>Newbro guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1hBnmHjpPB0jGITrT0y3_UsFNRrJ8w7uKV1Gu-Uh_pwc
>Resourceshttps://rentry.org/epicresources
>05/29 (Thu) Updatehttps://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/10760089
>Increased RatesRobin & An Assassin's Pledge Drop Rate Up
05/29 ~ 06/12
Charlotte & Elbris Ritual Sword Drop Rate Up
05/29 ~ 06/05
>Mystic SummonsRuele of Light, Judge Kise, Belian & Commander Pavel
05/15 ~ 06/05
>/e7g/ GuildsNyacolytes, Lucklets, Cope, Partyvan (Make sure to include /e7g/ in your greeting)
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>>525641807
>>526588623i salute the rabi
>>526588623i salute the rabi
>e7g dead
>etheria reshart already on 3 days threads
can a proper non chibi pvp gacha please appear?
>>526600830What went wrong with Etheria reshart?
>>526601781idk game looks cheap af and I don't like the 3d slop visual
but they are throwing up pull currency so I will continue to see what happens
>>526606235>Already switching into Etheria Reshart
bros can you post your fenne, i need help with the new pve mode
bros dont forget that free unequip ends tomorrow in 12 hours
Applied to Cope/Partyvan/Lucklets.
Can anyone help a newcutie out?
>>526614289sure bro, you'll get in when a vice look up the applications as long as you have /e7g/ on your greeting.
>>526614289fuck off pochi
I wasted my mystics on dark aria pity... but her tits were so huge...
>>526616415same, hope she is bad enough to get buffed soon
>>526614214thanks for the reminder bro
I rerolled a new account with ML Luna, Fallen Cecicila, and Abysal Yufine. And the emulator crashed and wont load anymore. FML.
post your ml aria build bros
>>526622245did you link the account? if not then im sorry bro
Comfy saturday night with my bros
if any newbro needs a guild for ancient inheritance they are most than welcome to join an /e7g/ guild
bros i think straze is good now
the new pve mode is filtering me
goodnight bros, please bump the thread while i sleep
It's over. They got the savior of E7 on their side now...
>>526630446we still have vikchun, elve, khm and kj
etheria will make as much as tribe nine watch my words
Welp bros, this is it. I'm officially dropping Epic Seven for Etheria: Restart. Tried balancing both, but E7โs grind just kills any chance of enjoying other games.
Not an easy call, $2k down the drain and years with the community, but itโs time. Etheriaโs fresh, fun, and doesnโt feel like a second job.
Thanks for the memories, /e7g/. Catch you all on the other side
erm u posted that yesterday redditbwo
I'm going to leech ai and there won't be any consequences
>>526650823that shit is infested with homos
my first ml5 was a male called heinrich
Welp bros, this is it. My final post on this general. At first, I thought that I could balance Epic Seven and Etheria: Restart with ease, and at first, I could. But I canโt survive on gacha alone; I need to play real games again, like Elden Ring and Genshin. I can still drop into Etheria: Restart while doing so, but Epic Seven just requires too much investment to have a gaming life outside of it.
Admittedly, this was not an easy decision for me to make. Partly because Iโve spent $2000, though that is a paltry sum to an adult like me. But mostly, I feel like Iโm responsible for this entire general. I created the first thread ever, and even came up with the name /e7g/. As the one who gave birth to this community, Iโm saddened that I have to leave it all behind, and let younger anons take the reins.
Before I go, remember this: though I may be gone, I will remain with you in spirit. Iโm proud to have been part of the /e7g/ family, and given the chance, I would do it all again. Goodbye, my friends. May we might again, in another time
>umamusume global in 2 weeks
fucking finally
>>526652654>Etheria restart already giving heavy blow to us>Now umamusume will follow up nextBros...how are we gonna survive this year?
>>526651082>that shit is infested with homosThe kettle calling the pot black. At least the homos in Etheria don't fuck the girls there.
I have noticed a real interesting pattern with e7 cultists, everything they criticize other games for they go and tolerate here, even if E7 is even worse in that aspect compared to the other game. It's almost as if they hate E7 game and only play it because of sunk cost fallacy.
>>526650427aieee pochi do something
why are we still here, just to suffer?
>>526656424I want to stay with the bros until last moment...
What is the best ml aria build, bwos?
>>526652790dont forget nte, ananta, azur promilia, that rabi cheeks game, lost sword
epic shit is deado
>>526588623i salute da rabi
>>526657395i think counter or speed/destro
>>526653257>At least the homos in Etheria don't fuck the girlstrvke, they fuck me instead
>>526657395im using destro pen at the moment gro
>>526657395Lifesteal/Resist with at least 200 speed
>retard like me can climb to 2300
dead game
>>526680745>climbyou fell
>>526680745you could always been able to do it bro
>>526680009what artifact do you use?
>>526682907i rate lifesteal but building res on a unit that gives herself 250 for free is a big waste, better to go into more hp or critD, artis basically gc krau arti or lethe arti, golden rose useable too if you're not on lifesteal
is it too late to jump to [that] game?
>>526684420it's never too late bwo <3
i just uninstalled "that" game
>>526684420Nah it's fine bro, you haven't missed anything, the ideal time is now.
Even some of the catposters have moved to [that] thread.
>>526684118man aria is so hot, why sg WHY!! DID YOU MAKE HER SUCK
>>526684118>>526688331She is giving me very CZN vibes because of her contemporary clothing combined with being extra coom
>>526688331still time for emergency buffs like hlua bwo
>>526653257>it's ok when my chink game does itkys seanigger shill
>>526689242bwo everyone spilled their loads and pulled her already, there will be no buff
>>526684420>4 days thread on day 3actually yes
>>526690340what makes it so popular with streamers but so unpopular with the general public?
>>526657395The counter builds seem to be HOT garbage
>>526693409do you think she needs immunity
>>526691881light said he didn't get sponsorship because he wouldn't agree to give positive review/promotion, and you are getting paid only if they like the videos you make, so unbiased takes might not get paid and he didn't want to do it on their terms
the chat nags him and elve to play it so they do a bit but aren't shilling it
>>526698530if the leadership can't contain the leeches i am joining after ai
l
md5: a5c7d88a588e42c5e1ad7a2bf80d81d8
๐
Is this game still 70% esports and 30% PVP with no girls for (You)?
why is /domg/ using rabi in their divegrass team..?
