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Pre-War thread:
>>527109309
Nova Arizona was already pissing me off with all of the quests breaking and some of the descions they were making. Then there was the quest where there is another Legate who is bad at their job and is breaking laws Nova Arizona established the Legion has, and you can bring this all to Ceaser and he goes "yeah I'm evil and incompetent lol, and you shouldn’t be siding with me because I am bad man who does bad things"
>>527764995 (OP)I would fuck Christine HARD. Just look at her tits in that tank top ingame. FUUUUCK. That's it. I'm installing SexOut.
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>>527765680Why are you even playing the quests when they're not even close to finished? Like they've made it quite clear they're not even done the environment let alone quests.
>>527767237I don't see how the concept of Ceaser being a hypocrite for an incompetent retard could ever be refined into something worth playing.
>>527764995 (OP)I let Dean live. I just think him being a petty bitch even after the world has gone to complete shit and he's been stuck in the Sierra Madre for 200 years is very funny
>>527767930Well Caesar is not incompetent nor a hypocrite in the actual games, so that's what they could fix.
>>527776452>Just scrap the whole questYeah that is the advice I would give too, but they aren't going to do that probably and it gives an insight into the writers mind that they did this in the first place. I would bet they are writing Ceaser and the Legion like this as modern political commentary which is a form of mental illness that can't be fixed.
Every named dog (except the other Lady Gibson dogs) in the game should have a brain you can give to Rex with an ending and perk, most of them should be unmarked.
>>527785502Easily it's really lame.
Any time Fallout New Vegas takes your weapons it should force Rex and Ed-e to wait.
IDK if that one anon is still around but the pavilion kit is in the shop
Fun Fact:
If your weapons has some form of non-elemental inate additional damage based off the "normal" damage then Bully will add it's damage bonus of 20% (multiplicative) for that damage no matter what giving it a free stack.
>>527791931>It just works>...until it gets patched
>>527786457>it should force Rex and Ed-e to wait.[Animal Friend] But sir, they're my emotional support animals, they help me when I'm gambling...
>>527762354>What are they going to drill up through the Lucky 38, just shoot them, Mr. House has a Securitron force way bigger than we see in game. The games are supposed to be super scaled down (unless you are the show in which case New Vegas is smaller than it is in the game)I understand, but it's still a risk.
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Why the FUCK don't the companions have a reaction to the player knocking somebody out to feed them to a bunch of cannibals?
>>527794564>ObsidianWhy do you think
>>527799020mogs SHIThesda though
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>>527799020Ah yes because Fallout 3, 4 and 76 have no moments that are made retarded by having followers
>...b-but they fixed it in a paid DLC
>>527794564blanket answer
not enough time to flesh it out before game released
Sawyer would have loved his OC donutsteel spout some sarcastic one liner
>>527799560>fixedno they made it worse
>>527799560You can't fix 3, it's fubar
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No more Dog train the BoS dies today
Hi dudes, I've been binging Rogue Trader a lot recently and found one of my favourite strategies was to charge rush enemies, drop a Thunder hammer on them and forcibly push them several cells away and into walls and objects for dank damage.
Is there any mod for fallout 4 and/or NV that implements similar Push into object damage mechanics?
Would be sweet to ragdoll enemies into bloody mess gibs like that.
>>527806119Already feature in both games.
>>527765017You mean California?
>>527805857>sending a bunch of katana wielding autists in football armor with skirts to fight the power-armored tech hoarding autists with energy weaponsthis will end well
>>527809469Legion steel, folded a thousand times, they will make it.
>>527809469Considering that BoS in made entirely of cowards that actively prefer running away from any melee attacker just to back themselves into a corner rather than, you know, using their weapons, it realistically could end in 0 legion casualties.
>>527809648Muh glorious Arizona steel...
>>527809648Heated by ten thousands of sweaty legionnaire gay sex
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Why is this game so fucking dead already?
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>>527814787just join a new server dude...
>learn the conductors plan
>beth giga nerfed it
lol
lmao even
>>527815736Can't I build all my extractors here....
>nexus sold to PE cryptoNFT bros
download your favorite mods asap
>>527816252How is it nerfed? It still shits out infinite HP and AP
>>527820170at capped rate anon, at a capped rate.
It used to be uncapped.
>>527820170The return is so slow it hardly does anything anymore.
>>527820170You could infinitely stay in vats with the old conductors with this one its just not possible anymore
>>527819378modding is trannycoded behavior
>>527809743Is that a bug patched by YuP?
>>527820728you are niggercoded
>>527820863not sure but it wasn't when I last played.
>>527820728>>527821143>unironically using the word "coded"Idiots.
why is our assigned vertibird pilot suffering from adhd? how come every time i drop a signal flare, he manages to get distracted by the mildest shit in his way to me
why does fallout 3 on steam not have controller support? the fucking thing doesn't even let steam overlay open
>>527825651Do you realize how stupid you sound asking that?
>>527826240expecting a console port to work with a controller is stupid?
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>the placement indicator blocks placement
Thanks Tood
What is the best fallout 4 modpack?
>>527829787Fallout 76. It's a paid mod but it's worth it
>>527830184is it too late to get into? I always avoided it because it doesnt have open world PvP, whats even the point?
>>527830504It's definitely not too late to get into and if you really wanted to you could get to "max" level in about an hour or two but I wouldn't recommend it.
It does kind of have open world pvp but nobody flags for pvp besides new players so it doesnt really come up
>>527830692Bullshit.
If you have your camp in "their spot" or try to claim a workshop people 100% will start pvp
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>>527830504>is it too late to get into?It hit its all time high player count last year lol
>muh PvPkys
>>527830928I've only had somebody try to kill me at a workshop one time ever in like 8 years
>>527830692>max level in 2 hours>no pvpWhats the point? Why wouldn't I play something like Ready or Not or Halo if I wanted a coop shooter with actual decent gameplay?
>>527831024Why would you play fallout 4 when you could play halo
the presumption was that you enjoyed the fallout gameplay loop
>>527831008I literally few hours ago tried to claim powerplant workshop for some concreate and fusion cores and 4 man squad appeared in 15 minutes to blow it all up.
>>527831024because it's More Fallout 4 + mobility options that haven't been seen in a Bethesda game since Morrowind
you get to team up with a dozen randos to kill a giant mutant bat or a robot or a giant wave of feral ghouls and you get to build a pretty little dollhouse with an FO4-style settlement system and show it to everybody and see theirs in exchange
>>527831138you probably had a tranny flag as your avatar and deserved it desu
>>527830504It's a skinner box filled with Fallout 4 quests, but written worse. The right time to get into it was when it was broken so you could laugh, go the Page 1 of /vg/ pick the first gacha you see and you'll probably have a better time.
>>527831212this sounds horrible
what the fuck
Can you not ask Ceaser about what he thinks about the Followers of the Apocalypse? Did I just forget what he has to say completely?
>>527832570caesar's legion is a completely unfinished faction, you're not supposed to dig that deep
>>527832080Does it? Does it really?
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>>527827013On a game from the mid 2000s made by the most incompetent AAA western devs ever known?
>>527827013I think the better question is why would one want to play an FPS with a controller.
>>527830692Ok is this real? How do you get to max level in 2 hours in 76? If this is hyperbole again and I get mocked for being autistic I swear to God. . .
>>527836985>Ok is this real? How do you get to max level in 2 hours in 76?50 is Max equipment level, 300 max for perk cards.
if you can get a full group to carry you through some of the raids or expedtitions with exp buffs you could speed to 50 ez.
>>527836985It's hyberpole but you can buy boosting service for just under 20 dollars that will get you there in about 3-4h. They are very reliable.
https://armadaboost.com/fallout-76
You can most likely find something cheaper from ag2 or something but it's always riskier
Also if you are OK playing yourself you can usually get to lvl 100 is about a week by spamming events or if you get a sugardaddy to run you in raids in few days.
>>527836985>>527837627g2g is safe enough but they usually don't speak very fluent english so communication can be bit painful if it's needed.
>>527836985Just buy a starter bundle they come with shit load of resources and legendary mods to boot so you can skip the grind and start playing the fun game immediately
>>527838413>>527838037>>527837627Fuck you
The game has a built in option to start at level 20 with a combat rifle and leather armor
And you shouldn't even take that; your first character should be a level 2 with 10mm
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>>527838618If it wasn't for level scaling I would agree, but alas...
Anyways, anything below lvl50 is waste of time, and Bethesda agrees! Afterall they do try to sell a lvl 50 as soon as you step out of the vault for the first time (and over ten times the price third parties charge lmao)
>>527838037How do they communicate? Is there a text chat now?
>>527839281Discord.
Also there is a text chat mod and *allegedly* a in-game voice chat but I've literally never heard anyone using it.
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>>527805857Those fucking turrets, are they like bugged or? You could replace each one of them with three Paladins and the BoS wouldn't have been so bad, I only walked because the turrets fucked up and didn't turn hostile one time.
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>>527833493for nostalgia purposes, since I first played it on the 360
no skin off my back tho
>>527839083You didn't beat the game if you choose this.
>>527843228One does not "beat" gaasslop.
Wow!!! It sure is great that you spent 2 hours describing how you created this dog and then had sex with it while it was less than an hour old!
>
Princess Roxie of course! My bad courier, I was a little distracted by how GOOD for your popularity it will be after you take over the Mojave to broadcast yourself marrying a cyberdog, and declaring HER supreme leader of the Mojave.
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No! Courier, I'm sure this will all turn out great. It's just my thought that you could help secure her rule better by plugging me into the Lucky 38 sometime soon.
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>>527837627>>527838413>>527839083I admit that I had a little luck on my side but out of curiosity I rolled a new character just now, and Eviction Notice popped up as soon as I left the vault
So exactly ten minutes after character creation I'm a level 29 with an automatic plasma rifle and ~1k rounds, a patchwork set of three star T45/Raider power armor, 1400 caps and 500 scrip
>>527832570he just talks about them while explaining his backstory.
>>527839354in voice chat is real, problem is fat retards open mic and loudly eat and say stupid shit. So everyone mutes it
Damn, this thread sure could use something...
>>527855046You're a tranny. You begone.
>>527854917post gameplay
otherwise
>>527343937
>>527856751The Sims has niggers in it.
>>527765275who keeps drawing all these fucking trannies in all the Bethesda generals?!!!?
>>527837284>>527837627>>527838037Ah okay, they just meant to level 50. I knew the levels went into the hundreds so I was all, "what the fuck? no way fag." That makes sense that you can get grinded on with a group carrying your ass.
>>527838413That doesn't sound like a fun game at all. That just sounds like all the boring parts of Fallout 4.
Does Fallout haves oranges?
>>527866317Looks like some cheap-ass brand that tastes like shit.
>>527764995 (OP)Here you go, Anon
Bigger version
the game was running really smoothly it actually felt trippy. i could spam through crafting and NPC dialogue without delay. server i was on must have reset recently.
they should sort it out so the game is always like this (they wont)
>>527871574Dead money is so unfun, but man dog/god and Elijah are peak.
>>527866317>>527866769It's the Rad-X version of nuka-cola. Grape is the Rad-away version
>>527891884that reminded me of pic related
you could easily play the same game with bethesda fallout games
>>527820863Just the shitty way the AI is programmed. They prefer running to deny a melee attacker DPS instead of just shooting them.
You can fix it with an AI mod though.
>>527839083I levelled up from 1 to 50 in a couple of days of play (realistically, ~12 hours). I chose not to waste my hard earned atoms.
>>527833493I’ve been using console controllers for 90% of my life and I’m too lazy to get used to keyboard
>>527892314if I was a raider I would leave the skeletons.
>>527827013Expecting support for software tha hasn't been in support for over a decade and required GFWL is stupid. Play the TTW version instead.
>>527830504It's not an extraction shooter like hunt, so PVP is mostly pointless because 99% of the content is geared towards CoOp PVE or single play. The main kind of PVP you'll see is a Wanted player nuking your favorite Workshop or your CAMP.
God Bless America
God Bless The Enclave
these trapper dudes look funny, I guess rampant cannibalism and a maddening fog could do that to a people
>>527904287Colonel John Bragg was the saver of humanity.
How are these things so hard to detect? Nate himself said these things are in their necks and they're HUGE
this was a fun little quest, lil murder mystery on the Isle of Mysteries
>>527904690Since Fallout 3 came out everyone lives in shit shacks built in pre-war ruins. You think they have an X-ray machine, the largest nation ever shown in Fallout use fucking pre-war sports gear for armor.
>>527904690Because without an X-Ray (good luck with that, Diamond City is the most advanced civilization in the commonwealth besides the institute, have you seen their medical center??) the only reliable way to tell if someone is a synth is through an autopsy. And the reason for that is because it becomes obvious once you cut them open and start seeing all the weird bullshit inside of them.
Its why the retards at Covenant were trying to use psychology to finger them out, since there was a relatively sound theory that synths aren't fully developed mentally due to most of their identities being manufactured, but they're all paranoid schizophrenics and also retarded so they figured the best way to exploit this was with a career course test for the member berry on the player's end.
>>527908716I mean, it's pretty stupid that the most advanced society in the commonwealth is Diamond City. 126 years ago, a species that didn't exist pre-war was building trucks.
>>527794564You could have at least given Arcade a nice suit for the post restaurant....
>>527799567Was he the Sawyers self insert?
>>527832570https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Legion_Denarius
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bill_Calhoun
It's weird to me that Legion Denarius has Calhoun stamped on it, when he was against what Caesar doing and was sent back to Followers.
>>527831650I didn't play it, but it seems to have nice environments (more realistic than 3 or 4) and good enemy variety. Shame that all of that effort went into a live service game.
>>527912252I agree, but thats bethesda for you. I wish the game was set in the same timeframe as 76.
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>improved bait is now atom shop item
here we go
>>527912252The Institute is basically the main hindering force within the commonwealth, anyone with any actual smarts is either taken by them (Li) or straight up exiled/killed (Vergil). Doesn't help that the only other groups in the greater wasteland that has at least a similar level of technical know-how are either a cult of greedy techno-fetishists (The Brotherhood) or the remnants of the Political Elite that were responsible for both the great war and FEV (The Enclave). I don't even think the NCR would've been able to handle the institute, considering how corrupt and divided it was in New vegas, the Institute would've been perfectly able to manipulate it like it did every commonwealth faction pre-Nate's awakening.
