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>Previous>>527279534>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
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>MAJOR NEWSMay 20 Heart of Democracy [YouTube] Helldivers 2 - Heart of Democracy
Jun 12 Force of Law [YouTube] Helldivers 2 - Force of Law Warbond Trailer
>LATEST PATCHESMay 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
Jun 10 1.003.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516337874624317890
Jun 12 1.003.102 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/580514905803718665
The live action adaptation is looking good
Alright picture this. You're this little Helldiver anime girl. Pelican-1 has left you behind and you're all alone in bug central. The bugs are surrounding you, their hard throbbing cocks ready to breed you. How do you survive?
Leviathans are bad game design.
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What do you think the democracy officer says when dumby thick isabella from animal crossing raises up from the platform covered in blood?
>>527314563This is retarded and would be way too strong, but I would love it if we did have boosters for utility stuff. Namely the FRV and Exosuits. Select the booster and then you, and you alone get one for free and that's it. If used in tandem with the actual stratagem you get to call down another one without having to wait for the cooldown (also once).
>B-BUT THAT'S LE SELFISHIt's as selfish as you let it be.
>>527336383You can ask the devs
>>527336317We'll see if that's true when they show up on fact bay
>>527336203What stratagem?
I played a few games with the new pistol earlier and thought it was pretty fun. I really like it
>>527336273i kill them all with my liberator and peacemaker
>>527336529>btfo by a barrel
>>527336804It'll probably be pretty good when they fix it. I am honestly shocked that gun doesn't just swap between a red dot and the lock-on reticle when swapping fire-modes. The irons are going to be awful when it's fixed.
>>527328170Great fun lads. Whenever we stood together and could defend each other from the bugs I felt a real bond.
I Hold em', you toast em'.
>>527337165True kino, 2585 melt em all bugs are a fuck
>All the disparity between the new grenade launcher was due to the weapon scaling in power with lobby count
I knew there was something fucky going on.
>pubbies bring 4 mines to high-value assets
>nothing to do beside wait for the mission to end
>>527336804What I hate is that a burst fire pistol is exactly what I wanted from the peacemaker. Hopefully the guideless shots will have a faster and more accurate fire rate.
I've never tried shotguns in this game but they do seem lackluster? I was hoping because of this warbond there would be a pump action or something.
Anyways what is the "best" shotgun?
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>>527336273I press F to parry them each time they try to attack since the swede has decreed they may not attack you more than 1 at a time.
>>527337663To be fair, mid air punching hunters is the best thing in the game.
>>527337594Cookout is king on bugs, standard breaker is still really strong with attachments, punisher has high damage and insanely high stagger. Halt is a decent choice for use against AP3 targets, stun is a meme that is occasionally useful in a bad situation. Of course this is all on bugs because shotguns are unrepentant trash on squids and bots.
>>527337594Breaker for the sheer volume of fire. It's pretty great with a full choke. The Punisher is better if you need some stagger in my opinion
region lock on a fuckton of countries removed, get ready for an influx of returnfags. are you excited, /hdg/?
>Just got the Deadeye to level 23
25 here I come.
I'm afraid that when I finish I won't know what to do next.
Maybe I might full level the sythe and laser-showmaxx? I figure with the expanded heat sink, laser cannon, rover, and las pistol you can have constant output of damage by swapping between them while on cooldown. Throw in orbital laser for extra theming.
Now for a full laser loadout we just need a laser grenade and 2 more las strats, (Maybe a las-sentry or a manned-las turret?)
>>527338075The browntide is coming. Though few believe it.
>>527337594cookout for raw DPS.
Punisher for stagger.
Breaker if you going CLICK, DEAD, CLICK, DEAD, CLICK, DEAD on small chaff like hunters or voteless.
Breaker spray and pray if you're insane and take full choke and bring it to bots to become a headshot machine. (No stagger means the gun just lasers in and melts faces)
Always remember that no matter how bad your day is, at least you're not on Draupnir.
>>527338297>the bricsmonkeys are comingSOUND THE ALARMS
HDG CALLS FOR AID
I WANT TO SEE BARS OF SOAP AND ANTISEPTIC HANDWASH ON EVERY BATTLEMENT
>niggersights doesn't want you to see THIS
>>527338208Diligence if you like popping bot heads.
Abjudicator if you like just clicking on things and shredding them.
Scythe is fun, but it's more like a microwave gun at this point due to the fire DPS. You can shoot for a long time, aim for legs and the fire DPS finishes them off.
I want 8 round baby mags for breaker
>>527338568Draupnir hasn't come under attack since Swift Disassembly. It's likely a comfy Scottish paradise by now. Slaughtered so many bots there, happy for it to be peaceful and secure.
>>527338075nigger this is just the purchase lock being lifted, those cunts were never prohibited access to the game they bought the key for off resellers.
>>527338786Why, you like counting to 7 or something?
desert city maps lets gooooo
>resistance on alta v is only .77%
they could not be trying harder to make the players do a gambit right now
>>527338963So that I can reload in split of a second regardless and dont think about how much ammo I have left in the mag
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>liberation mega cities are slightly different
>destroyed buildings and rubble everywhere
Why didn't they do shit to the SE cities to make them look different?
>>527339106Unless they move the redditor strain off the planet nobody is going to do that. Desert City kino with normal bugs is going to beat out jungle preds.
>>527337594Punisher is godlike on denying any medium bug from getting close to you and killing them in the short-medium term
Cookouit is similar but way better at killing lights at the expense of being awful on mediums (but now also able to kill TITAS thanks to fire buff)
TIE ME TO A MISSILE AND FIRE ME AT CARAMOOR
>>527339161You always full reload for an extra second if you don't leave one in the chamber.
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>>527338698the anons last thread whining about "post a video or it's fake!" just got BTFO
>not wanting to fight PREDATORS in a JUNGLE
why are blobtards gay
>>527339006>sand land>has moor in the name SW*DEN NOOOOO
>wakes up
>"Sony unbanned 130+ countries!"
>"OH SHIT I CAN FINALLY BUY THE KNIGHT SMG ))))))"
>Russia is still on the ban list
I want the space P90 so fucking bad, why would they do this??? WAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>527339719cant you use a vpn or something
Anyone else tired of MO defenses?
>>527339719HAHA YOUR GOVERNMENT DID SOMETHING
EAT SHIT, COMMON MAN WHO HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER, NO VIDEO GAMES FOR YOU
>>527339719The Knight isn't that great, I'm already bored of mine. Ok, it is REALLY fun, can't you find a nice chinaman to cheat one in for you?
love how there's actually a different city environment depending on the planet
-_-
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>>527339719same, I also want the Knight ;w;
They should release a Super Citizen option for people that already have the warbond, but I know they'll never do something that obvious.
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>>527339719Time to throw in the towel, cede crimea and belgorod to ukraine and there can be an end to this no knight for you madness
>>527335971>>527336383Name or screencap? I have to see this shit if it real
>>527340048It boggles my goggles that they didn't do fucking any of this for Super Earth. Also how the fuck did they think it was a good idea to not wait until the illuminates that are obviously almost done?
>>527336034 (OP)What's better game design, focus in letting everyone pick what they want to use because most weapons/strats are viable or making everyone have to pick weapons/strats that make sense for the mission and need to be complemented to be effective?
>>527340335I mean its just tied to planet modifiers, but I didn't expect them to also use the biome terrain, thought they would've defaulted to the "artificial grass" asspull explanation
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>>527340335Super earth is just one biome tho. I agree it wouldve been fun with more squids but they have been done for ages and are held back for "lore" reasons. (Staggered release)
>>527340448>making everyone have to pick weapons/strats that make sense for the mission and need to be complemented to be effective?This. It's ok to have certain weapons be better against certain fronts, since there's nothing stopping you from just not playing the fronts you don't like.
>I hate not being able to use my favorite gun against bugs/bots/squids!Then play against the enemy that you favorite gun is good against. There's nothing wrong with that.
>>527339783that will get you banned
>>527339719can't you just buy a game key and activate it?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240956610176/76561199108851031
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What planet are you from, soldier?
>>527338208>I figure with the expanded heat sink, laser cannon, rover, and las pistol you can have constant output of damageLasers are pretty strong right now because of the fire damage buff, but bringing that many lasers is only good for the meme.
Trust me, it's REALLY hard to overheat the Scythe with the upgrade, it's genuinely a very good gun now, only weak on preds just because it lacks panic CQC killing potential. Bugs you can saw off their legss, bots you can pop heads for days, illuminate are the only place it's kind of weak but even then setting them on fire is never a bad thing.
If you really want to have permanent uptime, bring either a laser sidearm(Dagger for zero recoil setting things on fire, Talon for 6 200 medium pen to the face) or the LC.
If you bring all three, you probably just won't end up using one of them because the LC is broadly just the scythe but better. So you'll end up maining LC and swapping to scythe whenever it's overheated.
>>527340107sexo with alice...
>tired of the same meta loadout bullshit
>tired of the same boosters bullshit
>tired of the same fucking unfixed bugs
>tired of slopbonds to milk paypigs
>tired of the same fucking MO fillers
>tired of retarded niggers TKing you at the extract with orbitals because it's "funny"
>tired of timegated content (FOMO included)
>wasted 400 hours on this swede slop
Darkslop was bad but holy fuck I will never buy a swede game ever again. I'm about to do it. I'm tired.
>>527341252see you tomorrow
>>527341252NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T FUCKING LEAVE US ANON WE LOVE YOU
THINK OF ALL THE GOOD TIMES YOU HAD WITH /HDG/
>>527341252now that you're done blogging can you gtfo
or are you gonna be like one of those twitter niggers and come back in under a month
>arc dog warbond preview is the gun dog trailer
sweden...
>>527341325>>527341369>>527341413Sorry Anons, I'm crashing out. Having a bad time here.
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>>527340448Focus on the niche utility of each weapon.
Have utilities that compliment the weaknesses of certain weapons / armors, and then other utilities that answer metas inside a faction.
EG:
Long cooldown strategems that offer a lot in a specific moment have the utility of being a powerful answer to calls.
Short cooldown reds/greens can alleviate the weakness of guns/support weapons in an avenue they don't do well in.
Then,
Balance blues and strategems to be exceptionally strong in certain situations, so people feel like they offer something to the party. But also give the tools to answer these problems less efficiently in case those players are lacking. EG: thermite and ultimatum can kill heavies but it's not something you want to repeatedly do. This way not everyone needs to bring THE COUNTER and fight over doing X. Players that bring the counter feel better for it and it evolves a role in the party.
>>527337993Shotguns are perfectly fine against squids because they can kill Voteless and Overseers.
>>527341718duck bill is funny as fuck on voteless.
Shame they made it the last tier upgrade for everyshotgun.
>>527341498But we love you anon
We don't want you to leave
Promise you will come back one day?
>3 days to defend 1 planet and liverate 2
We are on quite a loss streak as of late
>>527340856but reddit and facebook called me a bugger during the super earth missions
>>527340595Fucking incompetent fuckers holy shit
>>527340994I'm from Angel's Venture and I say, "Kill 'em all!"
>>527339719KEK, tell your dear leader Putin to stop chimping out and maybe Snoy will give you the Knight lmao
I can finally purchase this game
Always wanted to play this
>>527341252>>tired of slopbonds to milk paypigsImagine letting other people hold this much power over you
>>527341252>tired of the same meta loadout bullshitYou can choose pretty much anything and have fun on d10, being a meta slave is a (you) problem
>tired of the same boosters bullshitYou can mix it up if you want. That said, they are pretty boring with the same pick every game
>tired of the same fucking unfixed bugsUmm, they fix bugs constantly and add even more bugs to spice things up
>tired of slopbonds to milk paypigsYou don't have to coomsuuum and their pricing model is not designed for paypigs
>tired of the same fucking MO fillersDo you want no MOs or a slight variation in fillers? "Perform 10 000 000 emotes at extraction" or something?
>tired of retarded niggers TKing you at the extract with orbitals because it's "funny"No situational awareness is once again a you problem
>tired of timegated content (FOMO included)Definitely not the story game for you if you hate how the story is delivered
>wasted 400 hours on this swede slopSticking to it for 400 hours when you hate it is insane and you should seek help
>>527340448strategizing is fun.
so the latter is better.
even with bad stuff, learning how to synergize shitty stratagems or weapons into your loadouts and make them work is part of the fun.
Also trying to make "everything equal" is a losing battle that you can never win since people always have different opinions.
of course buffing and nerfing things that are incredibly broken in either direction is good, but for the most part letting players find out what's good/what works for them and letting it be is the best course of action.
(that being said it sure would be nice if the default liberator and smgs could actually hold their own as primaries and not have to immediately be swapped for a support weapon.)
also when in doubt you can always play on a lower difficulty if you want to use a larger variety of weapon/stratagems
>>527341916You are a bugger, but that's okay. Just don't be a smug dickhead about it and it's cool.
>play countryside bugs for a day
>goes alright
>want to check out sand city
>watch team blow through 8 reinforcements in 4 minutes
HOW are people this bad? The mob density is like half, it's baby mode, HOW!
>terminate illegal broadcast side objective in a mega city
wut
>>527342528How do you think they got there?
