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>>527710172Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Spamton.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/>https://deltarune.com/#news>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font-Thread Template
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw
Catty is pronounced with a soft "a" sound, like "apple"
Catti is pronounced with a hard "a" sound, like "cake"
* (It crawls into the thread.)
>>527727343I pronounce those words exactly the same anon
I'm here to make good posts and jack off to fat asses. And I'm all out of good posts.
I LOVE TENNA! I LOVE TV!!!
Plap him, he will do it for you, you just need to ask
>>527727521I L O V E T V E E E E
>>527727343Are you saying Catti is pronounced like Katie
>>527727524https://youtu.be/BIw9RAqj2K0
>>527727487You pronounce apple as "AY-Pull" and not "AH-Pull"?
Or do you pronounce cake as "cahk", like "pack"
Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.
I love Chara
>>527727607You better not suddenly rush towards my screen you little shit
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Reposting here for new bread people, because some of you thought it was a fake post from Toby
https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3lrrhype5gk22
>>527727552Yes, precisely.
>>527727643>reposting the fake skeetwhy?
is there a repo with all the hidden pages on deltarune.com
feel like this is where we'll first see ch5 stuff...
>>527727643Its funny because day 1, /utg/ hated Tenna and chapter 3 in general and called him a budget Spamton/Queen. I assume all the good posters were busy actually playing the game.
I'm surprised we don't seem to have a new countdownfag since we know that Chapter 5 is coming sometime in 2026
Iโm sad that the TV page never turned on.
>>527727713>inb4 something hatches from pipis in ch5 and it's a bunch of SpamTenna mixup kidshow would a tv head and an insane spam mail kids look like?
Do you have any Undertale/Deltarune theories that sound totally insane but you truly believe?
>>527727765Yeah day 1 was a lot of guys speedreading the game for all the epic lore reveals and ship confirmations or even jumping straight to chapter 4
>>527727643Tenna Telethon?
>>527727596the in-between of those two sounds, softer, it's not ""Kay-ke" and it's not "ay-ple" but it isn't "Ah-ple" and it's not "Cah-ke"
Partially due to my fucked up nose
>>527727607So these things totally live in the shelter right
What could they be IRL?
>>527727736>fakebrother, that's the official Toby Fox account on bluesky...it's not from twitter
>>527727765>I assume all the good posters were busy actually playing the game.yep, pretty much first few days people were grinding both chapters for every little secret and so on (without datamining)
>>527727790I don't remember how the old countdownfags posted. Can I see an example?
Now that we've all had time to digest 3+4
Without using Toby Fox songs, post a song that you think best fits
>Kris
>Susie
>Ralsei
>King
>Queen
>Tenna
>Lancer
>Jevil
>Spamton
>Ramb
>The Knight
>Carol
>Gerson
>Anyone else you want
>>527727790Why try? It will be delayed and delayed and never come
>>527727930if they're not experimental dust amalgamates, or just titan spawn/pure dark entities, the best guess is this guy is Kris's missing hand
>>527727969So true bestie
>>527727643Idk I couldn't care less about Tenna's beef with Spamton, it's literally the least interesting thing about him. Though I don't complain about the Spamton cameo.
Spy vs spy Spamtenna, that was quick
writing cringe zombie au DELTARUNE fanfic and need characters to round out the survivor group do I
A: go the dark route and start pulling characters from Undertale/DELTARUNE yellow
B: go the dark route and start making OCs
C: start pulling DELTARUNE side characters that are pretty one-note which'll be hard to do anything interesting with
d: secret fourth option
>>527727902Is there a collection of these somewhere?
>>527728025>both pointy noses>black for spamton, white for tennayep, now i have an urge to draw them like that but i've never seen Spy vs Spy...
>>527727858The game will end at chapter 6 on both the normal and weird routes. Chapter 7 will be locked until you meet certain requirements. This is why the game has "only one" ending and why Gerson says the Lord of the Hammer was left unfinished at book 6.
>>527727858The red horn headband is an item totally separate from Ralsei and is this game's Worn Dagger/Real Knife thing which changes depending on how Kris sees theirself by the end of the game from the route you took
>>527727807little chirping Twitter bird
>>527728025all of this fanart is psyoping me into actually liking plug tail tenna
https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
THE NUMBERS..
>>527728108All you have to know is they want to fucking kill one another in cartoony ways.
>>527727858Susie's last name is Gaster, most likely by adoption
>>527728162>little chirping Twitter birdthat's just Berdly
>>527728139This is plausible but the fact the main menu says chapter 7 makes me doubt it a bit. I wouldn't count out a bonus Chapter 8 or something since Toby likes to hide stuff like the True Lab
>>527727713>>527727807Not a single thing about the pipis being the lovechild eggs resulting from a gay affair between a CRTV and a spam email on a computer down at the public library across town makes any sense to me and it frightens me on a conceptual level.
>>527727765Probably.
I was busy playing the game and avoiding spoilers until Friday night.
>>527728190why does 5 play the start of "My country tis of thee"
>>527728047Can you have the skeletons be unaffected because theres no biological system to infect and the fact they're already undead?
>connection error
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FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>527727634Qrd on this thing?
Bro thought he was gonna turn on wilted rose emoji skull emoji skull emoji
>>527728290oouuuugh.... baby hungie... babby need unrestricted access to cocomelon
>>527728190I read someone else theorize the bigger numbers means the amount of weird route content
>2 is the biggest because you start the route there and it has the most progress>1 and 3 aren't there at all because there is no weird route content in them (sword route is a different thing)>4 is small because it has three sequences for weird route
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>>527728190>ch5 plays guitareither Susie finally gets to play that song for Noelle or we get Dess flashbacks where she was alive and played stuff for Asriel...or its just unrelated song that plays somewhere silly
>>527728090not yet. i'm in the process of making them
>>527728286same man I just wanna post Noelle killing me
My name is Gaster, I made the vessel
>>527728293Carol was so ugly that he was turned off by it
>>527728190The chapter 3 thing is still fucking with me
The big 3 implies that doing Sword Route is as big a deal as Snowgrave but it's transparent so it's not??
>>527728108They are just silent slapstick shorts/comics. You can get the gist pretty quickly by looking up a couple of the Mad TV shorts on Youtube.
>>527728190What's up with those audio bits
>>527728284right now I'm more or less going with "virus zombifies humans consistently but gives monsters a sickness that makes them die slowly" and justifying it as the virus usurping their determination. the main thing that gave me the idea for the au was the idea that kris' soul/the player has enough determination to be unaffected anyway.
>>527728251If chapter 6 ends really miserably, having chapter 7 on the menu would motivate people to try again. There would probably be some hints given too, like how Flowey tells you what to do for True Pacifist.
>>527728350What fucks with me is that it's specifically a Weird Route preview so it can't be anything innocuous
Some guitar-based mayhem is going to occur
>>527727236 (OP)Any new thoughts about the first save point with Kris' name?
>>527728404How does it interact with healing magic? I could see castle town being used as a cross-dimensional bastion only for the disease to jump planes by a symptomless carrier
>>527728347people already guessed that before that before the chapters came out. kinda sad that chapter 5's weird route is going to be shorter than 2's still.
>>527728347That was my thinking too. Chapter five is going to be a big one for doerapefags.
>>527728350>>527728190I'm telling you guys, chapter 5 dark world is going to be the Holiday House. I've never been more sure of anything in my life.
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>>527728431I'll just post it in link format
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GoUb2T3XwAA90Gx?format=jpg&name=large
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Ralsei is cursed to become a titan and need to be sealed
>>527728280Lowk the chain kinda fits Deltarune whole theme/vibe of freedom and braking free
>>527728347You're onto something.
>>527728347>4 is small>noelle literally gets completely mindbrokenI fear whatever the fuck Toby considers "above mindbreak below literal murder"
>>527728370it was difficult to put the pieces together
>>527728503it is. current draft has them going around in a bus with a trailer on the back. the trailer has a dark world in it. stuff like emergency-opening dark worlds to get around large groups of zombies or to more efficiently clear an area is a thing.
>>527728570Why doesn't he just become a nice titan that's friends with everybody? Is he stupid?
>>527728569Oh I love this one. Fuck
>>527727858Castle town will be the final Thrash Machine walking around like an Imperial Titan, where they steal King's hamster wheel to have the Original Starwalker power it, and has a canon made from Lancer holding up 38 megaphones where Ralsei will say the one and only FUCK of his life to kill a Roaring Titan.
https://youtu.be/sbO8BGr0Tgs
>>527728190"da ma e h" as the file names for the chapters and 4 has the red pixel on it
hmmmmmm
Do you ever think we'll get a chance to try and get Kris to like us? I've been a very good boy in my playthrough
>>527728570>Ralsei is literally a sacrificial lambTOBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>527728613size is just tied to amount of content which is why 3's is so large. it's not about how important what you do is.
>>527728613I think it's amount of content, not severity of content.
>>527728569what the fuck??? why is this so good
>>527728108Toby posted this
>>527727643 to get people to draw spy vs spy Spamtenna, clever. It's now kind of obvious spy vs spy was probably their inspiration at least for designs
>>527728570More likely All of Castle Town.
The Town is shaped like a Titan hand with the hole in it
I just want Noelle to freeze the town over
https://youtu.be/lSWMDgzHAqM?si=mvLX71vSrS7WVQV8
>>527728657You got a point...
>>527728557All the chapter 5 previews have been a mix of Christmas and generic Festival-y stuff and things like Burgerpants in a suit and the garden could be any one of
>Flower King>Holiday mansion garden>The Festival with the flowers Asgore is placing everywhereSo I'm really torn
>Chapter 4 had no Lancer
>No Rouxls
>No Thrash machine
>No Star Walker
I know they wouldn't have fit because it's the serious chapter but they'll be back for Chapter 5 right?
is Toby going to do something more about being unable to choose who you are? There's the prophecy right now but it, isn't really teaching the player any moral lesson - its not giving a theme.
>>527727947>Rambhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIWRan3XGY
>>527728868>No Star WalkerHuh? He's there
>>527728936What where? I never saw him.
>>527728962He's in the Gallery room turned to stone
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Is there any point in going recruitgrave over full violence?
>>527728962You find him petrified in the gallery room and if you recruit everyone he's in the stack of darkners at the end who hoist you up. I'm not sure about his other appearances.
>>527728864>>527728557Dark fountain is opened in the Sewers, which connects to the mansion basement, Flower King and ICE-E's
>>527728868Star Walker is in the museum art exhibit thing with all the statues
>>527727994I kinda like the Kris's Hand theory but how does the Mantle Boss summoning a bunch of them fit, or one of the newsletter FRIEND scares coming from clicking Susie's chair a bunch
>>527728994it looks like we are in some king of recruitgrave...
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>>527728404>Zombie apocalypse AU>Hometown is overrun with undead, with only a few major characters remaining alive and uninfected>The virus can affect pretty much everyone, monsters and humans alike>All except for Sans>In fact, since he's also undead, he can verbally communicate and understand the undead hordes>Tries to lighten the grim mood by just casually walking down the street, chatting with the nearby zombies about random shit, occasionally making a pun here and there>Even has a line of them in his store, where he sells them raw meat, at a discount>Said discount being that they haven't eaten anyone still alive beforehand
Injecting Krisselle angst directly into my fucking veins
>>527729050>jevil talks about the hand of the knight drifting forward>spamton has an unused hands attack>eram summons a bunch of pure darkness hands>the severed hand from blood crushersI'm scared
>>527728868Thrash Machine is something special to keep in their back pocket until endgame when it's time to start beating the shit out of some Titans with your giant combining robot
I swear to god this little SPONGE better let me help them actually say their feelings to susie
>>527728903Toby doesn't directly moralize - it is to be discovered, and it has yet to be discovered.
>>527729042>>527729024>>527728973>Doesn't say his iconic lineDoesn't count
>>527729087it looks like you are in some king of krisselle angstgrave
>>527728257Asgore status:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NF0K7y0SVs
>>527728994Just roleplay. That is, I'm playing the SOUL to do what it thinks is best for everyone. Making Kris new friends and saving a lot of Darkners, and making Noelle stronger, are not mutually exclusive in its eyes.
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Throw away your television!
Take the noose off your ambition!
Re-invent your intuition! now!
It's a repeat! of a story told!
It's a repeat! and it's getting old!
Renegades with fancy guages!
Slay the plague for it's contagious!
Pull the plug and take the stages!
Throw away your television . . Now!
>>527729065woe! sixbones be upon ye!
>>527729230this but unironically
I played through Undertale Yellow for the first time to cope with the content drought and I really like this bird.
>>527728913Find Her Piss Dreemurr, youre my only hope
>>527729139If you want Kris to admit to Susie that they love her you're gonna have to make Kris feel like they're deserving of love first
That's the real challenge
>>527729087I need that shit
>>527729263>content drought>one week after new contentgod DAMN you people are impatient
>>527729263I'm kind ambivalent on the bird
Her writing was kind of weak but I appreciate the character concept of someone who sort of sucks a little at everything but still keeps trying to do the right thing
>>527729263>Based On Berdly's Aunt
>>527729371I need more DELTARUNE. I need it now. its so PEAK...
>>527729385Damn, Lightner semen makes you look like THAT
>>527728380sword route is where the game tells you weird route exists, but isn't actually a part of weird route.
>>527729050Mantle boss was played on a game console using a FRIEND-posessed controller
most cringe soul trait ideas you've ever seen?
