New Viscous Model Soon Edition
>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-27-2025-update.66453/
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>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.
>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
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>>526977583
>new model has heavy tf2 proportions
rip coomer viscous mods
>>527267830seriously what is with all the gay pandering in this game?
>>527267960Your first assumption is 'its for the gays' even though women love big buff demon men, goo boys that fill every hole, icy redheads that slipper and slide on the ice and make the sex? FOOL!
>>527268251you're crazy if you think girls like barashit OR that girls even play sweaty games like this.
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Subtle!
>>527267830isn't that literally dynamo animations
>>527268391She's a bit more subtle than she looks, yes
>>527268468yeah, half of the heroes in the game still share the same generic punch animation
open beta july 2026
>>527267830why fat guy? viscous's voice doesn't sound like that.
>>527269445hitbox nerf
viscous has had it too good for too long
>>527268383You would be surprised
matchmaking isn't bad you're just bad lmao
>>527267960How is this even remotely gay or even sexy to begin with? What the fuck is wrong with you faggots, how much did porn rot your brain?
>>527268383He is right you know, besides women (not ''women'') prefer bigger men. Also the picrel is cringe
>>527270234Based Ivy, Geist must suffer
>>527270887Sanest anon poster I've seen in a long time
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>It's a 'lets all sit in jungle for 30 minutes' episode
I love having no item slots and still out damaging a haze on a support build.
>>527270967Its because I'm an Abrams player, ragebait and corruption slides right off my silky smooth brain.
>lash is george of the jungle ALL game, even ignoring creep waves pushing into walkers near him
>was gonna call him out 15 minutes in but think "I'm sure it'll pay off in the end"
>35 minutes in we're losing and he's 1/4 with the second least amount of souls
>repel an attack on our weakened patrons
>tell team to shove lanes and pressure walkers so we can steal urn since we're so far behind
>lash, mirage, and warden all just jungle while lanes are still at our base
>we lose after two of them get picked
>>527270234>40k wraith who sucked up all the farm>is nowhere near the teamfight while his team gets wiped
>>527271956>Pushing up lane instead of engaging in a retard fightHoly fuark...Based
i get games in beta and patience is key im just making criticisms for a hopefully better game
>>527270027no we would not. its for the gays. not a problem but at least make the design a bit more interesting
>>527269291theyre all given the geist idle pose at first too right?
>>527270887sex sells is a marketing scheme since the beginning of consumerism. valve may be a bit classier but theyre not above it. since maybe 10 years ago furries have made theyre way into art teams and it can be seen. hell ratchet and clank has rivet. furry/coomer pandering is now a thing. thats why so many retards think stellar blade is top tier character design. if you wanted to go into why this model of viscous is "sexy" i could try
>>527270027hes talking about girls without dicks anon
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
>>527274246Yes and only twitter clowns would assume anything else
>>527271956>only competent player is trying to push the objective>meanwhile entire team goes to brool without their best asset around and you expect him to somehow teleport there before they are all dead
>>527276047i dont know how to tell you this, but girls on average (the vast majority) are not into videogames and even the ones who are (im not talking about phonegames here) are 90% life-sims/animal crossing players
meaning 99% of fps/dota players are men, 0,9% mentally ill men and 0,1% actual women so there are most likely more troons than actual women in the playerbase
>Oracle II
>Win my game
>Oracle I
Ah, so it's one of those ranked systems.
First game in months, what the fuck is calico and why does she hit like a truck and still move that fast?
>LLWWLLWWLLW?
I wonder what my next game will bring!
>>527273580>no we would not.explain why one of my friend's uncle who's shaped exactly like the new viscous model has a MILF of a wife that everyone in our friend group has jerked off to at least once in their lifetime.
>>527276709These numbers are way off, even women play shooters (esp hero shooters) these days. Yes, there's way fewer of them compared to sims/VN players or whatever, but I get some of these frequently in Deadlock.
>>527277071I feel like currently the only winning strat is to stay as 5, yet I get Rambo wannabees every game, who chase and go to the other side of the map solo, then team fights at a disadvantage and we lose. This is the worst part of low elo, despite all my communication efforts.
>>527273580>no we would not. its for the gaysSelf-report right here
>>527279568Because he used to be lean and with a head full of hair at 25, now they are married with kids, he got bald and fat and she stays around due to sunken cost fallacy.
>>527280002thats what youd think but he looked liked a fat redneck throughout his life and still does.
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>>527280453Know what? Unironically good for them. If she went for this guy despite him not looking like an underwear model its either real feelings or real money doing the work, both is good.
>in asia
>play deadlock
>got sent to a server in chicago
what
>>527276709there are ton of slavshit women playing dota and cs though
I miss the old amber hand patron voice
>>527285563>WELLDONE, BEE BOP!!!
>>527285563>AAAAAAAABRAAAAAMSYeah he was great
>>527277285oh yeah I won by the way what a shocker thanks for the artificial matchmaking yoshi very cool
>>527288623Thanks for your input, time to channel all thin-skinned Haze one tricks in your team, enjoy your losing streak
>>527276709> 90% life-sims/animal crossing playersWomen confirmed smarter than men.
>>527280002>Self-report right hereand?
>>527279568im guessing theres a misunderstanding. i wasnt stating that women dont like a bear. women just dont make up a large enough portion of the gaming demographic, especially for "sweaty games", to justify designing the characters for it. obviously one is fine but more than likely they'll use a single character to cover multiple niche demographics. its just smarter to use a character slot to draw in an already established player base.
this would be like when they pandered for the anita sarkeesians. these people dont actually play games they just bitch and moan the loudest
I've encountered a decent amount of grills on mic actually
>>527291632>women just dont make up a large enough portion of the gaming demographic, especially for "sweaty games", to justify designing the characters for it. obviously one is fineMaybe you are correct on this one since the only attractive male in the game atm is Abrams, but he's damn good. Rest are either ugly/monsters/undead, bland or Lash.
>inb4 PocketFucking hate twinks and femboys, latter deserve to be sent to concentration camps.
>>527292838>Fucking hate twinks and femboys, latter deserve to be sent to concentration camps.Why are people so openly racist to Asians these days?
>>527292930I hate effeminate men of all races, I don't discriminate. Alright I do, just not on this issue.
>>527292672Lets be real, most don't use mic unless in a premade
>>527293385>I hate effeminate men of all races, I don't discriminate. Alright I do, just not on this issue.Yeah but Pocket is Asian that is just his natural state
>>527292838kelvin is a silver fox, mirage has a good foreign/ alt beauty(adrien brody), infernus is a hunk and frank/priest/drifter/doorman/raven are right on the horizon (not in game atm i know i know) and lash is still hot, him being a douche is just an added bonus
wait whats your problem with twinks and fems?
Why does a third-rate gacha game have better character designs than the first original Valve IP in ages?
>>527297190are you gonna post examples or...?
does anyone else feel like the damage numbers from troopers make you miss soul orbs sometimes?
>>527270234looks like it was geist's fault for cancelling the ride
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THE LASH IS BACK BABY.
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Can you experimental branch fags finnaly leak ANYTHING??? fucking reddiots are beating you to the punch.
>>527298382my lash has eyes :)
>>527298382>>527298475why cant they make vindicta have that expression cmon valve
>>527298382Okay this looks good. That moustache is straight up kino
>>527298475If i cut her braid, will she die?
>>527271116>14 deaths>16k damage>22k soulsso they were not farming, they were getting farmed... the only explanation is the inability to aim mixed with feed GOAT status
>>527298382nice
great redesign
>>527273280>entire team fighting at blue walker for no reason>entire enemy team contesting at blue walker>take green walker for free
>>527297301I just did, ape
>>527298382OH NO HE'S HOT
>this many leaks
july open beta is looking likely bros....
>>527294237>KelvinCool beard, still a revenant
>MirageToo cartoony
>InfernusOnly black women like black men, sorry not sorry
>LashHe looks like an NPC now, maybe this could change after his model gets an art pass and starts looking less like a piece of abstract art. Also side shave sucks.
>wait whats your problem with twinks and fems?I hate them, vehemently.
>>527293447Sounds like his problem
>>527299763>Only black women like black men, sorry not sorryNot black demon scum 1 drop rule
>>527299763lash looks like a douchebag copying peaky blinders/ a thug from gangs from new york...which fits the setting and his personality perfectly.
>>527299919Hey, never said his design sucks, we were talking sex appeal which is an entirely different thing. This and his above posted portrait is fucking hilarious and great in equal measure.
>>527299912That's just weird to me, Abrams is a demon and looks like it, size, proportions, coloration, you name it. He even got a cute tail and a custom-made coat to account for this.
Fern is just a black guy with glowy tattoos and that's about it. Even fire magic isn't too big of a deal, a mobster can use telekinesis and teleportation with no demon ancestry whatsoever. Is that because he was born and raised in NY, so his demon features didn't manifest, or he is he supposed to be a half-breed? Or is Abrams just made different?
>>527300646>Fern is just a black guy with glowy tattoos and that's about it. Even fire magic isn't too big of a deal, a mobster can use telekinesis and teleportation with no demon ancestry whatsoever. Is that because he was born and raised in NY, so his demon features didn't manifest, or he is he supposed to be a half-breed? Or is Abrams just made different?He is half-ixian. He has a conversation with Abrams about it and he has never been to Ixia himself. Funnily enough multiple heroes refer to infernus as "the demon" and nobody refers to the actual blue demon as such
infernus needs more bite to him, his personality is....bartender everyone knows and love. idk, kinda boring. even gray talon and viscous have a more compelling reason to participate
>>527300785I guess that moniker sticks given Infernus' criminal and bloody past, while Abrams is an upstanding citizen whose life took a turn to the worst only a while ago due to the magic bullshit outside of his control.
Or maybe demon is a slur, the term is ''mortally challenged persons'' you know.
>>527298475>only remodeled her headand it doesn't fit her voice
>>527301660Brother she has a horse face now, this was 100% needed. Clothing could use more wear and tear, same with animations yes (imagine letting her move like she's half-flying, or her head leaning to the side since she was hanged), but the face is easily the worst part.
>doesn't fit her voiceGive her voice some kind of echo like Invoker got, gg ez
>>527298475Looks like complete dogshit. Expected from Nu Valve and their legion of SBI hires.
>>527301072he needs to be a pimp
>play haze
>win
>play wraith
>win
>play pocket
>lose
>play shiv
>50/50 win lose
>play infernus
>win
>play sinclair
>lose
always most souls and most player damage
>>527298382I can live with it, the hair is good, I'm glad they kept his squinty pugilist eyes. I wish they'd stuck with the fatter mustache, and WHY are they taking away his ascot?! He looks so naked without it.
>>527303950fatter mustache fits warden more, I think it fits lash more to have the trim 'stache
vin model probably isnt done since they havent touched her outfit
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the leaks will continue until I am added to the experimental branch
>>527305223>they made her fatterOUGH
>>527298475if i got into the experimental branch i would just leak everything instantly here
>>527305223>feet untouched, outfit untouchedprobably not finished
>>527298382i really hope they dont mess with his face model too much the eyes bags made him look manly and appropriate for the times. he has a tough face that looked beaten like it belonged to a boxer. but yeah actually having eyes is welcomed
>>527301072there are lines alluding to him originally being a pretty harsh criminal. maybe something along the lines of him suppressing anger or the urge to hurt people?
>>527305223honestly dont like it. its lazy. just throwing interesting effects over it is not quality design. its like when women put those bleach highlights in their hair thinking thatll make them pretty. the original pallid skin with a mysterious sygil on the forehead was more interesting. they just needed to keep the face from looking too stiff.
but yeah total fuckup. if the same retards on the dota art team (new not old) were added to deadlock ima fuggin cry
>>527305223>ywn have a slightly thick trad undead wifewhy even live
>steamroll literally every match
>not ranking up, still stuck at arcanist 3
??
