Forced Loss MO Edition
>Previous>>527609540>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSMay 20 Heart of Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA
>LATEST PATCHESMay 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
Jun 10 1.003.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516337874624317890
Jun 12 1.003.102 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/580514905803718665
>>527667179Don't forget the entrenchment tool
Go on, /hdg/. I want to hear YOUR new stratagem idea!
>No MO planet under attack
>Half of the playerbase goes back to bots
>Only 6% of the playerbase goes to fight squids
Nice faction you got there sweden.
>>527667367Just give us a fucking plasma support weapon already.
HopeGODS, how are we feeling?
>Illuminate cultists tomorrow
>APC as well
>Even armor and secondary customization
>Potentially even the cargo truck mission
>>527667367Gas red
Expandable MG
APC
and the list goes on
>>527667662Surely tommorow is Justice's day.
>>527667367aerial vehicle, Peilcan battle fortress
six passenger seats, three on each side
three passengers can switch between them and safely fire their support weapons down its belly
we go full blown AC-130H Spectre on the enemy
SEAFies can board and will sometimes yeet EATs
Does Veld just not have any bunker spawns? Can't seem to get any spawning.
>>527667662I don't think you guys are gonna like this thing as much as you think
>>527667820Heli with a gatling...
>motivational shocks significantly reduces the stun effects for all entities on the map, including hostiles
I'm going to take motivational shocks whenever I see a teammate take the pacifier or urchin from now on.
>>527667367A battlement stratagem, like the genadier one, but it's 2-4 stalwart machine guns.
>>527667931they'd have to really fuck it up for me to dislike it
even if it isn't *that* good i still want it because we're in desperate need of cool vehicles. I want to be able to see an APC with three of my teammates rounding a corner in a mega city, drifting into a stop to pick me up. I want to do this to pubs
It's just kino.
>>527667367orbital lightning strike red stratagem
can take the form of a direct lightning from the super destroyer OR a 5 meter tall rod with a tesla doohickey on the top that slams into the ground and zaps everything nearby. makes a cool sound right before it goes off like the click click boom that the 500kg does
>>527667367laser cannon emplacement
laser cannon sentry
gatling emplacement
patriot rocket emplacement
plasma cannon emplacement
incendiary grenade launcher
gas grenade launcher
incendiary grenadier battlement
gas grenadier battlement
MG battlement
laser cannon battlement
plasma battlement
arc mine deployer
broken arrow (drops all equipped eagle stratagems at once)
orbital gas barrage
orbital arc barrage
precision napalm strike
orbital arc cannon strike
eagle gas strike
portable arc cannon
plasma cannon
heavy flamethrower
APC
motorcycle (with sidecar)
bastion
lumberer mech
exosuit resupply pod
pelican gunship support
>>527667367Thunder strike and thunderstorm barrage.
>>527667367Eagle Air Superiority
>it shoots down leviathans>that's it
>>527667662>Armor and secondary customizationNever fucking ever will it exist beyond new camos at best
>>527667662>setting yourself up for total doomchad victory
Cutting edge
polar patriots
chemical agents
truth enforcers
urban legends
What two would you pick up next bros
>Can no longer destroy stratagem jammers with ultimatum
Do they really hate fun that much?
>>527667367EAT storm
>its a 120 barrage, except it drops EAT delivery pods
>>527668746urban legends and the brap bond
>>527667367Link Gun
ASMD Shock Rifle
Bio Rifle
and especially
>Lightning (Arc) Gun, a sniper rifle firing an actual lightning bolt
>>527668746urban legends and chemical agents for two "must have" items
polar patriots instead of one of the two if you just want more fun guns
>>527668746Polar patriots and cutting edge.
>>527667990nothing good will happen
the most we can hope for are general bugfixes and buffs/fixes for the new warbond gear
>>527668746Truth enforces and cutting edge.
>>527668746chemical agents and urban legends, they contain big meta items, the other three are really cool but mostly for their guns not stupidly powerful items such as AT emplacement and gas grenades
>>527667323Soon buddy, soon. (lie)
>gas grenades can make fabricators detonate and collapse bug holes
>an arc-charged grenade launcher cannot because... uh it just FUCKING CANT OK??
>>527668921there's weird illuminate shit going on in the south and freshly datamined all new squid units so there's going to be something happening on the squid front, and the current MO ends just after patch time
>>527667367Orbital Lightning Strike
singular lightning bolt fired from the super destroyer, targets the nearest/largest target to the beacon just like the railcannon
very low cooldown (~45-60 seconds) but middling damage output (enough damage to one-shot a spore charger, but not enough to kill a charger behemoth outright, maybe it strips the back armor at least)
applies heavy stun (can stun bile titans/tanks/etc for a handful of seconds)
synergizes particularly well with things like the arcthrower that struggle with TTK on large targets and could use the extra oomf of a spammable anti-heavy stratagem, similar application to eagle rocket pods
bonus points:
Orbital Lightning Storm
barrage version of the orbital lightning strike
long duration, steady rate of lightning strikes, relatively long cooldown
similar cadence/duration/cooldown to the 120mm barrage, but explicitly targeting heavies with the added utility of persistent heavy stun, but inefficient at dealing with medium/light mobs
Since the MO planets are safe for the time being, where are you diving now anon?
>>527669083Don't worry, AH will change that. The power creep has shown no sign of stopping, so its only a matter of time.
i dont like how slow the arc thrower "lightning" is
its like shooting a stream of silly string
lightning is supposed to be instant and LOUD
hitscan
>>527668752Of course they do.
>>527669263I'd be interesting in hearing why you think a 6-shot, agonizingly slow to reload support weapon, a grenade launcher, shouldn't be able to take out outposts.
>>527667367>backpack that gives you two more right arms for extra fapping power, comes with a girlfriend AI that manages the heat of the weapon and helldiver (tomboy and milf SEAF toggleable voice options)>support double edge sickle, but instead of lighting you on fire, it turns you into a Tesla tower>SEAF squad>stalwart embattlement barrage: drops 4 emplaced stalwarts + supplies>self propelled AA battery (just a Vespa with 4 linked stalwarts strapped to the front)>artillery barge: hovercraft with mortar sentries and multiple grenade emplacements
>>527667367FRV with a heavy-duty, auto-firing railgun on the back a la gausshog.
>>527669263You lost, nerftranny ;)
Give me a commissar stratagem loadout.
>>527667367Eagle Laser Strafe
>Mounted with two overclocked lascannons, functions as a precise incendiary version of Eagle StrafeOrbital Ballistic Missile
>Utilizes a laser pointer, the Destroyer launches a missile from fucking orbit that you can manually guide.Dark Fluid Strike
>Long-ass cooldown and delay, the Destroyer launches a modified hellbomb loaded with dark fluid. Upon detonation it creates a mini singularity for a short period of time, that pretty much kills everything in its radius and creates a large crater.
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>>527667323d11
>three varieties>red: max 12 reinforcements>blue: max 2 stims on you>green: resupply cooldown increased by 110%all with increased spawns, bigger enemy call-ins, and more objectives
would you dig it?
>>527669436Lets just let every weapon be able to everything. No nuance or sacrifice when making a loadout.
>>527667367Surplus support: Deploys a random piece of support equipment. 60 second cooldown.
>>527667662>gets shot by a single rocket>"That'll be 20 minutes until the next one, chuddy"
>>527669654Okay, now respond with an actual rational reason for your opinion instead of preaching like a tranny.
>>527669521>You lostYeah, no shit. The game keeps getting easier with each update and there still isn't a super hard mode to compensate the sweats who crave difficult battles.
The Halt is okay but i want a DB with Med Pen and i'll be happy.
>>527669436>I'd be interesting in hearing why you think a 6-shot, agonizingly slow to reload support weapon, a grenade launcher, shouldn't be able to take out outposts.Because the grape sized explosive on the explosive crossbow bolt can.
how is driving on gamepads btw? i got one recently and might just hook it up solely for the Better Driving Experienceโขif it's actually superior to keyboard
>Guard Dog K-9 so efficiently double-teamkilled by friends back to back that they thought it was me doing it on purpose with the Arc Thrower
It truly is the teamkiller 9000.
>>527669274We are not using the same arc thrower
>>527669625nonononono saar you come to dif 6 now i must receiving of the super samples
>>527668518Just camos on armor would be nice. It'd help with coordinating helmets and suits from different sets.
>>527670015well give me yours
>>527668518>secondary customizationCamos, absolutely. MAYBE sight and/or magazine customization for the, like, 4 secondaries that would support it.
>armour customizationJust camos. Tying perks to armour pretty much guarantees them easy future money when we don't even get all the perks for every armour class.
>>527669594gatling turret
mortar turret
eagle cluster bomb
airburst rocket launcher
you know, for maximum teamkilling potential
>>527669981>>527669436Fuck. You said "shouldn't", not "should". Damnit. My bad.
>>527669625Sounds retarded.
>>527667367Backpack that's like the rocket devastator's missiles that lets you have effectively another support weapon
>>527669854I gave you a valid reason dip shit, besides the arc grenade launcher doesn't really have an explosion to it's grenades the same way a gas or fire grenade does. But part of me thinks it might be a technical fuck up on AH's part since the grenade weirdly explode before they even go inside a bug hole. Wouldn't be surprised if its a weird hitbox problem.
>>527670010Had a dude take the new dog and i took arc resist just in case.
Saved me like 10 times and i'd smack him every time i got hit by it. He always did "Sorry :(" when it did.
This is for everyone who wants to be a sweaty tryhard and wants a game that challenges you without nerfing the player. Heres the perfect game for you
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
Stop wearing arc damage resist armor when your teammates use the teamkiller 9000. Stick close to your teammates and use the suicide vest armor instead.
>>527670342>Darktide>hardIt's just as braindead easy as HD2 with all the buffing they've done as well
>>527669625I would prefer
>D11>1 life (no respawns)>the enemies will rape any leandivers to death if you fail and you will be forced to watch in a game over sequence
>>527670581>It's just as braindead easy as HD2Malice isnt hard, bro.
>>527670010>K-9 will use teammates as a proxy for lightning jumps to valid targetsIt's evil.
>>527670342I plan on trying that out here real soon but there is no reason why HD2 can't have a super hard mode. At least fatshark doesn't bend the knee anytime someone cries.
>But muh exp and samples!Make the payout for the new super hard mode the exact same as a D10 mission. There, problem solved.
I just got Urban Legends ao I finally have a melee weapon and I want to try it. Stun Lance and Ballistic Shield, obviously, but what else do I take now?
>>527669654No man I gotta have my heavy pen 60 round magazine ar with 200 damage
>>527667367>lumberer but with chainsaw instead of cannon>exosuit but left arm is a orbital napalm shell derringer you need to get out and physically reload from its backpack, right arm is 4 las daggers>exosuit with each arm mounting only a little las talon but with crazy amounts of reloads
>>527670721Nah that dog saw a faggot with the flag and did what you didn't have the balls to do.
>>527670719damnation isnt hard either
nor aurics
nor havoc (gets just annoying depending on the modifiers)
>>527670721I haven't unlocked it yet, but I'm amazed this actually made it into production.
If someone on your team brings electricity, just do the same. Go all in on arc stratagems, armor, blitzer.
Any teammate that doesn't follow suit has chosen death.
>>527670719Neither is auric damnation or havoc 40
Welcome to the Chud Bucket
How tough are (You)?
>>527670904>"I-Its not hard! Just annoying!"Ah yes. Thats why you die every 30 seconds. Youre just annoyed, bro. Havoc 10 isnt hard either, bro.
>tesla towers do not primarily target super earth civilians
>tesla towers WILL primary target helldivers
so super earth programmers DO know how to program friendly targeting and they're making it teamkill us on purpose
>>527671048>depending on modifiersnot impressing anyone here, darktroon, with your """difficulty"""
>>527671176Uhh bro? Its more believable when the game deliberately singles you out.
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>>527670214No, you didn't. You ignored my question and started crying about how every weapon should be able to do everything like you have been for months now.
>besides the arc grenade launcher doesn't really have an explosion to it's grenades the same way a gas or fire grenade doesNone of these weapons produce an actual explosion or even a ragdolling effect, yet two of them can take out nests and fabs and the third one can't.
The Arc GL is even listed as an EXPLOSIVE weapon. It has a shockwave, it has physical stagger. It has a low capacity, it is slow to reload.
>>527671176A class citizens are naturally insulated.
I have a really hard time believing that the same people saying that Darktide's hardest modes are easy are also the same people that say old HD2 was too hard or "artificial difficulty". There are definitely some lying niggers in here. I'm starting to think this general is filled to the brim with grouchy gamer dads who lie out their ass and violently attack anyone that threatens their epic power fantasy.
>>527671265>"Uh, bro? Can you pick me up again? Im really annoyed, thats why Im going down a lot. NO ITS NOT BECAUSE IM BAD, OKAY?!?!?"Youre annoyed because youre bad and being bad doesnt let you play the game. Its okay to be a Malicelet
>>527667367Tactical Minelayer
>Support weapon with backpack that lets you deploys as many or few mines as you please wherever you desire>Can be programmed for regular explosion, Bouncing Betty shrapnel, or anti-tank>Mines take 3 seconds to arm, automatically self-deactivate after 120 secondsAnti-Tank Rifle
>Bolt-action support weapon that fires AP6 projectiles, doesn't require backpackDisposable Anti-Tank Carrier
>Allows you to store an EAT or Commando in your backpack slot while also carrying another support weapon>If it's empty, pressing the backpack button while carrying a compatible disposable AT will cause you to store it in the backpack>If there's an AT weapon stored, pressing the backpack button will drop whatever support weapon you're holding and equip the AT>Teammates can interact with the backpack to take the stored AT weapon>>527667640It still boggles my mind how fucking stupid the Blob is. They just go straight to the planets that are closest to Super Earth as if they're actually going to try to get closer to attack. Like, bitch, there are a half-dozen planets with super low decay rates we could be liberating instead.