>>527342528sounds like some gene stealer cult shit
>>527342528>Set up le epik trvke in the middle of the city>A hunter comes up from behind me and mauls me to death>"NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! IM ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!!!!"
>>527342528There is no war in bug sing se
>>527339719They legally can't operate in Russia because of the full trade sanctions against your country.
>>527342528Charger jiggling ass propaganda has spread amoung the masses
everyone wants a charger or hunter gf
just to get BUGGED by stalkers and brood commanders
>>527341252>tired of retarded niggers TKing you at the extract with orbitals because it's "funny"I will keep doing this. Glad you're uninstalling. BUH-BYE!
>>527342620It feels oddly familiar
>>527343046We will not be silenced.
I wait until everybody else boards the pelican to get on
if they drop an orbital on extraction I just move away and let it blow on them
>moved the Predator Strain off of Inari
>also reduced the decay rate by 1%
>all so that the MO isn't a impossible to win in the final few days due to how dumb the players were in the past two
Stupid fucking bugdivers.
city bugs
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>>527343456It's good that you know your place. I take charge and walk on first like a real man. if I see someone trying to board before me i'll shoot him, reinforce and board.
>>527343431What a SLAMPIG
>>527343696>It's good that you know your pl*BANG*
>>527343709>SLAMPIGYou called ?
>>527343837No. The charger is more fuckable than that THING. Get it outta here.
>>527343810So eager to get on your knees that you hit your head? I hope you have stims left cuz I'm not sharing.
>>527343696>>527344050women and children first
Hey predditor bug fans, time for you to do another le epik gambit and lose this planet
>>527343645lmao
bugfuckers will never not be the most retarded of the retarded.
>>527344050>he sat down in the Pelican firstTime to practice my quick draw skills
>>5273436952/4
its friday night where teh fuck are yyou people?
>>527344098>letting civilians onto your rideIs your last name M'Lady?
>>527342528>>527342620At first in HD1 and early in HD2 it could be argued that the bugs and bots were secretly good and only fighting back to free the bugs from the oil farms/save the cyberstan miners and the super earth propaganda was really good.
But after seeing the bio-processors and watching bugs attack completely unarmed super-city civilians I am reminded that there are no good guys in war.
The modern Terminids and Automatons are monsters of Super earths own creation.
I really want AH to release a stealth patch were they add in some more flavor voice-lines for the bots, and the very small chance you hear a bug (maybe) make a noise that sounds like speaking since the Terminids used to (and with a tinfoil hat on maybe still are) a sentient species capable of speech.
>>527344246Stuck at work. Then getting stuff on the way home to wake up early tomorrow to travel to spend time with friends until Sunday night then back here Monday morning for a psych eval... Then maybe I can dive.
>>527343837FLESHMOB. 500 METERS. WEST.
I don't even like the new GL, it's too prone to TKing and I rarely manage to kill anything with it, so if they bugfix nerf it I'm genuinely gonna wonder what there even is to grab from that warbond.
The primary sucks, the dog's borderline non-functional, the armor passive's lame, the booster's trash.
is the urchin grenade a meme?
>>527344374We need new audio so fucking bad at this point. New bug chittering, new bot voice lines, new Helldiver voice lines, new eagle and pelican lines, and new music. It's so crusty.
Time is running out for (You) to experience Helldivers 2 without Justice.
>>527343837helldivers?
am I supposed to know who this person is? are they a dev, or is this a post by a discordschizo?
>>527344671what's the point of this post? Is someone making a justice mode or is that a weapon that will be introduced?
>>527344569it sends out multiple pulses so it isn't terrible but I still prefer fart grenades
>>527343456>hop onto pelican first>host shoots me in the ship because I didn't stay to farm kills
Did they patch city SC I'm on a bad streak
>>527344718it's a CM, she's a woman so she needs to be the subject of either sexualization or harassment, tale as old as time
>>527344671I just had a microdream waking delusion that the Justice was just stealth dropped for the end of this MO.
>>527344718Baskinator, HD2 community manager, but here we call her PIGGYNATOR, BACONATOR or SLAMPIG.
>hmm ill play bugs
>not associating with the people who can't keep their head on their shoulders
>>go to Veld, get a comfy city map
i like this. i will ignore your order for once bugdivers, i will not help you. wallow.
y'all ready for some desertkino
>>527343837imagine her orbital gas striking your dick...
>>527344671I already experience Helldivers 2 all the time with the REAL JUSTICE.
I crank them while blasting robots instead of listening to the default game music on loop for the 500th time.
>>527340448A loadout randomizer built into the pre-drop screen would be ideal. Then people just have to adapt instead of running the same four stratagems every time.
>>527344579I'd honestly be fine with a content drought if it meant more loredroplets.
I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.
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So now that its been two days how do you find the new warbond items? Which are meta?
>De-escalator
>Pacifier
>Ark Rover
>Halt
>Warrant
>Urchin
>>527344569yes, the moment you manage to stick one on a heavy, the following happens, "Why didn't I take thermite instead?"
>>527345529>GLmaybe shit, its bugged so its hard to tell how effective its supposed to be, sometimes its inept and other times it just rapes everything
>>527345415even better, if the devs are feeling really evil...
Walk in the park major order... but on a planet with A "RANDOMIZED LOADOUT" MISSION EFFECT MODIFIER.
Completely random armor, weapons, weapon mods, boosters, and stratagems. Even things you don't have unlocked. The only thing you can choose are the helmet, cape and other cosmetic only things. You can't see your loadout until you actually drop in.
Separating the babies from the real helldivers via chaos.
>>527345529When they fix the GL I see it being up there with auto cannon in terms of all rounder usage.
>>527345529Thanks to swedish incompetence it's hard to tell what's actually effective and what isn't. Arc dog has the potential to be the best damage/kills dog. Arc GL might intentionally be good or intentionally completely useless. Pacifier seems like a mildly better LibConc so that gun is officially dead and buried. Urchin is useless stun grenades are actually just better and whoever balanced the Urchin must have done it in a vacuum.
>>527346209It's going to be reduced to being fucking useless and you know it.
>>527345529>Pacifier>Haltthese two aren't even on the same playing field
>>527346206Honestly wonder why there are no mods replacing or improving the ship npc designs. Generic brown bald women is fucking boring.
>>527344374Oh, honey, my sweet, sweet summer child. This game is satire and anyone who's the slightest media literate would understand that immediately and come to the obvious conclusion that Super Earth is the villain that should be hated. I understand that *farts* mmm some aspects *farts* mmmm of the game's satire require a high IQ so let me help you along champ. You see, military is bad, very bad. This game is militaristic and shows values that promote the military. This is fascist which the television says is bad *farts* ohhh myy... and so *sniff* mmm you can't support it and the game makes it very clear that military is bad because of some veeeery clever and subtle jokes like the very easy tutorial. The enemies are of their own creation and the sins of the father is rightly deserved, unless you are non-white and adhere to a non-white societal structure of course. Humans are bad mmm and rooting for your own is never acceptable. Unless you're non-white mmm. The game portrays a stable, clean and well functioning society fighting for it's survival and this is satire because those things are bad. *buurp* Clean cities are *brup* not vibrant and exiting. A *farts* mmmmm yeeees.. A well functioning meritocratic society doing everything it can to not only survive but to reach its highest possible potential is bad because.. well it is you see.. eh.. nineteen thirty... mustache.. tacos... eehh.... HAVE YOU SEEN THE JOKE ABOUT ADEQUATE SIZED HOUSES?!? They are living in houses designed for their needs, truly horrible. *pours a glass of water from the toilet-shower-sink-fridge* The over the top propaga- *pling plong*
>what do you mean officer? >I'm being evicted to house who?*muffled sounds*
>>527346340I mean it's significantly worse than the regular GL in usability, reloading it makes it a liability on max difficulty, I think it's ok that it's better damage wise. Like the deadeye vs DCS, or Punisher vs Breaker. But this is in Arrowhead's hands.
>>527346206Anon, the bugs tore her limb from limb and then ate here and pooped her out as bug eggs. These things happen.
>>527343837>That hand over her belly trying to slightly tuck it inlmfao, certified fatass activity
>>527346206I miss her too...
>tfw will never be a part of the Service Technicians reverse-harem of helldiver boys because she's being re-educated (and possibly killed)
>>527338208>constant output of damage by swapping between them while on cooldownThis could already be done and without eve needing the laser pistol. Just the LC and scythe have enonugh cooldown and heat capacity to keep you permafiring.
>>527339421if you want a really funny joke look at the OP of the last thread
>>527345529>De-escalatorActively detrimental to your loadout.
>PacifierMid/Good
>Ark RoverIt's an option.
>WarrantNot a weapon I see myself using a lot in the long run.
>UrchinNot a fan.
>>527345529>De-Escalator8 SECOND RELOAD
YOU SPEND MORE TIME RELOADING THEN ANYTHING ELSE
>>527345876its damage depends on whether youre hosting or joining
same issue as the railgun
>>527346340see
>>527340595>they'd nerf this gun to be completely useless instead of just fixing it so it's consistantly at the power tier they balanced it around in their 4 man lobbies
when is the chink-mandated blonde crewwoman with big tits arriving?
Borderline Justice or Force of Law?
>>527347748wait is the gun more powerful in full lobbies or weaker?
>>527347969More powerful in full lobbies
>>527347923Borderline Justice is stronger in that the Deadeye is best in class while Talon is pretty high up there though not quite meta tier. Force of Law has loads of goodies but I wouldn't call any of it meta.
>>527346206>the duper destroyer is a little more lifeless just bc her VA is sperging out about ai and refusing any work even from people who outright support them
Is there a reason to use the arc-thrower over the de-escalator?
>>527348410kys ai slop nig
>>527348286>The VA's that dont matter are the ones throwing a tantrumpottery
>>527348410lys ai kino aryan
>>527348286>the duper destroyerIs not sow good width erds boss
>hunter jumps on me
>guard dog aims at me head and suicides me
Ok then.
>>527348410The mutant has too many fingers!
>>527348573Okay but how does that answer my question of what gun to use over the other?
I am sorry gentlemen.
I have not been contributing to the MO.
I have been playing solo, cheating and spawning in super credits, and then leaving without even doing the objective. I have been stealing an average of 2000 super credits from Arrowhead every hour. I could do more, but it gets boring just doing that so I tab out and look at youtube videos in between.
>>527339719Just cheat like you always do
>>527348410Why don't you make her white?
>>527348796What the hell, wheres my invite to the swede heist lobby?
>>527347923Law has my favorite bot primary and my favorite non grenade pistol secondary. Though ill admit that I havenโt played around too much with the law shit but so far the grenade launcher and stun rifle arenโt wowing me
>>527348796You're contributing to the only MO that matters. Operation Stealing Swigger Money.
>>527348954Fuck not law, borderline justice. Mental gymnastics had me linking law with the cowboy bond.
>>527348796If you host a lobby for anons you can quadruple the amount stolen from Swedes.
>he didn't notice the first time because that's how low their standards are
>he fixed it just to save face
>can't even get the same facial expression anymore, but this is fine with him no doubt
Wait why the fuck did Inari go down to 0% originally when we lost the defense at something like 95%? Isn't it meant to go down to 50% liberated when we only barely lose an invasion?
>>527348850because he's an avatarfag seeking attention
if only there was some way to deal with this kind of person, like some rule against it or something
>>527349961brown people dont like it because it's police themed
>>527349961The rifle is ok, the pistol is really fun and so is the arcnade launcher. And whether its intentional or not, the arc-nade can kill titans and chargers.
>>527349919/vg/ tranny jannies are avatarfags themselves so they won't ever enforce that particular rule. It's like asking them to not save CP before deleting it
>>527349961armor good
rifle bad
GL great but also a TK machine
Arcdog mid & also a TK machine
looks are kino
booster is awful
>>527348286S.T is based. Fuck AI slop.
Though she is a little dumb for not supporting AH for also being against AI usage in art. A strike against the entire gaming industry instead of individual companies is nigh impossible. But still, based.
Ai 'art' can be good if it is used creatively and mixed in with actual human touch (AKA not like the jeetslop anon in this general kek.)
>>527350498>>armor goodobjectively wrong, it's just worse Extra Padding
>>GL great but also a TK machinelearn the radius already
>Arcdog mid & also a TK machineIt's gas dog but better, press 5 when a TK is likely
>>527349919AI sloppers are fine. The discord trannies are another thing. One of them got really upset over being proven wrong they started spamming furry scat art. Faggot didn't even try to hide it and spammed every message ending with "lol"
>>527348796>farmable in-game currency >stealing
>>527350573>Owning the AIsloppers by refusing to work and being a laughing stockIt's not going great, considering no one even knows who she is and her NPC was emotionless and insignificant
WHY DO I KEEP FUCKING CRASHING FUCK OFFFFFF
>>527350742>AI sloppers are fine.No.
>every message ending with "lol"So you're the other guy, and you're still upset about that conversation? I'd bet it was actually you spamming the scat.
>>527351071Correct, it's you and
>>527350742 you.
>>527348796It takes you an hour to spawn in 2000 sc?
>>527340953ggz, many laughs had
I just want to dive in this biome, is that so hard to ask?