>>526704006the rabi is eternal
>>526693409Counter + pen with 1752 games near 50% win rate seems decent to me
>>526706919but going for actual stats (destro/speed) both have 54%
>>526709667base speed counter set?
a
md5: eb94060995b26b98f311da96689c0273
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>>526711839I don't know the average speed of counter arias but mine has some
>>526718843me hunting the leeches tomorrow
>>526657395 khhm thinks shes best on destro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yuuBO80afg
>>526656653LET GO BRO YOUR MAKING ME SUFFER AIEEEEEEE
>>526722639i used my pity on her
>>526724396it's over for you bwi
BROS ANCIENT INHERITANCE START TOMORROW
everytime i think about how i wasted 7 years of my life playing this kusoge i cant help but think about what could have been if i never played epic SHIT...
>>526727887It wasn't wasted bro....you gain something that's priceless.
Your bros.
>>526698530wtf who did pochi exile now?
relooted collab soon bwos
>>526732387name one character, retard
>even in etheria the waifus are mainly support while the homos are the nukers
this shity trend needs to die
>>526740015emm bro JK Adin, Tori and Soak Flan were all dps nukers
>>526743567and we just got rinak too
NOO
md5: 909fd3a39318b79664c0d262cf3981ae
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>new ai season tomorrow
>>526745542i feel the same gro...
AI GUIDE https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MAOoD0Wa19TACeCmvHvYA4AsG3rs4Tv-Fn7gn6ilrOA/edit?tab=t.0
ANCIENT INHERITANCE FIRST FLOOR MAP is UP
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPFH4oQg=/
im protesting AI by not doing AI
bwos are we joining the gyarus guild
bwos the world is burning to the ground and were still playing epic shit
>>526752924i hope cali gets nuked gro
im a secret agent in the gyarus guild
how do we stop the fatalcuck menace
>even ham is picking homos now and he's also waiting for ml ras
i guess ml ras is jesus he's turning everyone gay
>>526754614yeah i'm calling it
new hamsloth is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xktkM72G4K8
Didnโt you know itโs enough
Just to deserve that love?
Without a crowd, without a stage
Youโre still a real hero
Iโm gonna be the last line of defense
Iโll blow it if I lack of confidence
Iโve got to believe
That thereโs a need for my whole existence
I always knew where I stood
I tried to be so good
Look at me now
I donโt know how
But Iโm a real hero
>>526757232fake news im a nyacolytes and just checked the guild chat
>>526757805bro, excutie confirmed he is pulling the plug on his alts, we should consider merging all the guilds if that happens...
>>526759035wtf im a nyacolytes is this true
Who are the best teams to take down the avengers arena defenses?
Ml arunka, ml ilynav, ml cecilia, filler
Coomon fills: harsetti, belian, rinak, ml aria, asflan, reviver.
Your harsetti+senya+mort takedown teams?
>>526759227bad cat armin, wukong, yenya + 1, +1 being usually ftene, sometimes seline or roana
>watch yd's etheria stream
>his whole chat
>this dude is broken, this dude is very good, you're gonna need this dude for this, his s3 is really good, this guy is very good, he's meta, this dude is super good, his s2 is very very good,
from one homo game to another...
I am unironically having a lot of fun with etheria pvp even now where some people convert gems to energy to get ahead.
Once everyone catches up I can't even imagine why I would ever come back to e7 again. We had a good rum bwos, it has been fun...
pochi's deporting me to etheria
>>526759725With me it's the opposite
I'm too lazy to login and do the dailies, I feel like it's a chore
>>526759725With me it's the opposite
i pooped my pants
ermm epic bros? is this a win?
>>526685098
goodnight bwos, hope you have a nice monday
how to draft against lidica/zio/lewdica cleave? I'm getting my ass kicked
my only strat is ban protect belian and pray
>>526762867hyufine/ayufine/elynav/elena all good picks into that
>1 more hour until AI
>Still no plan or any word by guild leader
sorry bwos im on etheria AI will have to wait
>>526767829but which color?
Etheria officially killed E7 in its 7th year.
STOP PLAYING ETHERIA RESHART
>epic shit clone kills epic shit
>>526784938when are they announcing aria emergency buff so i know if i can ditch e7 completely for reshart
>>526774439the opposite color of youre waifu gro
>>526791667AIEEEEEEEEE how did this shitty clone game surpassed us by this far???
>>526792040gacha tourists want to "prove" themselves by playing a gacha pvp game so that people dont laugh at them for being mihoyo tourists but real pvp games like E7/summoners wars are too old for them
>>526792321unironically this saw people in chat call one of the healers the qiqi of reshart
>>526791667we'll rise soon bwo
epic rise and down into its grave
>>526748779>https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVPFH4oQg=/thanks bwi but
>crit protmaybe I sleep instead
>can only play this game once every 2 weeks because inventory in this game is so fucking dog shit you need to put spare gear on 300 fodders
holy fuck thank God this game is dying
>>526795746please help bro the dust from pringles is nice too...
>>526796397also no gear loadouts in a game which can have a multitude of different builds
costs money to unequip gear still
fuck this game
>>526799806>no gear loadoutsthis is always by design
gear loadouts reduce the barrier to entry by letting you quickswap gear around. this means you only need to farm 4 working sets instead of say 12 (for 3 teams)
the convenience factor is a huge thing
guildbros hitting me instead of the ai mobs??????
>>526784938>>526789043I am just waiting for CZN personally.
Etheria Restart for competitive pvp and CZN for the art and (you) pandering (unlike epic cuckshit).
We have entertained many games over the years as e7 killers but etheria is really looking like it's about to do it. They are pushing that shit hard with advertisements and sponsorships, there is obviously some serious money behind it. I can already imagine their first eSports event mogging anything e7 has done.