>>527670779>At least fatshark doesn't bend the knee anytime someone cries.lol
enjoying those dueling swords on every human sized class?
>>527670721I don't think it deliberately shot the teammate as a target for jumping to enemies. I think that it was targeting the enemy. However there are two danger zones with the arc thrower's targeting. The first is a relatively narrow cone of fire between you and the intended primary target, and any targets within this narrow cone are prone to diverting the beam as collateral damage. The second cone is a fuckhuge ~160 degree cone behind the primary target where damn near anything is fair game.
In the clip, the arc dog attempted to target the bile spewer. However the teammate was within the initial danger cone, so the teammate got caught in the crossfire.
>>527671392>how every weapon should be able to do everything like you have been for months now.That was my reasoning. The ability to destroy bug holes and factories should be more limited and not handed out to every support weapon. And yes, fire grenades and gas grenades do have a small explosion. That is why those two grenades are able to take out bug holes and factories.
>>527670945it's not intentionally using the other player as a conduit, that nursing spewer was well within range, it's just that the player happened to be between the dog and the spewer so it took the zap first. like all dogs and sentries it does not have a friendly fire check
>>527671465>Implying theyre the same people
>>527667367>tank>4 seating>1st drives and can shoot a stalwart equivalent turret>2nd controls the main gun with anti-tank pen and can 2 shot a bot tank when not shooting directly at the vent>3rd and 4th are respectively left and right turrets with HMG
>>527671048Shitters always do that, they can't just admit that something is difficult so instead they use every word under the sun instead of just admitting that that something is hard. "tedious" and "annoying" are their favorite words to use.
>>527671048>>527672043>It's not hard, it's just...>annoying!>bullet sponges!>artificial difficulty!>tedious!what other copes are there?
>>527672226I think it's just one guy samefagging
>>527672043Its so crazy how people confused "Feeling challenged" with "annoyed"
>>527671925>essentially a Super Earth BanebladeAdd a chonky siege gun to the front hull that the driver can fire and I'm game.
>>527670951No. Run the suicide armor. When you run the explosive vest, your teammates will never shoot the inaccurate because of FEAR of dying with you.
>>527672180Don't forget their favorite line that they used to use at every opportunity. "90% of our weapons and stratagems are useless!" This line was parroted from slop tubers and once one retard saying it, all the other retards started saying it too. The funny is that anyone who said that line never actually tried to use anything out side of the meta picks. But still, they always repeated that same line.
>>527668746Depends entirely on what you want out of the game. Polar Patriots and Urban Legends are the two "must-haves," Chemical Agents isn't that strong except for the Gas Grenade, Truth Enforcers and Cutting Edge are more for the fun than anything else.
>>527668752That's a good thing though. The game is easy enough as it is, why would you want it to play itself for you even more?
>>527669204>Orbital Lightning StrikeSo, Eagle 110mm but on a longer cooldown?
>>527670003It's nothing special, just turn on the "brake automatically reverses" option and you'll be fine.
>>527671801That was me being retarded. What I meant was that you, the nerftroon, have been obsessively shitposting any time someone mentions changes by screaming and crying about how "we" want everything to be buffed and be able to do everything, because you're an autistic tranny that needs to be put down like the animal you are
>>527671176I didn't realize that it wouldn't primarily target civies. I will now bring the tower on my dives.
>>527672582They also do not zap SEAF troopers.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240996844331
D10 Lobby decides
>>527670342>play ogryn>mash m1>winwow hard game, I'm sure arbites won't be just as braindead as the "WAHHHH FIX MY CLASS, FATSHIT" ogryn rework
>>527670951>hey guys lets all bring teslas it would be sooooo wholesome epic wholesome keanu chungus awesome sauce! >host has removed you from the game
>>527671801The only reason everything can is because Arrowhead were completely retarded and gave the Commando a ludicrous amount of demolition force, which made it unbelievably overpowered on the bot front at the time. And to avoid shitters from having a hissy fit because something objectively overpowered got nerfed, they just gave all of the AT weapons the same capability.
>>527672574Balance has only moved in one direction ever since the buff patch dropped. At some point it needs to stop because D10 is suffering from the lack of challenge. Teamwork should be a necessity on D10. AH has rarely implemented any nerfs since the buff patch. I was beyond shocked when they actually toughened up the factory strider's feet.
>>527672837Yes, anon. Were all very proud that you can play sedition.
>>527672837>Equip shield>Hold M1>Release>Fuck up 20 chaff enemies at once, gain back the entirety of your shield>Repeat>Throw rock at mutant and one-shot itPlaying Ogryn was fun
>>527672401I've run the arc dog every game, I have yet to kill a team mate with it. These guys are doing it intentionally and just blaming the dog, they are tking shitters all of them
>>527671698>backpack is cornucopia of minesShould be the strat name
Bonus points for scattering mines and spaghetti all over when you fall over and die
>>527672963Yup, that one mistake had disastrous consequences. I'm surprised that people didn't cry when AH fixed the passive quasar charge.
>>527673030nah, you can take that same ogryn to havoc 40, that's how broken they made the giant retarded fucker
still no dueling sword nerf btw lol
>>527672934Oh no, not that, please don't remove me and force me to play with someone who wants to play along with my "chungus awesome sauce"!
>>527672554>So, Eagle 110mm but on a longer cooldown?eagle 110 that doesn't miss, applies heavy stun, and can be taken alongside the rocket pods
>>527672537>>527672367>>527672180>>527672043the faggot started xer samefagging spree again
scatposting soon to follow, rev up the mobile data!
>>527673132Good. Then there won't be a problem.
>>527673196People that actually played a high level knew how bad Ogryn was
Nice job self-reporting.
>>527672967The main appeal of this game was being a normal ass human with beliavlble weapons going up against horrific enemies that will realistically fuck you up instantly, but everyone wants to be a fucking space marine or some bullshit apparently
>>527673335your next response is "nice edit"
>>527673369>People that actually played a high level knew how bad Ogryn wasFilthy Psycher hands that keeps downing himself like a retard typed this post
>>527673369so bad he needed to be allowed to mash m1 and complete all content while taking 0 damage, or just clear the entire screen with rumbler lmao
>>527673335Sorry that not everyone is a buff begging faggot like you.
okay xir now can you tell my why this explosive, ragdolling device isn't allowed to detonate bug holes and fabs?
>>527673514can you tell me why people call them psychers when the name has been psyker for their entire existence?
if /hdg/ had their way a mission would become unrecoverable the moment a second factory strider drops in
>>527673514>PsycherYou dont even play the game
>>5276727843/4 get in here
>>527673709If it was explosive that would've killed you, also arc damage has always ragdolled
if /hdg/ had their way a mission would be complete after killing one hulk
>>527667367Not a stratagem necessarily but I want a sci-fi Lewis gun. Really anything with a pan magazine, but preferably a Lewis gun.
>>527673709>can you tell me why people call them psychers when the name has been psyker for their entire existence?Tourists that dont even play the games or look at any deeper lore beyond muh speece mahreens.
>>527673709>>527673894>also arc damage has always ragdolledthat is kinda what it's typically used for, yea
>>527673709IDK nigger, certain melee attacks and medium bot turrets can stagger and those aren't explosive. And i like said, AH probably fucked it up anyways, the de escalator will probably end up getting the ability.
If /hdg/ had their way every enemy would fold to the peacemaker
>>527673709>>527673750Because I keep forgetting that in order to be a true 40k fan, you need to have failed at English classes and spell English words incorrectly. Yes blah blah blah it's psyker instead of psycher, it's orks instead of orcs, etc etc
>>527667367>Resuscitation backpackResuscitate a fallen Helldiver if their corpse is still intact. Uses 1 stim.
>Mole hellpodA hellpod that burrows into the ground that you can hop into to avoid damage. Can pop out the top to shoot.
>Manned mortar emplacementCan shoot mortars within a certain radius. Teammates mark enemies to be hit on the map. 4AP. Could either be something sent down in a hellpod, or could be a backpack + support weapon.
>Juggernaut suitKinda like the squid armor. Let's you soak up damage until it breaks off. Slows you down.
>Eagle Seeker BombDrops a bomb that releases a bunch of seeker grenades into an area
Not a stratagem but
>decoy grenadeMakes a hologram that enemies attack until the grenade is destroyed or 20 seconds elapse
>>527673514>i'm toonking saaah
>>527674208If /hdg/ had their way rape would be legal
>>527674237>Juggernaut suitMight as well just make a suit of disposable power armor instead.
>>527673709>me shooting up outside the public library downtown
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>>527674350If /hdg/ had their way this would still be /hg/ and every thread would be flooded with Halo posters
>>527674221>Because I keep forgetting that in order to be a true 40k fan, you need to have failed at English classes and spell English words incorrectlyThis cope reminds me one time a Japanese person was watching a stream and they had difficulty understand the english streamer because they swore a lot.
If you cant get what I'm saying here, I'm calling you ESL because you need the English language to be clinical and professional for you to understand it.
In other words, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68
>>527667367a tar or a miasma to slow enemies that touch it permanantly
>>527674597Jesus christ, what the fuck is this hud
>>527674841People mod their UI to relive the glory days of Vanilla WoW way back in the day for some reason.
>>527673894it didn't kill me because i have arc armor on. Gas grenades lightly stagger you at point blank range, do not ragdoll you and will not kill you either, yet they destroy holes.
>>527673514everyone is bullying this guy because they genuinely have no response to
>>527673594Also, veteran's meta has been stacking armor piercing from your MELEE WEAPON to apply that onto your BLEED GRENADES for like a fucking year now. The top melee picks are a toothpick and a butter knife in a game that has power swords. Your game is dumb.
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>>527674841Fuck if I know, I just picked some random ogryn toonker webms out of the archive.
>>527674641SET A FIRE IN YOUR HEART, HELLDIVER
BAAAAARE YOUR FANGS
FIGHT HARD
Die well
>>527673709Gas nades shouldn't destroy spawners at all, they were good enough already but Arrowhead going to far with buffs is a line that's already been crossed and it's too late to turn back
>>527674597>saaaaar you must using the melee saar>more dps hit it like you mean it>throw more dots, more dots more dots>WE LOSE 50 DKP MINUS WHO DO THIS
>>527674597this game looks awful do people really play this slop?
What are some other resident schizos from the other generals? For example, the Halo threads have the Atriox poster. Does anyone have any other examples from the other generals? I'm curious.
>>527675398five
or four
doesn't matter
>>527675505People play counterstrike and pokemon games, and those look much worse.
>>527675176>>527674597>>527674307Last time I played dorktide was when they made that event with the two raid boss characters that shat out gas or something. Auric was piss easy with the shield Ogryn, did they changed that class since then?
>Devs officially state new GL is glitched
>so anyone using it efficiently or defending right now is in for a nice surprise when they "fix" it
Remember when the Double Edge Sickle on the week came out did Med Pen the moment you pulled the trigger? They "fixed" it later by requiring five seconds of holding down the trigger to REACH medium pen. They're gonna "fix" the new GL with a nerf.
>>527675532Do not talk about the board schizos. They will hear you.
>>527674597it's not that ogryns are bad, it's that ogryn players are bad
that right there is a classic example of a bad ogryn player who thinks just standing in the chokepoint with his shield up not attacking, not doing any disruption, and blocking line of sight and line of fire for everybody behind him is how you play ogryn
>>527675176OOOOOOOOOOOOH IM GONNA
IM GONNA
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK
AAAAAAAAAH IM TOOOOOOONKING
>paid a cheater 2 bucks to unlock half the remaining ship upgrades and get like 2k medals
And I'm going to do it again to get the rest of the upgrades tomorrow. Grinding this shit legit, especially with such uncooperative teammates, is insane, before I had any samples cheated in I was at 100 in-game hours and was BARELY able to get ONE lvl 4 upgrade.
I need a status update on Nirah's current whereabouts.
>>527675797>every enemy can only be hit by one bolt>the bolts are now medium pen>it can only kill chaff, and stun everything else (except for heavies)Bet.
>>527675797>They "fixed" it later by requiring five seconds of holding down the trigger to REACH medium pen.and then it gets another +15 damage
and then it gets another level of pen for +35% damage against medium armour
the dickle change was an overall buff, not a nerf
>>527674568Huh, the AI sounds pretty thirsty.
>Darktide "co-op games" General is so shit they need to leech off us now
Pathetic
>>527675146>sm*te>yellow toughness>plasma gun>toothpick mk4>ogryn with a working lmb>knife faggots spamming movement and dodges that the AI clearly were not designed to keep up withThe only threat at havoc 40 are unmitigated shooters until you throw down a bubble shield, until they dare to touch yellow toughness generation then any claims about Darktide being hard is a joke
>>527676109They wanted it to be power creeped sickle, it still kinda is but not nearly as free
>>527675982>Rants about bad ogryn players>On a low-intensity mission>In Malice>On the fucking bridge of "nothing fucking happens for 3 minutes"
>>527674841darktide was hit hard by autistics aping streamer huds by moving everything to the center a good while ago, it looks like shit and is completely pointless
they also have actual cheat mods similar to deadlybossmods from wow where it starts screaming when certain specials spawn and spam the chat log with POX BOMBER SPAWNED POX BOMBER SPAWNED POX BOMBER SPAWNED POX BOMBER SPAWNED POX BOMBER SPAWNED
even direction markers telling you where disablers are because they are actually that pathetic
>HELLDIVERS General
>Darktidde talk
>>527676436they can't discuss it in /copeg/ because the thread is like 99% kebab in-joke posting and 1% /pol/ racial purity dick measuring posting
>>527676085That's a good call.