Im skipping the latest 2 warbonds
Tell me what i'm missing out on
>>527351276L-L-L-LIIIIIIST!!! GET THEM ON THE LIST NOW!!!!!
>>527350682>it's just worse Extra PaddingBetter than extra padding for the chest, which is where you're hit most often, while also providing explosive resist. It is, at worst, equivalent to extra padding as a whole.
>learn the radiusEven assuming you can flawlessly calculate safe distance at all times during high intensity combat, it's still a big limitation. You have to stop using it if there is a teammate/turret/enemy within a certain area, where most other weapons could still be used.
>It's gas dog but betterArguable, it is also, again, way more capable of TKing allies. Where a gas dog might slowly poison your teammate and force him to stim, allowing you to keep it still firing on the enemy, your arcdog would instakill said teammate or force you to disable it.
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240957585498/76561199070355342 by joining this lobby you agree to play D10 bugs and not complain if i zap your ass
How I effectively use orbital stratagems with atmospheric spores? I use the minimap frequently to plan my attacks.
>>527348796Hey anon can you host a lobby once in a while or share the mod/cheat?
D10 Bugs on Caramoor
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Bug Cities look kino but I'm getting like 25 fps
>play game for the first time in weeks
>immediately team killed 5 times within 3 minutes by an arc nigger and dipshits throwing strategems on my head within 3 minutes
Super Helldive, btw. The playerbase is so fucking retarded.
>>527352507Turn crossplay off
>>527351810Cannot relate at all, what a peculiar playstyle.
>>527352152WE'RE 3/4 GET IN HERE
>>527352507Lower the difficulty.
>>527352507Are you sure you're not just going where they already threw stratagems? Are you just so far out of position that you're standing in your teammates' line of fire instead of somewhere near/behind them where they can't shoot you without it being deliberate? Did you not think to bring arc-resistant gear the moment you saw an arc stratagem in your team's inventory?
God I can't fucking wait for bot cities bros
It's gonna be the best
>>527352795No. The game is boring as shit on anything below 10.
>>527352821No, I was not running in to their strategems, and no I didn't bring arc resistant gear for the single guy running the arc thrower. I assume that anyone using the arc thrower on Super Helldive has the mental capacity to avoid shooting the trash mobs (who are of 0 threat) next to the guy currently mowing them down with an MG. This was just a case of utter mongoloids doing their thing. My fault for trusting in a random to have above room temperature IQ, I guess.
>>527352658Is this unusual? I always use the minimap to identify large clumps of enemies before throwing orbital napalms.
>Thread coordinates locked
>Chudpods primed
>Engaging orbital jannies
>>527348410I'd be willing to bet this is the same freak avatarfag who was spamming /coopg/ with his smigger for a while.
>>527348410Arc thrower
>Persistant damage and stun lockingDe-Escalator
>Burst damage with long reloadThey're basically night and day weapons.
>>527353040The glowing eyes looked really pretty.
>tried stealth divers on flag mission
>Take long ranged rifle and the new grenade launcher
>offer support fire to teammates, maintain smoke to drop aggro
>snipe shit in the back, and scout the map and take out POIs like the jammer
actually pretty fun play style.
>>527340856>It's ok to have certain weapons be better against certain frontsAt the same time, some weapons/stratagems are either outclassed by others in their niche role, or don't have a niche role to begin with. Those stratagems/weapons are the ones Arrowhead needs to look at
>>527352507Hosting your own games solves the problem of retarded teammates well enough.
>>527353614>It's ok to have certain weapons be better against certain frontsUnfortunately it's also very easy to put together a "1 size fits all" type loadout. Though it's far more fun to specialize.
>>527353805Every time I host my own games nobody ever joins. I should just start posting the fucking lobbies here.
>>527353095Lower the difficulty.
>>527353920>I should just start posting the fucking lobbies here.Yes? Stop being so fucking autistic about this. Nobody is swatting your ass, worst case you'll get some autist sperging out about you in the thread. Don't make your nickname your fucking real name and you're fine.
What's the consensus on Breaker Incendiary vs Cookout on fighting bugs?
>>527352575>>527352507>quickplay>guy dies after 3 breaches spawn on them>I reinforce 100 meters away with a car nearby>white trash sounding guy screams about spawning them too far away despite the breach literally blocking their equipment>tries to kill me with a strafe>fails>takes 10 seconds to properly turn and aim the arc gl at me to finally kill me>kickedI guess this is why people turn off crossplay. Console players are subhuman trash
>set off a hellbomb so no one accidentally hits it
>in the amount of time it takes to explode, host in a mech walks over to it and gets blown up
>BRUH
>kicked
>there's going to be chances of you playing with a Philippines helldiver
Worrying.
>double EAT
>using the EAT pods as weapons
>EATs everywhere
>pubbies still somehow struggle with bile titans and chargers
>>527354203Nah I don't care about that. I usually only play one full operation or less so frequently I don't even ask friends to play. It's probably easier to drop in and out with lobbies here and I know the quality of player is at least higher than randoms.
>>527354709I fucking love slam dunking hulks and chargers with bEATcons
>>527354369cookout has stagger and fires 11 pellets per shot
breakerinc has no stagger and fires ?(decidedly less) pellets per shot
breakerinc is better at killing swarms at little shitters, but absolutely awful at killing mediums or heavies, also can't keep them away from you, also horrible ammo count given its RPM
cookout is far more versatile and powerful, imo
>>527354709that's too hard I don't do hard
that's why I use the cuck chair
>saying doko
it's "please" retards
Calm down anon. I'd post but I'm cooking dinner right now.
>>527355297I'd host my own lobby but my router is closed due to aids
>first no bul*pup rifle
>it's shit
:|
>>527355229you're right
>>527355297>>527355108>>527355113>>527355284I fucking hate weeaboos
>muh anime websitenot since m00t left. All the oldfags are dead, now it's just obnoxious terminally online trannies who spam lucky star and tohou.
>>527339719That's what you get for pushing the Menkent line, you freedom hating commie toasters. Total zigger death. Shoot a zigger in the face with an ar-23 liberator. Land your hellpod on zigger's heads. Hit a zigger's house with a cluster bomb. Run ziggers over with your FRV. Target zigger children with orbital gas strikes. Kick an old zigger into a bug hole. Pour mysterious black liquid into a zigger's gas tank, Sic your guard dog on a dirty zigger. Execute ziggers with an anti-tank emplacement, force a zigger to run into the desert with a portable hellbomb on his back, impale ziggers with the glorious Super Earth flagpole.
Arrowhead, add an exploding FPV drone stratagem.
>>527355739brown skinned nigger retard
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>>527355297Lobby doko you fucking nigger
527355739
bait, not even worth a (you) and im sorry you have 2 dads
>>527339249In my opinion, we were supposed to lose control of Super Earth and part 2 of the grand invasion event was to liberate Super Earth. Then china cheated and Joel had no way to railroad us without hurting the feelings of the Chinese people.
>>527354797 The cookout durable damage is the lowest at 3 damage. It's not doing shit to med/heavy units beside staggering them. Breaker Inc mogs it for everything besides stagger for predator bugs.
>>527347395I love to reload during a battle.
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>>527356336do you people seriously not check the discord
>>527356609nigga i just got on im no checking no discord i just wanna play
>Arrowhead in charge of guided weapon systems
I should have known the Warrant was gonna have issues. It took them months to make the Spear's targeting system work right
>>527356768We're having fun playing in the Discord, hop in Anon!
>>527356784>monthsSeveral. And four "fixes" that failed.
>level 149
>can't do anything above 8 without habitually sacrificing my squamates
Am I the problem /hdg/?
>>527347395At least the reload can be stopped halfway in a pinch. Also, it's a rotary grenade launcher, it's sick. I've wanted one of those in the game since launch.
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>>527356914no, that's how the game plays
>>527356914teammates are nothing but another resource, and a plentiful one at that
>>527356914You have been demoted to ammo carrier and support gf
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>>527356784The auto-targetting system is dumb. Why the fuck would I want shitty auto-aim that just aims center of mass? The only time auto-aim works well is if it's something like titanfall's smart pistol or aliens' smartgun. Basically aimhax that is kept in check by some other means.
On another note, using auto-aim at all was dumb. The theme is that it's a Helldiver Lawgiver. They should have let you swap between an standard mode that is a slightly worse verdict, and a "grenade" mode that lets it consume extra ammo per shot and fire off an autocannon style projectile.
Am I missing something about the urchin grenade? CC is great and all, but I feel like instead of stunning a dangerous target, a better grenade might just take it out?
Warrant should have been the ultimate max APM gaymer side arm with multiple modes but limited separate ammo pools for each
>guided
>unguided armor piercing
>HE
>stun
>>527356914>Am I the problemSometimes
I had a lvl 150 fag rage quit after bitching all game about us not helping him.
Then we got a new diver via sos and proceeded to steamroll the entire mission
>Tox dog
>Stun GL
This combo is so much fucking fun holy shit. You're a one man army of CC able to hold anything at bay and can finally stop chargers/biles properly.
>"We designed it to be retarded on purpose."
>>527357389I stick with my team but Im also the first one to run if things go bad. I don't start objectives like flags alone either.
>>527355297is the joke that Doko doesn't actually mean Please?
>>527345529warrant actually decent on bugs as a trash clear secondary, I like to pair it with the eruptor
plus makes dealing with shriekers a breeze
>>527357652>If a planet has cities, we made it so if you lose a defend event it goes to 0% liberation because... is just does!Brilliant explanation Joel you fucking swigger
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>wwooooowww you only found 3 of the 5 side objectives?
>3/5 stars then, you fucking suck also fuck your XP
-high command
>woke up to lost of questions
>and basically this because
>>527358225illum flares when?
>>527358225we desperately need a UAV stratagem, or just a huge boost to radar range from a ship module
Why do they gatekeep heavy armor penetration behind strategems so much?
also
>old stun options aren't allowed to stun X enemy
>But new stun option is
>>527355746fpv drone stratagem would actually be incredibly kino. especially on the botfront
>compatible with stealthdiving>able to one shot heavy units if flown into their weakspots>able to close bugholes and destroy fabricators that are hidden inside compounds or behind rock outcroppings.>able to span the entire map but balanced by jammers, shriekers, and having to hide yourself from patrols before using it Maybe it could be a backpack with three drones with like a 2 minute cooldown.
>looking through the leaks discord at the new squid stuff
>"erm you're not allowed to post the leak videos."
>"also make sure you always credit ironsights btw!"
>>527355889ah yes, the signature agp seethe.
you will never be an oldfag
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>>527358492you must be new here
>>527358694good morning saar
>>527358671dont worry bro
fuck niggersights BTW.
>>527358671Damn, is that really how irontranny runs his discord? I thought he was leaking for the love of the game but I guess he was just a jumbo faggot trying to grift the HD2 community of all things.
>>527358539There is only one stun system
>>527359116>We mindbroke the illuminate so hard that they reverted to being edgelord ninjas
>>527359186Yeah thats why it makes even less sense
>>527359120>Pieces of shit trying to leverage what little they have to gain a crumb of cloutYes
>>527358813Thanks for not responding with a smug tranime girl, I know it took restraint.
>>527358539Cause support weapons are supposed to be much stronger than primaries
>>527358807Doesn't do jack shit on spore missions, pointless booster.
>>527359439and they still are even if they don't gatekeep the armor penetration
Does Super Earth repurpose tech from the bots and squids? Because I just got my limbs blown off from getting swatted by an Overlord's wizard staff and now I want to use one
I hate to sound like I'm wanking the squids or anything, but I don't feel like "real" Illuminate should be common enemies on account of how badly they got fucked over during the first war. As undercooked as the current Illuminate are, I like the fact that it feels like they're fighting with drone strikes rather than getting their hands dirty.
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>>527359604Terrible take. Do not post again.
>>527359682>Terrible take.Could you at least say why?
>>527359257The only thing that makes no sense is you. No weapon performs differently when it comes to stuns.
>>527359598Wizard staff? that shit isn't magical at all it just has a shooty part on top
>>527359453atmo spores is the gayest effect on the roster
it makes bug missons so gd annoying
it's kinda funny that it's so ass it just outright makes scout armor worthless
like it needed help lmao
>>527359234>qte's incoming
>>527359773>What are grenades
>>527358143Doesnโt even make sense for planets without them because inari has no cities and liberation still drops to 0%. We probably wouldโve succeeded a gambit on Alta otherwise
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After getting to use the urchin this warbond is easilly 10/10.
The stun AOE is really strong, and if you spam them it's perfect. It's way better than thermite due to the versatility. Really glad to see they could actually balance something like this.
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>die to airstrike that kills me and the guy who threw it
>get shot in the head by a teammate
>ragdoll to a frag a seaf threw, ragdolled again to a second. get mauled by predditors
>get killed by a bug clipped into the floor
>die to arc nade the moment I get out of my pod
please let me have my 0 death game please
>>527360573>>527360701Built for Verdict headshots.
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>>527359754Gameplay should take priority over vibes. Zombieslop is vastly less interesting than the units shown off in the leaks.
>>527359604I'd like to see some more "real Illuminate" units in the regular force but I also agree desu, its a cool idea and I hope they stick with it to SOME degree but as-is they really gotta expand the base roster, whether that's through more Illuminate, more vehicles/drones/whatever Harvesters are or increasingly more fucked up looking corpse-creatures.