>>527729132beware of the hands that hands in hands
For anons that want to explore the new unused rooms with UTmodtool:
>Select a chapter data.win
>Click on Scripts -> Community Scripts -> FancyRoomSelect.csx and wait until you see the popup.
>Save and overwrite the original chapter's data.win. Exit the modtool.
>Load a savefile for that chapter and press F3
Room IDs can be found in the bottom right corner when checking them inside with the modtool. room_board_3's ID is 144 for example.
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Would you mindbreak Noelle?
Dess definitely diddled Kriss. Teenage on child molestation is no joke. I speak from experience.
>>527728380There are two possibilities for what it could symbolize
>Sword route hints at weird route, but isn't actually part of it>Sword route will be its own thing and get more content in a later chapter just like weird route did
>>527729548like the mfs who imagine a "HATE" soul that kinda bs I think?
Okay so I think the missing piece of the prophecy we don't have is about Ralsei. I think there are few possible outcomes but all of them ultimately are about Ralsei not being around anymore. Either he has to sacrifice himself, either he becomes a Titan, or maybe Castle Town has to be sealed in the end, or maybe Ralsei just has to spend forever alone in the Dark World.
Chapter 3 spends a LOT of time making Ralsei alive. He gets to have fun. Play games. Experience joy with friends. He even, briefly, has mini-Kris gets to make choices. Decisions. Before hand he was fine being a "non-existent" he was doomed to death or being alone regardless. Then he made friends. Further reinforced by his friends finding furniture for him. He doesn't value a room. He won't get to keep it.
By lying with omission, he wants to protect the others from the fate he alone has to have. Knowing that specifically a prophecy saying he must perish would cause the reaction it most likely has for Susie and Kris, he wants to avoid this at all cost. If they don't know they can't stop it when it comes time. Chapter 4 has Gerson repeatedly make statements that allude to the prophecy being "up to interpretation" and that it can be changed. Meanwhile Ralsei is adamant that what it says will happen regardless.
However, we already see a flaw. The Girl does not match up with our girl. A sword. An axe. Refuses to wear ribbons. Something is already incorrect in the prophecy. I'm not sure where Toby will go with this because I truly don't think the "true ending" will be "the goat kid dies again" but I also don't think we'll get a scenario where any of our heroes come to pass. If I were to guess, the normal route will have our heroes find some way to save the day, most likely with a talk-no-jutsu on Ralsei at the end.
>>527729518Fear, Hate, etc
those are emotions not personality traits, dammit!
>>527729465Shame the effect is ruined by the release schedule and datamimers
>>527729612...were you the teenager or the child?
>>527729761Child obviously.
>>527729612I don't think anyone got molested and also believe you are projecting.
>>527729612How much older than him were you?
>>527729698Is kindness even a personality trait? Everyone has kindness
>>527728190whats that number 2 track i dont remember it
>>527728018I agree with you. Tenna has his own unique charm and problems while something about the stuff with Spamton just feels pointless and more like a tacked on joke, so I have no investment and don't find any intrigue in it.
>>527729820>Everyone has kindnessNot true
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are you fucking serious
What would happen in the weird route on chapter 5?
>>527729518souls having traits
>>527729716I simply close my eyes and do not see what dataminers do
Also the release schedule at the very least keeps the game alive for essentially years, they game'll get another chapter and there'll be another year of absoloute schizo theories again
>>527729820if callousness is, kindness is too
>ralsei dies in the weird route
>the prophecy still has to come true
>lancer becomes the "prince of the dark"
>mood completely killed
>>527729810He was 13 I was 4.
>>527728569>large>not origcome on man
>>527729890if they're not traits what do you think the colors mean
I'm surprised this wasn't the joke prophecy instead of "Jockington Grows the Beard"
>>527729880BASED, newfags blown the fuck out
>>527729518the gayshit that betty has of the soul type of fear
>>527729698I am filled with Disappointment
>>527729880If you're the poster, you should share the guide here.
>>527730013oh is it a snowgrave reference?
>>527729652I think there's going to be a bit of dramatic irony where each of our party members thinks they're going to be dead at the end of the journey
>Ralsei from following the prophecy as is>Kris from doing whatever the Knight is planning, explaining why they're so fine with betraying Susie after becoming such close friends because they're gonna be gone by the end of things>Susie gets some harebrained idea to break the prophecy that involves her sacrificing herselfAnd (You)'ll be tasked with wrangling them into not getting themselves killed
>>527729885Noelle acting sweet and lovey dovey to Kris. Kris uncomfortable as all fuck. Noelle being the one to tell Kris she needs to get stronger, in a role reversal. The player unable to abort the route.
>>527729885What do you think?
>>527729880mf you do NOT need a checklist for ts
But why must Noelle become stronger and how strong are we talking?
>>527729773Kris Stole Berdly's Shit
>>527728712A begrudging team-up is simply inevitable. Kris WILL be mindbroken by the power of friendship.
>Normal mode our soul is just a gremlin along for the ride.
>Weird route we're the fucking Darkness from Legend, only our plan to taint innocence and seduce the pure to gain great power is going to work.
interestingly enough Legend also involves a rose and the removal of hands. Probably just an amusing coincidence though.
>>527729880>Expecting literally anything of quality to exist or interact with the hellsite known as plebbit
>>527729967Is Starwalker even in chapters 3 and 4? Did Toby forget?
>>527730080>Noelle casts SnowStorm>entire world becomes frozen, every npc/enemy/boss is frozen with some exceptions
>>527729773>TwistedSword isnโt a KRIS>BlackShard looks nothing like the sword it was cut from Meh
>>527730076There is a truly retarded amount of hidden bullshit and the newer chapters have even more
>>527730018shouldn't having fear as your defining trait make you a cowardly little bitch?
Somebody should drive to toby's house and give him a raped doe doll
>>527730080Strong Enough to defeat Goku
>>527730130Starwalker is in 3 after the throuple fight with rouxls and he's a statue in 4
>>527729612Unless Dess was older than Azzy (hot), at most Dess would be 16 and Kris 10.
>>527730051Berdly's Heartbeat?
>>527730130why do you guys keep outting yourselves as memorylets
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toby please give my boy his hat back
>>527729394I liked her a lot. The only thing I didn't really like was the awkward ways they wrote her in and out of the plot. She was a simple good natured fuck-up character and I am a sucker for those.
>>527729423I can just see her nodding along politely as he babbles.
>>527729371I didn't mean there should be a new chapter right now just that we have about a year to wait if the ending is to be trusted and I am still in an Undertale mood.
>>527730080My theory is that The SOUL is trying to make her the girl in the prophecy instead of Susie. "And love will find the girl" is about LOVE, and noelle / weird route is the only way to kill most enemies. Also Noelle can apparently equip the candy cane sword (matching the visual of the girl in the prophecy) and wear ribbon armor (matching what Ralsei said the girl in the prophecy ,should be able to do, unlike Susie).
Why this is, is anyone's guess. Maybe the final prophecy is about the girl being sacrificed and that's why Susie defies it. And why the SOUL would want that to happen to Noelle instead of Susie, no idea.
>>527729939How big was his pp?
>>527730160The twisted Sword probably has a plant aspect to it since the thorn ring is a component
>>527730213He also makes a blink and you miss it appearance during Tenna's fight, and if you go all the way back to the starting point of chapter 3 he's hanging out there and makes a joke about how he was the original.
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>>527730135Sans escapes with 1 max HP left
>>527729773shouldn't the Twisted Sword have like a bramble vine wrapped around it?
>>527730359He's in the prison area too, saying its still pissing him off.
>>527730039nah, i was just looking for one because i'm an autistic perfectionist and wanna make sure i have everything i can get on 1+2 so i can fuck around in 3+4 more
>The SOUL is trying to do this or that
I don't think the SOUL is doing anything except what you're doing for any reason but what you're doing it for
>>527729950We're way past that era, sir. For at least 7 years now, Twitter shows you the native size by default. If it gets qualified as large, then large and orig are identical.
Alright. What the fuck is this?
>>527730130He's in the tower that saves Jackenstein in chapter 4
>>527730080To completely sequence break the prophecy and bypass the normal tragic ending
>Kris stuck between being loyal to a rapist and a genuine friend
fuck...
>>527730260My computer doesn't have a chapter 1 save file with him in it, and I hadn't seen anyone mention him
>>527730406yea...and he's the only survivor, making him more dull in the undertale timeline...
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>>527730278he will put his hat back on in the snowgravy route in chapter 7 when the evil route players try seal ralseis fountain, ralsei will put his hat back on and he will activate his green lasersword and kill the evil route players harder than 1000 sanses ever could.
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>>527730354Yeah but it should look like this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris
>>527730441 You can always come home
Anons should I make a Noelle tulpa so I can rape her irl?
>>527730483Its crazy how every single forum space sucks ass these days. Take me back to fucking gamefaqs at this point.
>>527730441https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhv55ss0B4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfro9XfU1w
>>527730323I'm not giving you fap material.
>>527730429I don't get the people who act like the SOUL isn't literally you. the game is literally having you control it. the soul doesn't do anything you don't tell It to do. it makes it clear so many times
>>527730518>another anon trying to get a Tulpagod damn it people will you ever learn not to do that shit? just...idk buy some Noelle merch or something, unless you want to become a schizophrenic irl
>>527730468He only shows up if you talk to him in chapter 1 anon, that's why you didn't see him, you got fluid leaking into your brain
>>527730518Tulpas are legit dangerous, not easy to control. It's always more likely that they end up raping you.
>>527730605A mere object can never truly match the power of a sculpted HEARTSHAPEDOBJECT
How do I make a tulpa?
I want to comfort and hug him!
Please help me partition my brain anons
He should live on inside me
>Artist makes overdramatic art treating this moment as some abusive betrayal to Noelle
i hope it HURT, nerd
>>527730429but anon, that would mean people have to accept accountability for the cruelty they're inflicting
>>527730306>I can just see her nodding along politely as he babbles.Yeah, I Think This One Is More Cute
>>527730595You little cock tease.
>>527727947>Krishttps://youtu.be/2TKnYlNOwGw
>Susiehttps://youtu.be/HMnRqr9hNnU
>Ralseihttps://youtu.be/X9aI_gz9BgM
>Kinghttps://youtu.be/DRfM4ZfItjs
>Queenhttps://youtu.be/9sKecYqOX4M
>Tennahttps://youtu.be/egPkWzH-_aE
>Lancerhttps://youtu.be/UpSkhR0ts6k
>Jevilhttps://youtu.be/68GfAIei0TY
>Spamtonhttps://youtu.be/npXlOEughjA
>Rambhttps://youtu.be/-7M_g_LJn3Q
>The Knighthttps://youtu.be/LuIO24Mk6mY
>Carolhttps://youtu.be/6M3NVS6N_hg
>Gersonhttps://youtu.be/5-E1r-JahHA
>>527730429>>527730604Idk something tells me the soul is not literally us or a stand in for us, it is its own character with its own motivation. The way Kris already had a bird cage in their room and bloodstain next to it tells me they have had the soul for a while and woudk regularly yank it out to stuff in there. Which means it has a prior history and probably its own goals. yes, we control it, but as with Frisk in Undertale who we control and the soul is their own, they're still not us and they have their own motivations.
>>527730465What if it's a Woodsman situation?
It's not actually Dess, just some being using his guilt over Dess to manipulate him into helping it or feeding it?
>decide to try jerking off while not in the shower
>cum is everywhere but the tissue, phone camera lens shattered open, earbud covered in soap
never again
>>527730315SOULku wants a fight against Punished Susie, and depriving her of doe pussy after revealing how Kris betrayed her every step of the way is the only way to get it
>>527730518You have to make a Jackie Chan tulpa first and make sure it's loyal to you so you can beat up other tulpas who may get out of hand
>>527730686But I dont want to rape Ralsei
I just wanna put him in my brain
>>527730518I hope she rapes you instead
>>527730689>smt musicMy nigger
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>>527730757i ain't even mad at your skill issues, i am moreso impressed.
>>527728903Well, so far, a lot of the game is (You) trying to be Kris and failing since Kris is their own person. If it turns out Kris stole the heroic role from the vessel, then the same thing applies the other way around too. The weird route, on the other hand, seems to be setting up Noelle as (You)r new vessel, which will definitely end badly. It's not really a moral lesson, but the idea of "choosing who you are" seems like it will be a majoe theme.
>>527730662I fucking love ntr
>>527730493>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris>Shadow crystal description: A sharp shadow moves like water in the hand.>associated with dragons/serpents and contains its own soul
>>527730656Make Tulpa <3 Do Not
>>527730441Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail. The poor children!
>>527730702I think maybe there is something going on with the soul, but i'm guessing it's all stuff with the interface. the thing that's narrating kris' thoughts to us, the thing giving us options in dialogue boxes and giving us a top-down view of the world. my guess is that Kris has the birdcage because we've been there before due to something something time shenanigans
>>527730757Thank you for sharing with us anon, that's very relevant and extremely important. I'll put it in "Chapter 5 predictions" just for you
>>527730704that's almost definitely what it is, the Dark wearing Dess's face just as (You) wear Kris's or her sister's
>>527730948Imagine we get a Persona 2 ending where the characters all get their memories wiped of each other
>>527730662Noelle needs to get the memo that Kris is getting dino pussy and she needs to either get out or get in the cuck chair
>>527730914Donโt forget
>>527730757Vital Pizzapants Lore
What did I miss why does Queen care so much about Noelle?
>>527730757Please cover how this happened step by step, preferably in greentext format, I am very confused.
Why didnt Susie just steal Kris's life?
