.

If I was Liu Bei strategist he propably would die during yellow scarf rebelion, Im not very smart

Finally bought Origins.
1) What's the point of naming your character if your name is on your sash, and Cao Cao is going to call you Ziluan about two hours in anyway?
2) Why is the auto save so bloody slow?
Otherwise having a blast, even if I can't parry for shit.

>>527202473
The protagonist is blatantly the director's very thinly veiled OC donut steel self-insert character

If I were in the three kingdoms I’d probably unintentionally kill everyone by giving them 21st century common cold germs

>>527213082
>Anon's Musou attack is just a giant sneeze without covering his nose

If I was Yuan Shu's top guy. The Zhong Dynasty would still exist to this day.

If I were in the three kingdoms period, I'd eat my boss's sweets and claim he ordered me to right to his seething piss-drinking manlet face

my romance of the three kingdom stats... 99 wisdom... 27 charisma... 34 strength... i was born in the wrong time...

soaking in the hot spring in the forest with Tate Eboshi…

If I were in the Three Kingdoms period, I'd be one of the guards that runs in and drags out whoever my lord orders be executed

If I was isekai'd to the Three Kingdoms era, I'd do everything I can to make Lianshi my wife.

If I were in the Three Kingdoms period, I'd go BAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>527247108
Does she have the biggest tits in DW? Her DW7 outfit is a treat.

>>527255575
I'm pretty sure she does. They're almost as big as her head.

I would look for Lingqi and make her my wife.

>>527256775
She's Yuan Shu's son's wife; Zhong property.

does the shu hypothetical route in origins actually change ANYTHING gameplay wise on the final 2 battles? wu & wei routes make characters appear, but I didn't notice anything different with shu true ending route

I have no idea what kind of build you're supposed to make with Zhao Yun in Warriors Abyss.
You get bonus damage from Shu emblems, but Shu emblems are generally wind, which conflicts with Zhao Yun's passive benefits from shock status.

>>527265565
You only need them to be in your reserve party to gain the 5% bonus.
No problem here

>>527260261
No

>>527083212
no

>>527268205
Maybe I'm retarded and can't see what's obvious to you and other people with more experience in the game, but it seems to me that this means Zhao Yun needs to spread himself thin.
Compare him with someone like Zhou Yu. He benefits from fire damage boosting his musou and needs Wu emblems, and most Wu character happen to to give you fire, so with Zhou Yu his build is very straightforward.
Can you give me a suggestion on how to build Zhao Yun?

>>527242851
I'd be one of those generic lieutenants that shows up serving under multiple unrelated lords to save budget

>>527285321
I'm more focused on what emblems they provide instead of build. Even on traversal level 5 the game isn't hard enough to necessitate micromanaging everything.

DW4's progression is confusing to me. Clearly the idea is that you should swap around characters for variety's sake, as sticking to only one character you'll max out their weapon like halfway through a musou mode, but since there's no level scaling you have to go back into Free Mode to level those characters up, replaying the same stages you're guaranteed to have done before. If you want actual new stages, the secret stage requirements are basically to play badly on purpose.

bros was I the first samurai

>>527323587
You're the first Shogun. Have you played FSR? You're basically Yamato Takeru, complete with your own Amenomurakumo and all.

Tenji

>>527311924
>If you want actual new stages
Ah yes, whack a crate. The pinnacle of Warrriors gameplay
>Have you found it yet?

For me, it's Perfect Guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZnlc8LmxI

>>527341896
I don't think I've ever cleared that stage by getting all the crates. I can never find the last few and just wait for the game to tell you where the seal is out of pity when there's barely any time left.

Tate Eboshi sexo maximumo

Yuan Shu was the only man to have the balls to clearly state his intentions. That alone makes him the true winner of the Three Kingdoms.

>>527365507
It doesn’t work out so good when I clearly state my intention to have sex with the girl at the bar that I’m talking to after drinking 10,000 beers who I just met

>>527352071
For me, it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyshlKAUkmg

DAMN, women dressed like THAT in Sengoku-era Japan?

>>527381506
AWOOGA

>>527381506
SW4 peeps honestly look closer to the Basara guys than SW1-3 people.

>>527388407
I absolutely hate Yukimura's default look in SW4. It looks like some super sentai outfit, especially with that collar.
A lot of people shit on SW3, but it's got the best blend of grounded and stylish Yukimura in the series.

>>527390257
>his default look
he’s a 10 year old

>game tells me I need to do a multi-musou kill on a specific officer for a specific objective
>get the officer to low health
>get ready to do the multi-musou attack
>retarded allied NPC moves just far enough so that the FUCKING TINY ASS LITTLE TETHER for a multi-musou attack is gone so now I'm killing the officer with a regular musou attack

>>527398643
You're thinking of child Yukimura in Spirit of Sanada.
In SW4, Yukimura's default look is pic related.

>>527399718
These cowards should just go ahead and make him and Chacha an item with Hideyori being their secret lovechild

Hisahide is the protagonist of this episode? I don't want to play him. He looks like a fucking clown.

>>527381506
I hope so (time travel anon)

>>527408493
he’s great, sorry

>>527408493
I forgive you

>>527408493
That’s the best scenario though

>>527390257
Yeah, a lot of SW4's outfits have too much contemporary components which I personally don't like, like Date's coat acting as a cape, for example. I prefer SW2's and SW3's (from what I've seen, as I haven't played it) style. I haven't played SW5, but it looks like they went back to a more grounded style.

>>527408493
kek

>>527399307
>game tells me I need to do a multi-musou kill on a specific officer for a specific objective
playing SW seems like masochism sometimes

For Dynasty Warriors Origins Chapter 3, is it worthwhile filling the contribution gauge for all three factions before going to the village, or just for the one faction I'm planning to join? I'm guessing the village acts as a point of no return.

>>527456594
If you want to do the extra battles/grinding you can, but it's not necessary. It'll tell you if you're at a decision of no return, but it cuts down from 3 to 2 and then 1 if you're not straight lining into 1 of them immediately

>>527456594
Depends on who you're siding with. If you're choosing Liu Bei then you really only need to do his. If you're choosing Cao Cao or Sun Jian, they never conflict in that chapter so you can do everything with both of them, choose one, and then reset at the start of chapter 4 when you go back to do the other

Looks like Warriors Abyss is getting a future balance patch (no date given) that addresses the characters the fanbase perceives to be the weakest in the game.
https://x.com/musou_abyss/status/1933449279286489295

>>527482803
>Honda Tadakatsu at 4
>Yumia at 7
>both of them are higher than fucking Goemon
Granted, it is a list of people who you want to get buffed, but still I found that to be kinda hilarious

>>527483137
One possible explanation for that is that Goemon is such an ugly character that not enough people have played him to know that he needs buffs.