Did they change Abram's shoulder charge? I was getting parried in lane when heavy melee was 'pre-charged'
>>527307479You need at least 2 levels in it now to get a heavy melee hit out of charge now.
>>527307479Yes, the stun duration was reduced to prevent the timing of a heavy melee combo, until you reach T2 and the stun duration is increased enough to allow it (unless the opponent bought debuff reducer lol). You can still do a light slap and they can't parry.
>>527299426yeah i dont see it either. go get laid btw
>>527306498>>527301072>maybe something along the lines of him suppressing anger or the urge to hurt people?He also keeps yapping about his wasted youth all the time. At the same time leaving all of it behind and living a new calm life is a huge part of his character. He has a dialogue with Seven where he claims to not miss the violent past in the slightest, so i doubt this will be a good move.
>>527268251you are beyond inept
>10 out of 26 characters are present in literally 1/2 of total matches
please balance the game valve
>>527305223A complete downgrade, holy fuck.
So did Vyper go to school? Do snake people just exist? Even ivy had an explanation
Do you think Vyper got bullied at school or was she so weird and stupid that she didn't even get that?
>>527309872>Half the characters are present in half of the draftless matchesNo problem here.
>>527309116yeah but if they DO allude toward a lust for violence, the fact that hes in denial, wouldnt that add depth?
but yeah unlikely just a moba character
>>527310186i gotta feeling her only teacher was the streets.
guessing shes an otherworldly creature and if they are anything like our snakes she didnt know her parents and probably ate her siblings.
maybe evade pest control too
>>527310619>yeah but if they DO allude toward a lust for violence, the fact that hes in denial, wouldnt that add depth?he's black so you can't depict him with a violent personality
>rank up from alchemist to arcanist
>players get worse
>matches get easier
ranks in this game genuinely make 0 sense, is it all based on playtime instead of skill? it took me like 100 games to figure out how this game works cause i have never played a moba before but jesus ever since i got out of alchemist every match is just a steamroll instead of balanced
>>527309872Better nerf bebop
>>527310619>yeah but if they DO allude toward a lust for violence, the fact that hes in denial, wouldnt that add depth?Absolutely not, this is a full 180 on what his fluff and visual style dictates. Besides, we have plenty of characters being all about violence, Fern being so laid back while still enjoying setting shit on fire is what keep him apart from other violent psychos like Vind, Seven, GT, Shiv etc and we will probably have another one like Drifter.
>>527311281He is already a former criminal who got off easy thanks to deal with the feds. Good enough.
>>527274246Why do you think I was talking about those? I legit heard more girls in DL tha n my thousands of hours in Dota
Got into this recently, sliding around as a snake is fun. Whats the update schedule like? I see the game "update" in steam often but it seems like it's actually just maintenance or something? Should I expect WIP player models for another 3 years?
>>527314787It gets updates as often as Dota 2 does
>>527314787was roughly once a month for a bit
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>>527314090He is demoralized
>>527312787just turn off rank and its notification it makes zero difference unless you hit high ascendent/eternus
>>527314090ive never heard a woman in dl, ive heard two in dota (across 3k h), about 5 in cs (2,5k h) and ~20+ in wow (also a lot of h)
valorant or ow might have more but compared to the men women that play comp games are unicorns
>>527298382>>527298475>Both are great>think the Ivy WIP picture is very cute>Viper naga look is 10/10>don't mind or generally like the redesigns that were already released>>527267830and then we have this motherfucker
>>527298382this one actually looks great
>>527298382he needs his neck tie thing back but otherwise I like it
>>527298475fake and if real ruined
im conflicted on pocket's change. on one hand i like the new face, but the old one looked pretty funny and unique
>>527314090i see one maybe every 7 matches, guarantee there are more that just dont use a mic with how shit they be playing
>>527319159the new hair looks very stupid
and now he actually looks like a faggot
>>527319319Remember pocket is supposed to be a very young child
>bara abrams
>bara viscous
>bara lash
Who’s next?
I have not played in months
is it true they dumbed down the movement
>>527319387child? isn't he an adult by the time the game happens because they specifically try to kill him as soon as he's able to inherit his dad's company
i haven't read the lore in a while though, i could just be misremembering
>>527314997>>527315249Thanks, I don't play other moba's but I'll compare.
>>527319662Everyone calls him kid so he's probably below 20
WHAT HAPPENS IF WARDEN'S WISH COMES TRUE
>vindicta will be moved to the afterlife
>seven loses his powers and probably dies
>abrams and infernus get teleported to ixia and access to it closes
>goo boy turns into lifeless puddle
>ivy turns back into stone statue
>bebop becomes useless pile of scrap, miss shelly probably dies
>fairfax stocks plummet, maximillian commits suicide
>geist turns into dust
>whatever the hell will happen to geopolitics
>Lash keeps on Lashin'
>>527319724yeah because half the cast is like 30-50, of course they'll call a 18yo dude a kid
>>527319771Seems like the world was successfully changed
>>527319387>>527319662>>527319724>living in hiding for the past 5 years after being shot and left for dead on 18th birthdayat least 23 years old, still relatively young compared to everyone else
gotta say i'm not the biggest fan of the art direction they're moving in
i prefer the more TF2 style phong semi-realistic shading look that was going on over the cel-shaded western anime look that the portraits and models are getting
too clean, too league of legends
>>527319724You are a fucking retard
ok I dont care for infernus
just gonna stick to seven and wraith for bot pushing
>>527319771>IN A FEW SECONDS, IT'LL ALL BE OVER
>>527319159he kind of looks french on the left
>>527298382I feel its too fabulous
>>527298475>>527305223>from cute young ghost girl to alien looking ghost with weird proportions
>>527319771Kelvin dies too.
>>527319319100% agree and he was ugly beforehand too. Zoomer haircut,weird coat. Now he got anime hair and even more faggy facial features, travesty.
>>527319572They removed heavy melee cancel and added proper wall jump, so 1 - 1
>>527319771We don't even know what Warden's wish is. It sould mean as much as ''Patrons fuck off from Earth forever''
>>527305223>>527298382bro just patch the game already
>>527267830I like the idea that Viscous would look like a stereotypical tourist, but goo. Give him a corny ass NYC shirt and shit like that
>>527299001>>22k souls
>so they were not farming, they were getting farmed...Insecure souls. These jungle niggers literally just sit in jungle ignoring everything else and get ganked on repeat and turbo feed the enemy carries and because they lose all their souls they wind up 5k behind a fucking support ivy.
>>527299157>yellow walker pushed all the way up>team wants to do urn>tell them "yellows wide open they're all on that side of the map lets go rat and bait urn">they run it into 4 teamfight ults, get raped and cry that I'm 'farming yellow'>even the bebop on my team agrees rat play was the right playI hate retards so much
>>527307267I was Oracle 2 earlier, won a game and got demoted. Didn't even have a shit score.
>>527319771Based based based based based
The reason Viscous was redesigned from the glob monster is 100% because of cosmetics. They learned their lesson through Morphling in dota 2 that making a hero out of liquid ruins their skin potential.
>>527314787homie this game is in alpha or maybe not even that. youre gonna be waiting a while.
if youre looking for a lootershooter with a bunch of shallow content i suggest warframe. good for grinding
>>527314090that might just have to do with the timing of when the games came out and how trans are more popular in the last 5-10 years
>>527326238no youre just not creative enough
member the portrait with the little pufferfish inside his body?
just sell different models with this, how they manipulate the body to do the skills you press etc
just imagine the little fish inside the goo ball ult swimming in the direction you press fighting against the momentum of the mass of goo
>>527267616 (OP)is there even a point on the patreon dropping nowadays? I don't think I've EVER seen a team be able to push back against the enemy team once they're stuck on their base.
>>527305223BEHOLD... DOWNGRADE
>>527327171in my experience the games turn around at that point since the braindead afk farming people have no more space to farm and are forced to actually play the game
>>527326991Morphling sets are all "random spikes sticking out of his body"
Now Viscous can have clear customization slots for Hat/Clothes/Accessory/Weapon/Pilot, which is better for making cash money.
>>527326991>just sell different models with thiswow anon you got yourself half a cent
>how they manipulate the body to do the skills you press etcthats too much effort for a normal cosmetic and for a characters that will not be that popular ralistically speaking
>>527305223nah go back to the old one, this new look is terrible
>>527327465nobody said anything about price, we dont even know what the system is theyre going to use
dotas system is ass, literal millions of shitty pieces and the only worthwile are the high fidelity and skill-customising ones
>>527305690>>527327623they literally only changed her face, and her old face looks like vladmir putin
the only image we have is complete dogshit quality
the picture you're replying to is a shitty photoshop job over the old model at a different angle
does reporting do anything
>>527298382Holy fucking perfection.
>>527298475>>527305223Holy fucking downgrade. She went from a cute corpse to an alien-looking blue blob.
>>527329334nobody except valve knows
>>527328178>sees woman>thinks of a menare you gay?
even with that low quality its obvious that it looks bad
>>527319159i think the new face is meant to make him look younger/innocent/vulnerable/scared so as to make his life seem a bit more tragic
i like what theyre going for with the hair but its currently dumb as hell in both renditions
>>527326238i dont think that morphlings problem is that hes made of liquid but that hes boring. hes ONLY liquid. theres not much to him. and so artist arent motivated to make cosmetics for him. so if youre sacrificing the original design to make way for cosmetics i feel you already fucked up.
i personally would welcome a design more natural/wild design instead of another monster playing dressup. though i guess everybody trying to look fancy/civilized does sell a feeling of keeping up with the jones or social pressure felt in more urban areas. dont know if viscous would care about social pressure, but i guess he likes pretty things like geist
>>527328178her old models biggest problems is the eyes and the hair. they fix those and she'll stop looking like a real doll. her dress needs a touch up too.
>>527298382So he is no longer a stevedore or what?
>>527298475She looks good, I don't know why people think someone that was burnt to death and came back as a vengeful ghost should just be girl, blue. Still needs the rest of the model to match her new look.
>>527298382he looks gay now
>>527305223I liked the tired femcel look
>>527327903price is innevitable in this and none of what you proposed can bring money with the monster viscous that was in the works
and any idea to change the way the skills look or work would be a big ammount of work for a simple skin/cosmetic that isnt a high tier for a character that doesnt seem to be that popular in comparison with the others
i dont like the new change but cosmetic wise it makes sense why they are doing it
>>527326238>They learned their lesson through Morphling in dota 2 that making a hero out of liquid ruins their skin potential.morphilng would get a shitload of cosmetics if valve actually allowed to change his shape rather than requiring you to add shit on top of his regular shape
not that it matters because his entire model has less polygons than hoodwink's tail, looks like shit, and the hero itself is really not that popular to begin with. viscous is 100% gonna get fucking dogshit cosmetics though make no mistake
>>527328178they only things needed were a higher quality model, fixing some parts of her face and the hair, that was all
i like the bored expression
VINDICTA IS SUPPOSED TO BE 16
>>527328178I feel they should give her eyes pupils still
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>>527267830bro even dlg designed viscous better lmao
>>527331640if her deal was too spook the descendants of the guy that killed her yeah sure go with the bunt body look
but she doesnt do that in game or story
Vindicta's leak genuinely looks too fucking blurry. I don't even know if it's an edit or not because it looks like the body never got changed.
>>527267830>change head to look less like dynamo>turns gooboy into dynamowhy?
>>527333862That is her whole deal.
>>527328178i cant really tell what her face looks lile in the new model
why are these leakers so fucking useless
>>527334427yeah killing them not scaring them to warrant aome ugly burnt victim look
>>527334731>character named after revenge shouldn't be scary????
