Showing off da goods Edition

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reminder that monsters are bitch-made and Captain Strong could kill Officer Undyne with his bare hands

>>527882039 (OP)
half the links in the OP are broken retard

plap the gote

How do we save Tenna...

>>527882205
Click on the links you idiot

>>527882205
Which ones specifically

so im going down to the convenience store to grab a 4 pack of beer and some chips
do you anons want anything?

>>527882214
Rewire the boywire

Kris is just tsundere and actually enjoys the possession

My greatest hope for weird route is that we get a scene where Susie is to us through both Noelle and Kris in a three-way conversation and getting gaslit because she doesn't know that we exist (let alone that we're in control of both of them)

Wowie. I'm in this thread now. Hi guys.

>>527882561
i knew it

Robert "Toby Fox" Fox

Interesting guy.
Wish we knew more about him

>>527882598

>>527882452
genuinely adorable!

>>527882639
I couldn't bring myself to let him get hurt on genocide route. When he was like "hey kid what's with the piece" I let him go.
Is it possible for him to die? It looked like he could maybe fall into the lava or whatever the environmental hazard was there.

>>527882372
Nvm turns out it's just the twitlonger and pastebin embeds are dead on firefox for some reason
https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

My apologies

>>527882652
genuinely adorable!

>>527882452
>>527882864

>>527882904
Mo just sorta leaves no matter what option you pick. He's alive in every route. This is because he is the best character.

>>527859657
Didn't expect anyone to bother to repost my drawing here
I'm flattered
That way I'll draw one request if it's cool enough

>>527882652
He looks like a high school friend of mine who's now an opioid addict

>>527883004

>>527859657
>>527883097
>Susie x (you)/soul
wait a minute... this is kino... why hasn't anybody done this before?

>>527882315
Oh god, blue Addison is feeding up Tenna now

Made an edit.

>>527882452
mammy tenna

Oh by the way I haven't seen anyone mention the state of bear theory since the new chapters, how does it hold up???

Anyone have a throuple ship with Asriel and Chara and dess

>>527883302
It's been set up. She's interested in us. We will win the Susiebowl.

>>527883004
>>527882452
Very cute. Love this. Saving this. Genuinely adore this au. Maybe as good as momdyne.
However, I must say Catty's mom is looking REALLY hot in the second image

>>527883463
Hey now, don't misunderstand me here. I'm not gonna cuck Kris. We're gonna be a throuple or nothing.

Ralsei blazing a chunky roll
Ralsei puffin' on a thick log
Ralsei chiefing a tree trunk
Ralsei ripping a monster blunt
Ralsei sparking up a big boy
Ralsei burning a loaded wrap
Ralsei roasting a cannon
Ralsei getting lit with a king-size

>>527882315
There is no saving Tenna, his dick will be eviscerated now

if darkworld being a thing becomes common knowledge it's gonna get messy
think about how many people will start opening them just to see how would their own darkworld look like
furthermore, think about how much people would visit castletown, and how many new darkners would have to go live down there
not even mentioning how much property is gonna be lost because they're gonna be repurposed as living furry bait

So is the only difference between the /vg/ threads and the /v/ threads that everyone here is incredibly gay for ralsei?

>>527883339
TVs can't get fat, that's impossible!

6 TwinRibbon is hilarious now with chapters 3+4

>>527883380
into the folder it goes

>>527883862
NO. we are also gay for other characters.

>>527883895
It overflows and makes your TP go down lmao?

Baa Bää Båå
I want to be a baa

>>527883862
This place is a lot more chill on average than your average /v/ thread.

>>527884086
Why is Ralsei Norwegian. Has Ralsei been Norwegian this entire time and we just didn't notice

>>527884000
Actually each TwinRibbon is now -25% TP gain with the new chapters. So 6 of em = you lose TP with each graze
You still win money even with negative TP btw

>>527882652
How tall is Toby?

Police sacrifice, just a week away!

>>527884290
anemia type art

>>527883278

Has Ralsei ever been depicted with a tail by any official art? Have any of the Dreemurr family?

>>527884463
you understand that you are asking people to post porn with this reply right?

>>527884463
SAY IT WITH HIM FOLKS
__
(___) _____'_
_!_!
____!

Fucking retarded delivery guys couldn't find my address, now I'm gonna have to reorder my new laptop again after they refund me. Hate when bothersome shit like this happens and you have to do extra legwork out of nowhere.

>>527884541
I said official though?

for some reason I've been getting more and more into plump ladies and guys
not into full on fat people, just, people with a little something something
you get me?

OI LUV SPOT ON JOB GETTIN THA S RANK

So to what extent objects are "alive" when there are no Dark Fountains around? For example, we say some secret phrase to Rudinn, and tell him to say it while in the Light World, then we extract him from the Dark world, and hand him to Courier #1. We then do the same to Pippins in another Dark World. Courier #1 and Courier #2 meet in the light world, then play make-believe where the playing card "whispers" something to the dice. Then couriers return and hand us respective objects. Couriers themselves don't know the secret phrase. If then we ask Pippins in his Dark World, would he "know" the secret phrase now?

>>527884678
>Filename
You saved that pic a while ago, anon. Maybe you've always been like this

>>527884576
aw I'm sorry anon!

>>527882151
The legendary Dreemurr doebreak technique

>>527884762
CAM ON KRISSY
'AVE SOME FACKING FUN

>>527884463
Asriel has a tail in the official 5th anniversary art. If Toby had an autistic rule against it then this probably wouldn't have made it.

>>527884841
I mean I have these saved but I think this is too big for me to really be into.
I've been getting really into the slightly_chubby tag.

>>527885067
>ruining the best thing about noelle
just fuck cathy already if you want a slampig jesus

>>527883463
>>527883634
The Fun Gang is just (Our) harem

>>527885067
>Slightly_chubby tag
god it's so funny every time I see that tag, and just how wildly varied the sizes get there, pretty sure I've seen small girls tagged 'Morbidly_obese'

ok i just saw loli pauline in the new donkey kong game
i just preordered that shit real quick

>>527885134
You guys really focusing on them when the most attractive man is RIGHT here?

>>527883460
Yes if you swap Chara with Kris.

>>527885339
I have no idea who this forced meme is

>>527884678
>you get me?
Mayhaps

>>527885339
wow a fat racoon furry how original

>>527884086
>>527884219
ralsei is swedish

>>527882315
Tenna molestation begins NOW!

>>527885438
too shota for me, sorry

Fellas whenst is Rouxls Kaard gonna fight a titanst ande doth somethinge useful fore onceth heth hast The moste op abilitye of all heth Cannot beth this useless.

I wonder how many of you are both tvfags and puppetfags, they have a lot of overlap.

>"Happy Holidays"
>none of the Holidays are Happy
BRAVO TONIO THE TRICKSTER YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN

>>527885370
>>527885462
Oh well. More for me!

>>527884678
T levels rising

(you) won’t do anything bad once you get (you)r vessel back, will (you)?

>>527886072
I mean being worse than the knight sounds fun

>>527885525
Stop this slander right now!

>>527885336
Mike, is this real?

>>527883460
>UT Asriel was best friends with a misanthropic sperg who called herself "the demon who comes when people call its name" and tried to start a race war by eating flowers
>DR Asriel was dating a brutish tomboy who calls herself "the roaring knight" and is trying to start the apocalypse
he sure knows how to pick em...

Doughelle is based

>>527886165
what did you just say about my mama

My vacation is over, my unjust sentence for posting doebutt has been served, and this fic is now finished

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66519970/chapters/171564676#workskin

>>527886241
i hate fat people

>>527886241
>on the cross country team

>>527886241
Soff

If Asriel came home bringing his date who's a human wearing Frisk's shirt I'd kneel so hard my knees would break through the floor

pick one

>>527882598
Hey yeah wtf why didnt Ramb have a shop potrait.

>>527886572
i pick ralsei

>>527886572
...can I pick Swatch instead?

>>527886572
who the hell is the one on the right?

dumping all my seed into noelle either way tho

:p

post your coolest Krises

>>527886679
based

>>527882039 (OP)
Someone edit crosshairs onto this.

>>527886679
canon
also pretty fucking weird how noelle and beardly don't get neon designs when they travel to the dark world
literally unplayable

>>527886751

I know what happen to Dess.
She said a swearword and that was such a big No-No that Gaster sent her to the Shadow Realm.

>>527886751
Sorry, i only got hot krises
because their covered in fur

:p x2

>>527886572
where are my charabros at

>>527886751
here you go

>>527886572
Chara, then I rape her forever

>>527886907
this art but noelle is choking on kriss cock

>>527886907
nice drawing anon!

>>527886907
Me on the right

>>527887183
Kris is so autistic

>>527886572
>Fem Kris instead of Frisk
Meh.

>>527886923
(yum yum) uhh haha no idea *BUURP* =)

>Tenna is mortified at the idea of getting trashed
>even in this "considerate" moment, Spamton calls him [Trash heap]
>Spamton also fully aware Tenna will die very soon
They should STAY divorced forever because Tenna deserves WAY better. I fucking love toxic yaoi

>>527886539
>Dess gets purified and de-Knighted
>Asriel comes home with a random human gf

>>527883634
Nonono, we can choose to cuck Noelle or not but we WILL cuck Kris Kris has been a classmate jerk like the rest of them before the game

>>527887394
Ralsei literally looks exactly like Kris's brother, that cannot be healthy in any way.
It's as if Noelle fell in love with someone exactly like her big sister, it would be weird and... oh wait

>>527886072
I think it would be very funny to do all the Snowgrave stuff and then upon regaining your Vessel, you just stop being an asshole because you're not forced to be a parasite in some strange kid anymore.

Okay, where did the Dess is the soul theory even pop up from?

>>527886794
target locked

>>527886751

>>527887445
Gay sex will fix this

Do you like battles, anon?

I love this

>>527887848
TENNA SIDE PROFILE YEAHHHHHHHH

The ship everyone has been sleeping on...

Fellas why didn't Kris rip us out in the weird route in Noelle house, is Kris stupid?

Ralsei will go through a dramatic shift to an attack-oriented moveset using fire magic while his healing takes a backseat, finally making him swap roles with Susie and finally letting Papyrus accomplish his dream of owning a store that sells flames.