>4(four) days thread on week 1
nice epic7 killer you got there lemeeeow
>>526588238 (OP)dropped this game a couple years ago, had some decent stuff but nothing amazing
is there any reason to pick it back up now or should i just keep playing raid shadow legends?
there are people who play raid shadow legends..?
rsl and e7 are practically the same game, just one being anime and the other not
i thought that was summoners war
nah rsl has shitty gay guild battles now, its practically e7 just not anime and more trash, with a built in bitcoin miner so they designed the game to force "serious" players to keep it open at least 3 hours a day
lord of heroes couldnt kill us
outerplane couldnt kill us
counterside couldnt kill us
grand cross couldnt kill us
raid shadow legends couldnt kill us
dyslite couldnt kill us
brave nine couldnt kill us
GYEE couldnt kill us
last cloudia couldnt kill us
dragon quest walk couldnt kill us
pokemon master sex couldnt kill us
dragalia lost couldnt kill us
langrisser couldnt kill us
king's raid couldnt kill us
world flipper couldnt kill us
overhit couldnt kill us
sinoalice couldnt kill us
crossing void couldnt kill us
illusion connect couldnt kill us
hoyoslop couldnt kill us
artery gear couldnt kill us
brown dust couldnt kill us
higan eruthyl couldnt kill us
wuwa couldnt kill us
ngl e7 is actually ded tho fr
death by a thousand cuts?
erm why does e7 feel like a full time job now
>>526817546by years of neglect after they bailed on the imprint meme that the whales said was dumb
they shouldve just kept their plans and crashed the game with no survivors
>>526817546doombros have been saying that for years, if anything i think e7wc will be kino and genesis ras is almost here
>another op homo to terrorize me
aieeee make it stop
KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE
GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN WO NUKI
JAN JAN BYAN BYAN KYUKYOKU NO BATURU
IMI WA NAI SA TATAKAU DAKE
loyal
md5: a88ce8835a857c4640f2f285c3887cc3
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i believed.
>enters AI
>10 leeches just sitting at the start
>>526849643me myself myself and i just me myself and i
bros dont forget to do ancient inheritance it started today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7puoO8TDKE&ab_channel=ChaosZeroNightmare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7puoO8TDKE&ab_channel=ChaosZeroNightmare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7puoO8TDKE&ab_channel=ChaosZeroNightmare
IT'S FUCKING NYOVER FOR EPIC SHIT
>>526862317>still using chibislol
lmao even
partyvanbros please help with ai
>>526862317etheria and now this? Ya goodbye epic shit
>>526862317So this is why E7 stop doing collab...
They are slowing abandoning e7...
>>526865761>SS abandoned for E7>E7 abandoned for CZNThe cycle continues bwos
cznbros? how do we comeback from this?
erm is anyone leaving serin soon
>>526866910>little chibis vs a bossL MEOW
>>526865138>>526865445>>526866034>>526866910Why can't Epic Shit have characters like these anymore?
>>526866910lthis will be last nail in sg's coffin
>>526865138>>>karin at homeLMEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Thank god e7 isnt a chibishit game
>>526866910>Meanwhile the epic e7 spriteWE FUCKING LOST
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7puoO8TDKE
WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE WANT TO PLAY 24/7 SIMULATED UNIVERSE LEMEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>526867861errm if you wanna shitpost at least post a recent character
>>526867983>240p screenshotshut up seanig
>>526862317those chibis look so out of place
>>526868250tbf you need a high iq to appreciate the juxtaposition bwo
>>526867861what game is this? looks better than the new chaos zero nightmare game
>>526868365literally Nahkwol
why is fatalcuck shilling this chibi garbage
I want Rabi in CZN so I can see her get killed and mutilated
>>526868723Same
But instead of Rabi it's you
>>526862317>pre-reg in july>release in august probably>right on time for WCfinally free from this game in two months
>hes falling for the fatalpsyop
>>526862317we losted bigly
this shit is just like Artery Gear again
seanigs shilling chibishit that will eos in 1 year
erm why is fatalp**** trying to shill a new game as soon as ai started
>>526870429But enough about PvP sloppa and doomposting a prereg like a seanigger or even worst a jeet
>>526870570someone post fatalcuck ai status
I am a seanig and love epic7 doe
does fan of light and dark crit damage buff do anything if your dps has 350 crit damage?
>>526870892i dont think crit damage buff does but i remember misha being able to go over the cap so maybe fan of light does too
/ourguy/ Jena is live bwos
havent posted in months. was the last bread really 8 days old? is 7e finally dying?
>>526876195>jobbed in the trailernot mine lol
>>526876474how's your ai going gwo?
>>526868365blue peira skin?
>>526870195finally some death on screen, albeit shadowed. But thats just as hot.
i'll wait for eulagro verdict on czn
>>526876623Haven't looked at it since I ran out of energy this morning
me being carried in ancient inheritance
Please join Cope, newbros are welcome too
rabibros aint welcome in cope btw
>>526878408based me wearing pink
bros remember to pick the shield or the flag if you have the opportunity to do so, also the best way to level up quickly is not using full teams when fighting the monsters, is better to try to 2 man them or 3 man them at worse, if you fail as long as you were not fighting an elite mob or boss you'll only lose 1 provisions and you'll get to keep your heros to retry the fight
>>526880043old look better...
>>526880043more like chibi zero revenue nightmare
>>526862317>Self insert captain>for (you) girls>Kino horror elements>ACTUAL full scale 2d models visible from behind when using a character >animated skill artWe won bigly, epic seven had until August I guess before it gets spitroasted by Etheria and CZN
>>526862661Those don't even look that different from e7 semi chibis bro
>>526881224>>526868137>Those don't even look that different from e7?
>>526880410>>526880604>>526880043Old ones look way worse bro. They look like full on chibis, new ones are like 70% on their way into looking like e7 characters which is at least an improvement
>>526881740still looks terrible
czn sprites are like 3.5 heads tall while epic7 are 5.5~6
shouldnt have given them bubbleheads
>>526881930I do find their choice stupid as well, just replicate the e7 proportions, especially when you were forced to change them once.
But at least they have these models to make up for it.