>>527298475I love her hair but I need a WAY higher res image to get a feel of her face.
>>527334882>character named after revenge should waste time spooking people instead of killing them???
can one of you just drop a high resolution screenshot of the hero select so we stop getting these fucking blueball leaks with 5 layers of .jpg
>>527331847>price is innevitable in thiswhats this even supposed to mean, valve sells lootboxes with skins that range from 3ct to 3k $
>none of what you proposed can bring money with the monster viscous that was in the worksyou lack vision and creativity, ive said it before
all i did was give you one example on how they could make money with this you mental midget
>"uhhhh but you cant sell hats for a piece of goo"why not? man youre stupid
>>527298382>They turned Lash into a faggot as wellHoly kek, this gayme isn't beating the DEI allegations.
>>527335317>character named after revenge should waste time making herself pretty??
>>527335486if you see a guy and think about gay sex thats on you faggot
>>527335486How does that look like a faggot? It's ghe archetypical STRONGMAN look.
>>527331847>yeah the redesign is dogshit but it needs to be dogshit so Valve can make more moneyCan't sell skins if no one wants to play your pozzed game
>>527331824>nowliterally every single chick i've seen react to lash's old model has said he was closeted gay
i think it's just the stache and the scarf honestly. maybe the marine tats?
>hating on Lash's design
This place is hopelessly dogshit.
At least Vindictafags bave the right to.be apprehensive.
>>527335804have you seen the previous model in action or are you a reactionary retard saying retarded shit?
>>527335551>character named after revenge should waste time making herself prettybut she isnt doing that, thats how she looked that before death minus the blue skin
with that logic vindicta should just be wisp with a sniper rifle
>>527335593>>527335621>ummm he heckin looks like a strongmanHe looks like Freddy Mercury, the gayest man to ever live
>sparkles>gayer haircut>gayer moustache Another placeholder model that was better the final one.
>>527336405i forgot that anon knows more about how ghosts work in this universe than the game's writers and designers
>Constantly communicate with team about macro shit
>They don't listen
>They opt to take the fight in between lanes that accomplishes nothing
>They will happily sacrifice all walkers and base guardians to keep doing this for 30 minutes
>>527335464>whats this even supposed to mean,are you dumb? Again it means your idea will not sell you aren't even proposing something just a really vague concept
>i gave one example yeah a really dumb example, wasting time to have multiple different effects and animations for each viscous skin is retarded specially if he isn't a popular character
>>527335924Brother it's like one or two guys 90% of people here called it amazing.
>>527336494>retard>faceblindis this some kind of gay falseflagging propaganda that you can "claim" this character as gay or something? you fags are so weird
>>527336769ive got another idea just from the top of my head, look the new model for his goo punch
bam, 5 dolla, ez money
you are creatively bankrupt and stupid, sorry you have to find out this way
>>527336540something you and that other anon aren't
concession accepted
Is the vindicta remodel still completely new?
Her body hasnt changed at all
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>>527336247>a-a-are you just a reactionary?your reddit buzzwords don't work here faggot.
>>527337170jesus christ why do they keep making everyone's heads smaller
>>527337010see one dumb example after another
>>527335924go back to r*ddit if you want a toxic positivity circlejerk
>>527337301you got any idea how many people would pay to flip other people off ingame?
im a genius, youre a contrarian debby downer
>>527337170so you are a reactionary retard, good to know
>>527337396Nah. If I wanted to be around retarded cucks who see cocksucking fags everywhere then this place is perfect.
>>527337513yes I'm reacting to another dogshit hero design by the DEI devs at Valve.
How could I possibly not react to it? Do you understand your own buzzwords or you just mindlessly regurgitate them?
>Stop reacting to things you heckin reactionary
>>527337650>If I wanted to be around retarded cucks who see cocksucking fags everywhere then this place is perfect.I can see why you like pozzlock so much
>>527331640She was killed at Salem trieals, noone there burned
>>527337170new lash does look quite clean cut which i guess does show a very narcissistic vapid vain side of him. the haircut is dangerously close to a comb-over + the very clean eyebrows which is kinda zoomery
the old model definitely make him look more like a dock worker/boxer/bum
i think i like the lack of eyebrows though. makes him look like a common thug which he kinda is
>>527328178glowing hair and dark eyeshadow. its obnoxious, oversaturated, overstimulating. its like when fat people cant drink water because theyre too used to overly sugared drinks. looks more like an led rgb cyberpunk whore
her old plain simple look fits a colonial girl and looks nice
What does this mean for fhe july open beta rumor
>>527338862nothing
also won't happen even if it was planned because of valve time
is grenade spam paradox viable? i know the current meme is express shot but i like her grenade
>>527338862I actually believe now that it was planned but in typical Valve fashion they couldn't actually meet the deadline so it's been postponed/cancelled until further notice.
They probably intend to go open beta with all those leaked heroes and all the models updated, which is going to take a hell of a lot longer than the small team working on the game can pull off.
>>527339179>>527338862yeah i definifely think that was a true leak
but it wasnt official and probably just valve floating the idea around
i reckon well get a big hero patch first then the final stretch on the road to open beta
did they fix the mmr shit, haven't played since november
how is abams/shiv
>>527339179if you actually believe anything that you just said then i pity your low iq
>>527339080It's like worse kudzu ivy.
>>527337170There is something about left that is just funny as fuck to me. Hope they bring it back as an emote or custom skin or something.
>>527339554not really
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>guy gets tilted in lane
>starts feeding on purpose
>despite the feeding we still manage to hold our own somewhat
>retard notices this
>stops feeding and starts actually trying
>but it's already too late, we can't play past the massive lead he gave them
>just ends up dragging out a shit game even more
This happened at least 3 times over my Deadlock career.
>in line of sight of infernus for 3 seconds
>he does 2k damage from his passive + toxic bullets
>he has zero (0) spirit items (no not even spiritual overflow)
why is this a good idea again
>just buy debuff remover
does nothing since he can just shoot me for 3 seconds and get his passive + other debuffs up again
>>527339554Matchmaking is worse than ever. They refuse to implement a real solo queue or let high MMR players have really long queue times so it probably can't be fixed without a massive influx of players.
Both Abrams and Shiv are both extremely good.
>>527340286id get -attack speed items or disarm for him, something like rusted barrel, suppressor, juggernaut or phantom strike if you like being close since most of them dont want to buy unstoppable
theres no point to them focusing on matchmaking and queues when deadlock is eventually going to get a bunch of shit like all pick, all random, draft mode, etc.
the current system will probably get used for casual quickplay
>>527337513>>527336247You have to be at least 18 to post here
>>527340784Outside of the launch window there's never going to be enough players to support a bunch of different queues. The game sucks and just doesn't appeal to enough people. Millions of people have already tried it and it's lucky to get 10k players a day.
>>527341435A fuckton of china, this game's actual playerbase, still haven't tried it thoughbeit.
>>527341435Just like team fortress 2 will never get an update and you will never be a real woman
>>527341817Team Fortress never dropped the amount of players Deadlock has. The beta for TF2 was huge and it remained huge until release.
>>527342678>The beta for TF2 was hugethere was no beta available to the public, there was a week early access and besides bugfixes nothing changed much for the next year
>>527340509is there any real way to play Abrams outside of just being a tank? This is the most boring playstyle imaginable but spirit or gun can't carry games
>>527343103Abrams gun is actually pretty good though and his shoulder charge lets you shit out a lot of free damage
>>527340673i just do not think having a passive that gives you free extra damage from basic attacks is a good idea
>>527337876so you are a reactionary retard naad you never saw that unused viscous model in action
lmao
>>527343608Well then must be a skill issue on my part
>>527343968eh, its fine
lots of ways to play around it, line of sight, items, abilities etc
>>527328178new head looks like she has microcephaly, and new body looks fat. she's supposed to be a starving teenager from the 1600s, not an obese HFCS landwhale from modern times.
>>527344483there is no new body
>>527344483Body is the same.
Seens like for some weird reason they just changed the head probably to check if people like it I guess.
>>527267960>retarded vindictia gooner porn addict thinks every male that isn't a twink is gay panderingget cancer. you and your tranny ilk are a plague upon gaming.
>>527344764They're working on adding facial rigs to all the heroes so they can test facial animation and lipsync.
>>527344483is the same old body
>>527345073from the two pics we have she looks... wider
or do you know something we dont?
can we get an ACTUAL good look at a vindicta's new face?
>>527319159I honestly really like both so I have 0 complaints.
maybe smooth out the hair to be less "outward pokey" and that's it.
>>527319159he looks like a 40 yo hapa on the right, he looks like a young dude on the left and therefore it fits way better
>>527319159Pockets was supposed to be young so this actually makes sense
>>527344520>>527344764>>527345073Look at her dress, specifically the hem. They did work on the body. She's also a lot wider than before. Anyone who isn't blind can clearly see.
>>527345757im genuinely retarded i meant the one on the left looks like the 40yo
>>527345790Maybe they're setting up for her newer model wbich will have a poofier skirt
>>527345790The "second image" is a photoshop of the first image, they even left a weird light artifact in because they thought it was part of her hair.
There might have been animation changes but the body model is exactly the same.
>>527346039Oh wait is that true? So we don't actually know Vindicta's face?
Thank fuck.
>>527346039just noticed her hair has ghost stink lines all around it
what does she smell like
>>527320421At this rate, the game will have the artstyle of an anime gacha slop game when it releases and reddit will still eat it up
Honestly, I'm just going to self report as a shit player that is just tired of what the game throws at me. But can you guys report this shithead?
https://statlocker.gg/profile/207811034/matches
They have been doing nothing but abusing the hole in the skybox and being annoying that way. I already reported the user through the game, it didn't work, and for some reason if I try to report the account itself in Steam it never loads. Just check any match where she plays as Vindicta. Chances are she did that shit in that match.
>>527346039Proof that the frontal leak is fake?
>hurr it has to be a MOBA with MOBA elements
great, let's see what the common behavior of players is
>Mirage is farming a lane when our last is being pushed, because he wants farm
>you are farming a lane, a teammate zipline boosts over to you to take half of it instead of the 4+ vending machines and jungle camps (he is infernus and can use AOE to quickly jungle)
>hey the small camp off to the side of the lane spawned, time to abandon your lane partner vs. an aggro enemy lane
>our walker is being pushed by nothing but creeps, let me farm this jungle camp real quick
>Our Kelvin is being chased by 3 enemy heroes into us, a group of 5. Let's not take the teamfight and keep hitting jungle creeps.
>Oh kelvin died, guess I'll ping "fall back!" and zipline back to base despite the numbers advantage
>The NPC jungle creeps and creeps in general should be super tanky early game or else we won't have laning. No they represent zero threat 10 minutes into the game, might as well be walking bags of gold for the enemy, this is a thematically accurate way to win a war, send useless shit soldiers that feed bags of gold to the enemy team
Christ this MOBA genre sucks. There's merit to positioning, using skills well, buying correct items and team cooperation, but this dogshit mechanic of "farm" makes no sense thematically and just causes people to act like swine. I'm the fucking purple crown rank and everyone at my bracket just wants to hit creeps
>>527352363the extremely low resolution face leak is real, but the image with the eclipse background is just that image pasted over a different image of her lower body, which is why it "looks fat"
>>527352701So she still looks like shit
>>527352701Vampire Bat won
>>527352701>>527346039Holy fucking cope. She looks like shit. Deal with it.
>>527352443mobas and jungling are retarded, but this could all be solved if you just shouted at your team in voice
>super close to emissary
>yesterday the game gives me nothing but raging teams and genuine retards
>first game of the day its a total stomp for our side, other team didnt stand a chance
ok I guess
We need more leaks on the Vampire waifu already.