>>527676109>you need to wait for Med Pen in the middle of an active warzone after already waiting to spin up the gun>teammates kill everything before you reach the proper penetration Wow, so helpful.
does the SC arrows mod still work? and hows the new warbond? I heard there was some issues with the pistol or something? and whats this about an APC being released?
>>527672395>essentially a Super Earth Banebladeexactly
>>527676436>trannynanny is upset that people are speaking their minds freely4chan is an AMERICAN site where people have the FREEDOM to say what they want. Don't like it? Then go back to (r)eddit.
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>>527675879I agree, but I didn't even read the argument, I just saw some Ogryn retard getting uppity so I made fun of him capitalising on the fact the vast majority of Ogryn players are dumber than the character they play.
>noo but i'm smart i'm not like those guys I hit enemies stop pigeonholing meCope. You play a retard, you are a retard.
>>527676710>does the SC arrows mod still work?Yes. As a rule of thumb, UI mods are WAY more likely to break with updates than model/texture/sound edits, which could be months old and work perfectly fine.
>>527676616>he NEEDS medium pen to kill shitshoot rockets, or raiders, or devastator heads, or scavs, or warriors, or the claws of hive guard while you're waiting for the heat to build up. you get medium pen at just 25% heat, it's doesn't take that long
>>527676603and thats a bad thing? go to reddit if you want a hug box
>>527676803it's okay, you're safe here, those mean /copeg/gers won't insult the slavic race in this thread
>>527667367Eagle 100kg bomb. 4 charges. It's just launch day's small radius 500kg bomb.
>>527676046bouncing on it crazy style right now
>>527676710>SC arrows modIt never stopped working
>New Pistol It has two lock on modes when it should only have one, locks on to random enemies/objects, has the old forever locking glitch like the launch Spear, and STILL FUCKING MISSES
>APCStill a rumor same as it was shortly after launch.
I finally played redditor strain after nothing but bugs and bots, holy shit does it suck dick. You basically can't run anything but fire primaries or hard hitting high capacity primaries and support for cc.
What's worse is the flame thrower support is basically unusable despite the range and power because of how fast they are and how high they jump, so no flying flamethrower builds, it's all just the same few loadoits.
>>527676616It stays heated longer and doesn't really cool down in practice so it's easy to use.
>>527676983>is it a bad thing that a thread dedicated to cooperative games in on the whole is actually about one bad one that no one plays, and even then can only manage off topic third world discussion?yeh
>>527667367A disposable suicide drone backpack. Activating it deploys the drone and lets you steer it.
200m range, detonates prematurely if shot down, AP 4 1000 damage, immobile while steering the drone but can be seated in an FRV or APC lmao, short cooldown.
Railgun deserves full durable damage, demo force that scales up alongside charge level, and a 4x scope. Change my mind.
>>527676980>he thinks it's okay for a medium pen gun to require players pretend it's not a medium pen until AH says so>when DE Sickle first launched it was simply a medium pen laser primary How's that Swedish cock taste?
>>527676436Guerrilla marketing since new update is dropping. Worked on me since I do want to see the arbites
>>527677275*and actual feedback on when the gun is in the full charge state and about to explode
*and actual feedback on when you have successfully fired a 100% charged shot
*both in the form of cool audio and visuals
>boot up the game
>MO planets empty
did they give up on the MO? lmao
>>527677275I don't think I've seen a good post with an image of her attached
>>527670342I think I will reinstall Darktide DESU. I stopped playing because of a lack of content but that was 2 years ago.
>>527676870>>527677043thanks, just played one game last night on super earth and didn't see any arrows at all, figured it was broken. shame about the pistol, though I'm not sure why they bothered with the targeting system. if anything, the stim pistol is the one that could use it.
>>527672043>>527672180>>527672537>>527673491>nerf loser still shitposting Maube ine day you'll be "good" at something other than a pve game champ lol
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>>527677419>*and actual feedback on when the gun is in the full charge state and about to explodeanon the railgun only explodes when it is at the fully charged state. it doesn't ramp up to its maximum damage and then sit there for a bit and THEN explodes, it explodes the nanosecond it hits 100%
>>527677351I think it's acceptable if they let us mod the sickle andscythe to be medium pen in the future. That way the DES STILL gets to have an identity .
Is love to stay carrying the sickle again.
Do nerf faggots like the new AR? Or do they consider it a noob trap since it uses a near worthless gimmick instead of teaching players to be hyper lethal at all times?
>>527677806and pilestedt said like a year ago he didn't think that was how it was meant to work, thought there was a brief window where it sits at 100%, and said he was going to "talk to the team" about that and adding proper audio queues for it
I'm still waiting
>>527677720Real? I've only seen the dog.
>>527677351>bufftranny obsessed with cock, thinking of sucking it 24/7no surprise there honestly
>>527677351just hit the head nigga it's not hard ffs
>>527677847>guns get ammo wheel>las weapons get Heat sink protocolsI want to believe
i wish i had a bufftranny sucking on my cock...
>>527677968the actual utility of the weapon doesn't matter, what matters to the nerftroon is that someone, somewhere is complaining about the weapon being bad
they will then swoop in and say it's actually fine, their favorite even, and they enjoy the taste of shit because they're a true connoisseur
>>527677847>Medium Penetration Sickle>but it ignites the player at 60% heatThat's it. As it stands right now by the time I'm at the heat level I want to be at everything is already dead.
>>527675505The only advantage Darktide has over Helldivers 2 is that fucking up can easily lead to team wipes and you actually need to stay on top of your enemies and kill them in a timely manner, which makes it much more difficult. There are of course cheese strats and metafaggot setups that trivialize everything anyway, but overall it feels pretty good when you're doing well because you know you're eliminating a potentially game-ending threat every other second and your team is probably doing the same. Helldivers is still a better game, sure, but I can't bear to play more than an operation or two a day because it just gets too fucking boring since there's no challenge.
That being said I can't bear to play Darktide more than a week or two once in a while because shit is just too repetetive. I suppose together they could have had everything but instead you get to pay for a Swedish grift twice (or more, depending on how long you've been plaing coop shooters).
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>>527677970Yeah. Real as in it's in the files. There's no proof beyond it existing as a string or maybe an early scrapped test unit. Or maybe it's coming tomorrow!
Well, maybe the new squids will, at least.
damn... Eruptor users look like THAT?!?
id stick my recoilless shell in his backpack if you catch me drift
>>527678426I look like this but futa
>>527678426what's that device between the legs?
>>527678108>just hit the headOkay so don't use the Double Edge Sickle then? Because I can score headshots with any gun. My point is "Medium Pen but you have to kill everything while waiting for it to happen" is fucking dumb. I just end up using my Light Pen skills and never get utilize the fact it's Medium Pen because I ALREADY KILLED EVERYTHING.
>>527677649At east I'm good at one thing, you're not even good at this game which means you're literally good for NOTHING. lmao
>>527677649>Maube ineneither good at something as easy as helldivers 2 nor at spelling
i accept your concession
>โironicโ faggots going full mask off
Aids pigs go home!
>the image that sent solotroons into a tizzy
>>527677993You gonna soi face when the new GL inevitably gets a nerf because it's glitched right now?
>>527678634Play on higher difficulty so that you don't kill everything immediately. Either that or you're using it wrong simple as
>shitters are still crying about the new AR!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240997398271/76561198103836079
D10 whatevs, i want to KILL
>>527678823>use DE Sickle the day it came out>works perfectly >oops we made a mistake let's fix that>have to relearn how you use a gun I SPENT SUPER CREDITS ON because the devs fucked up
>>527678634The Dsickle is fine. While it comparatively underperforms against individual medium enemies, it pulls ahead of its peers once you start fighting larger waves of targets. Bring a talon or senator that you can use when you only need to kill one singular medium.
>>527678868It's mostly fine, the real problem is that the support weapon version sucks dick.
>>527678983>have to relearn how you use a gun I SPENT SUPER CREDITS ON because the devs fucked upYou're making a big deal out of something very small. And why cry about super credits? Those require only a little bit of farming.
>>527678868>you can't shoot your own leg when diving backwards with it>enemies who are on fire can't ignite you just by bumping into you>enemies who are within 1m of the nozzle get stunned by it>all damage dealt goes directly to main, bypassing limbs entirely, ensuring just blasting a heavy gets it down in consistent time instead of having to aim a fucking flamethrower at a head or legany or all of these, thanks
>>527674568Logging in. Might burn normal bugs or shoot bots with zapper. Are flamethrowers viable on bots or is it a total meme?
>>527677970There's that cheat mod on Nexus that gives you a warning at like 80% charge. For most part you don't need more outside of trying to min-max Factory Striders or something.
>>527678868There's nothing to fix, it's fine. Better than the support flamethrower honestly.
>>527678983Well it was bugged so I guess it wasn't working perfectly
There is not much to relearn just shoot the guys. Maybe be less conservative with holding the trigger
>>527679175>the support weapon version sucks dick.I have no idea what the fuck the support flamethrower is supposed to do.
Is it for melting Hulks at hugging range?
Does this game really not have a way to join public lobbies or join specific S.O.S like in Monster Hunter or am I fucking blind?
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>>527679178>a big deal out of something very smallI can't wait for half the General to be bitching and moaning about the new GL being "nerfed" once the devs fix it.
>>527679526you are blind. but you can just press R to be matchmade somewhere
>>527679526Open lobbies should show up on the planet when you're hovering it, some difficulties will have more players than others so that might play a factor AND you can sort of force a refresh by tapping the quickplay button then cancelling it again
>>527679526the system that makes specific ongoing missions you can take a quick look at appear on planet surfaces sometimes bugs and doesn't show up
there's a quickplay button, it goes as specific as you do with how zoomed into the map you are, down to a planet and what difficulty you selected
>>527678983>description says damage and penetration increases with heat>it doesn't>be surprised and get upset then they fix it so it does what it says it's supposed to do
>>527678885Itโs very cool looking but very disappointing. Havenโt seen much said about it
Zapmaxxing with blitzer, arc thrower, and k9 is probably the funnest shit. Just be aware of your approach towards your mates and you'll be straight.
Idk why k9 gets hate either, it's NOT like an arc thrower shot. It feels almost as strong as the tesla tower bolt.
That Frog When I still use Sickle 1 because it fires faster.
How does one get the Strategem Hero unlocked?
>>527679994Super Goyim Edition only
>>527679637>gets "fixed">now can't pull double duty against heavies>gets directly compared to the stock GL>is either found to be a direct upgrade or downgrade>no one touches one of them either again>(You) brag about using the one no one uses anymore, despite not actually spending that much time using it, just because you think it gives you cloutthis is the reality the nerftroon prefers
>>527679994By buying the super goy edition for 20 bucks. You also get a free warbond, armor set and a 1400 RPM smg.
>>527671925>>527672395>>527676725honestly sounds like a baneblade like tank that can be called down would be the super-earth answer to the bile titan and factory strider, which i am all for, though the question is how would it be dropped down for you?
>>527679919>it's NOT like an arc thrower shot. It feels almost as strong as the tesla tower bolt.it's just an arc thrower shot with 45 durable damage instead of 100
>>527679496Flamethrowers can melt heavy enemies in acceptable amount of time but the primary use is a portable napalm strike. Just spray the bug breach liberally and watch that kill counter tick. You can also cover any ground you want and it will eventually kill whatever steps on it, it's just not very good at actually stopping said things from trying to bite your head off before dying. I suggest a Jump Pack or some other way to get the fuck away from issues that cannot wait five seconds to die.
The only difference between Torcher and Flam-40 is that the Torcher has less capacity but this is literally never a problem which makes it the superior option.
>>527679195semi viable on icbm missions specifically (scorcher hulks and zerker spawns), flanking factory striders, tanks. cbt everywhere else
>>527680358datamining agrees with me
what proof do you have it's different?
>>527680476show your proof while we wait
>open planet
>D10
>3/4 lobby
>Elapsed time on surface: 25m
>drop in
>extract in 2 mins
>get medals
>repeat
>>527679496It basically got kicked in the dick because all the shitters were screaming about the wrong thing back in Escalation of Freedom.
The fixes to the particle behavior would have been a major improvement to the weapon, except that people thought that the change to prevent it from melting Charger legs was an unintended side effect of the change (spoiler, they were two separate things and it was definitely intentional because lol Alexus). People weren't actually angry about the particle behavior making the weapon worse, they were angry because they no longer had an easy solution to legging Charger Behemoths with an AP4 weapon. And despite the particle behavior change being an overall improvement (it gave the weapon more range and consistent damage), AH were basically forced to revert it back to its worse version and slap on a band-aid fix with a particle damage buff because the people "complaining" about the Flamethrower nerf were in fact complaining about AT being worthless against heavies.
Notice how, after AT weapons actually started working against heavies, all the complaints about the Flamethrower immediately vanished into thin air? It's just more proof that it was never about the Flamethrower to begin with, and the vast majority of people whining about the game are shitters who don't know what the fuck they're talking/complaining about.
What's the "meta" solution to predditors? I found the Stalwart to work wonders at the max RPM but maybe there's something else, like I dunno the Dog Breath or the flamethrowers?
>>527680476>source: my assgo ahead and post your totally real datamined stats
is invadersfromplanet.space still the only site with all the abilities and numbers listed? It hasn't been updated since december.