>>527483584
Ah, the Sengoku Basara X conundrum.

>Trieu Thi Trinh was a 9-foot-tall (2.7 m) woman who had 3-foot-long (0.91 m) breasts. She also had a voice which sounded like a temple bell, and she could eat many rice pecks and walk 500 leagues per day. Moreover, Trinh had a beauty that could shake any man's soul.
>On the other hand, the Vietnamese remembered Lady Trieu's uprising as the most important event of the time. Her leadership appealed to strong popular instincts. The traditional image of her as a remarkable yet human leader, throwing her yard-long breasts over her shoulders when going into battle astride an elephant, has been handed down from generation to generation. After Lady Trieu's death, her spirit was worshipped by the Vietnamese.
wtf I hate Wu now

>>527311924
I always just stuck to one character every time I started a musou mode in 4. The secret stage requirements are pretty annoying though. I like the idea but the execution isn't great

Where. Is. Kessen. 4?

>>527381506
The shitty makeshift family dynamic Koshosho, Motochika, and Gracia had going on in SW4 was cute.

>>527507797
I haven't played it but people were saying Bladestorm was a spiritual successor to Kessen at the time

surprised there's no pnach codes/mods for the PS2 DW games to enable allies being able to defeat the enemy commander. Given how many other gameplay altering mods there are, I would've thought thats something they could find a toggle for.

Am I just shit at the game, or are most of the charged attacks that many weapons have in DWO very situational/useless against enemy officers because they'll just super armour their way through whatever you've charged up? I find myself defaulting back to the sword for story stages to play the standard dodge/parry then punish game.

>>527515832
You're supposed to hit them after they finish their attack/you parry them/you stagger them with a battle art. That's when the shield bar changes color and you'll notice that when you hit them the shields start breaking and they'll be staggered with each hit. Depleting the bar lets you do the cool execution move.
Try to experience and come up with combos for each weapon to deplete that bar as fast as you can. That's how you play.

>>527482803
Yuan shaobros.. after all this time we're finally here

>>527507797
>Kessen 1 is about sekigahara
>
>Kessen 3 is about our boy Nobu
That mean that Kessen 4 is going to be about Hideyoshi

>>527482803
>Lu bu and her daughter needs more buff
Agree

>>527512610
Bladestorm's like an evolution of Kessen 3 being more of an army action game than strategy, it's all about leading squads around with rock-paper-scissors mechanics

>>527534082
So like Brutal Legend?

>the dw5 empires
>2 officers set to follow me
>im clearing everything, they're barely taking any damage
>approach at the enemy main base
>both of the officers set to follow me say "the troops appear tired, let us rest" and back off to one of our bases
>exact same thing happens again next time they head towarss the enemy main camp

Is this some artificial difficulty bullshit just to fuck with the player? I don't see any reason for them to be saying that

hehe

>>527544623
SIR, DONT PURSUE SIR

Bump

>>527247108
>>527256254
Now, let us enjoy this

>>527517503
Right, maybe I just need to learn the combos. I already have sword down pat because SSSSTT is ridiculously good, especially if I have Vortex Gem equipped and follow up with the air shockwave move when I have enough Bravery. That plus Power Shot even makes a mockery of Lu Bu as long as I don't fuck up parries.

>since a few days ago, my PS5 controller keep getting unresponsive randomly even though it isn't disconnected or anything because the earphone I plug into the controller is still usable at all time
Anyone know how to fix this? It's annoying as hell.

>>527581636
Get a better controller or use another earphone.

>>527512343
motorchomper and his retarded family

>>527544623
>you seeing this shit?

>>527568705
You'll start getting it as long as you get the launchers down, most of them are bound to either running/dodging + heavy or guarding + heavy, and some weapons have multiple

Is there a full list of all the Records of Sin rewards you can possibly get in Warriors Abyss?

Don't know why the game lists her difficulty as being 2/4 stars when she's one of the easiest characters in the game to use effectively with how much crowd control is built into everything she does.
This was my first run with her. No cumulative levels at all. I wanted to use her because I got her unique weapon in a previous run. And the results were surprisingly good.

Started playing Warriors Orochi 3 because my friend told me that was the best one with the most stuff in it, good value for money.
First off it is endlessly amusing to me the game does almost nothing to ground you in it, you've got like 200 characters and zero bios. That's fine I know how to use the KT wiki. I've played Nioh 1-2 and I'm roughly familiar with Dynasty Warriors/Three Kingdoms stuff.

But what I'm really asking about is whether there's a good gameplay guide out there, there are so many elements of the game thrown at you that I'm a bit lost. It was only after I got Ginchiyo that I realised I could even strafe instead of just running around. So does anyone know a good primer for how you're meant to play the game or should I just stop worrying and start doing combo chains? Ginchiyo's moveset is fun and I like lightning so I'm going with her for now.

Thanks
I also bought Bladestorm Nightmare so I can finally, finally, put it to bed after I had Bladestorm OG on the 360 and Bladestorm Nightmare on the ps4 without beating it either times.

>>527621984
I'm someone who has been playing WO3 almost nonstop for the past like 2 months now. Considering that you're coming at it after having played the Nioh games (like I did), here are some things you should know:

1. You can play any main story and DLC content on the hardest difficulty without needing some kind of overpowered setup. You can use an overpowered setup, or you can choose to play more a character action game approach to the content, just like with the Nioh games.

2. That said, you start off very weak, so I suggest you only play on Normal, at least until you get a team that each has 2 promotions, at which point you can switch to Hard. Once you have a team with 4 promotions per character, you can do Nightmare.

3. What are promotions? Basically, if you max out your character's level to LV100, you can use a promotion that resets their stats to LV1, but you get to continue to allocate stats that give them more overall stats in the long run. You can go up to 9 promotions, but in my experience it's complete overkill. Max out at just 4 so that you get a big movement speed buff when you reach your fourth promotion.