>>527887861
Fuckin Noelle is the Knight but the Knight has Carol horns so idk

>>527888017
He literally did retard

YOU SPEEN ME RIGHT ROUND BIBLE RIGHT ROUND LIKE A SHADOW CRYSTAL RIGHT ROUND ROUND ROUND

>>527887709
Some people really hate the idea of the player being an important part of the narrative, so they're reaching for an in-universe character the SOUL could be controlled by instead.

>>527886751

>>527887892
what’s the reference here

>plugboy shop owner who manages old video games
huh

>>527888081
i think he means after we re-enter kris

>>527886907
Magik

What are the names of these fellas i forgot.

>>527888081
Nah, not while the whole choice shenanigans were happening I think Kris is Retarded

>>527888043
>Fighting the titan finally activated Ralsei's bloodlust
>He's even more brutal than Susie at the start of Chapter 1, and you need to warn enemies about him before he fucking burns them to death
Do it
Give me the murder goat

>>527887892
>Of course. Games are fun

>>527888017
>Kris ripping (Us) out right in front of Noelle
>Risking Noelle coming in direct contact with (Us)

>>527888227
The "You Have To Do This No Matter What Route" Brigade

>>527886751
Visible Kris eyes....

>>527883380
Mr dreeeemurrr

>>527888156
Everhood 2
Shade, that black guy, seems to be behind everything in the game, and he is. But instead of some overarching scheme he just likes playing dress-up and doing battles
https://youtu.be/1Aa4iNbyKVQ?si=E4u7ucRTGVBdNb0-

>>527888227
nobody cares about your OC fanon characters, post official deltarune characters instead bitch

stuck writing my gerson green
when it's not porn I keep stopping every 2 lines thinking "why would you read this"

>>527888227
Sweet, Cap'n, and K_K

>>527887487
monsters are built for fucking/being fucked by humans after all

>>527888260
Kris doesn't rip out their soul in front of other people. Noelle was right there. Think for a second before posting.

>>527888379
>Do you know who ate all the [Hyperlink blocked]

>>527884295
1'3"

chat is this real

>>527888360
Would it really be that bad, considering the other option is what happened in the route you can't change my mind Kris is retarded

>>527888585
the original route

>>527887487
>Goolly, how's it going, Kris? This is my girlfriend, Chara. She's a human just like you!

>>527888449
GERSON PORN GREENTEXT?!
KEEP GOING ANON I BELIEVE IN YOUUU

>>527888438
Roaring Knight if Toby Fox locked the fuck in.

>>527883097
Your suser looks so cute

>>527888635
no, like
it's not porn
it's what I'm saying
"who even reads non-porn greens"

>>527888719
Who left susie in the dryer too long she's so small

>>527888203
>>527888260
It's pretty clearly implied that kris has less control over the vessel than the soul most of the time. He can overpower the soul sometimes, but not always and doing so weakens him

>>527888697
>

I want this to become real

>>527888807
Ah, damn that's makes sense

>>527888227
Forgettable

>>527886751

>>527888835
>"okay then show me how it's done then smart guy"
>cut to black
>pic related but with Kris missing a chunk of arm

>>527887985
You're onto something.

>>527887985
Alphys that's your teenage student

>>527889090
Just like in her Japanese animes

>>527888227
Homestar, Homsar and Eh' Steve

>>527888835
this guy’s winning the “SFW artist with the most porn coded artstyle ever” award

>>527888635
goddamn he's hitting that shit

Susies smelly ________

>>527889441
breath

>>527884857
Thanks Ralseifag

>>527889228
If berdly laid an egg why is kris the bride

>>527888876
for added context, noelle talks about how kris acts when he's not possessed:
>* ... Kris, your voice, your deadpan, mumbly voice...
>* Even if you sounded kind of weak and shaky...
He constantly lurches and shakes without the soul unless he's being watched too

>>527889441
egg farts

>23 Dec 2022
How did they know?
Jewish Ralsei canon?

>>527889582
Kris left the egg in Berdly's bed as a prank

>>527889441
yeah, she is

>NO smoothies, only smoochies...
gay af starting a snowgrave route

>>527887574
Why? That's exactly how it works in the animal kingdom. Species you're sexually attracted to is determined when you grow up with siblings of the said species.

Berdly will become the deltarune equivalent of AVGN

>>527889586
So... what do y'all (you all) think is up with Kris? Did he never have a soul to start with or did he lose it?
Has he tried to behave normally around others for all his life?

Notice how no one has said anything good about Dess. She's probably pretty evil. Which is why Noelle has such a high tolerance for Kris's acts

>>527886751

>>527889797
dude the AVGN already exists in Deltarune, were you not paying attention in the basement? Noelle literally references him and his Board James 'Mr.Bucket' videos

>>527886751

>>527889875
Some kinda fucked up experiments in the Shelter

>>527887709
Schizos. The chain of thought was: Dess is a human => SOUL is a human SOUL => SOUL is Dess. That's despite seeing Dess' silhouette in Tenna's flashback.

>>527889797
no, he’s Scott the Woz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9A4dZde-BI

was that the knight of 87!?

>>527889794
Westermarck effect thoughever
Kris being into monsters is normal (and canon), Kris being into someone who looks exactly like Asriel might be weird
But Kris doesn't even think Ralsei looks like Asriel so

>>527889797
Who would be the deltarune equivalent of TheSonicSegaGamer

>>527889875
Noelle talks about noticing that Kris has changed "recently". The cage and blood stain already existed at the start of the game so it's not possible that possession started when the game started, but it likely was only briefly before that.
If Kris didn't sound "weak and shaky" as a child, then he probably was able to sustain himself - most likely by having his own soul. At some point something probably happened to lose or displace it, potentially related to the dark worlds and his arrangement with the knight.

>>527890179
lmao

>>527886213
there certainly is a running theme of "doormats who are too kind doing things for the sake of strong-willed violent types" in UTDR huh

>>527889797
Alphys becomes the equivalent of Dogseatingdogs6
>MEW MEW TRIPS AND GRABS HER BOOB! LAAAAAAAAME!

>>527889875
Summoned a demon, obviously.

>>527886751

>>527890224
Read Westermarck Debunked

>>527888227
ed edd n eddy
>BRUIHGLEARGH

>>527889875
Kris and Catti actually did summon something when they were trying to do occult rituals, it just wasn't a demon that they made contact with.

The deltarune equivalent of Mr.Anime

>>527889794
Wrong. A flamingo seperated from its family as an egg will recognize its real family and mate with its adoptive family.

sUOHul

>>527890224
Kris is into the Goat Boss Monsters (whatever monster subspecies Dreemurrs are).

>>527890504
?

kris is evil, she tries to manipulate noelle in not wanting to be stronger. put back the thorn and undo the manipulation

we’re acting like the vessel won’t be yellow skinned, brown haired, and have a sweater based on their favorite color.

>>527890416
This. He summoned us, SOULs, ANGEL, whatever the game wants to box us in.

As for before, I'm in the Kris is a Vessel who got "colored in" camp. He knows a little too much about how we can make choices or not

>>527890727
he was asking you to read his reply, anon

Deltarune is a direct prequel

>>527889875
they did never had a soul, they are a goner made in meat factory

Where does the Fun Gang fall on this chart?

||I think they couldn't intuit the mechanics of the death note but they COULD solve the Kira case||

>>527888697
I WOULD READ, GERSON WOULD TOO

>>527890661
>>527889794
The reality is this is a complex topic and taking any one animal to say "this is how it'd apply to humans" ends up fallacious because behavior varies a lot between species.
The best thing to do is go by human experience, which is that some (a lot) of people would absolutely fuck anthros if they were attractive enough. We're broadly attracted to "humanoids" especially those with brains/behavior similar to us. Kris growing up around anthros wouldn't guarantee they're not attracted to humans, but their general aversion toward humans for whatever reason would obviously be a factor in not developing sexual relationships with other humans in the first place unless they managed to cross that barrier.

https://youtu.be/8J05o90Su38?si=H-p-8t7v0zeIXNqU
Dess and Asriel as kids

>>527890943
...

>>527890943
>forgot image
>fucked up spoiler tags
Man im good at this

The jerma of deltarune....

>>527890857
deltarune is both a prequel, sequel, parallel universe, alternate universe and standalone all at once. there is 5 dimensional shit going on and gaster poked a hole through it with his dick

>>527891132
>>527890943
discordkek...

>>527887394

Dess ruined them

Kris is a SOULless Vessel and Dess gave him her SOUL. Hence Carol being soft on him. Kris summoned our SOUL so we can either eventually do the same to save Rudy using our SOUL so he lives, or, with our combined powers, to get strong enough to change destiny

>>527891132
whenever i see this image im just like “wow, i want to put Harry Du Bois, Brent Halligan, and Problem Sleuth in the same room just to see what happens”

>>527891203
deltarune and undertale exist at the same time. screencap this

>>527891126
cute!

>>527891203
I think the egg stuff is alluding to quantum fuckery too

did you try undertale? it's the earthbound zero of deltarune

if kris were to jerk off, would they be the one in control or us (SOUL)

>>527891339

>>527890975
Monsters are not anthros, tho. There's planes, there's quadrupeds, etc.
(picture unrelated)

i want less goat kris more deer kris, that motherfucker belongs to the HOLIDAY family

Burgerpants will get a cute bunny bf and no one can stop him

>>527891541
This meme but add Homestuck as a prerequisite for Undertale

>Noelle wants to find and save her sister
>Susie wants to beat the shit out of Noelle's sister
>Kris is secretly working with Noelle's big sister
This is why Kriselle is the endgame and Susie will be the final boss and get beaten and then Kris and Noelle will smooch

Qrd on Baby Kris?

I think Sans Undertale and Sans Deltarune are 2 separate characters but they swapped places at some point

Why does tenna's talk font sounds like AGO BO BA YA GO BA BO BO GA GA GA YA BO

>>527891970
i would never beat susie

>>527891915
Homestuck is more of an obvious Deltarune inspiration than it is an Undertale one

>>527892023
push down his soft spot

>>527888227
all i remember about them is that it was shittiest music so far in game

>>527890947
this anon filled me with determination

Does ralsei has any interaction to seeing toriel at all? Considering they are the same species.