>>527731086Because she's powerful. Play the game
Dess raping Kris again...
guise plz.
Ralsei.... in my brain... tulpa.... plox
>>527730894Is this what will happen when Pizzapant's internet GF doesn't show up? Is it a weird route exclusive type of deal?
>>527731086Queen is supposed to represent her overbearing mother dum dum.
>>527731086She's strong
Strong enough to see [H E A V E N]
>>527731021To be fair she called the ferris wheel situation forced, not their whole friendship
She called the friendship a product of happenstance, which isn't good either
She did also say even forced things might be good, and she couldn't tell Susie the ferris wheel prank was bad
But yeah Noelle deserves possessive rape and forced marriage for talking like that about kris
Why didn't Susie just vore Noelle?
>>527731096toby could have made this game so much better
>>527731086Queen represents everyone's mother, and Noelle is the only one whose mother gives a fuck about her.
>>527731086Queen is just Carol. Down to liking Kris for being obedient and giving him a shoulder rub
>>527731127>>527731156I thought that was just an excuse
>>527731154but why? The fact tenna cared about Kris so much was cause he was Kris's TV Queen wasnt Noelle's PC
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>>527731145sent, check your DMs
>>527731142Do you think Tenna saw it happen once
>>527730080My wife needs to be stronger than everyone
>>527731114>do the business>aim for tissue>press too close to tissue like when you stick your thumb into the nozzle of a hose>shoots everywhere>gets on phone screen>scramble to clean everything up>phone falls onto floor right on it's camera>wash hands>doing it sloppily so some soap gets on counter>earbud falls out>lands in soapthis is why i only do it while showering
>>527730662Noelle is a fucking chud who needs to wake the fuck up and realize that Susie doesn't owe her shit.
>>527731158Yeah I agree she really did have it coming
>>527731192>[HEADCANON], and Noelle is [HEADCANON]
>>527731158She mentions it's nice to hear Kris call her a friend in ch2 but seems to completely dismiss the whole thing afterward for more DINO PUSS, she's got a one-track mind and it's making me hate her
>>527731205Queen could see her search results.
Would a vessel tulpa just be actually me? Or would it be something different?
>>527731183Busy implementing mic and mouse support for hidden Mike battle and minigames sorry
>>527730080complete AoE Titan freezing
>>527731261What were you fapping to on your phone? That's the most important part
You think there's gonna be any way to get Kris to like us/the SOUL?
>>527731315How do you think you arrived in this world in the first place?
>>527731145>>527731315stop talking about Tulpas!
>>527731096>>527731183im really disappointed we don't get any new weapons.
>>527731285She also doesn't mention anything about Kris playing the piano again despite saying things like how she felt like it felt like a concert just for her
>>527731384I thought I simply came down in a beam of light
>>527731285>sees Queen about to crush Kris>LET GO OF SUSIE!
>>527731261this is "My cock got caught in the ceiling fan" tier shit, dude, how do you FUCK UP JACKING OFF
>>527731285>>527731279There's also the chance she only says that stuff not really meaning it but entirely to appear more single to Susie. Which is also pathetic and deserves rose allegories.
The gallery part in chapter 4 was touching
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>>527731096Got a Ralsei one?
>>527731086Queen was a part of Kris and Dess old make believe playtime, hence all of Queen's baseball theming
Dess was Noelle's big sister
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made a static Tenna
>>527730792>>527730813Spamton and Gerson are a little scuffed since I couldn't think of anything better, here is a hee-ho
hee-ho
>>527731406>>527731393This stupid simp doe. She deserves to be fucked at best.
WHY CAN'T I POST AN IMAGE IT SAYS CONNECTION ERROR
>>527727643Based Spy vs. Spy enjoyer
>>527731280>Queen constantly getting drunk around Kris, chapter 4 shows us the BS Kris has to deal with with Toriel>Susie is so neglected that she eats chalk and one of her core memories is Toriel being nice to her once, and Queen doesn't give Susie nearly as much attention as the other Lightners>Carol is overbearing and has high expectations for Noelle, Queen is constantly trying to make Noelle the key in her master plan>nobody remembers Berdly's name, including his own mom, Queen always calls him Burghley and wants to avoid him>Ralsei has no mom, Queen completely forgets he exists
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>>527731543just spam the post button until it goes through, it works for me
>>527731353https://files.catbox.moe/cow9dj.jpg
DON'T JUDGE ME
>>527731408i'm used to doing it standing up in the shower, man. i've done it sitting down probably four or five times ever
>>527731504I meant to attach this image link but honestly that was funnier
https://files.catbox.moe/w7cmxh.jpg
>>527730315>The SOUL is trying to make her the girl in the prophecy instead of SusieI think she's already the girl in the prophecy and Ralsei/Gerson/probably others are trying to change that.
>>527731425With the statues? How so
>>527731458Thanks thats an actual reason i missed that
>>527731086>>527731458Tenna mentions them bringing the laptop home which is likely how he met Spamton
I assooom Toriel just donated the laptop to the library or something
>>527731552>>nobody remembers Berdly's name, including his own mom, Queen always calls him Burghley and wants to avoid himI like the rest of your post but where did you get this from? Genuine question
>>527731403the blinding light...
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>>527731609>ant tenna>Not Anne Tenna or Aunt Tenna
>>527731609God I wish I was Tenna with boobs and lipstick
huhh
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>>527731590pick your least favorite blanket and jerk off under it
blow into the blanket when you do
probably wash it intermittently or throw it out when you're ready to say goodbye and then pick a new blanket
you're welcome
>>527730518DONยดT EVER FUCK WITH TULPAS!
>>527731590...what were the earbuds for?
>>527731654modding... DELTARUNE modding save me... save me deltarune modders..
>>527731635Ah if that's the case the soul is sticking to the prophecy while Kris and others try to stop it
>>527731757Are the shadows and red eye meant to imply the soul is possessing her?
is chapter 4 the only route you can get the egg in while also doing snowgrave AND killing everything?
snowgrave ch2 disables egg, killing everything in ch3 disables egg, ch4 doesn't matter either way the room always spawns
>>527731609Ann Tenna...my beloved
>>527731754music. what else am i supposed to listen to? the sounds of my breathing and a light squelching? no thanks.
and before you ask, the song was black knife from chapter 3.
>>527731552>Susie is so neglected that she eats chalk and one of her core memories is Toriel being nice to her once, and Queen doesn't give Susie nearly as much attention as the other LightnersWe know nothing about Susie's parents, except that she refuses to call them on the phone. We don't even know if she has a mother at all.
>nobody remembers Berdly's name, including his own momWhen the fuck does it say that Berdly's mom doesn't remember him? Also if this were true then Berdly's behavior towards Queen would imply an Oedipus complex.
In conclusion: It is HEADCANON
>>527731425I like the guy who suggests that his people should adopt what is apparently the Darkner equivalent of a paleo diet (only nuts and seeds)
>>527731590I have judged you.
ACCEPTABLE
>>527727947>Krishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z32wx2QKQBk
>Susiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fVv_3iV9bk
>Ralseihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxfbajMAqk4
>Kinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Iwytfa6ms
>Queenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8Pma1vHmw
>Tennahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjz23Q92A4s
>Lancerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUOX6kAIxI
>Jevilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQeTZKI43rY
>Rambhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSH--SJKVQQ
>Spamtonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOLTCw7sA14
>The Knighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awT8FFHKikc
>Carolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1j4GDX1IB4
>Gersonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmUw6Y_z6I
(bonus round)
>Berdlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3pfbCn1BSY
>Gaster/egg manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8scSwaKbE64
>>527731849Did they not have sex ed at your highschool growing up? how are you so bad at jacking off???
>>527731261Pizzapants core...he would do that exactly like you did
>>527731693YOUR TOO BRIGHT
>>527731926D-did your sex ed classes teach you proper jacking form
I just woke up from a dream where I found the"Dess room". In the dream I went on 4chan and everyone in Deltarune threads talked about the Dess room. The Dess room is a place where you customize Dess like you did the Vessel. Then you specify "what Dess thinks of Kris" and it leads to a borderline rape flashback scene regardless of your answer. With the Dess that Kris remembers forcing herself on Kris.
I love when anons just make stuff up about the game and taint my brain with false memories I'll access down the line!
>>527731965They taught me what NOT to do and that was basically it
>>527731261why the fuck are you larping as burgerpants irl
>>527731646The NPCs resonated with me, stuck standing around worshipping the past
>>527731849>black knifeOkay, I think I understand.
>>527731846>>527732004Yea I really liked the Noelle anal scene too
>>527732017Nta but more then what they thought me, there was literally 0 talk about masturbation in my sex ed.
>>527731685Ramb was """borrowed""" from the library so I assooom that Queen was also being borrowed from the library
if Kris had a soul what color/trait would it be
>>527731968>Dess raped Kris>Dess makes Kris rape her sister>Possesses Kris to do it again
>>527732004Remember when Carol told Kris good job on raping and impregnating her daughter.
>>527731261>this is why i only do it while showeringThey're coming out of the pipes.
They're crawling out of the pipes.
Where are they going...!?
Hahaha... I... don't... KNOW!!
Ahahahahahaha!!!
>>527731458>everyone thinks it's noelle>it's actually dess grooming and molesting krisholy fuck... meme magic is real...
>>527732004Noelleโs handlebarsโฆ
Kris either saw Dess as a cool big sister or had a crush on her.
>>527732162Dess was the original Susie, everyone was into her
>>527731582I did this when the problems first started and not only did it not work, it also brought my captchas up to 300 seconds for a long while and made mustard gas
>>527732017Like what specifically? Not to shove glass in your urethra?
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Kris was crushed underneath Dess's huge tits
>>527727947Anyone saying Spamton isn't One Weird Tip is incorrect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnKNUnLL3X0
>>527731693can you explain this meme to me i dont really get it
dess really reminds me of laura palmer
This shit is enough to make a grown man commit suicide.
>>527731261Should've been born a girl, you could just wear a pad
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>>527732213Looks like I can post images, but I'm not getting a (You) for my posts.
Weird.
>>527728047currently going with A. trying to decide whether or not I want to include clover. id like to outsource this what do y'all think
>>527732184Honestly Susie's turn from "Scary freak who everyone hates" to "Giant hunk of love that everyone wants" in the span of like 3 in game days is so insane
Granted, Noelle wanted to get her from eons ago, but Borglead jumping on that ship too is truly amazing, the girl has no idea what her giant sweaty axe swinging does to people
>>527732254why'd toby write this tv so pathetically technology doesn't give a fuck
are you gonna go cry about that usb flashdrive you used to store that homework one time and never touched again
>>527731849>furiously masturbating while black knife playsMy fucking sides
>>527732340More like white knife amirite
>>527732254So what are the small Tennalings? Spamton does the same thing when he creators mini versions of himself to attack. In the cut third board they appear to have their own personality and one even talks back to the OG tenna. Are they an actual entity or simply aspects of Tenna's own mind, like his subconscious presenting on the screen?
>>527732227Okay so long story short
someone just made this image of a huge ass glowing white ball, a reference to "HUMAN, I REMEMBER YOU'RE GENOCIDES" from undertale post on reddit
and then a couple days ago, some anon posted that his idea of a schizo boss in their dark world would be "the blinding light"
so my mind jumped right away to that Carol image and then is just started spreading
see
>>527532864
>>527728047Would the virus effect Darkners, or is the Dark World the only safe haven from it?
>>527732017They never taught me.
I spent 10 years masturbating by lying on my stomach and rubbing up against furniture.
>>527730604>the soul doesn't do anything you don't tell It to do.It does turn yellow on its own that one time, also seals the fountains on its own. But I agree otherwise.
>>527732236Some anon from a few threads ago had the same idea
>>527732208That, don't use honey, chocolate syrup, or whipped cream, cuz they cause problems, how to use a condom, and an extremely brief mention of BDSM (choking stuff, and blood flow restriction in general and why it's bad)
Need Noelle to look like this in ch5 weird route
>>527732329They're great characters but conceptually it's retarded.
You heard me, Toby, Toy Story is shit.
>>527732329>one timethat's the thing though, Tenna's a CRT from like the 80's
dude has seen at least two generations of family and friends hang out almost every night for decades
do you not remember playing video games as a kid? how many hours did you spend in front of a tv with a controller in your hands?
Tenna is what would happen if the walls could talk and tell their story, except he's a TV instead of the walls
>>527732452I turn yellow sometimes, even when I'm not trying.
>>527730702>bloodstain next to itDoes Kris bleed when they rip the the soul out? I don't remember seeing blood.
>>527732418undecided, but currently leaning towards it being able to damage their source objects but not directly affect their darkener forms. not something that comes up often until they figure out how to give darkners bodies, and after that they work by monster rules
>>527732523nigga its an object
>Friendโs eyes are yellow and pink
>the Spare colour in Undertale and Deltarune is yellow
>โฆbut you can also change the Spare text to pink in Undertale by talking to a Froggit
>sparing = making friends with somebody
>>527732596anon are you ralsei
>>527731849>>527732340https://files.catbox.moe/cfrxwd.mp3
>>527732312Going by what we hear about Susie as a kid it seems that she was always bright and friendly but got punished for it for being genuinely straight up autistic and that's fucked with her head
>>527732596You're right anon everything is just an object
Proceed
>>527732510Why is she giving the ugly bastard look?
>>527732562There's no blood when they do it otherwise there'd be blood in the living room and all over Noelle's house
However, if you clean the bloodstain early in ch4, there's a fresh one in the same spot in the end. So Kris is bleeding somehow.