4. Know the difference between the character classes (Power, Technique, Speed and Wonder).
Power: You have hyper armor from regular enemy attacks.
Technique: My favorite. You can strafe dodge into a running attack, which is busted on so many characters. Later on, you can equip an item that allows you to cancel charge attacks into these strafe dodges.
Wonder: You can cancel attacks into this tackle animation at the cost of some of your gauge.
Speed: You get a double jump.

(Cont'd into the next post)

>>527621984
>>527623170
5. Familiarize yourself with the switch combo system. If you switch a character after a regular attack, you get the other characters running attack animation. If you switch a character after a charge attack (meaning: any triangle ender attack), you get moves that can launch and juggle opponents and gives you invincibility. Webm related. This will help immensely with crowd control and killing officers.

6. Your R1 attacks vary in power, but most of them have full invincibility frames throughout their entire duration and are useful for getting yourself out of trouble.

7. Your main focus should be clearing story missions. Then you should unlock the special gear. Then you can choose to do DLC missions or go into gauntlet mode, which is a whole 'nother can of worms, but it offers tons of unique equipment (like that strafe dodge cancel I mentioned earlier).

8. For your weapons, don't worry about getting perfect 5-star gear, because the game has an awesome gear system that strengthens underpowered 1-2 star weapons and makes them viable for endgame.

9. If you block an attack and then immediately press square, you can get a deflect animation that dizzies the enemy, opening them up for a combo or juggle. Very useful for crowd control, because your deflect affects other nearby enemies as well.

Here is a link to how you can get the special gear: https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Treasure_Guide

>>527621984
>>527623170
>>527623330

Also, a few other things I forgot:

1. Keep an eye on what your failure conditions are in the pause menu for each mission. Make sure to prevent enemy officers from swarming allied NPCs you need to keep alive.
2. Be sure to save at the start of missions so that if your allied NPC is retarded and gets himself killed, you can immediately restart from the start of the mission instead of the hub. Also, be sure to save before a mission boss officer, so that if you get instagibbed by his musou attack, you can resume from there. Until you get a feel for enemy patterns, you'll likely die to enemy musou attacks.
3. To prevent burnout, rotate between 2-3 different teams. Don't worry, on normal difficulty, you won't need optimization, even on the 8-9-10 star missions.
4. Pic related is the kind of gear properties you should have. Always go to the blacksmith after every run and fuse weapons to get your desired weapon properties to +10.

>>527623170
>>527623330
>>527623834
you are a credit to your ancestors anon and the very model of filial piety. I'll make sure to write all this down.

I'll need to review the controls because I don't even know how to block even though I was sure it's in the game since random jobber enemy officers block all the time.
I did try doing a hard mission and got my shit absolutely rocked so yeah I'm sticking with normal for now.
I do want to play around to find characters I like, for now Ginchiyo is the most fun. I'll try to stay on top of blacksmithing since that seems like something you want to incrementally keep progressing so you know what you're doing.

>>527621984
Oh, and if you're on PC, be sure to download the file that's in the description of this guy's video: It essentially gives you a permanent wider FOV, which is absolutely a boon for a game like this.
You can pick a custom cheat engine FOV, a permanent wide FOV (the one I used), or a permanent super wide FOV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQoitRa_D2w

>>527624590
thanks again, using the zoom out 1 and it's a lot easier to read what's happening during battles now.

>>527621984
>nioh
MONKEYED.com

>>527624205
oh yeah i remembered, last question:
Does it actually matter if I don't take the recommended party for a story mission? Can I just like take one of them along and then take characters I like using?

>>527623170
>>527623330
>>527623834
I'm not even planning to play WO3, but I appreciate the detailed guide.

>>527632840
>Does it actually matter if I don't take the recommended party for a story mission? Can I just like take one of them along and then take characters I like using?
There are some stages that net you special dialogues but otherwise you are free to play as whomever you feel like. Sometimes you can even get special dialogues by not playing as the recommended characters.

>>527641497
Oh, wait. I think there are a few stages where it is easier to play as a recommended character because you don't have to babysit them to certain destinations, Ueda Castle is the earliest example because if you don't get Sima Zhao to meet up with Wang Yuanji as soon as the battle started, morale drops like a rock and it is very easy to lose the battle.

Does anyone have a link to the soundtrack for Three Kingdoms, specifically this part at 1:58 right before Cao Cao laughs maniacally?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM2GKSsgDA0
That track is so hilarious every time it plays in the show.

>>527642689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVGOrsKzP5g&list=PLNFQQwvNQ1nZfqLKv54-dT1TNQm7GhDyK&index=28

>>527643064
Thank you.

Do we really need all those guides of how to play a musou? The only guide I ever needed is to know how to unlock characters in WO1 and 2

Is it time for multiple systems to make a Dynasty Warriors compilation of older games?

>>527648892
Yeah, I think a lot of people have been asking for the PS2 Remaster Collection for years now.

>>527649245
What games are those?

>>527648892
>>527653913
It's up to Koei to do that, but yeah they should. Look at it this way, the series has always been PS focused, but on ps4/5 the only games you can play (without using the streaming service) are DW8 and above. On steam, it's DW7 and above.

So basically for most gamers, dw2 - 6 can't be played unless you got an old console sitting around or emulate. They did make some PC ports of older games, but they're not easily found and some were kinda ass - that's why Origins was such a surprise when it ran really well on PC for the most people.

So yeah, Koei should really just do a bundle of 2 - 6/7, basic remastering for high resolution, more troops on screen, let you turn while attacking, maybe add camera movement support with right stick to 2 - 5 etc. Nothing major, just QoL stuff everyone would like and release it all in one pack for $20 - 30 or whatever. Put it out on Steam, PS5 & series X and it will secure the legacy games for a long time to come.

>>527649245
I'm a little worried they'll be extremely greedy about it since Sho did a poll last year asking what specific PS2 games fan would want remastered the most and DW5 won in a landslide.

This is the fastest T1 run I've done with a character that has zero cumulative levels. I was still able to do this despite the first boss' rewards being all so shit that I couldn't pick any of them and had to resort to the discard option.

I hate this so much. Why the fuck would you put them so far apart from each other? It's a big time waster. Whether the one you go to is the real one or the illusion is entirely an RNG dice roll. It's possible you get so unlucky that you end up killing all the illusions first.