>>526881740>>526882221>>526881930More like theyโre adjusting the chibis to be closer to darkest dungeon one which is where some of the gameโs mechanics are clearly borrowed from..? Next youโll tell me you donโt know what slay the spire is
CZN won
Outer won
Epic lost
Lost lost
>>526882156Night bro, sleep well
>you can still use your units for combat even if they're not fully mentally recovered
i'm looking forward to CZN
czn about to deal the final blow to epic shit and kill it for real
>>526883268Do you fags just not consume Korean media aside ebin seven? Darkest dungeon gets referenced from time to time in manhwa thatโs the whole point of the mental break down character art in the CZN gameplay trailers
>>526884028I mean I've never really played Darkest Dungeon, closest adjacent I've played is the porn game parody. What gook media (manhwa let's be honest) references DD?
>>526884028That looks very interesting, my main interrogation is how the roguelike/lite aspect is gonna interact with the game being a gacha.
I mean when you play a game like Darkest Dungeon, you fully expect a hard game (so a game in which you expect to fail, if anything to see the executions in this case) but a game you have some control over (so not sure about cards and its possible RNG) in which you get stronger through meta progression (and knowledge), while gachas usually uses farm nodes you repeat till you can break the game, with the gacha itself also selling you not only characters but power, and the game usually turns into a daily routine.
If the game has the balls to fully embrace the rogue route and spare us wyvern simulator II it has a chance to be amazing, but if it lets all the usual gacha gameplay loop system destro it it also can be incredibly disappointing.
>excutie and his alts contributing as much as all of netori in ai
ok who the fuck idea was it to merge with the catleeches?
>>526884028I played darkest dungeon with fgo mods
does this count?
>>526882647>>526884028>zoomershit thinks lovecraftian horror and sanity meters are a DD invention embarrassing
>>526884505grandpa no one played alone in the dark
>>526884217The main theme of the game is looping for that one good route before it all turns to shit so wyvern hell ad nauseam is still a possibility, with gacha characters could likely be related to saving them while you do your expeditions
>>526884505I never said that schizo, sanity meters have been a thing since forever but CZN is clearly influenced by Darkest dungeon in particular in that regard alone while the gameplay is more like slay the spire, the chibis change were also definitely a dev decision to make it more alike in that regard and the whole original topic was the chibi shit I never once said DD made lovecraftian shit
>>526884337Hmm nyes it counts
>>526884181Any manhwa that isnโt made to farm out hype moments and aura, but Iโve seen DD referenced a handful of times in the many manhwa Iโve consumed and the porn parody was kino even if it was basically DD but easier since the style, characters, and ost was great
Fatalcuck is leeching the AI
Vehs kick him
>>526885130can a vice kick another vice?
erm can someone link the ai map ty
>>526885130WTFFF Stop spreading misinformation.
>>526885130he..hes gonna move and not leech r-right...?
>>526885316its here bwi, just ctrl+f miro
>>526748779
>>526884181It mightโve just been one manhwaโฆ then guess this manhwa and CZN are the only gook media referencing DD then canโt really think of anything else even in other gachas
>21/30 people have joined AI
nice spooperguild "bwos"
>>526885537Tyrant of Tower Defense Game is somewhat similar
For some reason gooks love despairslop, probably because they live in a corpocratic country
>>526885660Thatโs definitely a factor
checking out other shit dungeon meshi referenced it and 4-cut hero but thatโs a jp and chink creator the only other one thatโs Korean is a shitty manhwa named level up alone that seems shit all over with the pic from earlier and here being Dungeon Odyssey
How do I stop my nyacolytebros from dancing with the devil?
>>526866862we have 1 spot open atm
HOLY FUCK THESE LEECHES ARE SO FUCKING DISGUSTING
>>526885397>hes a walkerits nyoger
fatalbros? they are starting to notice us...
>>526889985NYOOOOOOOO VEHS COULD HAVE ENDED THE LEECH RIGHT THEN AND THERE https://arch-img.b4k.dev/vg/1594987609805.jpg
>his big plan was to go to some 3rd world country and try to make a living streaming epic shit
>immediately switches to either shit
lul
>>526890749he streamed like 3h of epic shit and also said czn is dogshit
>>526890000stop nyoticing
im gonna say it, vehs doesnt have the balls to do what needs to be done
>>526891341How about you say that in Guild chat, big boy?
>>526892079based fatalGOD asserting dominance over pooptsu Tryhard
man i don't think we can complete ai this time.
>feelsadman
>>526895097I think so too bro. Etheria released fucking killed us....
>>526897373>let me celebrate with my etheriabros>120 posts in a 24h threadheh I don't think so, it's just leeches being lazy as usual
>>526897373>Etheriais it good bwo? are we finally dying?
>>526897626Erm Summoners War mogs Epic Shit and doesn't have a /vg/ thread
>fatalcuck shilling his chinkoid games again
just realized that since CZN is "graphic" it means we won't ever see loli characters, only teenagers and "teenagers"
anyways here's the one webm that i saved from the first czn leak, anyone else saved the entire first leak?
>>5268976264chan thread speed has nothing with popularity. If that was the case. Blue archive would make the most money but it's not by far
>>526901101so why are seaniggers doomposting e7 7 days threads
>>526901962because it's fun
>>526902060it's fun to shit on reshart too
>>526900820https://youtube.com/shorts/YV1UYger5gM
Nobody is safe
for me its shitting on anything sg related
for me its shitting on anything chinese
chowmein is good thoughbeit
>didnt get a flag or shield
heh, looks like il be leeching this time around
>>526909684pls don't give up bro, you can still be very useful, just focus on single element and objectives for that element
Me when looking at my guild dragon rage point progress
>>526928383worldly matters like that are beneath me. i need only to strike my warden down as it appears
>epic shit 8 confirmed to use AI
LMAO
GET FUCKED TRAITORS
>>526932424we are doing our best
holy shit epic shit is such a dead game
>>526934873bwo the e7wc and genesis ras will be hype
>>526933291Bro, you are aware epic 7 has been using AI as well, right?
hi im from etheria restart and why is there a weird number when removing relics? ^_^
>>526941610wrong general gro
>both ml hwa and aria suck donkey ass
>both are hot mature waifus
fucking gay ass gooks (but muh ml r-ass)
>>526957261hwa would be good if she could get barrier and buffs, even then i think she is still useful ml aria i sitll dont know but hoping everyone is wrong and she turns out to be good
nyacolytesbros... don't look at the ai starting point
is it too late to leave my guild? i want to join a guild that participates in ai...
https://youtu.be/ugRJv58WhEE?t=220
Ourguy knows what up. I would trade slightly chibilike models for additional full body models like this in E7 any day
every nyacobro who doesn't max at least one element by the end of this ai will be writing an essay explaining in detail why they failed to do so, how they contributed in ai, and what will they do in preparation of next ai to improve their performance
>ofc the czn shill is the furryzad poster
>slightly chibilike models
>>526963837look at this duuudes
why does aria have 60% winrate in legend? Was everyone wrong?