>>527732698She's going to return the favor and rape Kris
>>527732606Imagine being molested in a straitjacket
>>527732705Damn, nice catch. I wonder if Kris self harms and the sleeves hide it or if it has something to do with beating the soul to a pulp.
>>527732596Autistic people anthropomorphize objects a lot more, anon
Also, do you not take care of your things? I have A set of mugs I use for my coffee, they're MY mugs, I get nervous when other people handle them because they aren't THEIR mugs and I know they don't care as much.
>>527731417Shes like such a fake.
I will ask about the tulpa again...... later
so it's gonna be a snowstorm in chapter 5 right
>>527731378Simple. Susie and Ralsei like (You), Kris likes Susie and Ralsei, therefore Kris must tolerate (You) to rejoin the friend group after the obligatory traitor arc. Power of friendship always wins.
>>527732846I will tell you not to again later
>>527732606Why is this doe so hot when she's in misery. I have so many images of it saved
Yes the NTR stuff gets me too just because miserable doe hot
>>527732854Rainstorm on normal route as the song from the sea starts to get louder, snowstorm on weird route
>>527732843A faker rich bitch who does whatever will make the person in front of her happy. Rape correction needed
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>>527732795Many such cases in the 1920s and 30s anytime a woman was institutionalized
>>527732656Incredibly menacing, these are the sounds coming from the bunker
>>527732841>Also, do you not take care of your things? I have A set of mugs I use for my coffee, they're MY mugs, I get nervous when other people handle them because they aren't THEIR mugs and I know they don't care as much.anon it's a fuckin mug. it's used to drink a beverage. it doesn't matter to anyone. it has one purpose. to be used for drinking. it feels nothing. it does nothing.
yes i take care of my things so they don't break and i have to get another one. i dont personify them. that's the behavior of a literal baby.
>>527732854>>527732930With how many deaths are predicted on the weird route it's possible there's literally a storm of dead monster's dust and that forms into an abomination
>>527732162And then Asriel got super jealous
On the Knight question:
In any typical narrative (which Deltarune is) Carol is the red herring introduced at the same time as the information on Dess to distract from her and make it seem like Carol is the Knight.
I still just can't get over the idea anyone has contact with Dess or that Dess can enter the Light World though, so Dess isn't the Knight. Probably.
>>527732915it's because you know, deep down she's into it
*very* into it
>>527731757Vriska Dess.....
>>527732837I can see it being self harm but I wonder if Toby will go that far. Maybe it DOES have to do with beating the SOUL up. After Kris kicks the shit out of us in ch4 weird route, they only have 10/20 HP in the light world.
>>527732510For me itโs cringekinotraveler
>>527732837Kris does self harm but not by cutting, you see him take physical damage when he kicked you while you were in the garbage can. He self harms but only by proxy of attacking the SOUL.
>>527733001>anon it's a fuckin mug. it's used to drink a beverage. it doesn't matter to anyone. it has one purpose. to be used for drinking. it feels nothing. it does nothing.NTA but that's mean...
>>527732837Kris cutting and bleeding in a specific, obvious spot is too over the top and needless, there has to be a reason that it happens that we donโt know about.
Between chapters 1+2 and 3+4 I went from "Susie is cool I guess" to "I will kill for her if it comes down to that"
>>527732837>>527733104I assumed it was the Soul's blood from being abused since it's right next to the cage
When have we been a part of kris? Since childhood or literally as soon the game began?
>>527732656Imagine I posted a picture of Hank Hill stifling a laugh in reaction to this funny point
>>527733001Imagine being such a soulless faggot that you don't give your car a slap on the bumper for a job well done.
>>527732915>>527733031Uwwooogh Kris romantically kissing Noelle's hand like a knight and princess but her finger is bleeding from the thorn
>>527733186probably from before, only recently have (WE) taken a more active role, the cage and stain were there from before the story
>>527732705Kris's bleeding comes from the missing hand
>>527733073and by kicking a metal garbage can so hard it gets dented multiple times
>>527733164Susiecoin inclined and Ralseicoin shot to the moon for me in 3 and 4.
Noellecoin on the other handโฆ
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>>527733001You're missing the point
Kris & Co. played make belief with these objects as young children and dark worlds are basically magically enhanced make belief
>>527733193Going? Anon you have been insane for as long as I have known you.
>>527731458>the girl Kris played with was actually DessActual good Toby Fox subversion. Looking back is there any reason to think Dess and Azzy were the same age? It seems that the sisters having the same age gap as Kris and Azzy was just an assumption. Even Dess dating Azzy is just a guess from her wearing his jacket, but Susie and Kris also wear his clothes.
Noelle gets a "theme" once Snowgrave continues that's like a fusion of Lost Girl and Your Best Friend
post kfw (knight face when) the roaring revives gerson
>>527733186Literally At The Start Chapter 1
Many Talk About Kris "Suddenly" Acting Strange, Dont They?
King, Queen and Tenna watching a teenager girl molesting a little kid.
>>527733164That is also Kris' reaction to her over the course of 4 days
Be honest. Would you even be here if there was no doe rape?
>>527733209it's inanimate. it has no soul. it has no life.
the only things that are acceptable to talk to are pets and plants
>>527733272okay but im specifically calling that anon a faggot for his happy gay little mugs
>>527732915>in lieu of drawing stuff from the new chapters, zarla is drawing gay middle-aged pokemon professors Why do I get the feeling she didnโt like the heterosexuality
>>527733228The bloody hand....
they're coming out of the pipes
they're crawling out of the pipes
>>527733259Noellecoin is only down if you take her having mixed feelings about her relationship with Kris as a betrayal which is for freaks from freak freak families
>>527733164Same. She is one of my favorite video game characters in general at this point.
>>527733262I want swolesei to dodecadecimate my bitch switch
>>527733293It was an assumption based on Dessโ interests. She came across like she was the cooler older teen sister even back in Chapter 2.
>>527731654What if instead of Ragger 2 we got Thugger 2
>>527733347I would not be on /utg/ engrossed in Deltarune discussion and occasionally making doerape greentexts. I woudk enjoy Deltarune as each chapter comes out then out it down and do other things between.
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>>527733413don't know what that means, but okay based
>>527733343Kris talked to her prior the game's events but it's really hard to gauge what the fuck they're thinking about in the New_new_girl post because they're being a silent weirdo
nigga ralsei was way cooler than lightmode ralsei
do we agree
>>527727947>Spamtonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg
>>527733210The best part about this image is that, realistically, Noelle would just laugh it off as one of his pranks.
>Fahaha...
>>527733518he had the pass and looked a lot cooler, like Vivi
>>527729026>Dark Fountain is opened in the Sewers>Dark smoke leaks from the sinks and toilets>All previous Dark World become available and interconnected>Castle Town NPC horde comes to help you
>>527733210But the one making her into something truly great is not Kris, it is us - if one is to be the saver of the damsel, it is (YOU)
>>527731968The prophecy has revealed itself...
>>527733479https://deltarune.com/the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl/
this thing is just filled with plotholes
is it even canon?
>>527732067Cyan, that's why they have a knife and can wear ribbons
>>527733654Anon, what are you talking about?
>>527731849>>527732340>>527732656>OH FUCK IM ROARING IT IM ROARING IT SO GOOD>YOU HAVE TO GOON KRIS
>>527733475/utg/ would be a terrible influence on Ralsei
>>527733654What do you mean plotholes, anon, it's just written by Noelle (who's more interested in eating dino minge than being coherent)
>>527733276You don't know me, I hope
>>527733413>dodecadecimateI spent 5 minutes trying to read that
>>527728047what weapon should Noelle use
>>527733303I can't post images so take this artistic rendition instead
Y_Y
<O>
(He is shocked)
>>527732120>the sketchy pop ups are from Dess showing Kris what porn is for the first time
>>527733293I think Dess and Asriel could be the same age and she and Kris could still be close friends with similar weird interests
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>>527733730ralsei is a better 4chan troll than motherfucking jevil and sans combined
>>527733320No they say Kris has recently started to act different and in weird route Noelle mentions how Kris was different in the "old days" so I think there has been a power struggle for control that leans more and more to our side and kris has changed because of it
>>527733701>>5277337431: Alphys just randomly disappears.
Noelle mentions staying around to clean up and look around for supplies along with Alphys, but after this point Alphys is just never mentioned again. Noelle even says that she eventually left the classroom (And stayed just outside it, hence witnessing this entire ordeal,) but Alphys leaving is never mentioned.
We see in chapter 2 that, usually, Alphys sticks around until all of her students have left, Staying around until Kris leaves, so her even leaving while Kris and Susie are still present would be unusual even if her leaving was established.
Speaking of Kris falling asleep.
2: Kris seemingly fell asleep.
According to Noelle's description, it seems like on the day of the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl, Kris was asleep for the majority of the class. (Or at the very least for the tail end of it.)
This is really similar to what happens at the beginning of chapter 2, Which Alphys explicitly calls out is unusual. She makes a point to state that Kris doesn't usually sleep through the whole class. If anything they just sleep through the beginning of it. Not the end. It isn't normal, much less common, for Kris to do this. (And the simple way Alphys phrased her concern suggests it's the first time she's seen this happen.)
It's even implied to have some kind of connection with the ending of chapter 1 where their soulless body does things during the night. (Soulless Kris's antics causing Kris's body to be sleep deprived, THANKS SK,) Further suggesting that it's unusual.
3: Noelle knows about the chalk.
Noelle's entire reason for staying around was to help Alphys put away books and, quote,
"(look for some mysteriously missing supplies X) )."
This coy phrasing clearly implies that she knows something about the disappearing chalk.
The problem? Kris has to TELL her it was Susie at the end of chapter 1.
This entire scene would have to take place after Chapter 1 for her to know this.
>>527733654noelle's always been a traitor huh
>>527733634where image from
>>527731693blinding shining star
>>527732539You should see a doctor about that, Frisk
>>5277338424: Susie's confrontation with Kris is redundant.
Susie confronts Kris in the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl over them not speaking. She gets so angry because Kris refuses to speak, she totally lays into them, projecting all her emotional issues onto them, screaming at them to say something, and then when they finally do say something, (Most likely something along the lines of "Are you okay?" or "Is that how you feel?") Susie just put them down and walked away from class with her head down in shame.
This incident should have seriously affected Susie on an emotional level. Chapter 1 shows that it's not really that hard to crack open the wall Susie puts up around herself, and for what happened to get that kind of reaction out of her would certainly do so.
But the problem here is that assuming the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl is real and happens prior to the game, she does the same exact thing AGAIN.
Susie comes to school in the Chapter 1 prologue, she threatens and bullies Kris yet again, and even makes a pointed remark about Kris never talking.
"You really think just because you don't talk I don't know exactly what you're thinking?"
It's weird enough that she'd target Kris again after the kind of emotional demolition that the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl was for her, But it's utter nonsense for her to say something like this to someone who emotionally exposed her BY speaking to her!
The confrontation at the beginning of Chapter 1 is actively portrayed as if it's their first confrontation.
Which leads into the final and biggest contradiction.
Guys, what is your favorite sans AU?
>>527733868https://e621.net/posts/3526857
>>527733931thank you anon, good shit
>>5277339145: Noelle herself confirms that she has never seen Susie do this.
Noelle, the one person who supposedly witnessed this entire event go down, says, outright,
Who doesn't wonder about her? I mean, she never talks to anyone!
She says this, to Kris. Someone Susie has talked to, someone Noelle supposedly SAW her talk to.
And this sentiment of Susie not interacting with anyone is further established by Monster Teen, saying this,
I mean, I never saw her beat anyone up, but I'd be careful.
They once again say this directly to Kris, who, according to the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl, she has attempted to give a black eye, verbally attacked, and bullied regularly ever since she moved here.
And the fact that Snowdrake is standing right there suggests at the very least the Snowdrake hasn't seen her pick on anyone either. (And to an extent it can be assumed no one else in class has, cause, well, gossip gets around among a demographic, especially in a small town, so if anyone saw her pick on anyone, there's a decent chance everyone would know about it.)
We don't see much of Kris's life overall at the beginning of chapter 1, but there's absolutely nothing in that area of the plot implying that Susie and Kris have any kind of prior connection, or have even interacted at all, much less that Kris is a regular target for Susie's bullying.
And everyone else in class has the same lack of information, INCLUDING NOELLE. Which is a massive fundamental contradiction with the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl, because in the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl, Noelle literally SEES her do all of this.
I do kind of want to see Asgore kill Sans.
I never really picked up on just how much Susie likes Toriel even from minute one
If you try to go to Toriel's classroom she jokes about going with you before reconsidering
>>527733648Not against it, but I can never really picture Kris having tits.
Why didn't toby make Chairiel a darkner anyways?
>Hey everybody, and welcome to the Hometown podcast!
>I'm your star/host, Hapstablook!
>Today, we have a special guest - Kris Dreemurr! This kind young thing gave me a free TV the other day! Say hi, Kris!
>...
>Ooookay, so they're a little shy! That's fine! Kris, what did you come to talk with us about?
>...Susie
>Susie? That daring dinosaur? What about her?
>...Susie...cute
>How adorable! How precious! How romanticalacious! It seems our dear Kris has a crush on the purple dinosaur!
>That's all for our special guest, so I'd like to thank today's sponsor, Royal Sciences VPN!
>*The radio was thrown against the wall
>*The radio shattered
>...Carol? It's Toriel.
>So, you heard it too.
>We have a common enemy. No son of mine is going to be with a filthy lizard!