Three Kingdom Dynasties in order of importance:
>Zhong
>Shu-Han
>Wei
>Wu
>Jin

>>527132637
>>527167930
Zhuge Ke came to the same conclusion in Wu and wrote a very eloquent public essay explaining it, but the entrenched local powers in Wu resented Zhuge Ke's offensive policy and had him assassinated.

A lot of it's just getting lucky in timing hough. Imagine if instead of losing popular support after a disastrous second campaign and getting assassinated in 253, Zhuge Ke had held off for just a year and instead mobilized to take advantage of the unrest surrounding the anti-Sima Shi groups in the Wei Court in 254.

>>527706834
I think he would have run afoul of the opposing political factions even without the shitty second campaign

>>527674309
I picked Sun Jian at random once and he also cleared everybody else's T1 record time with no hassle. He is so good in Abyss

>>527132637
>>527167930
>>527706834
IMO, both Shu and Wu were on an expiration timer when the whole kerfuffle around Guan Yu's death and Yiling happened.

Wufags will ride the high of Chibi forever and ask you to ignore their offensive record afterwards.

>>527718250
He's arguably the most straightforward character in the game.
5% extra damage per Wu emblem?
50% extra damage on burned enemies?
Just stack as many Wu emblems as possible. There's nothing else to it since most Wu characters are already fire-based.
Add in Honda and Yukimura for additional passives that immensely boost fire, and you have one hell of a powerhouse who is easy to pick up and get fast clears with.

And unlike someone else who benefits from building fire like Naomasa Ii, Sun Jian's moveset is actually compact and efficient. It's perfectly designed for melting bosses, compared to Naomasa's moveset being unwieldy due to how much his charge attacks move him around.

>>527721503
>Yuan Shao's biggest loss was due to a well timed fire attack
>Cao Cao's biggest loss was due to a well timed fire attack
>Liu Bei's biggest loss was due to a well timed fire attack

>Sun Quan's biggest loss was due to getting cock blocked by one man

Solid character. I just don't like how spastic her moveset is. Far too much just spinning and moving around during her stronger attack animations, making it unnecessarily tricky to melt down bosses with broken barriers (because you can find yourself accidentally hitting thin air). I don't want to have to wrestle with the character just to get them to do damage.

Ambition Mode in DW8 is fun. I'm surprised I enjoy it, considering that I bounced off of Chronicle Mode in SW4 really quickly. I'm guessing the faster pace of Ambition Mode makes it more enjoyable for me.

>>527706834
>Zhuge Ke came to the same conclusion in Wu and wrote a very eloquent public essay explaining it, but the entrenched local powers in Wu resented Zhuge Ke's offensive policy and had him assassinated
Is that because Wu were pacifists?

Why was Guan Yu's weapon called "Blue Dragon" in 3/4/5/6 when his legendary weapon was called Green Dragon?

>>527746052
Because Japanese

>>527746421
The Japanese don't have a word for green?

>>527746705
Most languages that borrowed words from Chinese share the same fate of not having a word for green until later

>>527746868
That's odd. Green and blue look very different.

>>527746938
Should've said specifically for green. It was same concept, just going off vibes or something. They just deduce from context even to this day sometimes. Same thing in my mother tongue.

>>527742760
I'm guessing the local nobility in both Shu and Wu figured that they were either safe from being invaded by Wei, or that they could suck up to the Wei army and keep their positions and riches under the new administration.

Has anyone here trying Nintendo switch Warriors game on the Nintendo switch 2 yet I have a few of them but I only tried one piece Warriors 3 and warriors orochi 4 and Dynasty Warriors 8 but I have quite a few other games for my switch one and have a switch to a two-man mistake so any of you guys have any experience with it?

>>527648892
I'm trying to decipher what you wrote through all of those run-on sentences. I'm assuming you want to know if framerates for musou games have been improved for the Switch 2? This guy has done tests.
I haven't watched the entire video, but I quickly checked out his showcase of DW8XL and it's definitely improved. Don't know if it's a rock-solid 60fps but it's definitely up there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-1KOPRrxg

>>527721503
I like Wu because Sun Jian & Ce were badasses, their army was filled with cool weirdos, and Sun Quan was amusingly senile.

>>527754232
HW:DE, Three Hopes, and PW4 all run at 60 FPS on Switch 2, AoC runs at 30 FPS locked now.

It's gay Omega Force doesn't explain their mechanics in detail. Like, what does raiding accomplish in DW8:E?

???

>>527772231
they started making 10 but it turned into origins for a proper reboot of the franchise

>Late Han game
>look inside
>Strategic Tang victory few hours in
bruh

>>527758889
>AoC runs at 30 FPS locked now.
This is so funny to read. It went from "completely unacceptable sub-30fps framerate" on the original Switch to "capable of staying at 30fps without any drops".
Maybe once we'll get the Switch 3, AOC can actually run at 60fps.
What the fuck did Omega Force do with this game? How the fuck can it run so poorly?

Thoughts on Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce? I was just curious to see what it was like and it seems to have a pretty solid combo game at the very least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jJ_AHqTi2c

>>526802197
NTA and tt has been years since I've played it.
But I remember one of Wu's conditions being a complete bitch because the layout was confusing and I couldn't figure out where I was suppose to actually go. Dynasty Warrior's map sucks for determining cifferences cliffs/heights/altitude or whatever. I have the same problem whenever I play 8E's Yellow Turban special battle and trying to figure out how to get to the peasants on the high cliff to save them.

Which is the best Empires from a fairness/simulation view point? DW8:E feels robust content wise, but the battle sim is sooo anti-player it kinda ruins it. Your allies can be way higher lvl than the enemy officers and they'll still get their asses kicked more often than not unless it's 3 allies vs 1 enemy. And the enemy officers will also completely ignore all ally officers & ally troops and 100% focus on the player if you're within a certain radius of them which is so immersion breaking.

I've been playing DW5:E and while it's not as robust, it feels a bit fairer in terms of ally officers vs enemy officers. It still has anti-player shit like always starting with less bases unless you use the equal start tactic, enemy officers focus on you etc, but it's not as bad as 8.

>>527796713
They're all like that. If they were actually fair then they would probably be too easy. I've played DW4-8E + SW2E. And they're just all like that. I think 6 and 8 were the worse in this regard though.
I am also hoping for Warriors Orochi Empires one day. Maybe even a sorta Gundam Empires. I have never watched the Gundam series (other then a little bit of Wing as a kid) I rented DWG2 on a whim and IMHO it's the best Musou ever made.