>>527892061
What if Kris married Susie and turned her into a tradwife and then Kris kept beating Susie and being abusive because she spend too much time at the church?
and then Kris threw an empty beer at Susie

Balls

>>527891970
But I also want to beat the shit out of dess

>>527892052
It reminded me of Splatoon or Katamari Damacy

>ralsei is actually toriels self-insert

All the rest of you theoryfags are sleeping on the real truth, the way and the spice. I've been snorting this shit for years, I see everything through a SOUL red filter, I am in tune with the same forces of cosmic autism that speak through tobert himself

He wasn't just bullshitting when he said there would only be one ending to Deltarune; the "normal"/wholesomechungus route will result in a time loop that brings you back to Chapter 1. Susie doesnt want the adventure to end, its better if things just go on forever right? As intruder to the prophecy (she's obviously not the girl, we have several allusions to this fact) she positions herself to throw it off the rails and ensure that she can keep having fun with Kris and Ralsei and Lancer in this same strange week of Mid-Autumn 20xx

The only way to break free of this hell is to snowgrave. You must force Noelle to grow stronger so that she can appear with you at world's edge and you can see the prophecy to its end in full. She would never go along with this willingly, Susie makes damn sure that she thinks the Darkworld is a dream and you'd sound insane trying to explain it, so your only recourse is to rape and mindbreak her into a submissive pet. That way you can make her strong enough to contend with the Titans

Its all so fucking clear, just OPEN YOUR EYES

>>527891751
Not all monsters are anthros, but a lot are and they're the ones we talk about Kris fucking

Feeling genuine sadness for the loss of the tube TV I grew up watching and playing vidia on was not on my bingo card...

>>527891970
>Susie will be the final boss
like the other anon said, I will not fight Susie
Toby will have to pull a hack and make Susie transform into some mindless thing we have to save

>>527892409
>jujutsu kaisen image
redditor

>>527892256
No but saying you've seen his face before he answers implying he knows who the other Dreemurrs are and is aware he looks similar

In these last two chapters, Ralsei grew on me. Or, to be more precise, I have refrained from forming any firm opinion on him through all these years simply because I did not know enough about him. I always felt that he is keeping something from me, not about the prophecy, not about his true nature or his intentions but about how he sees himself.
Before playing chapters 3 and 4, I replayed the first two chapters to refresh my memory and get a better picture. And "It's nice that Ralsei is Ralsei." and him wondering what being "Ralsei-like even is" segment becomes much more poignant in hindisght. I have had my suspicions but once he tasted the cake for what he said was the first time in chapter 4, it become as plain as day to me: once I step through the threshold of his room, I will find an empty space.
Since the beginning, you are told that your choices don't matter. Once you accept that your choices don't matter simply because you were told so, you are free to do as you please. And your choices not mattering becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ralsei is told the same thing: that the prophecy did not change depsite his best efforts. Even Ralsei tells you that you shouldn't worry too much about Darkners.

I acted as if every choice I made mattered.

Even if there is only one ending, even if the eventual outcome is the end of the world no matter what I did, it would not make a difference to me. It's got nothing to do with what Toby said. If God told me that nothing I did mattered, I would still do my best to get a genuine smile on that fluffy boy's face. If me complimenting Ralsei's face makes him proud, I have already made a world of difference.
What matters to me more than anything is seeing Ralsei be Ralsei, help the goat boy shape his own identity and be his best friend no matter what.

>>527892256
No, he doesn't seem to know or care in any capacity being Toriel being someone they have to rescue.

>>527892052
It's how English sounds like to non-English speakers

>KRIS VS SUSIE DECISIVE BATTLE
surprised there’s not that many sprite animations of these characters

Ralsei?
More like Gaysei

i wonder if toby will make it so if you reset after the ending theres differences in the dialogue similar to how it was in undertale

>>527892256
>same species
My dude, Ralsei is literally Kris' buttpug.

I'm going to bully Papyrus once he shows his stupid and cute boney face in deltarune

The Soul is only THE PLAYER in the weird route

in the standard route, The Soul is Dess’s soul

>>527892948
i hope he doesn’t do that because doing that shit for a much longer game would be annoying

>>527892409
>jjk gojo
im not reading that shit!

>>527892823
THEY FIGHT IN KRIS'S HOUSE!
IN FACT, THEY FIGHT IN KRIS'S ROOM!
IN FACT X2, THEY FIGHT IN KRIS'S BED!
AND BOTH OF THEM ARE NAKED!
AND SWEATING!
AND TORIEL IS WATCHING!

>>527892948
there's fuckery going on already

Why does this whole scene just feel so... sexual?

>>527893173
maybe it's because you're a virgin

>>527892256
I think ralsei mentions something if you play Heartbreak on the piano

>>527893128
>TORIEL IS WATCHING
So like that one gay Asriel comic except she's guaranteed proof at least one son isn't a penis quaffer.

>>527892256
No, but there's an interaction about Ralsei's face:
"Seen it before":
>* Huh? I'm not quite sure what you...
>* W-well, I...
>* Kris, I'm sorry, but...
>* This is... my face.
>* And if there's one thing I like about myself, it's this...
>* So, even if you think it's boring, or too similar to...
>* D-don't laugh, Kris. If you think it's the same as...
>* OK, I get it! You don't think it's too similar! But...
>* Kris!
"Unique":
>* H-huh? thanks! I...
>* (Wait, is that a compliment...?)
>* I know, um... I look like a monster, but...
>* At the end of the day, I'm not... a Lightner.
>* I'm just a shadow. Like everything else.
>* So it's up to you... How you think of me.

>>527892409
>All the rest of you theoryfags are sleeping on the real truth, the way and the spice. I've been snorting this shit for years, I see everything through a SOUL red filter, I am in tune with the same forces of cosmic autism that speak through tobert himself
I'm ready.

>the "normal"/wholesomechungus route will result in a time loop that brings you back to Chapter 1
Agreed.
>As intruder to the prophecy (she's obviously not the girl, we have several allusions to this fact)
Interesting, not the first I've heard this but not offensive ok
>That way you can make her strong enough to contend with the Titans
oh ok then change that JJK pic to a Madoka pic then cuz Susie becomes something STRONGER than a Titan and rebuilds the worl din her image, so we need a Genocide level power to undo this cycle Angel Susie is imposing on us

>>527893258
kris could be afab

>>527893238
Come the fuck on.

>Isn't a Christian
>Makes the best (and the most accurate) depiction of a church service

How does he do it?

>>527893128
>>527893258
>Toriel is sitting
>With a cup of wine in one hand
>drinks a little
>smiles
>"that's it Kris, show her how good you are, make her yours."
>"Remember everything I taught you, we have been training for this."
>drinks again

>>527893392
Wasn't Toby raised christian

>>527893392
by being taken to church as a child?

>>527893039
>>>/v/713000000

>>527893392
Do you have autism? Do you think everyone that went to church as a kid were religious?

>>527887574
He doesn't look exactly like him because it's Kris if he were a real Dreemurr. He looks like Asriel's little brother, because that's what he's supposed to be

>>527893392
>enter a church once
>immediately have 100% of the church experience
impossible to say

>>527893392
He could've attended
I think many did at least once in their life for one reason or another

>>527893453
that was the FNAF guy

>>527893356
Just say they have a pussy or a cock anon don't make me google the funny letters

>>527893492
I hate this prophecy in particular.

>>527893392
Susie SWIMMING in that [Freedom Sauce]

>>527893548
>because headcanon headcanon headcanon
cool headcanon bro don't care didn't read just kissed you on the lips fluffy fag I might do it again later

>>527893492
My Little Boney will be canon

>>527893392
he was raised episcopalian

>>527893392
>Go into church.
>Attend a service.
>"Ah so it's like that huh."
>Add it to your game as you experienced it.

Wow, doing research for your projects? Unheard of.

Look, I know that Undertale is a complete package where every moment feels more purposeful and it's less disjointed but can I just say
I kinda love that Deltarune is all over the place and that each chapter has a distinct vibe. I love how it does UI manipulation and 4th wall breaks more randomly instead of only during key plot moments. I love how it crams a bunch of ideas together regardless of whether it would mesh well as a bigger picture. I love that it's a lot more esoteric in it's messaging that leaves more room for personal interpretation. I love that the animation quality randomly becomes really really good sometimes you might even feel it's out of place.
When I play Undertale, its a consistently GOOD game overall. Deltarune has some DOGSHIT moments, but plenty more GREAT moments.
It's a passion project with love pouring from all sides, from a creator that wants this to be his everything. I just like this kinda thing more than an objectively well produced game, it feels more alive.

>>527893492
it's papover

>>527893392

>>527882039 (OP)
>decide to do the Titan fight again
>Blackshard on Kris
>attackmaxx with items, fuck defense
>Unleash
>Titan dies on the next turn (not counting the scripted shit after that)

>>527892409
>Weird route Proceeds(tm) to buck break some players into believing its the trve end thanks to the in-between chapter wait time and schizotheorycrafting that they'll forget that they're gonna be punished so badly at the end their ass will be black and blue like lancer
sasuga tricky tony

>>527893906
It's a valid preference. I had a really low opinion of DR when I played the first chapter, but now that I'm caught up I definitely think it's up there with Undertale. The only problem is it still needs to stick the landing, and it might not, whereas Undertale was so impressive because it definitely did stick its own.

>>527893039
Papyrus Chapter 5, farmer and customer of Asgore's Shop, is a rootin tootin Flowerboy because he has no cows who makes a hard livin

>>527893906
deltarune chapter 1 in particular is kind of a giant mess, but chapters 3 and 4 build an incredible structure on a shaky foundation.
I think the lack of a cohesive creative vision has worked out well for them so far, but it could very easily fall apart (and almost certainly will if toblerone keeps up with his planned release schedule) because of how much the weird and normal routes have already diverged.

Undertale definitely feels like a much more cohesive piece of art with something more coherent to say. Deltarune feels a lot more polished generally. Either preference is fine, and both could be improved by borrowing aspects of the other.
But given how long deltarune has already been in development, I think doing that would mean neither would have ever been released

>>527888697
I will read it. I’m starving for old man y fuck i mean old man from deltarune content the man is not getting the respect he deserves

Boble

>>527893392
How is this accurate? Nobody is rightfully angry or even TALKS about the people who cause problems, like in normal churches. Nobody is calling for the well deserved death of gays and other degens, they even allow them into the church.