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>they kept vindictas long braid
Thats all i needed to know
>>527362742the face is a fucking tragedy.
>>527362795I need a way higher res image to make a judgment call
If she looks younger then kino
Keep the glowing eyes and dripping mascara
>>527362795Her face looks like the Flatwood Monster it's fucking awful. I thought Valve learned that they needed more cute girls in the game but then they turn Vindicta into a bug-eyed alien.
>>527362795Wraith, Miku, and Geist were all made cuter. Maybe if these leakers weren't refards we'd have a better look.
>>527362795looks better than the dogshit it is now at least
First time I've seen an Ivy carry in awhile, poor guy had a team too bad for it to matter
https://statlocker.gg/
Are these stats decent?
>>527367025this site is like 5 months out of date, what useless bullshit
>>527363164>Miku made cuterNo she is a different woman now and nowhere near the VN Miku
>>527367409VN miku just looked like some offbrand tf2 character
Like one of heavy's distant cousins
Stop getting attached to indev assets.
>>527368376There's lots of ways to improve over the placeholder Viscous model, I don't hold it in high regard. but this ain't it.
Vindicta is w/e.
open beta in 2 more weeks trust the plan.
Why does the game get easier as you rank up
Seems like the average rank has gotten lower, finally Phantom feels like less of a meme
I'm the greatest Kelvin player on the planet
>>527369915get worse*
ftfy
>>527362795Her current face sure is, people here are legitimately retarded for defending it
>>527375031Valve should just pull the bandaid off already wirh all these redesigns
>>527337170damn, new lash looks fucking good
>>527329334pretty sure a six stack got me com banned for a week because I said gay fag to one of their players once
>>527368376Just gooned to ivy, felt so good.
So when are we getting the next update if it wasnt yesterday?
>>527387401When it's ready.
>want to play some deadlock
>it's 12pm GMT so it's like peak russian time right now
What do I do?
>>527267830>rip coomer viscous modswhat do you mean "rip"
if anything they're going to peak
>ranked up to emissary
>two back to back oracle games
i think they want me out
Can someone post the Yamato redesign
I'd just like to take a moment to tell the faggots and trannies from the high mmr thread that you should seek christ.
you will never be a woman.
>lanes pushed up
>entire enemy team rotates to stop solo split push
idk bout yous but imma fixing to do some of ours junglin
>1 month and a half AT MOST before open beta
nature is healing
>>527393671Fake rumor btw
>>527393671kek. this game really will die before release if they think its good enough for open beta now
Are people just retarded in not buying counter items?
>>527395645they are following a build blindly
ritualists are the worst and its the majority of games
just had an archon game where I was the only one countering the enemy carry
>>527395776>just had an archon game where I was the only one countering the enemy carryThis always happens to me, rarely do I meet someone that builds counter items and cooperates. I bought Div Barrier to dispel Haze's focus lens because these retards keep going solo and getting killed by her.
Where did this open beta shit even come from
thoughts on this build
am I retarded for liking toxic bullets on her and holliday?
>>527396720Some BR "leaked" it ages ago.
>>527396720iirc some brazilian streamer talked about something big coming in july and that several creators and streamers (including him) got emails for a deadlock event.
>>527398092I tend to just skip to crippling headshot since it also has a 35% healing reduction and requires no build up. Because of Geist's daggers healbane is just so good for her, and you get a nice health injection on kills. Also why wouldn't you just get leech? And I like berserker for hybrid geist
>>527397845Goals:
>Don't get killed (barriers, resiliences, fortitude, stacking 9 HP items)>Make sure your hook targets are killed by your team (Decay, Healbane, Inhibitor)>minimize own soul investment so that team carries get required farm (trophy collector, only one T4) to confirm your hooksCollector provides hook range once it's maxed, enchanter gives a bit of CDR to let you hook more often. Not a very reliable pubbing build, I'm assuming he swaps which barrier he builds based on opposing team comp and yours was gun-heavy, but if he has a good buddy he can rely on to confirm the hooks for him...
>>527299912>brainbroken supremacist retard spergs out in real time
I really dont think july open beta is possible considering the state the roster is in
They have like what 40 heroes already with more planned
Man I love it when Haze and Seven players share the same brain cell. No green items, dies to burst, jungles all game just to give up 1k soul bags.
Despite the soul lead, this was not an easy sailing match.
>infernus constantly sperging because he keeps feeding his brains out (this instance he was doing urn and instead of waiting for us to reach him as we were all trying to, he rushes into bebop and mo and dies instantly)
Fun match though, check out this bebop's hook
>>527362795we need a better look but i like the current one more
just bug yoshi some more so she stays cute
>>527400132I think it might look good just overshadowed by the spooky ghost makeup
Really need a good look at her facial features to get a feel for it
>>527362742i wanted to see her without it
>>527398645thats glass cannon, and we rolled too fast and hard to get leech
>>527400132she's a vengeful spirit hunting down racists. i want her to look more spooky. make her look scarousing. so the first thing youd think when you see her is whether to run away or let her sit on your face
but did they keep her bare feet
>>527400875I don't recall commenting on glass cannon what do you mean. I was just saying that crippling headshot does what toxic bullet does healing reduction wise
>>527400069how do you run into so many nutcases?
>>527402748Doesnt inhibitor also do that though
>>527403729Lurch is that you?
>>527401121nah that is retarded
>>527404267Valve seems to be going for the spookier route
so no u
>>527401121>>527405763He's right, this is gay as fuck to be running damage ops for garbage like nuvindicta.
Let's be real they should've kept this game in the vault until it was 90% complete
>>527305223>>527346039Obviously ain't finished but I see what they're going for with the glow coming out from the collar to give her a classic spooky look like holding a flashlight underneath your face, could eventually look good with a better dress and colors. However I still don't like it and think it loses the appeal of a witch trial victim, they should've made her looked more ratty and dirty to give off the impression of drowning like those witch trials victims did. She should look like Sadako from the ring her character is already taking a large chunk of inspiration from her already.
>>527408724How can someone be so wrong in single comment?
>>527390786>tiny legs and barrel chestif you tried rigging a female model to that skeleton it would look like this
>>527409446example being?
>>5274095831. Salem Witch trial victims weren't drowned
2. Sadako is so overused and cliche.
>>527408516Attention whores can't keep their mouth shut
>>527409841Vindicta is not a victim of the Salem witch trials she is a victim of the Salem witch trials period of time.
Girl in dress with long hair returns as ghost to enact revenge with serial killings is both of their characters. You feeling that the trope is too played out is irrelevant since they clearly already going for it. Especially since deadlock is nothing but trope characters with a minute twist.
>>527410941There's gonna be a Sadako skin within a year of launch guaranteed, no reason to make it the default. Long braid looks good on a flying character.
>>527410941Did you miss part where Patron specifically says ''Eighteen souls joined you in Salem, but today you will have your satisfaction.'' And 19 is the exact number of victims from Salem witch hunt?
At least read bit of lore and about historyt before making yourself look stupid.
>>527410941>A victim of John Hathorne during the Salem Witch Trials,19 people were executed by hanging as opposed to burning, which is a myth made popular by films and books.
>>527411637she should have a giraffe neck then
>>527411574More than 19 people died.
>>527411931Please go read about Salem witch hunt, stop being retarded.
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>smurf on my team
>is actually slaying shit first half of the game
>teammate glazes him hard for going 24/2 as abrams
>says he's high ascendant
>then goes on about how easy this is and wants this to keep going to get more kills
>immediately turns the tide of the game
>doesnt get a single kill afterwards for the next 15 mins
>rages dives in 1v3s and bitches about us not helping
>dc's right before patron drops and gets BTFO
adding "rank" to this was the biggest mistake valve ever did to this playtest
>>527411931>In the year of the Salem witch trials more deaths were caused then the 19 executed. The patron stating 18 fails to capture both the omniscience of the patron and the morals of vindicta if she were to consider the others not worth of also getting vengeance for. Which is fine for flavor text in an unfinished game.Is that pedantic enough for you?
Leakerchad here, ignore that last faker. This is what Vindicta will look like once we head into open beta this summer (september)
I sure do love retard NPC box cat calico vacuuming up all the farm when they are 9k richer than the second person on the team
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Better Lash pics
>fight against mirage
>gun damage: 700
>djinn mark: 900
>three spirit items, none past tier 2
crazy to me how they thought it was a good idea to add this, and then never change it. in fact every new character has some amount of fundamental stupid bullshit that never gets addressed or even acknowledged. i do not think doubling down on bad decisions is good for the game
>>527423254Not a real leak, fan made model based on the leak.
>>527423335djinn mark does 8x proc, at max its either 12 or 16x. if you had ee stacks from someone else youre toast
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I love this lil nigga like you would not believe
Flopping tranny deadcock.
Just shut it down at this point and play Marvel Rivals
>>527432072no real downsides on this item
>can tell I'm getting better
>still not good enough to carry
>>527339931i think he kind of looks genuinely stupid which makes it funny
>>527431392doesnt look too bad. dont know why theyre saturating all the colors though. also does he have sweat stains?
>>527413481speaking of sweat i fucking hate the trend of making everything hard competitive. god what happened to balancing for fun
>>527431392Fake
>>527408516Blame TFtards and their game being full of legitimately mentally ill people
>>527431392WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING THESE
>>527413481Valve added this shit specifically because people asked for it then promptly organised another secret club and stopped caring. This and it improves player numbers slightly by luring in and keeping gambling addicts and sweats.
>>527438228That's not real anon. It's fan made based off the leaked portrait.
>>527400069>Kelvin with cheat deathWhy though
>>527431392fan made model*
>>527444084wish i could do 3d modelling as good as this guy
Honestly we had a pretty easy game, don't know why this french infernus was melting down every few minutes.
>>527446226>why is infernus meltingbecause he is on fire, duh?
Also check this out. This haze got hit by dynamo and lash stop at the same time
>>527446226beautiful viscous ult
I'm retarded, how are people saying Affirmative / No on the chat wheel?
>>527448009they changed it in the settings
speaking of fucking smurfs, here comes shallow
Does matchmaking put you appropriately if you're trying out a new character? I'm really bad at aiming but I want to try playing a character like Mirage
>>527448651yeah playing downvoted characters will match as if you have less mmr
>>527450276*presents soiled nappy*
>>527409452i love these model swaps
revolver ocelot dancing under a shower was funny too
>>527409452makes me think of lady geist
So glad this game fell victim to actual mobility creep and the fed Holliday, Calico, etc can endless run me down with their cancerous kits then just get away with it. Slowing hex only delays the assrape
can you say it with less leaguetuber buzzwords please?
>CRETIN YOSHI IS THE SIN OF SINS
why is poshypop crashing out again?
If a TI Deadlock ever does happen they're going to have to lift people from the Dota community or something because the only 'content creators' left playing this game are either autistic as fuck and have no charisma (Mikaels/Death) or are the most unpleasant swampwater assholes to have ever walked the earth (Lefaa, Vegas, Crayons, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)
I look at who's playing in those Fight Night tournaments and I wouldn't cheer for anyone there.
>>527466941did you forget that TI1 was not shoutcasted?
this game isn't releasing for another 3 years anyways.
>Enemy team stomping us all game with cancerous comp
>They fumble ending and we drop all their shit
>After that they start deathballing looking for picks down a side lane I've been keeping pushed up
>Zoom past them killing two my teammates and nuke their patron with my Haze while they're desperately running up lane
Should have cleaned up lane!
>>527466457he's one plastic water bottle away from trooning out.
>>527466941honestly if deathy just got a hair cut and shaved he could easily pass for a middle school math teacher instead of an autistic mush mouth.
I don't think this game is ever going to take off at this point.