>>526968159WTF FATALP**** ISNT THERE
Why is smilegate allowing Super Creative to kill their own game?
>>526970589E7 stopped bringing in new players at a sustainable rate a while ago.
Both smilegate and super creative know this so they are just squeezing everyone that is left for everything they are willing to pay.
We can't even maintain a one week thread anymore even with all the off topic posters coming to shill other games.
>>526968165wait for khm and light veredict bwo
Rolled ml lua, ml hwayoung and ml aria despite the players protests that they are terrible.
>>526975097bro both ml lua is broken, hwa is good and ml aria may be better than we think see
>>526968165
its nyover, crump is destroying all the anti aids molas, epic seven players all dead by the end of the year...
is it to late to leave my guild bros... i want to find a more active guild for this AI.
>>526985010join nyacolytes
>>526986123but im in your stupid leech infested supershitter guild...
>The Husky just admitted that she spend some money in Etheria reshart
AIEEEEEEEE
BWOS SHE SAID SHE SPENT 280 DOLANS
>>526989002i think it may be time to merge with cope...
>>526989002at least the AI gear sets sucks this time...
Bros what if partyvan and cope merged but they took over netori
>>526996928Then they still wouldn't have enough people for gw
>>526996928bwo once the merger happened all the leeches moved to partyvan and cope so if they merge thats like leeches^2
embwos is purple eda still good
>>526998145i dont know bro, ask eulagro he has a phd in gacha
/ourguy/ Jena is live bwos
>>526998145Just roll for anyone you like bro. HSR is a single-player game right? So who give a shit about meta.
>>526998919keep yourself safe
bwo the gyaru looks like shes having so much fun....
>>527001191bro your genesis ras...
>>526984517we can still clear it bwo
yuppiebros won the skin is coming soon
but what if lucklets beat nyacolle, will they disband?
>>527002756better come with a rework too
>>527001772yulher makes me happy gro
Sorry dwos, a fool like me can only do foolish things
>>527003217same
>>527004428its ok bro, it wouldnt be the same without you
ETHERIA IS DYING BECAUSE THEY NERFING CHARACTERS FOR PVE LET'S HECKING GOOOOOO
>>527005465but e7 did this too in its first year...
>>527005465We won...WE FUCKING WON
>>527005575nta but they even nerfed ml5 pve capabilities in a stealth nerf without prior notice
>>527005916no they didn't
>>527006398yes they did
they nerfed DoT in aurora and Sania a ml5 went from a top tier comp to unusable
and all this without prior notice
>>527006609you mean they changed content and not the unit so they don't have to issue a recall..?
>>527006996chinks are the jews of asia
>>527007702Night bro, sleep well
>>527004428chat is that real?
Wasn't this story meant to be a what if where Ras didn't job?
Did I miss something?
>ras jobs
>more cute girls die
epic homo
>>527009962It's the prologue story, didn't you read
i fucking get it now sg is smart they know people will pull for aria despite her lackluster kit because she's hot and then they can sell their overpriced mystic packs for meta fags to pull for ras because they're going to make him broken af
>>527011101meta fags will skip aria to pull for ras
then waifu fags will cry for a year the op wc ml5 is destroying thwir aria and it's a homo game despite 80% of top tiers being female units
Just got a shield.
I will save this AI, bros
Erm bwos itโs no fun it nobody stops it
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Why are these "people" like this, I just want to do my funny Rinak DKSharun cleave and this faggot instalocks Lidica
>>527019860>nooo why do people play to win instead of doing le funny reddit memesretard
>>527019930>nooo i want to get more numbers so i'm picking the most obnoxious meta units possible so my number goes upAre you stupid
>>527020501yes welcome to pvp games
your seethe makes me stronger
>>527020703oh yeah, what's your ranking + most used units
>>527020501says the "person" first picking rinak
kys seanig
>>527021463I'd pick Rinak even if they pick EIlynav, FCC and ML Abunga and I'd STILL win with her, get bent
>>527021709thats why khm draft bans rinak because she is broken
ermbwos I got blue eda lets heckin goooooo
>>527024173Not e7....but I'm happy for you bro.
>>527024625thx bwi, I think im gonna save the rest for saber
i would rather watch e7g burn to the ground than let this off topic poster get away with posting non e7 related content
>>527025629Weird flex but okay....
ive been playing this game for so long that every rgb i pull is 8 coins nyo...
>>527025194Partyvan member here.
I rather not to say it...
>>527026481it is time for you to merge into our reshart guild
I'm crucified, crucified like my savior
Saintlike behavior, a lifetime I prayed
I'm crucified for the holy dimension
Godlike ascension heavens away
>TWENTY TWENTY FIVE (2025)
>Bot arena still has the shitty lightning system that only affects the attackers side
>TWENTY TWENTY FIVE (2025)
>Browser event only gives 10 points per adventure and sidestory run despite UH being gone and most good farming stages in adventure costing 20 AP
TOTAL SMILEGOOK DEATH
>>527026140thats good bro, you can use those coins to buy stuff
EPIC GENEROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
newbwo here, can I get an epic feels for this feel?
Me staring down a mob I wanted to kill (I still don't have either shield or flag)
>>527053430>you can regear for no content for free
>>527053430I still don't understand people who complain about unequip costs, do your wyvern hunts lil bro
>>527054103emm bro i need free unequip for ancient inheritance.
Playing Etheria right now for the pvp and enjoying the game much more than E7 but I am honestly more excited for CZN.
Super Creative, as funny as it sounds, always shined when it came to their creativity. Making an enjoyable pvp experience was never their strong suit and CZN, whether it has pvp or not, looks like it's at least flexing their strongest point by far.