>>527914319The gunners seem to be doing okay, collecting vaults and expanding their operations from one end of the Commonwealth to the other. I'd imagine they'd have turned into a regional power like the NCR if it wasn't for Nate singlehandedly reshaping the wasteland.
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I have been playing FO 76 a month and all I want is stable cobalt but no one ever nukes anything that has it. Other than trying to send a nuke myself how do I get this shit?
commie bastard… you destroyed my country. DIE!
>>527933890It was so funny the game wanted you to feel bad about that
>>527765680"bad at his job"
Anon he's raping his subordinate and Caesar doesn't give a fuck when you tell him about it because why the fuck would he? He's got a war to win.
Did you even read the dialogue?
louifang… zere is nothing to bing chilling- loot… except
>2000 caps
>20,000 caps in junk
>atomic warheads
>nuclear reactor fuel
>so much food
>a well preserved officer uniform
>a stealth suit
>>527936903Yes in fact it promoted good kidney and liver health so if you are a heavy drinker you want to drink it daily
>>527936903I drink coffee everyday and I’m more fit than the average amerishart, so yes
>>527936903Sorta, it depends on the rest of your diet, how much coffee you drink, and when you drink it
also the kind of coffee
>>527936473No he is bad at his job AND raping his subordinate. If he was good at his job and raping his subordinate I wouldn't be so outwardly dismissive.
What's your choice Landscape Overhaul? Boston Natural Surroundings really fits the vibes of fallout 4, colorful but not lush. Desperados and A Forest are insanely buggy for me with occlusion issues and constant crashes
>>527939795I was using A Forest in my VR setup because I love the woods, but yeah, it needed patches for basically all my location changes/additions
Wanted to try CRP because I love green apocalypses aesthetically but I never got around to trying it
Dunno what I'll use on my next go through
>>527907946The largest isn't the most advanced
Unironically that would be the NCR, and they have access to GPS systems and autodocs.
Though yeah I bet GPS isn't going to be a thing with Bethesda
>>527933673best line in fo4 bar none
>>527943472NCR got Hank'd
>>527939396The raping is a part of why he's bad at his job though, it's indicative of his character failings. Besides you can kill him/remove him as part of that quest anyway for being an addict and fuck up.
>>527934818trve
>be nate>just woke up after 200 years, lived pre-war>probably fell for big propaganda>also served his country>200 years would probably be like a few hours of sleep to him>chink ADMITS launching the nukes, which were the catalyst of the death of his wife and kidnapping of his infant son>game expects you to do anything else but be mad if you were in nate's place
>>527933673>>527945870God he would be a fine Enclave operative.
>>527936903brain rotted troon stop spamming your stale memes
>>527937752>>527938168>>527938459are you faggots so fucking retarded you cant tell its a faggot nigger troon racebaiting?
>>527939795id tell you but you talk like a fag.
Alright ill tell you but you are still a fag.
Imposing Commonwealth is the best one visually and performance wise.
>>527914036Where? Your pic doesn't show an atom cost
>>527947262>id tell you but you talk like a fag. >Alright ill tell you but you are still a fag.So? It's pride month, bro.
I just fucked Vance's wife in the bathroom HARD and the cuck doesn't even know it.
I love SexOut so much bros.
>>527952397i used to shoot buckets to Holly when I was playing FO3 for the first time
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Who are the canonically strongest Fallout characters outside of mary sue protagonists?
I'd say
>1: Frank Horrigan
>2: Legate Lanius
>3: The Puppet Man
>4: Joshua Graham
>5: Lou Tenant
>6: Marcus
>7: X6-88
but Arthur Maxson is probably somewhere in there too
I'm hesitant to list The Master because he's personally formidable but also immobile
>>527962574Cornflakes is probably number 2 and X6 is 3, superhuman and a half cyborg
>>527962574>Frank Horriganhe was the saver of america
i will kill all tribals to avenge frank
>>527962574>Lou TenantI wish we could have gotten some of his backstory. He's one of my favorite Super Mutant characters to this day, though I think he could be higher. I'm pretty sure he is a cyborg, plus one of the smartest Mutants out there.
>>527946971>racebaiting>coffeeis this a brown thing
>>527943472No they don't. Fallout New Vegas established the NCR doesn't know how to pour concrete, as they'd rather live in a pre-war golf house than in a fort on the front line.
>>527936903Long term it's bad for your heart and anus.
>>527968090>the NCR doesn't know how to pour concreteNigger have you even heard of Fallout 2? They are as advanced as we were in 2010 outside of anything related to space or the transistor.
>>527965104its a forced meme woke tard trannies have been spamming on here for years
This game is beautiful
with mods that is
>>527968678Bethesda bought the Fallout franchise several years ago. Fallout 2 isn't canon, Fallout 2 says the Enclave has been destroyed, but they show up in Fallout 3.
>>527970450I still think it looks beautiful in general. I don't even mind the whole green filter thing, I just think it's neat and I won't be let down by anyone that thinks otherwise.
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>>527963095cybernigga has no feats
>>527971123The Enclave's main base being destroyed doesn't mean anything. Is this literally the only slop you've ever consumed? Bad writing comes with the territory of sequels, every human on this Earth knows that. Fallout 2 isn't non-canon until we explicitly see something really contradictory like say an NPC pointing out the exact same oil tanker existing in Fallout 5 or something, smugly stating how it has always been there and nothing ever happened to it.
>>527971601No Fallout 2 has the omniscient narrator say the Enclave was destroyed following the destruction of the Enclave oil rig.
Yet there they are in 3 and the TV show.
>>527971197>green filterThat's Fallout 3 you're talking about, Fallout New Vegas had the orange filter.
>>527972737Letting her tits rest.
>>527972963lazy bitch she's had enough time already
Fallout season 2 is gonna kick ass.
Haters gonna focking shit themselves.
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>>527846345I played my new alt a bit more today.
Did a couple events, found a level 35 gatling laser, did a daily OP, made sure to have it in hand to get the four fusion cores
Burned all my scrip rolling 1 star power armor, got four pieces of Troubleshooter T-45
I was level 54 when I entered Gleaming Depths. I know I was in there for exactly one hour because someone popped lunchboxes and the team broke up when they ran out. Got a full set of Vulcan armor, a Furious Gatling Plasma, Conductor/Polished/Pounder boxes, ~100 legendary modules, ~12k caps, enough chems to probably run straight to 40k caps, 800 pounds of trash legendaries.
In an hour, with no gear transferred over, and a team of randos. Now I've got an entire endgame equipped character I'll never fucking use just to prove a point to some shithead anon who can't even remember what we were arguing about yesterday.
Fuck you.
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>>527977834At least I got a bunch of season levels to show for it since I hadn't hit 100 yet
Btw I think the new ghoul is the most powerful camp defender in the whole game because she's got the new and improved harpoon gun. Watched her instagib an attacking force of super mutants singlehandedly.
>>527972737Goddamnit let her eep for a bit.
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>>527985442codsworth would just saw your dick off
>>527985571isn't this kinda gay
>just naked hugs with my bro perfectly normal
>>527985972women are inherently gay and cringe
imagine shilling a shitty nexus slag
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yes
I deserve a vault dweller gf
Y'all need some boomer humor.
>>527972896Yeah. What, was that not Fallout 3? Yeah I know there's ED-E right there, that doesn't mean anything in 2025.
>>527992639Take your jet.
>>527944057What sort of sordid smut was in those blackmail tapes?
>>527952397What mods are you using?
Also, I have been trying to track down all of these webms. I wonder if he made one with Joana
>>527993865Ok I am all smonked up at the moment, I hope that's close enough. What next?
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Bros... Why is the hazmat suit helmet so goofy in gh*uls?
>>527993865I'm jittery now
>>527996302Because ghouls are fucking shifty and stink like shit.
>>527996302a bunch of headwear doesn't look right on ghouls, like cultist hoods.
Glad i quit
>>527968090This is bait, but fuck it I'll take it.
Aside from the walls in 2, they were mining Limestone in Quarry Junction (one of the primary materials used to make Cement), and were repairing the rails (and trains) to have a functioning rail network in the Mojave area. Also, Camp Golf isn't a frontline camp. If you want to see a fort, then look at Hoover Dam (where Oliver concentrated a good deal of the NCR troops and defenses in the region to the detriment of the overall front).
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>>527998434Since I know you're gonna mention why they didn't have post-war concrete walls, iirc we don't know far along the production was before that shit with the Powder Gangers started, halting both limestone mining and railway repair and construction.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they had already repaired pre-existing concrete structures (Camp McCarran and Hoover Dam) with the concrete they were making.
>>527998702>implying they're smart enough to make reinforced concrete
so, do i install address library with MO2 or manually into data folder?
oh mutated events are over already...it's like they don't people in events at all...BTW THEY DON'T NOBODY PLAYS EVENTS
>>527980678Hey fran, hows the commonwealth?
>>527996302Weird bug/ interaction with hats/masks.
>>527972737Colonel Evans is not available at the moment, please leave a message after the beep.
Thank you for contacting The Commonwealth Enclave and God bless America.
*beep*
>>528005142From where? Greggs?
>>528003006they don't people in events? how can they don't people in events? where is even happen?
>>528003006sucks to suck, going to be 150 next week
>>528006086>>528005142You fought the 76 and... the 76 won
>>528007663Yeah I exploited their shit fishing mini game and made a mod that made it easier...it's on nexus....if you have used it...rip, my face to Bethesda
>>528008738Are you the dude who spammed me on discord trying to get me to download it
>>528006645You're only level 50+ if you haven't exploited this season :^)
>>528008986I didn't exploit and I got 100 in the first week just casually running west tek lol
>>528008937I do not use discord.
>>528008986are you stupid or just pretending?
you can reach 100 in first few days just by doing raids
I don't quite understand what Fallout 76 is. Is it Conan Exiles or is it Destiny?
>>528012907Fallout 4 with multiplayer component
>>527971370Nate was too based for prewar America.
>>527992639Yeah, that's screenshot is from the lonesome road dlc, one of them nuke launching sites
Speaking of colors.
What pipboy/hud colors do you use?
For Vegas base game - amber. For OWB blue (duh), red for LR, and probably for DM, and maybe white for HH/
>>528020174or maybe green for LR.
>>527994604>What mods are you using?Sexout+TTW. I could probably get the modlist .txt if you want, but it probably won't be your thing.
>>528020174You change the pitboy/hud color when you start each DLC? That's funny, I just use the default color for each game, so green in 3 and 4, and amber in NV.
>>528020174Pipboy and HUD always stays max green
It doesn't look right otherwise
especially since I use the classic Fallout fonts on every game
>>528020174It depends of my character
I find the default hud colors kind of ugly. Amber and green are the better ones, though
Right now I have a mexican ncr cowboy, so the hud is a desaturated version of the green from the mexican flag. I plan on making an edgy aryan enclave twink next, and then I'll make the hud black and the pip-boy color the blue from the us flag.
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never felt so chad in my life
>>528027210New Vegas Reforged looking great
Was the red viper armor paint ever resold?
>>527985972they do it for (You)r viewing pleasure
>>527994604>What sort of sordid smut was in those blackmail tapes?The nasty kind that even a coping cuck wouldn't really be able to overlook. If you listen to some casting couch stories, you'd get an idea for what she probably was filmed doing, for example drinking some greasy old dude's pee. Gross.
>>527998434Hoover Dam is just a pre-war ruin. Do you have any idea the sort of construction an industrialized nation can perform while at war, the Colorado River should look like the Atlantic Wall
>Camp Golf isn't a frontline position There isn't a NCR position closer to THE Legion Fort. Perhaps it is a scale thing but it feels like Camp Golf should be in shelling range from the otherside of the river.
>Ceaser's Legion only has one piece of artilery as confirmed by the quest about that artillery piece in the fort.I mean then the entire conflict doesn't make sense artilery is the defining feature of Industrialized war. Ceaser's Legion is presented as a threat when the idea of a 1910s level society being seriously threatened by a nation with-out artilery is ridiculous let alone a 2010s level society.
>tfw still no vault meat paintings standalone version
"Come to bed, honey..."
"Not now. I'm writing a mission report."
**it is a bitch trying to get companions to sleep in beds this was a one in a million SS to take she would not go back to bed now matter how much i used relax in JIP**
>>528037878Shadbase.com still exists you know. It never went away.
>>528028772Yeah a couple of weeks ago
>>528040445but that's not a standalone version of the vault meat paintings mod.
>>527854917I feel like this thread lacks something too, hmmm
Giving neck scratches to my Cyberdog wife while she grinds my pelvis into dust
>>528041269Are you sure? Is English your first language?
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>>527764995 (OP)Does mad scientist work with gauss rifle?
In theory is should since it says "energy weapon" instead of "energy damage" and Gauss rile has always been classified as energy weapon for reasons but I can't tell from my testing
Cute new mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/92667
>>528012907at launch it would maybe be considered, by a huuuuge stretch, to be a very LITE survival sandbox - but only really because it had barely any content except a breadcrumb trail of lore holotapes, and you had to scrounge for everything. like it was a struggle to repair armor because it needed ballistic fiber which was in short supply.
running into another player was sometimes a little awkward because it wasn't really understood how people would play together, people didn't really understand if another person came to their camp if they could take their stuff, etcetc. although PvP was still kind of rare and you could pretty much ignore someone shooting at you.
now it's very easy to just say it's a fallout theme park. you can warp around to constant public events, running into players is friction-free, you are welcome into every camp and random groups, and there is a lot of actual content to do like quests, "dungeons", rep grinds, and even a raid. the survival sandbox element was pulled way back to basically nothing, and we get contextual loot instead - everything drops the ammo you are using, some food/water, and a random selection of junk. early on repairs can be just a little annoying, needing lots of screws, ballistic armor etc, but it becomes trivial very quickly. i've only raided a little bit but i have like 200 repair kits which replace the need for repair mats.
and then i should mention, in a middle era before this theme park, maybe it was experimenting as a seasonal game with different temporary game modes. but that kind of failed since making new temporary content is a lot of work for shit quality, to much resources and nobody liked it anyway. but idk so much i didn't play in that era.
tldr it used to be babby conan, now its babby destiny, although not really like those exactly.