>Get the shotgun.
>>527734039>Susie watching Toriel acting like a drunk slutfuck man.
>>527734039A shame this pedestal got broken.
>>527734071he did, it was just happy where it was
>>5277338421. Noelle is bad at writing so I just assumed she left before Noelle and went to look for something somewhere else while Noelle looked for stuff in the classroom
2. Kris is a weirdo who might not actually even be asleep, just having their head down, they could also just be doing that "ough i'm so sluggish and zombie-like" routine they pull
3. This is a reach and a half, she doesn't mention anything about chalk, and Noelle does the "X)" at a bunch of other random points in the post
TLDR Noelle is bad at writing and also wants susie to rip her face off
>>527734015So by all accounts, the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl simply can't happen prior to chapter 1. And it doesn't make sense for it to happen after 2, cause Noelle still refers to her as The new girl, and also what on earth could possibly drive this kind of rift between Kris and Susie again?
What I find especially interesting is how point 2 to makes it seem like the entire scenario is some kind of alternate twisted version of The beginning of chapter 2, which would also satisfy the other temporal contradictions.
Which makes me wonder, where have we seen the prospect of a distorted version of reality before? A distorted version of reality that, particularly, has Kris and Susie not being on good terms?
That's right, The Shadow Crystals! (Or more specifically, their light world version, "Glass.")
If you keep the Shadow Crystals and look through the "Glass" they become in the Light World, you see a distortion of reality. In one instance Kris's hand seems to disappear, in another, Susie stares coldly at Kris as if the two weren't friends. A vision that Kris even verifies as false by looking around the Shadow Crystal and seeing Susie playfully doing a rude gesture in their direction.
Connecting these two things would help explain why Susie still dislikes Kris in the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl, despite Chapter 1 apparently having happened already, as well as why Noelle says that Susie has been targeting Kris often despite them never interacting prior to chapter 1.
In this twisted version of events, the fact that Susie and Kris have become friends in the real world and are spending a lot of time together is being translated and distorted into Kris being the primary target of Susie's harassment.
>>527734060Good thing I'm "picturing" it for you!
>>527734039>Kris. You've got a good Mother 2 Halloween Hack by Toby Fox.
>>527734142looks like yellow berdly
>>527733915Darker Yet Darker, itโs just a backstory comic with him and Gaster
>>527734126Do we have a clear outline of the Glass timeline yet?
>>527734060Am I gay if I always envision Kris being a guy?
I kinda just projected myself onto him and that's how I see him.
>>527732523Tenna is clearly a 90s tv with IR remote. 80s tvs had those shitty dials. Also no wood paneling
>>527734218No, Kris comes across as mostly masculine.
I just don't like how much of an asshole Noelle comes across as by being such a giga simp. She keeps throwing Kris under the bus, keeps using her lust for Susie as an excuse to "help" Kris, and genuinely seems to not give a fuck about them even when they're in danger.
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>>527732656>>527733727>I'M ROARING, KRIS>I'T'S A DARK FOUNTAIN IN MY PANTS, KRIS>THE SKY'S RUNNING BLACK, KRIS
>>527734218Yes
You are the gayest motherfucker since gay came to gay town
>>527734218Kris is masculine. A flamboyant/chuuni masculine though.
>>527734218>>527734271>>527734336>Projecting yourself on a character with no explicitly stated genderThat is indeed the point of not stating Kris' gender.
>>527734286Kris is using Susie to further the Knight's plans and is going to completely break any hope she had grown in her heart so fuck 'em
Krusie type relationship
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOfisAF09AA
I want to jack off to dess raping kris and not participate in another fucking gender debate
>>527734392Okay but SHE doesn't know that
>>527734286If Noelle was a man fan reaction would be a LOT different but all is excused when you are a cute girl.
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>Good thing I'm "picturing" it for you!
quit posting trash pornslop on /utg/.
>>527734286this'll lead to issues during the festival when she ends up talking a little too much shit about kris and pissing off susie
have trust in the dog, this is building up to be more interesting than alphyne
Does anyone here still play Undercards?
>The knight we meet in chapter 3 is called the roaring knight
>All mentionings before this were written as the knight
2 knights theory
I specifically remember the religion in the game using a cross as a symbol, if not on the church then at least on a prayer book or something. And I'm not misremembering the religion as being Christianity, because I remember thinking "Huh, kind of strange they use a cross if they're not Christian." Did I get Mandela Effect'd?
>>527734472She was shit talking Kris in front of Susie and all Susie could think about was "What about OUR ferris wheel date though?"
Susie just completely ignored it.
I missed something but I don't know where I missed it.
What chapter and what route was Susies room shown in? I just finished snowgrave chapter 4 and maybe I missed something?
>>527734468>In the dark, objects shapes are indistinct>You can use your mind to imagine the outline of the Knight shifts and waversThicc Knight is CANON
>>527734435Shrek 2 is Kino so this post is 100% true
>>527733582If Lancer was a girl would Noelle groom or rape her?
>>527734547Monster Kid has a cross necklace in Deltarune.
>>527734472What "shit" has Noelle been talking about Kris
All she's done is have mixed feelings about her relationship with them because Kris used to bully her and things got weird after Dess disappeared, you guys are just making things up to get mad at now
>>527734564ch3 flashback near the end
>>527734590>Cute..?>Me...?>Still...?I don't know. DessKnight is so montruous looking we're nearing eldritch level.
>>527734618Excuse me what why Noelle is she mimicking us in the weird route now??? Is Noelle gonna start raping everyone
>>527734538What? That's Not True
In CH2 It Was Already Called "Roaring Knight" By Queen
>>527733842lmao I also read that post anon, nice try
>>527734564I really don't remember it. Was it an optional scene?
>>527734674We know, Gerson.
>>527734564In chapter 3 when Ralsei does his big Darkners 101 lecture
>>527734553she's talking shit about specific things kris did years ago if i remember her dialogue correctly and susie is canonically dense af
but even she'll pick up on it if she talks shit about things kris currently does and perhaps susie does as well, unbeknownst to noelle
Wanna know how to fix Chara? Have a goth deer girl molest them!
>Thicc Knight is CANON
what did I just say?
>>527734689>why Noelle is she mimicking us in the weird route now???No, the Weird Route is what Noelle would do.
>>527734286This is why Susie should just vore Noelle I doubt she'd complain much unless she doesn't want to be digested but judging how she thinks of Susie she doesn't seem like she'd even mind
>>527734365Thatโs certainly an opinion that you have on my opinion.
>Noelle was used up
>Kris was used up
Bro, what's our endgame?
>>527734832we'll finally be so tall we can see into [ H E A V E N ]
>>527734832to hell with all these kids
where the fuck is my vessel
>>527727947>Krishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0vdgsVJGHQ
>Susiehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83B083Lsbfc
>Ralseihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPfUy4j9V7c
>Kinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u--wSgeJUOs
>Queenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YyY6v87qsA
>Tennahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY9mF06ZVFI
>Lancerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvMyo3opDOY
>Jevilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYaiMTPWh78
>Spamtonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVxTL43Czuc
>Rambhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvfkPq248Qo
>The Knighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv6hGW8cou4
>Carolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gU_54ibyKM
>Gersonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bnKY83hEAc
>>527734832Vessel.
Asriel.
Uhhhhhh
One of the many other monsters in hometown.
>>527734682>when you beat the Knight her form becomes staticky and indistinctI'm telling you, the Knight's form is malleable. You just gotta think big.
>>527734832Killing the world for points
>>527734878GIVE ME MY FUCKING BODY
WHERE IS HE
WHERE IS TERRY
Jevil = Spamton = Ralsei = Asriel >>> Susie > Noelle ? Dess
Tasque manager > Queen >>>> Toriel
Asgore
Sans = Papyrus
>527734796
That Rudy Was The Knight
And Also Previously, Kris
>>527734624That's probably what I was thinking of. I remembered it being more obvious, though.
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>>527734832Marry Noelle???????
>>527734832Putting our soul penis into emotional holes to get stronger until they loosen and lose their use.
>>527727947Why did you vore 3 & 4
>>527733842>>527733914>>527734015Easy way to solve all of these "plotholes" is if the blog entry is from a timeline where the player doesn't take control of Kris, or in other words, that time loop theory is actually real.
>>527734985I will legitimately personally make it my goal to rape Toby Fox if the Snowgrave route is actually the "become Berdley" route.
>>527734825Keep projecting, bud. It's literally the point. Better fucking have fun imagining yourself as Kris, gay boy.
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>>527734985He's a popsicle wtf you mean Berdly???? you gonna do a shinji on him is that the goal
>>527734832>>527734878>the climax of Earthbound involves putting your minds into robot bodies so you can survive the final dungeon and final boss encounter>Toby is a massive Mother fanTrust the plan, Vessel IS endgame.
If you do the Weird Route, it not only uninstalls Deltarune but you have to buy the game again too
>>527734832The originalStarwalker
>>527734126Yep. n3west girl/shadow glass takes place in the alternate chapter 1 that happens if you never play the game.
can't believe this is canon now
>>527735136if they pull any of this โremembering your actionsโ shit im fucking killing Toby.
Noelle cast MutedMelodygrave on Berdly
>>527735179>NowIt's been canon since the sweepstakes
>>527735096turn the heat on bro
you need that vessel
>>527734920plaplaplaplaplap
>>527734832I'll make Gaster proud and win the game.
>>527735096I think the idea is that heโs braindead so heโs incapable of resisting like Kris
Noelle, cast Megalogravia on Sans.
does anyone know how to save edit the ranks you get in the chapter 3 minigames because i'm so fucking tired of playing susiezilla over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
>>527734689Holiday women tradition
Noelle is into temperature play.
Why are they helping out Kris and Susie so much?
>>527735340and for what? I donโt think thereโs a reward.
>>527735181Spamton says you'll regret it for the rest of your life, should have believed him.
please help, i just beat the bat boss.
did i fuck up on getting the egg? what does the egg do exactly?
do i have to do the entire chapter again? should i just play the game like normal?
>>527735305Noelle kill this guy. Noelle make a bird shit on this guy's head. Noelle make a thousand plagues befall this guy. Noelle force him to watch golden girls
>>527735340there is literally zero reward for getting s or t rank in susiezilla
Carol Holiday, maiden name..... Gaster
>>527735316go drink a glass of water
>>527735340>JEVIL GOT TIRED OF SPINNING...>>527735378Teacher instincts took over.
If Gerson Undertale was anything like Gerson Deltarune he must've literally just thrown the war because he didn't like the idea of becoming a mega god and wiping out humanity
>>527735378>KrisGaster is helping ME
>>527734985>>527735271>>527735286The fuck am I gonna do in the body of that dickless skinnyfat nerd
>>527735461I swear there was some dialogue from UT where Gerson disagreed with Asgore's plan, so he probably didnt want anyone to die needlessly.
>>527735461Gerson Undertale is just a regular monster while Gerson Deltarune is hopped up on that Admiration and Love juice that Darkners seem to get powered up by
All Kris wants is for things to go back to the way they were.
>>527735530Kill people. Kill Ralseiโs bitch ass.
>>527735530Beggars can't be choosers
>>527735461Gerson Undertale doesn't have awesome Darkner powers. He's just a regular old monster who, while extremely skilled, is no match for most humans.
Remember, he's seen as a hero just because he survived the war. And not a single Human died in the war.
>>527735578Wasnt That Deleted?
>>527735001>Susie becomes 5% nicer because Toriel comforted her, like some kind of "Toriel" variable>The Susie in the ARG is 5% meaner than usual>In the Sword Route game the black reindeer character turns into a black boss monster character because of the "Toriel" variableI am making thinking noises here
>How wonderful! The family is all together again!
Is Tenna retarded? What about Asriel?
>ralsei is an aborted/dead baby of asriel and dess reincarnated as a darkner
When people make theories, they should really do it under the assumption that toby is trying to keep this game as a T rating.
>>527735685I don't think so
Toby saying he "removed Among Us" was a joke in itself and wasn't a real update to the game.
>>527735731I think you can still have dead babies from underaged pregnancies in a T rated game
In chapter 4, I just realized that even if you complete the snow grave route, Susie still mentions that Queen told her how to make a dark world.
However, in the weird route, she never gets the chance to tell the us that. Ralsei cut her off, and she immediately goes to being a good guy who would never tell us how to make a dark world. Just a very small oversight that I thought was kind of cool.
If it were me, I would have had Kris create the dark world instead, which could maybe lead Susie to have some questions for them. This could stress even further how Kris is not who they seem.
The car scene also does not take place but is a part of the prophecy. Something fishy is going on or Toby fucked up
>>527735718He is a pile of dust now
>>527735625LIVE AND LEARN
HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW
I feel like weird route should have been saved for the full release. This isnt something we should have seen so early. We were supposed to play the full game normally and experience a bittersweet ending that would motivate us to get stronger.
>>527735718Kris goes to the diner to eat and draw on the glass with Susie so therefore Susie is Asriel
Thus Ralsei must be Asgore
>>527735806>Queen's chariot cannot be stopped>it stops because of a traffic jam
>>527735718Asriel is the knight
>>527735804I think you're nuts
>>527735710>In the Sword Route game the black reindeer character turns into a black boss monster character because of the "Toriel" variablehuh?
>>527735759He Will Never Do
"Removed Herobrine"
Levels Of Stuff
>>527735901The only one who truly had Kris's back no matter what.
>>527735921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8U5tnnCvQI
so, I have a few questions about this scene
>why does Noelle seem so shocked hearing this in the first image?