The only gacha I was REALLY looking forward to before the latest trailer has been Endfield, but after seeing more of CZN I might actually be more excited for it.
The fact that the female dev that ruined epic seven seems to have no part in it also helps.
can't fool me redditreposter
>>527066285momo if she accepted her slutty nun side
bros dont forget do your attacks
>>527066503>he thinks reddit homos would ever call out the game for pandering to shipshit troons (aka them)lol, lmao even
>>527071710>ranked fourth in previous seasonerm eubros response?
who the fuck keeps on bumping this pyosg every hour, let it die
>>527066285i dont play aislop garbage bro
please help with the wardens bros
>>527084291>i dont play aislop garbage bro
>>527088769run the test lil bro, surely it'll be positive
>>527089252>r-run the test!!!lmao
>>527089521>check archives>posts on /arkg/, /wizg/ and /gbfg/actual subhuman yikes i should start ignoring you
>>527091381>actually believes this image is some exclusive shit nobody else has>he thinks I play a chibi tower defense game and a 2010s gachaLMAO what a brainlet. This is one of the most popular pics on /wizg/, which yes I used to play
No wonder you still play epic ai shit being as retarded as you are.
Maybe you should learn from your game and use ai to respond next time, it surely couldn't get any more embarrassing.
>>527092414yeah yeah whatever you say lil bro, you already lost the moment you use cat images and images from other gachas
maybe next time call your discordsisters to gang up on poor widdle anon because clearly you can't win an argument LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>527092751>he thinks I was ever hiding >he thinks cats are /e7g/ exclusive You really need to start using AI bro, you can barely even read if you were ever under the misunderstanding I was pretending to still play this kusoge
nyacolytes bros the war is winnable if we use our attacks...
i dyont thyink i wyill nyor cyare about wyinning
>>527096540why do we even keep this guy on stronghold still, his defense jobs and he doesn't attack, and when he does he jobs those too
>>527096540Please don't do that bro. We are in crisis. We need more active participation among members more than ever.
>>527101201sry bwo its hard to feel like playing when all the hope posters are dead and 90% of e7g is offtopic or ted posting
>>527095426i've already attacked
>>527096540nyiiiiiiioooooooooooo
Janny just banned the totalposter....
I can't believe they killed fatalcuck again...
>>527119009what's with those green leaf things?
>>527119113its for ambience bwo, you dont want 4000 lumens of light just on top of your head bwi its bad vibes
BEWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
>>527119397>you dont want 4000 lumens of light just on top of your head bwiYes I do, ain't nothin I wanna see anymore
>>527120205its bad ergonomics for your eyes bwi
copebros please help with ai
>>527121235i just sent my thoughts and prayers
>>527119397just turn off the lights bri
>>527123158im afraid of the rabi monster
bread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn8gHsEuULY
>>527123206uh, but you're sitting right next to it right now?
>>527125172Bro, where are all the e7 streamers??
>>527125548>its not an edit total...
>slurpies ran out of arguments
yeah i'm thinking it's finally over, been a good run but it's time to end it
whats the veredict on ml aria?
>>527135132er is not a win condition so no one cares
>>527135132she is a belian sidegrade for people who don't have 3f (both have 54-55 wr)
Returning player here. I can't believe they got rid of the map! It helped me immerse myself in the world of E7.
>>527134461Night bro, sleep well
>>527132482:o
Dear dairy,
It's day 3 of AI. But my guild still collecting the dragon rage point
>>527142360on floor 2, right?
bwos this made me realize epic shit has no good songs to listen to, zero songs to remeber by... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szyPY8nbBF4
>>527148601yeah no that sounds like shit but your point is correct, epic shit has 0 good ost compared to literally every other gacha on the market
>>527148601>>527150563Ermm e7 has some bangers though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBa2quG1isg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW0y-nUdZdc
>>527151029yeah no retard
promise is the only plausible decent song and its still shit by industry standards
>>527148601>bwos this made me realize epic shit has no good songs to listen to, zero songs to remeber by...Super Creative are saving all the kino for CZN
>>527151029based, frozen eclipse is my fav
>>527150563erm 2.1m in 10 days is hsr threat level
>>527154631its a chink song boosted by chinks, worthless bugmen views
>go slow for once in my life because I want to try out Charles
>banned
why
>>527161101he had no dispels and you banned his jenua so it was a good call?
Don't look at E7 viewers numbers on Twitch...
>>527165513more than this morning
>>527125548
>>527165513>caring about t****h numbersyou are brown
>want to help out guild in ai
>lvl 7
>no shield
>no flag
>vitality brew+wooden doll+bronze ring
sorry bros there are places I must be
>>527143767>>527142360at least the set sucks this time sataniabro...
>>527179074its ok bro, you can swap the relics at the purple altars
>Etheria has ingame sports betting
Okay that's cool as fuck
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>>527194193you don't have to rub it in on us. We know epic7 is going to go eos and there's nothing we can do but accept it...
>>527194193>f2p cuckie doesnt get to play the game and his only entertain is sitting in the chair and watching whales enjoy pvplol
lmao even
>>527211345Ehhh E7WCbros???
release the genderbender skins
bros they are calling elvemage omega wtff
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>>527212585Only game I now that ever did this was brave nine and it was based as fuck
emm tankdown bros where are KHM and waterbuffalo
nyacolytes bros... the dead bodies are starting to smell bad....
>>527179074you are doing more harm than good if you dont have the shield + flag combo
bwos I think i just discovered something big, hamslut just copies these brainrot videos and just replaces all the scenes with epic shit.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrNmX0jS8Pk
>>527213546isn't that brown dust 1?
>>527223874those .exe videos stopped being funny more than 10 years ago
>>527222019maybe it is time for me to give up and become a loot goblin...
>>527223874hamsloth videos stopped being funny after his first vid
>>527223874I like hamsloth video please tell me this ain't true...