>>527797224
I don't agree it would be too easy if your allies didn't suck, that would only happen if they didn't make things more difficult in other ways. i.e they could make the actual fighting more dangerous to compensate for there being less babysitting.

>>527797858
>they could make the actual fighting more dangerous to compensate for there being less babysitting
Yeah, that's the main issue. Even in Empires, the devs design the game around the player being a one man or one woman army, especially in DW8E. At least with SW4E red morale zones can stop you from being too aggressive, while the player swap feature makes it easier to push on multiple fronts, but you have to actually build up bonds between your characters to enable that.

>>527749713
That was the prevailing thought near the end of Wu, wasn't it? Sun Hao had such a delusional belief in coexistence with Jin that he had no real response prepared for the invasion in 280.

>>527781242
Only 2 hours in and this game has one of the most insufferable writing I've seen in a video game in a while. Not sure if it's because of the translation or something.

>>527742760
No. Rich and powerful just don't want to pay taxes and conscription demands. Same shit was going on in Shu and Wei. On all sides they just want to chill and enjoy their riches. Doesn't matter to them who's Emperor or if there's one or three.

>>527815525
>Sun Hao had such a delusional belief in coexistence with Jin
No. Sun Hao was very, very pro-war with Jin, against the arguments of the regional powers who just wanted to enjoy their riches. That's partly why they hated Sun Hao so much, and why Sun Hao resorted to some pretty brutal methods to try to force them in line. Sun Hao's delusion was not coexistence with Jin but that he could conquer Jin through appeals to divine will and obsessive collection of positive omens.

Charging in alone for the sake of valor? I guess you wanna die!

>>527721503
If you actually bother to read the records in detail, Wu had a great offensive record. Jia Kui spent basically his entire career just building up defenses in Yuzhou in response.

>>527850553
Wu are beta. The land gains they achieved was from stealing from their friend, and in the most cowardly way possible, too. In fact, due to their treachery, it sealed both the fates of Shu and Wu.

>>527746052
Cyan is between green and blue and it can go either way.

>>527826882
I'm pretty confident it's machine-translated with how it keeps confusing pronouns. If you mean the way it's so wordy and overdramatic and such, that's just your usual chink autism.
Every random bandit being ready to throw a rant at you is so fucking funny though.

>>527785052
I enjoyed it, but be aware that enemy officers can give themselves hyper armour whenever they want. And unlike Origins, where they're at least vulnerable after finishing a combo or getting countered/parried, all you can do in Strikeforce is wait it out, use hit and run tactics, or (once you're far enough into the game) use your own hyper armour via a particular setup.
Zhao Yun with his spear is arguably the best character.

meng huo has the fattest dick

Liao Hua being a playable character would make for a sad story, I think.

>>527784878
Because it tries to include almost all of BOTWs physics/details without a significant graphical hit

I hope future DW games still have the sense to use DW9 skins as alt-skins or unlockable skins. For all of DW9's problems, character designs weren't among them. DW9 has some of the best looks for characters in the series.

>>527870110
I'm glad they included white in Lu Lingqi's outfit. Fits her aura better.

>>527870110
I don't like the vidya realistic chink faces

>>527868273
Would he be a voice of reason general compared to Jiang Wei?

>>527868273
>>527891853
This is from a game called twin Blades of the Three Kingdoms I managed to get the dude early but he wasn't a spot that I had to find him in a cave so I think if I didn't find him there I wouldn't have been able to include him. I haven't beaten the game yet but you play as a silent protagonist Xu Shu.

>mfw you need 5,000 gems to get your weapon to +10 extra strength in DW8XL (500 per +1 upgrade)
>not to mention you need an additional several hundred gems to fuse specific weapon properties to your weapon (like Velocity or Cyclone or whatever)
>and then you need to move to the tempering menu so that you can max out each weapon property to +10 without costing any precious gems
>but you still need to also grind weapon materials required for tempering
>both gems and weapon materials come from grinding Ambition Mode
>all of this is just for one (1) weapon
>the affinity system means that you're gonna need at least 3 weapons to go through this upgrade process so that you can have the perfect loadout for any situation
>all of this is just one one (1) character
>the game has 82 characters in total
Easily the worst part of Omega Force games is how excessively grindy they are. There is literally no reason why it has to require so much grinding just to finish equipping one character.

They need to add a fifth kingdom in DW10, as a joke

>was interested in trying out different secondary weapons for Lianshi in DW8
>saw that she had a 4/4 star compatibility with Meng Huo's "Gloves" class weapon
>wanted to have her beating the shit out of enemies with her fists
>equip it
>use it on a casual mission run
>realize that as soon as she begins running, Omega Force basically copy and pasted Meng Huo's gorilla running animation
>as a result, Lianshi runs the exact same way Meng Huo does when she equips the Gloves

It's every bit as janky as I'm describing it. It's even worse if you equip Lianshi with Guan Yu's Crescent Blade class weapon. She has this incredibly broken running animation that was carelessly copy and pasted from Guan Yu's running animation.

So aside from Omega Force and Falcom, what other major game devs make big use of power metal in their soundtracks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMLb5IGBGrw

Of all the recurring downfalls of empires, it seems like a string of child emperors in short succession is the most fatal.

>>527666674
I'd hope they don't give it a graphical overhaul and use that as an excuse to charge more for it. The Fatal Frame 4 remaster really hurt the original style and NG2 Black is one of the ugliest pieces of shit I've ever played

resurrect

>>527932515
Makes sense. Children are really stupid.

Dynasty Warriors 10 better not be shit. Hopefully they don't force that fag on you again. I wanna play as a manly badass like Xu Huang, Guan Yu, Gan Ning, or Lu Bu. Not some queer. Though, the option should be there.

>>527932515
you need to firmly establish your heir and successor while still alive, Ieyasu had the right idea, Samboshi and Hideyori were too young to have any sort of established loyalty and pull when their pops went

Is Shu green because Guan Yu was said to have green robes?

>>527979404
Ieyasu taking over from the Toyotomi was a good thing. The Toyotomi were clearly incompetent, and came from peasant roots. The Toyotomi weren't even shoguns.

>>527897263
>When people complained about Origins lack of content compared to previous games when most of that was shit like this.