>>527360801for me it was the forced reload after a dive glitch and getting raped by a warrior
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>>527359791Seemed magic enough to me
Voteless were a mistake and a step in the wrong direction.
>>527359604>undercookedthe second addition to their roster already power-crept the shit out of them. Another step in the game's slowly decent into
>sentries>RR>>>>>>everything elsethey played differently enough before this recent addition.
AH doesn't seem to back down from this "great" vision too
>people don't like being one shot by the levithans on non-city maps>make the projectiles AoE, also make the harvester more susceptible to AT for... no reason ;)
>>527360013They perform the same as using the stun mechanic, stop being retarded
>>527360980They're fucking straight up wizards I love it
>want to like the senator
>can't get into it
I just skipped it.
Went redeemer -> gp31 -> talon. How do I use it and not hate it?
>>527361346>The stun grenade and stun everything the Urchin can>>"There is only one stun system"You are the one thats retarded
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NIGGER WHIPPER
>Generic zombie-slop with some biomechanical stuff
Vs
>magical alien ninja wizards
>>527357652>Make a really stupid decision>Then, make a really stupid reason why, that makes you sound even stupider than before
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>>527359879You don't pick scout armour for the recon shit anyway. Same way no one is picking unflinching armour for the recon shit. It's just a tacked on bonus to the armour.
>>527361759I realize they've done nothing but that since launch
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GET WHIPPED NIGGER
>>527361138I disagree. Squid's schtick is area denial
>stingray, mortars for ranged (and literal) area denial, leviathans do the same>harvesters are mildly area denial coded with their beam making standing still in direct LoS risky, and their arc attack for close range area denial>fleshmobs as wider and less dodgeable chargersvoteless are also a form of area denial and they force you to keep moving or bring specific stratagems like MG sentry if you want to hold your ground (which is usually a mistake). Most times I see players hold their ground fruitlessly on bots/bugs, without any reason to, it drives me nuts, voteless are a nice change of pace and it feels like they're teaching divers to keep on the move.
>>527359641we got another slot open!!!!
I'm going to start teamkilling people who bring napalm barrage, and then leave the game. These retards always throw it 2 feet in front of them instead of far out and end up doing more bad than good for the team.
>random in
>destroyer has left orbit, everyone else dead
>pelican is fifteen feet above a literal sea of bugs, gradually killing them, while rollypollies call in more
>>527362243>throw a napalm barrage at a big breach>it lands perfectly on a bouncy rock somehow and bounces about 30 meters back towards the team
Wait why are beholden to this iron sights guy and his trooncord cabal for leaks, is literally no one else leaking stuff
>>527362330>throw Strafing Run close to team thinking it'll be safe>bounces off a pebble>goes sideways and kills two people
>>527362015>area denialmore like bait and tackle or continuous displacement
>some guys pressure>some guys damagejust ignore the fact that flesh mobs, interlopers and leviathans do both at the same time and are harder to kill because that's all balanced.
Ok the bug cities were cool and all lets give 'em to the best faction (bots) now so I can enjoy the mega city biome
>>527362343>is literally no one else leaking stuffDoesnt seem like it. The two main leakers it seems are Ironsights and some furry who got shipped to Ukraine. Like shit, this is literally real squids in action and NO ONE is talking about it. Not reddit, or any of the sloptubers.
>>527358143>Yeah, you defended 99% of the planet BUT HOLY SHIT, HELLDIVER! THE ENTIRE PLANET IS SUDDENLY INFESTED TO THE CORE!!
>>527362243It's really is wild how many retards don't know the danger close of their red stratagems. They'll just casually toss down an orbital napalm or other barrage in like 20 meters beside everyone and then wonder why the entire team just got fucking destroyed without a second thought about it. It's especially bad on bug front because orbital napalm is more popular there.
>>527358143so what I am hearing is ALWAYS gambit now if a defense failure = nothing. But a gambit success/failure always = something
>>527363058No. It means that gambits are pretty much dead, since all liberations start at 0% liberated. There has not been a single gambit pulled off from a 0% liberation and there never will be unless the starts align, Joel hands it to us on a silver plate, and the DSS uses eagle storm to delay an attack by a full extra day. Which of course will just attract mothdivers to the DSS and make the gambit fail anyway.
>>527358143Aren't there SEAF patrols in cities on planets we are liberating a.k.a attacking?
>>527362947my favorite is when they throw any time of barrage towards and a bit past you as you run in to clear a nest or outpost
thanks for taking away the gameplay, nigger
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>48% pop
>only 3.8% liberation with DSS
HUH ????
>>527363259??? It doesn't matter if we win the gambit or not, what matters is we ALWAYS get liberation%. If we fail a defense, we get NOTHING. If we fail a gambit we always get SOMETHING.
>>527363303Barrages suck ass at clearing nests out in general. They might as well just spam 500kgs instead.
D10 Lobby decides which streets we patrol in dredd drip
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>>527354689I'm already here bro.
>>527361468Go back before they put the fucking sway on it and made the sights misalign, presumably. I did the exact same progression as you are except into Ultimatum instead of Talon since I don't have the cowboy bond. I really want to love it and it was useful on Hulks a few times but Christ almighty it does not feel good with six shots that take three seconds to reset every time.
>Take high ground the devs actively prevent us from taking
>99% of issues go away
>>527363423>If we fail a gambit we always get SOMETHING.We don't if Joel decides to make the decay high at any point to delete all that progress in a day's time. And there has historically already been many times where "progress" was made just for that progress to be wiped away in a week's time because objectives changed. Hell, it's a common thing even on bugfront because bugniggers are the most ADHD riddled faggots of the entire playerbase.
>>5273638393/4 get in here
>>527361470>Can't even put a sentence togetherThere is only 1 type of stun and all grenades operate the same with it. Shut the fuck up.
>>527364236Same, want to do it while these parks still have change dropped on the ground. I bought the Dredd armor and now I need it for bonds.
>>527363771i am confident in saying that a bugshitter has never ever taken note of their napalm barrage failing to take out even a small nest
>>527361468Talon is just the superior gun anyway. If you're shooting at a hulk or charger with a secondary you're probably fucking something up anyway, either poor strat weapon choice or getting caught out with empty weapons from not paying attention or your teammates aren't providing any AT or you're solofagging. An AT secondary is a solution for a problem only the careless or the inattentive have. If I was caught in a similar situation I'd probably just run back to my teammates and ping, not like the AT enemies can stop you from running away. Better to have the talon which is effective against most enemies and with some discipline, infinite ammo thus never a wasted shot like a senator on a tiny bug or trooper.
i just lost my lobby, someone make another one please
>>527364701steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240941310037/
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EVEIN MORE steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240957585498/76561199070355342BUGS COME ONE CUM ALL!
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How do we really stop the terminid infestation once and for all?
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SC FARM 1/4
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D10 predos
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2/4 got one pubby
>>527364991we let the bots do it for us after we enslave them
>>527364876NOT full we are 2/4
>>527365015I miss my poms...
>>527364991Selective breeding so they turn into bug cows
>megacity bugs evacuate high value assets
Zzzzz
>>527363839One had to leave we're 3/4
>>527364876someone is trolling this is still 3/4 stop sayings its full niggers
>>527365363That's literally what got us to this point
I wish double eats were permanent. Shit is fun just spamming that shit. Really makes me want to do a stun+fire bomb game or two.
>>527364876now it's full for real
The car company is called acar
>>527364991Well, if we stopped spreading them to every single one of our planets ourselves that'd probably be a great start.
They're bugs
They don't have space ships
>>527365553The cows around here don't have claws and spit acid
>Bugdivers in lelddit refuse to log in to MO because its all predditor strain planets
Are Bugdivers the most retarded playerbase of this game?
I JUST OPENED THE THREAD, STOP BEING FULL
The illuminate cultist are going to attempt to summon super Cthulhu to destroy super earth
>>527365732The current breed of terminids were Super Earth's attempt to turn the terminids into livestock
>>527365927and we're gonna kill him too!
>>527366191Nursing Spewers maybe, but the rest is retarded to keep as livestock.
Please please please let the squid leaks be real. Im so tired of zombies.
>free EATs
>new stun pods
bravo, arrowhead. shitters will seethe
>>527358225>find and activate LIDAR station>do all the secondaries>end of mission report says we finished a SAM site and illegal broadcast tower but not the LIDAR stationyeah nah the side objective tracker is just broken on bug mega cities
>>527345529I'm actually liking the De-escalator so far, but yeah it does seem a bit inconsistent. Seems like a decent side grade to the standard grenade launcher, being a revolver style GL makes it cooler too. I do like being able to use it to take out bile titans in a pinch.
>>527364283You're a dumbass.The urchin can stun enemies the literal stun grenade can't. You've lied multiple times already and you just need to stop posting.
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you in the wrong hood nigga
>>527344204This bothers me so much. How come this detailed information is only on the app? Why can't we see all this in the game itself? On the same note how come they changed it so you no longer get little flavour text on planets anymore? I liked the little jokes about a planets features or value to Super Earth only because we're deforesting it or something.
>>527366246>the rest is retarded to keep as livestock.That's totally correct, but I'm not saying that the current terminids make for good livestock. I'm saying that Super Earth's attempts to turn terminids into bug cows didn't work well at all.
>>527366816>came to the wrong colony, mon'keigh
>>527365385not like regular bug rocket defence missions are any less of a snoozefest
>>527357652I don't think that actually explained why things work the way they do.
What do you mean the inclusion of cities means it's overrun when we lose a planet? They weren't when the planet was a barren wasteland, what does a city change?
>>527366816Holy crap it's the 2007 line of Bionicle, Bionicle Mahri!
>tfw with free EATs I can carry One True Flag AND get an Anti Tank
>>527359791>>527359598>wizard staffIt's literally a temu copy of stargate's staff weapon.
I think it's pretty interesting that supposedly the old Squids do not spawn at all on new Squids, no voteless, no Overseers, no Harvesters, no Observers. Instead of Harvesters there are Sentinels, which are roughly equivalent to Harvesters but no shield and spawning as fodder, split in light and heavy variant, instead of Observers you have new ones that are fully flesh instead of automated. There's even Ghouls instead of Fleshmobs.
It's comprehensive enough that they feel less like the usual strain/jeets type of deal and essentially their own faction. I wonder if we'll ever get full Predator/Gloombug subfactions rather than just two or three special enemies.
>>527366816niggas ain't wearing armor they're just asking to get gunned down by the stalwart
>>527367149It just does, okay? Mastermind Joel never makes mistakes and totally didnt do it to further rig MOs.
>>527362947It's worst for the noobtraps that are eagle cluster strike and orbital airburst. They call can instantly splatter a helldiver, and they hit a huge radius. But cluster can't kill anything important, and airburst's current spread pattern doesn't reliably hit all of the enemies.
>>527359598>Does Super Earth repurpose tech from the bots and squids?Off the top of my head the plasma weapons are from the squids.
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>>527367324And that is why we will beat the Squiggers back to the stone age.
>>527367324>a weapon of terror, made to intimidate the enemy.Good luck with that
>>527367604Same with the shields and the dark fluid weapon.
>>527365681>They're bugs>They don't have space shipsExplain the gloom
>>527365763Predditor strain is only tough for like 3 missions before you realize you just have to
>prestim when an enemy is surprisingly close>shoot enemies at the edges of hordes, not down the center, since the faster ones will swing out to hit you where you're not expecting it while the chaff marches up the middle>look a little closer at patrols>if all else fails just turn around once every ~8 seconds>probably should bring a punisher or breaker instead of something laughable like DCS
>>527367672i like the guy with the formidable breasts on the right
>>527365763reddit absolutely loved predator strain, what happened? I thought they were finally going to stop being pussies about le bad computer controlled man killing them in a video game.
>>527367858>Giant fart cloud>Spaceshipbug farts are spaceships anon
>>527367858>Bugs decompose into FTL fuel>???>Bugs can travel faster than lightProbably something like this
>>527367858AH has flip flopped on whether they're spread by SE itself, they're the result of farm containment failures, or if they spread by launching spores into space.
Personally I think they should just have the bugs fly around in giant hive ships.
>>527367858>>527368112aren't*
bug farts aren't spaceships
fuck
>>5273650153/4
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after all day of playing with you guys i threw so hard with my friends I'm gonna kill myself
Any good Coretta or shota sloppa recently?
>>527368380the "bwc lust" gaze
>>527368232>I think they should just have the bugs fly around in giant hive ships.Nah, that veers a little too far from starship troopers and too close to 40k.
Considering the game's inspiration I don't think that's the direction they want to take
>>527368462>Nah, that veers a little too far from starship troopers and too close to 40k.Didn't the bugs HAVE space ships in the novels and continued movies?
>>527368587the book may as well be a different universe and there is only 1 movie
>>527365763Bugshitters don't play this game to have enemies that actually challenge them in any way possible. They are playing this game for a complete walking simulator experience to the flavour of Starship Troopers - the movie of course, and not the book. They are no different from game journos or gamer dads.