Nah, this isn't accurate at all. this is what some libtard thinks a wholesome big chungus heckerino church should be that give free estrogen to parents to transition children. YWNBAW Kill yourself.

>>527888835
Is that the bite of 87’?!

>>527894336
Are you ok? Do you wanna talk about it, anon?

>>527894336
>Nobody is calling for the well deserved death of gays and other degens, they even allow them into the church.
when was the last time you went to a church, anon?
These days the only way you can get people into service is by begging anyone that breathes

>>527894336
>>>/pol/

>>527894336
Churches in small towns are not full of psychopaths, they only have 1 or 2 and they're busy pretending to be nice to rape children so they don't try to kill the gays all day.

>>527893637
1 pussy, 2 cocks, no balls

>>527894336

>>527893906
oh yeah Deltarune is way better than Undertale at this point, Undertale relied a LOT on shock value once you get it that's basically the game. Deltarune has way more pieces and content to go over, easily at least 7 different theories across 3 different routes across 3 different timelines, like sorry Toby I loved Undertale but I don't think I'm replaying it anytime soon

>>527893323
>you will need genocide level power to undo this cycle
CORRECT, but Kris remains resistant to you because he cannot see the big picture. The only thing he can see is that you have designs on his childhood friend. Even in a violent playthrough, you never actually kill any enemies, but EXP is still calculated, even though you never earn any

You DO however still get "stronger", and there are unused kill animations for every enemy in the game where you turn them into red dust.

My current gut feeling is that you must loop at least once for Kris to understand what's really at stake here. By making him [STRONGER] you ensure that his memories can escape erasure and he restarts the loop understanding that [YOUR] cruel machinations are ultimately for the best

>>527893392
Hi r*ddit

>>527894081
NTA But:
The weird route won't give us a "good" ending, it is the evil route. But I think anyone who thinks it will give us a BAD end/punish us is wrong too.
Not even the genocide route punished us. Chara is completely on our side as long as we accept what we did and try not to avert consequences. They don't judge us unless we decide not to move on, and even then they're just like "Meh, sure, but you're probably going to get bored."
We as the player are beyond the game's morality, we are above Flowey. Flowey began to SEE everyone as code, as lines of dialogue, to us that is all they really ARE. They are given meaning through our interactions with them, Undertale and Deltarune only matter because WE play them, WE interact with them.
Chara doesn't punish us, they simply ask that we move onto another game or try something new on repeat runs. So I doubt the weird route will either.

>>527894336
I knew someone would react when the anon typed the word "church" in the post

>>527893392
All non-secondaries know that Toby Fox grew up as a practicing Christian which is where all of this and the stuff about Youth Group and so on comes from

>>527893492
WRONG, WE'RE GOING EVEN FURTHER BACK

>>527894134
I watched letsplay of ch1, at the time it really felt more like a cheap tech-demo after Undertale. When I played ch2 myself I no longer thought that

>>527894578
You're spoiled because you're talking about a 10 year old game. Undertale was complete, so people milked it dry very quickly, but there was a lot more to go over than Deltarune, you're just riding the high of the mysteries inherent in a serial format and the various ARGs. It still needs to stick the landing at the end to give it all purpose and it can't promise that the way Undertale could and did

>>527893906
I only opened the general because this is one of my "peek my head in and see what's happening" generals, but I wanted to respond.
I wasn't too hot on Deltarune, but the new chapters helped me figure out why. My issue with Ch. 1 and 2 is that the GREAT moments are usually when it most closely resembles Undertale. The Deltarune moments are pretty weak. Now, Ch. 3 and 4 are when the Deltarune moments outshine the Undertale moments.
I like Toby Fox and I like Undertale and I like that the prospect of new Deltarune chapters has been a part of my life for almost 7 years now, but I wish he'd figure out that exact sweet spot, because I know I'll go back and replay all the previous chapters when the next ones come out and I'd like that payoff to be worth it.

Deltarune will be a really strange game when it fully releases

>>527894806
I hope they update chapter 1 in the future to be less.... ass
because going from chapter 1 to chapter 4 is fucking insane on a technical and gameplay level, and going back to replay Ch1 is like Discount Undertale vs CH4 where the game is finally hitting its stride

>>527885908
I am exclusively a TVfag, never had a thing for Spamton, most others are probably both tho

>>527894081
The only ass getting punished here is Noelle's, and she loves it

>>527894607
>The weird route won't give us a "good" ending, it is the evil route. But I think anyone who thinks it will give us a BAD end/punish us is wrong too.

i think it's set up for a good ending, it might be a little forced but the fact that it's a stepping stone in terms of even being able to abort the weird route makes it an odd case scenario. almost every chapter brings a new form of modulation that needs to be taken into consideration (berdly's coma, giving tenna away or not), that's why im going to make a "bare-minimum" save where i do snowgrave half way through just to get the thorn ring

>She was Used up
>You were Used up
When this finally happens on Weird Route a lot of people will get angry and call it bad writing

>>527894806
I probably would've changed my mind about it playing chapter 2 as well, but I didn't because I was mad about chapter 1 still. I let go of the hatred at some point in the 5 fucking years the next chapter took to come out

>>527894607
>Not even the genocide route punished us
it permanently changed your game to Chara's weird endings even if you did the Pacifist/Neutral endings

Guys, newfag here, what does NTA mean?

https://files.catbox.moe/pty46f.png
Anon wanted it shared "during the day shift"
>big booby noelle mocking you jacking off to her again

>>527895083
the only way to fight the weird route's orchestrator is likely by breaking the route in chapter 4 and then making the twisted sword, it may be the only way to even interact with that force.

Do you think the good ending will be hard to achieve?
I don't think toby would do something too hard

>>527894607
the game generally seems to be about determinism, and ralsei in chapter 4 of the weird route basically says outright "you are breaking the prophecy and are going to end up with something worse"
I don't think toby is ballsy enough to write only bad/imperfect endings so he won't follow through but that's the trendline so far.
The only thing I could see breaking that trend is an aborted snowgrave.

Also undertale is very, very clear that true pacifist is the "good" ending and genocide is the bad ending. It permanently marks your save file, and basically every character constantly says to your face "you're just doing this because it's content and you don't care".
The story of genocide is you grinding content for the boss fights and the game judging you

>>527895108
not that anon

>>527895129
That's peak actually
Thank you courier anon

>>527895083
>Have to kill game-Ralsei and Susie to progress
>you can even attack Susie as game-Kris, with Kris desperately yanking her out of the way
>the only thing people took from this scene was "omg look how cute Kris and Susie are!"
People are going to do all of this horrible shit on the weird route and still get angry that it happens

>>527894923
I would personally even go as far as to say Deltarune is at its strongest when it's at its least Undertale now. The Knight and the prophecy were extremely Homestuck, and the Gerson stuff was really well done and exists outside the genetics of Undertale entirely.

>>527895083
>She was used up
>You were used up
>The World was...
>finally set free

It will be incredibly kino. A sacrifice for the ages, two star crossed lovers giving up infinite time together so everyone's lives can continue past this week

>>527894492
literally, unironically, part of the meta narrative of the game. Susie and Noelle has shit experiences? They can either PROCEED with that or have some heckin wholesome adventures with Kris and pals! Nothing drives that home than Queen and Berdley and everyone laughing at the end of chapter 2. It all comes down to PERSPECTIVE and your ACTIONS. That's all Deltarune, baby

>>527886572
>Chara
For cuddles and vidya of course

>>527895275
No, but it will be more complicated than getting UT's good end

>>527895108
Thanks!

>>527893906
>>527894578
no one seems to remember half of the game's lore is dumped on you through signs you can skip or entirely miss spread around the waterfall area
the whole thing can fall flat if you don't actually invest yourself in talking and looking at everyone and everything
I like the game a lot still even with all its flaws that come with a developer that at the time was still somewhat inexperienced

>>527886572
I pick kris' canon wife

>>527895275
it might require doing the knight fight mantleless

>>527895275
Ch3 Shadow Crystal is already too fucking hard, I almost gave up.

>>527894492
I hate when liberals pretend to know anything about Christianity. They either "muh religion bad" or "uhm sweaty, Jesus would be trans". this country should be reorganized it the image of Texas, and we need way more ethnic white churches. No, I am not all right, Christianity is the last bastion of white identity, and I hate when certain ((people)) turn it into a joke!

>>527894506
because it tries to appeal to certain kinds of people. Bring back ethnic white churches, I guarantee you people will attend.

>>527894507
Pol is a fed board

>>527894535
>Being proudly white = psychopath
YWNBAW

>>527894724
Yes, not all of us want to turn the country int Ameristan

I will play his ribcage like a fucking xylophone

>>527895446
I mean, the answer to that is that if you don't care you probably got a neutral end, and the game judged you for it.
If you were happy with that outcome, then that's the game for you. It's not a bad thing to allow players to choose how much they want to care about the lore

Excuse me for bringing up pronoun shit, but I just can't do it man. I can't call Kris they even if I want to. If it looks like a he I'm gonna call it a he every time. Do people have some sort of trick for calling someone a they or is there some psychological thing that actually makes you perceive someone as a they?

>>527893906
I prefer "consistently good" over "having dogshit moments". Some parts of Deltarune genuinely have me going "What the fuck was he thinking?"

>>527895275
I think it'll be comparatively easy, actually

doing the weird route will be made hard just for the "Why are you doing this" factor, and collecting the shadow crystals on normal route already has some hints that "this isn't going to end well but you can still probably get the good ending" to it

What if Dess isn't the Knight but bond to it the same way Kris is bond to the player?

>>527895518
>implying shadow crystals are the good ending
because handing the resident “unstable object that makes you evil” in high abundance to the suspicious merchant who knows more than he lets on is a good idea

>>527895707
Ah fuck here we go again

>>527895641
>Bring back ethnic white churches
These churches have basically never existed in christian history, outside of the US.
You're not practicing christianity - you're folding the cultural traditions of the american south into your understanding of christianity

>>527895707
I have a friend who's an Enby and i'll occasionally call them a she or her and it pisses them off so I literally just stopped using pronouns and refer to them only by name, it's a big annoying but they insist on the whole enby thing, can't really help it

now that the pulsar cannons have been activated, what's next for deltarune?