>>528057220I wouldn't say its "babby destiny" either because it doesn't demand 60 dollars every time new content drops and it doesn't look and sound gay as fuck.
Any alternatives to "Powerful Power Armor" which is currently hidden?
I'm installing Arbitration and PPA is recommended to offset the damage changes.
>>528067540>Powerful Power Armorwhat did it do? I know TotNW has optional configs to increase stats
>>528067771Increased PA armour and damage resistance in Fallout 4
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Rivet City's an okay place
does it actually matter if new vegas is installed in or out of programfilesx86 to its own c:// folder
im too lazy and im not gonna fucking try to move my steam and all the shit out of programfiles
>>528067540I like to use Better Power Armor Redux
>Your Power Armor will now fully absorb the damage of ballistic and laser weapon types.>Each armor part will work individually and absorb the damage of the body part it covers.>When one power armor part breaks, only this body part that was covered will take damage.
>>528072371yes windows will fag you out if it's in program files or similar
>>528072371>Install anything on the C drive
>>528072371It matters when it comes to modding, it might give you issues with mods not installing properly and shit
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>>528072371steam has a function to cleanly move your install
>>528076192WHATTT
I DONT HAVE THAT WTF WHY IS IT GREYED OUT
>>528078497>>528072371It shouldn't matter if you use MO2 though right?
>>528078575please tell me why you think this (you are wrong)
>>528078497https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327
>>528074554>>528074531ive never had an issue in all my years of modding which is why i asked, because the viva new vegas guide is telling me i NEED to not have it in program files
>>528079939and the guide is correct
>>528079993kk ill just move everything manually
>>528080165Bad idea, sort out your Steam first so you can move folders as intended, through Steam.
Cool AR2 Facts:
If Railroad HQ is taken out prior to "Going Dark" (Enclave quest to destroy The Railroad) the player will be redirected to mop up remnants at Ticonderoga safehouse. This allows you to collect Guns and Bullets Issue #5 without completing Boston After Dark. Additionally, if PAM survives, she will be brought to the Atlantic Oil Rig and reprogrammed to serve the Enclave (similar the BoS post-Tactical Thinking.) She can be found in Dept. of Military Ops after completing the quest.
>>527939795BNS or Fallout Coniferous Revival for trees and plants, Fungal Forest w/ Exo's patch for the Glowing Sea, Mutant Menagerie and/or Alchemy for more harvestables.
>>527865912iirc Fallout Miami will have citrus crops but I don't think I've seen them modeled.
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I'm nearly done with all the main/side quests in 76 and have explored pretty much everywhere on the map. I've been playing for about 20 hours and I'm currently level 39.
What are these people who are leveled in the hundreds and thousands and with hundreds of hours of game time doing? Even if I wanted to dick around with the camp and daily tasks I don't see how I would do it that much.
>>528093294Really? I'm level 39 and still haven't done much in the main quest. But I have done a lot of events and exploring.
>>528093294>20 hrs>claiming to have done everythinglol lmao
>>528094062>>528094918I was doing just the main quest and got all the way to the mission where I have to get 10 recommendations by killing legendary enemies or scorchbeasts. I was like level 25 at that point. I gave up on the shitty writing pretty quick and started skipping all the dialogue and fast traveling everywhere. I have spent basically 0 time on my camp (only just now plopped down shit for the first time just for the ally and another side quests) and barely engaged with crafting, other players, daily tasks, etc.
I spend the next 8 or so hours traveling around to interesting places on the map I haven't been to and doing side quests. I have not been to every single building or place yet, no, but a lot. A lot of places are literally just junk. I remember back in like 2010 exploring every nook and cranny of Fallout 3 and spending like 300 hours on it. I dont remember it much but seemed like there was more stuff to collect and do.
I have 6/10 commendations before the I am Become Death mission, which I only havent sought after cause I (correctly) assumed I would run into some doing side quests. Apparently you can drop a nuke on the prime fissure whatever and take on the scorchbeast queen which apparently is like a final boss if the game were to have one. I doubt I would be able to solo it, but sounds like players swarm on it and team up on it anyway?
Why do people with a certian flag in their Blue Sky profiles support the NCR taking New Vegas? I thought the sovereignty of nations was a principle worth dying for even if those nations are morally lesser?
>>527944324>you can... have him removedBy who I talked to every named fucker in Malipas and at The Fort. Even still it doesn't change Ceaser's characterization. Which is my main concern.
>There's a pre war robobrain made just for taste testing alcohol on a college campus' speakeasy
This is so retarded
>>528095719Yeah, it drops good shit and players get their own share of the loot for participating. I disagree with most of your points though. I do think the writing is shit but the world is really fun to explore and well made, it has easily the best map in Fallout, even if it has almost none of WVA's historic sites, which was a huge missed opportunity.
There's also fun loot dropped constantly, but most of your loot comes from doing events and engaging with other players and doing dailies, which you said you weren't doing. I don't know why you're playing the game that way but it seems like it sucked all the fun out for you.
>>528103992>scorchbeast queenI want to fight it while maximizing the most amount of help I can. I would prefer to solo it but I dont think thats possible unless I grind to like level 500. I only care about "beating" this game and moving on (I have a lot of time on my hand and taking this once in a lifetime chance to try various mmos. yes i know people dont count F76 as an ammo).
>writing is shityep. could tell within the first few lines. im so tired of people just writing characters like theyre real life, modern day people on social media.
>world is fun to explore and well madeIt is. I never said it wasnt. After 3 I thought 4s setting was too similar and kind of a let down. Exploring the map is the best part of the game. I do wish they expanded their mock west virginia university more, like having mountaineer stadium, but copyright etc etc.
I was just referring to the fact that I didnt feel like I was discovering much gameplay wise. It comes from my general distaste for breakable/repairable weapon/armor and crafting gameplay design; it just means instead of finding set, identifiable, gear/weapons that becomes a story and identity of their own, you just find (literally) junk for crafting. What if the Nuka Cola Factory had a radiated cola bomb launcher or glowing nuka cola armor, something unique? That would be a story and fun. Instead its just clipboards, desktop fans, steel scrap, etc that is found in every other location. Locations lose identity with this sort of system.
I just prefer single player games and the main quests in general because I prefer specially made content made with effort by professionals. Ive never been into "kill # Xs" of the day lazy shit, nor have I ever been into user made content like mario maker.
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>>528105195>nuka cola factory>fight unique enemies in that location like zombie employees, faties who drank it too much, mutated nuka cola monsters, etc>quest about using specially made assets like flavor/cola mixing machine, distribution etc>find some nuka cola armor or weaponvs.
>nuka cola factory>fight the same enemies as everywhere because we need to make sure players who go in any direction have equal access to the same enemies and same drops>kill 10 ghouls>find scrap metal and toy cars, as you would anywhere, so you can scrap whatever you want
>>528105195You do find cool stuff like that though. But they're usually tied to events. For example a low level (Level 25) event involves getting a bunch of players to join a blue grass band to play live while other players defend them from a hoard of ghouls. The noise attracts a cryptid that everyone then has to work together to kill, and then in addition to the loot they get from the boss, they get level scaled whacky melee weapon instruments. My main gripe with 76 is how much of the game is tied into Fallout 1st and the Atomic Shop though.
Also, enemies have different "skins" for their locations, as well as at times, their level. This is why you might encounter scorched wearing Responder gear in former Responder bases, or Ghouls wearing Enclave/US Army army in pertinent areas, etc.
Also, the Thirst Zapper - a nuka cola themed weapon you can find there - defeats your example. I disagree with you about the repair/crafting system too, and it actually pissed me off a lot it wasn't in 4. In fact, having to repair your gear is the only thing that really incentivizes the player to try new equipment or to bring more than 1 or 2 weapons along with them. This was a huge problem in FO4 because there was effectively no reason to bring more than 2-3 weapons at any given time, if that many, as they never broke or degraded and their ammunition was reset upon unequip/re-equip. Having to mind how much you're using your weapon between benches gives you a real reason to consider picking up a new weapon an enemy drops even if it might not be as good as your legendary mcgetsemgun, or something new you find in the environment. There are also times when levels dispense specific loot with the idea of you grabbing and using them because you need to, such as in the Thunder Mountain Meltdown event where you're exposed to incredibly high rad areas, and the game spawns in hazmat suits in the three levels you have to go traverse, sometimes with unique designs or colors.
>>528105195>>528105318Ran out of room, sorry, so anyway like I was saying there are also other quests like what you described, like the nukashine quest, etc. it sounds to me like you haven't .. really engaged the game much in good faith because you just want to get to the end of it and went into the game thinking you aren't going to like it. It's just a shitty way to approach a game that is fundamentally a sandbox.
I fully disagree with you that locations "lose their identity" because, well, I already explained why that's just factually incorrect.
>>528108884to be fair though the plan UI is dog water and so is a lot of presentation of info in game (lack of). you can do events a bunch and never get the rare cool drop, so you'd never know it existed, or look at the settler/raider rep vendors and see nothing you want (all the cool shit only appears at max rank, and once again it's just a [Plan] item giving 0 details)
you have to basically scour the wiki and youtube content to realize most of what the game offers beyond the main/side quests served right on a plate for you.
Is there a way to fix the ghoul neck seam?
>>528108618The few events ive ran into were "power up the power plant by repairing these 5 things" i.e. go grind for junk to scrap and then kill 5 robots around a farm.
The band event you described is a nifty cute thing using existing assets I would expect as an average user-made mission, not the main attraction of a AAA game.
The problem with the nature of these types of games is matching with people is impossible because theyre either way higher or lower in level compared to you, unless you just have been playing the whole game with your set group of friends. Yes Im sure they accounted for this in some way but its always awkward.
Different skins doesnt really solve the issue. My example was not meant to be a perfectly analyzed example so much as a demonstration of what I meant. Most places and buildings do not have anything, and assuming I did miss that weapon it was among all the other sameness that was copied from the rest of the game that did not incentivize or give me hope to keep looking through every drawer and cabinet of rad-aways and pencils, especially given every other point of my example there IS accurate.
Games where you just have a best weapon you stick with the whole time has its own design issues, but the worst of that is still better than the best of a repair/break system which incentivizes you to not use your stuff and to avoid combat in general.
"Loot" (which along with the word "lore" make my skin crawl as theyre used by people who generally just dont get games) and enemies scaling to you again removes any sense of identity an area has. Everywhere you go the enemies are the same level as you. Thats boring. Places way too above your level can be issue but that gets into the innate flaws of open world itself.
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>>528113646just log in and don't have that bug.
seriously that's it, you're supposed to be full body ghoulified but sometimes you aren't. maybe getting in and out of PA does the trick idk.
>>528114051>it sounds like you havent engaged and just went in wanting to hate it.No, it sounds more like you are just upset that im not showering it with praise. I came in with an open mind despite the gaming world shitting all over it for the last 7 years. I like it much better than those people. To be fair I only started a few days ago and maybe it was an actual clusterfuck on day one. But even if my time sounds short I have indeed explored a very large amount of the map and have finished nearly all the major missions
I always play games wanting to either get to the end or drop it, but the ones that grip me will grip me and I keep playing them. The whole reason Im going through these MMOs is to give them a chance. F76 was much better than I anticipated, but it still has typical MMO like issues combined with the existing flaws of Fallout series and open world in general.
For a sandbox I expect more than "kill 10 radroaches" as my motivation to keep playing past the poorly written main story.
>you have to scour wikis and youtube to find itIve put uncountable hours into major big games like elder scrolls, fallout, gta, red dead, assassins creed, final fantasy, and so on. Generally, and this should be common sense, the best assets and work will have you guided to it. Devs will show off their best work. The best of F76 is not the random mine in the corner of the map.
What do a lot of people like and remember about this game? Country roads song, dropping a nuke, fighting the scortchqueen, etc. Those are things that require a game designer and unique aspects. Its not "defend from generic enemies while being stuck in one of our generic animations." Same problem with Mario Maker. All the creative levels and moments from Mario Galaxy, 3D World, Odyssey, etc require new assets and mechanics to be fresh, engaging and fun. Shuffling around existing things can be fun, but its mediocre, low-level fun I expect from players just making up games. Not the headline event.
>>528108884>my opinion is factually correctFunny thing to claim when its the thing you are most objectively incorrect about.
>>528114231That's because the intellectual themes found within go over your head. You aren't intelligent enough to appreciate the content or grasp its themes, which isn't your or the game's fault. Being confused doesn't feel good, so obviously you're not going to like that which prompts confusion. Also there's the ego aspect of feeling stupid, which adds to the displeasure.
>>528114784sounds like you already got what you like out of the game though. you don't have to get level 1000 and hunt for legendary loot if the whole MMO-lite and looter shooter aspect is not your bag - but that is what those lv1000 players are doing and enjoy, since you asked.
>>528114528Might also be underarmor, the secret service stuff has the worst luck with outfits.
>>528093294somewhat skeptical of your claim that you're mostly done with all of the side and main quest content, considering dome of the quest don't unlock until you reach certain level
Overseer's quest is your breadcrumb quest that guides towards other quest hubs
>Duchess/Polly quest in the Wayward >Flatwoods, you're introduced to Responders, group of people that tried to survive post war, group succumbed to scorchbeasts and the disease they carried >Military Bootcamp quest in the camp McLintock >vaccine quest in the ruined hospital>Enclave BunkerAsh Heap
>killing Overseer's scorchified husband>same region also offers your first Power Armor quest if you clicked the advertisement board>Cryptid Hunter side quest that unlocks public event Encryptid >Settlers questline Moving north towards toxic valley
>robotic mayor asks for help, some minor quests here and there, most are unlocked later>raider questlineSavage divide
>bring back raiders to the area>Rose's humiliation ritual quests>Brotherhood of Steel questline>Ultracite Power Armor (modified T-51b basically)>atlantic city introductory quest Mire
>secessionist group called Free States, scorchbeast alarm device quest >Radshield quest >Sunday Brothers small quest >Fishing Cranberry bog
>learn what the fuck happened to the area >conclusion of old Bos Chapter quests>Watoga city and robotic virus quest 5 expeditions with their own quests
there is also Raid, it is considered a quest within a game
sorry anon but no, you will need those levels and public events if wish to get the full experience
build wise lvl 300 os bare minimum to get last legendary perk card slot
There's a lot of annoying anons but this guy writing walls of text about Fallout 76 while clearly having no idea how the game's mechanics actually work is the worst one I've seen in some time
He reads like one of those semi coherent nonsense ChatGPT filler pages that'd go "To get the Instigating Minigun in Fallout New Vegas, travel to the Lincoln Memorial and talk to Aradesh"
>I have no nothing to add except bitch about it
nice going pinko
Is there a download link for 4est HDTP texture pack for Fallout 4? It's a shame how modders aren't allowed to create compilations of different and can only create guides or tutorials. Downloading all these different texture mods and combining them into BA2 is such a pain in the ass.
hold on, if i am using BASS then can i also use NG versions of any mods present?