>>527678868Alternate fuel mixes as magazine options.
>high-intensity fuel, higher damage and slower ignition>flammable gel fuel, lower damage but faster ignition and longer floor lifetime>lightweight fuel, faster reloads with smaller tanksAlternate nozzle options.
>wide nozzle, increases base spread and flow rate significantly>high-pressure nozzle, increases recoil and maximum range and particle velocity
>>527678112>>527678290I just want then to be med pen somehow. Give us a burn mechanism like des, give us less "capacity " and less mags, give us anything. It's bullshit we don't have a heavy laser rifle either.
>>527680161just like the EXO Suit but 2 pelicans instead
>>527680770Dog Breath to keep them off you
Cookout for an immediate "Fuck off" solution
Stalwart for general mobbing
Your choice of AT for Chargers and BTs
>>527680770bullet dog plus a primary that staggers/stuns
brap dog
walking with your team and helping them clear enemies instead of being on your own at basically all times
>bring zap dog
>pubbie walks in front of me
>dies
>have a full on meltdown
how does these low iq motherfuckers even open the game
>>527678868It's a strong primary and can kill most of the enemies in the game what the fuck would you fix about it
>>527681112>bring a pitbull to a kindergarten >it mauls the children>"this is the parent's fault"
>>527681112so true, dogsis! people need to keep a 20m distance minimum from me, just like irl!
>>527681250Flamethrowers should be area denial weapons but they don't deny area. Everything just walks right through a fucking napalm stream to ignite you.
>>527680275The Torcher deals less damage but has significantly better ergonomics. The Flamethrower handles like a pig and doesn't like when you want to turn suddenly to a different direction to deal with chaff enemies that try to come at you from the side.
>>527680770Gun Dog or Gas Dog. Sometimes just throwing down a MG Turret is also enough.
>>527681385sorry sis flamethrowers are supposed to be AT weapons for some reason because bufftroons kvetched
>>527681054>>527681063>>527681389>Dog BreathYeah, figured as much. Gonna work towards it next and try it on the next bug MO. I kinda overlooked the Cookout though, maybe I should give that a spin too.
>>527678868It's already pretty good, better than the support I'd say, but what I'd like?
>slight damage buff on all fire weapons, like 5 or 10 percent >for the pistol to have the primary range, primary to have the support range and support to have longer range>different fuel mixtures for different effects like more damage but less fuel gas mixtures a "safe" mixture that affects hell divers with burning less due to additives>back pack or nozzle systems to affect how the fire shoots out or affects terrainI love flamethrowers
>>527681112>bring zap dog>instantly kickedftfy
>>527681479But AT weapons work better than ever now, just revert the flamethrower changes.
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>>527681385Because the enemies don't care about their own will being, they'd need to program unique ai interactions for that so the only way to side step that is to just make the aoe dot pools kill quicker
>>527681683They changed how fire works as a whole don'tengage with that jobless obese tranny.
>>527681479Lol, you really don't have anything better to do but screech about your boogie man in a game you don't like. I guess you don't have anything better to do as an obese neet fuck up, huh honey lmao
>>527667367New support weapon.
Drops down, gives you a pistol.
Takes your support slot.
You can duel wield pistols.
That or some sort of radio strategem that lets me mumble into a mic until a red drops on top of an enemy unit.
>2500 hp
>can be one-shot by RR
>cannot be one-shot by EAT or queef cannon
Why do swiggers do this?
>>527681961>I guess you don't have anything better to do as an obese neet fuck up, huh honey lmaoprojection
>>527682437Induce break point disparity. I think its fun to get together and shoot it.
>>527681389The damage is exactly the same, it just has less ammo. Crisper also has the exact same damage, but a tiny tank, which makes it one of better secondaries. Range is also smaller, with Crisper being about half of Flam-40's range, but it's somewhat inconsistent due to how flames work.
>>527681385>Flamethrowers should be area denial weapons but they don't deny area.They do by killing shit. I honestly don't have a problem with a camper van sized bug that can literally survive without it's head running through fire to hug me, especially because he dies while doing so. I can agree that the flamethrowers we got aren't really realistic, being glorified propane torches, but they are certainly effective in the game.
>>527680358>>527680647>>527680878it takes 2 zaps from the arc dog to pop a brood commanders head
it takes a single zap from the tesla tower to pop a brood commanders head
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>>527680101OK that explains why I just saw it working for an L35 Super Citizen. Thanx
>>527678868Urchin fixed it
Only downside is that you need to take bushwacker with it. Which locke you out of bug hole clear.
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>>527674568thi ai is giga gay
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>>527674568AI confirmed based
>>527679919>>527680234>>527682676now test it in a public lobby as a client
it would be really fucking funny if the bug also applies to the arc drone
>>527681683>just revert the flamethrower changes.Nigger they are the closest they gotten to getting this right. The best they can do is improve the speed floor flames ignite enemies and keep the same for allies
>>527682552>bring HMG to bugs>spot a spore tower immediately >time to give this eyesore the business>takes an entire belt to kill itsheeeeeiiiiiiiit
>>527682661desu it always feels like the Crisper does more damage than the Torcher for some reason.
>>527682849>UrchinAm I missing something or does it have an almost non-existent AoE?
>>527683154It has an extremely tiny one, so it can stun stuff that walks over it
>>527683154Its pretty tiny but the path enemies take to you is very straight forward. All you need to do is just throw down one or even two and it'll catch any enemy and pile up everything behind it.
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>>527683305What if it had a not-so-tiny AoE and could stun more stuff..?
Why are all the explosive grenades so shit. Gas and fire just shit all over them for chaff clear, and they nerfed grenades killing heavies into the dust so HE sucks dick now.
>>527683858Well see next update
>>527674568your AI is a homo, sorry fags
>The coomdiver chad has chased away all the Darkturd refugees
>>527684090Yup it's ruined now
>>527683070NTA but I wouldn't mind if the flamethrowers got a slight buff in stagger scaling with their size to differentiate them more. Crisper can stay as it is, give Torcher 15 stagger and FLAM-40 20. I think the only thing this would really change is Torcher would interrupt Hunters and support would stagger Hive Guards, but it would give non-interrupt stagger to a lot of enemies which would go a long way in making the flamethrowers feel like they're doing something. Maybe some push force too, that'd be cool.
>>527682909Maybe we could give voting rights to certain automatons....
>>527684252Yeah, just I honestly think that'd be too strong.
All you gotta do is melee shit that gets too close.
>>527679884other than anemic damage the stun rounds are amazing
small damage buff and this gun will be a metaslave staple item trust
How the FUCK are you supposed to play the game with light armor
>>527684553Just don't take damage bro
>>527684553You use your sneakiness to avoid the enemy and when you do find the enemy you run away. Preferably you use your own team mates to draw enemy fire whilst during this.
t. scoutdiver
>>527684451Eeh, the real threats are Stalkers, Brood Commanders and I guess Fleshmobs who don't give a shit about any of this. The only thing it would really change is using the flamethrower would make for better webms.
Also, honestly, the FLAM-40 begs for some sort of a buff so it's not just a worse Torcher.
>>527682949>>527682740Leakbro can you confirm or deny the cult subfaction has annoying ass voteless/fleshmobs or it's all squids like it should be?
>>527685028I hope the new squids rape the shit out of you
>>527684891All it needs is a better DOT, it used to be that everyone got 50 flame DOT and flamethrower got 75. Flamethrower should have 150 DOT to set it apart.
>>527680358>>527680647>>527680878Now here's some math using datamined numbers to make it definitive the arc dog is just an arc thrower zap with less durable damage
The arc does 250 normal damage and 45 durable damage. The liberator does 85 normal damage and 25 durable damage at 2 penetration. A brood commanders head has 200 HP, 60% durability and 2 armour
The arc does 127 damage to the brood commanders head
(250*(1-0.6))+(45*0.6) =
100+27 =
127 final damage
A single zap puts the brood commander head at 73 HP remaining
The liberator does 26 damage a shot to the brood commanders head
((80*(1-0.6))+(15*0.6))*0.65 =
(32+9)*0.65 =
41*0.65 =
26 final damage
At 73 HP remaining the brood commanders head needs 3 follow up shoots from a liberator to pop
If the arc dog did 100 durable damage, the same as the arc thrower, the brood commanders head would be at 40 HP remaining after the one zap and the second liberator shot would have popped it, not the third. Here's a webm of a brood commander taking a single zap from the arc dog and then having its head popped on the third liberator shot, exactly lining up with the math from the datamined numbers
>>527684646>entire wall of laser fire >getting chipped at one means losing 2/3rd of your HP>one missed and hit 1 meter away from your leg on the ground? Launched 2 city squares awayThe mobility advantage is not worth it compared to medium armor
>>527683305How long does the urchin keep emitting it's stun pulses? I can hypothetically see myself using one to lock down the singular set of stair between the bugs/voteless, and the objective terminal that I need to poke.
>>527685265But armor class doesn't affect how far you get rag dolled
>>527685204u can melee commanders who get too close to you, they stagger and get pushed back. more reliable than dodging desu
I don't understand why players think TKing is fun or even funny. Dying to stupid shit might be, but this isn't a pvp game.
>>527685265It's only worth it against bugs. Against bots and squids you at least want medium so that you don't just become a statistic to a lucky shot.
>>527685240>AMR user>cuck fetish and teamkillerchecks out
>>527685465I do not believe you.
>>527685584He's right, but the light sissies are more likely to break their necks when they get ragdolled into a rock while a heavy Chad is more likely to just be annoyed.
>>527685265Being able to outrun and outmaneuver anything slower than a hunter is a vital asset for fighting bugs. For bots its full retard. Medium fortified or padded solves automaniggers.
>>527685530I don't think there's any one shot on squids that medium protects you from.
Game does feel balanced around medium though, like everything you don't wanna deal with you can run away from with medium. Meanwhile heavy just gets fucked.
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>wall of shield devs
>tap one with pacifier rounds
>it bluescreens and lowers its shield
>squadmates immediately blast it with their currently selected killing tools
some items just need to catalyse fun to watch situations
I love it 7/10 needs a buff
Post your drip and fitting music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tixz8XVTKU
The key to light armor on bots is throwing smoke on yourself (not your teammates)
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>>527684553I play exclusively with Light
I can just about tolerate medium sometimes but the low stamina and speed of heavy is fucking awful
And heavy doesn't provide nearly enough protection to be worth it
I'd rather dive for cover than stumble towards it getting shot to pieces.
>>527685240Damn, Nirah looks like that?
>>527686094My favorite shit is shooting bots with the warrant and ripping through their shield and taking their arm off holding it.
>>527684553use one that gives additional survival such as fortified, medic, padded
play bugs and learn how to dodge each of them
be good at prestimming
>>527685908From full hp no, but medium has more wiggle room to survive taking some extra damage from alternative sources. Things like you get ragdolled and an enemy gets a free hit on you before you regain control.
I'm my experience heavy is just fine vs bots, and can work vs squids if you run jump pack. I am very quickly starting to warm up to the medium unflinching sets that are 50% of the way to heavy armor rating, but also have the unflinching and radar ping passives.
>>527686309stamina systems in mil sims are just fucking retarded
like arbitrarily running out of gas in a firefight is dumb and gamey
makes me want to run supply pack or medic armor all the time just so i have more stims to dump on the stamina bar
>>527670779>At least fatshark is composed of bonafide faggots who worship ugliness and hate their customersftfy, sloptider. They're all Swegroes and share many of the same problems, but Arrowhead manages to be the lesser faggots.
>>527685240What the FUCK why do I feel the need to MASTURBATE?!?!?!
>>527683463I guess the AI is an ass man
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>>527686130it's not clichรฉ, it's *classic*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKEdd_H0XY
>>527685265>launched 2 city squares awayBlocks, you third-worlder. They're called city blocks.
>>527686617Have they fixed the female faces yet?
>>527686094So we're at the point where you people invent fictional situations that never happened to cope with dropping 10 dollars on Arrowhead's latest low quality slop like a good goy.
>>527686598>>527686309You don't need to be bound by a stamina bar.
>>527685240bros they're taking our women and brainwashing them to turn against us
wtf do we do???
>Hmm, I wonder how does this weapon look with this patt-ACK
>>527686943I used to love dead sprint before pre-stimming was a thing but now it just kind of makes me sad.
>>527685204look at this nerd using math in a video game to put numbers to how a weapon feels.
you gonna bust out a calculator if i ask you which weapon feels the best to fire?
>>527686908Fix??? Oy vey, what's there to fix, what are you, transphobic?
>>527680039made to rape me
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240998070038/76561198086479783 D10 Bots
>>527686924anon I haven't spent anything since buying the sloppa citizen edition. why so bitter and upset? I got the credits from the based glowing arrow enjoyers. in fact I already have enough for the next bond + slopstore page and will get the credits for the one after that before it even comes out. new rifle is fun, underpowered but hilarious and not incapable if you can aim a little. seethe at that if you really need to, be my guest.
>>527687301Fuck fatshart, but can I get this without the reddit jakfaggotry that only underageb&s like? Thanks.
>>527686943>post nerf gloves of running urgently booster>have to stim anyway after using itIT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT IT'S SHIT
>>527687301>play for 5000 hours>laugh at trannies>butthurt tranny dev gives me my money backOh shit, that dude found the ultimate cheat code
>>527687196>>527687301You keep posting that like it's funny or something.
>>527687470You fags will stim over anything, is this a light sissy thing I'm to HEAVY to understand?
>>527687494>Everyone who disagrees with my shilling is the same person!Wrong, fatshart apologist. I only posted the first one. I even insulted the second fag for posting one with a jak.