>>527895641
If you associate being proudly white with being a psychopathic pedophile I don't know what to tell you anon. Have you tried anything?

>>527895641
how do you even get into an objectively faggy game like undertale or deltarune while being like this? honest question

>>527895641
But anon, white American Christians are the biggest supporters of "those people" and their government on the planet

What if the weird route will help you find the good route? Gerson tell you going the wrong way can be good.

I can't believe this was the last thing Dess heard before she died...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgHqpJkabEI

>>527895373
I would agree. I fucking loved Gerson and his story, by far my favorite part of the new chapters. I think I'll always prefer the DNA of Undertale over Deltarune, and will like it more as game unless Deltarune blows my fucking dick off with a shotgun, but seeing the Deltarune parts be the good parts and justify the new game is great to see.

>>527895918
gay sex scene Vessel x Kris

>>527895958
twistedsword route will be the right one, trust the cat

>>527895707
I don't know what 3rd world shithole you're from, but it's fairly common here to call someone of indeterminate gender "they/them" here. Using it to refer to someone of known gender is extremely confusing though, since "they" isn't normally applicable in the same context as "he"

So I don't personally care. I do find using tranny pronouns extremely discomforting though, so I guess I can't really judge

>>527895707
unironically, just practice
consciously correct yourself enough times and at some point it'll click and you'll start using "they" without thinking

>>527895781
if I can trust this guy, I can trust seam

We needed Ramb in Undertale. Finally someone that wants players some FREEDOM and not this forced route good route bad thing UT had going on.

>>527895275
Just fight Kris's will hard enough to get them to stop working for the Knight and do Susie's Idea

>>527895958
That may be a hint that you can still bail even after the shit with Noelle, which on the one hand makes sense cause you could bail on Genocide in UT until the last second, but on the other is wild after the shit with Noelle in the early part of the chapter

Aborted Snowgrave is shaping up to be it's own route with all the shit you could possibly be pulling on it.

>>527895781
Seam hasn't lead me astray yet

>>527896127
Susie's idea will be hot steamy sex mid-battle and it'll work

>>527896105
Nobody's forcing you to not go for any variety of neutral ending that you like

oh boy im hoping i didn't get vacation for off-topic

>>527895275
Toby 100% isn't ballsy enough to lock a good ending behind difficult progression or esoteric routes.

Imagine if toby is setting a doomer ending where the sacrifice can't be avoided

>>527887985
This unironically works.

>>527883380
The wrong SOUL in the right Vessel, can make ALLLL the difference... in the worlld.

>lmfao kris you love your brother right?
>wanna hear what you do to him in an alternate reality?
>shit's crazy dude fucking turns himself into a flower
>funniest thing I've ever seen

>>527895707
>or is there some psychological thing that actually makes you perceive someone as a they?
lmfaoooooo yeah it's called gaslighting yourself and that's exactly what they want just say he he's already more boy than ralsei

>>527896319
but what ifeth.... he did..... anye wayse?

>>527896218
Have faith in the kot

>>527896275
thankfully not, sex with mizzle

he looks like he licks and sucks icecream made by humanmen

>>527896416
I always pictured seam as a dumpy kinda fat guy

DESS NO DON'T FUCKING DO THI-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

wtf why did 4chan stop showing posts people were banned for on 4chan.org/bans

>>527896414
then the good ending should be aborted snowgrave
I think there's too much chaos to account for for them to sync up already though

>>527891218
>boobs at standing paizuri height
>titankiller minigun
Ralsei-chan best wife

>>527895515
It would make sense if doing the sword route would give you a bad end for the "Mantle/Manhole/Mandible/Whatever" game. Why the fuck it would affect the main Dark World, tho? If someone can't tell the difference between a game and a (sub)real-life, it's their problem.

>>527896275
You won't, jannies like watching the thread with popcorn like it's the most entretaining thing ever

>>527896345
(You) will sacrifice (You)rself and bet banished before the ending.

You will never see it.

That is what Toby meant by only one ending. (You) will end there. (You) will only get one ending.

>>527895275
I do not care if Deltarune good ending is locked behind "Beat Ninja Gaiden 1 (NES)" kind of difficulty, I am going to get it.

>>527895446
>no one seems to remember half of the game's lore is dumped on you through signs
No I think I definitely remember Undertale being a VN with bullet hell elements

>>527883380
Time, Doctor Dreemur?
Is it really that.... time... again?

>>527896530
I wonder if there will be more chances to break it off in later chapters or if Proceeding in chapter 4 locks you in for good

>>527895106
I wouldn't call that a "punishment" for doing the genocide route. It is a punishment for continuing to play the game after doing it. No matter what the game frames a true reset/erase as a bad decision. In the true pacifist ending Flowey calls you out, says you are the last threat left and that you should quit and let Frisk live their life.
Chara basically wonders why you're still playing the game, and I'd say that the "tainting" is the way of the game telling you you accomplished everything, this is the mark of completionism, now go do something else.
>>527895276
In universe, yeah, characters think we are evil because, y'know, in universe we are killing them. While Genocide is the evil route, the game doesn't condemn you as the player for it, it recognizes that you as a player are curious, you are willing to taint the game to find more, but that doesn't make you evil, because they're just code, it is all just a game.
Sans:
>not out of any desire for good or evil...
>but just because you think you can.
Flowey:
> I'm just doing this because I HAVE to know what happens.
>Ha ha ha... What an excuse!
>You of all people must know how liberating it is to act this way.
Chara:
>Now, we have reached the absolute.
>There is nothing left for us here.
>Let us erase this pointless world, and move on to the next.
I agree, Genocide is the bad route and the worse of the two endings, but you as the player aren't truly punished for it or judged besides being told "Yeah, you think you can so you must." The game only punishes you (Chara's 'when were you the one in control') when you choose to then reject what you did by refusing to "complete" (erase) the game.

does anyone have the Video where Kris gets told to "Stop Aura Farming" where he stands in front of fans in different locations?

>janny is having a meltie and rapidly nuking deltarune threads on /v/ again

>>527896678
It very much seems like a point of no return given the phone call afterwards.
I think by that point even if kris tried to save noelle she'd resist him

>>527896236
What about handholding with the free hand while keeping the shield up to protect us both?

>>527896272
Sure like nobody forces me to not slap anyone except consequences follow, just like the consequence of anything neutral is a phone call literally reading out the consequences of your choices at the end. Shout out to Alphys who just states they should have killed us.

>"Until Sunday? A bummer, I was achin' to read the next Monday paper's funnies"
>The doctor hadn't laughed
>He thought it was a pretty good one
>"I must be losin' my edge, right at the end."
>He scratched his beard, walking off from the clinic with no destination in mind
>He hadn't had one in a while. Destinations are for people with appointments.
>Not a fan of sticking to those.
>Well, a whole week to think about it.
>Where had his legs taken him anyway?
>"The graveyard? Rushin' it a bit, are we?"
>*Rustling leaves. The muffled sounds of the town in the distance. Sniffling.
>But the wrong kind of cryin' for a cemetery.
>In the corner, huddled out of sight, was a young purple monster.
>"What's got you down, kiddo? There's less depressin' places to cry it out."
>*The purple girl jumped, then hurriedly stopped herself.
>"I wasn't crying, old man."
>"My apologies, my eye ain't what it used to be. Must be you caught a cold then, sitting on the ground like that, gehehe."
>*The purple girl glares at the old man.
>"It was nothing. Leave me alone old man, don't you know you'll get hurt bothering me?"
>"I don't actually! And why would that be?"
>"...They say I'm dangerous. Get the hint."
>"Oh, if THEY say so? And who am I to doubt THEY, hyar har har!"
>*The girl hugged her knees tighter
>"Everyone says so. I'm bad, and you better stay away."
>"I see, I see. Well that's all well an' good, but you might wanna consider somethin' here"
>"What."
>"I had no way of knowin' that until you told me."
>He turned around. No sense in hitting this nail more for now.
>"You only get one first impression. Make enough good ones, and maybe THEY won't be so sure anymore, hrm?"
>*The old man left.
>Looks like he'd have something to do for the coming week.

>>527887487
How would Dess react if her (ex-)boyfriend's new human girlfriend decided to [*Flirt] at her?

>>527896792
many such cases!

>>527896784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFSpqlsqnwmh2tp

>>527896414
that scene lmfao
>Susie: We WILL destroy you
>Ralsie: Don't make us fight!
>Rouxls
>>527896414

>>527896807
Kris is probably so defeated that you completely un-did all of his actions and also now know that he's working behind your back that he'll probably just completely break and be a puppet on strings

>>527896694
Even that punishment is not really "punishment", it creates a mild obstacle to seeing the happy ending at best

All it really does is create a file hidden in your app data that sets a flag for playthroughs going forward. Which you can delete to get the happy ending you want, if you so desire.

Even in the meta fiction, [YOU] are above even Chara's influence. These characters are your playthings, and no amount of finger wagging from Tobert Fox is going to change that

>>527896694
>the game doesn't condemn you as the player for it
It literally does, both in game (repeatedly, through the characters) and mechanically (by permanently bricking your save file and locking you out of true pacifist)
The game is slightly judgemental of you when you reset a true pacifist, but otherwise there's basically nothing more that the game could have done to condemn you more for doing it lmao. What are you imagining in terms of "the game condeming you for it" here?

the sad thing is, while i think deltarune has been really great so far, i can't imagine the good ending sticking to the landing at all. i think it will really dissappoint a lot of people

however, i can imagine the weird ending being so absurdly insane that i think a lot of people will meme about it for years

>>527896792
Of course he is, we stole the GET instead of his epic shitpost

>>527895108
No Tacos Allowed
(We're a Burrito general)

Is this another one of those threads where people project random shit onto Toby because he thought "huh this sounds like a neat idea"

>>527895108
No Toriel x Asgore

We sell our soul in the genocide ending I wonder if Kris did something similiar and that's the reason they don't have one

>>527897310
That's most of them.

>>527897310
That's been standard operating procedure for years now

>>527897310
ralsei sex scene sounds like a neat idea

>>527896319
...why not? the "most well kept secret" route is going to be known by fucking everyone, and it's a lot easier to digest partaking in weird route compared to UT's genocide run for the pussies who still havent done it.