>>527368587>Novels>Sequels
>Take the defender to pred bugs
>It actually does really well
>as long as i pick up a teammates primary instead
How many times have you deadstopped a hunter today?
>>527368587OG bugs had space travel and energy weapons.
>>527368462>too close to 40k.they are called TERMINIDS
>>527368930Heh
I took it with ballistic shield today, it's not very good but you are flatout invincible against anything melee that isn't a ragdoll. Definitely wanted supply pack with the defender but shield precludes that.
Bringing FRV every mission is comfy
>qp into a d10 pred strain mission
>3 reinforcements
>1 of 4 objectives complete
>surrounded by bugs upon landing
Oh boy
>>527369067probably 20 times because i constantly need to do it while running the pacifier and arc GL on preds
surprisingly effective as long as the game allows your melee to hit
>>527369576Ballistic shield takes almost zero damage against bugs melee except Charger, Bile Titan and Impaler melees.
Bring Crisper and burn the bugs behind your shield then melee them with your Zippo Pistol
>>52736957675 round pummeler with the ballistic shield and Talon feels pretty great since you can just constantly alternate between the two and can lock down heavies.
>>527368587Novel Arachnids are much more of a human-like society that uses tools and whatnot. They're still a bug-like hivemind but they have guns, spaceships and generally use technology to do things.
In a way 40k Tyranids are closer to the novel than to the movie, although they use biotechnology to do things, which is why a gun in a Tyranid Warrior's hands is actually another Tyranid.
I wouldn't mind there being a faction that was like that, but it's clearly not current Terminids. Maybe Squid uplifted Terminid faction or someshit, would also go well with the four arms thing.
>>527369581getting used to the driving and being able to execute cool maneuvers in the heat of battle is kino. also mowing down bugs and splattering the car fully green
>>527369576that's why you bring the stun lance or flag
>>527369712Just bring the flag as your melee.
>>527369892But I like burning bugs behind my lighter pistol then smacking them with it.
this game has lost so much of its flavor for reddit appeasement, what a tragedy
>>527369209>Terminids>Termite nids>Not Tyranny nidsSilly anon, just because horny diver make lewd anthro art of both doesn't make them the same thing
>>527365015>>527368343what are the cat box links of?
>>527366464I want to sniff her thighs if you know what I mean
Based on the amount of leaks, how soon can we expect to see these real squids. I know better than to assume within the month since some of the LODs/effects look like they were made by the arrowmod guy but man this is the illuminate I expected 7 months ago.
wish theyโd give the flag its extra range
anyone else reminded of Metal Gear Survive when youโre holding a choke point by shielding and poking?
>>527369581I'll humor people that want to use them, but I think that they're deathtraps that fill a worst case fence sitting position between a more heavily armored/armed APC, and a more disposable bike/kettenkrad meant for personal mobility plus maybe one passenger.
>>527370490>Shows a shit driver driving shittily>"They're deathtraps"
>>527370597Most drivers are worse than that. Most of the time the 4-man capacity is a waste, and the large size of the FRV a liability. A smaller bike/kettenkrad that can move 2 people would be a better value most of the time for pure mobility, and the APC would be better for actually being a battle bus.
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>>527370490>>527370597Its so insane how people dont slow down and just hold down W.
Makes me think these are the same people who cant drive in Cyberpunk.
I don't bring the FRV because fast missions = fewer kills
And I just play this game to kill lots of stuff.
I think if they cut down on the timer on harder difficulties. That'd grossly improve the difficulty of the game. People get locked down way too much, and don't do anything. Think the time limit is way too forgiving.
You have to admit; this game looks incredible sometimes.
>>527371078>Every mission should be a blitzGo play Nightreign
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>>527370805People keep wanting a sidecar bike but that shit wouldn't be particularly more maneuverable than the FRV. We need a regular sized motorbike with a rider and one guy sitting at the back. Shame Arrowhead probably won't be able to figure out a decent bike riding system.
>>527371078it'd make vehicles have actual purpose. Since they won't/can't expand the map
>>527366464Does your fat ass ever get stuck when you try to get out of a hellpod?
>>5273709403/4
wait for (you)
>>527370951Controller masterrace being able to let up a bit off the trigger so I'm not going max fuck at all times
>>527371234better not be full by the time my game starts
>>527371159Just give me a kettenkrad.
>>527371159do you have context for picrel
>>527371131I'd say 10 minutes, not blitz timer.
>>527371167Yeah, that or scouting and stealth builds.
Ran a build that let me get across the map take out key points and stuff and get a good direction for my team to take. Cleared about 20 minutes or so early. Feel like the game gives you way too much time, and time is the one resource everything is balanced around.
>>527371182I always take hellpod space optimization
>>527371408>I'd say 10 minutes, not blitz timer.So you want even less time than a blitz?
>>527371531Take 10 minutes off, my bad.
30 minutes total.
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>>527371350Ukrainian Skala 425 motorbike assault company. It seems retarded but "motorbike cavalry" is a concept that just cannot go away, and that makes it realistic enough for Helldivers.
>>527371592I honestly dont see how this would accomplish anything.
>>527356185>Chinks derailed Joels railroad bullshitBased chang
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>>527371610Finnish Jaegers
>>527371673<an image of an anime girl holding a bottle of (You) in the camera>
How are armor passives balanced against backpacks?
That is, if peak physique was turned into a backpack strat, would you have to increase or decrease its values to maintain โbalanceโ opportunity cost wise
>>527371348This would be beautiful.
>>527371656Well look at everything the game does, it's all based around cool down and time. You have only so much time to do anything, and the more or less time you get the less you effectively do in total with your cooldowns in a set amount of time.
That and the game actively tries to slow you down, dropping calls on you etcetera to waste time and burn through your ammo and utilities.
A good team needs to be aware of patrols, not let shit spawn ontop of them, and have a plan to get around the map in a set amount of time.
If you look at the recon mission or whatever it was called. People actively were thinking, they were planning and trying to do as much as they could in a short amount of time. The game sort of "clicked".
I think time is one of the biggest balancing factors they need to be using more often.
I feel like this is how most interactions on this thread goes.
>>527365927we are going to fuck him too
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>>527371760South African Defense Force bike rider from like 80s
also a video of some Rhodie guys
https://youtu.be/964VkN8PCNg
>be stupid sweedish bug game
>have best use of haptic feedback and vibration of any game ever made in the history of consoles
how and why
>>527371901Shaving 10 mins off isnt some magic bullet that will solve how people behave. Those same people even fight breaches even on blitz missions. It will just make people unhappy because its under some weird pretense that theyre playing the game wrong when the reality is that thats probably why we have 40 mins to begin with.
The only way to fix that behavior is to just let them die to breaches over and over and they'll get the idea to stay with the group.
>>527371985Yeah, really that good?
recommend I use a controller and test it out on PC?
>>527372057People don't die to breaches or calls they can just sit in place and just stim through damage while enemies call on them over and over.
I've honestly had to run away from people, wait for them to die, just so shit despawns on objectives. And they'll last a long fucking time on there before they eventually die.
I would say it's close to a magic bullet, and I do think people would have to think, "Well how do I do this quick and efficiently" when they have just a little less time on the clock.
But again this is for higher difficulties, like 11 or 12 even.
Something to get people to think more, and not just call every breach they come across and just wade through shit until eventually everything dies.
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>>527371981JSDF
It would probably be terrible against bots but could be great to kite bugs around.
>force of law
>Ceremony
>Borderline justice
>Servants of Freedom
>Urban Legends
>Truth Enforcers
>Freedom's Flame
Which should I get? I have the others unlocked and I have 2k Super creds.
>>527372509Urban Legends, and it's not even close.
>>527372509Urban and Flame
>>527372070if dualsense controllers have the same feedback capabilites on pc as console then i would say yes. but i really cant say since I've never tried it on pc, myself.
the guns all seem to have their own feel. you can feel when you are running low on ammo and you feel when the last round fires and the clip is empty. even after >700 hours I'm still impressed by how much information i get just through the controller into my hands.
I'd like for the Helldivers universe to get the 40k treatment and a rollout of books, minis and new games.
There's a ton of potential that I think AH is neither capable nor really particularly interested in harvesting.
How is the Pacifier in the new pack? I enjoy the BR-14, is it just as good?
>>527372509Urban legends/ceremony for the armor, force of law for the weapon, servants of freedom for the secondary and portable helbomb, truth enforces, freedom's flame, borderline justice last, it kinda sucks
>see egg still at mega nest, run over and grab it and bring it to extract
>Y U HAVE EGG??
>kick
>>527372509All of them are pretty fun now, but how do you like to play?
>>527372697mm, interesting.
Might try that with the car or something.
>>527372509>Urban Legends>Truth Enforcers>Freedom's Flame>Borderline justice>Servants of FreedomThese. Truth Enforcers has cool guns but worthless passive and meh booster. Urban Legends only has the lance but the armour passive is absurdally good and you get the cuck chair and flame sentries. Freedom's Flame is very cool if you like flamethrowers because a flamethrower as primary/secondary is objectively superior to the support weapon. Borderline Justice has very good guns and the armour passive is a great gimmick to use for secondary oriented builds. Servants of freedom has great guns, gimmicky grenade and a cool stratagem.
>force of law>CeremonyStinky.
>>527372756Dogshit. It's unironically the worst assault rifle.
>>527372808fembots owe me sex
>>527372756Do you like the Pummler? Do you ever wish the Pummler was faster and more accurate?
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>>527372756>How is the Pacifier in the new pack?It's dogshit, possibly the worst primary overall. It really only works if you stay close enough to someone else so that they can make the kill after you stun.
>>527372829I do light Standard starter armor all the time, but am really aggressive.
I wanna try melee too so urban looked cool. I really enjoy the regular sickle against bugs, else I use the lib pen / BR-14 with either the standard or winter pistol. I usually bring a 380 and a eagle, everything else "depends"
>>527372509Servants of Freedom for the hellbomb backpack (it's the most fun stratagem in the game)
Heavy pen Shotgun/AR/Rifle (not eruptor) when?
Why does arrowhead hate ARs?
>de-escalator
>torcher
>gas dog
the holy trinity
>>527373102>Why does arrowhead hate ARs?Because they have never shot any in real life, so they have no idea how good they feel and don't care to recreate that feeling to share with others even if they knew what it was.
>>527372509Servants of Freedom for the phb and dickle, and seeker nades are neat even if they're not great, but since you have dem det you can take a goofy pick and still be able to clear holes/fabs.
Urban Legends is overrated imo, someone else will bring the cuckchair 11 times out of 10 if the mission lets it be practical, and you can just buy the siege ready armor, nothing else in that pack worth pissing on
Borderline for the Talon as third pick.
Flame for if you find burning bugs fun and want to bring a flammenwerfer and an AT strat weapon.
>>527373296How
How does it work
Is anyone else having a weird bug with melee weapons? Every once in a while they get stuck in a weird upright position and don't swing.
>>527373280Yeah. Torcher + urchin and de-escalator fucking RUINS every faction. Including bots.
Like I feel like a monster going into POIS and stun locking things and just shredding through the congo lines of bots.
it's even more disgusting if you take strafing run.
>>527372990Urban Legends could be a good fit. The armor is pretty uplifting for most guns and the stratagems it comes with can fill out the need for variety. I also think the stun lance is super cool, personally.
I'm actually enjoying Force of Law a lot. The aesthetics are top notch and gives you a bit of a different way to play. I also recommend Truth Enforcers for the same reason.
>>527372756Its the MW2 (2009) ACR with a stun effect
>>527373102someone has to stop the ARslop menace
>>527372756The recoil and fire rate feel good, but it can barely kill scavs even. You'd be better off taking the stun lance, you'd get more kills.
>>527372756Weakest part of the pack for sure.
The stun effect is too poor for what you're trading off for.
Current loadout for bugs is:
>purifier
>peacekeeper
>impact nades
>eagle airstrike
>arc thrower
>gatling sentry
>gas mines
Is this a good bug loadout? What's the best support weapon against bugs?
>>527373587Stalwart/MMG. Stalwart more for Preds, MMG more for normal bugs but fine either way, just keep some way of killing BTs around.
>>527373378Orbital EMS and Eagle Napalm
>>527369596Pacifier and Pummeler have the benefit of basically deadstopping hunter pounces too, at least. Like, they get the pounce off but a single stun round stops all their momentum and they just fall to the ground stunned. I think people sleep on that benefit of the guns since a lot of these players probably don't even know what deadstopping is as a mechanic.
>>527373363>He doesn't AK-15>Hes Never AR-47edJust start bolting shit together and test fire it towards the ND corner in your house.
>>527373749Or you could use a real gun and kill the hunter instead of merely stunning it.
>>527373749Shooting the hunter any time during its jump stops its momentum. It's not exclusive to the pummler/pacifier.
>>527373587It will do fine against normal bugs, but what doesn't
will get assraped by predditors though
What primaries do Melee chads use? one armed smgs?
>>527373784I appreciate the genius of simply cutting the forward assist off but where is piston, where is buffer? What does it eat?
>>527373689I could see it, I've been using EMS mortar alongside it too, just carpet bomb the area in EMS.
Makes me wish we had something that could minimize EMS effect.
Finally feels like I've got the perfect support build.