>why does she freak out like that?
>why does she care at all? she's all alone with Susie to her knowledge
>why does it seem as though she's getting JEALOUS of the mere hypothetical of Kris flirting with ANYBODY?
>or, otherwise, is she freaking out over the idea that maybe Kris was flirting with HER and she simply didn't notice, but Susie did?
>when kris gives the knife to susie, he hands it over blade first
yikes someone teach this twat manners maybe???
>>527735945https://youtube.com/watch?v=5z7ugBaZsp8
>>527735806I think Toby just fucked up.
>>527736016noelle is freaking out over the fact that kris may have been flirting with susie and it's working on susie
that's it
that's the point
>>527735901I will FINDHIM and I will SAVEHIM
>>527736016She thinks Kris has been flirting with Susie.
>>527736098no, that was literally the prior exchange, and her reaction here was worse
>>527736016She's worried Kris is flirting with Susie and has become competition, or worse, Kris and Susie are dating
>>527735731You could use this concept in a T-rated game, if you handled it carefully. It's not like you'd have to show the actual impregnation and abortion. But either way, it doesn't seem like something Toby would put in the game.
I have a new theory I cooked, I think the soul isn't us or the player in the weird route we are goku that's why we focus so much on Noelle being stronger
>>527730764you are right
>>527735901>there is no confirmation on if he's still in the Dreemurr householdI need answers. Did ERAM take him for real?
>>527694631>Well, it may be very well referring to Dess. It's just a timing issue. The dialogue in question references a time point after December's birth but before Noelle's. So everything checks out.Not strictly impossible but he later changed it to a mention of Noelle ("youngest daughter") so I think Dess straight up hadn't been invented yet, at least not in the form of a Holiday sister.
https://undertale.com/alarmclock/asgore/
I really don't think Toby planned everything out in detail fifteen years ago based on his dream or however the popular narrative goes, he never explained it in those terms and it's not how the creative process works for most people.
>>527736025Kris is trying to be a showoff
do you like fanart of realistic proportion or fanart that stays with in game proportions as close as possible
>>527736016noelle thinks kris is flirting with susie autism-san
>>527736147You can kill evil shadow creatures that look like unborn fetuses which is worrying
>Ralsei is an anagram for Israel
>his color scheme matches the Palestine flag
I think that Kris and Asriel had a falling out over their differing opinions on Israel. This escalated to violence, leading to Kris killing Asriel and hiding his ashes.
Ralsei is a Darkner made of Asriel's ashes, but an incomplete set of ashes, so he has a different personality.
I think that Asriel was pro-Israel, hence the name. And Ralsei is Kris's imaginary version of Asriel who would have never gotten into a disagreement in the first place, and thus supports Palestine, hence the colors.
>>527735901He's great, wish we were able to take him to castle town.
>Berdly is the key to all of this
What did Toby mean by this?
>>527736296Okay that's enough anon go to sleep and take your meds
>>527736072I believe in his ability to run with it
>>527736334His beak will be physically used as a key.
>>527736296'his colorscheme matches the palestine flag'
'...when I alter it'
>>527736016Noelle is realizing that Kris might have fucked her sister.
>>527735549I need this goober so muuuuuuch
>>527736334>Berdly is the Key>Keys are Evil in Deltarune as shown by the Sword Game>Therefore Berdly is EvilWEIRD ROUTE PLAYER'S a GOOD GUY?
>>527736016Because Kris is a human in a town of monsters and Noelle is racist.
>>527736218Natural curves and on-model stuff is always peak but we don't have a lot of pixels to work with for many sprites
>>527736334he's literally the game's equivalent of Papyrus and nobody seems ready to admit that
>>527736218i like on-model fanart more except for kris. i like when kris is depicted as taller and not the utter themlet they are, only because i self insert as them and i'm tall.
>>527736554self insert as someone taller then
like Noelle
>>527731458This is about Noelle isn't it? Why would Ramb think Kris and Noelle were a thing?
>>527736569Fuck I forgot her ears. Just a moment lads
Weird Route is so much better than genocide it's insane. Instead of one long, miserable run it's a few big changes and some small ones that seem to force themselves into the story like a creepypasta, then the game just pretends it didn't happen and moves on.
>>527736497Berdly is 10x more obnoxious and I'm glad he's dead.
>bu-Very glad he is dead.
>>527736597>Why would Ramb think Kris and Noelle were a thing?the childhood friend always wins
>>527736597You gotta turn down your romance vision a bit, man
>>527736218On model or within reason. I really hate when Kris, Susie or Noelle are given massive tits and asses. These characters are supple teens and look cute with lithe bodies.
>if you don't do pacifist tenna dies
i'm finding it genuinely difficult to do an attack everyone run with this knowledge in mind
>>527736098>>527736138>>527736145>>527736235'haven't you like, SEEN THEM FLIRT with people?'
Susie is asking Noelle directly in a way that indicates it's not with her, before Susie became friends with Kris, Kris spent a lot more time with Noelle and Susie knows that.
that's why it's so strange that Noelle seems upset at the idea, if she didn't care about what Kris did in that regard, she wouldn't react in this manner to the notion.
>>527736661>Holy Fucking Secondary
>>527736497Honestly, I do think this is true.
Papyrus comes across as an arrogant dumbass with delusions of grandeur in the pacifist route. And you know that twitter would be on his ass for trying to date a child if UT came out today. He really redeems himself in genocide, where it's clear that he is a good and innocent person at heart who believes in you to his dying breath.
Berdly also gives a bad impression in the normal route, being a similar arrogant dumbass, but the fight against him with Noelle is where he redeems himself by realizing that this isn't just fun and games and you're putting Noelle in very real danger. He only spams his best attack, only hits Kris, and drops the knight in shining armor act.
The real difference is that the genocide route seems to largely dominate undertale discussion, while snowgrave doesn't for deltarune.
>>527736729It's a gag, sperg. It's for comedy. You're not supposed to take it seriously.
>>527736418Need him for what...
>>527736756...is what you would say to a Berjitabro
>>527735901He's a real one. Might even be my favorite character from the new chapters. I just hope we get see him again.
>>527736016Kris and flirting do *not* go in the same sentence
>>527734894karkalicious. why did i never notice gold mage sounds like a mario ass sonic cd track
>>527736789Then called her "mommy"
Noelle is literally me but a woman. I want to self insert as Noelle, not Kris.
>>527736625Okay. Fully complete. Hopefully I haven't forgotten another integral body part
>>527736825But I Told (YOU).
Make What You Want With That
>>527736821HUGS!!!!
PETS!!!
SMOOCHIES!!!
COMFORT FLUFFY BOY!!!
>>527736686>>527736704Sorry I meant to say why would he think Kris and Dess were a thing, because anon was implying that was about Dess.
>>527736931>Noelle after the Weird Route is completely done
This Means Something
And Berdly Is The Piece That Keeps Everything Together
No Berdly, No Way To Complete It
>>527736729I think you're just overthinking it man
It's just two things
>Kris flirting with people is wildly out of character from the Kris that Noelle knows so she goes "What the fuck!?">Noelle's trying to woo Susie here and she's talking about Kris flirting with people so of course her brain goes into red alert mode
>>527736296>pacifistfags when they cant ACT their way out of being genocided
>>527731757>spiderbreath = krisdess
>>527736931what is this analog horror doe??? its great I love it
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>>527736856Kris is the only one in the fun gang who can flirt for shit
>Susie in Chapter 5 Weird Route
>"Hey, what's this newspaper clipping?"
>Laughs
>"Look, Kris! It's about that guy Wing Gaster, owner of Royal Scien-AGHHHHH"
>Susie falls in a basement chute
>>527730518do not do that you moron your tulpa will become a screaming abomination with bpd and like 10 other mental disorders
>Weird route Chapter 5
>Berdly isnโt at festival because heโs still in his coma and people are getting worried
>Asgore: I know a great doctor from out of town who helped me a long time ago, Iโll ask if he can help
>Itโs Gaster
How would you react?
>>527737043It's a similar thing for Coldify/Warmify and the Swatchlings.
Kris is a very eloquent person, he just doesn't want/need speak much.
My birthday is 12/26/1988 I have 4 middle names Sophia Noelle Mary Carol and I just got into Deltarune these past two weeks, did Snowgrave today and I'm honestly really fucked up right now
I finally made it to the Knight's last attack but I died... It hurts
>>527736978Kris and Dess have identical tastes and messed around a lot. Kris clearly liked to provoke Dess by pranking Noelle and those wiffle bat hits were very affectionate.
>>527737164>Mayor Holiday's real
>>527737069What if the festival comes around and Gaster was just a regular guy from the next town over sipping on some cheap beer?
>>527736931The Rake (Noelle)
Okay sorry if the question sounds retarded, but what in the actual hell are Tulpas?
>>527737126
>>527736901Bet he likes kissing birds
He's A BirdKisser
Eat my FUCKING testicles and gargle upon the fruit of the Garden of Bitchland you cocksucking, motherfucking, brotherfucking, sisterfucking, fatherfucking, oval shaped family-tree having, chlorine filled gene pool having, crayon snorting, shit sniffing, Chernobyl disaster victim looking, blood test failing, condom piercing, teenage mutant ninja fuckhead piece of fucking SHIT.
I can't believe this is a thing that was even considered in the first place, let alone the ONLY thing from Board 3 that managed to go through to the final game at all. It's clearly fucking unfinished. Susie moves with all the grace of a grandma flying down the stairs, trying to hit anything consistently works as well as trying to win the lottery with fortune cookie numbers, and the music is awfully excruciating. This is an absolute fucking shitfest that wasn't ready for release, let alone reworked to be fun in the first place.
>b-but it's OPTIONAL!
Here's an option for you, suck my teeth out of my ass. You fucking know the game stores the fucking ranks. I'd have more fun slinging turds at the wall. If it was clearly unfinished, rewards nothing, isn't fun, has non-canon dialogue that makes no sense, has reused shit music, and isn't good at all, then why the FUCK was it pushed through? Why is it now MY problem? Fuck this minigame.
>>527737258Imaginary friends but you force your brain to schizophrenia your braininto feeling like they exist.
>>527737258Artificial imaginary friends/ split personalities
>>527737164What the fuck is wrong with your name?
>>527737258demons people make out of sheer loneliness
At this point my brain thinks of Tenna as "schlubby BDP uncle" so hard that I can't even imagine having a boss fight against him
>>527737345you're really cute when you're angry
Who will be the Sans of Snowgrave that punishes us for wanting to see what happens?
>>527737345Id be alright with it if it was just decorative like most of the minigame prizes in chrono trigger, but no Toby put actual content behind this shit
>>527737357The 80s were trying times.
>>527737241True
>>527737345It is fun though
So this was totally a 2hu joke, right?
>>527737345>motherfucking, brotherfucking, sisterfucking, fatherfuckinghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ujv3LYVfj8o
>>527737438Kris is the only one in a position to know like sans.
>>527737438Berdly Has Undyne Vibes
But Dunno Who Will Be The Sans
Maybe Seam Or Something
He's Also A Vendor Who Knows More That He Lets Out
>>527737528I'm afraid of physical contact
>>527736025Too busy aura farming
>>527737539Yes, absolutely.
>>527737347>>527737356>>527737395Okay I guess that will never work to me not creative enough to force my brain to do that might as well accept the tip and just buy some Noelle merch or something
>>527737448"actual" """"content""""
>inb4 mantleyou can grind points ez
>>527737438Susie and Ralsei turn against Kris.
>>527737539yes
it's also one of the most memorable screens in the game i think, that song hitting for the first time reignited some shit in my soul
>>527737448What content is guarded behind the susiezilla minigame?
>>527737438My schizo theory is that Weird Route is going towards us making Kris revert back to the fun-craving child they were before the Dess shit happened
The end boss isn't against a guy who hates you for making him have to fight in the first place but against something that's having as much fun with it as you are
>>527736931This is insanely well drawn, thank you for sharing it.
Why cant Kris just put in codes to skip to the end of chapter 3 on repeat playthroughs? For a metagame this game has very few opportunities where you can use knowledge from previous runs.
So how much money did you guys end up throwing in the fountain? I kinda want to replay Chapter 4 for the Muffet armor.
>>527737771Because Kris is working for the Knight and won't let you
The same reason you can't tell Susie that the code is obviously 1225
The knife Kris carries around The Real Knife (a knife which is real) and we are unable to access it due to the fact that it is a part of Kris' inventory and not ours, and he has actively refused to use it due to revealing it would give us knowledge of its existence enough to use it - The Real Knife will be used to create the twisted sword, capable of killing Darkners
>>527728470This will be the Weird Route final boss?
>>527737746Is that what you meant?
>>527737648T rank room is very important
>>527737539What in specific is the joke referencing? I only know a few 2hus
my credit card got blocked by buying smash dlcs
>>527737438Dess, who's been gaslighting Asriel into committing firegrave or ashgrave or something.
>>52773781610000, didn't even know there was gonna be a reward, I just wanted the number.
Dark Dollars are free anyway, I stockpiled like 50,000 which should be good enough for forever.
>>527737854>Is that what you meant?Yes
>>527737905Ur bank is retarded
>>527737935Can't wait to fight Cocomelon Kris at the end of the weird route.
>>527736978He doesn't think Kris and Dess (or Noelle) are a thing. He's asking if they're still friends like when they were kids. That's why he follows it up with "everything changes."