The true ending wil require sparing everything besides what you can kill with Noelle, abandoning Weird route, creating the Twisted Sword to inflict Trance Down on Kris so (You) can separate from him, progressing the game as the Soul without Kris, Susie or Ralsei, collecting all eggs (any save) to obtain the Vessel and shards and winning the final battle against Hyperdeath Burgerpants NEO.

>>527897123
It's just a meta mini-game, to find and delete that "mark of chara" file. Assert dominance by directly interfering at the lowest level of reality.

>>527897310
Every thread is like that.

>>527897276
I think any game with a 10+ year dev cycle is going to have trouble with expectations, it's the nature of spending too much time on a single project or idea. I really hope Toby got the retarded minigame section out of the way so the rest of the chapters going forward aren't being harranged by him using his autistic retard enigine that he's using in a way so fucked up the actual engine devs have to make a special version just for him

>>527897486
Deltarune if Toby had a single creative atom in his body

I still blame Nintendo for cucking us out of chapter 5

Kris
Susie
Ralsei
Noelle
Berdly
Catti
Jockington

The FUN Gang

>In Chapter 2 if you give Noelle the Noelle Tea she says it's just water with no flavor.
I had completely forgotten about this, but it's reinforced more in my mind that Noelle is actually being written to be shallow and flimsy.

>>527897491
Literally, within the mechanics of the game, there is nothing more that toby could have done to permanently brick your save file anon.
You are coping based on a technical limitation of the game to reach an interpretation which is repeatedly and explicitly rebuked in the game

Or: prove me wrong. Explain specifically what the game would have to do to match my interpretation.

>>527889586
>>527890332
People really sleep on the whole "Kris has been ripping their soul out for at least a while before the game starts" thing. Kris also has the power to SAVE before the game started, which Frisk presumably didn't since they could've just reloaded to before they fell into the underground if they did. If I had to guess, whatever gave Kris the ability to save and the body/soul shenanigans are probably related but there's a LOT going on here we don't know yet.
>>527884379
The sacrifice thing really has me thinking we're going to see some old school small town occult shit happening, prominent members of the town being involved in some kind of cult rituals that then people into darkness creatures or whatever. What if that's how Carol has been keeping crime off the streets?

If Toby doesn't make the ending where you rape and murder for no apparent reason the secret good ending it's because his moral sense is warped and he is an alien from the planet Mars and he will shoot us all with his ray gun

>>527897014
Thanks

>>527896694
>>527897119
>The game doesn't punch you in the face IRL the genocide route, so it's not a punishment
Is there anything you'd consider a punishment or condemnation in this context? all the characters keeping shitting on you for doing it, the only one who doesn't is the same one who ends up destroying the world.

>>527896510
That's it, that's how the RAPE began

>>527897756
All the teas are like that.
Kris has no reaction.
Susie questions if it's tea.
Ralsei asks if it's just water.

>>527897723
Anon I'm thanking Nintendo for forcing Toby to have a fucking release date. Publishers and Producers exist for a reason, sometimes devs and artists are in fact retarded and need to shape up, sit down, and shut up for something to be released
(t. an artist who has had bloat and feature creep fuck with several projects because no one told me to stop)

>>527897756
uh

>>527897756
Susie Tea tastes like nothing to Susie
This is because Susie is also written badly on purpose

>>527897770
If the wet-nose bandits suddenly disappear and we see them in the dark world that'd be interesting

I miss him, I miss him so much

>>527896807
People said that after Chapter 2 with how different the weird route played from the normal route, but we could still bail on Chapter 4 with Berdly in a coma

>>527897276
Toby broke this narrative harder than he breaks music standards at this point if it ends with Kris and Susie eating pancakes with Noelle and Dess during Christmas that's still acceptable because to even get to that normal standard happy ending we're all thinking BUT WTF ABOUT [That thing]

>>527897928
None of them can taste their own tea

pluey

>>527897463
All of that might be true, but I think you are seriously misunderstanding the inevitable reaction when people find out their playthroughs are bricked because 6 years ago they didn't pick up an egg.
Like, you've said a correct fact. There's nothing mechanically which forces toby to make the good ending easy, but the force of inertia is absolutely going to stop him (or force him to roll it back if he does)

>>527897756
Everyone does this when they drink their own tea, the whole thing is a reference to Sideways Stories from Wayside School.

>>527897756
happens if a character drinks their own tea

woah

>>527897580
if tobert jonathan fox makes the inevitable "undertale 3" i hope he makes the game without chapters because that is probably the one thing i hate the most about this otherwise incredible game, because i truly think the ending is gonna put a sour taste in people's mouth

undertale's ending was probably a bit too perfect as well, so i can't imagine it possibly being upped

hawk pluah

>>527897921
>There's nothing in here
So just an empty vessel?

>>527897770
>People really sleep on the whole "Kris has been ripping their soul out for at least a while before the game starts" thing. Kris also has the power to SAVE before the game started, which Frisk presumably didn't since they could've just reloaded to before they fell into the underground if they did. If I had to guess, whatever gave Kris the ability to save and the body/soul shenanigans are probably related but there's a LOT going on here we don't know yet.
It'll be interesting to see if noelle grows her own fully developed soul. Might be some indication of how Kris developed his

>>527897310
5 drums
the ones in the right are in the light
the ones on the left are in the dark
this was the last scene Susie was seen drumming
what does it all mean......

>>527898161
ralsei and noelle never got to properly talk to each other past "roaring bad don't do it" at the end of 2

what would you do if you had a shadow crystal?
>A: insert into urethra
>B: insert into urethra
>C: insert into urethra
>D: the mystery option

>>527898150
>*Equip

>>527897486
>The true ending wil require sparing everything besides what you can kill with Noelle, abandoning Weird route, creating the Twisted Sword to inflict Trance Down on Kris so (You) can separate from him, progressing the game as the Soul without Kris, Susie or Ralsei
You memed it with Burgerpants but this, THIS is the REAL [Juice]

I promise to never harm Ralsei.
>looks at the camera

>>527898231
It means that Susie can drum Very Fastly which is Gooder

Am I really the only one who likes the chapter structure? I think chapter 3 should've been released way earlier without chapter 4, so there wouldn't have been such a long wait. I like having something to look forward to and it's fun theorizing, even if the community gets insane sometimes.

Ok janny, I will post here instead

>"what if this piece of text means [Insert Twelve Paragraphs of Schizobabble]"
>it's actually just toby making a silly reference

DO you think Toby made a positive slice of life episode of going to the church because he was expecting Mat Pat to give Deltarune to pope again?

I accept the possibility of Ralsei's pain and seizure.

>Noelle says her Cat Petterz game has a glitch that gave her 7 headless cats
>ERAM summons 7 Friend heads to attack you
Toby what the fuck is happening

>>527898450
>how dare you talk about video games on the politics board?

>>527898013
i can easily imagine an ending where everyone has christmas dinner together and everyone is happy. noelle sits on susie's lap, sans is boning toriel in front of asgore and he enjoys himself too, dess is back home, berdly sniffing noelle's bathwater with the last scene being asriel coming home from college.

and the only person that's miserable is kris, just looking on how happy everyone is except for them

>>527897967
I mean, sure, but the overworld of chapter 2 basically played the same as the normal route right? There are still plausibly things that kris could do, but we already know he's trying to go around our backs and we've already prevented him. If his next attempt isn't direct and on camera then it will fall pretty flat IMO.
Noelle also knows we exist and can read her thoughts now, which she doesn't in the normal route.

Nothing's decided, but there's a lot of inertia right now that would be difficult or impossible to reverse in a way that feels natural.

>>527898394
All of above

>>527898450
I'm sorry, you're not allowed to discuss video games on the video game board or complain about how the site is run.
Rule #number or something

>>527897613
>Toby's only creative if he does exactly what I say
These guys aren't gonna be happy no matter what Deltarune ends up being are they

>>527898421
I'll do my best..to ruin his pathetic life. until he's begging to die, completely broken after he realizes all of this efforts to fulfil de prophecy were in vain.

>>527892409
There are two The Girls, one that is second in the trio of heroes, and one that is the last, at last. And neither of them are Susie or Noelle.

>>527898450
Your fault for posting video games on the conservative culture war board.

>>527898591
>taking a joke response to a joke post seriously
anon you might be retarded

>>527898551
7 schizos

>>527898551
He's your FRIEND
He's everyone's FRIEND
Follow him already

>>527898678
ralsei is a girl?

>>527897832
Condemnation =/= punishment

UT and DR both conspicuously and inarguably morally condemn the idea of an "evil" playthrough, and scraping games for content, which is an odd tack to take and one i dont feel particularly compelling, but Toby is a weird guy and thats why I like his games

But at the end of the day they are just games, and incapable of actually meting out punishment in any meaningful way. Even in the metafiction, [YOU] as an outside entity are not beholden to their rules. I can spin off another entirely viable universe with these characters where Kris is a 6'5" jojo-beefcake-proportion Gigachad who screams his he/him pronouns at every opportunity and turns hometown into his own personal human repopulation exercise, because I exist on a higher reality than the fiction

>>527898448
it would be fine if there wasn't such a fucking nightmarish disparity in time frames between releases, with ch1 and 2 it was understandable because toby was gearing up with an actual team, the wait for 3 and 4 was actually abysmal

If ch3 had released in 2022 or 2023 people would have been fine, but it's been 3 years since ch 2 released, and about 6 since chapter 1, if the release schedule was less ass, i think more people would be fine with it
The Chapter structure isn't inherently bad, it's just that tobert fork didn't have a producer before

>>527898570
the mystery option is also urethra
>>527898678
both of them are Rouxls

>>527897123
>It literally does, both in game (repeatedly, through the characters) and mechanically (by permanently bricking your save file and locking you out of true pacifist)
My disagreement is, yeah, characters in universe are against it because they're against being killed, of course they are. But the climax of the genocide route is quite literally sans telling you
>no matter what, you'll just keep going.
>not out of any desire for good or evil...
And then
>but now, you've reached the end.
>there is nothing left for you now.
Sans is the climax of the route and he spells out what the game's view of the genocide route is, something the player does out of curiosity. Characters in universe fight you because they don't want to die, but in the end, as Sans says, metawise you aren't evil for doing genocide, you are above the game, you as the player (opposed to Frisk, Chara, or whoever you say we control) aren't beholden to the games' morality.
The only true "wrong" thing to do is not know when to stop playing, in both routes. Flowey is against a true reset, Chara is confused why you'd rebuild the world, Sans tells you you've reached the end.
>What are you imagining in terms of "the game condeming you for it" here?
Idk lol.
But what I'm saying is basically: Toby doesn't think you are evil for doing genocide, in universes characters do resist you and hate you for it (it'd be bad writing if they didn't lmao), but you as the player are so disconnected from the actual world of the game, that every meta character recognizes that you aren't "evil", and as something outside the game you can't really be judged morally for your actions in a game lmao. In the end, as Chara says, for you, you are just going to move onto the next world (game).