Don't forget to check the shop in between dilations.
>>527685889>For bots its full retard.I know a botfag who does pretty well with light and jetpack. Like I rarely ever see him die to anything. And when he does its due to ragdolling.
>>527687903I don't remember what anon said and obviously I didn't take the screenshot. Probabably them coping for HD2 beating them so hard when it came out and spouting that bullshit despite being parasitically attached to slophammer 40k.
>>527687684Pivoting and pretending to be someone else because you got called out? Cute.
>>527667367Democracy Drafts
>can carry the case like an SSD>has a few beers in it>helldivers can grab a can and toss it or drink it>5% damage resist for 30 seconds after drinking, doesn't stack but the timer resets when drinking>5% health heal per drink>DRUK effect starts negligible but intensifies the more you drink>makes terminids look extremely fuckable
Ignore these fags arguing let's dive
Will the new squids rape or be raped?place you're bets
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>>527687494>>527688181nigger
i dont even play shittide i just like laughing at 40k troons
>mo planets liberated
>bugiggers immediately dive CRACKA 2 instead of veld because it doesn't have predophiles
>doesn't have mega cities either
>botfudds steal the dss
"bug divers" deserve the worst
>>527678914nvm bros I'm just retarded and didn't see the armor chip off kek
>>527688396Only if you get traitor barraged when you attempt to drive the frv
>>527688409>bipedal enemies with clearly exposed heads, no helmets, as if it would matterthey're going to get annihilated
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>>527688489You're aware that the DSS moves automatically to the 2nd most populated planet once the planet it's stationed at gets liberated, right?
>>527688396after more than 3 bottles you can't get in any seat of the FRV other than driver
>>527688489Drop the "gi". It's cleaner.
>use liberator carbine on predditor bugs
become twitchy eyed schizo, never catch a breather
>use punisher on predditor bugs
absolute snoozefest, need to have a window playing something in the left top corner
>>527688704fuck off we're full
>>527688413The dorktide fag even went out of his way to set my post as himself as if everyone else who uses 4chanx doesn't already know it's an option.
>>527688413I don't even play it either, which is why your shitty reddit "humor" doesn't work me.
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shut the fuck up about dorktide already
>>527688898You have a lot of darktide memes for someone who doesn't play it.
>>527688870>use bad weapon>game hard>use good weapon>game easyEasy there Einstein.
>>527689239Yeah, I remember back before /hdg/ split off from /coopg/ and all the fucking seething sloptiders had at HD2's success. Rubbed in by picture proof of all the retardation fatshart's devs have gotten up to.
Helldiver... I need your strongest sloptider seethe images...
>>527667367Guard Dog - Golden Retriever
>Drone with manipulator arms>Can carry SSSDs>Can carry SEAF Artillery Munitions>Can carry Automaton Skull (Samples)>Can carry Terminid Egg (Samples)>Can carry Support Weapons or Backpacks (Keep a spare EAT on the drone with another one on your back for example, or bring items over to a teammate)>Will automatically reload completely empty Support Weapons on your back (will not reload the weapon even if it has 1 round in the magazine otherwise)>With no reason for the drone to be stored away on your back like weaponized drones, pressing the "stowaway" button will instead order the drone to drop the item it's carrying>Attempting to pick up e.g an SSSD while the drone is equipped will automatically have it pick up the item instead of yourself
>>527689495Honestly don't blame them. With time I came to realize Arrowhead is as bad as Fatshark, if not worse, and Helldivers 2 happened by pure chance. It must give them huge "it should have been us" vibes when another Swedish scam company gets all the money simply because they accidentally made something fun. Payday 3 fags probably feel the same, if they even exist.
>>527689495that was literally all one guy, our splittroon who has been shitting the place up for ages this is just a small sample
you guys were new to the general and fell for it, the /coopg/ers kept discussing helldivers while ignoring the autist and it eventually fizzled out as they either started using /hdg/ or stopped playing the game
>>527689495>and all the fucking seething sloptiders had at HD2's successi dont think thats real. im pretty sure all the people who played darktide ALSO just bought helldivers too
Darktide looks pretty cool but I can't stand all this "+9.8% damage towards goblins while experiencing gender euphoria" rpg shit. And it seems crucial in the end game, stacking all the buffs and shit no?
I would buy it if this didn't exist, whatever it is
>>527688898> First target 4Genuinely made me laugh out of confusion
>>527690293>>527690329>Implying dorktide doesn't deserve to be shit onI know about the faggot deliberately trying to force a split by spamming /hdg/ threads before it was even decided to leave. I was there and deliberately used /coopg/ for a long time. However, I always figured (and still do) that it was a seething sloptide faggot who did it.
>D10
>Have to tell a newfag level 70 micnigger to stfu and shoot the Fortress turrets with his AMR
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>>527690205I like it but I think it could be tweaked.
>Will automatically reload completely empty Support Weapons on your back (will not reload the weapon even if it has 1 round in the magazine otherwise)>With no reason for the drone to be stored away on your back like weaponized drones, pressing the "stowaway" button will instead order the drone to drop the item it's carryingJust make is so it reloads when you press the backpack button. Dropping is pretty pointless since it doesn't really have to dodge around, just follow you, so it should be easy to interact with manually and Swedes even left a similar feature of putting things in storage accidentally for the FRV and explosive barrels, so it should be easy to implement.
Slave drone is a great idea but reloading guns on your back will never happen cuz it'd need a whole bunch of custom animations due to Swede autism (based)
>Not even a warbond page fix
>>527690439Outside of very specific builds you can ignore that shit. Even in that picture maybe three icons really matter and one really should have had it's own indicator somewhere else in the UI.
But yes, RPGshit is pretty core to Darktide ever since they changed the character choices from "pick 5 things" to "pick 50 things".
>>527686130time to smash some bots on Ironsta- I mean Vernen Wells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMN5LHUF7-c&t=1s
>>527690790Having the drone constantly float around you with the intention of it being interactable sounds horrible and is 100% prone to frustrating moments when you're in cramped spaces or need access to something fast. It seems far more functional for the idea to work by the drone having a drop button, instead of you taking things off of it directly.
>>527685028He's just reposting IronS1ght's fanfiction bro
The flamethrower flame range needs to be longer.
>>527691671its funny how much further the sterilizer shoots
>>527673165>Fall over and die, backpack comedically extends like a flag and shits out minesalso a good way to lose your support weapon.
>>527691671It did used to be. Then people whined and complained and forced Arrowhead to revert it.
>>527667367i've already pitched this a number of times
>AP4>Each swing releases a short range cleaving projectile about 3-5 feet in front of you, can pierce through most enemies>Enough charge for about 30 to 60 swings, recharge with ammo/supply pack>When loses charge it drops to AP2, loses projectile
>>527692215something about this post reminds me of /fhg/
>>527667367Armory pod that lets you change gear.
>>527690329I quit playing Darktide because they refuse to make a new staff for Psyker since release and keep giving it guns. Fuck your guns. Im playing the space wizard. If I wanted to use guns I'd play a vet.
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>>527692472I spoke to fatshit and they said they don't give psyker good things because of you, specifically
they hate you
>>527692731Im black. They would never admit that.
>>527692472>Fatshark>is swedish>shitty content updates once every 6 months>Arrowhead>is swedish>shitty content updates that requires 6 months of patching>Iron Gate Studios (Valheim)>is swedish>shitty content upda-- ... wait what fucking updates?!I'm noticing a pattern
>>527690674i understand the suspicion but i am fairly sure it was a seething deep rock slopper
>>527692575silly tediz faction would be so blessed to fight
>>527693089you mean to join right?
>>527692215that's not how power swords work even in 40k
>>527692967How Sweden accomplished anything with a work ethic like this is beyond me.
>>527692575>no permissionAieeee
>>527692919What's your favorite support weapon?
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>>527693127only if we get von kripplespac's drip
>>527693293This isn't 40k genius
>Want to play bots
>Can't pick anything but the shock GL
Fuck. I minmaxed the fun out of bots.
>>527693861oh right I forgot to try this thing out on them yet
>>527693445Im really liking the arc thrower and flamethrower
>>527693954Its just so easy. Bot patrol? Just target the hulk, first shot stuns it and the arc will damage/kill the rest. Hulks/Tanks/Turrets just need a few shots to kill and anything remotely closeby gets nuked by AoE.
does urchin stun factory striders
>>527690439>And it seems crucial in the end gameThere's usually certain stats that become evidently good or bad with experience
Snipers for example do so much damage that even if you only get shot once out of every 10 games, resisting them is still work it to avoid the one shot.
>>527693374List of Swedish inventions
>Dynamite>
>>527690439Welcome to why HD2 succeeded and Darktide died. That type of RPG shooter is outdated for the exact reason you explained, its boring to have to figure out meta builds either through trial and error or via online guides.
>>527693374>>527692967>Hyper successful studios that also have work life balanceIm jelly desu
>>527692919Why the fuck are you black?
>>527670201I like the idea of an offensive backpack slot that aren't guard dogs
>>527670201That would be kino, but I want an arc firing mode, so I can lob a volley over walls at bots
>>527694597you are brown and angry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swedish_inventions
New guard dog kinda sucks. Feels like it needs a visual cue that it's charging or something, because I have no idea when it wants to shoot or not.
It doesn't feel like it's covering my back, or assisting me killing things. Feels like I'm kinda just gambling to see if the dog will work or not.
>>527695868I find it good vs bots, because even one shot will stun a hulk
>>527695540>you are brown and angryI'm not Swedish though
how do you guys stop yourselves from installing gooner mods?
>>527695053Its not my fault...
>>527696223Damn im hungry bros
>>527696409god looked at your soul and went off your vibe, so yeah it is
>>527695540Sweden helped invent gnome?
>>527696134It's just way too inconsistant and impossible to read. Like I can't tell if I'm outside of range, it's not able to see the target, or if it's got to recharge or something.
>>527696363Laziness.
Though if there were a mod to change all the shitskins on the ship to cute little anime girls, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Especially if they replaced the shipmaster's voicelines by splicing in some VN's lines. Imagine hearing
>Okaeri, onii-chan!instead of some stupid shit like
>got a lotta samples, huh
in what situations would i ever use the double eged sickle over the regular sickle? if theres heavy army arent i just using my support weapon
>>527695540>vodkadamn sweden is really reaching to try to seem historically relevant
>>527697112why are there no crew replacement mods, anyway? It seems trivial to do since "we" can already mod our player models without having to redo any animations or anything like that
>>527697174If you're going a flame kit for bugs i.e. wearing flame res. armor, flamethrower and such
>>527697265You will enjoy the globohomo shitskins or else.
>>527697265That's what I don't get.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nexus disallowed them because it'd be replacing their precious shitskins, but there's no reason there shouldn't already be several up on other sites.
>>527696223Don't forget the legendary curry banana pizza!
Btw I'm a pineapple GOD. I deserve an apology, NOW.
>>527696363I don't.
I just don't turn off capes though, the moment you do that and it's over.
>>527697174if you're wearing heavy flame armor it does zero damage to you until it hits max ramp.
It's fucking garbage though.
>>527697385>>527697354i just fell for a coomer bait pic and acidentally found the most simple edit ever. It's just a LUT edit but it's at least proof that they can be edited. How has no one done it yet?
>>527696497>Enemy near>Maybe shock, maybe notIts just extra death anon don't stress it so much
>>527667367Bro just bring back the Shredder Missile Strike from HD1. The Super Destroyer already got the missile pods for them so hurry the fuck up and bring em back.
I wanna fuck up everyone's day.
>>527697174You can kill everything squids have with it + any flame resistance armor. Its pretty nice, you can put anything you want as stratagems/side arms/nades then.
Man I'm sorry for recommending rocket pods last night. I don't know what the fuck happened but they feel a lot worse than they used to.
>>527697893Yeah, the targeting was never perfect but I'm certain it got worse after the 60 day patches.
>>527694198ok yeah its strong. but ill probably start using heavy siege ready instead of good ol enforcer because reloads take forever
>>527698074Yeah its real slow on the reload, but you typically dont need to mag dump as much as when fighting bugs and killing chargers/biles thankfully. I think its 3 to the eye of a hulk to kill one.
>>527697893We all make mistakes.
>>527688704Cheers
we tore bugs a new one
When I didn't kill 3 of you with the arc thrower. Sorry.
>>527697893>the one possible use for rocket pods>delete one thing and one thing only>the one thing rocket pods can't do>delete one thing and one thing onlyl o l
>Bots
>Drive to the Convoy on the other side of the map
>Someone calls in the objective flag while the Convoy is alive and walking over the flag
Yeah, that team wasn't going to finish that mission.
>ship crews have composite meshes unlike our armor and helmets and can't be changed with the current mod tools
>i.e because of this, only the DOs armor can be changed and not his head
>can't change anything but the LUT on other crewmates
positively grim
>>527690439Being autistic about +5% VS goblins type numbers only matters once you start autistically chasing specific breakpoints against specific foes. Mastering the fundamentals is more important, and if you can't cite a specific breakpoint that you're chasing then you're generally better off with something generic like attack speed or stamina.
Did we get that super earth cape?
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>>527698861explain this chud
>>527699446Have some patience, that's a lot of work for a small indie team of only 150 people.
>>527690447You laugh, but that picture was in response to the launch day tooltips that would spout shit like
>+15% for 5 seconds after successfully blocking an attack15% what? Nobody knew. One of fatshark's game devs had a hard on for obsfucating game mechanics. He had extremely fond memories of schoolchildren exchanging bullshit video game rumors on the playground, and hated data miners and the internet for analyzing the game and the optimization of known variables.