>>527737917Damn, and I thought I had a lot at 28k
>>527737852Nice headcanon retard theres no proof
>>527738021What's the proof he was talking about Dess though?
>>527737438It's Rouxls Kaard. He appears to be a joke but I think the reality is that he knows too much secretly. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the big secret boss of chapter 7 and he gets incredibly strong by accidentally getting all the Shadow crystals we gave to Seam. Then He Does Something Even Though He Doesn't Know He Did Something.
>>527738141undyne the undying is a secret boss. you get to her by doing the secret genocide route you have to go out of your way to do
>>527738141I'm going all in on the copium, we'll refight the Knight and Blacker Knife will play, mixing in Lost Girl and the freedom motif.
>>527738141Black Knife has a TWR quote at 0:55
>>527738275black knife already has both.
>>527738015What is Cocomelon?
>>527712448>meant to post this earlier but i kept getting connection errors and forgot about itthat 'top' part is supposed to be the pelvis.
between the pelvis and the femur is a gap, which causes a 'dip' to form in the hips. which is why they look like that.
funnily enough, that's probably the most anatomically accurate part of this image.
>>527738141I'm pretty sure Hammer of Justice doesn't have the genocide boss riff which would make it specifically tied to the Weird and Sword routes in Deltarune
>>527730604SOUL likes moss, can't play the piano, played Undertale, etc. There are definitely some traits to the SOUL: it must have those to be an active participant in non-AI written game. All those CYOA protagonists are also just supposed to be (You), and yet each have a different personality.
>>527738141Why do mikes designs look so bad compared to everything else? When I first saw that cat posted around I thought it was an AU or something
>>527737858https://youtu.be/KJXUt9H9OZM
https://youtu.be/AUqeQxEQYYU
Watch, like, the first 20 seconds of either and you'll get it
>>527737852Ture that kris carries a knife we cannot use but everything else is bullshit
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>>527737345Meh, I was kinda overreacting. It's not THAT bad. Sincerest apologies, honestly.
I still can't wait at what events was Neo Spamton saying that would make us regret Snowgrave, so far I got no regrets
YOU THINK MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick]
IS GONNA LET YOU DRINK UP THAT [Sweet, Sweet] [Freedom Sauce]?
WELL, YOU'RE [$!$!] RIGHT! BUT DON'T BLAME ME
WHEN YOU'RE [Crying] IN A [Broken Home] WISHING YOU LET YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON [Kill You]
(like those lines were so fucking cryptic it can't be chapter 4 he must mean something even worse than that)
>>527737852If you want to kill Darkners just have your trash incinerated.
>>527738410>SOUL likes mossYou can choose not to eat the moss
>can't play the pianoYou just don't have the fine control required for that, when you do get a chance to play the piano it uses the same controls as Undertale
>>527737852The Knife turns into Ralsei in the Dark World. Think about how he one shot statue Gerson from behind.
>>527730757>>527731261i'm not even offput or dissapointed, i am genuinely impressed that someone could fuck up fapping like this.
i like to crank it while lying down on my side in bed
>>527738141Who the fuck are those guys at the bottom I've never seen them??
>>527738356animated show for babies on youtube with billions of views. not known for its high quality
>>527738389I would do some fucked up shit to bury my face betwixt those thighs, oh man.
What if Susie said KNIFE TUAH when Kris pulled out their knife at the church
>>527738519well, a broken home could happen in the Holidays in Chapter 5, Rudy's a bit fucked after all that time in the church.
>>527738653True there's that as well
>>527731261I can picture his expressions changing with every line...
>>527738114Noelle never mentions playing with Kris in her blogposts. Shes unsure if theyre really friends and Kris would play the piano only when she wasnt in the room.
>>527735901Saving Ramb and all the other schizos is my endgame
>>527738571This is the most hilarious twist possible
Kris is hauling a big fucking knife around and thus far has only used it to eat pie and open Fountains
The Dark World representation of that knife is the extremely powerful yet impossibly benevolent and gentle Ralsei
Bravo Tobert
>>527738410The only thing we know is that it can't play the piano as well as Kris but everything else is up to us.
>>527738708also also, Noelle's couch is SUSPICIOUSLY LONG, and those heart shaped pillows seem to be hinting at another Soul segment in a future chapter.
the couch could be a 'sleeping spot' that Kris wakes up on in a future chapter, the spot you can use to skip events on replays, and if you're continuing Snowgrave, the state Noelle's gonna be in by the time that happens, it's not hard to imagine Kris is gonna be crying...on the inside at the very least.
>>527738438>>527738613Those are the fake mikes. They are chapter 3 npcs wearing mike costumes they made. They are explicitely joke characters you can access in chapter 4.
>>527738740And when people ship Kris with ralsei it's him fucking his own knife if he ever goes to the light world.............damn..........that's so fucked up GENIUS
>>527738740His scarf if a scrap of cloth that Kris wraps it in while keeping it in their pocket to not stab themselves.
>>527738519I am innocent, innocent
I just wanted to play a game, game
>>527738141Never met those 3
Susie and Kris' 24 hour fuck-to-dehydration sessions
Gerson taking the picture of them
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wouldn't eat it on its own but it does look like some fancy burger ingredient
>>527736162How the fuck does that even work
If he's a plug then would there just be a hole in the wall?
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>>527738519>so far I got no regretsBecause Spamton was talking about Kris, not you. The "Broken Home" comment makes that obvious, and Kris definitely wants to die by the end of Chapter 4's weird route.
>>527738927and in this image it kind of looks like a butt haha
>>527738906Your innocence died the moment you killed Berdly welcome the doe side
>>527738958He's a power strip Kris took from the library.
>>527738839why is her cooch so long? is she some kind of slut?
>>527738927Most moss is inedible for humans, either being actually toxic or just causing gastrointestinal issues.
I genuinely Iike how every single community has agreed that Sans Deltarune needs to get the fuck away from Toriel
>>527738976>his oldest friend>his best friend>broken beyond fixing>maybe he should just give up>let it happen>whatever she is now>she's still his best friend>he still trusts her>and he deserves the punishment for letting this happen to her
>>527739050WAIT, SO KRIS isn't a human all along? Maybe that was the Deltarune all along
>>527738519Aside from what the other anon described about Kris, is it really difficult to imagine a negative outcome for the Weird Route? You're mindbreaking a teenage girl and already forced her to nearly kill her own classmate. Surely you don't think you're meant to be the good guy here, right?
>>527739041yes
noelle is a massive slut
noelle takes huge bbc dicks every weekend
she has tyrone on speed dial
she has been railed by almost every male in hometown and every other town within driving distance
she has gotten dicked down by asgore on that couch multiple times
Out of all of the items in the Deltarune world why does Kris's cell phone and ONLY their cell phone become a scary thing that screams at you instead of a quirky little character
>>527739018I think he's specifically this thing.
>>527739050you know what can eat moss though, right?
Reindeer.
What if Susie gets pissed off she's seen as just a replacement Dess by Kris/Noelle
>>527739214Yeah if I was a kid I would put that in my mouth.
>>527738519He is tlaking about player agency and its consequences. Being a Big Shot means to be the one in control, and reaching [Heaven] is attaining the true freedom that comes with agency.
>>527739203That Cell Phone is a direct line to God, show some fucking respect.
>>527739154No, he's human, dark word things just aren't real so you can eat whatever with zero consequences.
>>527738571My problem with this is just... why? Would would he be a knife, what about his design reflects that? He seems so obviously the horn headband to me, Kris's vision of themselves when they used to wear it, the desire to feel like they looked like their family. It's why his horns are pink.
>>527739219If it makes her feel any better (you) don't see her as a replacement dess.
Susie vs Dess
>Susie: "RAPE IS BAD AND WRONG!"
>Dess: "Rape... IS GOOD AND RIGHT!"
>>527739214I'm not a kid and I also would consider putting it in my mouth if it's as pliable as it looks
>>527738519"Broken Home" refers to Hometown getting massacred to stop the Roaring, as foreshadowed in sword route. In the normal route, Castle Town is sealed away instead.
>>527739018I think he's an extension cord, actually, something that would have a plug and a socket (his hair is bent prongs), and the schizobosses carry a theme of being various forms of 'Messenger'
a Jester, a Postman, an Extension Cord, though in this case the 'message' is electricity, passing from it's source to it's destination.
taken from the library because it was broken, but it's defect gave it character, he was no good for his original purpose anymore, so he was just a toy instead, that'd be why Kris was his favorite, he would have been thrown away otherwise.
Asgore is a florist. He's going to be tending to his garden and stab the ground with a pitchfork which will look exactly like this scene and it's going to create a dark world.
Secret boss of chapter 5 will be Carol, who Ralsei will fight solo. He will have to fully embrace his flaming homosexuality to defeat her, it will be as much if not even more of a character defining moment than Gerson was for Susie.
>>527739219Susie's probably going to be too busy getting pissed off about Kris and Ralsei both using her and keeping things from her to even consider that
>>527738726What are you talking about they played all the time. They grew apart. In the same blog post your referencing she started off by saying Kris used to come over practically every day to play.
>>527739341They actually are pretty soft rubber, same stuff that's around actual power cables.
>>527739340>Soul watching in the background
>>527739197This is why Kris doesnt like looking at other humans
>>527739005I didnt kill berdly
SHE DID
NOT ME
>>527739203The Phone is Gaster
>>527739164Yeah, I'm not the good guy but honestly I kinda wish I can just torment everyone and get my good ending by brute forcing and beating everyone up TRUE FREEDOM
>>527739397It would be a funny gag if he stabbed it into the ground with the red eye glint and everything and it freaked Susie out but nothing actually happened
>>527739104>Would would he be a knife, what about his design reflects that? Pointed hat, sharp fur corners. I admit it is a stretch, but think of how much of Ralsei's form is deliberately obscured from us. Its only when we become closer with Ralsei does his form shift into something more comforting. I am not fully convinced the white goat Ralsei is his true form.
>>527739203(You) got gaster on speed dial bro
>>527739535Sometime I think they could be a combination of items. They are definitely something that belongs to Kris.
Which makes you wonder, are they even truly the prince of the dark? What makes them so special if they're just an object that belongs to Kris?
>>527739320Kris melted the headband into a knife. He watched a youtube video on that kind of stuff.
>>527739504Fella, that's the same argument on this image.
>>527738709cute and rare ship
Asgore VS. Dess showdown in Chapter 5
The soul being Dess doesn't feel like a Toby plot idea. I don't think the soul will be anything but the player character and will likely not have any explanation ever.
I think Toby cares more about the player and I just cannot see him making the soul actually be another named character like Dess
>>527737345Bro, how did you even have that much trouble? I got S rank on both boards on my first run through chapter 3.
I don't think that Ralsei can be anything on Kris's person since Ralsei does plenty of stuff in the Castle Town between chapters
The end of chapter 4 when you're walking around after the rain at night really nails the liminality of your first time actually being out in the middle of the night.
That unshakable feeling that you're somewhere you shouldn't be, streets that you're used to walking during the day being completely abandoned.
>>527739804yeah something that was already in the school closet
>>527739768Need BergunTrck darkner
>>527739784I don't think the idea would even work why the fuck there are so many romantic subtexts on the weird route was Dess into incest or something if it's her soul and not the player
>>527739535The theory I prefer is that Ralsei's just Kris' sweater, a hand-me-down from Asriel. It'd explain why he bears a resemblance to Asriel too, since Chapter 4 makes a point that you can pattern a darkener after a memory of a person.
>>527739786Not the board. Susiezilla. The scrapped physical challenge from Board 3.
>>527739937He never said no
>>527739386Even Gerson is a messenger of sorts.
He's an author, and his book is an adaptation of the prophecy.
>>527739784>Gaster reaching out and connecting with Dess across the Dark at the start of the gameI mean I could see the argument for it. But I dont personally believe it.
>>527739937i. would never.
>>527739669I am fully responsible, and it is fully righteous
>>527739462I wonder if Ramb's goatee/cleft chin is meant to be worn out rubber chipping
>>527739784The soul IS gaster
>>527739906That would be really funny.
I like the idea more that Kris gave Dess some of their human soul so they could survive something traumatic, which turned them into a monster if there's still Undertale rules happening.
Now the same thing will happen to Noelle in the weird route.
>>527739937Nigga I didn't play the weird route don't lump me in with that
>>527739834I thought that was cozy as hell but you do you
>>527739968Oh wait, I'm a retard. Well that's more understandable.
For context there kept being monsters inside the elevator for like 10 minutes then when there was finally enough room for them Noelle didn't know what to do after Carol told her to open the elevator because she was holding the dog that Carol asked her to hold
Gaster? More like Gasser.
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAPPH
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(I never played undertale)
Iโm really glad that spamtenna is a relatively popular ship, I didnโt want Spamton to be forgotten when the new chapters were coming out, so Iโm glad we at least have a little bit of content to work off of to keep him relevant lmao.
Ralsei's thing is that he has only existed for a little while for the purpose of the prophecy and for the purpose of the prophecy only, which is why he has such big issues about having a personality, hobbies or relationships
Considering how Darkners all have histories and personalities tied to the objects that they were I think Ralsei must have been custom-built to fit the Prince from the Dark role and isn't some normal everyday item from Kris's history, especially since we know a lot of the chapter 1-3 Darkners are just that
>>527739784>I don't think the soul will be anything but the player characterI agree.
>will likely not have any explanation ever.No, that's retarded. There's already a lot of things building towards an explanation for how and why the SOUL/player ended up in control of Kris.
>>527739937Kris could have begged. Kris could have pleaded. But the refused. That's what they get for hiding all his thoughts from us.