>>527898450
that's your fault anon, you didn't post about loli pauline feet enough

This shit is 5 images so here's the rest:
https://x.com/Honkadoi/status/1935334059342721481
https://nitter.net/Honkadoi/status/1935334059342721481

How bad were the threads on the launch day with the whole weird route shenanigans?

if genocide and weird is bad and evil why does it feel so good?

>>527898827
>The Chapter structure isn't inherently bad
it is

>>527888697
plenty of people read non-porn greentexts. i should know, i wrote em!

i am putting this under a spoiler because it is namefag stuff and thus doesn't need the threads full attention.
where did doomerralseiposterfren go? he mysteriously stopped posting just when the new chapters were coming out. he has been gone for weeks now. what's up with that?

>>527883380
They're waiting for you Kris, in the Soul Chamberrr

>>527898450
Sorry anon, but the desires of the cp spamming subhumans come before actually discussing video games for the /v/ janitors

>>527898928
I remember seeing this and going aww out loud at the last panel, ch 3 and 4 releasing has unleashed a massive wave of cute (while at the same time heart wrenching) art

>>527896894
damn boy you birth with those hips?

>>527898954
If the releases weren't eons apart, the chapter structure generates buzz about the game every time one drops.
From a marketing perspective it's perfect, but from a "Guy who wants to play the game" perspective it can lead to waiting a fucking decade to play the whole thing

>>527898942
"Just because something's weird doesn't mean it's bad"
-Toby Fox

>>527893492
https://youtu.be/L8XbI9aJOXk?si=LT7gDpB-s3Jse_Fz

Deltarune was a game designed from the ground up to be released as a complete package
The motivation for doing Weird Route and the reason we can even do it is probably revealed at the end of the Normal Route but because we haven't seen it it's just extra content that we're doing completely blindly instead of with purpose

>>527898960
>>527894328
>>527890947
well it's here >>527896873

I have a thing in mind but it might take a while to get to the point

>>527899214
Chapter 1 exists so you're wrong

>>527898450
YOU'VE BEEN HIT BY
YOU'VE BEEN STRUCK BY

>>527898928
lol they gonna DIE

>>527886751

>>527898752
I think you went far too deep into a rabbit hole based on the original post's word choice when he clearly just meant it would be a bad ending

>>527898930
Imagine every other post was the word "RAPE" in all caps

>>527898942
I'm not usually one for evil routes in games, but Toby was really cooking with gas on this one.

I'm not sure i could even point at any one thing, or even a set of things, that makes it compelling, and yet it is

All i know for sure is, I'm gonna rape that doe into my mindbroken mage wife

Is Dess the final boss of Deltarune?

>>527899274
Chapter 1 was a proof of concept demo

>>527898930
It was /v/irgins spamming rape and complaining about chapter 3 being bad.

>>527899368
Yeah, that would genuinely suck

So Rudy's definitely dying no matter the route right?

>>527899415
If so I'd be happy to end them.

>>527895707
I just kept doing it for a while and it grew on me. It can be trained like anything else.
My mind may have developed an extra category that includes underrune humans, I dunno. I got it sorted out for Frisk and Chara before Deltarune came out and it went naturally for Kris.
It may help that I'm really anal about what is and isn't strictly canon.

>>527898930
On day 0 I think it was fine but it got a lot of traction when Toby's team showed themselves as coward.
>the .webm stronger than Toby Fox

>>527898930
Half of every post was about rape. Not the worst but certainly not the best either
>>527899041
I dunno, he never cared that much about Deltarune so I guess he's not too concerned with catching up the ol' /utg/. Maybe he'll come back

>>527898928
you forgot the #m that goes at the end of nitter links because fuck you thats why

Fave's a black guy and their name is Call of Duty.

>>527899552
>I'm really anal
gay

>>527898892
Anon the game is saying you kill people out of curiosity AND THAT'S BAD
Sans resigns because he can't physically stop you, but he slams you in the face with the fact that the only reason you're fighting him at all is because he thinks your choices are bad enough that he HAS to intervene and the only way he sees out of it is putting up a wall in front of you so high that you just give up
This isn't some kind of hidden, esoteric lore - he says all of this verbatim. When you lose he says "don't say I didn't warn you about what comes next". It's not subtle at all

And you can't even say what would prove you wrong lmao. Dude just come down from the ledge. I don't think toby literally thinks you're a bad person for doing genocide, but the route itself is purpose built to make you feel like a bad person and to fit into the game's overall narrative.
Flowey is meant to be a mirror of the player, and how boredom, repetition and content dehumanise the characters and take the weight out of your choices when interacting with them. The pacifist route is you rejecting him, and proving to him that it's worth caring about others. The genocide route is accepting his advice uncritically, and the game very explicitly judges you for that by permanently staining your save file for making the choice and showing you chara (who is intended to represent your choices).
You can go around that and use external tools to modify your save, but at that point you aren't playing a game - you're just reading the game's files.

That's what undertale represents - it asks you if as a player you care about your choices, or just see them as a gateway to content (pushing you heavily towards the former). Pacifist is one extreme of that, genocide is the other.

>>527899508
Almost guaranteed unless Toby decides to pull a genuine twist and kill someone else

Deltarune would be improved if you had the choice to kill or let enemies flee/show mercy but I understand that would be too many variables for a game this big.

>>527896873
based old man

It's entirely possible that the prophecy has already happened before, btw.
Maybe Asriel, Dess and Ralsei already experienced it and that's how dess disappeared.
We already know from noelle that monsters in this world can seemingly also have souls, so it's entirely possible that asriel also has a soul in Deltarune (which might be why he hasn't been present in the story so far).

But then again, just because there's nothing prohibiting it, that doesn't mean it's happened

How well/badly has this image aged. I'm not a theoryfag so I wouldn't know

>>527899820
The recruit mechanic

>broooooo we need to make a dark world to ask this dead old man what the church combination is
Is Susie retarded? Why would Gerson know the church door lock code?

>>527899679
Why would he say that

>>527899508
Rudy will live on forever frozen in ice in snowgrave

>>527899632
>he never cared that much about Deltarune so I guess he's not too concerned with catching up
this is what i am worried about, that he was so disinterested that he bailed out because he didn't wanna bother playing chapters 3+4

>>527899908
She just wants to see gerson again and is looking for any excuse to do it.
it's retarded that any character would know the combination to the number lock anyway (besides maybe the lock itself)

>>527899895
They forgot the Papyrus knight theory

>>527886609
I've also noticed a lack of new characters having dialogue portraits in these new chapters; just Carol

Though I guess going over the characters you'd expect to get dialog portraits:
>Tenna's extra expressive overworld sprite is basically an honorary dialog portrait
>Gerson not getting a portrait hides the twist that he's a dustner (given that lightners have pure white portraits while darkners have fully colored ones)
>Lanino and Elnina are just barely important enough that it's only slightly weird that they didn't get portraits

>>527900061
I read that as her wanting to ask about the Shelter lock code after the 3rd sanctuary, but yeah, after the 1st it was definitely cope on her part
She seems like she has major issues with letting things go

>>527899508
honestly surprised the 'dead monsters live on in the dark world' bit wasn't revealed with him first, but maybe they'll touch on that with him in the next chapter

>>527896319
You have a very strange idea of who Toby Fox is. Guy made Undertale approachable, sure, but he's always been an esoteric romhacker at heart.

>>527899165
As you mention, its good for the marketing team but terrible for every player that wants to actually look and analyze a complete game and not repeat:
>Maybe this'll be answered in the next chapter
What about ...
>Maybe this'll be answered in the next chapter
Have you considered it could be...
>Maybe this'll be answered in the next chapter
I don't hate autistic theorizing and think it can be fun except for when the answer's "Wait for it to be done" because true theorizing can only begin then once we're out of the beta phase and not waiting for the schizo napkin notes to finally be implemented.

>>527898394
Up the bum it goes!

>>527888585
original transwalkers...

Fish I wish

>open Dark World
>infinite access to sexy monsters
Why did the roaring not happen yet? That's a pretty big plot hole, Toby.

>>527899908
>Is Susie retarded?
Yes
It took her until Ralsei slowly explained Dark Worlds to her in chapter 3 after being friends with him for 7 years since chapter 1 to figure out what a Darkner is

>>527900214
I wish we could get some new content to do stuff while waiting for new chapters, but maybe that's too much to ask

>>527900186
I'll believe that he's that ballsy when I see it
So far, deltarune has been extremely safe and hasn't asked any emotionally difficult choices of the player

>>527899302
i like how some artist have kris show one eye in the light world and the other in the dark world
it's a fun quirk

>>527895707
I'll be charitable to all sides here and assume you're all arguing in good faith
It's a bit silly how people can see way Ralsei and Susie's behavior and appearances defy gender norms but still use the pronouns other characters has been referring to them by, but don't apply the same rules to Kris.
I think part of the problem is that they/them doesn't roll off the tongue very well and he/him is also somewhat of a default pronoun. They/them is also commonly used for people who's gender you don't know yet, making Kris a lot more ambiguous. Like are they nonbinary? Hiding their gender? Biologically genderless? Is it just Toby's quirky writing style to make only the protagonist a they/them?
If Kris was like, a xer/xim people would be thinking "ok this is just xis gender identity or whatever" because while it's a cringe neopronoun, it strictly defines exactly what Kris is and leaves no room for interpretation.
I think bringing up real world politics to argue for/against Kris's gender is retarded because this is a work of fiction where furries and magic exists. We can just have a they/them who exists in this world without explanation.
Additionally, I don't think most people even on 4chan are deliberately transphobic so much as we don't give a shit and don't to be preached to. People are fine with calling Mad Mew Mew a girl even though she was initially assumed to be a guy just because it's an easy thing to adjust to. It's just more difficult to perceive a character as a definitive they/them because you don't see it often and it's not exactly a "third gender" but an umbrella for a lot of different things.
But at the end of the day, it's fiction and you're not hurting real people by doing anything with them. It's only shitty when people argue in bad faith for the purposes of spreading a culture war agenda. If your brain defaults to he/him for Kris, it's fine. If you deliberately use he/him to spread a /pol/ ideology, go the fuck outside.