>>527373587The Grenade Launcher is great for both killing bugs and closing bug holes really quickly, just takes a bit of practice to get the hang of it. Pair it with any high DPS short range primary.
>>527373928>melee chadsAlmost like... Knights...
>>527373928The Amendment for even more melee.
>>527373928Constitution to melee heavy armor
Knight because you're a knight
>>527373376>a weird bug with melee weaponsWe call those terminids
Siege ready is legitimately overrated
>>527374171they all look so fuckin ugly too
Has anyone come across a weird bug where the game doesnt "Save" your loadouts, settings, armor, keybinds / etc?
I have no idea how to fix this.
>>527373956I think it's just a nigger rigged piston gas system hidden under the front furniture, so no need for a buffer out back. No idea what it's chambered in.
>>527373498>it can barely kill scavsi keep hearing this, where does this meme come from, is it another host/client desync issue?
>>527373816it oneshots hunters to the head. It also kills scavs and pouncers in one shot.
Anyone up to farm some super creddies.
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>>527374171Siege ready is for niggas who insist primaries should be to kill every enemy in the game
>>527374171More ammo is but reload speed is fucking godly for your sanity.
In terms of power levels the medic armor is still S tier with a huge powegap between it and anything else. People in medic armor are either clueless or sweatiest of sweatlords.
>unflinching now gives you a radar marker bonus
? The extra armor is nice but literally all they had to do was let us stim/reload through damage
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>>527374392would make it too easy. If you can't press prone, or press F it's on you for not playing better. It's way too easy to just stim through damage with the supply pack and be unkillable. Need something to actually semi-stun you.
>>5273743263/4 SC credits.
what's the ultimate 1v3 hard carry loadout as of today?
I carry 2 sentries the cuck chair and the recoilless on all missions personally.
>>527374658airstrike + 500,
autocannon
Car
Car gets your team around.
Autocannon does everything.
the two eagles will shit out damage, kill everything, and handle nearly every POI.
Primary dependent on whatever you're fighting.
You can also swap to something like recoiless on bots if you really wanna do everything.
>>527374658Oh and to add
>>527374918Gas grenades.
Basically solve every chaff problem in existance.
>>527374171I prefer passives that improve offense rather than defense.
So did the Quasar somehow lose its sound effects in the last update or is my game uniquely fucked somehow?
>>527374392I'm guessing they couldn't think of a more mechanically appropriate third non-unique passive so they just went with the most thematically fitting instead.
>>527374370They should.
Or at least be the primary weapon you fire.
>cities would be nice to have as a rare refresher whenever a city planet opens up
>they make it a core feature of every planet instead
>there is no reason to dive anywhere except for the city, other than that you finally got sick of the city
https://youtu.be/xQRtzqG7B4U
>>527375402It's kinda cool, and it does sorta make sense with the theme. It's also very useful for what it does and offer the team.
Kinda hope they can lean into the roles of gear even more. It'd be nice to see them being like soft "classes" for players like they envisioned.
Maybe we'll even see a rework to medic armor.
>>527374318>>it can barely kill scavs>i keep hearing this, where does this meme come from, is it another host/client desync issue?It does 50 damage, the body (the big orange part of the scav) has 60 health. If you hit the head it still kills in one shot cus the head has 20 health, but if you hit the orange it takes 2.
Not counting continuous weapons like the flamer or the scythe, or shotguns cus individual pellet damage, the only other weapon in the game that can't OHK a scav with a body shot is a sickle (55 damage).
I think technically the redeemer and lib pen might fail if there's any damage dropoff cus they do exactly 60 damage base so if it loses any then it won't OHK, but idk much about what triggers damage falloff except from back when people needed to dive forward to 1shot enemies with rockets way back when.
>>527375406Bro your torcher?
>>527370329SC arrow mod but green
>>527375504>city maps offer corridors and tight gameplay, promoting a lot of reds and strategems with tight areas of effects>Town maps offer the same with a bit of open areas to trudge through. Offering a bit of both >open maps let the player handle threats from afar and stretch out and roam all overAfter doing so many city and town maps in a row. Getting a full open area map felt like a fucking magical experience. Makes me so happy to take the car and or jet pack and just run around like a tard. Feels like a sandbox like farcry or MGSV
>>527375556Already equipped king
>>527373296>>527373363It gets worse the longer you look at it
>hop on the FRV gunner-seat
>dakakakakakakaka
>out of ammo!
>hop out
>primary no longer able to shoot
How do they fuck this up?
>>527373587>puribetter on bots imo, I much prefer a shotgun or libpen/libcarb, it's a bit underwhelming rapidfired at close-range
>peacekeeperyeah sure. Personally, I'd take nade pistol (or one of the primary weapons from dem det) for always being able to close bugholes. Nothing gayer than an 11 hole mega nest and you've only got 4 nades. That's also why I wouldn't take purifier, since it's got relatively long reload time and small mag, if you took a breaker or something you wouldn't have to rely on a secondary for damaging regular enemies so much.
>impact nadesgas nades are king imo but if you don't have the chemical warbond impact is decent
>eagle airstrikeKinda hate it on city maps. On higher difficulties bile titan holes make eagle 500kg much more attractive
>arc throwerIf you were taking eruptor or xbow or even Plasniper then maybe, why dedicate the support slot to close range + high uptime when there's already so many primary guns that do that?
>gatling sentryoverkill and will TK mercilessly, take MG sentry instead and call in twice as many.
>gas minesgreat on swarm missions. wouldn't take for regular ones.
>best support weapon against bugsEAT is able to kill, or on a miss, atleast strip armor on the big scary guys, and if your corpse is swarmed it's no big deal when you drop back in, I don't think any other support weapon can really compete with the sheer stress-free capability of the EAT. Only on d10 do you really see more than 2 of the super heavy foes at a time, in which case a teammate is surely competent enough to assist. If you were going eruptor/xbow primary then stalwart is ok, I also kinda like MMG/HMG but recognize they're probably not the meta. Autocannon is very good here since they added flak and fixed shrapnel.
>>527373296Sweden has forced military service you stupid nigger holy shit you people are STUPID
>>527374395Am I weird for liking the Zaku designs more than the actual Gundams?
>>527372756Its good, lots of poorfags in these threads just ignore them
>>527376258No that's kinda a consensus nearly everyone has.
It's like storm trooper syndrome or whatever it's called where the badguys are cooler.
>>527376179uhh but they don't go out to the gun range once a month like me so they're neverserved cucks than don't know anything about the rootytooypointandshooty
>>527376258It's much more rare to be a federation fan.
>>527376258I'm a GM kind of guy
>>527373296I'm pretty sure pilestadt or whatever is former military
>>527374798Swedish fuckery happened, the lobby is back up
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>>527376179The average marine or soldier is not a wealth of knowledge and wisdom. Conscripts, even less so. All service does for them is grant them an inflated ego, making them think they're tactical masterminds because they learned how to load the bullets in the right direction, and how to not choke to death on crayons.
i really hope squids stop having colony / mega-city maps all the time
city maps are kino on everything but squids, and its getting annoying to have JUST zombies in a city all the time
>b-but just dont play squids if you dont like it!
theres already little reason to play them when theyre boring as fuck.
next week HOPEFULLY new squiggers
>>527376640To add to that, shooting a gun doesn't mean you'll necessarily be intimately familiar with a gun the way an autistic armorer will be. Like dads who drive SUVs and think their new crossover is "sportier" but has never pushed a coupe to its limit, for example.
>>527376640>The average marine or soldierThey're not doing your dogshit US training you stupid nigger holy FUCK you are stupid.
>>527376894>Game has some of the best gun representation >"Must just be a coincidence"FUCK you are stupid
>>527376640I'll trust conscripts over random anons and internet tough guys when it comes to gun knowledge
>>527376983You seem angry.
So stalkers just sit near their nest and wait to be killed now?
>>527372895The truth enforcers passive is pretty nice now.
>>527376993I trust my anon-dachis because some of them on this board are fellow Finnish conscripts
>>527377038Na I just like pointing out how stupid you are in an amusing way
>>527376179No they don't.
The law is that they technically all are part of the chain of command but actual military service is pretty much exclusively voluntary in peacetime and you can always opt out. You will be interviewed and medically checked but if you don't want to do it (because, for example, you want to go to an university to become a game developer) it's very, very easy to get out of doing it because the amount of people eligible vastly outnumbers how many people the Army can actually take in. If for some reason you get forced anyway, you can just say you don't want to go to military and go work, for example, at a power plant. I even know a guy who wanted to serve but had too bad of an eyesight and they didn't let him, even though he was fine while wearing glasses and would otherwise be a viable recruit in wartime, simply because they could get enough guys without glasses that year.
The only Euro countries that have an effective conscription system of the kind you think of are Finland and Switzerland and even there it's pretty easy to avoid if you don't want to.
>>527376993I've seen conscripts. I'll trust literal children over them.
>>527377219>exclusively voluntary in peacetimeStopped reading, RETARD
>>527375156do we EVEN have to tell you it's broken
>>527377219>for example, you want to go to an university to become a game developer)Everyone at Arrowhead working on guns has served.
>>527375537>It's also very useful for what it does and offer the team.I don't think that the teammates can see the enemies detected by the ping? My friend told me that he couldn't, but he's also sort of a dadgamer who is pretty oblivious to the tactical situation around him and gets his ass handed to him by D8
>>527377219Except they talked extensively before launch about how they had served and continue to shoot at ranges for fun. Nearly all the guns are accurately animated.
>>527376258Some of the gundams are nice, but as a whole the zakus are cooler.
My favorite thing is when /hdg/ has two guys arguing about something but they're both obviously on two different topics and can't seem to figure out that the other isn't exactly detracting their point
>>527377250You can just say you have allergies and they won't look at you twice, and majority of people don't make it that far, they never get called. If you can get out of doing it that easily it's voluntary.
>>527377328>>527377448Maybe, I don't know and don't care, I'm not that Anon you argue with, but it's hilarious to see that people get this so wrong because they read on Wikipedia that there's conscription.
>>527377491welcome to 4chan
>>527377448>believe the swedish gun autism is just overrated hype by people who never shot a gun or used it for longer than 1 hour>switch magazines on the defender between extended and short>the bullet's position actually changesIt's a very thankless job, but details add to the overall game picture.
Perhaps the gun autists are more passionate about their work than half the dev team is, and lets not forget the QA, if they even have one.
>>527377491>anon 1I think apples are good.
>anon 2SO YOU THINK BANANAS FUCKING SUCK?
>anon 1apples are good
>anon 2FAGGOT NIGGER!!!
>continue with other anons joining in but the original 2 think it's still only them
>>527377501Nice strawman, doesn't apply here.
>>527377501>Maybe, I don't know and don't careYeah cos you're a retard talking about things you have no clue about. Sweden has conscription, its proper military training, most of the dev team has done it, most still shoot. Now take your giant L and shut up no-gun loser.
>>527377558>fast forward a year since release>teleporting magazines>nonsensical ironsights>wrong reload animationsAll the Swedes have long been replaced by Indians.
>>527377558There is a vid somewhere of one of the lead animators and hes a complete gun nut so it fits
>>527377595Yeah but Apples > Bananas just like Stun GL > AC/AMR.
>>527377873Well that's a qa issue mentioned earlier
>>527377931>not even one AK platformI am dying over here
>>527377939Leave N***h alone buddy...
>>527339719RIP zigger lmao
>>527377824>Sweden has conscription, its proper military training, most of the dev team has done it, most still shoot.None of this contradicts what I said.
>>527377757Okay.
>>527370940GGs. Sorry green, didn't mean to sweden you
>>527378042bananas are better motherfucker
>>527339719>bought the game for my friend in Moscow>able to play with hin just fineIt's literally a non issue.
>>527377983Pacifier is basically a Galil.
>>527378154The gay unloved cousin of the AK
>>527377376yeah they can't, gotta tell them where stuff is basically.
>>527378096Holy shit, that's what happened? I hate SWIGGERS.
>>527340934they don't ban anyone. ever. literal cheaters dropping thousands of SC are still running around.
>>527377983I want wood furniture so bad
>>527378042Because you're backtracking to save face now stop posting
>>527378231Steam bans you for using VPN to buy shit. They started being very autistic about it because people kept buying things for Monopoly money.
>>527378307nigger, this isn't a VAC secured game.
>>527378347You are a fucking retarded monkey gorilla nigger, it doesn't fucking matter, you retared dumb faggot shitbrained trans pedophille. They ban your fucking account wholesale because it's against the Steam TOS. Good luck playing Helldivers when you can't use your fucking Steam account you limp dicked fucktard. Kill yourself you human turd.
>>527377931I really liked this thing
Until I saw one taken apart
The things it hides inside are unholy and should never have been dreamt by any engineer, all to achieve one incredibly stupid purpose.
>>527378550tranny-sama, the HRT affects your blood pressure.
>>527378574Based retard slavoids, you would never understand)))
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>>527378574You think THATS bad?
>>527378574>American butthurt by superior soviet engineeringAK-47 is still number #1 stay mad lmao
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>no motorbike jeet gymnastics stratagem
>>527378714>No one man vehicles at all Probably for the best given how dogshit floaty the jeep is
>>527374326>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240960673904/76561198101161757Back to 3/4
>>527377983heres your AK bro
we made it fire lasers now and added some random gizmo to it.