>>527764995 (OP)>put tv on a table in front of my bed>connect computer to it>wake up in the morning>start playing fallout nv within seconds of walking up>don't even have to step out of the bedMaybe.... Maybe life wasn't meant to be this comfy. Playing as the "courier" somehow gives me courage irl as well for whatever reason
i'm beginning to think if Midnight Ride is giving bad advice. MO2 seems to be all kinds of broken. now bodyslide refuses to run at all with vfs, really frustrating since i need it for some of my essential armor mods.
is canned coffee good for you?
>>528146631It's not good for your balls.
>>528147491these reek of tranny
>>528147583>>528147758You people are deranged.
>>528147491Looks ok, at least some of them. Is this for Fallout 4 New Vegas or something else?
>>528148235NV, and I think they're from the Operation: Sunburst animation
>>528147885an army that can't reliably supply meat or fix a fucking food processor won't spend time making sure their uniform has 6 custom made buttons with bear logo on it
game beats you over the head multiple times with the fact how rigid the army branch of NCR is not counting the ranger core
it doesn't fit
>>528149046Those are good points. I concede.
>>528149046>their uniform has 6 custom made buttons with bear logo on itWhat are you talking about? Every one of those uniforms has the same vest with the NCR logo and that's it. There's no special buttons or patches. The differences are additional gear based on their role, roles that exist in the base game. It's using the thing you see in vanilla NV with a little dressing on top.
>>528150456*burps on your cock*
>>528151417unironically a fetish of mine, how did you know
>>528150456>>528150456>roles that exist in the base gamewhich ones pray tell?
troopers do all most of those duties
>scouteither rangers or troopers
>heavy gunneryou don't even really see NCR trooper with heavy gun
>flametrooper???
>assault trooper... that's what trooper already does, what the fuck is this?
>sniperin-game either First Recon or Rangers, you don't see other snipers on NCR side (hoover dam maybe?)
>shotgun trench raiderwhat trenches?
>ordinance trooperagainst what exactly? non existing mechanized units of Legion ?
>Radio Engineeragain we don't see any in the field, they are all inside their tents at various camps
>Rad Trooperyeah saw those farming bananas at camp searchlight the other day
>medicwhy the fuck do he carry so many crutches jesus
>officerHELLO KOJIMA SAN I LUV METAL GEAR SOLID
>first recon survival>This is the greatest handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. Six bulletsSpins his stolen Ranger's Sequoia 6 times for dramatic effect
my god she is so beautiful.
>>528152778I would have fapped to this 15 years ago. I fapped to way worse 15 years ago
Is it safe to leave the fridge on during thunder storm?
>>528152778the only things she got going for her are her tits
>>528160073that's an ugly man
seems like I'm auto-saged out again, someone else has to bump for a while
>>528162446not really unless you're willing to go an extra mile
>have to wear hijab if you want to do quests or just get your weekly gold bullion from wayward>your charisma will be shit not matter what, vendoring shit for caps is a chore>no unyielding, overshitter armor doesn't work>constant addiction >limbs / armor broken 24/7 unless you run perks or armor pieces>your AP amount is terrible, which means food or legendary armor pieces with AGI on them>Raiding sucks as a ghoul, all the chip damage removes your glow>have to fill your bag with 300 goo just to keep glow high for a few days (or hours if you raid)all for somewhat higher damage than full health non ghoul character
>but meleeyou have one gimmicky build with minigun bashing that does lot of damage, good on you
>I want oblivion with guns
>not skyblivion with guns [forma del MMO]
>76 BAD
Must we do this song and dance every day
>>528163462>questslmao
>charismadump stat, at worst you have to sell 100 or so more stimpaks rather than dropping them to ground
>muh unyealdierinowhat fucking year is this?
>addictionoh no, -10hp on my 200,000,000 overheal!!!1!
>limbs/armorare you taking damage? how? I run meme-gunner no powerarmor and even then most enemies never react fast enough to turn to face me far less to shoot
>apAh, a vatshitter.
>muh raidingI have 6k hours in just one day of play and I have never set a foot inside raid outside of 1 run where I got all my 4stars first try solo
>goothis one is true but get glowing gut and it mostly makes it non-issue, before that I just made a custom bind on my mouse and bound goo-slop to my mouse 1 at 1:5 rate
I have never used melee so I can't comment of that
>>528116848Conversely, I'm confused why people are so skeptical of it. It doesn't take 300 hours to explore a map and do 3 minute point a to point b missions. Even guides are like "oh boy you gotta be careful about this area unless you load up or grind levels." Maybe cause I dumped all my points into strength and intelligence that I just whack shit up to like level 60 to death in 2-4 hits.
Yeaht that list you gave I've done about 80% of.
>>528115532Yes that was my original question. That I genuinely don't see what there is to do for so many hours and levels. I am not interested in going back to the same locations over and over to kill 10, 20, 30 of generic enemies or some sponge-health tank "boss" that requires 5 people for daily ai-written quests so that I can build a house.
As I said I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, overall I would say its been a good fun experience. The only outright thing I would say is genuinely bad is the writing, holy shit its bad.
For comparison my other mmo experiences so far have been
>star wars galaxiesdid the main legacy quest and other main side quests which was well over 100 hours. obviously dated and very mundane, boring gameplay and nonexistant story. literally kill 10 x, 20x over and over for 100 hours until the final quests HP/"get 4 friends"-gate you. i am autistically patient with games like this
>phantasy star online 1 and 2, dragon ball onlinedropped all 3 of these almost instantly. all of them are just shit. most would probably agree dbo is shit and defend PSO but DBO at least has some semblence of a larger world to engage with, rather than a single room hub and like 10 small maps you teleport to a thousand times over.
>>528093294>What are these people who are leveled in the hundreds and thousands and with hundreds of hours of game time doing?XP buffs before doing raids non-stop.
>>528122082>he has no idea what hes talking about and like so stupid!>no i wont explain whyok buddy stay mad
>>528169065>Even guides are like "oh boy you gotta be careful about this area unless you load up or grind levels."probably older guides, F76 levelling experience was vastly different, ammo economy was terrible overall and yet game was skewed towards ammo hog weapons, there were no "start at lvl 20" skips or even starting items, just whatever you could scrounge
isn't this the gun that they shot Bonnie and Clyde with?
https://youtu.be/SHZXtQS20EE?si=zPw_RckVc50ahxQB&t=660
>>528170453.308, my beloved...
>>528170805Yeah, though it's not confirmed if the bullets killed them.
>>528172265well now i know what i'm gonna be running bloody mess with.
If I make a floating base under the map will it still lag the server?
Is there a way to loose rep with settlers?
I want to go to war with them like you start with raiders
>>528172952if you're at max rep then no, if you're still gaining reputation with them you can either
>during runaway daily quest you can send them against settlers>kill settler NPCs that can give small reputation for favors (gib materials, talk etc...)even then very difficult
>>528173383>>during runaway daily quest you can send them against settlerswho? the hunting party?
>>528175270the hunted raider can be persuaded to attack the settlers, gives negative rep towards settlers
>>528176020I've never seen that option
i'm not sure if i like the expressive expressions mod.
>>528177628Just kill the slag
>>528146631Where is the
>lust provoking imageto back that up?
>>528177628Needs some sunglasses for that smugness.
>>528182894Why dont you post one instead?
>>528183289>Why dont you post one instead?The mariner stays on til 150.
>>528182894would rad-bans suffice?
>>528183519Mariner Whiskey a cute
>>528147491Based
Who is making it? Link?
>>528183742Hey whatever you got.
surprised you didn't pick up the flower crowns port.
>>528184006She is adorable, until the tab comes.
>>52818478376 added flower crowns, an anon ported them over.
I think they might be in the 4 or 76 resources IIRC.
>>528185240found this one, although it doesn't seem like a 76 port.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/59835
>>528185735does commando nora go commando... down there ?
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Bros... It's so over...
>>528177628is there a mod that adds more idle animations in dialogue? sick of having to see the same 6 poses, especially that one where the character clasps their hands and shrugs. hate that one
>>528185735Not that one, but fuck if i can't find an archive.
>>528186071They won't add it to any resource they know people have stockpiled.
Cowards.
>>528186071Dadgamers will buy it
>>528177628eh, piper's facemorph data is just nuts like that
I must install sex mods to cuck the men of the Wastelands by fucking their wives
>Be Luke
>Be tall, red haired white man
>Simp for brown mystery meat spic woman
>Get brutally murdered and eaten by super mutants making caravan runs for her
>Dying message proclaiming your love for her
>She barely reacts to this
>Instead flirts with the vault dweller to get him to do your job now that you're dead and also to pay her 500 caps for rent
Grim.
>>528195315Isn't the brahmin girl trying to make a move?
>>528196286She's trying to make a new Blue Ridge branch while Joanna, the owner, attempts to coerce her back to the main branch. Her only employee was Luke, who stuck by her because he loved her even though she's a fucking retard who wasted all their money and ran the business into the dirt.
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Thinking of playing Fallout London, is it any good? I mean it can't be any worse than the Frontier can it.
>>528197984It's miles better than frontier on the account you most likely won't even be able to start it
>>528197984i feel like boring is worse than bizarre
>>528197984We don't know yet, still waiting for the hotfix.
>>528198101>on the account you most likely won't even be able to start it>>528198262>hotfixwtf happened
>>528197984>is it any good?No
>I mean it can't be any worse than the Frontier can it.Frontier wasn't even that bad by Bethesda games modding standards, it just got a bunch of negative buzz due to high expectations and a few very cringe moments. Purely in terms of quality The Frontier is much better than Fallout London most of the time. And yeah, as another anon pointed out London is just fucking boring
>>528197224>She's trying to make a new Blue Ridge branchI meant Josie, but i may be reading into it.
>>528199165the ya olde moneybag marathon
team went to fetch some milk and cigarettes so to speak.
>>528199348>Frontier wasn't even that bad by Bethesda games modding standards, it just got a bunch of negative buzz due to high expectations and a few very cringe momentsnot to mention the story and lore was utter fucking niggerslop, the crusaders path was the only one i found manageable and that was thanks to that one asian bitch with the purple pants and HUGE fucking ass in them.
>as another anon pointed out London is just fucking boringHow so? Do the female npcs look any good at least? It's Britain so I'm not expecting much, but still.
>>528197984a lot of retarded decisions were made when it came to London
>Todd announced new update, let's blame him for delay and not out vaporware project >London comes out, but you have to jump through hoops with GoG and make sure your version is pre update, shady looking utility provided for that>Game starts, you receive 2 big debuffs >as a result of said debuff you will get one-two shot by first non tutorial enemies even with 8+ endurance>ammo is scarce even with scrounger perk >building interiors so poorly implemented that enemies from several floors above you can see your character and will shoot him>exploration and rewards for it are atrocious, shitty collectible that barely adds anything (during launch it actually made your stats worse that was fixed), game introduced such fun mechanic as spawning swarm of enemies during rad storms, when that happens you have fast travel out of there, random body of water has more rads than Chernobyl dumpsters>to remove said debuffs you have to help annoying fags in newspaper boy caps and feesh people
>>528200158>not to mention the story and lore was utter fucking niggerslopOnly NCR quest was complete trash, Legion and Crusader quest lines were fine since they were written by other people. The problem is that you're fucking stuck with the NCR quest line for a good half of the mod no matter which path you choose and thank god the Frontier remake will fix that
>How so?The world is boring and has nothing interesting to explore, the quests range from awful to just boring, the whole experience in general is just disappointing
There's a good reason why literally no one mentions this shit ever. Even Frontier has more good stuff for which people are remaking it for
I LOVE being the kind of retard that forgets about linings when making a new character!!1!
>playing Fallout 4
>decide to actually try to build up Sanctuary as much as I can (even though I am garbage at building and decorating) before slowly moving on to the other settlements and linking them all up
>ignore the main story, do side quests and Creation Club content; also went to Nuka World because I actually like the place a lot
>the game is incredibly relaxing when you're not interacting with the terrible main storyline
what did Todd mean by this?
>>528201979If you want one thats transferable, i could make it for you.
>>528201556>picrelEw, yet somehow better looking than the average brit woman. Either way I'm downloading it so might as well go thru the shit show.
>>528201457>to remove said debuffs you have to help annoying fags in newspaper boy caps and feesh peopleWow I sure do love being railroaded into helping people, even if I don't want to help them. Because we didn't get enough of that in Bethesda games already
>>528199612>but I may be reading into itI think you are
>>528209757Maybe, but i'd wager someone wrote it that way to give the ambiguity.
>>528201556>Legion questYou mean the faction led by a self described male feminist?
>>528209998I disagree with you because if there were ever that kind of intention the game would be completely on the nose and unambiguous with it like it is with every other homosexual element or instance, try to fix your brainrot sometime
>>528210275>I disagree with you because if there were ever that kind of intention the game would be completely on the nose and unambiguousFair point, my fault for thinking they had a hint of subtlety with one sided feelings.
>>528201979It's ok,retard
>>528201457>>528207597>>528201556I rather liked Fallout London and I'll talk about your complaints because they do show that you legit played it
>the debuffsThe first debuff can be cured by any doctor; at the outset you're given two different options to ones in your vicinity
The second debuff is cured halfway through the main quest
The game is definitely harder than Fallout 4. Since Fallout 4 is so easy I don't see this as a negative
>You are always squishy - until you stack armor. Trapper armor can be bought from the wandering armor merchant very near the start of the game, police armor can be found in the station just south of the Peaky Blinders guys. Ballistic weave makes its return but the game has a great intermediate option; long before you unlock weave, with Armorer 2 you can give your vault suit +30 DR, which makes a massive difference>ammo is always scarce except for the humble .32; this means you should keep a "good" gun and a gun that digests .32 to deal with foxes/hooligans/etc., the Spy Pistol and the Ferryman's Friend are both great choices until you find a Wounding/Explosive/Plasma Crude Gun>the water is super deadly intentionally; invest in Solar Powered to drain your rads at all times and Life Giver to refill your HPThe game most certainly doesn't railroad you to anyone - every faction can be destroyed, there is not even a Yes Man/Minutemen style failsafe. The Vagabonds are like the practice faction because they don't matter in the endgame and you can work with them, betray them or take them over.