Does the game tell you any of this? Nope. You gotta figure it out for yourself. Either get stuck for hours and hours trying to grind the wrong way to max out your equipped skills, or go online and look up forums to see how to actually do it the right way. Classic Japanese time-wasting game design.

>>527995169
I'm honestly tempted to boot up a trainer that can get my characters to LV150 and give me infinite resources so that I can have characters properly geared and leveled to deal with Ultimate difficulty. Because needing to grind Ambition Mode or using any of the other mind-numbing "speedfarming" strats (like abusing pic related) is just going to burn me out of the game.
Again, Omega Force games don't need to be this grindy. DW8XL has:
>82 characters
>70 main story missions that'll take you a full triple-A game's worth of time to unlock and do all the hypotheticals/stars for
>extra DLC missions
>a ranked Free Mode that'll require even more time to get all A-ranks on
>Ambition and Challenge modes
>secret weapon unlocks
Even if DW8XL had zero grinding for character levels, skills and materials, you'd still easily have a game that takes 100-150 hours to go through. Why is that bad? Why do these games have to be 500 to 1,000 hours long because of grinding?

>>527995792
This is why I only ever focused on a small number of characters I actually liked in any given Musou game. No point maxing out a bunch of jobbers that I'm never going to touch again after unlocking their rare weapons.

I what her.

Early game was miserable.
The procedural generation was constantly trolling me with missions that required me to kill boss clones. It sped up significantly in worlds 3 and 4 after I finally got my build going (and I got Honda and Yukimura too for boosting that fire damage).
The game gave me one last trolling session by only giving me a King's Cauldron on the penultimate floor before the Lu Bu clone boss.
I wasn't even able to clean up shop because I had so many Tears of Blood at that point that I still had so much leftover after buying all the officers and a butterfly formation to boost my fire damage.
Here's something for a future patch that should be implemented: Any leftover Tears of Blood should be converted into EXP points for the player to speed up the cumulative leveling process.

>>527995792
Hyrule Warriors 1 is by far the biggest culprit of this, and I call it out precisely because it always gets praise for having like 800 hours of "content". The majority of that is only if you want to 100% absolutely every little thing in the game, and the majority of that is going to be literally hundreds of playthroughs of Hyrule Field with the slightest changes.

Tenji???

WHY IS LIU BEI SO FUCKING USELESS? He keeps dying during Escape from Xiaopei when I'm right fucking next to him.

>>528031378
Liu Bei is useless.jpg

OK, so people weren't kidding when they said that Mature Yukimura is the strongest character in the game.
What I didn't know was just how easy he is to use.
Every other character in the game needs to get 8 skill emblems to give themselves their strongest moves and to actually have an expansive moveset.
Mature Yukimura already has his strongest moves by default. They have insane range. And they do a shit ton of fire damage even from the very start of your run. So he builds musou insanely quickly. He doesn't even need his hyper attacks, since his standard>charge attacks from C2 to C5 are all insanely powerful.
I probably could have gotten this run in like 35 minutes if I didn't leave the game to idle while I answered a phone call. That's how good this character is.

>>528052059
Chacha’s lover is so handsome

>>528060372
He was also pretty damn handsome in Nioh 1.

>>528038717
>>528044456
I figured out what I was doing wrong. After meeting up with Liu Bei, I went over to help out Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, and Liu Bei was getting wrecked by all the high courage officers because he only had Xiahou Yuan with him. It turns out I was supposed to babysit Liu Bei until he reached the escape point, THEN assist the other oath bros (who probably could've gotten through on their own). At least I've got Xiapi to look forward to next.

>>528064257
Doesn't he also live?

>>528052059
Just checking, Mature Yukimura is the older Yukimura from the tail end of Spirit of Sanada, right? That moveset was nuts, you could practically walk into red zones and throw enemies around like you owned the place.

>>527979404
There are two major downsides of this: (1) your designated successor immediately gets a target painted on his back as soon as he is declared, and (2) your designated successor immediately becomes a rallying point for everyone opposed to you

Some teases for the next Warriors Abyss update. Vigor emblem is getting buffed
https://twitter.com/musou_abyss/status/1935623596858077451

hanbei is a fag

>>526117432
Absolute kino.
It takes after the Romance rather than historical record, so much fun. And fish guts

>>526728672
He is. There's a reason even japanese Admiral Togo believe Yi Sun sin has no equal.

>>528088058
Yes
>>528087307
He decides to die with Chacha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h75p5-CSGs

best way to get into the franchise in current year? (preferably with cloud saves on steam?)
i played SW2 and DW8 back in the day

>>528119952
Just play Origins

>>528099719
I really hope they eventually add Lianshi. There is an empty space here in the Wu section of the character select screen that's missing Lianshi's dazzling face and goddess-like smile.

>>528120529
Was Origins a reboot or a different timeline?

>>528119952
I played the SHIT out of SW2 when I was a kid

>>528123374
I mean, all the games are different timelines because they retell the same events in slightly different ways.

>>528123374
Not a reboot since they still plan to make numbered games afaik, but more of a spinoff going deeper into the events of the story, not just the major battles. Also you're a shadow actor of history self insert

I just miss Lingqi.

>>528124042
She's a horrible, nasty cunt.

>>528014556
It's why I'll always toot Fate/Extella Link's horn, because it's impressive how much the game got right despite being only the developer's second attempt at making a musou game (they addressed and fix nearly every single gameplay complaint players had about the first Fate/Extalla game).
In terms of the subject of "grinding", the game also did it way better than Omega Force.
I was able to get all of the following done within about 40 hours:
1. All characters fully leveled up to LV150 (and I still have tons of spare QP to level up an additional like 20 extra servants if a miracle happened and the devs added another 20 servants in 2025)
2. All Install Skills unlocked (and I have enough dupes to basically make any loadout I want for my characters)
3. All Mystic Codes unlocked
4. All Servant bonds maxed out
5. All Story Mode and Extra Mode missions cleared on Normal and Very Hard difficulties
6. All Story Mode missions on Very Hard and Extra Mode missions cleared with EX Rank (the highest mission ranking)

The best part is that none of this actually felt like grinding.
I played through the Story Mode missions on Normal, then I went straight to chasing EX Ranks on Very Hard difficulty. In the process, I got metric tons of QP and Install Skills, as well as materials to craft Mystic Codes. By the time I reached about the 40 hour mark, I got all of the aforementioned things done.
I never had to farm for anything (meaning: undergo some tedious and efficient and repetitive ritual to quickly accumulate materials or experience) the way I always have to in Omega Force games.