>>527699494this is apparently done by forcefully attaching the helmet to the top of the (modded) heavy marksman body armor. His nose and chin will clip out of the helmet every now and then. The crew has no typical armor to attach anything to, their entire model is a composite mesh, whereas the DO's is just his head.
>>527697893What were they thinking when they shifted the damage/armor pen from the explosion to the missile projectile.
>peacemaker
>single fire pistol
>85 damage per bullet
>AP 2
>Verdict
>single fire pistol
>125 damage per bullet
>AP 3
Like honest to god. Do they not have a basic balance chart in their game that says "hey AP2 equivalent weapons should do more damage per bullet than the AP3 gun."
>>527699564We can expect the release date for that cape to double now that most countries have been unbanned. The Swede now has to make two (2)! capes.
>>527699774>9mm>lol im ok>.45>stopping powah
>>527699774The Verdict used to be AP2 then they made it AP3.
>>527698507it's not even that, they used to be hyper accurate and go for heads on heavies. Now they just come in from random angles and hit random body parts which is fucking awful to play around.
>>527699739I mean that makes sense, most things have explosive resistance. With how tight the explosion is, it'd be even worse to put all the damage in the boom.
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>>527699943I totally forgot about that, think that was back when senator was ap3.
Thank fuck they were retarded enough to go, "hmm senator needs to be punchier, lets just make it ap4".
D10 Bugs on Crack two since no one else here wants to make a thick ass bug lobby
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>warrant
>gyro jet
>damage gets worse at range
Summer Swimsuit warbond when?
>>527699952true, but I think the explosion made them feel more consistent even if a missile or two missed. They would be pretty close to the target so it was okay overall.
>>527700370the mythical JAR-5C Concussive...
anyone else get the bug where you die with a hmg and then when you pick it up it's mmg? the first time it happened i thought someone just took my gun and dropped their poi mmg but this time nobody had any kind of mg besides me the entire game
>>527700185can't join timed out
>>527699698And now HD2 is ruling coop games with its clear simplistic math while Darktide is dead or something, who cares
>>527700608Need Coal-chan morale boost stratagem!
>>527700370>JAR but shotgun versionYes please, don't care if it has the scatter of an early morning pee give it to me
>>527700370isn't that the breaker incindiary?
>>527701036>>527700724
so we are getting a bot MO tommorow right
>>527700867we try again, re-booted.
D10 bugs on icy planet
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>be host
>have my marker on the map
>am heading to my marker
>it's bugs, and spores
>team ignores my mark and goes to nearest thing visible on the map instead
>one of them goes a step further and starts solofagging away from even them
>he calls supplies on himself
this is what happens when you remove all consequences for being kicked
arrowhead is genuinely fucking retarded
>>527701223i fucking hope so
tired of seeing calamari and roaches
>>527701223100% squids unless they don't show their hand with the <!> icons
>>5277012433/4 now, Charger bugussy needs you!
Get crushed today!
jumping back into the game after a 3 month break, is the cowboy bond worth it? i could use a secondary that isnt nade launcher or mini nuke
Lock the supply stratagem to host only. Quickplay trash already gave up their rights on deciding what mission they want to play. They'll be fine giving up their right to decide where on the map they're going to go. They're born followers.
>>527701036What are you on about? Morning piss is the most laser accurate stream of the day
>be host
>die
>3 teammates do not reinforce
>one teammate drops his own support weapon to steal my different support weapon
>1 minute goes by, politely bingbong button to be reinforced
>teammates do not reinforce
>wait 30 seconds before another bong, 2 more times
>no reinforce. theyre not even fighting theyre just walking around not reinforcing
>kick everybody and still feel bad because I'm a beta cuck
why do they make me be mean
>>527701908Have you considered it could've been an ion storm
I think this supposed Cult subfaction should be the real faction and not relegated to a subfaction gimmick, lord knows illuminate need the units.
>he believed the AI generated leaks
oh.. anon... I..
>>527702215hello Ironshitter :^)
>>527701525>Charger bugussyhrrng
>>527702034no it wasnt an ion storm. we were on the super city bug planet with sandstorms in the last mo
>>527701749Cowboy bond is pretty decent across the board.
>>527701749Rifle is great, good knockback, accuracy, etc with good power and med pen. Pistol is great, easily my favorite side arm when I actually want a gun since it lets me pop a few things and then just holster it without having to worry about reloading. Hoverpack is fun. Armor is good if you want to use the senator or bushwhacker. Grenade isโฆ an explosive grenade so who gives a shit.
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How much do you think he's seething because his epick paypig leak got leaked?
>>527703375I can't find his patreon or any mention of payment
>>527703375>be leaker>get mad when things get leakedHeh
>>527701223hope it's some shit tied to vernen wells so we get a fucking SEAF stratagem already
>>527700608buh buh BASED
black leandivers with pasty nordic diving men
Reddit Creek wasnt hard.
You were all just bad at positioning with an enemy that can shoot back.
>>527703375Would his patreon backers be civilly liable for enabling corporate espionage if , say , the EUrocrats were to track him down and put the boot on him? Asking for a friend.
>>527667367"Guard dog" Wolfhound
A Guard dog featuring EAT on its underside
Pressing the backpack activation key will have the guard dog launch the rocket at your crosshair with some inaccuracy for its position relative to you
30 second recharge before its ready again
>>527703375this entire thing about alleged leak paygating feels like some kind of sloppy narrative shift after 'THE LEAKS ARE FAAAAKE IRONSIGHTS IS LE FAAAKE!!1!' has obviously and completely fallen through,done in service to some retarded grudge of the kind discord trannies who keep lists would hold, therefore I automatically give it no credence
>>527697893they target reinforced scout striders over everything else monsieur
>>527703375Reminder he's paid by Arrowhead and all the "leaks" are official advertising.
>haven't touched the DCS since squids got to earth
Have they nerfed it? The ergonomics seem worse than before.
>>527704748at one point it had good ergo for some reason, then they "fixed" it, and now its terrible ergo makes sense with the attachment system
it has the same base ergo as the dominator, but the 10x scope makes it much worse
>>527704917>it has the same base ergo as the dominatorThat has to be an oversight.
>>527704449I don't know if the paygating is true but the videos are ban-on-sight on any leakcord. The current narrative is that it would attract sony assassins but what harm would a video do that pictures of the leaked content wouldn't?
>Pssht. Reddit Creek wasnt hard.
You were all just bad at positioning with an enemy that can shoot back.
>>527701749entirely worth it for the hoverpack alone, but the lever action is also good on bots and squid overseers
pistol is a great oh shit that lets you magdump something without worrying about reloading since it can fire as fast as you can click
grenade is mid, just a frag with a longer fuse but bigger blast radius
armor is to taste and booster is whatever
>>527704917>>527705018oh my mistake, it has 5 more ergo, to compensate for the slightly lower damage :)
but yeah, the 10x scope obliterates that difference and then some
>>527704109Also there were less viable loadouts, LibPen was SHIT during that time, rockets were infiniate and automatons shot through walls so unless you were a newtype you carried shieldbackpack to make that shit playable.
>Pssht. Reddit Creek wasnt hard. You were all just bad at positioning with an enemy that can shoot back.
when did they change it so that you can aim during a jump? jump pack is hecking epic now
>>527705179>>527705368Dumb faggot screwed up his awful post hahaha
QUEER!
>>527705179i'd give a 23 yo dermott head
no homo
Some of you don't understand just how brutal bots were on release
>Rocket devs had pinpoint accuracy and rockets did more than just tickle you, they also had no cooldown on attacks and no reload
>machine gun devs could laser you down from 50 feet away, if you turned a corner into one you were just dead
>cannon turrets and tank turrets were nearly undodgeable, you'd have to run parallel to them and that only worked if you were a good 100 metres or more away
>every operation above 7 came with +50% cooldown and either -1 stratagem slot or +100% call in timer
>all orbitals were a joke, good luck bringing a 380 barrage and doing anything at all with it. Bring the railcannon and kill one hulk every five minutes kek
>500kg eagle radius was illegally small, 110s were inconsistent to the point of being unusable, clusters were surprisingly good but everyone only brought basic eagle strikes.
>all turrets were literal paper, dying to a handful of rockets, completely useless to set up crossfires. Also rocket sentry was just a worse AC sentry in every conceivable way
>spear was broken, quasar didn't exist, recoilless rifle needed pinpoint accuracy to slot a hulk through the face, needed to hit the vents on tanks and cannon turrets to kill them. Autocannon was goat if you weren't an aimlet
Every mission was just a variation of either shield and AMR or just AC and heavy explosive resist armour if you felt like a badass. Run the 500s exclusively to coinflip tanks and hulks and then the orbital laser because it was the only orbital that did anything. The only upside was none of those silent turrets that infinitely ragdoll you and no factory striders, but factory striders are nothingburgers regardless. To me it's still the most soulful time in HD2 history and I won't be proven wrong
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>>527667367>All these crazy ideaHonestly give us a Star Shell orbital with a 30 second cooldown that we can use to light up dark ass maps.
>>527705170I have no concrete comment about the footage being blacklisted. That explanation is plausible, or it could be a paygating conspiracy if that wasn't all too likely some troonery tainted rival talking, else it could just be discord niggers being retarded discord niggers. It looks pretty real to me, that's my main takeaway in a realm where every major real leak often pre-prophesied and expected in advance by anons here has had one dedicated thread shitting retard here screaming that it was fake.
>>527705615OPS and 500kg were just skillchecks, and it was easier to use them vs bots because bots were just as slow and immobile back then as they are today. The only enemies you really had any excuse to miss with the old 500kg were the charger and bile titan.
>>527706720yeah but that permanent +100% call in timer made the timing more of a luck thing except vs tanks mostly
>>527705170I can see it being deleted by sony on the leak subreddit or even twitter. But a private discord? That sounds like discord politics to me
>>527703375what did i miss
>>527706814The rest of your points were all valid, but OPS and 500kg were both useful back then. I honestly kind of liked the 500kg's old radius. It made it more practical to call it in danger close than eagle airstrike or today's 500kg bomb. I kind of wish that we had a 250kg bomb eagle option for just dropping one precise but smaller bomb onto things like ye-olde 500kg. I guess eagle strafing run is almost like that vs some targets after several rounds of buffs.
>>527707028private discords get moderated by discord the corporation for their contents all the time
leaker's twitter got nuked when he leaked megacities the week the title update hit
how strong would be a realistic 500kg? I assume at least as strong as a hellbomb
>>527700608>That big? This is normal for Helldivers. Oh right, you haven't met Big Rick. He can walk on his like a third leg.
This fucking terminigger just smacked your ass. What the fuck are you gonna do about it?
>>527705615No, you were just clueless about the game
>>527707028Go post it on the leaks discord or the astral rift. You'll get banned.
>what if megumins was le grey
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>>527707280Not tremendously strong by historic bomb standards. This WWII era bomber can be armed with a 2500kg bomb. Two of them at once.
The FW-190, a single engine fighter, could potentially be equipped with a 1000kg bomb if pressed into a fighter bomber role.
>>527667367Danger Close Support Barrage
>cousin to 380mm Walking Barrage, it centers on the nearest helldiver(s) to the beacon like a railcannon and follows them for the duration much like a temporary traitor barrage>directly shells enemies intelligently around the supported diver with 120mm shells, displacing shots where necessary to maintain a minimum safe distance for the upgrade level of the strat shells, not accounting for travel time and your movement>if you sprint through it toward advancing enemies you might eat your own shells, otherwise staying put or a creeping advance is totally safe and a jog generally risks only ragdolling>if nothing exists in the radially targeted kill zone it dumps shells randomly outside the safety zone. Prefers to throw these unlocked dud shells where the Helldiver is looking?>sweet spot outside the safety margin for auto targeting isn't gigantic, it very much wants you to stay danger close as advertised in order to not totally obsolete other big gun barrages>cooldown between 120s and 380s as a precision tax?
Is the double edge sickle supposed to feel weak? Maybe I have a skewed view on whats powerful since I'm new, but it takes like 6 seconds of sustained fire on a bile spewer's ass to kill it while the Tenderizer or Knight make them explode in no more than a second.
>>527707863no primary kills bile spewer asses fast (unless it's explosive)
>>527707863>shooting the butyou had a medium pen gun in your hands, shoot the head
>>527707863The DSickle is for prolonged engagements. It falters compared to a lot of ARs and SMGs in terms of time to kill for a single medium target. Then it overtakes its peers and starts mogging them when it comes to killing the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th in a row.
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>>527707863You'll want to aim for its head, especially when the de gets med pen
>>527707863>takes like 6 seconds of sustained fire on a bile spewer's assthese are the people who endlessly begs for buffs, by the way
>>527707863Spewers fatass butt has something like 90% or 95% durable so don't bother unless using an explosive weapon.
>>527707863>He fell for the 'glowing parts are the weakspot' trapWelcome to Helldivers. You play the swiggers' way, or suffer.
high explosives to the body, or medium penetration to the head
Isn't it really dumb to park a super destroyer right over the top of orbital defence cannons? It seems kind of contradictory to prioritize their destruction because they're such a large threat, yet park the exact asset you're trying to protect on top of it to achieve that.
I said I'd draw her and it only took me a week to remember to do it
I took 10 minutes to do it because i have work tomorrow
enjoy lads
>>527708493It could be that Super Destroyers are too small to be effectively targeted. Judging by the interior, SD's are laughably small ships by any standard. While we may only see SD's due to swede laziness, SEAF likely employs much larger starships that transport the bulk of the manpower and material that is necessary for actually occupying worlds.
>>527708885ZAMN! LEANDIVERS LOOK LIKE THAT?!?!?!?