>>527225728i hope they both full clear each others forts
>>527223874YWSTPTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>527233047based
>>527225728send rabibro your prayers
>>527225728one sided gw as always
blay it babilow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1mqrCTFoz4
lol they're actually not going to buff aria literally ml hwa 2.0 except she's even worse than hwa meanwhile ras is going to break the game if there was ever a time to quit e7 it's now
bwos why dont we have any tear jerking character development for epic shit like other games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=019SG8vYiLs&t=41s
>>527246707alencia is a cock jerking character
>>527248548my cock specifically
>>527250857need ilynav gf like that
[Sad News] The plane with destination to Etheria Restart from Epic 7 crashed merely a minute after taking off, leaving only one survivor from Nyacolytes alive.
>>527253447imagine having friends dwos haha
>>527253689and then they leave you for Etheria Restart
ermm I just logged into etheria reshart and it's under maintenance again
>>527254504wtf i wanted to last minute reset the fire girl...
Come to think of it, why isn't there a "reset" option for epic shit units even without nerfs/reworks? Ther's a few units I want to "uninvest" from.
>>527254713bwo ur acc is bricked
>>527254713I think you got reSHART bwi
>>527254713couldntve happened to a more deserving person ONGOD
>>527254834We get free unequip days and Etheria gets free character reset days (since they don't have to pay anything to unequip obviously)
We have to farm for gear with the game on while they can just close the game and auto battle will still complete serverside.
Epic Seven is still stuck with the FGO era gacha mentality where you made everything purposely a pain in the ass to do to induce stockholm syndrome to your playerbase.
>uma musume global in 13 days
TOTAL
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>ctrl f 'epic shit'
>22 results
>ctrl f 'epic rise'
>1
lol, lmao even
>>527255304The horse game is just a yakuza money laundering scheme, it's czn we should be worried about
>>527255304what are we naming our guild bros
>>527255261Why close the game when those most generous 10 runs will be done 5 mins later? Sounds like a minor qol that gets outweighted easily by the other bullshit that's in the game
I already warned you that the ex-netori can't be trusted, but I didn't tell you that that included me
>>527256072>other bullshit Like what? Let's not pretend to be ridiculous here, epic seven has ten times the amount of bullshit etheria has. The whole selling point of etheria is that it's a more modern e7 with less bullshit.
>>527255432>those youtube viewsThey're not advertising CZN, it's guaranteed year 2 EoS which fucking sucks
>>527257248>looks at epic shit views>still got 20 yearsehm
>>527257391CZN is shaping up to be non-PvP judging by the gameplay trailer which isn't gonna bring in the whalebucks like Epic Shit, and Smilejews is very fucking jewish
>>527256918Like having E7's whole awakening feature behind a paywall in reshart? Like having 7 fucking sets in one hunt? Having way more rng? They took all the worst parts of epic seven and made them worse
>>527259023Holy sexo what game bro?
>>527257925>awakening paywalledIt isn't though?
>too manysets in one hunt Well for one being so much easier to farm than e7 remedies that a lot. I for example rarely farmed in E7 because it's just completely unrealistic to expect someone to have the game open to farm gear all day, now I can farm a lot more than I ever did here . But the most important part is that farming a specific set here is also not nearly as important because you have shells that make completing set effects much, much easier. Some set bonuses also overlap, so even if you want to build just speed sets on one character, there is just one set that gives speed bonuses. Not to mention you WANT to use more sets since shells provide sets bonuses for up to three different sets. So you actually want to farm multiple sets at the same time to maximize the three different set bonuses you get from shells. This systens also adds a lot more gear customization that e7 lacks.
The gear system is different, you are not going to get anywhere by judging it from the perspective of a different game.
>more rngit took e7's 15% and lowered it to 10%. I would have preferred it to not be there at all, but that's still less rng than e7.
It also doesn't have a 50/50 system and the pity is lower as well while having a higher income at the same time. You also don't need to pull for artifacts to have a complete character like E7.
I could keep going, rng is much more of an issue in E7.
Once you start stacking up the benefits etheria has, like being way more generous, with much more QOL and a lot less bullshit, without all the gear packs and the new pay to win items they introduced the last 2 years, saying Etheria has more bullshit is just dishonest.
>>527259958*there isn't just one set that gives speed bonuses
>>527259839e7 killer bwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-RO0_vFQwc
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>>527259958this is just the cherry on top
>>527260742>10% more dmg if you swipe L E M E O W
>>527260742reSHART niggas real quite after this dropped
>>527260742>ignored my whole post We are clearly not getting anywhere here. I will entertain you one last time though, E7 has a dupe system as well.
Only it's much worse since the bonuses can affect more than just the character itself. E7 also isn't as generous with pulls as etheria nor does it have the mechanics ehreria has to make it easy to regularly get dupes from the guild and the pvp shop.
Don't forget you also have to pull for artifact dupes in E7 to make your character as strong as they can be. And artifacts are as much a part of the character as the character itself. They just have them separate to make you turn a blind eye to how stupid the systen is, like you are doing right now.
You are once again talking about a system that you have no idea about how it actually functions and just assume it's exactly as E7.
You need dupes a lot more in E7 and they are much harder to get as well.
If you think the dupe system in ehreria is bad, then the dupe system in E7 is awful.
>>527260742errmm how will the seanigs comeback from this??
>>527260742POCHI FUCK EM UP
>e7chad just jobbed to an etheriakek
bwos...
>>527262578erm i thought it was the other way around wtf
>>527261695Is it really generous if you have to max imprint every single character?
>>527263189Do you max imprint/max artifact dupe every character in E7?
IT'S UP
https://sketch.pixiv.net/@user_kgup3884/lives/7000283415207152376
>>527263304Yes, I do max those that I deem worthy. It's not even difficult when you have infinite bookmarks from secret shop and slates/bottles.
>>527263831>those that I deem worthyThen just do the same for those you find it worthy in Etheria. You don't need to max every single character as you said before.
I have played both games and am aware of how easy it is to get a character and dupes in both games.
Etheria just ends up coming ahead because the gacha system is just WAY better while the income also is better as well (and we are still in the early game where we can't maximize the income from all the game modes).
I am not even trying to doompost e7 since the game will continue doing great financially because of how unique its 2d animations are.