...honestly, a slower-firing, beefier laser rifle wouldn't be that bad.
urchin only exists for the spreadsheet autists
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>>527378698>superior soviet engineeringlet me guess, you think that "nasa spent millions developing the ballpoint pen...soviet russia used a pencil" joke is fucking hilarious, don't you
>>527378991haha bro kaiser shotguns kaiser shotguns
>>527378973I'm going to steal this look and then go grief some public lobbies.
>>527379120now you're just having a schizoid meltdown
>>527378991>it's so simple, a child could use it>and they do
>>527379208Make sure to post any funny clips you get here so I can take credit for them
>>5273743953/4 we still doin whatev
>>527378810I'd pay 300 Sc for that desu
>>527378810Make it like this and my credit card is yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kNZdy-IxNQ
>>527378991>Hes STILL butthurt over losing Vietnam because of the ak47PFTHAHAHAHHA
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>>527339719ะฟpoะฑะปeะผa c ะฝaะฒัะบaะผะธ)))
>>527377227I'd trust children over anons to be fair
At least children don't spend all day making tentacle rape AI slop
>dogshit /hdg/ hours
>slavs reveal themselves
oh, it was them, explains a lot
>>527379513>Anyone who doesn't think the US is the best nation ever must be a slavMost of us just live in countries with actual freedom you should move to one
>>527379513if you get TKed in a /hdg/ lobby 8/10 times it was yaroslav on his seventh sippy
>>527379663if the state of this general during these posting hours is any indicator of the people there, I'd really rather not. Goodnight. Try not to argue over skin colors and cuckholding too much.
>>527379747i teamkill you sober
it's malicious
>>527379747made me giggle
>>527379513I'm singaporean
>>527379763Considering you're the one bringing those topics up I think you should stop letting them live rent free in your amazon warehouse of a brain lmao
>>527379856>seaniggers in my /hdg/
>>527379856>ladyboys are hereMay we see your cute feet?
>no drum mag for Tenderizer or Adujudicator
gay swigger game
>>527379928if i'm in your lobby big boy
>>527379891hii
>>527380046waste less shots nigger
do tactical reloads
turbo nigger
stop wanting the easy way for everything
seething GIGA nigger
We need more buffs. Pred bugs are literally impossible.
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I FUCKING KNEW IT.
Also "glitch" lol okay. People were geeking about that gear all the time telling me to buy it because the kill count. Can never tell if AH is malicious or just stupid
>>527376606>posts a suit that is objectively not a GM and is barely even a jeganc'mon zeek i know you're trying but fuck dude disguise your false flags better next time
I fucking love the jesta, it's one of the coolest suits to come out of unicorn among a sea of awesome suits. wish it got more screentime.
>>527379513What's wrong with being slav, muttoid?
>>527380253so thats why I would get 40x kill count on throwing a single seeker into a blob of voteless...
>>527380253...Granted stealth builds are fucking hilarious with the hellbomb strat. Like throw smoke grenades, stay back and in cover, and then when a bot drop comes in I cook hellbomb and just sweep the entire wave. Super satisfying on flag mission. Also really useful to take out key POIs before they can even react.
>>527380253Pretty sure I get this on the new shock GL, I shoot one shot and kill +20 enemies that were not there
Does the enemy composition change within the same operation?
>>527380046If those had drum mags then nobody would use anything but those, and then Arrowhead wouldn't be able to sell shitty warbonds, so they'd just shut down the servers.
You wouldn't want that, would you?
Can the seven thousand Atla V divers please help out on Caramoor? Or at the very least go to Inari to help knock that out real quick so we can properly defend Caramoor?
STOP SPLINTERING THE DEFENSE YOU DUMBASSES.
>>527380339a lot of stratagems synergize with stealth
I hope we get that stealth bond
>>527380442saar, you are in /hdg/ sar, not official and blessed divine arrowhead official helldiver discord
go talk there with the lowly pakistani bugdiver bastards bloody bastards
>>527380379depends. icbm missions have more rigid constellations (ie. zerker/scorcher hulk. bile spewers.)
>>527380379Not over time, but there are different groups and patrols you can run into throughout the map. Sorta how a bike spewer seed doesn't have spewer in every group (until the reinforce).
>>527380478>Stealth warbondGo back
When the Illuminate come back will we be rescuing all the brave Helldiver cadets those vile squids abducted from Super Earth?
are arrned resupply pods any good?
>>527380848its "ok", need a detection range buff though
>>527380848They're good at teamkilling
>run up to resupply>get your teeth shot out if enemy is chasing you
>>527379496>At least children don't spend all day making tentacle rape AI slopNo doubt there are some that do.
>>527380848good on defend asset
>>527380478Yeah same. After doing a stealth run in a 4 man, I can understand the appeal. Doesn't even feel like I'm just dicking off, I'm able to support teammates and take pot shots on things when they expose their weak spot to me. Lotta fun honestly.
>no APC
>no Bastion tank
>no ammo customization
>no Justice
>no transmog
>no special helmet UIs
dead game
>>527380848merely decent, not competitive with the metaslave picks
>8 vodka crans deep and 3 6 mafia at max volume can't hear shit
>d10 bugs with amendment, ultimatum, arc resistant armor and random strats
>0 deaths, most kills
this game is too fucking easy
>>527381310you playing solo or is your team carrying?
>>527380706it'll happen and be peak
you're just afraid of being perceived as a noob for not sneaking past patrols
>>527376258Nah grunt suits have more variety compared to gundams desu, I like aoz's take on them
>>527380848If you're using a tech or sentry build then you must take it for the sake of the theme. And yes, it is good.
>>527381365Noobs who are afraid of high octane action use stealth. You're probably the same type of fag that takes the amr and jetpack every round. There is nothing impressive or skillful about stealth in this game.
>>5273793163/4 againโข, doing bots rn
>>527374318>ads>single firelmao nerd
me with 3 randoms (i'm the boulder)
thank god for sentries so it least looks like im doing something
>>527381310You're not allowed to have that opinion. HD2 is an epic power fantasy only. Only racist chuds care about difficulty or challenge.
>try to do a heckin stealth run
>enemy patrols just happen to walk to my exact location even if I am completly undetected
nice stealth mechanics, AH
>>527381515if I wanted to impress and flex skill I'd play something a little more complex lol
there's nothing "high octane action" about mowing down every patrol and jerking it to yellow number afterwards
>>527381190theres not much to compete with the metaslave picks, but thats AH shooting themself in the foot. not like 1 had any better boosters / perks to choose from.
all they have to do is rework the existing ones to sound more beneficial.
UAV Recon is actually cool, but underused. Maybe allow it to scan around a diver even in the middle of an ion storm / bug spores? Bug Spores are such a nothingburger modifier at this point, might as well.
The reinforcement ones are memes and I cant think of any way to make them more appealing, as they're already doing what they're supposed to.
Localisation Confusion isnt explained at all, so...
Expert Extraction Pilot is alright, better after the buff, and honestly a nice pick, since extractions can end up being boring as fuck where nothing happens.
Motivational Shocks, just remove the fucking flinching altogether. Yes, Truth Enforcer armor exists, but you still can get flinched out of the stimming animation.
Firebomb / Stun Pods are...very gimmicky to use to begin with. Feels like they were added because they had no better idea on wtf to add.
Dead Sprint is alright, melee chuds seem to love it, and heavy armor kniggas dont mind either. Sorta a meme pick otherwise, but it does what it says.
Both the Sample Scanner and "kill a big enemy and have a CHANCE to get a sample" are retarded shit. They should just have a 100% chance to have a big enemy drop a sample, instead of this weird gacha bullshit. Sample Scanner should SCAN the area around you (or if youre using the scout perk, around your marker) and show you where the samples are.
>>527381764if I'm being honest, if they deleted all the premium boosters, I'd only miss experimental infusion and be a little sad about dead sprint. the rest can go to hell.
>>527381764>UAV Recon is actually cool, but underusedMostly because the destroyer radar upgrade makes it kinda obsolete, you don't really need more passive detection range than what the radar gives you
>>527381730Check your map, bring sonar booster if you need to
>>527381913Experimental Infusion is the most unique one of them, mainly due to how you actually see that shit in use. Sure, extra stamina or muscle enhancement kinda exist there, but you only notice them when you're sprinting for 5 seconds longer, or not slow-walking through mud.
The boosters shit might as well be a method of AH to go "the warbonds DO have content, look, its another booster that nobody asked for, barely does anything, and will be forgotten 3 minutes after everyone looks at it!"
Same as how the new armor passive is "yeah you take less damage to the chest, but you're more likely to take damage to your arms or legs first due to how hitreg seems to favor those parts more, so uh...but hey it looks cool at least."
>>527381764I've been using the new stun booster and firebomb booster (now that I realized they buffed it) with greens a bunch. Kinda cracks space in the middle of groups pretty hard, the stun booster especially.
>>527382231I like the new armor passive but also believe they reached a point at which they should stop introducing new ones and improve the existing lineup for a good while instead. Same for boosters of course.
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Am I going crazy or do bugs break your limbs WAY more often now
Even a scav having a nibble on my foot results in a broken leg 9/10
>>527382662Kinda feels like it.
might be that I stopped taking the parade armor which negated most of it.
>>527380848Not good enough to compete with the "must have" usuals but having what is effectively an expendable Guard Dog on every resupply is nice if you're into the idea. Its not a troll or wasted pick but its usefulness kind of comes and goes before you even realise its doing anything most of the time, but I like it for encouraging people to throw resupplies more aggressively or outside bases/nests.
I say all this despite bringing it in nearly every mission since it dropped, I love that little gun.
>>527382662yes bugs got a notable melee range upgrade I am 99% sure of it, earlier a charger stomped my leg to shreds in what would have been an easy dodge in previous versions of the game
>>527382869that used to happen all the time desu. Anytime you try and dive from a charger you'd lose your legs if it nicked you.
>Inari
>Dried Lakebed biome
>FRV
>Flat Land for dozens of miles
>finally able to drop it in dive and floor it across the map with nothing to send me flying
>nearly hit 80 MPH ferrying the randoms to the objective and back
oh boy ITS RALLY TIME
>>527382662i feel like they upgraded the amount of heavy units that spawn now
having 3 behemoths+2 spore chargers+3 BTs during a bugbreach (not near nest) is crazy
>>527382970Honestly love it. Makes bringing 120 feel satisfying cause it just hammers heavies in breaches.
>>527383015underbarrel tear gas grenade launcher
shrimple
>>527383015take away medium penetration, increase damage
or make it spawn mini-arcs on hit (small radius, less damage, but gives you AOE)
>>527383015Stun applies faster and lasts a few seconds longer. It's a decent alien gun, but stagger is king on bugs, and light pen shreds devs.
I think it's just that, but it really could use a little bit more in terms of the stun. Just so it actually does its job properly.
Siege-Ready gives all the support weapon MGs extra mags despite claiming to only apply this to primary weapons. Does Reinforce Epaulettes likewise give them extra reload speed?
>>527383153VERY consistent, thanks Sweden!
>>527383015Mag-dumping makes you yell "STOP RESISTING"
>>527383015Add ammo types to the game and let me take regular bullets that have +10 damage which makes it a libpen with more recoil and a smaller mag, simple.
>>527383134>Siege-Ready gives all the support weapon MGs extra mags despite claiming to only apply this to primary weapons.Didn't they update the text to say all weapons to like give it the actual consistency it needed and cement it's going to improve support weapons?
>>527383105now that would be fun AND useful
get your crazy ideas out of here!
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>>527383105>underslung launchersanother hope shattered with the weapon mod update
oh well I guess we'll be fine with another couple of scopes *crashes*
>>527381737You're right, because AH made the game too easy.
>>527381730This is how the game is supposed to work, patrols pathfind towards you when they spawn, so you need to be constantly moving. Closer to a patrol spawn = greater chance of them running across where you are. Think of yourself as constantly giving off a 'soft alert' status in MGS where enemies come to investigate where you are. I'd like a camo device that lets you go invisible with the trade-off that you can't attack or sprint in the inevitable stealth warbond kind of like the camo device in 2142
>>527381310Oooohh, you BAD!
>>527383015Heavy pen and double mag size. Would barely make it usable but would be a huge improvement.
>>527383015it will be fixed via 65 damage per round which it will have eventually
Sweden just wants to torture everyone that wants to use the pretty cool and unique stun stacking mechanic early on.
>>527383456just use stun nades if you wanna stun heavy targets
>>527383364I miss the old bots, the ones you had to flank or thread the needle on the heavies and super heavies, and all the rockets were instagib.
I miss having to wait for the right moment to spring an ambush on a patrol, using stealth to get into the perfect position to deliver violence.
I miss Malevelon Creek.
>>527383585They're honestly easier than the current bots.
Grenades and explosions used to absolutely fuck them up. Like you could take grenade launcher and basically handle the entire roster.
That and light armor and shield pack were both busted, and made the game dramatically easier. Honestly the hardest the game has ever been was post EOF. But no one actually liked that.