>>527708885WOAH LEAN DIVER? UH BAZONGAS?
>>527707280500kg is about ~1000lb class while the real heavy hitters on most jets tend to be around 2000lb class. US 1klbs bombs have about 200kg of filler while the 2klbs have about 400kg. Hell bomb probably beats both by a margin even if it probably isnโt as powerful as something like a Davy Crockett irl, or something like a Katie shell on an Iowa which had a yield around the nukes dropped on Japan in a smaller volume than a hellbomb
Chin miniguns being 100% explosion resistant is some top tier retardation
>>527708951I second this, given the size of the hellpod launchers to the rest of the ship. Less a proper warship than an armed landing ship like the rocket barges from WWII
>>527708885Helldivers 2 if it was good.
>>527709174explosion resistance in general is a retarded mechanic
>>527709145>>527707280Modern planes have trended towards smaller bombs with more precise fire control systems. WWII was the age of big bombs. The British Lancaster could carry the 10,000kg "grand slam" bomb.
>>527667367Since the introduction of the Mechs and their limited uses, I have been wishing for two strategems.
The first is a repair tool to fix the mech. Maybe it's a support "weapon" that uses it's ammo pool to heal and replace the arms if they're broken off (maybe even just a sidearm like the healgun but, y'know, for this excersize it's a strategem
The second is a tool to rearm the mech. Maybe an ammo backpack that refills part of the Mech's ammo
I want to feel like a battlefield engineer.
Either that or just remove the limit on mech calldowns... I'unno
>>527709519We should use those to blast bug nurseries.
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>>527708885WOWZERS! HUBBA-HUBBA! AWWOOOOGA! BA-BUMP-BA-BUMP-BA-BUMP! HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA! ARF ARF AWWOOOOOOOO! BOOOOIOOOIOIIIIOIIIIINNNNGGGGG! HELLO MY BABY HELLO MY HONEY!
>>527707508You don't own the game and even if you do you're a newfag
pipe down while the vets talk shop, alright buddy?
>>527709431it was an honor de-escalating the car with every one in it off of a cliff
>>527709684im still convinced it was the landing lmao
>>527708951It's much like an actual Destroyer class ship: A hull, a bridge, and a fuckload of guns.
>>527709684>using the jeetmobileIm sure they deserved it.
D10 r*dditor bugs:
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>>527709618*Tongue rolls out like a carpet*
*Stamping my foot like a rabbit in heat*
*Eyeballs pop out of my sockets*
*Running so fast that I am temporarily immobile due to the lack of friction between my feet and the ground*
I haven't played for a few months. Did they adjust bot accuracy? They seem to hit much more consistently and its a very high percentage of headshots that nearly or flatout insta kill me.
>>527710012Destroyer class ships can still house a crew of a few hundred men. The super destroyer doesn't appear to have room for more than a few dozen crew. The majority of its volume is occupied by space to store the Eagle and Pelican.
>>527708885OOOOOH
OOOOOOOOOH MY GOOD
LEANDIVERS... LOOK LIKE THAT? LEANDIVERS REALLY LOOK LIKE THAT?
>>527707494Attach a yeetpod to his head, don't want to waste ammo
>>527710205we have plenty of space-efficient sleeping drawers below deck
>>527707494I can kill 3 of these in the time it takes me to kill 1 charger and 5 in the time it takes me for an impaler.
Bile Titans need a buff asap. All their attacks stunlock them and they get raped by every heavy pen weapon.
good morning sirs please kindly do not redeem the jetpack
>>527686130https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6AHRqgG9vQ
>>527671698>It still boggles my mind how fucking stupid the Blob is.I wouldn't blame the blob. You're dedicated enough to be in a niche thread dedicated to this game.
The average dudeweed stoner coming home from his part-time job and deciding to blow a couple hours on a D6 operation has nothing to communicate to him what planets should be prioritized.
Most people probably think resistance means harder missions.
If HD2 was made by competent devs they would fix this by having resistance scale inversely by distance from SE, so the blob actually acts correctly.
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Oh hey, if you customize your gun then look at the warbonds it shows your selected kit.
>>527667367eagle ems
eagle gas
eagle laser guided bomb
eagle mine layer
eagle rocket/missile barrage
maybe a ship upgrade to choose if your eagle goes straight like the strafe
Other weapon options for FRV like grenade launcher or railgun.
Orbital precision salvo
some kind of CAS stratagem like in hd1, but with a pelican or attack helicopter
C4 from hd1
>>527686130https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLo-OM-KZxU
Haven't played since battle for super earth, are the mega cities playable on other planets yet or nah?
>>527709530I've long wanted something similar
I really want to see a blowtorch get added as a secondary weapon, similar to the repair tool in the Battlefield games
Using the torch on friendly vehicles/sentries repairs them, using the torch on enemies damages them and sets them on fire
Give it heavy penetration (or maybe even anti-tank penetration) and let cut right through heavies through sustained application
I want to be able to fix up my mech and sentries one moment then go to town on an enemy tank and melt it to slag the next
>>527711813Yes, and they're the best SC farming we've ever had.
>>527710791it does actually have that now. You have the MO itself, enemy presence, supply lines, origin of attacks on [defend] planets for gambits, the DSS and of course the helldiver population numbers
the onus is on them, but being bugniggers they will never EVER do the right thing
>>527709530I've never really understood why they're limited in the first place. I think they're really cool but I'm never *happy* to have a teammate in one unless he's really mulching heavies. They seem really fragile in most situations.
So is there anything interesting in the data mines yet or is it all just the same stuff?
>>527705615And it filtered 90% of the shitters here.
>>527712171I carried so many missions in Emancipator during this MO while facing predators on Alta. It's really strong on bugs
>>527709519Not really. Jet fighters carry more and larger bombs than prop fighters did. The large bombs in Lancasters were generally primitive bunker busters for U boat pens and there are larger and heavier bunker busters in service. The 13600kg MOP for example.
>>527712171They're fun.
They make shit happen, and the limited ammo helps balance them a ton. They're basically what laser cannon wishes it could be.
>>527700608what's she thinking?
>>527712201Hey guys, how yall doing, any new leaks today? :D
>>527712201Squid leaks mostly
>>527712145Little of this can be understood without someone else telling you
Like all I can think of that would work properly would be a better MO system, but Joel just uses MOs to waste people's time and fuck with them.
The DSS almost helps since people can vote where it goes, but since it sucks there's little incentive to go wherever it is.
Since a bunch of armors are now sharing effects, they should split armor effects down further and then make tiered versions and mix and match more.
>every armor gets 1 primary + either a second primary tier or two sub tiers
They can keep all existing armors, they'd just have up to "three" passives instead of only ever one.
extra padding
>primary: +50 armor
>sub: +25 armor
scout
>sub: markers on the map generate radar scans every 2s
camouflage
>primary: reduces range at which enemies can detect the wearer by 30%
>sub: reduces range at which enemies can detect the wearer by 15%
unflinching
>primary: prevents helldivers from flinching when hit
truth enforcers would get
>primary: unflinching
>sub: extra padding
>sub scout
>>527667367goo gun, fires sticky acid that pools up, slowing enemies and damaging over time. It's also volatile when ignited, allowing it to be cleared nearly instantly when ignited.
Predictions for the patch today? At the very least they have to patch the new weapons reload anims, right?
>>527709530Not sure if a repair tool fits the playstyle of this game but Iโm not opposed to it. IMO both mechs could easily have their health pools doubled and not feel overpowered considering how easily you die. At the very least the autocannons and missiles need to do more damage. My pipe dream is guided missiles on the mech and a stratagem launcher but you knowโฆ
>host and 1 other player are running around in circles between 3 already finished secondary objectives
>me and another player are doing the main objective
>I get on the terminal
>you have been kicked from the game
the minds of pubs will forever be a mystery
D10 bugs
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>>527667662Need this shit right now
I dont care if its bad I will use this
>>527667367>SEAF squad but I've pondered it for a little bit>beacon drops and SEAF dudes are flown in on a pelican. A backpack is also dropped off.>Player that has the backpack has the squad follow them. Enhances commands given to squad units.>marking targets allows squad to prioritize them>enhanced follow me, hold position, etc.>squad has an MG guy, a couple of EATs, and one with a marksman rifleI like the idea of the seaf squad but I feel like it has to have something like a backpack to let you actually coordinate its usage, as well as limit the power of the user's loadout by not letting you take a backpack AND also have a full squad of guys following you. We even have the backpack model.
>>527714701please do the needful saars...
Why does 4chan keep saying "Connection error" when trying to upload an image? Just hits 100% then hits me with an error.
>>527715685Spotty internet connection. See, it works fine for me.
>>5277158274chan is the only site doing it though. Everything else is fine.
>>5277147012/4
Come hunt bugs with us guys
>>527714701>>527715967i will boot the game up for lobby....i need to fry more with that ZAAAP launcher
>>527715858Are you using wifi to connect? That's usually the cause.
>oh boy, time to play helldivers 2
>fleshmob passes through a car I'm climbing over to continue whacking me repeatedly as he clips through it
>get ragdolled and it seems to last forever as a stingray lines up a shot, but it's on the other side of the building I landed next to so it's fine
>the stingray's shots pass straight through the building, instantly killing me while I'm still unable to even get up from the ground
>as I'm getting out of my hellpod a leviathan instantly deletes me before I can even begin moving my character
>too many bullshit things happened within the span of 5 seconds, alt+f4
>>527715685refresh the page
>>527716213>play the beta test faction>surprised when he's a beta tester
>>527716195I am but i've never had it just suddenly do this.
>>527716354Tried that too
>>527667367>Orbital Burst AutocannonFires a short burst (4?) of relatively low damage shells but they are explosive rather than the seemingly inert Rotary shells. The main gimmick is that it can be used multiple times per reload in rapid succession, the stratagem does not lock out with a timer on use. This means it can be used to target multiple spawners precisely in one go, rather than hoping imprecise barrages will roll for the right spots (a reason for some people to NOT bring barrages). The shots are not as accurate as the Precision Strike but are accurate enough to cover roughly the same blast area, only if you're really unlucky will you fail to get direct hits on a target that is right on the beacon. 3 to 4 uses per reload for 12 to 16 shells total. It should kill a substantial heavy like Bot Tank if all or near-all shells hit (stock destroyer, 12 shells), counterbalanced by requiring the user to enter the code multiple times and throw balls along the path of the target. Having the cooldown be about the same or slightly longer than the OPS doesn't sound too far off.
>>527715606>four armsMmm... nyes.
>>527716524I'm also having a similar problem. Pretty sure it's just the site shitting the bed a little.
>>527667367Autocannon emplacement
Autocannon dog
Autocannon eagle
Autocannon FRV
>>527716524are you using a vpn
>>527717957>Autocannon dogIt would be hilarious if it could only fire one shot at a time before returning to the backpack, and each time it got knocked back 20 meters.
>>527717927Thats reassuring. Thought 4chan hit me with a specific block or something.
>>527718064I was thinking the same thing. It'd be more like an eruptor dog at that point but still, it'd be funny to see it get flipped over and break every time it tried to fire.
>>527667367"FPV" dog backpack. Hovers alongside you. When you press 5 you do the animation of pulling up your wrist pad and go into a first person mode, can fly the dog into whatever you want. Limited range. OPS explosion. Same cooldown as EATs.
>>527718476Expanding on this, could have a variant that can drop ~4 HE grenades below it and its camera is fixed downwards instead of forwards. Fly into a base and bomb it with the drone. Drop bombs into some of a nests' holes from safety (at least, until a predator sneaks up on your guy while you're in the camera mode)
>>527674221I think that shitting yourself over someone revering to psykers and orks as psychers and orcs is pure "UHHHHGHHGHGHHG IM A BIGGER FAN THAN YOUOOOUUUU" self wankery, but the whole "It's misspelled incorrectly" is the fucking point you fucking idiot.
So what exactly does the blockade modifier do if it isnโt what spawns leviathans? Makes me never want to fight this faction again.
Its so funny how that the only reason the illuminate did so much damage before SE was just having them be boring to fight.
Okay /hdg/ help out a shitter here.
I wonโt say Iโm a fucking god in this game but I can confidently solo D10 squids and bugs even predator bugs. But Iโm having a massive trouble with bots, specifically trying to carry my 2 dumbasses who plays ghostdiver playstyle. They bring nothing but smokes and jetpacks, they dont bring ATs. They only use deadeye and senator on medium and small targets, they ignore heavy. Problem is, they donโt help cover me through the base or take out heavy devs etc.
They just target troopers and rocket troopers then use smoke nade /smoke orbital/smoke eagle when targeted (they bring both smoke orbital and eagles every mission.) They never do objectives, they just specifically target infantries. Naturally, I bring RR but its still not enough ammo since they hog all the resupplies on their โsniper nest.โ
Iโm just fucking tired, any recommended loadout for D10 bot carry?
>>527686130https://youtu.be/mhsFGJs8a3A
>>5277147013/4 we are diving cmon
>>527701817>What are you on about? Morning piss is the most laser accurate stream of the dayAh, too be young again
>>527667367Eagle AWACS
-marks all bases, nests etc. across the entire map
-marks patrols and their routes on minimap as well as their makeup
-highlights heavies through walls
-marks incoming weather effect zones
-2 minute uptime, 1:30 cooldown
>>527719151Rape your friends
>>527719151>ghostdiverssounds fun. roleplay with the faggots, bring a railgun for the main purpose of sniping hulks, 110mm rocket pods for the tanks, and rocket sentry to help with the striders
>>527719151they're not stealthing they just suck
they can bring eats, or a quasar if they use the hoverpack, while still playing stealthy
Sneeddivers to Feedpods
All Sneeddivers to Feedpods
>friend playing lower difficulty on 7
>Take sample booster and all the new gear from the warbond
>Just casually waddle around, throw gas grenades like they're tear gas and scream stop resisting
>Everything works.... Really fucking well
>Like actually feels like my gear is genuinely overpowered
Man. Makes me feel bad to ask for any buffs or changes to the warbond, when like 90% of the game is this easy..