>>527740208Why did Noelle do that? Is she acoustic?
>>527740312Misunderstanding. I mean who the soul is. We'll get an explanation for how it got there but not a who
>>527739937Excuse you, I haven't played the weird route because I want to rape Kris with my vessel instead of doing rape by proxy with that skanky doe.
Dess is not the Knight
The Knight is not Dess
There may or may not be more than one Knight
There are several possibilities for who the Knight may be
But the Knight is not Dess
Even Asgore is more likely to be the Knight than Dess
Tornado on her face. Noelle sleeps
Prick a thorn on he finger. Noelle crashout
>>527740287You forget
>overwriting Kris's save file in the beginning>looking like Asriel/Kris's family for no apparent reason.>that Ralsei tries to get you to close your eyes so he can talk to Kris privatelyRalsei is a plant. He might only know the prophesy because he was told it, by Kris and whomever Kris is working with. Whatever Kris is doing Ralsei is part of it.
>>527739937So has literally everyone else in hometown, why is it such a big deal if (you) get on the molesting Kris bandwagon?
Fact: The Knight uses Dess theming to make the player think it's Dess and feel bad for it
>>527740229I want Spamton and Tenna to have a chance to actually talk and resolve whatever bullshit happened with the phone call as we find out what happened in the next chapters...
>>527740545i barely know 'er
This confirms in my head that Spamton and Tenna are sort of like counterparts to eachother. I always thought that since I first played through chapter 3, and I never really saw tenna as a cheap knock off. Iโm really glad people warmed up to him after the first few days of the new chapters release.
>>527740312It's not like you ever completely understand in Undertale. There are a lot of theories, like Frisk being a reincarnation of Chara thus Chara's past life/"ghost" possesses them, but they're all just a guess at the end of the day. Whatever the origin of the SOUL is meant to be, it is a stand-in for us.
Kris's mind:
>don't rape Noelle
>(You): "Rape her haha"
>Dess: "Rape her just like I raped you."
The knight is the real Mike
>>527740530>Ralsei is a plantThen I'm a vegetarian baby
>>527740545>dess is a red herring
>>527740753What About Rudy???/
>>527740530>for no apparent reason.The heroes that appeared are Kris and Susie, whose "most important person" are Asriel and Toriel, and Ralsei is constantly compared to these two people specifically
My theory is that if the seemingly intended second hero of the prophecy Noelle was in the mix instead, then Ralsei would have looked like and been named after Dess
Ralsei talking to Kris privately and just allowing their plot with the Knight to happen are fishy as hell but I don't think he would completely fake his entire personality and dilemma to Susie at least
>>527739937I just wanna help my lil bro get some puss puss yo
>>527740294I'll do it again.
I'll violate this twink as many times as I please.
I'll puppet their body from burrowing deep inside as much as I want.
Did "Me" showing up just validate all the first person code variables as an actual relevant character?
You know, the "myroom" bullshit
>>527740443>>527740545It can't not be Dess. It's one of the Holidays, that it has an abstract/inhuman form is something we've never seen a regular Lightner do, Carol is implied to have ice powers like Noelle so it wouldn't be her, and unless Rudy is pretending to be sick I doubt it's him.
>>527740720Delicious Ralsei toe bean curd...
>>527740939mmyes...eat two cakes each for me spamton and tenna...hahaha...
>>527740686Undertale handwaves it away as an anomaly, but Deltarune has the mysterious voice speaking directly to the player and an increasingly strong suggestion that the SOUL itself is plot-critical. So it might not be completely explained, but it will probably be more explained than it was in Undertale.
>>527741001>Carol is implied to have ice powers like Noelle so it wouldn't be herNigger I swear to fuck you are NOT saying that because of the one comment about the room being cold when she comes in, are you?
>>527741001thats why it has to be rudy! toby loves red herrings. thats why rudys sickness is unknown because hes faking it
dess is a red herring. in chapter 6 we will get to fight 3 alternate desses who are all fake and were just darkners trying to make noelle feel better
>>527740704I would shit my pants.
>>527741107I don't think Rudy is faking it but I do think he's more likely than Dess to be the Knight
>>527741164fair enough, how would you expect the dess plotline to be concluded then? is she just the goal all this stuff is being done for?
>>527741152I misread this as
>I should shit my pants.
Rudy is kinda sus, we can't access the hospital when it's not raining but he's not the knight.
>>527741076NTA but they also comment on how cold her touch is, and considering ice magic is a major thing in this story I doubt Tubi would repeatedly mention how cold Carol just for flavor text
Rudy hasn't said, done or thought anything suspicious in the Light World so for him to be the Knight would feel like a pretty big swerve
>>527740982Inasmuch as (You) are a character, yes
>"kris... i told you..."
>the knight slowly removes his helmet
>"i would KICK your ass"
>blackest knife starts playing
Is Gaster an allegory for Jesus Christ?
>>527740886I don't think he's faking, he's as much of a victim as Susie is in a way. Depending on how we act, Ralsei may genuinely consider the soul possessing Kris a friend. But notice how Ralsei doesn't feel the need to comfort Kris about the prophecy/isn't as concerned about their reaction as much as Susie.
I couldn't tell you what they're up to, though. I think it has something to do with Noelle and Susie, considering they are the only ones in the prophecy not part of whatever conspiracy is happening.
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>>527741446he's not a carpenter afaik
I wish Noelle would cut us out of kris like an aztec priest before swallowing us
>>527741464>they are the only ones in the prophecy not part of whatever conspiracy is happeningYou forgot about the SOUL.
>>527741483This one can still go on for a couple of hours can't it
>>527741446No but Kris's soul is an allegory for the descent of the Holy Spirit
>>527741568We are part of it, just not in a way where we can tell what's going on.
>>527741245There's not really enough to say. Something bad happened to Dess. Maybe it's tied to the Dark World, maybe someone wants to use it as an avenue to save her, maybe she's evil herself and the one making the Prophecy for all I know. Most other stuff about the endgame here is deep into speculation territory.
Rudy is more likely than Dess to be the Knight but my personal schizo pick is Asriel. He has an intimate connection with her and his Dark World self sharing aspects of her like the bat would line up with that, but its attacks and showoffy mannerisms are reminiscent of how his tastes were in UT, not to mention the Knight's last attack basically being Hyper Goner. It would also explain Kris' loyalty to it. There's even a line in Chapter 3 about Asriel getting embarrassed about playing the dinosaur and switching his main to the female Sword Magician.
>>527741565>cut to spamton getting cumflated with tennaโs seed
>>527741526put you in her Kali-Maw, freak?
>>527741446he wing dinged for our sins...
>>527741446He seems more like a Devil allegory, given the 6 motif and how he seemingly gave forbidden knowledge to at least Jevil and Spamton.
>Susie loves the heart-shaped donut
>Kris hates it
Chapter 1 already foreshadowed the inevitable SOUL and Susie vs. Kris battle.
>>527741734I guess that would also tie into how hard Kris tries to keep you away from Asriel
At the same time even if Asriel Deltarune is as giga-chuuni as Asriel Undertale the "knighting" bit and the "You promised" thing makes their relationship seem way more master-slave-like than seems right for Asriel and Kris to have
>>527741734that sword magician one is a good point. still doesnt explain the horns?
I'm sure the motifs the bat the horns it protecting her house from wet nose bandits the alliance with kris dess' status as missing and its effect on both families kris and dess' friendship kris' interest in knives, magic and the occult gerson proving the dead can be darkniggers toriel being distressed by kris beating the knight's ass but not by him jobbing all red herrings and the knight is actually burgerpants because tobyfox is a goddamn genious that is always 20 steps ahead of the entire fandom
>>527742016masterpeece game of the year 2020
>>527741853Toby could just be gnostic
>>527741734But then that would imply something happened to Asriel to make them all fucked up like that and no one's concerned about Asriel having gone off to college. Kris also looked up when college vacations were because they missed them. So doesn't really line up...
Gaster fags on suicide watch
Your fanfic character will never be relevant
>>527742016>the knight is actually burgerpantsI can finally jerk off to Knight porn
>>527742159how are we on suicide watch if literally everything in the game points to his existence, even all the way back to undertale
>>527742159Who the hell else is talking to us then
>>527742207>literally everythingdelusional
>>527730656Use LLM+TTS+celshaded CGI model. Buy HoloLens/Magic Leap AR glasses if you want him in the real world.
Use life-size plushie for hugs.
>mike? red herring.
>dess? red herring.
>gaster? red herring.
Prease understundu small japanese indie developer. No story happy endings in real life. Stupid. Fever dream was of massive middle finger I put up your assu.
Suselle matters youre a bad person for playing videogames.
The voice who is awaiting for its DELTARUNE and has Gaster's theme is actually Quirkenstein the Quirky Twerker and it was actually talking about the cookies it had in the oven which it calls DELTARUNE
https://youtu.be/RHF-aG4ePNgkRkI0gvtFknERhWX
>>527742243Papyrus, that's why he's too busy to hang out with Kris
>Tenna's game is based on Asriel's unfinished game
>you get a Shadow Mantle from the original game that protects against the Knight's attacks
>You find Asriel's jacket in Dess's closet so we know she had an affinity for his clothing
I'm cooking...
>>527731393Kitchen is soundproofed
>>527742374Finally a reasonable theory.
>>527742413I thought it was based on dragon blazers
>>527742413>Noelle says that the Shadow Mantle is for "someone taller"You're definitely cooking but why did Seam have the Shadow Mantle until someone took it
>>527742391I'm enjoying all the Family Feud Tenna animations people are making.
>>527730668Each route tells a story. "Haha it's just player doing nonsensical things" is not a story.
Goodnight utg get 8 hours of sleep
>>527742570Seam is also referenced by flavor text on Asriel's computer
>>527742570Perhaps Dess was wearing one of Asriel's jackets when she became lost in the Dark. You do fight ERAM in the shelter, after all.
>>527742523Honestly I thought Asriel's game was implied to be a romhack of Dragon Blazers, given Toby's whole history with romhacks and how the game is basically a bootleg Zelda 1.
>>527741795ough...fat cumflated spamton...
>>527742391>santa appearing in the crowdHOLIDAY SANTA DARKNER?!
>>527742663I only need 6 a day, casual.
>>527742663I hate Alphys.
>>527742617But your actions aren't nonsensical, you do stuff for a reason, just like any character in-universe.
The ending will be about toby making fun of you for waiting 10 years for a pixelshit game
>>527742663My alarm is set to three hours from now.
If Dess's jacket is the Shadow Mantle would that make Asriel's shirt in Dess's closet the Sky Mantle
>>527742851>he thinks Nintendo would let Toby take years and years without a clear outline of what all the episodes would entailYou are jaded. Trust in Toby's fever dream vision.
>>527742851>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctr9ZfeyvXg
>>527730997For Ralsei it would be basically death
The real heroes of the Prophecy...
>>52774278Ambouttabuss
>>527742584There is a constant [[DARK FOUNTAIN]] of them, I love it
>>527742663I actually got a full 8 hours of sleep last night after having shit sleep all week because I messed up my shoulder and it was heavenly
>>527742920>yet more evidence that the chapter 5 dark world will be the Holiday houseI'm all in
Toby will delay Chapter 5 but Nintendo will be like NO and send Monolithsoft to make Chapter 5 happen and they are so efficient you'll get chapter 6 at the same time. Then Toby having worked with Monolithsoft soft so closely will get to put a song in the next Xenoblade game and it will be peak
>>527731205Queen was Dess' laptop. Noelle likely inherited it after Dess' disappearance. It's in here because Holidays donated their old junk to the library.
>>527730997Why did Gaster fuse with all of the main characters' dads and put them in BDSM gear
>>527742738Ambouttabuss
>>527742584There is a constant [[DARK FOUNTAIN]] of them, I love it
>>527743119Xenoblade SUCKS
>>527742663No. You can't make me.
>>527742920can't say for sure it's going to be anything related to Asriel, as I have my own theories about the nature of the 'Holy' element in Deltarune and Undertale, given how the Angel seems to be hinted at being us, a person from the real world in both games.
I believe the Holy Element is featured in the Omega Flowey boss battle, and it involves the use of photorealistic assets for the attacks
>>527743172It was
>VERY, VERY, INTERESTING.that's why
>>527743119Does that mean that Papyrus will be in Project X Zone 3
>>527743204https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g66l9Pc-JMw
>Ralsei became a pile of fluff.
>The Teddy Bear became a pile of fluff... (Earthbound)
Ralsei's light world equivalent is a Ralsei plushie
>>527743408but is it worth more or less than $8?
>>527743408damn kris shoved all that up his ass!?
I think the baker's served us a poisoned loaf.
Where is the Ramb fandom?
Where is the Ramb fandom?
Where is the Ramb fandom?
>>527731183I'm glad that it wasn't there. If he tried to animate all weapon and all armor pieces like in Terraria, Chapter 1 would be still in development.
That said, I wish we could at least "inspect" objects to see what they look like. I know some items have sprites.
>>527735806ffs, queen literally makes a fucking monologue speech for whole party how dark world was made and how she is going to make more in ch2, when doing weird route and before queen battle gets skipped and you get to fight spamton neo instead. Then in ch4 its entirely natural for Susie to make dark world and dialog literally goes along lines of "what did queen mean back then", did you even play the game or just watched some shitty playthroughs?
>>527743119Does that mean Chapters 5 and 6 will be open-world and have a harem ending?
>>527742920>Dess is the knight>Asriel is the angel