>>527383364Anon, you baboon, you said the quiet part loud! You're not supposed to do that! Now everyone will tell you how "the game isn't easy wtf have you seen those pubbies with 20 hours in this game fail at D8? me, with 2000 hours in this game, is so much better than them."
>>527383585Glad I'm not the only one, though I think getting ragdoll juggled in this game is the biggest faggot shit ever and makes me rage, especailly when an explosion knocks you around BEHIND solid cover. The half-second 'stun' before you can actually start moving when you recover from ragdolling is a minor change I'd make to this game to instantly improve it, but I'm sure it's there for a reason to prevent some terrible bug from occurring
>>527383585all the bots need are offense and defense upgrades which they will be getting in future subfactions
>>527383812Ragdoll and knock back exists because players can just sit behind a rock and stay prone all game.
Ayys kinda advanced on this, by making it instead of knockback, they just constantly send chaff at you to flush you outta cover.
>>527383847Pitch me a new bot subfaction.
Does anyone else think bots are the easiest faction? for me it feels like bots>squids>bugs in terms of easy to hard
>>527383879Sounds like the automaton need a fast moving unit that flanks or to throw more grenades.
Not to be smug but the first game both had dogs for the cyborgs AND the standard 'devastators' of that game shot grenades at you instead of hitscanning you with lasers. Timed grenades mind you that you could avoid which turned the game into a mix of a bullet hell and a twin stick shooter on higher difficulties, man it was good.
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>>527383879>players can just sit behind a rock and stay prone all game>picrelEXIT LIGHT
ENTER NIGHT
Now, if the Barrager tank would actually stay at a distance and shoot more often, they'd be a more present target, than just being a AP3 free kill.
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>>527383893Tesla brigade (obvious shock-theme to units)
Cyborgs with nostalgic units from the first game (veteran brigade or something)
Elite-guard with assassin/sniper bots and commisars that are more heavily armored, as well as faster vehicles
>>527383893panzer bots
>dual shield, dual gun heavy devastator>class 3 armor trooper that is essentially as armored as a devastator>hulk with no coinslot, can face tank an EAT>zerker with indestructible chainsaws and no belly weakpoint>annihilator tank with no exposed heatsink>gunship with class 4 armored engines, class 5 body, checks for big AT damage or a great deal of consecutive heavy pen hits>factory strider with a massive health/armor upgrade to the head section
>>527383948I'd agree with that. Squids are probably easier though when you figure out how to lock down the chaff and whittle them down. Bots are a little harder because it's not as easy of a gear check but an aim check, bugs are kinda a gear check but you also need to be good positioning.
>>527384035I honestly don't disagree with the idea either, but I kinda like the slow plodding of bots. I'd rather instead of rushing down, they just advance on your position better. Like use more "tank" tactics. Like line up the chaff behind a hulk, use him to push through lines and then push out behind them.
Maybe not even have hulks, but an even bigger unit that can soak a lot of fire similar to factory striders. Extremely slow moving but once it gets ontop of your positioning - well actually that's just factory strider. Maybe just do more with that then.
>>527383113>take away medium penetrationwe already have the pummeler
>>527384213>I'd rather instead of rushing down, they just advance on your position better. Like use more "tank" tacticsBarrager tanks already are meant to flush helldivers out of cover anyway but they're FUCKING BROKEN because arrowhead always fucks random shit up
When they released they would actually bomb you with rockets and it was fun as fuck and made the bots feel more rounded
>>527384046Must have been a bit since you've played. Bots are now the easiest faction, they've been that way since they fixed most of the units from instantly hitting you with rockets and giving everything telegraph. Even the mega fortress mini-turrets got the nerf bat.
>>527383015Just giving it the same stun time as the halt stun rounds
>>527383893gunship spam and hordes of jetpack bots
>>527384297I think predbugs are generally harder than bots but squids? What makes squids harder? Keep in mind I'm talking about normal missions not cities where the spawnrates for heavy bugs seems to be broken
>>527384293They kinda do that now, but yeah. The squids actually have a really formidable barrager unit. Hell impaler is a scary fucking "barrager" unit.
Honestly kinda funny how much overlap all the factions have when you really look at it.
>big slow moving target>smaller faster moving enemies that disjoint you
>>527383267Ammo types will be on most ballistic guns but Pacifier should simply get whatever new effect from an ammo type in addition to the stun effect.
>>527383879>players can just sit behind a rock and stay prone all game.play the game retard
you can't just sit behind a rock because bots have shit like berserkers to force you out of cover
>>527384385Bots you can sit behind cover and just plink off at things. The scariest thing about bots were their chaff, because if you couldn't kill them in time they'd flush you out. With the buffs to primaries, devs die stupid fast and efficiently. The key to bots has almost always been eliminating the chaff honestly, and now that it's so easy to do so and people are wising up to it. Bots are SUPER easy.
Aliens on the other hand have it inverse.
The chaff doesn't die at all, and the only real way to efficiently deal with it is niche shit like gas. Without that, the rest of the faction has free reign to gun you down.
what makes someone rate a faction hard?
>bugs
bad loadout
running away
not shooting their gun
failing a simple DPS check
>squids
inability to multitask
unwillingness to learn weaknesses of enemies
lack of Anti-Tank
>bots
bad positioning
overreliance on stratagems and SW
inability to handle factory striders
>>527367149It would make some sense if the retard meant to say, if you don't defend any cities the planet is overrun.
Or if every city you defend increases the "contesting" of the planet after a loss.
But that would make sense.
>>527384526>throw gas,stun,urchin>pull out any over tuned primary and click heads>go back to sitting behind cuck rock and eye shot my fifteenth hulk>uh oh factory strider might ragdoll me with the cannon, better shoot one of my several rockets at it and disable it >okay back to sitting behind cover and shoot the miniguns off so my teammates can butcher the factory strider
>>527384562I think it depends in regards to bots. I've joined pubby games on bots that are nigh impossible but it's 2 distinct biomes:
Jungle, because there's tons of trees that block your shots while they can see you through foliage and spam shots in your direction, and flying fuckers are really annoying to fight when you're in a jungle
Desert, because there's almost 0 cover, and I'm not talking about a 'canyon seed' but a true desert where there's 0 cover and striders juggle you constantly
>kick chink on loadout-selection
>enter game with no stratagems equipped
Not sure if sweden or chinks. I'll blame both just to be sure.
>>527383893Armored brigade
>bot APCs as part of patrols alongside tanks>dropships spawn with gunship escort, dropships are up armored (takes 2 RR shots to down) but each wave has fewer dropships>fewer devastators but chaff bots have lv3 torsos and pack more firepower (MGs and rockets)>fewer melee bots spawn>more chance for bot defense installations to spawn like anti-air and mortars
>>527384664it's so painfully obvious you don't play the game
>>527384620>inability to multitaskits usually apathy
>lmao im not shooting that elevated overseer
>>527384620Squids are more the DPS check than bugs- honestly I'd say bots are more the DPS check than bugs too because of berzerkers n shit.
Bugs are more like a CC and AT check.
If you've got gas grenades and eats you've basically solved the faction. Actually no wait, that's EVERY FUCKING FACTION.
>>527384562That's retarded.
The thing that took bots from being scary was nerfs to their damage. Getting caught in a Devastator barrage was death sentence, rockets were death sentences, cannons were death sentences, machineguns were death sentences. Little part of this was because explosions ragdolled you into them, rather than push you away but that was minor in grand scheme of things. Now only Factory Striders, bad luck and outright ignoring Heavy Devastators or turrets is what gets you killed. If they weren't nerfed into the ground Bots would still be complained about even after weapon buffs because you'd fucking die before managing to kill shit.
>>527384620>lack of Anti-TankBold of you to say this about a faction that requires AP3 at best.
>>527384830>strafing run>orbital gatling>MG>EATs>gas grenadesI solved bugs, doesn't matter if it predditors, gloomers or the normal ones
>>527384823Elevated Overseers are fucking annoying because out of all enemies in the game they somehow feel the tankiest. I think their hit detection is just fucked.
>>527385005coulda just said gas grenades
They should just make bot's rockets do made damage again. Have them one shot only light armor sissies
>>527384872you don't play squids.
they buffed harvesters leg joint, mmg/amr is dogshit now
Having fun with shield builds
Gunslinger Armor
Pummeler
Talon
Fireworks
Ballistic Shield
One True Flag
EAT
Walking Barrage
Dropship engines should be made tankier, I'm tired of retards wasting their AT on them just to create more cover for the bots to fire at us through.
Factories should only blow up if you hit the vent or use red stratagems for them. If the stars align and you got a clear sightline for everything, one retard with the RR and a Resupply can clear half the map before the 1st objective is even done.
ATe...well its in a paid warbond so we can't do shit about it, now can we?
>>527385005Which of these deals with Bile Titan holes?
>game crashed 2 times in a row
not sure if it's the game's fault or the driver's fault, I just updated it yesterday
>>527384830bugs is THE dps check because they can't attack you from range. eliminating them fast is the difference between life and death, whereas you can ignore groups of bots/squids for far longer than you could do on bugs.
ergo, bugs is THE DPS check faction.
>>527385149EAT
Just close it with the pod
>>527385102I think they should just design the POIs better. Theres a lot of them on hills with walls and shit that block off half the view of there factories. I think they should just do that with every one of them.
>>527385029It's because of their ablative armor, if you use a scope and drill them in the leg you can kill them pretty quickly. You have to shoot the same bodypart though and with the spread + recoil it's hard to do.
The problem is they have kind of an inverse-weakpoint system where their head is what you SHOULDN'T shoot at since it's medium armor, unless you're specifically using one of the weapons that can kill them quickly to the head like the DCS or the deadeye. Deadeye 1 taps them to the head and with the sniper scope it's pretty fun to bring to squids especially with PP to fix the ergo problems
>>527384830>bugs>15 dps check enemies that kill you if you don't kill them>not dps check faction>squids>massively weaker/lower dps check enemy than bugs>dps check faction>bots>2 dps check enemies>dps check faction?
>>527385059Harvester feet are still 20% durable 1000 HP fatal, they were the superior option even before, as Hips were 50% durable. I was already ten steps ahead of Sweden.
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>>527385220This is why I think the constitution should be buffed to deal the same damage as the deadeye btw, being able to 1 tap overseers with it would make it an unironically good pick for squids if you get bored of the deadeye since it has a bayonet to fend off voteless
>>527385174I get like why you think that, but bugs have the lowest DPS necessary to kill their chaff. You can honestly stagger and CC their units super fast and reliably, so the damage can be feathered out for a longer period of time. Predator strain kinda fucks with this, but a punisher can basically solo the enemies.
Meanwhile with bots if you don't kill or use a specific stun tool to handle their units you will get flushed out of cover and lit up.
Berzerkers, Gunships, Hulks, FlameTroopers
And they don't respect stagger at all.
Aliens its the same story.
Zombies are plentiful, and fleshpounds you NEED to gas or kill quickly because they will just be ontop of you 24/7.
With bugs the scariest unit in the game is the impaler.
Other heavies too potentially if you're wearing heavy armor. Their heavies are a lot scarier than their chaff honestly.
Initiating FTL jump to... the Sissy system
>>527385440Don't worry, when it gets ap4 it'll be perfect.
>>527385593That would be cool too because then you could eye shot hulks but damage is more important than armor pen to fix the constitution if they don't plan to increase the reload speed/add stripper clips or whatever. Its pitiful damage is a bigger problem than its pen
>>527385509>bugchaff needs less DPS than votelessok
You'll sooner get a breach loaded sniper that's ap4
>>527385730>4 fleshpounds show up>24,000 HP>8 hunters show up>...1280 total HP?
>>527385593>it gets 20 durable as a stealth change
>>527374395Absolute units, ggz
>>527385576erm why's all of /hdg/ there
>>527385840>rare enemy has more hp than common enemyok retard, your point being?
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>>527385935>rare enemyit spawns on trivial
>>527385916Ah it was the fucking strider that got me at the end.
>>527386073>a rare enemy spawns on all difficulties rarely>a common enemy spawns on all difficulties commonlyok retard, your point being?
>>527384213>Extremely slow moving but once it gets ontop of your positioning - well actually that's just factory strider. Maybe just do more with that then.SHIELD generator striders
ROCKET striders (either barrager or the reinforced strider large rockets)
>>527385102>one retard with the RR and a Resupply Hey, not ALL of us are retards. And really, can you fault the guy who brought the big boom stick for wanting to use it to make big boxes go boom?
I agree, though. Fabricators should be harder to kill. Hell, most bot objectives should not be able to be dealt with from range. Having to gun your way through bases and trenches is the most fun I've had on with bots. Current fortresses aren't enough, give me the whole fucking map to blast through.
>>527380379It would if I knew I was facing a spewer hive ahead of time but alas there is no way to anticipate such a thing.
>>527386396fleshmob is common
>>527385509Bugs auto-win
>everyone brought rapid-fire or shotguns >someone brought anti-tankBots auto-win
>everyone brought anti-tank>someone brought economic anti-heavy (gunship, rocket strider) (LC, AC, HMG)Squids auto-win
>everyone kept moving the whole mission>no one brought too much AT to the detriment of chaff-clear
>>527385509>they don't respect stagger at alloh yes they are complete bitches to stagger, just need the right amount of it i.e. the autocannon