But there no need to apply double standards either
can someone tell me if pochi got btfo or not
>>527260908it's way more if you count the previous nodes
>aislop
>p2w dupes
>homos
>3d looks like shit
>4d generals 1 day after release
lmao
this nigga really trying to label a bit of team hp or attack as being more p2w then 10% dr and damage lmeow
>>527266353goodnight bro, sleep well
>>527264592If you don't max imprint when they are so fucking broken then you might as well not play pvp in a "PvP focused" game.
Etheria doesn't even work as a character collector because most designs are terrible.
>>527259958no one has the game open 24/7 farming lilbro, you can insta complete all your stam with the daily skips they give and be done in 5 min
>while having a higher income at the same timesource? most of e7 pulls come from refreshing secret shop and we already know from mrpokke that new players get more than enough to pity an ml5 straight away for free if they want. Most of the friends that started in dash last year are sitting on 4+ covenant pities worth just from clearing out story and refreshing for mystics
>>527266578The exact same can be said for e7 and in fact IS being said for e7 in any other general whenever it's mentioned.
And it's even worse here than Etheria since E7 both has straight up stat dupes like etheria and artifact dupes that actually affect the skill itself instead of just giving raw stats you can make up for with gear.
You are literally playing a half finished version of the character in E7 without an artifact and it's dupes even if we ignore the character imprints which you are greatly downplaying for some reason.
>>527267439but that's a false equivalence because megawhales in this shit game don't whale for character dupes, they whale for gear packs
>>527266737>more than enough to pityan ml5 straight away>most of the friends that started in dash last year are sitting on 4+ covenant pities worth just from clearing out story and refreshing for mysticsThat isn't very impressive at all. Etheria just launched and most people are already sitting with at least 1 to 2 ML5s and 5+ regular SSRs. If they aren't saving their pulls you easily make that 2-3 ML5s and 8+ SSRs.
The regular income itself is also good enough people feel comfortable wasting 10 pulls worth of gems daily on energy knowing they can regain that back quickly later on.
And that's not even mentioning the fact that there is no 50/50 system so you can get exactly what you want in a much smaller pity than e7 while the income itself is larger as well.
>>527267818>there is an even more broken p2w system in E7 so whales prioritize that over the already broken dupe and artifact systemBro...
>>527268026no one is dumb enough to fall for your ragebait lilbro: enough to pityan ml5 straight away =/= 1 ml 5. The dude was unlucky and had to pity luna but had 5+ already by then, way more now.
>wall of text without providing any evidence once of more pullsyeah we trust you shillbro, you wouldn't lie to us right?
>>527268114i'm not even the same guy you're arguing with but there is no way you can get me to play a second epic shit equivalent with how bad epic shit already burned me
OH NONONONO Etheria already reSHART the bed.
EoS soon we WON again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNsCp0pI-q0
>>527268407That's a perfectly valid standpoint
>>527268286>describing exactly things are>doesn't count as evidence What would even count as evidence for you? Do I have to drop the game's files here for you to go through and calculate how generous the game is?
The only way to truly verify anything is to play it yourself, but if that was the case for anything then nobody's word here means a thing, including yours.
In conclusion, you are just a seething retard that can only reply dishonestly to anything I post. Even when presented facts you just turn your head away, plug your ears and scream like a little child throwing a temper tantrum.
>>527268794based Aidenovich Pochinov wiping the floor with doomcucks
BWOS /ourguy/ PUT ETHERIA BELOW E7
WE WON
>>527268870>provide 0 evidence>dude just trust meThe only mad one here is you because someone who actually plays the game is here to call you out on your bs lol. It's your own words saying its more generous, its on you to prove it is, this is the e7 general. In 4 months time when your launch freebies run out will you be able to pity every new unit guaranteed? For e7 I know unless you whale you won't get every new mystic char here without being giga lucky, but getting every new rgb + arti is guaranteed just from sitting champ in arena and doing your dailies and weekles, have seen that from plenty of friends that started during dash event last year and origin this year - can check mrpokke's channel if you need video evidence but I know you don't care to since you're just here to ragebait (:
>>527269316whats the tierlist criteria? worst story at the top? worst resource progression at the top?
>nooo my shitty chink game is not p2w!!!
>p2w whale event in the first week of release
lol
lmao even
It's clear who their target audience is: Summoner's war mega whales
Please keep shilling it everywhere so slimegate maybe does something...
>>527270471Ehm Summoners war mega whales were the e7 audience though...
errnm why is fatalcuck trying this hard to doompost
im not even doomposting thats how bad it is lul
>>527270283>an event that lasts until the 26th of June>that isn't time limited in any way and can be completed in a single day>that even gives 6 ready build characters to complete it with you, only having to fill the remaining slots yourself Reposting twitterfags that can't read is below you bro
>>527271393Not originally, PvP wasn't the focus until they made RTA
>>527268794BUT A SELECTOR WILL RUIN THE GAME, LIKE THE 7 YEAR RUNNING E7
>>527275631It nonetheless is the focus now
This is has been every single one of my multi-runs for the past 3 days and you say that I should be happy about this? I want a fucking speed set on my character. 8 piece sets are worthless until 3 star gear. AND THIS IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE WHEN THEY ADD 4(four)!!! MORE SETS TO THE POOL
>>527277045Amongst those sets is another speed set bro. And it is going to get easier when every piece of gear you will use will have 3 bonuses for a set and the shell you will be using will have another 9 bonuses, 3 for 3 different sets.
It's obvious you won't be able to optimally get what you want until you reach the endgame.
>>527277375Another speed set with reduced drop rate? Hell yeah
>>527277045>>527277375Here is an example. You are gonna want a lot more variety to your gear than e7 so it makes sense for one stage to give you more sets to work with. And this is an example with only 3 set bonuses, some will want to use 4 different sets.
>>527278394i quit because not only is there gear rng theres also shell rng
>>527278610Shells are the artifact equivalent of E7. I much rather have farmable artifacts than having to pull them from a gacha with a 50/50 chance if even getting it, and then having to get dupes on top of that to actually make the artifact usable.
>>527278917Aespa is mainstream now??? Now we should not feel embarrassed about collabing with k-pop group anymore bros!
>>527279552post the ntr webm from 2
>FP goes to sleep
>the doomposting doesnt stop
Who will bake the new bread?
>>527282190erm theres alot of off topic posts that will need to be cleared and made up for before new bread can be baked