A shame that it most likely sold like shit and probably led to the developers scrapping any post-launch plans. Because if you look at the Servant Barracks, you'll notice there are empty dorm rooms that very clearly were meant to be used for post-launch DLC characters.

>>528126327
>and fix
Meant to write "and fixed"

my blood pressure is rising.

>>528114206
Don’t talk about my number one strategist like that

If (you) are given the chance to throw ideas for Origins 2, what would /eagg/ gives?

>>528140769
How about we let OC centric story lie in collabs and spinoffs like Samurai Remnant and actually let us play as the classic DW characters again?

>>528140769
Samurai Warriors origins, no mythical OC donut, just a wandering customizable ronin, voiced obv

>>528141415
I don't know why the companion selection is so limited when most of the non playable uniques are using the same weapons anyway. At least make it a Free Mode only thing, I don't think it's going to destroy game balance if I bring along Cao Cao or Sun Ce as a companion if you're already letting me bring Lu Bu.

>>528140769
Obviously, a return to having fully playable named officers, not just as companions.

>>528140769

STORY & FEATURES
>add a robust Character Creator instead of playing as ziluan
>either completely write-off the Guardians of Peace shit, or if it must be continued, have Ziluan appear as an NPC who either fights you because he had became jaded with age or fights you as a "passing of the torch" test to see if your worthy
>add a proper free mode menu
>let us play as companions for the full stage in free mode
>less gushy bond scenes

BATTLE SIM
>stop fucking making the ally army tiny and sucky
>slow down the overall battlefield a bit, there's zero time to breathe and take it all in because you're forced to race from A to B constantly to save some crying ally
>less "gimmick" events, like the yellow turban pot shit that needs destroyed but only the player can deal with
>bring back lieutenants fighting under officers
>bring back finite troops under each officer
>bring back the random factor for individual officer starting morale, i.e "courage" in Origins
>update "courage" to make it less static - It should dynamically rise and fall just like individual morale did in the old games, i.e the player & officers KOing a certain number of troops should boost courage, losing troops drops courage, defeating officers can boost courage, losing a lieutenant can make the lead officer lose courage etc. In origins courage is actually very static, with only scripted events making permanent changes, like reinforcements arriving or large force charges triggering. The player can make temporary changes via critical success bodyguard tactics or by using rage mode, however these are circumstantial and very short buffs/debuffs that are gone within a minute.

Actually I think Sho should just hire me, I'll make them more monies

>>527986023
Hidenaga was the politically clever one, once he died + Hideyoshi having no strong heirs, the Toyotomi were finished. Always expected him to get into SW some day.

i boughts Abyss since i wanted to play Yumia (havent played her game yet) and now im hooked, already bought SW5, planning for WO4 (i did some research and those seems accessible to me, as a console fag). not sure on which DW to pick yet, Origins or rummage around on used DW8

>>528140769
Somehow... Ziluan died

>>528140769
After Wu Zhang Plaims it's revealed that the MC actually Shi Huangdi in disguise, plotting to take over China. The game then becomes Warriors Orochi Origins.

>>528156076
>bring back finite troops under each officer
It's therapeutic removing the red from the map that way. Each soldier being a dedicated spawn makes it more enjoyable, for some reason.

>>528166198
If he was so clever, how come he died?

>>528171453
The Toyotomi clan naturally yields to big Tokugawa cock, it was simply his time.

>>528171453
Silly anon, you can't outclever death.

Serious question what Warriors games are we likely to have in the future and what not announced yet Warriors or not yet announced for its games are likely to get on the Nintendo switch 2?

>>528177940
Origins 2 will happen in a few years I guess
New One Piece game at some point, that will be on Switch 2 for sure

>>528177940
for the main series, in this order:-
>Origins part 2 > Origins: Empires > DW 10 or whatever they call the next big roster game

>>528178530
>DW 10 or whatever they call the next big roster game
So they actually haven't given up on making bigger and bigger new additional characters games will you play as a new historical figures?

>>528179060
in a recent interview show talked about being able to use the new combined character roster of origins + origins pt 2 in future "simulation" games, which I assume he means Empires. So Origins: Empires will probably be the first modern mainline game that will have a large replayable roster, even if there's shared weapons again.

So if they do it for empires, It's predictable that they will also be able to use the roster in a traditional DW10 or whatever they call it, since their new character assets will be all there and done ready to be reused.

Holy fuck, Red Cliff really was some kino-ass shit. Gonna watch part 2 tomorrow. In the meanwhile, I'm gonna slowly dump some of my favorite parts.

Team Wu for life

>>528183685
Wu?
More like POO!

>>528184478
YIKES! Filthy Wei hands typed this.

Why can't Xiaoqiao in Dynasty Warriors look like this? Goddamn this woman is beautiful.

Something about the way John Woo directs shots is just so smooth and layered.

>>528189242
How is the Goose Formation outdated?

>>528192729
Geese can't hold a weapon.

I what Rome Warriors.

>>528183115
It's long, get comfy

To this day nobody has found proof that Jing province ever existed

>>528183685
Look at big boy over hear

>>528236009
here*

Skill emblem getting buffed in the next Warriors Abyss update
https://twitter.com/musou_abyss/status/1935985989479993422

Replaying DW5 on a whim tonight, never realized how much of a bridge between 6th and 7th gen musou it is. The peons are so weak and so plentiful and your attacks have such a wider range than any previous game, you can see DW8 on the horizon

>>528244120
DW5 is in this odd spot for me. Hard is too easy unless you're under levelled, but Chaos is too big a jump in difficulty with the near zero healing items. Although those codes that were posted recently re-enable health drops for Chaos, so maybe I can try that as Chaos Minus or something.

>>528234401
Isn't it in Hebei?

>>528211875
It would be too gay. Romans used to wear miniskirts.

>>528234401
That's because Wu stole it and hid it. Because they're pieces of shit.

Koei totally could include the Korean campaigns in SW, it's not taboo they're just being pussies
It gets covered in manga about the period so why wouldn't it be allowed in a video game?