>>527719151Don't play with retards
Commando for tanks/turrets/Factory Strider turrets, HMG emplacement for multiple patrols/bot drops, WASP for utility/choice kills (Hulk/turret facing away from you, active Factory Strider turrets, Gunships, Devastators that get too annoying), thermites for general AT or Fabricator destruction, Ultimatum or Senator. Extra stratagem pick whatever you feel you need. Or don't pick the WASP and instead pick the AMR/HMG/De-escalator so you can carry around a Hellbomb backpack for objectives and messy situations. For your primary just pick Diligence/Amendment/DCS
>>527719151HMG, set it to lowest fire rate and tap fire headshots on hulks. 3-4 headshots is a kill.
Alternatively AMR, 2 headshots is a dead hulk.
Portable hellbomb for a free reset if heavies overwhelm you or if you need a bot drop cleared. Walking barrage for base clears. Autocannon sentry for fire support.
Normal ass liberator is fantastic for bots if you can headshot devastators BUT Scorcher is even better since the splash can allow you to kill tanks and turrets by hitting vents from the side of the turret.
Grenade pistol, senator, or talon secondary
Thermites
Only thing that should slow you down at that point is factory striders but you can kill them by firing HMG or AMR into their belly until they die, hellbomb them or throw all 3 thermites into their face.
>>527719151Are your friends stupid, stubborn or meming? Because I sure as hell wouldn't play with them if they brought smoke stratagems while thinking they were effective.
>ghostdiverOh, so they just listen to misinformation.
>>527719151scythe
talon
thermites
heavy engineering kit armour
laser cannon
personal shield generator pack
eagle strafing run
commando
this will kill every bot enemy and has very high sustainability
>>527720883>personal shieldhe didn't ask for a diaper
>>527720883>ScytheWhy?
>personal shield generator packYou're much better off bringing a shield relay so your other squadmates can take advantage of it
>>527721016well, he's getting the diaper
Might be controversial but the liberation rates being what they are makes it really difficult to liberate planets in between MO's. Its really lame how enemies can launch multiple attacks and claim multiple planets in a short time but we cant do the same.
>>527721016I mean, if he's going to be the only guy on his team fighting everything Devastator-sized and bigger, his survival is not negotiable.
>>527721386>>Scythe>Why?so you have zero downtime because he's going to be the only person actually killing shit
>so your other squadmates can take advantage of itread the original post. his other squadmates fuck off and don't contribute anything
>>527721437I agree liberation needs some kind of adjustment, the fact the playerbase is split on bugs and bots and both planets are making little progress is really annoying. We should be able to make some kind of progress outside of MOs
>>527721437Until Arrowhead and Joel fuck off from the whole live-service bit and make it how wars were done back in HD1, we'll have to deal with it unfortunately.
>>527721437It's a video game, it doesn't matter. Not like we're going to be allowed to "defeat" any of the factions.
>>527720883Literal background NPC loadout
>Pretends to be playing>Doesn't actually do anything (his Scythe, LC doesn't kill anything before someone else does)>Poops his pants the moment his diaper pack pops
>>527721701>It's a video game, it doesn't matter.Doesnt matter. Its a game I want to win.
>Not like we're going to be allowed to "defeat" any of the factions.Thats Joel's problem. Not ours.
>>527719151Based I do the same thing.
Loads of fun, and let's shitters feel like they're getting support fire from me.
>>527720883>Heavy armor>Diaper shieldNah nigga this shitter
>>527719151 needs to lock in, wear light armor, throw a supply pack on, and rawdog it the whole way
>>527721637the wars in HD1 worked hands off because there was only a single sector to attack at any given time on each front, and every mission in that sector contributed to that sectors liberation. there was none of this multiple sectors, let alone multiple planets shit
>ABRL nigger fires a perfect airburst at a hulk some 30m in front of me
>it survives without a scratch
>I die
nice "support" "weapon"
>>527721523Unironically he'd be better off with a supply pack for sustain or a hellbomb for a free bot drop wipe.
This has to be the worst primary in the game. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>527720883Decent loadout.
Needs something for factory striders tho
>>527722141>Needs something for factory striders tho... that's what the commando is for
and eagle strafing run in a pinch
and the laser cannon
and thermites
and even the talon
>>527722138Stun locks dev patrols from range.
Don't need to worry about return fire.
It's basically an aoe libconc for bots
>>527719151join them in their playstyle for a few runs and ask them how this helps you all win the mission
make them realize how fucking retarded they are. If they stop playing the game, good. It doesn't sound like they're fun to play with and it doesn't sound like you're having fun with them while playing hd2.
>>527722138This has got to be the most delusional post in this thread. What the fuck was he thinking?
>>527722138it's one of those guns for people that believe having good effective range makes a weapon gay
>>527722138It used to be one of the best back when the Purifier was still incomplete. It's still good now for rapid-fire crowd control. And there are far worse numerous other primaries like Lib Concussive, Constitution, Defender, StA-11, Spray&Pray, Slugger and VC-39.
>>527722325Meanwhile every other weapon
>KILLS dev patrols from range. >Don't need to worry about return fire. (they're fucking DEAD)
>>527722138It would be better if the projectile actually did its impact damage. I wouldnโt say itโs terrible, just the purifier kinda does everything it wants to do way better
>>527722325>rangerange starts at 150m if we're being generous
>>527722536Lib conc is great on pred strain.
Constitution is held back by redditors.
Defender got power crept fast.
Stall is fine
Spray and pray is honestly pretty great when upgraded.
Slugger got nerfed to make deadeye look better.
And I have no idea what that last one is.
>>527720883laser cannon replaces your primary and secondary
>personal shield generatorDisgusting.
>>527722325>Don't need to worry about return fire.You don't have to worry about Dev return fire either way because they hit nothing unless you're standing 5 feet in front of them.
>>527722380You don't play the game, retard.
>>527722138it fucks bugs tho
it rapes stalkers and brood niggas
but yea it kinda sucks the big one on every other front
Keep in mind there's a non-zero population of console shitters and controller babies ITT. That's why mediocre shit like diaper packs and the Punisher Plasma are even mentioned
>>527722620Name one primary that kills literally the entire patrol before they can shoot back.
You stun lock everything and slowly wittle it down with like 4 shots. Less if you pair it with things.
It's a gun that compliments shit, and pairs with a ton of tools. It offers a unique way to play, and people can do fun stuff with that.
>/hdg/ is so bad at the game they can't have fun with a gun unless it sniped an enemy from a mile away for them
>>527722973>Name one primary that kills literally the entire patrol before they can shoot back.diligence, tap the heads
>>527722973Purifier/Xbow if you're a retard like that can't aim. Literally everything else except shotguns if you can aim
>>527723128oops that raider that was behind that heavy devastator called in a bot drop while you were lining up shots
if only you had the plasma punisher so you would have killed it from collateral damage alone without even meaning to
>>527723153It was always fun, it just got overshadowed by the K***ht. The changes to the SMG and weapon addon system really brought it into its own though.
>>527722973Crossbow, Eruptor.
>>527723128I mean it rapes bots yeah. Like favorite gun in the game on bots.
But again you still get shot back. Punisher plasma stun locks the entire patrol and you can kill them while standing straight up.
That is something wholely unique to that gun (outside of bullshit like the purifier :^) )
>>527723245>oops that raider that was behind that heavy devastator...got immediately killed by a follow up shot
The kind of crap you have to read from a shitter that refuses to use different guns and is stuck with his slow no capacity AoE crutch
>>527723153First gun I max leveled. Absolute favorite gun, and one of the few guns that actually has a lot of different builds to it.
However it does feel like a direct upgrade to the liberator.
>>527723458>CrutchBuddy... Your autism is showing.
Don't take the game this seriously.
For me, its the Arc-Thrower.
>>527723458>it's SHIIIIIIIIIT>it's a CRUUUUUUUTCHwhich is it?
>>527701036it would probably feel like the flak cannon from Unreal Tournament
>>527723671>I NEED the AoE (can't aim)>I NEED the stun (can't aim)>I NEED the AP3 (can't aim)It's a crutch, no matter how bad the gun is
>>527723671ok i take the game seriously, now what?
>>527723939nyagga heil catler
>>527723939I dunno games too easy to be taken seriously.
>>527723069I just don't need a short to medium range gun besides Verdict
I don't feel any need whatsoever to carry around a a 65 or even 45 round mag either
if your skill is that high you should be fine with 15-20 rounds if even a painfully average player like me can do it
primary and support slots can go all in on precise high calibers for me because lol why not
no need for that fuzzy compact urban combat shit
and even if I end up doing urban combat I can always go with pacifier, the gun that is an actual cheat in cqc and uniquely efficient at both short and long ranges so it won't let me down if I have to aim down a long street
Warrant actively makes me worse at shooting, but it's a good kinda brain rot.
Was hoping to cheese SC farming on city maps but everyone worked too hard and now they're all gone by the time I finished work :(
>>527712145Barely any of this is actually explained ingame.
Major order stuff makes sense but that's more a case of Joel deciding where people should fight and not where the players want to fight (which is the subject that anon is talking about)
>supply linesCommunicate no information ingame aside from what planets you attack from.
>enemy presenceJust an arbitrary percentage ingame; which doesn't actually tell you what it corresponds to. If they changed it to "-X% liberation progress per hour" then it'd be fine but in its current state it's almost worthless.
>supply linesEssentially just arbitrary lines between planets telling you what planets can attack/defend against each other.
>Origin of attacks on defense planetsI don't think I've ever seen this mentioned ingame unless there's dispatch messages telling you that liberating planet A would end the attack on planet B; but if it requires devs to manually spell it out via ingame notifications it's not obvious on its own
>DSSKinda useful for corralling the mob but really anyone who cares about DSS voting will probably just vote for what everyone else is voting for anyways because with tens of thousands of voters per cycle individual votes won't matter enough
>Helldiver populationRealistically the only way to get people to go towards a specific planet
>>527723069>long range faction is more fun and dangerous at long range>p-please, stop aggroing far enemies! My gun is useless at long range!too bad, maybe go back to bugs
My commissar gf called a bot drop on me and raped me with her other fembot friends...
I am gods strongest grenade emplacement soldier
NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SMACK THAT DISTANT PATROL WITH LE MEDPEN RIFLE I WAS ABOUT TO RUN UP AND SOVLFULLY MAGDUMP THEM!!!???
>>527722138its one of the good ones.
lacks damage but staggers everything
harvesters get pushed around like a whore in an alley with this shit
Where is my gas punisher, sweden?
My fire dog?
My gas sentry?
>>527725316>No GL emplacement that just changes the twin HMGs for GLs>No AC emplacement eitherIt's literally just a model swap they don't even have to change anything else besides the projectile god fucking damn I hate Sweden
>>527725689Gas Grenade Launcher would be OP
>>527724920>He doesn't build his load out to counter his weaknessesAnyways speaking of fun short range but weapons, torcher with urchins has gotten silly viable now.
kek
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its amazing that the average idiot on bots d10 can still carry idiots like this to a victory
i started following him trying to keep him alive and the lack of situational awareness was actually incredible
standing in the open just letting himself get shot, leaving is gear and running off in a random direction etc
My hunter gf called a bug breach on me and raped me with her other fembug friends...
>>5277257403 and a half hours
>>527725740next month, swedes are on break
>>527725740today's another bugfix + squid MO
enjoy your slop sir thanks for coming to squigger king
>gun levels up
>unlock new attachment
>go put it on
>WHOOPS, SAWRRY, YU SCROULLED TUU FEST!
how is this even a problem?
Can Walking Barrage take out jammer and eye of sauron?
>>527726420eye yes
if it has the range o hi a jammer from outside the radius also yes
>>527726498Thanks was deciding whether to take 500kg or walking barrage for bots
>>527726550technically yes the projectile/explosion has enough destruction force to blow them up but actually hitting them is RNG
I once had an eye survive 3 walking barrage attempts
The next person who posts will have an electrical shock from sucking an automatons mechanical wiener
>ships don't reposition on non-city maps
Why? I just watched an entire orbital barrage get wasted because a mountain was in the way, they obviously can do it for the cities
>>527726498walking seems like it got stealth nerfed against jammers. Never seems to hit it now, used to always.
>>527726867like, dropping it on the edge of the jammer range?
it was always inconsistent.
>>527726867it's just RNG. if anything it should be more reliable at taking out jammers since they added the extra salvos without extending the total distance
>>527719220NOTHING STOPS ZEE MAIL
>>527726420Detector Towers yes (though rarely you'll get unlucky and it won't hit the tower)
Active Jammers no, it doesn't have enough range. Disabled Jammers yes
Now I want a 1 impact wide but thrice as long Alt Walking Barrage, basically a 380mm Strafing Run. Why are swiggers so creatively bankrupt and lazy ffs
D10 bugs 3/4
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holy shit the new guard dog hits like a truck
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>>527727161nvm lobby is over, thanks for diving.
gib lobby, I need to level the knight
>>527726550Just use 500kg or gas strike to destroy the detector towers.
>>527724927God gives gold to fools.
>>527719151AC, shield relay, EATs, 120mm
Just be an asshole and hog suplies.