>>527468570I don't see it either. Dunno if it's the art style or just the game being too difficult or what but I think this is going to get a final push from Valve, get ~20k players on open beta, then quietly lose developers until it slowly dies out, eventually never reaching official full release.
>>527468736>get ~20k players on open beta>when the shop update got 20k players while still being in closed betahow delusional do you have to be to think this?
tf2trannies are beyond retarded, you have to actually not play the game at all and just schizo seethepost here to make a post THIS retarded.
>>527428134>if you had ee stacks from someone else youre toastliterally not how that item has ever worked. EE applies spirit amp for the person that applied it. it doesn't amp anyone elses damage.
>>527468965Why did you get so upset?
>>527468965Yikes.
>>527469158The truth stings.
>>527469158not an argument.
I accept your concession.
the amount of people who are interested in deadlock, yet not playing because it requires an invite could probably all fit within a bus. getting rid of invites and going into "open beta" won't bring deadlock to 100k.
>>527469209>Yikes.dilate, twitteroid tourist.
>>527467073https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2011#Broadcast_Talent
??????????????????????????
My guess is 80k peak open beta then quickly drops down to 40k
>>527469513....If Deadlock is lucky
>TF2 trannies exposing themselves AGAIN
why does this keep happening
first the tranny got baited into posting his hours because asking a tf2 fan for his hours is too tantalizing to their primate brains to not oblige.
now they expose themselves on not even knowing basic player number info.
Embarrassing!
>>527432072never nerf this one
>>527469502That guy is retarded don't listen to him. Probably some Valve agent trying to wipe Tobi-wan from memory.
>floplock
is there anything more cope than thinking this game will flop?
>>527472179Love how an entire month has passed without me having heard a single person voice the opinion that this game will flop despite hearing it daily just a few months ago, thank Deathy for leaking all the shit they're working on
>>527472961item update shiny, shiny wore off
game dead, no update
fake version
>>527472179i started playing thursday and im still having a ton of fun with it i think im going to learn how to play ivy next
>>527472961That's because all the sensible people that realized this game is a sinking ship have moved on, I still enjoy the game but I'm not retarded enough to think this shit is gonna pop off at this point. Valve dickriding is pretty absurd, they're a scummy company these days
>>527472961>>527474776because people were convinced that the alpha was the real dev pace of the game
This is the EXACT same energy that was at the beginning of Artifact/Underlords.
>"IT'S A VALVE GAME IT CAN'T FAIL!"
>"This is gonna be huge"
>"It's going to TRULY take off soon"
Those games also had insanely high CCU at their peak with dramatic falloffs. It's just the nature of Valve these days.
>>527478092both of those were considerably less "games" than deadlock is, and had zero potential for expanding their gameplay or acting as a framework for mods
underlords had a turnaround devtime of like 6 months
unironically buying diviner kevlar on ivy right now
i think i'm getting desperate
>>527478092Nah. Everyone agreed that Artishat had dogshit gameplay the more people saw of it. Underlords was a genuine meme project made by a handful of devs because the actual autochess team went on their own way.
>>527472179idk anon
>leave thread for 2 hours to cuddle with my cat>come back>10 postsit's a bit demoralising
>>527478560the scaling is legitimately too dog shit to justify it. might as well spend 6k on siphon bullets.
>>527479489it's a pretty cool get out of jail for free card though, lets you rat like crazy and the spirit + ab duration works well with combo/kudzu ivy
just hit a 6 man affliction
it was meaningless thoughbeit
>>527479129judging the health of a game based on the popularity on this website is not a good idea.
there isn't even a counter-strike thread and ziv is the most popular thread.
the other 150 threads are gacha games.
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>>527480043It probably feels that way but this is way better. Hell, I'd rather just divine barrier myself for 600 and have the dispel for silences and stuff.
>>527480097>ultrawideI was considering one of these but I've heard that most people end up going back to 16:9.
any regrets in the monitor size?
>>527480207Is it fair to say I'm disappointed in the lack of interest on this community? Like I wanna discuss the game with unfiltered people. Check reddit or the discord. Nothing daring to say, ever.
>>527480321not at all, I love it. I don't think I could go back.
>>527480321The issue with ultrawide is how many games actually support it?
>>527480321>>527480546it's really comfortable for deadlock and works perfectly
most modern games will have double letterboxing during cutscenes and 16:9 UI but the gameplay will either just work or be easily patched
>>527480393/dlg/ is probably the only place willing to shit talk the game, probably why yoshi likely lurks here.
re: player count
no skinner box item economy has been applied yet, that's it
>>527479129I aint fucking playing and talking about a game when im not even in the secret club
Wake me up when new leaks come out
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>haze with less damage done than a support ivy
>this is with me giving a 80% ROF buff out
why is there always an anchor and how come I have to practically scream down the mic to get people to pay attention to the map
>play calico
>dont do anything
>walk around the map 100+ times
>literally 1 shot every isolated target
>get 50k souls while the second highest is at 30k
>end the game myself
what the fuck is this character
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>>527486185It's because there's retards like this that manage to make her look bad half the time. It's such a simple fix too. Make it so cat doesn't break boxes.
>invited my friend to the private playtest when he had 0 hours on normal deadlock
>he got in
enjoying the game nerds?
>Halfway through 2025
>Still no incestcore hero in the works
This semen slurping game really is gonna get left to die.
>>527472179I just do not see how it won't flop, but will be pleasantly surprised if it won't
>Yes, the game was abandoned by 95% of people that started playing and the only people that stayed are slavs, Alchemist movement montage redditors and couple of turboautists, but it won't flop because surely the guys in their 30s and 40s will try it out and stay just because it's a game made by Valve!"
>>527488775the what sort of hero
>60% win rate
>148 games played solo queue only
>arcanist 6
rank system in this game makes less sense than in marvel rivals
stomping every single lobby on haze/infernus/shiv/wraith/geist/calico/paradox/warden/mirage/holliday (all the easy characters but still half the roster) and the game will not let me rank up
>>527489339The KYS (kiss your sister) hero.
>>527490661hmmm you should request this on the forums so the devs can see your request
>>527486185Who is Calico oneshotting lategame? Vindicta?
>>527491367anon does not understand the macro combo
>>527493049Can you name a hero that she's 1 shotting?
>>527444084>it took some goober an hour and a half to make a halfway decent new model for lash>over half of the heroes in this game are still using indev models a year+ after public beta releasewhat's the valvedrone excuse here again?
>I've played almost 600 games as Kelvin, I only play him and doesn't seem like i'm gonna stop
>My 2nd most played character is Seven with 7 games
Am I retarded? I just enjoy zooming and beaming/healing.
the fact that geist and mirage have existed as is for as long as they have should be huge red flags for the future of this game
>>527495459sooper sekrit omega alpha beta fixes both of them
I don't know if it's just me but game feels unplayable without fleetfoot. I have worse farm, fights feel bad, chasing someone is impossible unless someone stuns them, and it generally just feels awful to get slowed every time you shoot. Am I overrating the item or is it mandatory on most gun characters just like Boots are in dota?
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>>527496360Ivyfag here. We have fleetfoot passive innately. Probably the justification for shitty base damage.
I think they should buff ivy's gun damage and just give everyone fleetfoot passive and can the item.
>just wanna save people as viscous
>its like they go out of their way to get as far away from me as possible when theyre in trouble
what the fuck is this shit
>>527480393Face it, this thread is full of bait and people why came to cry because they got banned on discord/reddit. I don't care if this will be the next Fortnite (it wont).
I just like this game a lot even in current state while hating OW, LoL, Apex Legeds etc with a passion, so I have nothing to gain from the doomer talk and complaining about heroes/players since I genuinely enjoy the game.
And I feel that every remotely sane person is in the same boat as me, so most talk goes over people's heads.
Maybe if people were just finding and posting cool art threads wuld be more palatable but who knows.
>>527498198>just give everyone fleetfoot passive and can the item.uhh, bro...my burrow move speed and slow resist?
>enemy team realizes they're on meta bully heroes so just spend the entire game in our jungles killing us over and over
kino
I am not buying the propaganda that "Lash is bad in lane" when this fucker nukes you in lane then heals up off the trade with flog.
>>527502385hes only "bad" compared to top tier laners
>>527267616 (OP)Thanks for the solid sauce.
>>527473056>>527474776>No updates in a few weeks means a game mid development is deadHoly shit you people are deranged and retarded, Deadlock is clearly the biggest star of future eSports. How the fuck did you neanderthals figure out how to use a keyboard
>>527502385lash downplaying in the community in general is pretty insane, he isn't op but he's been consistently one of the best heroes in the game
>Buff boxes so you have to loot in between waves while laning
>Every lane is duo lane so if your partner is a bot you get cucked
Bravo Valve
>>527494253he was merely copying an existing model rather than designing a new one
>>527502385Top 5 in pickrate, above average winrate. Lash players are crybullies
>>527504632I feel like straight up removing them would unironically fix the game by discouraging PvE afk farm and nerfing Calico
>>527503857I wish I had a smidge of your optimism pal. Or maybe its your baiting game, no way to tell the difference here.
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I know this faggot is in here. You're so trash lmfao.
>>527466941>the earth (Lefaa, Vegas, Crayons, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)Literally just the NA players (NA scene is always dead in skill based games) so it doesn't matter kek
>>527480097Bit of an airball on the exit. Word to the wise, use your coat before going in and then just press 2 after affliction has been used
>>527484091>why is there always an anchor and how come I have to practically scream down the mic to get people to pay attention to the mapMatchmaking is incredibly unbalanced due to low player count and lack of care (dev time is better spent developing the game anyway so whatever) so there's usually multiple people who have no idea why theyre building the items on their build guide (their item build sucks total cock) or they have no idea why defending spaces of the map is so important etc. For example if you're a phantom and end up in an """""Archon"""""" team that means you have multiple ritualists or emissaries on the team - adjust for whatever rank you are and you will understand why it seems some players on your team have no idea what the fuck is going on
>>527510249the game is 100% going to die because of this. I'm just about to lose my 3rd game of the day in a row because none of the teams are even remotely balanced. it's just me doing well into 5 niggers jungling.
>>527511246They're clearly focusing on their closed-source playtesters again so as long as the full release of the game doesn't have this issue then it should be fine
>>527511302Yeah no the game isn't going to have any sort of reputation left for it to pop off later. Just because this is a Valve title doesn't mean matchmaking can just feed people dog shit anti christ games for hundreds of hours and spring back to life later down the road. These people are going to wind up sick of the game and not coming back. There's no player retention because none of the games even TRY to be balanced.
>the panic healing rite
relatable
https://streamable.com/0jjzbz
Hard countering a big Viper with one item is pretty funny
>>527512931Deserves it for that retarded item build desu
>>527510249>>527511246Game isn't even alive to begin with, matchmaking was hastily made together with the ranks themselselves. I'm completely baffled at how people can recognize this part of the equation
>the playerbase is low and stagnating>MM is unbalanced, ranks are purely cosmetic>ranked isn't a priority for Valve>heroes, items and mechanics need tweaksBut then fail to reach the reasonable and logical conclusion
>rank isn't worth chasing unless you are already a pro player, which is a class of its own
>>527511572>There's no player retention because none of the games even TRY to be balanced. There's nothing to be done about it when there's only 15k people playing the game right now unless you want to wait over 30 minutes in queue.
But you're only partially correct. The major reason why there aren't more players is because there's no progression system, no skins, no custom gamemodes and etc. The game is unfinished and it shows. Most people, like me, want to play a finished product.
When Deadlock officially releases 1.0, then we'll see whether it succeeds or fails. As of right now, if we compare Deadlock to Supervive, another innovative game in development that's a MOBA Battle-royale, Deadlock is doing loads better.