I love her nose, color scheme, clothes, hair and eyes.

>>527899415
The battle theme incorporating Lost Girl is going to be hype as fuck

>>527900281
Most people don't know about dark worlds at all
which I think that's kinda the point
if everyone could escape to a fantasy where everything was exciting, wouldn't they? What point would there even be in existing in a light world where bad things can happen?

>>527897921
>Ralsei's reaction to Noelle Tea
>sudden realization strikes
>he shouldn't have an opinion of her but does because his time as Kris' Horn headband was around Noelle as well
>his response is based on who Noelle was to Kris from that time
>it might actually hint at how Kris feels about her

>>527895707
Some people learn entire new languages. If you can't work around some shit you learned as a literal toddler now that you have a full grown brain I don't know what to tell you

>>527889875
The Knight has their original Soul which is how (s)he is able to open Dark Fountains. Kris was forced to accept us as a substitute to survive.

>>527900281
Damn I've been out of the loop, how did I miss the two fatasses on the right?

>>527900426
I, personally, just want to make her pregnant

>>527900651
evil creature......

>>527900431
>open a closet or the doors to your local church
>dark world
either a phenomena exclusive to the town and heavily tied to the bunker or suspension of disbelief

Gerson talking about how stories can be rewrote many times is literally deltarune being rewrote many times since 2011.....

>>527898217
Anon, Noelle already have a SOUL. A monster soul, that is.

Welcome home /v/ friends!
This is where you'll be staying for the next year.

>>527900890

>>527899041
Killed himself thank god

89 days until 10th anniversary

>>527898485
>Proceed
>Proceed
>Proceed
>Proceed

>>527900391
>It's a bit silly how people can see way Ralsei and Susie's behavior and appearances defy gender norms but still use the pronouns other characters has been referring to them by, but don't apply the same rules to Kris.
why?
if I wore a dress would that make me a woman?

I think people operate under the interpretation that the pixel representation of fictional characters conforms to their mental image of what a woman or a man is. That might not have a precise definition or precise boundaries, but within the context of the story people treat it as being unambiguous and directly mirroring usage irl.
Neutral pronouns don't really operate like that IRL, outside of fringe communities specifically focused on gender and gender expression. Most people will never use neutral pronouns unprompted unless they are genuinely unsure of someone's gender (by their internal criteria).

>>527899895
Very well. Jaru won.

>>527900857
You want to cite your source there champ?

>>527900978
There won't be anything majorly notable. We already have the concert from a few years ago, and it's as full steam ahead as Toby can bring himself to be on Chapter 5. At absolute most, it'll be more alarm clock dialogue, assuming that we haven't seen literally all of it.

>>527901280
>We are also working on some other exciting things that we can't talk about now.
Believe in the Exciting Things.

>>527900951
Missed the part where he shatters his phone's camera and damaged his earphones with soap

>>527901459
A pop-up shop only in Japan is not exciting, sorry to be the one to have to tell you this.

>>527898752
The fact that you've grown this web of justifications as a defense mechanism is proof the game wounded you. That's the punishment. Words aren't incapable of doing harm.

>>527900281
>open Dark World
>be directly confronted by all the traumas you were bottling up/moveing on from
I don't think cute darkner pussy is worth the white damage.

>>527899895
Jaru was the only one who got anything right about the new chapters, so.

>>527901618
just have less trauma?

>>527886609
for real, would've been perfect
one of those things that i genuinely would like toby to back-add in a later update but i know he won't

>>527901618
It's not Silent Hill, you can just have a wacky adventure with your shortstack belongings

I believe in Noelle

>>527901508
that's just forever gonna be tied to pizzapants forever now huh

>>527901805
if you busted inside something in the dark world would it just be inexplicably injected with semen in a random spot on it
if so would that mean you know where that item's pussy is in the light world

>>527901618
I had my fair share of trauma but I'd still risk it all for some darkner pussy.

>>527901962
What would happen if you got a Darkner pregnant?

>>527901618
My fleshlight turned darkener trauma dumping would be very life-changing.

I Believe In Berdly
Trust The Plan

>>527901805
Perfection

>>527898217
>It'll be interesting to see if noelle grows her own fully developed soul. Might be some indication of how Kris developed his
Living beings are born with souls anon, the question is: why Kris can rip theirs out and walk around without it for a bit and why the player/soul is so separate from Kris? Contrast in related stories should form insight but it's still really hard to this rn because we don't have all the information. Kris has:
>impulses to hurt people that they don't like
>a formerly(?) mischievous personality that (likes pranking people, using inappropriate language)
>the ability to SAVE and remove their soul and have been doing so since before the player gets involved
>some level of awareness that they're being watched and from where (coughs for us during the quizzes and Knight fight and looks over their shoulder at us during SWORD)
And that's not even getting into the Weird route, but it feels like this is all significant. As for Noelle? Idk about a "soul growing inside her" but the idea that we're setting her up for an on-screen monster fusion seems likely when Toby himself has said parts of Deltarune will be about fulfilling things we didn't get in Undertale

>>527887734
Nice! Fuckin' saved.

>>527902353
>Living beings are born with souls anon
Post your source on this right fucking now

>all v threads are nuked now
i guess i will begrudgingly posting about how i want to scoop up tenna as my little meow meow here periodically

>The 2nd voice in the Intro
>W.D. Gaster
>The Vessel
>The Shadow Crystals
>The Eggs
>The Knight's true identity
>Dess's status
>Undyne's status
>What did Asgore do to get kicked off the police force/why is Toriel so mad at him
>Asgore's Black Shard
>FRIEND
>The Bunker
>The road blocked by police tape
>The song coming from the sea
>Constant imagery of oceans, waves, and tides
>The true/final prophecy
>The red dot in Weird!Noelle
>Carol's fixation on [HeartShapedObjects]
>Kris without the SOUL
>The Titans
>The Angel
>Ralsei's Light World object
>Goners
>Sword Route & Kris's extra damage on Tenna
>Slain/Purified counter
>Swoon
>Kris getting knighted
>Kris and Ralsei hiding things from Susie
>"Enjoying the Youthful Days"
>Kris in Art Therapy
>8-Bit Kris still roaming around
>Blank textbox & rain stopping on Weird Route
>Pink and Yellow imagery
>Extra Kris in the Holiday mansion
>Flowey motif in bitroots and roots songs
>ERAM
>Kris's implied intrusive thoughts
>Onionsan disappearance
>"The place where it rained"
>What's inside an acorn
>ICE-E in the woods
>Everyman subliminal messages
>Asriel's drawer/TVdinner message changes on different save files
>Cry for help in the code
>Hidden Toriel variable in mantle game
>Backstage game foreshadowing
>MANCOUNTRY
>"Copies are monochrome"
>Susie's unremovable equipment
>Susie's equipment increases stats as an enemy
>Freedom motif
>Susie's chair
>Voice on the phone
>Eggs in the Light World
>Cries for help in the code
>"Humble servant"
>Susie bleeds
>"The pipes"
>"NIGHTMARE" ICE-E
>King knows if you left Darkners behind
>"You were used up"
>Pure Crystal/Twisted Sword
>Eyes imagery
>Kris's save file
>Lightners can be remanifested in the Dark World
>Library Bird keeps blocking areas
>Dark Bead ("Broken off, but still locked.")
>"Enforces fate with the blade"/"Faces fate with the blade"
>Elemental pairings
>Washing hands
>Toby's fever dream in general

>Shipfags think all of this combined is less interesting than "who does Kris fuck"

>>527899415
>>527899895
my headcanon that the Knight is a Titan Spawn all grown up and farming a SOUL(s) for power that is unapologetic about the circumstances. No talking, is cocky as hell, laughs at Susie for even IMPLYING it gives a damn. Ralsei knows exactly what it is, because he understand it's feelings, he feels imprisoned, and the Knight is fighting free.

>>527886751

>>527902101
Your fleshlight is turned into a location. Explore!

>>527902472
Kris is unironically the least interesting part of the game to me
a necessity, but not welcomed

>>527902416
If you go to /v/ at all you must hate yourself.

>>527902515
raisei

bro I can play along with Snowgrave but I am NOT liking being a dick to Susie

>>527902472
i don't think anybody thinks there's anything to say in regards to fucking ICE-E. remove that from your list or there will be a reckoning

>>527902472
~it was all a dream~

>>527902101
>>527902524
what if all my fleshlights and dildoes turn into deltarune darkners? what ACTs would be available to me if i wanted to spare them? what would their interactions be if recruited into castle town?

>Church dark world had nothing to do with Religion
>Escapism meaning less and less in each dark world.
So glad these fucking theories are dying so quickly.
So glad Kris knight died.

>>527902398
>* (It's a book about Monster Funerals. Read it?)
>* ... When monsters die, their dust will be spread over what they loved.
>* An object that symbolizes their existence. That object will be buried...
>* And in such a way, their soul be able to rest, within that object, and the earth.
>* Of course, everyone knows that. That's why this is the introduction...

>>527902661
Susie deserves it especially since her desire for escapism will likely make her the true final boss and villain

>>527902416
you're among like minds here. Stay

1/4

*tenna dances while I soak in all this [FREEDOM SAUCE]*

>>527902661
You don't have to be?

>>527902472
>Susie's unremovable equipment
>Susie's equipment increases stats as an enemy
>"Enforces fate with the blade"/"Faces fate with the blade"
I guarantee you that a serious rematch with Susie is inevitable regardless of what route we pick

>>527902647
japanese can't spell, it is the cost of drawing sexo

>>527902617
lets be real: board choice doesnt matter.we're both still schizoid adjacent for posting here over anywhere else with a profile required

>>527896470
its me or he looks muscular