The game certainly is buggy as hell but each patch improved it greatly. Make sure you're on 1.02. 1.03 has been "coming soon" for months.
I'm always in awe that it's a whole game. New map, new weapons, new enemies, new quests, new voice actors. Very little is actually kept from Fallout 4 except for the gameplay structure itself. I can't believe pic related was from real life.
>>528210627That hockey mask fucks.
>>528210275you're talking to a literal troon brain rot is unfortunately terminal
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>enter the Thuggyverse
>head to concord
>little girl says her friend was in the department store down the street
>Know it's an obvious trap, go in it anyways
>explore a bit, decently stocked with good junk
>some stupid lore bits in terminals claiming it was where all the families that dwell in the early game settlements originally came from
>walk upstairs, get knocked unconscious
>"oh no! I've been Enslaved and all of my stuff has been stolen! what will I do?"
>go through an insanely basic dungeon but with naked bomb collared slaves clamped on the walls and on other ZAZ props
>after getting my shit back and leaving the dungeon the Slavers who trapped me ask me to meet them upstairs
>go up to their pad (the layout of the building is confusing as hell)
>they admit they are Slave traders but it's cool "Bcuz they only enslave raiders n shieet"
>the leader is a Ghoul who was originally from Detroit and worked in a Ford factory before the war
>He also claims to be ex-minuteman from Quincy before the massacre which based on first hand lore only happened a few days ago at most considering how this is meant to be a starting faction quest
>the little girl is their as well, complaining about Preston Garvey even though, again, at this point, he is the only living member of the minutemen left in the entire commonwealth when Nate awakens
>before long the gunners attack and are beaten back by the Stripper Slavers
>after that the Ghoul goes on a 10 minute long speech about the gunners being the bad guys and we, LITERAL SLAVERS, shall form a resistance to them in order to "protect" the commonwealth
I knew this shit was cringe as hell but holy shit this is even worse than everything they claim Bethesda is. at least it isn't as crash prone as Tales of the Commonwealth jfc
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>>528210627You ask too much of Bethesda Austin, fren
>>528212343That's Sloppysmurf for ya.
>>528212526>You ask too much of Bethesda Austin, frenYeah, for the shit that slips through we get nothing nuanced or from the gaps.
>X gets reworked
>X becomes next OP meta until next thing gets reworked
>next rework is heavy guns
>Bows are last
Bros bows are going to be the final OP meta!!1! Trust the plan!!!
>>528037330>There isn't a NCR position closer to THE Legion fortDid you forget about Hoover Dam or Ranger Station Bravo?
There's also Camp Guardian, but it's overrun by Lakelurks by the time you get there.
>industrialized nationI'm not sure if the NCR is though? I never said it was industrialized, just that it was the most advanced. The Brotherhood isn't a nation because it has no cities, no government (beyond it's military) and no civilian citizens.
I'm not the guy who kept bringing up them being a 2010s level society, I don't think they're 2010s level, at least depending on the exact location in the NCR.
>I mean then the entire conflict doesn't make sense artilery is the defining feature of Industrialized war.Yeah, I do feel like the NCR should AT LEAST have mortars.
>>528217004By definition the ncr is certainly an industrialized society. They're that way by the time of FO2, even.
>>528219751Hmm, fair. They are mass producing armor and service rifles for the army, and armor+arms for the rangers.
>>528220941>>528219751no they arent. Jfc NV fags are morons always sprouting headcanon.
The service rifles are prewar
The armour for the rangers is pre war riot armour
DUMB FUCKS stop autistically repeating head canon as lore
What the fuck is this shit? Every recent Wabbajack I've used is doing this "stock game files" folder where nothing actually exists inside the folder and it's trying to launch from there, instead of using my Steam install which is right fucking there.
What is it doing and why is it over complicating what used to just werk? Having this problem with New Vegas: Wildcard and had the same problem trying to install LoreRim 4.0 today.
>>528223051VNV's wabbajack does not have this problem, you're gonna have to ask that specific wabbajack's creator.
>>528214428Every gun is more or less viable for fucking around with now. I like shitposting at events with this absurdity.
For raids stage 1 and 5 though, it's still hard to visualize anything ever working as efficiently as a gatling plasma does
>>528224257Read me on Wabbajack brings me to Wild Card's Nexus page which is currently shut down. Waste of 100GB of bandwidth. Extremely lame.
https://fast-poll.com/poll/b93db068
>New race
That wouldn't be new. We just got ghouls. Complete world overhaul or a massive worldspace chunk.
Alternatively give us an engine port to the new Starfield renderer. Say what you will about Starfield but the tech is solid.
>>528221772I'm talking about Patrol Armor, not the Riot Gear.
Where are you getting them being pre-war anyway? It certainly looks like they're mass produced, and the standard rifle for the US Military iirc is the R-91.
>>528227854Jawyer stated they are prewar rifles. Why do you NCR fags embellish the NCR so much its so fucking ridiculous
>>528228065Where? And calm down anon, I'm going by what I can infer from the game (literally almost every soldier in the NCR having standard armor and uniform as well as a standard rifle).
>>528228291you are not. If you infer by the game they are using prewar things.
You are exaggerating and you are also lying to me trying to be disingenuous because you post this bs all the time in here and you know Sawyer clarified it, you autistic tranny
>>528228449I'm not sure if you're unironically mentally ill or baiting, but I hope you feel better soon.
Autistic map painter troons want to force their head canon the ncr is like le weimar republic industrialised germany building tanks and mortars and marching all over the wasteland.
Its so fucking ridiculous listing to autistic poltards discuss any game. They dont want Fallout, they want 20th century map painter political sim.
Who the fuck is Jawyer? Why do the people say proper nouns like I'm supposed to know who they are?
>>528228584faggot you are the one who is mentally ill, to be posting the exact same retarded shit every day for over a decade, even after being corrected countless times.
>>528228803Joshua Sawyer I assume.
>>528228898>Who is [proper noun]>Oh that's a nickname for [proper noun]
>>528228803you know pretending to be an ignorant dumbass doesnt work here you mentally ill troon
You know exactly who J.Sawyer is
>>528228898dont feed him. This faggot is sick in the head,
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>You don't know my favorite celerity
>You must be a troon
>>528228449NTA but the NCR's weapons are a combination of refurbished, salvaged pre and post-war, plus brand new weapons manufactured by groups like the Gun Runners. Riot Gear is pre-war, yes. The average fatigues and trooper armor are post-war manufactured.
They absolutely are not manufacturing tanks, but they ARE manufacturing vertibirds because of captured Enclave facilities (Navarro, etc) post FO2. It's how they have the special Bear Force One 'bird for Kimball.
Consider FO2 ended in 2241-2, and Tandi passes in 2248. Kimball takes over not too long after and the nation grows more and more militarized. There are weapons manufacturers and other wartime suppliers all over; people are actively incentivized to recover pre-war facilities or redevelop the manufacturing technology for the same. Stuff definitely isn't ubiquitous but they have a steady supply.
Ever since i saw that NCR fag that posts the pictures of NCR "winning" New Vegas and having massive victory parades and expanding further,
I was so glad the show nuked the NCR
>>528229381I hate the NCR but I sure wasn't glad the show did it.
Ever since i saw that Rebel Alliance fag that posts the pictures of the Rebel Alliance "winning" against the Empire and having massive victory parades and expanding further,
I was so glad the The Force Awakens nuked the New Republic
>>528229301they are manufacturing vertibirds
They arent manufacturing power armour
They arent manufacturing ranger gear
They arent manufacturing service rifles
All of this is pretty much outright stated or inferred in game
What you are describing is headcanon. No one but the Shi and then later the BoS has the no how to build verts or maintain power armour.
The NCR has a vert in New Vegas, doesnt mean they know how to make one.
They dont know how to maintain power armour, hence salvaged power armour being not powered.
>>528229301NTA but iirc they weren't manufacturing vertibirds, just keeping the ones they captured repaired.
I really doubt they're making tanks anyway, they just aren't economical unless the NCR somehow encounters a threat that requires tanks.
If anything it would be armored cars like the Panhard AML, but that would be in a future NCR which can manufacture biofuel and rubber in high enough quantity that unfortunately seems to be an impossibility considering the current trend.
>>528229459nah im glad, and we are going to see further how badly the NCR got its ass chewed up by legion and deathclaws
>>528229660they aren't manufacturing vertibirds*
>>528229798>nah im glad, and we are going to see further how badly the NCR got its ass chewed up by legion and deathclawsAs long as they bring back the GODclave in full glory all is forgiven.
only thing we know the NCR have is trucks and the ability to maintain trains.
>>528229946Bet $5 someone is gonna start screaming about headcanon
>>528229895the way the Enclave is portrayed in the show is weird, almost neutral
They might be setting up as a surprise to new viewers in the third season, that they are villians.
Fallout New Vegas is retarded though? In Fallout 1. Mariposa was manufacturing trucks 60 years after the Master left vault 8. The NCR lives in a pre-war golf course 40 years after Fallout 2.
>>528229660Well yeah I don't disagree with anything you said in this post, I'm just saying there are manufacturing capabilities and that is being expanded upon in the decades past FO2.
>>528229703They're definitely not making tanks! They captured Navarro, though, and with that the facilities and plans for making vertibirds.
>>528230312Verts are notoriously hard to make and maintain, the NCR isnt as technology as advanced as the BoS and Enclave or Shi(t)
Maybe if the NCR joined forces with the Shi(t) but that doesnt seem to be the case in New Vegas
>>528229660>They dont know how to maintain power armour, hence salvaged power armour being not powered.They don't know how to MAKE power armor, important distinction. They removed the servos and hydraulics from the suits so they could study them since they don't know how to produce the exact hydraulic and servo system that T-45d power armor suits require.
>>528230540make or maintain since they can't repair salvaged pa.
They have working PA, the guy in Sierra PA. Its an heirloom.
>>528230312Navarro just had the facilities to maintain verts, not produce them iirc.
I wouldn't argue with
>>528229660 unless you're bored anyway, seeing as he's now looped back to pre-war golf courses.
>>528230707I'll just say I'm not some NCR obsessed fag but pretending they don't have the capability of manufacturing a variety of stuff is silly
>>528230707Two different posters you dumbass. And slso dont tell other posters who they can and cant agree with you arent an authority on anything you faggot
>>528230810Same typing style, same topic, bla bla bla.
>>528230789they don't. The issue is faggots take the gun runner lore than infer the NCR is practical prewar le post post super power, that can do anything.
The gun runner lore is so shit. Because its continually taken out of context. To implying people in the wasteland have zero issue with resources or expertise or knowledge. They can just 3d print whatever they like in huge amounts.
When whats happening is you have small gunsmith operations dotted over the wasteland, refurbishing guns. Thats what they are doing
>>528230663>make or maintain since they can't repair salvaged pa.What makes you say that? Salvaged PA lacks the hydraulics systems, it's just the armor plating.
Or do you mean salvaged in general?
>>528231110How is that good writing? A human civilization several decades old can't produce things, while an entirely new species of a similar age can produce trucks? How is that good?
i'd go so far as to say the gun runner lore which was added for the sake of the p2w dlc is the most damaging piece of retconned bullshit in he entire series. Its more damaging than anything Bethesda has done.
Since it completely gives the wrong impression of the setting.
>>528231110The Gun Runners are literally situated on a pre-war arms factory.
I'm not saying that the NCR is a pre-war super power, just that they have the capabilities mass produce service rifles and trooper armor, which is something we literally see in game.
Come on anon, give me something new to argue about, I'm bored.
>>528231465That people can manufacture things is the wrong impression of the setting?
In Fallout 1 mariposa could manufacture trucks. In Fallout 2 the Enclave can manufacture power armor better than what existed pre-war. In Fallout New Vegas the NCR live out of a Golf Course instead of a fort. One of these things is not like the others.
>MUH GAWLF KURS
holy shit give it a rest anon
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Remember people always lived in pre-war golf courses in Fallout. Anything else is the wrong impression of the series.
>as expected like clockwork the post post retards come out
>basing their shit reinterpretation of the setting exclusively on incorrect gun runner lore
is it autism?
Its all bs, the caravan lady assumes they make guns from scratch. They are Gun "runners" they import guns.
>>528231892This
>>528231821 is gun runners lore?
>>528231798Yeah I want to see something new.
Like why doesn't the NCR move or scrap the planes in McCarran considering they're sitting there taking up a bunch of space.
That reminds me, how did the first vault dwellers get to their vaults? We see vaults like 13 and 15 are in the middle of fucking nowhere, was there like a bus or something?
>>528231967Adobe mud huts are not guns. What in the actual fuck is wrong with you?
You infer because one tiny corner of the wasteland has mowed grass, that there is no wasteland
>>528232013I could see it, though that brings the question of just how many buses managed to reach those vaults out in the sticks.
>>528232013the ones in the middle of nowhere had a bit more time to be bussed there. Cause the nukes didnt fall in the desert.
>>528230540They're probably doing that to, but the core reason those systems are pulled out is because the NCR can't maintain them, so to them the suits are only good as ballistic rated plate armor until their tech base is up to snuff.
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>>528232073...but those guns are guns, thoughbeit, and these asphalt roads are asphalt roads. Guns were invented and manufactured long before asphalt roads. By the way what are the asphalt roads with sidewalks for?
>>528232272True. And the armor plates themselves are maintainable as T-45D suits use steel plating iirc.
>>528232287from anywhere, scavengers find prewar gun caches, they make their way to traders. The gun runners acquire them.
The most the gun runners are doing is refurbishing them for sale.