>>528254110
Koei are Japanese patriots and feel like the Korea campaigns are embarrassing and bring much dishonor.

>>528254110
If Koei is ever going to touch the subject of Korea in their games, they need to wait at least a few years (maybe even a decade) until the dust settles from their Rise of the Ronin pre-release controversy.
Just a QRD: Team Ninja released a videos of Rise of the Ronin to introduce the game to the public. In it, the game's developers talked about the gameplay, the world, the story and the characters, and their intent with the game. In one of these videos, ROTR's director Fumihiko Yasuda made a rather idiotic comment comparing one of the game's real-life characters to Socrates.
That character (a scholar named Shoin Yoshida) was rather famous for his desire to invade Korea.
Now I personally don't think Yasuda intended to endorse this specific imperialist aspect of the character's personality. Shoin was influential in ROTR's era of Japan in a way that was akin to the way Socrates was influential, so that comment was (in my understanding) more of a comparison of how similar they are in influence.
But Korean consumers didn't like what Yasuda said, and the game literally got banned from sales in Korea shortly after that video was released. Koreans who wanted to play the game in Korean could still get it, but they had to buy it from outside of Korea.
If you paid attention to Korean Team Ninja players on YouTube, if you were Korean and even played the game, you caused a lot of other Korean YouTubers to call you traitors and Japan sympathizers.
Check out this from a popular Korean Nioh player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyW0fSRowI. Just use the Translate to English button on the comments section and you'll have an idea of how much infighting drama ROTR caused in the Korean Team Ninja community.

I really don't like how Ultimate difficulty handles the AI of named officer enemies in DW8XL.
The fact that a named enemy officer can instantly initiate a musou a frame after escaping a juggle (because the game's wonky aerial juggle physics means that it's impossible to get 100% consistency in juggles) means that you have to play super defensively against these officers or just shitty cheese strats like being in a disadvantaged affinity so that you can bait those blue switch counters forever, or just using rage mode musous to delete the enemy officer in question.

>>528254110
If they do, they will only focus on the land campaign. Can't have Yi Sun-sin kicking ass now

>>528254110
The Korean campaign is too self-content and doesn't add anything to the overall story structure of SW. Also like >>528256210 said, it's better to be safe than sorry.

>>528254110
It would be the Japanese forces constantly stomping Korean npcs the entire time, boring

What are some good non-Koei musous that are worth playing?

Anyone know any good Dynasty Warriors or samurai or crossover FanFictions for people who do like fanfiction but not centered around shipping characters who do not have romantic attractions to each other in Canon?

>>528271154
Sengoku Basara if you don't mind it being Japanese only.

>not a single weapon skill in DW8XL you can equip that can prevent your character from flinching during charge attack animations like there was in Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate

>>528271154
Fate/Extella Link.
If you get it on PC, be sure to use your Nvidia Control Panel to cap the framerate at 60fps, otherwise, you get insane camera shaking just from having your character run around.

>>528273970
>Fate shit

>>528254110
Not so much Samurai Warriors probably, but Koei's other games have always been popular in South Korea and China, for a product targeted specifically at a Japanese audience like a manga it's maybe not seen as a big deal, Korea and China still get edgy about the topic though. I know there was supposed to be a Shimazu Yoshihiro-focused taiga drama and South Korea somehow complained enough to pressure the studio to not go ahead with it.
Also Omega Force is probably too lazy to make it work, it'd need new maps and soldier designs for an overall brief bit of the game. Although I suppose that's what the Nanman campaign is in DW

>>528274832
>>528254110
>>528256210
Something I got to see about Japan even though I love Japanese culture how many Manga and Anime Japan's not the best even compared to Western countries at admitting we done anything more we long ever and that includes what they did across Asia like when the monkey invaded Korea was bad animal and even to this day what they did during World War II like putting war criminals from the second world war at an old time sacred Temple. It's been an issue for America getting it out of allies in the area to cooperate with Japan. And you got to know when the Second Great unifier invaded Korea it was brutal.

>>528275671
Like that anon said, they can admit they fucked up, it seems to be more of a sensitive topic for South Korea and China than it is for Japan. Also the motives for the war were multi-faceted and there's stories you can tell around that. Imperial hubris was a part of it but it's also generally accepted that Hideyoshi wanted to keep the warlords busy and prevent them from warring with each other again while he establishes total control, so he had them unite against a foreign enemy.

>>528273840
It's called the Halberd because no one can hit you back

So I just played Chibi for the first time in Origins. Holy fuck.

>>528271154
This was interesting.

So what times in European history will you find most align or conducive or basically for video games we can do the same sort of Storytelling and gameplay type things for compared to China's 3 kingdoms ( with the yellow turbine rebellion and the lead up to the 3 kingdoms) and Japan I believe the end of the Warren states with the 3 great unifiers? Basic point of European Warriors game.

>>528279805
Isn't that where the outside of hypothetical Roots the game story ends for all 3 dynasties?I mean in Dynasty Warriors Origins I only just kicked Lu Bu out of Cao Cao territory he took over .

>>528286230
Prolly a crusade chronicle

>>528237050
I feel like pretty much all the non-elemental emblems that aren't Speed (meaning: Strength, Vigor, Skill, Wisdom, Charm) need to have their first 4 upgrades significantly buffed.
Right now, unless you have at least 8 points, it might as well be the same as only having 1 point.

>>528287110
Only for Woo. Wei can even sequence break to skip the actual final battle

>>528279805
Wei or Wu/Shu?

My wife looks beautiful no matter what she wears.

EVIL

Damn, Nobunaga looks like THAT?

Is Warriors:Abyss worth picking up on sale ($20)?

>>528314676
Some characters were made pale in 7 for some reason. Like Zhou Yu. Glad they changed it back.

>>528332836
Very much so.
If you like musou combat, then WA is unironically is one of the best Warriors game, because it takes away a lot of the poor stage pacing and design that often plagues Warriors games and focuses entirely on combat.
Up until the last difficulty level (which will take you a long time to reach with even just one character), you have quite a lot of build flexibility for each character.

>>528341913
lu lingqi could spank this bitch

>>528308398
Wei. That cluster fuck at the end was intense.

Kingdom vibes:
Wei
>Evil, but out of goodness.
Wu
>Neutral, but entitled. Just wants to exist.
Shu
>Good, but fickle.
Jin
>Evil, but out of a "Just shut up and get it done already."