>>527513865we even have ranks, so you cant really speak of "no-progression"
the game really filters all the zoomers who need shiny things delivered to them constantly, for everyone that started gaming before live-service shit playing a fun game is its own reward
i had a dream wrecker got redesigned and he looked like robot
>>527514106>we even have ranks, so you cant really speak of "no-progression"These are also unfinished and broken to all hell
>the game really filters all the zoomers who need shiny things delivered to them constantlyBut these are Valve's main target demographic and Valve are too lazy to do all of this themselves. Treasure the unfinished feel of the game while it still lasts, before the dark times, before the community-made hats arrive.
>>527514279>These are also unfinished and broken to all helli dont care, game works, its like 50/50 of decent match/stomp-getstomped and this is fine for me
>>527514539Yeah same, just don't take the rank seriously and play your best. If you are good enough you will somehow rise above the elo hell.
>>527514568why do people not hotkey levelups? just set it to alt+skill
always cringe when i see mikaels also clicking his shit, its so slow
>>527514568You know the little detail I absolutely adore in this game? If you spam ping something it adds more exclamation marks to the chat wheel phrase.
>>527514106>>527514539Let's be real, do you really think the casuals, the main driving force in every live-service game, will see that as progression? That's a gamemode only sweats play.
So no, Deadlock currently has no progression.
>>527514963game is in alpha, im glad we can even play
>>527514963>will see that as progressionyes unless you are a retard
I miss 4 lanes
I want 4 lanes back
>>527514782I switch between them. Not sure why, I think I sometimes use my mouse to level up when I REALLY don't want to take a finger away from WASD (like when I'm moving). I see a lot of high level players click as well. Maybe it's just FPS fags like me who prefer clicking icons over hotkeying. Like I notice I level up with my hotkeys if I'm aiming or looking for a shot. Also I guess there's the issue if you bungle it you might accidentally use the ability when you press 4 trying to level it up
>>527514806honestly I love all the interaction details in this game. Like heroes having nicknames for each other or characters having their ability lines change if they're on critical health
Like Holliday's crackshot lines are pretty lame, not very cowboy-y but when she's low and she lands a crackshot she says a very strained "bang..." which I like
>>527515731broooo bro no you dont bro
remember ganks bros?
broooo you dont miss it broo ganks broo
>>527517701I don't miss losing the game because some idiot gave Yamato (or any similar hero) 10k souls in the first 8 minutes
>>527515745Yeah, heroes having different phrases for full and low HP is another great one.
Also Abrams saying "I can't believe this worked'' and ''This is just not your day'' when breaking Seven's ult with his own makes my day every time.
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>>527519598>Geist kills calico>"urgh, she smelled like new money"
>>527520004Ugly slop design. This is what valvedrones consider sexy?
>>527520587>Ugly slop desigI'm sorry, valve ran out of your favourite nigger paint.
>>527520587stop jerking it to children and go get laid. or just do your family a service and rope yourself.
>>527520004she says the same thing to wraith yeah? i still really wanna hear her exchange with vyper
>>527520004Her being absolutely smug while Vindicta is seething at her status and her dark powers is even better
>yeah I'm rich and can afford breaking whatever rules led you to be killed>and there's nothing you can do about it pleb
>>527496360it's mandatory in gun characters that want to chase that may not have great chases in their own kit
which is actually not THAT many heros, but you can just build them to chase with fleetfoot
it's more of a playstyle thing
Adding Kinetic Dash + Stamina Mastery to my build has completely refreshed my interest in this game. The mobility is so fun that I can't go back
>warden with 1 orange-fleetfoot
>deletes shit his gun
>>527522567>low rof>low mag>lowest velocity in the gamehis gun better fucking hurt
>>527521428>she says the same thing to wraith yeah? In one line she does, then Wraith talks about earning her money through crime, but at least its was earned and not inherited. In another these two have a girly talk about hats.
>i still really wanna hear her exchange with vyperDude please, Vyper's best lines are her roasting the fuck out of Calico and her failed assassination job so hard, Calico drops her pretentious tone altogether. There's a bunch of those cool dialogues out there:
>Seven claiming he wants nothing to do with Abrams' book>Dynamo threatening Wraith if she tries to get his students into gambling>Vindicta calling out Ivy's reluctance to kill as complete retardation which will get her and her adoptive family killed soon
>>527522641i think im in love with vyper. honestly hope they make her ugly so my love for her personality is validated
but yeah when she said Wisconsin hooch is top shelf i laughed pretty hard
does anyone have a link to the mod with like 6 different heroes as morbidly obese pastel-colored furries? I saw a streamer using it
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>>527523774>honestly hope they make her ugly so my love for her personality is validatedOh I agree, she's a skaven with scales and its superb.
>but yeah when she said Wisconsin hooch is top shelf i laughed pretty hardI have no idea what she's always talking about but its funny as fuck. Tho the funniest one I've heard recently is Abrams offering Vindicta money to buy shoes and stop walking in NYC barefoot
i wish it was easier to see a hero's weapon scaling like in dota, gun mo just has terrible dps no matter what you buy
>>527526387Mo players don't deserve anything so that's good
>>527515731>i miss having one or even two lanes being a guaranteed guardian and walker loss at the 12 minute markno, no you dont
>>527527772This is still a thing
>one of the longest telegraphed ults has a double-jumpable AoEs
I barely even play Abrams and I think that's a fucking crock.
>>527528623The reall bs is that you can't drop with it early, or at least earlier. So its unusable anywhere outside of few open areas and even there enemy can just scuttle away. heavy punch + debuff reducer is your real ult
>>527528538it was worse with the extra lane tho
>>527493805everyone except Abrams and Shiv. You have to remember that there are barely any items that reduce melee damage and calico gets to land 2 free light melees every time slash is off cd.
>>527521702She's like in so many interactions lol
>Holliday: You've done some horrible things and after this is over I'm gonna find out what >Geist: pffft yeah good luck lol
Stacking a lot of movement shit on Warden and going super sonic speed with ult is so much fun
Doesnt do much but I laugh my ass off when people scramble and run away when I turn into a hyper mobile Roomba
>>527530615my favorite part is this mobility build offsets Fury Trance's weakness (no stamina use)
This game has tricked me into thinking I'm good at aiming by giving me a few free wins on Mirage. I'm not getting a positive KDA on him so I'm not being fooled Valve
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OUR BLUE COCKER IS UNDER A FAP
>>527319572Yes and no.
> Zipline techs nerfed pretty hard> HMC gutted (I miss it so much)> Wallsliding added> Walljumping overhauled, no longer increases air drag > Mantling now requires forward input towards the ledge instead of looking in the vague direction of a ledge while jumping> Can now accelerate and slide off a mantle by holding crouch> Air strafe control substantially increased> Cornerboosting nerfed, but is now an official featureGeneral gist I'm getting from Valve is that they want nuance to movement, but they don't want it to be from esoteric bugs and hidden mechanics. HMC was a special case where as much as I loved it, it was kinda game breaking. Gutting it is too extreme of a measure though, it definitely can be balanced.
>>527532840They only nerfed HMC so hard because the NA faggot streamers kept crying about it
>>527530135>She's like in so many interactions loloh wow, she is. guess shes one of the flagships. how many other videogames sport a vapid classy bitch as their games poster girls? cant be that unique. but i guess its a safe bet
>>527532840cornerboosting is still very esoteric desu
>laning
>all of a sudden you hear GIVE ME YOUR SOUL and geist is slapping your teammate in the ass with oathkeeper
what do you do?
>>527352443I wish jungling was removed at this point. I'm also in archon, I can fucking destroy anyone here in a fight so hard that I get accused of smurfing, but then all these afk farmers outscale me to even out the skill difference. Nobody is happy in this arrangement. I now have to partake in afk farming because if I don't, the enemy team will eat my farms and tard through me with a soul gap. I hate it so much.
This shit happens in every rank too, apparently it's also a problem in the top ranks. Every rank has players that are complete dogshit, but they just afk farm all day to make up for that. I want to fight players that are actually good, but they're so rare. Everyone has shit itemization, shit coordination, shit movement, shit teamwork, and shit aim, but man shooting at those neutrals is so skillful am I right, guys? Should I just go faceit at this point?
>>527533194You wish, the poster girl for Deadlock is Ivy which is fine don't get me wrong, unless Valve cutifies her. This or haze since she's one of the most played heroes and is also on the loading screen
>>527533194That's a misprint, I meant to say "she's like this in so many interactions". Many "good" heroes will say shit like "you're a monster!" and she's just like "so?"
>>527533502Yeah, but it's now a lot easier and makes a unique sound. I still would have never imagined that they would gut HMC and keep cornerboosting. It should've been the other way around.
>>527533164This sounds like unsubstantiated rumor, but I'm going to choose to believe it because I fucking hate streamers and how devs give them special treatment. They're such babies.
>>527535368Seven eats her for breakfast tho since he is an even bigger monster while also having the brains to backup his schemes rather than having a back alley deal with a powerful creature and hoping it works out. Don't get me wrong she is incredibly vapid and self-centered, but this kind of approach is catching up to her, so her turning to Patrons for help is an act of desparation.
>>527535721>devs give them special treatmentDamn right. Remember how Valve altered how reports in higher rank Dota2 work due to some fag (was it Arteezy?) cried about being kept in low prio que because of troll reports?
Probably said this before but
>seven has an intimate hatred for kelvin. implying they have past affairs. kelvin also finds seven "familiar"
>seven and kelvin both have interest in the astral gates
>kelvin assembled a team for a voyage to a new astral gate. it was made of the brightest minds. seven is quite smart. and might have been apart of this team
>during a fundraiser for the voyage one of kelvins friends, edrick, made a scene. possibly opposing the voyage or choices for the voyage. apparently whatever kelvin did to upset edrick was bad enough that kelvin believes edrick has the right to kill him.
>seven is fully in support of revenge for the other characters and the shop keeper even comments on sevens revenge and rivals
>seven at some point loved someone enough that he'd sacrifice his humanity for power
HEAD CANON
>seven is edrick (pretty much accepted)
>seven had a disagreement with kelvin. this could have been over theories, science, ethics and the expedition or this might have been over someone seven loved, possibly someone also on the expedition team. since everyone on the team died seven harbors a strong hatred for kelvin
>more likely its the former. not a lot to support the latter (sevens love could have been kelvin for all i know)
>maybe after a disagreement between seven and kelvin, seven went to work for the osic
>seven wasnt captured for a serious crime. while in osic employ he did something he wasnt supposed to that crossed a line and osic tried censoring the whole scenario. that or they baited him in with promises to help in his research
>edricks disappearance was seven being thrown in lost whisper
>seven want to become a god for a loved one. possibly to revive the dead
>sevens love could also just be for knowledge and understanding
>>527541003head-canon: seven's love was some scientist chick sent on a doomed expedition by kelvin (unwittingly). edrick loses it and becomes seven understanding that the accumulation of occult power can raise the chick back from the dead (and other evil stuff because he's lost it)
>>527535254i said ONE of the poster girls, well flagships but whatever. im sure valve will have multiple posters like they did for dota 2: lina, morphling, bloodseeker, drow ranger
>>527535368oh oops. well point stands
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>>527541003>massively evil edgelord is actually just hopelessly lovepilled to the point they don't care that they have become monsters to get their loved ones backkino if true
>>527534543It truly is baffling Valve made it this way, brawling is so much more viable in Dota even in farm metas but they make a fucking third person shooter a farming simulator. What is the point of fighting when at 25th minute you win a fight and get less souls from it than clearing one wave and one big neutral camp? Just comical. And it simply does not *feel* right.
>it's a dynamo that doesn't buy warp stone and gets 0 good ults off episode
every time
>>527490037I was on a win streak of 11 games before they pushed me up from arcanist 2 to 3. Ranks seem almost static and meaningless, but maybe I'm just an arcanist scrub.