The idea they are actually building the mist high tech advanced guns from scratch when people like Mr House struggle to do any of that is utter setting breaking bullcrap
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>>528232425>MUH MUH ITSA PRE WAR CITY
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>>528232013>>528232169>>528232206...so in Fallout 1 and 2 there is this idea that a nuclear war had hit America. For reference this is what a non-nuclear bombing can do to a city, nuclear bombs from 2067 are going to be far more destructive than any conventional explosive from 1945. Perhaps maybe Vaults that are in the middle of nowhere weren't always in the middle of nowhere.
why do people insist adobe mud huts, which could be made out of brahmin crap for all we know are the height of technology?
>>528232494>The idea they are actually building the mist high tech advanced guns from scratch>he thinks AR-15s with wood furniture are high tech advanced gunsHoly shit, are you an African? Is that it? Is that uncomprehensible to your tiny little nigger brain?
>>528232787AR-15s are the result of roughly 1,200 years of innovation on gun technology? All modern fire arms are advanced fire arms.
>>528232750there are middle of nowhere vaults though. What you dont understand is In Fallout, it operates under this out dated logic that in a nuclear war, a giant cloud of green gas would cover the entire land.
So you need to get into a vault even in the desert because this tsunami of deadly gas will make it to you eventually
>>528232750There'd be destroyed+damaged outskirts depending on the megatonnage and size of the city. Plus we see cities that were nuked with vaults in them, like with Necropolis.
>>528232936>AR-15>ModernHoly shit you ARE an African
AK-47s must seem like the height of technology to you.
i swear this nv fag doesnt even play the game, hes some sort of poltard obviously.
Gun runners sell energy weapons and kraut space magic type guns
>>528232936They're not that complicated mechanically though, and the Gun Runners possess data packages for most of the stuff they sell. If they can get access to good barrel stock and tooling then they can make a rifle because all the innovations have been made for them already.
>>528233121Fuck off you wannabe k fag poltard. What a disingenuous position. The gun runners sell more than AR rifles. You are low iq and a lying faggot
>>528233121The AR-15 is from the 1960s right? That's modern when we are talking about a history over a thousand years long. 60 years just isn't that long in the grand scheme of things, people were alive when the AR-15 was new.
>>528233175its bullshit lore, also the gun runners arent the ncr.
>>528233280O anon, beweeg die doelpale reeds? Die oorspronklike onderwerp het gegaan oor die NCR-massaproduserende Service Rifles. Dit is goed om te sê jy is vertraag of verveeld. Of hou jy van die Legioen? Ek kan verstaan of dit jou aan jou tuisland herinner, en as jy kwaad is dat enige Legioen-aanval deur genoeg goed voorsiende masjiengeweerneste afgestomp kan word.
>>528232979Any country has dozens of smaller cities that could be entirely leveled with one bomb. The idea that the third largest city in America (in 1960s) still has ruins doesn't mean that every population center would have ruins.
>>528232968Vault 4.
>>528233425>its bullshit lore?
You can steal a data package from them in New Vegas as part of a quest for the Crimson Caravan.
>the gun runners arent the ncrThey sell to the NCR. Well, they sell to everyone, but the government's a customer of theirs. The reason CC wants the data package is so they can eat all their business contracts with the NCR.
NOBODY can produce things in Fallout, that's a Bethesda misinterpretation of the lore. Mariposa, Enclave and the Shi aren't real, these were bullshit retcons made for p2w dlc.
>>528233684>Any country has dozens of smaller cities that could be entirely leveled with one bomb. The idea that the third largest city in America (in 1960s) still has ruins doesn't mean that every population center would have ruins.Fair, fair. Hence why I said depending on the megatonnage of the bomb and size of the city.
>>528219080Fuck
I hope it won't have those ugly faces that his mods usually have
>>528233362We're talking about the history of guns though, which has made MAJOR leaps and bounds in the past three centuries. Going from muzzleloaders to repeating rifles, then bolt actions, semi-automatics and automatic rifles.
If only the nukes could target NCR, and only NCR, it might almost be a net gain.
NV fags dont understand the lore. They deliberately misinterpret the lore to create their own expanded universe fanon
>>528233865According to the og lore only the Shi, have no issue making anything, Because they have ai super computers helping. Nothing to do with Bethesda.
BoS and Enclave are stated to have trouble making prewar some things despite being the two most technological advanced factions.
Awww, die arme klein lootjie skud homself.
why is every nv fag a mentally ill schizo
>>528234375Omdat die Broederskap en Enklawe nie die materiaal en fasiliteite het nie, my klein vertraag.
Reminder that in Fallout 4 before the Gunners and the Institute came along people lived pretty well. It's basically a post post post apocalypse situation with you finding the ruins of a civilisation that was created after a nuclear war
i want to know what pre pre war was like.
>>528234503Wat is jou gunsteling Fallout-speletjie dan? As dit 4 of 76 is, sal ek lag.
>>528234375>The Enclave doesn't make thingsAdvanced Power Armor for 200 Alex.
>...but in a game made 17 years later you can find Enclave armor in Nuka World>NVfagI have done very little but complain about Fallout New Vegas, because New Vegas is a Betheda game through and through. I mean the NCR lives in a Golf Course and is threatened by a nation that doesn't have artillery.
>>528234608Unironically better than 3's backstory in that regard.
4 at least has a reason why a nation hasn't formed yet.
>>528233865its actually ironic because Bethesdas lore takes into account for example the BoS learning how to make vertibirds and other things.
>>528234916That's why the BoS in Fallout 3 live in Pre-war ruins instead of forts right?
>>528234806Hoekom slaan jy jouself, anoniem? As jy so outisties is, dan het jy 'n versorger nodig, of moet jy in 'n inrigting opgeneem word. Alhoewel ek twyfel of jou dorp enige geestesinrigtings binne 'n radius van 500 km het. Jy sou dink hulle sou ten minste 'n hut aan die buitewyke hê om iemand soos jy te huisves. Jammer dat hulle jou internettoegang moes gee.
>>528234375Knowing your fundamentals only goes so far without heavy industry; sad but true. I expect Enclave and BoS engineers could whip up some very nice looking blueprints but if you can't source computer components or exotic composites required for your new thing, you're not making it.
>>528234608True. The Commonwealth had a nascent government and everything before the Institute started killing everyone and turning them into super mutants. The area would have been mostly agrarian and stuff but probably not a terrible place to live as long as you've got shelter from the radstorms.
>>528234806No one said they dont make things you low iq esl autistic retard. They have trouble making somethings. The APA was stated to have many failed attempts because they lacked the scientists and engineers. The actual APA is a near enough is good enough attempt.
You NV autists are dumbfucks that dont get the lore.
>>528234881It's pretty poorly explained but yes, it's WAY better than Fallout 3. The Commonwealth tried to create a government several times and failed for pretty logical reasons, what we see in the game is a consequence of a lot of bullshit and Bethesda's laziness because it should have been much more populated and friendly in the first place.
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>>5282348813s reason was it was a hell hole up until recently
4s reason is an evil enclave of nerds are actively sabotaging everything
>>528235102Oh issues making things? That puts the Enclave on par with modern America. Just look at Starship, SLS or New Glenn. I'm glad we have finally agreed that nations in Fallout are fully industrialized.
>>528147491Dragbody is like the Shadman of FNV modding
>>528234375BoS research, innovate, and manufacture technology in the very first game.
>>528235307>3s reason was it was a hell hole up until recentlySource? This is literally the first time I've ever heard of it.
>>528235315Off topic autist we arent discussing modern america
>>528147491Very nice, though the metal plates sticking out far in front of the Heavy Gunner's face look stupid.
>>528235173Well, that's how Bethesda is I guess
I still really wish we saw more actual nations, it's incredibly rare to see it touched on in post apocalyptic stuff.
>>528235512yeah I didn't notice that before without zooming in, I'll see if I can mention that to him
>>528235439Yeah we were talking about the industrial capabilities of nations in Fallout 2. You said that the Enclave "has issues making the most complexe technologies" and I was just point out where that puts them. You said people who think nations in Fallout can produce tanks, guns and artillery were "map-painting autists misinterpreting Fallout". Then you agreed that the Enclave could produce MUCH MUCH more than that. I'm glad we agreed that nations in Fallout are able to produce guns and artillery.
>>528235512It's all ww1 inspired and they had a lot of dumb shit back then
Funny enough Heavy Gunner with that face plate is probably my favourite of them all
>>528235393BoS doesnt know how to make verts until they are handed the plans by you.
>>528235435DC was resettled by people from outside because everyone died
Megaton started off as shelter from the dust storms in the area, it was inhospitable desert wasteland
>>528235812did not read your post fuck off autist
>>528236002>BoS doesnt know how to make verts until they are handed the plans by you.I didn't mention verts and neither did you in regards to BoS. They absolutely have the capability to produce pre-war tech; not literally anything but they make some stuff.
>>528235393in the og two games the Enclave was more advanced than the BoS. The BoS was not as innovative and knowledgeable as the Enclave and the Enclave is said to not be that great either in reality.
>>528236002Source? It all sounds like your just trying to fix Fallout 3 lore
>>528235937Ngl I don't think I'd even see this in WW1.
With something like that you'd assume his outfit is based off of an EOD suit or something.
It's also redundant too considering he has a metal face covering that's closer to his actual head.
>>528236167The Enclave wasn't in the first game and didn't exist as a concept. The comparison between the two is completely irrelevant.
>>528236115One i do not care you didnt, Two Ive been saying it the entire thread.
BoS had no idea how to maintain verts in Fo1 and 2. Enclave did, it took them awhile to learn this from the Enclave
>>528236002>DC was resettled by people from outside because everyone diedAnd he says New Vegas fans love headcanon.
>>528236302I don't care about Fo3.
>>528236267doesnt matter retard, BoS didnt know how to maintain Verts. Full stop. They are shocked in 2, that there is a faction that does.
Stop trying to weasel your way out of it autist.
>>528236115He is denying that the Enclave can make m1902s despite being forced to admit that they can make something literally called "advanced power armor" and disturbing this advanced power armor to most of their army.
>>528236401Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to say it in your native language
En hy sê New Vegas-aanhangers is mal oor headcanon.
>>528236405I am not talking about fo3 you intellectually disabled faggot esl
>>528236427I don't know why that matters or why you care about that specific point but I'm not someone that was arguing that they know anything about that.
>>528236430No im not. You are conflating different posters again because you are disabled.
You dont know the lore of APA. Stfu you fuckwit.
>>528236581Because the argument by mentally ill NV fags is this ridiculous idea that every faction can make anything
>>528236430>mostIt was neat that some Enclave guys got T51 in Fallout 2, implying that there was only enough Advanced Power Armor for the elite field teams
I wonder why that never came up again but I guess as a visual design cue the Good Guy Armor and Bad Guy Armor have to remain distinct
Of course all the model stuff is retcon on retcon, originally Power Armor was just Power Armor, although as early as Van Buren they were bouncing around the T45 concept
>>528236717>You dont know the lore of APAI know that the Enclave made it an wore it, after the bombs fell. Anything else is irrelevant. You'll duck the question but I'll ask again. Could the Enclave make artillery pieces if they wanted to?
Heres the lore on APA
>2198 Enclave works on various new technologies, including Power Armor variations. None of these are much of an improvement over the conventional old school Power Armor, and some are actually worse.
2215 Under Presidential Order, Enclave scientists begin to work on an upgraded version of Power Armor. Many prototypes are developed and tested.
2220 October Enclave scientists develop a reliable version of the Mark II Power Armor. The prototype results (and accidents... and explosions... and deaths) are classified by order of the President Richardson for the sake of morale."
So as we see the Enclave had trouble making the APA and the final product is actually faulty but that is covered up.
>>528235726Hope it goes well. If you're up for hearing a suggestion, I'd also say for Radtroopers to not be their own thing, and for Shotgun Trench Raiders to be removed since they're redundant (who is the NCR fighting that's building opposing trenches? +Assault troopers already existing)
>>528236717>Because the argument by mentally ill NV fags is this ridiculous idea that every faction can make anythingRight, I can see how that can be annoying. I think the context in which someone is proposing something like that is what makes that kind of thing interesting or valid. For example, The Frontier introduces obscene leaps in technology, and it sucks because none of it is sensible, earned, or grounded in the setting. It just flat out stinks in every way. On the other, you could easily tell a story/make a mod where something more advanced is introduced, with some reasonable justification, that is relevant enough to make up for how it contradicts what is previously known.
>>528236939Its because t51b is THE power armour and APA is power armour mk2.
>>528237126That sounds like they made it and they wore it after the bombs fell.
>>528237263This is the way
>>528236717>You are conflating different posters againWrong poster, A. that's me, and B. you're samefagging
>>528237126>October Enclave scientists develop a reliable version of the Mark II Power Armor.>and the final product is actually faulty but that is covered up.Oh, anon......
>>528236939>model stuff is retcon on retconIs it? In Fallout 1 there is a weapon called "Assualt Rifle" would it have been a retcon if Fallout 3 had two weapons like m-56 Assault Rifle and m-54 Assault Rifle? I mean I don't think an item being called the "X" implies there is only one type of X in universe, just that it is the only X in the sandbox.
>>528237180My issue is with, and i know exactly who they are, the people that think Fallout is no longer a post-apoc wasteland setting by the time of NV and after.
They look at the setting like the Old World Blues HOI4 mod. The Fallout world is full of hyper developed nations doing political stuff that closely follows 19th-20th century politics.
They keep wanting to push the setting forward. And use any evidence to falsely claim "and everything got better". Like imagine in their world people live in subrubs in the ncr and drive to work down ncr highways patrolled by NCR cops, its just soo fucking retarded and Avellone is right about the NCR needing to be destroyed because these people are insufferable
>>528236240It's the same as BF1, a design inspired by certain unique photos and armour from WW1 which were the exception rather than the rule
Like I said I personally love it
>>528237678The Old World Blues mod doesn't not allow for the production of artillery.
>>528237813Please reply intelligently or not at all
>>528237294yes.. retard.The point is they had trouble making it.
>>528237857Die Old World Blues mod laat nie die produksie van artillerie toe nie.
>>528237857Sorry did you not say there was a group of people obsessed with making 1900-2000s war happen in the Fallout Universe because they play OWB? Modern war is entirely reliant on artillery.
In 4 and 76 I love the idea of power armor but hate actually using it
You're just so much more mobile without it
The walking tank with a minigun thing is only satisfying to play in small doses, the meat of the game is always running around in relatively lightweight armor with a powerful automatic rifle
The differences are less severe in 3 and NV but it also sucks in NV just because the light armor perks are so good
>>528237965...but they did make it and it was after the bombs fell. Which means people can make new things after the bombs fell. Like did you know Mariposa from Fallout 1 was able to make motorized vehicles
>>528238024>>528237972Please for the love of god go see a shrink
>>528238147Getting tired, anon?
>>528238127Enclave do not equal all people. Why are you retards like this? you cant argue honestly.
The Enclave is one faction, that had issues building advanced things.
Again you dishonest lying faggot, the point isnt that people make new things. Its that the groups most capable, struggled to make somethings.
>>528237813NCR and some other nations get it as a unique focus
>>528238182you realise ive been just hiding your posts? Of course not you are mentally ill
>>528238385Why do you know this?
>just to prove the point all the tranny Hoi4 players out themselves
>>528238521Because I play OWB from time to time
>>528238385>>52823852199% of the shitposting itt is from OWB players that think their fanfic shit is canon
>>528238423And yet you replied, and continue to reply
>>528238735Yet you reply and continue to reply
>>528238820And I'm not claiming to hide any posts
Mine are infected your brain through your eyes, touching and squirming over it's crevices.
>>528238301>the point isnt that people make new things...but that's just a fact. I don't care if you want me to focus on it or now. Fallout 2 establishes new things can be made of the bombs fell. Actually Fallout: A post-apocalyptic RPG establishes that when Mariposa is making trucks. Would you like to tell me about the secret truck lore that changes the fact that people can make things?
>>528238891Getting tired faggot?
>>528238913This is a strawman, the argument never was "people cannot make things post war"
It's that not everything can be made post war by everyone.
You are just trying to support your headcanon
>>528239192You keep replying
>>528239070Nobody has said that the Dead Horses should be able to produce Artillery. I don't know exactly what others have said, but I have said that NCR should be able to make a concrete bunker instead of living in a pre-war ____ ______
>>528239318Pot calling the kettle black
>>528239440The funniest thing NCR/NV fags claim is that any of the buildings more advanced than a corrugated shed in the Mojave are made by them
>>528239882>Another outfit/recolor i can't haveTODD.
>>528239440Not a frontline camp
>State that Camp Golf is retarded and NV is retarded for having multiple times
>Keep getting called a NVfag
>Censor the words "golf course"
>Anti-development fag suddenly understand that there are multiple people other than him in the thread.
???
so we have pro-development fags confirmed. Go play sim city
>>528237678This is what happens when a fandom is starved of content, they start pushing fanon as canon. Fallout NV fans are basically starved of content, theres been no sequel to NV or a real new Fallout entry for 15 years according to them.
Besides mods and we know how that turned out with The Frontier. That was hyped up like an unofficial sequel to NV and it was just shit. It's not surprising it got a backlash.
We are at the point now where NV autists are just making up the sequel in their heads.
Societies will inevitably develop over time
I'm sorry this bothers you and makes you step out of your comfort zone as an African
Because africa is very developed compared to 60 years ago
>>528241104Oh no, Africa's lack of development is exactly why you're so mad
>>528241104y-yeah? Addis Ababa is a very different place compared to the 1980s, but again it's been 120 years between Fallout 1 and New Vegas. Compare Addis Ababa now to Addis Ababa from 1905.
>>528241032>>528241304You really are incapable of understanding how stupid you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHxh_sQHH0E
>>528241104>developedthat's just chinese setting up shop and building infrastructure in advance
>countries will always move forward developing
>uses africa as his example
>>528241412>he's proving my pointStop talking about yourself like that anon, I thought you were supposed to be some sort of le ebin trolleur
>>528241521He didn't though? He said development was out of an Africans comfort zone.
>>528241530I have had this theory for a long time you people that think Fallout should all be developed are asians. Because especially westernised asians cant really comprehend how anything can not be clean and maintained.
>>528241605Don't bother, he clearly has trouble understanding English
I'm surprised he actually has internet desu, you'd think that's something beyond your average African
>>528241605The existence of Africa proves this statement
>Societies will inevitably develop over timeincorrect.
Societies can go backwards. Hence the Fallout universe. It's more like Africa
>>528241689>be so intellectually disabled and an actual esl you destroy your own argumentYou are incapable of understanding you are not bright. Its real Dunning-Kruger.
>>528241760Shit I guess we better go back to the dark ages after the Roman Empire fell then
At the least the first thing you'll lose is your internet
Back to watching your family get raped by your nigger fellows in tribal wars
Oh wait, I suppose that happens every week for you, doesn't it?
>>528241778this is the shit that causes most of the arguments itt, Hoi4 trannies
...because the game with pride flags is based entertainment.
>>528241912im just laughing at you because you are obviously a severely mentally ill poltard. Obsessed with blacks and brain rotted to the core.
I'm neither from Africa or black, you know this, yet you continue acting like this convinced its trolling anyone but yourself.
>>528242128>doesn't have an answer to my post beyond insultsSad!
>>528242060>says the guy so mentally ill, he convinced himself anons itt are africans from SA>spammed the thread with dutch for an hour
>>528242234>anonsTruly? How quaint of a delusion you have.
>spammed the thread with dutchAnd here I thought you'd appreciate me speaking in your native tongue of Afrikaans.
>>528242232your post is just retard shit from a faggot brained retard.
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Not to put too fine a point on it for political shitflinging but the premier example is Russia, because over there the world ended in 1991, everything that still functions was built before 1991, everything gets slightly worse with each day that passes taking us farther away from 1991, and there have been numerous attempts to make new things post-1991 and every single one of them has in some way failed
There's thousands of planes from 1983 but they can't build new ones, they tried to make a new state of the art stealth fighter and there's literally like four of them
There's tens of thousands of tanks from 1972 but they can't build new ones, after a decade the new model has about two dozen failed prototypes
There's millions of rifles from 1974 but they can't build new ones, so I wonder where that puts them in relation to the Gun Runners and the NCR
There's an incredible giant nuclear powered battleship (built in 1980) and a thousand foot long aircraft carrier (just barely squeezed out of port in 1991) and these magnificent warships are barely afloat now while their shipyards couldn't hope to make anything today 1/10th their size
That's why slavs love Fallout so much
>>528242384Come on, think of something better.
Or is it that you can't? You're too tired to actually troll and now you're just saying insults?
How cute
>>528242373We both know i or no one itt understands afrikans. No one read it. You went to all that trouble and no one cared.
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>>528242431Addis Ababa 1960
>>528241778NCR got Hank'd, deal with it tranny
>>528242471Ngl Russia unironically hasn't had the time to recover from the Soviet Union's fall. That shit takes time.
>>528242484>keeps saying retarded shit>thinks anyone is being trolledi'm just laughing at you, you are an asspie.
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NCR 2241
>>528232425NCR 2281
>>528242471a lot of that isnt true though
>>528242617Come on, say something better
>>528242750no one that obsesses about this game actually gets it.
NCR only just recently moved in to the Mojave. Its the Borderlands of the NCR.
Everyone in the game is just squatting in prewar ruins
>>528242471US also can't build shit like they did in the cold war so niggers are worse than the collapse of the country
HERE IT IS AGAIN
MUUUUHHHHHH GOLF COURSE
>>528242471Russia produces guns though. Even if not as good as the USSR. In fact all post Soviet states produce SOMETHING
>>528242616They're too busy fucking over eachother
>>528242817the thing about dialogue kiddo, is it takes respect.
If you say stupid shit, no one respects you. You are autistic and off your meds, therefore retarded. Your posting is just stupid and no one cares,
>>528152778No, but this is.
>>528221772The Gun Runners, who are subsidized by the ncr, make all of their own equipment. They did that as far back as FO1 and it is what that group is famous for. The service rifle used by the ncr are new productions instead of pre-war, and so is most of their armor. The "black armor" used by the veteran rangers and the salvaged t-45 are the only pre-war armors used by them in new vegas. The ranger armor used by the ncr rangers (not the veteran/desert rangers) is also new and generally nicer than what the rank and file gets.
Their vertibirds are also new, as part of FO2's plot was providing the ncr with the schematics to produce them. They are an industrialized society, and I'm sorry that fact makes you so mad for some reason.
>>528242859As much as I don't want to agree with the golf course nigger, it HAS been several years.
They were about to actually start making concrete fortifications with Quarry Junction's limestone though, but the Powder Gangers put that and the railroad logistics on hold.
>>528243028According to J.sawyer service rifles are pre-war. like the survivalists one. They are not new productions made for the ncr.
>>528242927>In fact all post Soviet states produce SOMETHINGProduced*
A lot of it just can't find buyers as everything they produced was designed for the Soviets and they are too butthurt to trade with Russia
>>528242989my Nora is an experimental next-gen synth courser, she is capable of acting independently in the wasteland (but always to the benefit of the institute in some way). her skin stays clear for the entire playthrough.
>>528243098Gun Runners literally manufactured guns since Fallout 1
I don't give a shit what that faggot says
>>528243073why would it matter? a prewar ruin is already there prebuilt to be used as a fort.
>They were about to actually start making concrete fortifications with Quarry Junction's limestone thougIs there a source for that?
>>528243105>they are too butthurt to trade with Russianobody wants missile launcher systems that return their payload back to them rather than hitting target
even pajeets are moving away from it
>>528243098The designs were Pre-war
Point out the US IDs on those supposed pre-war Service Rifles then
The Survivalist's rifle has them, why wouldn't they?
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>>528242759There's functionally no T14 Armata tanks, no Su-57 Fifth Generation fighters, no AN94 or AK203 assault rifles and not a single ship larger than the dinky Gorshkov class frigates
Their backbone is literally materiel that's been sitting in warehouses for decades
And god the Kirovs are beautiful pieces of retrofuturism, the only nuclear powered battlecruisers left in the world, vast slabs of guns and missiles with a radioactive heart
>>528231821>>528232425The buildings look weird. They don't look prewar, but even still they look weird for post war, with no normal roofs. Are they sort imitating mud houses of the southwest natives or what?
>>528243239Her booba looks plastic too, but if she's a synth then it it all makes sense.
>>528243254Yes and no. The extent of their "manufacture" is exaggerated. They are refurbishing guns. Not printing guns like a 3d printer farm.
>>528243340>>528232787I wish there was more discipline to the Fallout idea that plastic was going extinct since that omnipresent shit is an oil byproduct
>rifles with wooden stocks>furniture all aluminum and leather>packaging all glass and cardboard
>>528243376They are Adobe mudhuts built prewar basically for some reason that is a mystery some fartout fags post to adobe mud hut buildings as ultimate proof the post war is actually highly advanced and developed.
>>528243352>There's functionally no T14 Armata tanksYou can remove the functionally from that. Anyway that's more than what the NCR produces in Fallout New Vegas, and SOMEBODY IS FREE to prove me wrong, but I don't think Russians are using Golf Courses for forts in Ukraine.
>>528243376Dogmeat is her handler (so is codsworth but only one has to accompany her at all times for the experiment to succeed), the boobs contain an emergency supply of protein shake, just in case she needs it.
>>528243497fuck off wooden gun fag, it was never a thing, go back to your dak slop. Stop pushing your retarded headcanon its not a fallout idea.
>>528243518>>528243537That's a weird choice. Did any F1 and 2 devs talk about why they choose that design?
>>528243558>Dogmeat is her handleI don't like the red rocket implications, anon...
>>528243339How iron dome working for you? lol
Why did I start typing a response to that post? Why am I so susceptible to bait?
>>528243660the choice is deliberate its suppose to look archaic, earthy and tribal, Adobe buildings are the oldest style building im human history
>>528243660it's nothing crazy, dogmeat simply carries a device which sends a signal to N.O.R.A's brain that gently reminds her what is the benefit of the institute (take out all the major powers in the wasteland and set up bases for institute to operate in).
>>528243731>thinks oil, which the US had plenty of, was in short supply
>>528243875Jesus fucking christ have you literally ever played a Fallout game
A defining part of the universe is that the oil is fucking gone
Don't give me "muh fracking muh oil sands" whatever because this isn't a logistics issue, it's a lore one. Just like cyborgs and FEV exist, in 2077 the oil is gone. The final productive oil well on earth is thousands of feet under the pacific ocean
>>528242989>smoking teddy backpackNeat.
>>528243518>that ENBhmmm.
>>528244131No it isn't this is completely incorrect headcanon and you are an idiot.
In the Fallout universe the USA has control of all the oil reserves. They have all the oil, why the fuck would they be on short supply of it? plastic exists in all of the games.
Your headcanon is garbage. This isn't lore at all. Full stop. Its fanon thats shit and dak is a retard,
>>528243661Funnily enough House was able to intercept 88.3% of the warheads fired at Vegas and Iron Dome is 65% to 90% effective so the numbers about match
>>528244131>>528243497Oil can be synthesized from plants, just like God did with that big rock 65 million years ago.
>There was no oil shortage in Fallout
It's bait, isn't it
It was all bait all the way down
A jerkoff wasting hours to make other people waste hours
>>528244325>Iron Dome is 65% to 90% effectiveJust no
It feels like these things don't work at all
>>528244418You dont understand the setting at all
>>528244418>There was no oil shortage in FalloutThat's not what he said.
>>528244430It feels like that to you because you don't like Israel and that means they're losing
That's also why the Axis won WW2, because you liked them better
sigh the issue with oil is crude oil is the easiest to refine, so cheapest to sell, plastic polymers are a by product of refining the oil into petrol or gas as amerosharts call it.
You can get these plastic polymers from bas and coal and other sources. Plastic the US is swimming in because they have all the crude oil reserves.
>>528244514>They have all the oil, why the fuck would they be on short supply of it?
>>528244545No, it's because we're finally seeing the iron dome in action and it's 10% efficient at best
>>528244678i have to further clarify the issue because dumbfucks will never get it, is PEAK OIL IS NEVER REAL IT DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST.
The issue is if theres a drop in supply of the EASY TO REFINE OIL the price goes up a bit WHICH HAS BIG ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS.
Ironically over time harder to refine oil would become easier, and the Fallout universe has no issue refining harder things because they have FUSION ENERGY
>>528244748yes? they have the oil, they can charge everyone else bullshit prices.
They have no shortage themselves. The resources wars were decades before 2077
>>528244791No point in wasting missiles to intercept crap hitting the desert
>Oil shortages have been a literal staple of Fallout lore literally since the intro of the very first game
>Actually there can be no oil shortage in US!