>>527542754From what I understand, the soul yield will always be ordered as something like
> Objectives> Troopers> Kills> Jungle/boxesI think the idea is that if it's prioritized this way, then players would be incentivized to end the game, but in practice you can push waves and jungle at the same time. Nobody pushes objectives or fights because it has risk and turbo farming is more steady income. Either jungling needs to be a risky activity that attracts fights, or they need to make jungling actually fun for all players so afk farmers don't become server admin when nobody else farms. I don't care how they accomplish either, but this farming meta needs to die permanently. It actively makes the game less fun. I'd genuinely take the old brooling meta over this cancer we have now.
>>527541003Its a very interesting and a likely premise, but Seven is completely and utterly psychopathic. He even admits to Abrams that what got him into Lost Whisper was ''offending powerful people with fragile egos''. He also believes himself to be a visionary, whatever he means by this.
Even if love was a driving force for him once he has lost his marbles long ago.
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>>527542754Valve will do what they did to Dota2, mark my words: devalue creeps and jungle, focus on brawls. They nerfed neutrals once already, just need to nerf boxes too.
Just had a very unfun game against a bunch of slippery fucks. Ended up just spamming a bunch of actives and silencer + ricochet in an attempt to stop them from using their slippery bullshit. Not fun at all.
>>527548078knockdown
sounds more like your team wasn't coordinated enough to make any picks stick though
calico is the marvel rivals spiderman of deadlock
>best mobility in the game
>melee
>insane carry potential
>no such thing as a decent calico, they are all dogshit or carries
>completely invincible in low ranks
think calico joined the baxter society because otherworldly creatures kept eating her cat?
do you think cats are a delicacy in otherworlds.
do you thinks thats why cats are thought to be able to see the paranormal and strange
so that they can run and hide from it
>>527554803i'm tired of calico haze wraith visc infernus in every single game
>vindicta geist lane
thanks valve
>>527556285If you think this is bad try Mirage + anything or Kelvin + anything
>>527557063worst is kelvin + shiv, I think that's considered the top pair in pro play too
6 more weeks bros just hang tight
If a lash tries to ult you just say "no" out loud and it won't work
>>527558540Shut the fuck up
>https://steamdb.info/app/3488080/history/
>got updated on a weekend
>play calico
>idle 2/3 of the game like a roblox simulator tycoon
>get every box on the map 2-3 total times
>have 25k more money than everyone else in the lobby
>delete the vindicta that is carrying the enemy team
>win
love my calico macro combos
>feeding lash
>feeding magic man
>support cuck eskimo nigger with zero dmg
>permajungle seven with 0 objective dmg
>>527558540It's been about two months between patches so six more weeks might be right.
parrying melee-scaling abilities does nothing right?
>>527563228You can only parry puddle punch at the moment
>>527563632Calico's claws should be parryable
>>527558540>>527562995is it the hero patch finally?
>>527564651What else could it be
We got the map
The items
Only thing else theyvcpuld add is alternate game modes and turbo
>>527565442>Only thing else theyvcpuld add is alternate game modes and turboOh please
>proper secondary map objectives>metro layer of the map reworked>jungle and neutral creeps reworked>reworks of heroes, whos mechanics were inherited from Neon Prime>more movement tech>alternate guns for heroes>add siege creeps, buff walkers and guardiansI'm sure people can name even more, and new heroes are being added very slowly anyway
man I just wanted to fuck around and test a build in bot mode but they even fucked that up, crazy
>>527566427>>alternate guns for heroeslike what?
Do you think heroes will be free on release?
>>527566427Map gets updated piecemeal
>>527565442Sure, if you're going for minimum viable product. Deadlock's got a lot of potential to be more than "just a MOBA."
>>527560764only once per day, we're still at least 2 weeks off
when you see 4+ updates a night it's within the week
Its going to be a new hero wave and redesigns/reworks
Then we get the jungle and creep patch
I don't care how long it takes for them to cook up new heroes, as long as it means they're not adding more cancer like mirage or calico. Give me unique heroes with interesting mechanics, I'm tired of all these flowchart mobaslop heroes that are tedious to play against.
>>527565442experimental gamemode? they are sticking to 3 lanes and aren't going to change much of how its works or plays so maybe reuse some assets for a koth or maybe a ctf kind of map you alrrady have the urn as a base for that
>>527534248I press the rescue beam I bought 2nd item
>>527563737>claws parryable>cat no longer breaks boxes>ult nerfed to 25% move speed bonusI fixed her.
>>5275688623v3 ctf except urns sounds kino desu
>>527569173Its like every skill Calico has is an abomination one way or another. Which is a trend for most ''new'' heroes. Maybe the real way to balance this game is to bring everyone else up to her level?
>>527273280>>527276446retards defending that wraith who didn't even really push the lane, just cleared a wave and went back to jungle/box
>>527569173yeah this is fine so long as gun builds are nerfed into the ground
what the fuck is matchmaking
>>527569203>8v8>players are max level>they either start with a premade build or more than enough souls to make their own build>reduced item slots to avoid giga cancer from the beginning>lower the respawn time
>>527574021>build support>everyone on my team afks in jungle on T3 camps while we lose everything
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I'm surprised it took this long for everyone spam fucking rescue beams. Fuck that item it's always been bullshit. Keep the pulling ability but remove the heal and make it 1600, won't be so fucking annoying anymore
>>527574709It was always overshadowed by healing nova back when it was a tier 2.
created a new account to test the matchmaking, I think valve is running bots or there's literally hundreds of cheaters which make up the top 500 players creating extra accounts and playing on them. I was consistently top 150 on my hero before and it's placed me in emissary and then it's now just placing me in completely unwinnable games and dropping it even further
>>527570875>Maybe the real way to balance this game is to bring everyone else up to her level?Just remove her
No one likes her design anyway
>>527575558>top 150means absolutely nothing
how long do games take nowadays
I haven't played in months
>>527567031I don't think heroes have a gun name and a gun profile for nothing. There definitely would be some kind of alt weapons like in TF2. Or I hope so
>>527575550Dumb nigger alert
>>527522641for me, its viscous annoying the fuck out of seven
>>527574616holliday is cutest girl but still 2nd best girl
pretty good just torso and tummy look kinda fucked
>get annoyed at team mates being retarded and afking in jungle every single time we kill like 4 people because this is like the 20th fucking game this has happened in this week and I'm sick of it
>comm banned because they mass report
tell me how this game is meant to get fun if no one can be put in line when they grief
>>527578528its a moba, that shit is a staple for this genre
>>527578834It shouldn't be. It fucking sucks, and is not fun.
>>527577347that could work but i dont see them going the tf2 route with them being sidegrades with some wild amd different effects
>>527579023blame the genre
that and its a f2p valve game, which attracts the biggest fucking retards, look at tf2
>>527578528calm down and realize nunna this mattas
>>527578834moba is a game mode. if they just made a less sweaty game mode that didnt put the pressure on to perform, people might enjoy
>>527578528if you don't like it then play with a full stack
your woes are entirely self inflicted
Damn, turns out I suck both at the game AND at crafting builds. Should I just copy what pros build or what?
>>527578528This and solo idiot going right into the paws of the enemy team is how 90% of my lost games are going. Sticking together is too hard for this people even if I win lane.
>>527579442I dont think asking to find 5 more people to play Deadlock with is realistic.
>people genuinely thinking the game would do better if they removed the moba aspects of it
not only is that market ALREADY even MORE cornered than mobas at the moment, but the hero kits are so based around the idea of levelups and item builds that it just wouldn't fucking work for most of them. I agree that it would be a more fun game than what we currently have but there's absolutely zero (0) chance we get that shit. The only reason they decided to remove the lanes was because that was less work than trying to make 4 lanes work. That just isn't applicable with removing the moba elements as it currently stands.
I repeat though; the game won't do any better if you casualized it. That market is too cornered at the moment.
>>527580010entirely viable. there are plenty of game modes in dota 2 plus custom games. especially turbo mode
you have no idea if it would do better because youre not a prophet youre just full of yourself
bye
here's your lane partner bro, surely you can win lane with this retard right? EM* game btw
>>527580010then dont remove it, it can stay as the main mode, but add custom or more casual ones like bebop wars or a sniper map for vindictas or something else
>>527580416Fuckton of people play turbo too
I think the better question is: Warden, cut or uncut?
Unironically I would play more if matches didn't last 30+ minutes
>>527579616>I dont think asking to find 5 more people to play Deadlock with is realistic.It's not. I laughed when I read that.
>>527574021>Haze>Talon>Infernus>Abrams>Against that compYou lost in draft bro
>>527584798?
they dont
longest match ive had was like 34 mins
its a rollfest
what are the best rat gun items
>>527588338Sharpshooter decimates walkers, it's core of my splitting rat Ivy build.
obviously Cultist/monster rounds.
Titanic mag
>>527588338heroic aura is pretty good early to secure walkers. 60% ROF on your creeps is actually massive. the creeps chunk towers.
>play with friend who's new to the game
>every match is a shitstomp on either side because there's a 30/0 haze or vindicta with a VAC ban while others just hold W to walk everywhere and go back to base every 30 seconds to heal
>>527532840>> Can now accelerate and slide off a mantle by holding crouchI did not know this, neat.
>>527580416look at how long the deadlock team currently takes to do ONE big change like the maps one and then ask yourself just how the fuck are they supposed to do something like turbo within a reasonable timeframe (because you fucking know they aren't gonna bother releasing the game with a casual mode on it)
it's not good mind you but that's just how shit valve is.
>>527582795see above for a casual mode, as for
>bebop wars>sniper mappeople don't play L4D or TF2 or DOTA or Overwatch for the arcade modes. only a fraction of the actual playerbase is interested in those.
>>527590960in it's heyday half of TF2's population was on trade servers or maps where they don't play any objectives and just deathmatch or fuck around
>>527590960>people don't play TF2 for the arcade modes.a lie, people are stuck on the 24/7 servers or in 2fort where they dont cap because its the unnoficial deatmatch mode
>>527590960>people don't play L4D or TF2 or DOTA or Overwatch for the arcade modesI dont know about OW but all those other games still have tons of players
>>527593662dota arcade is a little underwhelming, i hope valve does a better job promoting custom games with deadlock
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This game is just 'who got the 2-4 anchor retards who will sit in jungle post 10 minutes forever and feed bags'
DED GAME NO UPDETS DEAD GAMMEM FUKCING HELL VALVE TRAPER HAS BEEN IN HERO LABS AND I CANT FUCKING PLAY HIM ANYMORE FUCK FUCK
>>5275918572013 was 12 years ago now, you can thank valve for effectively killing that entire community in one single swoop.
>>527593545you can literally check right now and the amount of people on those servers are less than the people currently playing deadlock right now
>>527593662i'm only talking about the arcade/gimmick servers/mutations, not the regular gamemodes
What official alternate game modes would be kino in deadcock?
>>527595770>the amount of people on those servers are less than the people currently playing deadlock right nowdoesn't mean much, the amount of people using TF2 matchmaking is also lower than the number of people playing deadlock right now
the characters and movement in DL have a lot more potential for custom gamemodes than even dota, since you're controlling your hero directly
>>527596313hide and seek 1 vindicta vs 6 tankBVLLs all juiced up with colossus
>>527596626>the characters and movement in DL have a lot more potential for custom gamemodes than even dota, since you're controlling your hero directlynot to mention there are loads of skills and item effects you can mix and match tonproduce loada of modes
the big thing missing from the game currently is just more creeps and general assets you can use for custom maps
sucks being a middle of the line shitter none of my wins feel earned they're just stomps in my favor fuck this matchmaking
>>527596313bowling, it's already canon
use viscous ball physics and have crazy lanes with obstacles for bonus points
>>527565442how about an actually engaging jungle instead a billion boxes and 3 sharting eyes
>>527597926they should replace the boxes in interiors with china displays that serve the same purpose but can't just be rolled through and require aim, maybe add bad pots that debuff you if you break them
put some actually threatening neutrals beside them too, so they aren't free
>>527598172Mutated rats, living grimoires, and maneater plants in the streets
Tentacles and sewer crocs down below
Giant ghost pigeons, wind spirits, and harpies up above in the rooftop
YOSHI I KNOW YOU READ THESE THREADS
Hotfix calico so she gets hit with a 80% slow when she runs through a box. This shit's gone on for long enough.