>>528244854not interested in discussing how realistic peak oil is in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
>>528244791>shoots down virtually all 150 missiles in irans first salvoyou poltards are cute, you are loke the Supreme Reader of Iran saying Israel was now really feeling the hurt because one missile hit an empty hospital
>>528244545>Assuming anyone who doesn't like Isreal is right wingDid he miss the last year?
>>528245031The entire plot of the build up to fallout is basically the peak oil conspiracy theory/myth. That leftists believe unquestioningly like global warming
>>528245024the oil fields drying up in texas motivated the US to annex Canada and Mexico to secure more oil.
They also claimed all the oil in the pacific and probably everywhere else besides any within china.
This motivated china to invade Alaska because the US had hemmed them in.
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>>528245180Peak oil happened in Fallout even if you believe it doesn't exist in real life
This is a very simple statement and I'm actually getting angry that people ITT can't parse it
You don't get to argue the Word of God storyline shit because next you can just go "Who says The Master and his mutants even existed? Some jet addicts in Boneyard probably made him up"
>>528245304Note once again that the oil wells started dying in the 2050s but by 2077 every oil well on earth is tapped out except for Poseidion Control Station
>>528245320sorry pol, i just have a good feeling about these guys, they are destroying one of the most powerful regimes in the world effortlessly
>>528245024>>528245443Yeah. In fact it need requires there to not be an oil shortage in the US. China can't invade a country with no oil for oil.
>"...in the 21st century war was still waged over the resources that could be acquired. Only this time the spoils of war were also its weapons. Petroleum and Uranium for these resources China would invade Alaska..."Take that back to what you said in
>>528244131>The final productive oil well on earth is thousands of feet under the pacific oceanAlaska is not thousands of feet under the pacific ocean, so you are wrong.
>>528245443No you dont understand the very concept of peak oil is never real in any timeline.
You think of it as
>running out of oilThe issue is running out of cheap oil.
Look at this way, liquid crude oil you pull it out of the ground, put it in a barrel and sell it. Its that easy. Its liquid gold.
Less liquidly oil has to be put in a refinery and processed.
Resources wars are a different thing and are decades before the current events of 2070-77
this guy doesnt get it. the only reason its implied oil is in a "shortage" during the resources wars, was existing oil reserves dried up. Just subtracting one major oil reserve because of war or it drying up would seriously effect global supply and price
This does not mean there are not other reserves and there cant be more found.
Thats exactly why peak oil myth failed because people found more oil. They keep finding more oil too
Should I install NV or Fallout 4?
NV is definitely the better game, but I've played it plenty and haven't played Fallout 4 much
>>528245929>>528245681It should be relatively easy to hit peak oil somewhere like Luna or Ceres. I don't understand how can you can accept small scale energy positive fusion, but you can't accept an alternative Earth have a worse resource distribution.
Of course this is all hypothetical. Fallout 1's intro confirms the USA had good oil reserves.
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>>528245504>>528245681>>528245929>January 11, 2073. Today's top story on GNN. In a financial coup, the US managed to be the first to tap the world's last remaining supply of oil. Until recently, this reserve was thought to be unattainable due to the deposit being located thousands of feet beneath the surface of the Pacific Ocean. With the world's supply of oil nearing depletion, a race to be the first to create a method to extract this deposit ensued. We at the GNN are proud to announce that US is the first to do so and thus claim the oil as property of the United States. Way to go US!>China cries foul as news of the success circulates around the globe. According to President Xin of China, their drilling platform project was scheduled for completion months before the US project, however the Chinese platform had a string of unfortunate accidents delaying their project significantly. President Xin is also quoted in saying that he has definitive proof that the US was behind the sabotage of their oil platform and formally requests that an international panel be appointed to investigate.>Fallout 2, Sierra Depot holotape
>>528245968the only thing that mildly interests me would be America Rising 2 for Fallout 4
zero reason to install it otherwise
>but Miamivaporware
>F4NVdead in the water
>Londonboring and railroaded, half finished to boot
Oil shortage is quite realistic when you start accounting for the insane over consumption with every household having a personal robot butler
>>528246146I've played it twice and there's nothing else to do there, a very linear and simple game
>>528246072because the idea the US has no oil and therefore no plastic is stupid and makes no sense.
You are just a wood fetishist.
You could have said why doesn't Fallout use bakelite, the plastic before plastic
>>527764995 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLstVs2EnI
Clever they put gold scraps in a porta potty.
>>528246195...so Fallout 2 contradicts Fallout 1 and is retarded while doing so? Actually rather, the omnipotent narrator said the thing in Fallout 1, so I think I'll trust him over some state sponsored news station.
>>528246337>because the idea the US has no oil and therefore no plastic is stupid and makes no sense....but why? If there was a civilization on Mercury they wouldn't have oil, and that makes sense.
>You are just a wood fetishist.I haven't mentioned wood.
>>528246535>there was a civilization on Mercury they wouldn't have oil, and that makes sense.i'm sire this sounded smart in your head
>>528246582Explain why it's wrong.
funny how the poltard nword ran out of steam. Just like nazi germany
>>528246337>why doesn't Fallout use bakelitewell it does actually
>>528247626Deutschland didn't run out of steam they hit peak oil I think.
>>528248812why isnt bakelite everywhere as a material then? If Bethesda wanted to go full retro they should have made all plastic looking items bakelite.
Honestly the games would look gorgeous if they had as much eye to detail and accuracy as Alien Isolation
>>528245968>NV is definitely the better gameIs it? Is it really?
If I have to listen to Nora or Nate even one more time I'm going to fucking fax todd howard an ascii penis
>>528246256And what does new vegas have?
>>528250462gajilion quests that integrate within base game without much trouble
Nova Arizona, Zion Trail, Dry Wells
also TTW
Fallout 4 has a few quest decent spoopy quest mods but other than that it is mostly focused on settlement and waifi shit a.k.a Sims 4
>>528251095>Nova ArizonaYeah if you hate Ceasers Legion but want a Legion expansion for some reason.
>>528252003>more legion people to kill>why would one want to install itit is a mystery
>>528252501I don't know I would prefer the legion to be competent, so killing them makes me feel cool.
Problems with Bethesda Fallouts:
They removed the old Special and skill and perks system for 4.
Dumped down dialogue system and voiced MC for 4.
No aiming down sights for 3
They think that dead and gray wasteland makes sense and is good worldbuilding (at least in 4 they added some farms here and therer). I think that's one part where they did better in 76 - it's less of a grey wasteland. But maybe they fear to use that because people now associate Fallout with this.
Also, writing is generally just poor, especially for main quests and factions.
I understand parkour isn't a thing in the base games so it leaves an easy place to explore for a mod, but by god mod makers need to understand parkour in these engines isn't fun. I can only guess they assume you'll quicksave before every jump.
>>528256868>They removed the old Special and skill and perks system for 4.It's literally the same system as Fallout 3 and NV with a few minor changes, it looks like something serious but in reality it's not that big of a deal
>Dumped down dialogue system and voiced MC for 4.And still Fallout 4 has far more choices in quests than Fallout 3, limiting it to just four answers is pretty silly but it's still an improvement over Fallout 3 which rarely even had three answers
>They think that dead and gray wasteland makes sense and is good worldbuilding (at least in 4 they added some farms here and therer).You should have paid more attention when playing Fallout 4, a lot of locations are ruins of cities and settlements founded after war.
>>528257363>It's literally the same system as Fallout 3 and NV with a few minor changes, it looks like something serious but in reality it's not that big of a dealDon't change what's not broken.
>a lot of locations are ruins of cities and settlements founded after war.I am taking more about the natural environments, not buildings.
>>528257363>It's literally the same system as Fallout 3 and NV with a few minor changesIt's literally the same system but with half of it removed and iconic things like Terrifying Presence removed.
Ironically, with Bethesda trying to dumb shit down in Fallout 4, they made it more complicated by having to go through and read that block of perks. Fallout 3/NV's format was much simpler, and more preferable.
>>528257362parkour in the ue5 obliv remaster is fun
>>528257480>Don't change what's not broken.Fallout 3 (and any other fallout game) system was pretty broken, Fallout 4 system is least broken
>>528257550>but with half of it removedAll the effects of the skill were just turned into perks, you can add the skills back into Fallout 4 and not much changes
>iconic things like Terrifying Presence removedIt wouldn't make it into Fallout 4 anyway. And Fallout 4 added quite a few good new perks. Technically Intimidation has the same function (and more) as Terrifying Presence
>>528258636Isn't the only non-dialoged special/perk check in the Robot Boat quest?
>>528258790Yes
I meant that both of these perks have roughly the same idea. Intimidation is probably even better because Terrifying Presence is literally a meme perk with no real utility
I'm playing a different rpg. I can't imagine the skills being changed to a set of binary yes/nos you just have. Fallout 3 was right speech checks should be a % chance. Fallout NV was wrong on that, shame about the rest of 3
i just realized that her cheeks were too gaunt, fixed that issue and now she is perfect!
>>528261406She's hot. I want to break her knees with a tire iron and rape her.
>>528266381>"There must still be a McDonald's someplace."
>>528263925>>528266381why does she have such a fat fucking face
>>528251095>Zion TrailNot for everyone but it rules ass. Rita's Cafe is one of the best towns in any Fallout game.
The Enclave used to produce intelligence boosted, talking Cyberdogs and Deathclaws, very sexy.
The NCR lives in a golf course, very sad.
>>528277483all the funnier that they lost
>>528277918The Enclave lost to the Fallout 2 NCR. The Fallout 2 NCR didn't live in golf courses, because Fallout 3 hadn't come out and made it so no good fallout could be made ever again.
>>528278048at least we agree Fallout 3 is the worst game ever made. The source of all our problems today
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>>528241778>NCR WONMexico won. I fucking hate that my puppet inherited my color 1:1. It makes it hard to distinguish that beautiful Mexico I painted hiding in there.
>>528278571I never played these games before but I bought HoI4 just to play OWB and had zero clue what was going on and got stomped. Can you recommend any videos or anything or should I just play the regular game and go through its tutorials or something?
i am disrespectful towards dirt!
>>528278048What the hell do you want the NCR to do? The Nevada area is a new frontier. Why waste resources when what's already there is useable? You have the wrong image of how an army operates. They typically just go with whatever works.
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>>528279426No. It's been too long. I could probably write the basics if you knew how to navigate the menus, and do basic army assignment, because that stuff is better shown then told, and I remember hoi4 videos being a cluster fuck of too much information.
I wonder how they are going to change heavy weapons. Maybe a focus on non vats?
>>528282046How long do you think it takes to make a fort? The NCR has had enough time. The Nevada side of Colorado should be in the process of turning into the Atlantikwall. Why was Hitler building forts after invading France he should have been using Golf Courses.
>>528283009wait is this whole obsession just because they house some of their forces at Camp Golf? You know they're there just because of the resort building being utilitarian infrastructure right? Those forces are positioned to be distributed to the Dam or to the bases nearer to the Colorado, it's not meant to be a defensible position
>>528283529I hope you get raped on a golf course, you piece of shit, since you love golf courses so much.
>>528283529Of course not every base needs to be hardened, but isn't Camp Golf right across the street from Lake Mead, across which is where Ceaser's personally is?
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>>528283893lmao I hope Cook-Cook himself gets a hole in one on me anon
>>528283928kind of not really? the dam is right there, and two ranger camps to support it along with the ruins of Boulder City. North is Camp Guardian which would be easy to surpass maybe, given it's been overrun by Mirelurks, but at the same time the Legion would have to contend with those? If the Mirelurks wiped out the NCR soldiers that easily I guess it's even worse for the Legion to contend with. Past that is another Ranger station as well, and the forces at Bitter Springs, but if the Legion pushed past there then the Golf forces would have to meet them, yeah. Camp Mccarran is directly west and easily reinforces the area, however.
I found the real life Mr fantastic.
>watching NASA documentary
>old astronaut describes how he got his job
>"so i graduated with an advanced degree in chemistry. I called the HR lady and asked if they had any jobs for chemistry, she said no, but that they did need people for something called "energy systems". I asked her what that was, and she said she wasn't sure and that the description was vague"
>"so I say "my degree is in chemistry, I know all about energy systems, she said "then you have a job"
>>528283928>>528284513You and I are forgetting that Fallout has play spaces that are MASSIVELY scaled down from what they are in lore. That's Lake New Vegas Camp Golf is next to it is roughly 10 miles to Oberlink Island, and substantially more to get to land in Arizona, not to mention most of the Arizona shore line is a rocky hell hole. In my fanfiction that exists in my head, Ceasers Legion has artillery equivalent to WWI Bulgaria we know they are far less advanced than this in the game, but even taking my fanfiction if they were on *somehow* on Oberlink island with their longest range guns they could not hit Camp Golf.
>>528294415I didn't forget; there just isn't much use in considering that specific point in this context. I agree with everything you said, though.
Slightly related, the game would be massively improved if it was scaled up by 10 times or so, being ~80sq miles instead of 8. Very obviously that would take a monumental amount of effort to adapt and fill in and redesign the whole game, but still.
GOOOOLLFFFF COURRRRSEEEEEEEE!!!!
>>528279426https://youtu.be/x1OYc4gaxg0?si=D3KEJx03mbvNqSlO
But in general just google anything you don't understand as you play
>>528232169>>528232979Nah. We already know at least from 4's and 76s depiction of mushroom cloud (and series as whole seeing how radiation is still prevalent even at the time) that he bombs used were low yield "dirty" bombs, designed to spread radiation as effectively as possible and were about 1/170 of the power of Little Boy (54 TJ) putting them just under one TJ required for the blast but leaving as mush radioactive particle as possible.
>Finally a good version of that rifle from Fallout 1
Fuck, maybe I should just install Fallout 4
>>528298378the colt rangeGOD got me through the early game of 1 and 2
>>528267167i actually have the hamburger mod installed, she could just go to diamond city and order a burger with a pepsi.
>>528267793her face isn't fat, it's soft and beautiful.
>>528298671No more burgers for her please, treadmill now.
>>528298671Get some hair mod, Fallout 4 faces are fine but hair is just awful
>>528289920Dr. Fantastic also has theoretical degree in Hegelian Dialectics.
>>528298671It's too wide, unnaturally so, looked better before.