>>527598591no this is a retarded bandaid fix and kelvin and mo can boxfarm hard too, just nerf them again. box running is so fucking stupid and makes an already complicated game for noobs even more retarded. box running isn't even interactive, id argue it's even WORSE than regular jungling. also adds a gay rng aspect to the game as a whole
>>527596626>>527596996you guys are forgetting ONCE AGAIN that this is valve and they're the laziest fucking AAA developers on the planet. even blizzard puts them to shame
>>527600114the fact that they're the laziest developers on the planet is exactly why they'll have custom game support, TF2 and CS2's live service updates are entirely carried by community-made maps, same with all of dota's skins. plus if they get something like autochess which takes off and makes millions of dollars, they're in a position to make even more by poaching them.
>>527600029It's a tower from New York City, the joke being that New York sucks.
>>527600114Its the fact that they are lazyfucks that custom games are a given
>nu valve even establishing the framework for this dead game to get custom content
kek
yoshi didn't check the forum once on father's day. you know what that means?
that's right, he's dead
>be wasted
>play viscous
>win
shrimple as that
>>527601724don't bother, they're newfags
>thousands of women cosplay hoyo characters because their character designs are top tier
>nobody is ever going to cosplay troonlock characters even after full release because all the character designs have their roots in budget concord and changing them would invite backlash from their slavic/tranny playerbase
Feels good man.
>>527601724Half Life Alyx got workshop support abd that shit was just a singleplayer VR game
>>527601724Theres no way valve can manage three liveservice games with their manpower
Custom game support is a given
>>527605593they put effort into a flagship vr game? color me surprised
Can they nerf gun meta already?
>>527603987least deranged nigger poster
>>527603987I never understand how the internet is flooded with women cosplaying cute sexy women and western devs just constantly pump their games full of ugly ass female characters.
Did leftism really brainwash them so hard they're willing to tank their companies and games just for politics?
Like no woman is ever going to cosplay fucking Calico or Haze because they're ugly. Vindicta maybe but she's also becoming ugly per the leaks. Geist maybe? But Geist is super fucking old. Even with her backstory being that she sucks souls to remain young she still looks like an old hag.
They just don't get it I guess.
thank god heroes like calico and holliday can just exist all over the map and rape your asshole constantly
>>527607272>they're willing to tank their companies and games just for politicsdid you miss the whole thing about companies getting premium for DEI and diversity hires?
>>527608679Yeah but then those games ever rarely succeed. Games like Forspoken or Concord or Saints Row any of these other games with shitty looking characters have the company immediately go under and have everyone fired.
Is it just the higher ups that pocket the money? No way does everyone get a slice or you'd hear more of it.
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>>527607272I want to believe
>play seven
>shit on everyone lane phase
>outfarm wraith and haze since t3 camps take 15 seconds to destroy at 12 minutes
>w+m1 walker
>team sucks so match doesnt end at 20 minutes
>late game
>ult
>everyone hides or dies because unstoppable goes brrr and nobody buys knockdown
>win
this character is mind numbingly easy but i have literally never seen a good seven player before, are they all just in the high ranks? the only downside this character has is a giant head hitbox
>>527609267I dunno I'm not super high rank but hover around Phantom and I see Sevens hard carrying often. His only downside is no real get out of jail free card, otherwise he's far more versatile than someone like Wraith simply because he can splitpush, dominate teamfights, and is actually a pretty strong 1v1er
>>527609267seven's ult is so easy to cuck with basic counterplay items it's not worth it
the average retard just farms up to 50k at 20 minutes and keeps starts feeding 5 18 after cucking the whole team out of jungle
>>527609267I sometimes sandbag games by rushing echo shard stun and lightning scroll as seven just to make everybody want to kill themselves.
>>527609267Sevens ult is a retard magnet and doesn't attract shmovement players that can abuse his passive speedhacks
>>527610439> doesn't attract shmovement players that can abuse his passive speedhacksHe walks so fast that shmovement is slower. Like you said, he's a retard magnet.
> t. Movementfag
Speaking of speedhacks, I miss turbo grandma
probably the funniest and most absurd thing I've seen in a video game getting two shot from across the map by this abomination walking at mach 10 speeds
>>527609601>rescue beams seven to younothing personell
>>527609001Ivytroons are already going to nuclear once she gets remodelled
>>527612316her head and hair are low-poly
torso doesn't look organic enough
tail needs more detail and a proper attachment point instead of that hack with pants
in general she needs a retexture
>>527609001Vampire bat already feels like halfway into full on pandering.
I don't remember any Valve game ever having a teenager wearing a short skirt and thighhighs.
>>527612775>a teenager wearing a short skirt and thighhighsdota?
I would think she's more like early 20s though
>>527613003She is a maiden...
>sexualizing human minors
you know the audience they're going for and mokrill doesn't really fill the quota
>>527613323Women love to sexualise animals that cannot consent thougheversobeit
>>527612824>>527613003Crystal Maiden is the closest and even then they play her up as a legit psycho.
Bat is unironically portrayed as a brat.
what if urn spawned in the underground area?
>>527614091You mean the area below blue that is above the mid boss pit?
>>527613323Human minors are a staple MOBA archetype. They also tend to be the most fun to play.
>>527614284no, I mean the tunnels with the secret shop and stuff
>>527614475The tunnels definitely need a creep camp
>>527336494eh. Freddie fucked good looking people men and women, the men part was the mistake because of aids
Love going against smurfs on Shiv, shit is actually mind numbingly broken
>>527614554>a creep campyou have 2 teams of those
There's nothing wrong with matchmaking
>>527588338glass cannon lucky shot
>>527588338ricochet with stacked debuff items
People who want underage-looking charactes in the game should be taken out back and shot
>>527616216-a serviced on the spot?
>>527616290Yeah, serviced a bullet in the head alright
>>527616694is that a code phrase for cumming in a child's mouth?
We need a big underground BROOL room that isn't just the midboss one.
niggerbitchsisters...we're broken heroes
>remove camps and boxes
>add an underground brool dungeon on each side of the map with 2 huge soul pinatas and some smaller creeps spread out
game fixed
>>527617478Warden mogs both
>>527617721Warden definitely goes out to the harlem slums on the weekend to colonize some bitches
>>527617721Warden exclusively fucks black women
time to change the world
For his eventual remodel should warden stay a cop?
>>527618891They should change Warden into one of those classic 80s perverts that wear a trench coat with nothing underneath
Then when he ults he flashes his wiener at his enemies for X seconds.
>>527618123Who fucks exclusively white women then? Lash?
>>527618891We got a concept art of him already, its a creepy guy in a weird hat and with a cape. Given that a bunch of people reference his strange looks and cape specifically, he definitely isn't going to stay a cop
imagine x hero siege in deadlock y or n?
>>527619769For me its tree tag
>>527619292Lash fucks monster women like Vyper and Ivy
>>527620648ALL women love The Lash
>>527617721You aren't wrong, don't know why he's played far less. I get him every time I purple him despite him being broken cancer, maybe cause his kit is boring
i would rather go against a wraith every game than a geist or warden. wraith at least requires mild game sense and aim, plus she can be killed. warden and geist just facetank multiple people and have game defining ults that just let them say fuck you basically
>better cleanly and securely kill the tanky as fuck geist that tops healing every game or she just swaps you
>oh she got away from the fight for a second, now you have to respect her and play like a pussy lest you get hit for full hp and your team all gets AoE silenced cause the devs thought that was a good idea
>oh warden is pushing your objective or for space? gg he just presses 4 and rapes everyone and everything that he holds W on
theyve been broken cancer for so long too, warden has been bullshit since the yamato meta and nothing has changed
>>527620609hidenseek deadlock?
>stone women
>snake women
>goo **men
>"a cat is fine too" women
>no furries
???
>>527621224>Muh Warden ultYour dashes bro?
>>527621224just interrupt his ult? lol
>>527621224warden's ult only works in snowballs or in chase with slow
>/dlg/ is now downplaying Warden
kek
>hazekek enters the thread to falseflag
>>527623375warden can't turn invis and 100-0 you on any hero anywhere on the map lil bro
>>527623554ivy can hunt you down from anywhere on the map CC. take out a lone hero
wouldn't that also be OP
>>527618891hes supposed to be a vigilante
when are they going to redesign abrams, again?
>>527624339no hazetroon they are not even remotely of close
>Watch Mikaels
>Gives 0 fucks about macro
>Just brooltards literally all game
>Somehow wins constantly
I guess when you're that mechnically strong it just doesn't matter what you do
>>527625928It's the only way to win the unbalanced rank games where half your team just jungles endlessly and never pushes
>>527625928if your aim is decent gun heroes are the easiest way to win
look at all the braindead haze players sitting in jungle 24/7, the only thing you have to do is hold m1 on someone
imagine dota sniper with ursa passive and stealth plus mk ult, the ability draft players wet dream
>>527626275>Greasers are a youth subculture that emerged in the 1950s and early 1960s from predominantly working class and lower-class teenagers and young adults in the United States and Canada. The subculture remained prominent into the mid-1960s and was particularly embraced by certain ethnic groups in urban areas, particularly Italian Americans and Hispanic Americans.probably american italian
>>527627157he mains spirit heavy heroes
>>527627462oh so thats why hes playing gun builds only right? retard
>>527627718only hero he plays gun heavy on his geist, shiv is spirit and greens, pocket is spirit, paradox is hybrid
>>527628007paradox is gun + util
shiv is tank + gun
geist is gun
pocket is shit atm
I fucking wish this shit would get finished and come out already so i can watch singsing play again
>>527628582He isn't going to play unless he can stomp new installs with his sweaty friends lil bro
HOW THE FUCK HAS NO ONE LEAKED VAMPIRE BAT YET LIKE WITH FRANK
FUCK
>>527629237because people already know what she looks like and no one wants to break NDA for something that'll be out in a few weeks anyway
>>527629467>that'll be out in a few weeks anyway
>shiv or geist rush radiant regeneration in lane
>lane becomes unwinnable
this item is very cancerous on certain heroes
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>lash looks like a fruity vaude villain instead of a hitler youth racist
character assassination
>>527629237So what you are saying is that you want more retarded trannies in a secret playtest then. Also why do people want leaks so much, play the fucking game and wait
>>527628420Only because shotgun heroes can't be primarily gun-focused and consistently win
>>527630049He's a dockhand by day and infamous boxing heel by night the new design fits him perfectly
>>527630264we've only seen the head
I'm gonna be upset if they remove all the stevedore accessories from the new model, portrait is missing the ropes
>>527630467there's also the anchor and sailor tattoos. And they better be on the fucking model once it gets an update
>>527576481>top 150 when there was 100k players, top 1% of players>now that there's 10k players I'm somehow in the bottom 10% of players and falling???
>>527629237new playtest has a legally binding NDA
>>527630748Valve having to get serious with that shit thanks to uncle drongo throwing his hissyfit over valve not patching a 2 decade old game is retarded
>>527630976He is a TF2 player, what did you expect?
>>527625825you're right ivy is a better assassin/ambush hero